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00:01:22 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-1049-g462a813 (34)
00:01:24 <ProzacElf> beware the flavor cost!
00:03:46 <kramin> as long as it makes Vp OP so I can get greatplayer I'm happy
00:03:54 <kramin> you can nerf again later
00:04:33 <gammafunk> no one cares about vampires.
00:04:53 <gammafunk> not even people who read Anne Rice
00:05:00 <gammafunk> They're at best indifferent to vampires
00:06:30 <CanOfWorms> #vamplivesmatter
00:06:32 <CanOfWorms> wait no
00:06:36 <CanOfWorms> #vampunlivesmatter
00:07:02 <gammafunk> VampNation
00:08:33 <Shard1697> by the way I was just messing around in wizmode, and it seems like the command for gaining a bunch of skill points doesn't work?
00:08:56 <Shard1697> &s
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00:25:26 <minmay> Shard1697: works for me
00:25:35 <minmay> Shard1697: you do need to kill a monster or reload the save to actually spend the points
00:25:57 <Shard1697> oh of course, I forgot about that
00:26:04 <Shard1697> been a while since I actually used wizmode
00:29:27 <Shard1697> "I think the most dangerous thing in Pan is getting red poison"
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00:37:53 <PleasingFungus> the most dangerous thing in pan is dying
00:38:32 <Lightli> I would argue panscumming as more dangerous
00:38:36 <Lightli> at least dying means your game ends
00:38:48 <kramin> the most dangerous thing is getting out of the pan and into the fire
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00:41:42 <gammafunk> most dangerous things in pan are holy swine
00:41:45 <gammafunk> nothing else comes close
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01:15:52 <PleasingFungus> cool, &d crashes on eldritch tentacles
01:18:52 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1049-g462a813 (34)
01:22:41 <ProzacElf> =D
01:23:26 <ProzacElf> kramin: if i can win a vpsk, surely you can maage a vpbe or vpen
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01:55:56 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1049-g462a813
01:58:21 <Cheibriados> New branch created: seenspells (4 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/seenspells
01:58:21 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[seenspells] * 0.19-a0-1049-g6e5f108: Remove a reference to unholiness (comment) 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6e5f10835e6b
01:58:21 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[seenspells] * 0.19-a0-1050-ged4a668: Track seen spells for individual mons 10(63 minutes ago, 4 files, 28+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ed4a6685163a
01:58:21 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[seenspells] * 0.19-a0-1051-g14ea282: Display seen spells for panlords 10(42 minutes ago, 3 files, 24+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/14ea2825481a
01:58:21 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[seenspells] * 0.19-a0-1052-g54fdd91: Filter out conflicting books from xv 10(79 seconds ago, 1 file, 41+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/54fdd91c7473
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02:03:44 <gammafunk> unseenspellhorror
02:05:04 <PleasingFungus> 8)
02:05:12 <PleasingFungus> i'm pretty sure the logic for tracking seen spells is wrong
02:05:19 <PleasingFungus> but it might not be very wrong
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02:06:15 <ontoclasm> 12 wrong
02:07:03 <ProzacElf> choko wrong!
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02:41:44 <travis-ci> The build passed. (seenspells - 54fdd91 #6244 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/148628744
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03:34:39 <Cheibriados> 03amalloy02 07* 0.19-a0-1050-g8e71ee3: Describe Asterion's Greater Servant of Makhleb 10(50 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8e71ee39b280
03:35:18 <amalloy> !learn del amalloy_todo[13
03:35:19 <Sequell> Deleted amalloy todo[13/14]: add description to asterion's servant of maklheb spell
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03:39:25 <ProzacElf> look at you getting things done!
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03:46:32 <gammafunk> .gfdevkills
03:46:35 <Sequell> 5 games for * (((map=wizlab_lehudib || kmap~~gammafunk || ikiller=asterion || ikiller=octopode_crusher)) @devteamnp): dpeg (a vault guard), Lasty (Asterion), wheals (Asterion), SGrunt (a lindwurm (gammafunk_lair_enchanted_lake)), PleasingFungus (a spriggan air mage (gammafunk_depths_water_palace))
03:47:17 <gammafunk> 1learn amalloy_todo die to a gammafunk map or asterion
03:48:05 <ProzacElf> how long has asterion had greater servant?
03:48:13 <gammafunk> !kw newasterion
03:48:13 <Sequell> Keyword: newasterion => vlong>=0.19-a0-526-gbe2e51c
03:48:17 <ProzacElf> i know he's had destruction from the beginning or very near it
03:48:18 <gammafunk> since that
03:48:27 <ProzacElf> but he surprised me with the servant recently
03:48:49 <ProzacElf> !lg . ikiller=asterion
03:48:50 <Sequell> No games for ProzacElf (ikiller=asterion).
03:48:58 <ProzacElf> apparently not enough to kill me though
03:49:02 <gammafunk> !killratio asterion * newasterion
03:49:12 <gammafunk> !killratio asterion * !newasterion recentish
03:49:20 <Sequell> asterion wins 2.371% of battles against * (newasterion).
03:49:23 <Sequell> asterion wins 1.144% of battles against * (!newasterion recentish).
03:49:26 <ProzacElf> haha
03:49:33 <gammafunk> :evilgrin:
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05:17:00 <kramin> oh, there is a thing which I kind of minded a bit: you cant forget spells by destroying books anymore
05:17:14 <kramin> I guess its a wierd mechanic
05:17:18 <PElf> lol
05:17:19 <kramin> useful though
05:17:33 <kramin> I had a game recently with no amnesia scrolls
05:17:49 <kramin> and memorised a spell thinking I can always use the book to forget it
05:19:19 <kramin> mostly its just annoying if you get unlucky and dont find amnesia, whereas before you at least had a guarenteed way of getting rid of one of your low level spells
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18:02:57 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-a0-1050-g8e71ee3 (34)
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18:15:59 <Cheibriados> 03MarvinPA02 {GitHub} 07* 0.19-a0-1051-gdb7e7f8: Remove an obsolete zombie vault (Shard1967) 10(9 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 28-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/db7e7f82b751
18:16:30 <MarvinPA> oops sory, i got your numbers the wrong way around
18:16:49 <MarvinPA> sorry*
18:16:58 <MarvinPA> typing is hard!
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18:19:50 <gammafunk> there's also grunt's orc ending
18:20:12 <gammafunk> which featured a big set of corpses + orc sorcerors
18:20:34 <gammafunk> *sorcerers
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18:22:10 <MarvinPA> oh, i've cleared that one and never even noticed it had corpses in it
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18:22:49 <MarvinPA> probably still fine as-is with the corpses just for the theme i guess
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19:08:51 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1051-gdb7e7f8 (34)
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19:49:22 <chequers> Makefile:1617: recipe for target 'libunix.o' failed
19:49:23 <chequers> make: *** [libunix.o] Error 1
19:49:41 <chequers> I updated my ubuntu and now crawl builds fail
19:49:49 <chequers> http://dpaste.com/0Q9QERR.txt
19:50:41 <chequers> hm, maybe I just have to make clean
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20:23:30 <biggie> How favorably would a patch that can generate layouts based around tesselating shapes (either periodically or aperiodically)? A few vaults like hangedman_crystal_crosses_colossus in Depths do this already, and it could increase the amount of novel random content.
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20:25:25 <chequers> nope, libunix still fails: http://dpaste.com/03AC6P7.txt
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20:31:13 <chequers> ah. the following packages went missing during upgrade: libsdl2-image-dev libsdl2-mixer-dev libsdl2-dev
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20:37:05 <PleasingFungus> biggie: sounds like it could be interesting! crystal_crosses tends to get a bit repetitive, but idk if that'd be a problem with all tesselating layouts
20:37:09 <PleasingFungus> experiment and see how it turns out!
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20:39:39 <PleasingFungus> biggie: did you get my message?
20:40:42 <biggie> Yes. I'll tinker around with the idea, and hopefully something interesting will come out.
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20:48:47 <Brannock> my hexer ancestor just confused me because I was in between him and the enemy target
20:48:55 <Brannock> this is probably not intended behavior
20:49:02 <PleasingFungus> known bug
20:49:06 <Brannock> glad to hear it
20:49:08 <PleasingFungus> i haven't been able to reproduce it
20:49:14 <PleasingFungus> if you figure out how, let me know!
20:49:27 <PleasingFungus> also any more information about what was going on just now would be helpful
20:49:37 <Brannock> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Brannock/Brannock.txt
20:49:46 <Brannock> I'm guessing you can't reproduce it in a single-wide straight corridor
20:49:59 <PleasingFungus> wow, those are some characters
20:50:43 <PleasingFungus> i'll have a look later and see if i can reproduce it with that setup
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20:52:15 <Brannock> aside from the confusion happening, I'm enjoying hepliaklqana very much. please pass my accolades on to the people who designed Hep
20:52:23 <Brannock> And coded her
20:53:01 <PleasingFungus> you are welcome
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20:56:12 <gammafunk> biggie: I think if you make things too regular/repeating, that tends to make layouts less interesting. It might be interesting if there's good variety in the tesselation, and you can also consider doing tesselation followed by "ruining" steps that e.g. degrade walls
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21:00:34 <biggie> gammafunk: Thanks for the advice! There are some types of tessellation that don't repeat patches like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose_tiling. Ripping out parts of the map and putting vaults there is something else I'm considering.
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21:02:58 <gammafunk> biggie: infiniplex did a kind of tesselation layout for pan that might be worth looking at for some inspiration; it was manually done like crystal_crosses but more random
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21:03:33 <gammafunk> biggie: layout_pan_division.des
21:03:40 <gammafunk> in dat/des/builder
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21:04:11 <gammafunk> probably not directly applicable to what you're doing, but maybe good inspiration if you haven't seen
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21:11:50 <doy> don't we do some kind of domino tiling for some other map generation? abyss maybe?
21:13:11 <chequers> hmm... still can't seem to include curses.h any more
21:13:26 <chequers> any suggestiong for fixing http://dpaste.com/03AC6P7.txt on deb/ubuntu?
21:14:48 <doy> libncursesw5-dev, i think
21:15:22 <doy> (it's complaining about the unicode functions which are only in ncursesw, not ncurses
21:15:22 <doy> )
21:16:07 <gammafunk> yeah, I'd verify you have all of the deb prereqs listed in INSTALL.txt
21:16:16 <gammafunk> build-essential libncursesw5-dev bison flex liblua5.1-0-dev \
21:16:16 <gammafunk> libsqlite3-dev libz-dev pkg-config libsdl2-image-dev libsdl2-mixer-dev    \
21:16:19 <gammafunk> libsdl2-dev libfreetype6-dev libpng-dev ttf-dejavu-core
21:17:33 <geekosaur> doy, it was an experiment and I think it is still off in a branch after a merge attempt went awry?
21:18:20 <gammafunk> I think it god merged and is used in crypt floor tiles?
21:18:20 <geekosaur> hm, maybe it did get committed finally
21:18:39 <gammafunk> but it's the only place it's used; it never really got used properly iirc
21:18:43 <geekosaur> I recall the first commit attempt being hastily reverted after stuff went wrong
21:19:12 <gammafunk> yeah there were merge issues; it's probably just a big lump of code we don't actually need until we can get tile artists to make proper use of it
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21:34:28 <chequers> doy: gammafunk: yeah, those are all installed
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21:37:58 <chequers> the relevant include is at /usr/include/ncursesw/curses.h
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21:38:29 <chequers> which is where it's always been, afaict
21:38:53 <chequers> TRACK_CFLAGS = x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc x86_64-linux-gnu-g++ -O2 -pipe -DUSE_TILE -DUSE_TILE_WEB -Wall -Wformat-security -Wundef -Wno-array-bounds -Wno-format-zer
21:38:56 <chequers> o-length -Wmissing-declarations -Wredundant-decls -Wno-parentheses -Wwrite-strings -Wshadow -pedantic -Wuninitialized -Iutil -I. -isystem /usr/include/lua5.1
21:38:59 <chequers> -Irltiles "-g" -DWIZARD -DASSERTS -DCLUA_BINDINGS -DDGAMELAUNCH -DWEB_DIR_PATH=\"/web/\" -D_GNU_SOURCE -isystem /usr/include/ -isystem /usr/include/ncursesw #
21:39:02 <chequers> EOL
21:39:10 <chequers> so the header should be included... right?
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21:57:56 <geekosaur> unless it's also in /usr/include/curses.h because of the preceding -isystem
21:58:09 <geekosaur> which I think was supposed to have something after the slash
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22:01:33 <Cheibriados> Artefact rings of Ice/Fire still mention de-enhancers 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10588 by CanOfWorms
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22:07:45 <geekosaur> hm. I think that might be lua's fault
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22:11:06 <geekosaur> chequers, what does this command print: pkg-config --cflags lua5.1
22:11:48 <geekosaur> oh, no, I see it in there now. so where did that _GNU_SOURCE and buggy -isystem come from?
22:13:56 <geekosaur> mrr. maybe that is ncurses' fault...
22:14:13 <geekosaur> pkg-config --cflags ncursesw
22:14:27 <geekosaur> chequers, ^ run above command and report result
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23:17:42 <chequers> geekosaur: -D_GNU_SOURCE -I/usr/include/ -I/usr/include/ncursesw
23:20:07 <geekosaur> right, that's your problem
23:21:06 <geekosaur> you'll need to edit out the -I/usr/include/ to keep from getting the non-unicode curses.h, and possibly report upstream that it should not be doing that (libncursesw5-dev package)
23:22:19 <geekosaur> for comparison, the output on trusty is: -I/usr/include/ncursesw
23:22:43 <Shard1697> http://i.imgur.com/2Ux8vBQ.png screenshotted this a bit back but an orc warrior who got paralyzed by xom the turn I moved onto stairs followed me up them
23:23:19 <chequers> geekosaur: nice troubleshooting, thanks
23:23:33 <chequers> now... how would I edit the output of pkg-config?
23:23:33 <geekosaur> I'm also guessing the coding police will want to talk to them about the -D_GNU_SOURCE but that's unlikely to cause you a problem :)
23:24:21 <geekosaur> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkgconfig/ncursesw.pc
23:25:22 <chequers> oh crap! my OS updated to 15.10!
23:25:50 * geekosaur suspected as much...
23:25:51 <chequers> well... it partially updated....
23:26:02 <chequers> oh dear
23:26:53 <chequers> i guess I need to roll forward to 16.04
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23:40:13 <chequers> the current cflags hide warnings that suggest adding parentheses to statements that rely on || && ordering implicitly, like `if (pos < bestpos || pos == 0 && len < bestlen)`
23:40:31 <chequers> would it be worth re-enabling this warning and adding parentheses to all such cases?
23:40:51 <chequers> eg:
23:40:51 <chequers> if (adj && max_radius > 1 || x_chance_in_y(chance, 100))
23:40:52 <chequers> ^
23:40:52 <chequers> (                    )
23:41:59 <geekosaur> iirc that was done because there were far too many of those cases
23:42:23 <geekosaur> it was turned on briefly, people looked at the result and decided to let sleeping dogs lie
23:42:43 <amalloy> i don't like such warnings personally
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23:59:28 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-1051-gdb7e7f8 (34)