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PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 00:40:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:43:38 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:43:39 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:46:56 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:47:19 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:47:52 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:54:22 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:25 ??userdef 01:01:25 userdef[1/1]: https://loom.shalott.org/userdef.html 01:03:34 gammafunk: I hope you appreciate me removing the rape joke from that 01:03:35 -!- deltaromeo has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 01:03:58 I forgot to search it for rape jokes 01:04:20 rape jokes!!!! how offensive omg no fun allowed 01:04:42 but if there was one, then thanks 01:07:35 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 01:09:59 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:13:16 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 01:16:27 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:27:38 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:34:47 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:37:39 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:38:11 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:42:14 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: Reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold, BYE] 01:44:18 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:46:58 -!- Cimanyd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:51:33 -!- squidcat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:57:04 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:59:14 -!- ddfghDCSS has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:06:09 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:08:07 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 02:28:25 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:30:33 -!- Siegurt has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:34:06 Repeated lines of text on ctrl-x for beogh orcs 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10560 by Shard1697 02:35:38 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:39:58 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:40:04 shmup: One suggesting for the glyph page is that the filter is case-insensitive 02:40:17 took me a sec to realize I had to type "Asterion" instead of "asterion" 02:41:45 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:44:49 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 02:45:49 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:46:55 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 02:50:42 -!- ontoclasm1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:52:32 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:59:42 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:36 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 03:06:35 -!- Ayey_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:15:37 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:19:06 -!- eb has quit [] 03:23:28 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-965-g50bf062 (34) 03:32:07 -!- DaneiTHREEPOINTF has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:33:46 minmay: seems excessive 03:33:46 chequers: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 03:35:23 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:35:52 -!- ontoclasm1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:37:36 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 03:39:12 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:43:40 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:43:53 -!- HowDoesItWork has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:50:19 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:55:35 chequers: what if xom's divine lightning awarded xp 03:56:11 03regret-index02 07* 0.19-a0-966-g966ac71: Wide minor vault edits, once more 10(46 seconds ago, 17 files, 269+ 299-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/966ac71c85a4 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:08:52 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:08:54 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-966-g966ac71 (34) 04:09:18 03regret-index02 07* 0.19-a0-967-ga3cd88f: Combine Wiglaf and Donald 10(33 seconds ago, 32 files, 99+ 332-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a3cd88f795e7 04:13:32 -!- Goblin1989 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:17:17 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:31:35 -!- ontoclasm1 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:33:10 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:34:05 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:49:10 -!- slaytoven has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:08:44 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-967-ga3cd88f (34) 05:13:23 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:20:01 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 05:20:02 The build has errored. (master - a3cd88f #6166 : regret-index): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/144096038 05:20:02 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 05:25:40 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:32:13 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:36:32 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:49:40 -!- ontoclasm1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:49:41 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:51:12 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:51:29 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:58:57 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:06:26 03gammafunk02 07* 0.19-a0-968-gd46c65f: Some tweaks to a depths vault 10(17 minutes ago, 1 file, 56+ 52-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d46c65fac399 06:08:31 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:14:07 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:30:50 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:46:59 -!- Elitist has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:48:47 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:49:39 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 06:55:25 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 06:55:26 The build passed. (master - d46c65f #6167 : gammafunk): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/144119236 06:55:26 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 06:58:16 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 06:58:59 -!- grammus has joined ##crawl-dev 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:01:41 -!- grammu has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:07:33 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 07:08:44 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-968-gd46c65f (34) 07:12:18 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:20:25 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:27:49 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:30:49 -!- sooheon has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 07:33:44 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:58:27 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:17:22 -!- doll has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 08:19:32 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 08:22:01 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:28:05 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 08:41:42 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 08:42:21 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:43:03 -!- robotfoundkitten has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:47:04 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:48:40 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 08:53:17 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:57:30 -!- MaBunny has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 08:58:17 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:59:02 good call, gammafunk. that was an oversight. 08:59:15 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:59:38 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 09:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:01:54 -!- MaBunny is now known as OtakuSenpai 09:02:06 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:07:37 rip wiglaf 09:12:03 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 09:25:22 -!- Mekire has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:26:18 gammafunk: I did a sorta unintuitive, pointless thing, but pressing when filtering does a replaceState in the url (does not mess with your web history this way), letting you link a filtered URL, heh. 09:26:51 tile_realtime_anim = false - Why is it off by default? When it is on, and player wants it off, he knows it. When it is off, player doesn't know he turn it on. 09:27:03 he can* 09:27:16 gammafunk: http://dev.host/~shmup/crawl/dcss-glyphs.html#hell 09:28:20 ??tile_realtime_anim 09:28:21 I don't have a page labeled tile_realtime_anim in my learndb. 09:28:26 can we do lookups for rc settings? 09:28:36 what is "tile_realtime_anim"? killer clowns/chaos spawn or? 09:28:53 (instead of going to the manual manually) 09:28:56 if the name corresponds to a function in the source code there is a command for that 09:29:06 !src tile_realtime_anim 09:29:22 im probably doing it wrong 09:39:33 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:39:51 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:40:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:42:33 minmay: is it true what they say about Donald 09:42:45 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 09:49:07 If enabled, tile animations will run in real time and will not be tied to player actions. 09:50:56 !lg * recent s=tiles o=% 09:51:00 1058573 games for * (recent): 92725x false, 965848x true 09:52:08 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:52:16 oh, yeah I'm a fan of that being off by default 09:53:32 the player does not in fact know they want it off if it is on by default, furthermore they don't know how to turn it off w/o seeking (likely) 09:53:38 unless you mean veteran players 09:53:51 !gamesby nikheizen 09:53:52 nikheizen has played 212 games, between 2014-01-01 05:34:21 and 2016-07-10 09:20:46, won 14 (6.6%), high score 17911446, total score 68429172, total turns 3074886, play-time/day 0:21:56, total time 14d+1:15:39. 09:54:01 nikheizen hadn't heard of the option in 212 games 09:54:30 yeah i think the assumption that the player would know they can turn it off is fallacious 09:56:27 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00:28 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:02:01 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:03:46 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping 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-!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:39:04 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:59 sanka (L1 VSNe) (D (Sprint)) 10:51:36 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 10:54:23 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:02:55 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:09:40 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:14:53 -!- Esxyz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:25:33 FR: boots of kicking {slay +3} 11:29:48 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:29:49 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [Client Quit] 11:30:03 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:30:19 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:31:39 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:33:10 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:34:07 -!- slaytoven has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:35:12 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:36:33 -!- jefus- has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:53:03 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01:25 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:02:07 hey greensna1k, interested in a query/command and your web api 12:02:10 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:02:26 encoding it and running into problems with: 12:02:28 !lg !bot week !boring s=killer killer=~ghost killer!=$(join "|" (map (fn (n) (.echo ${n}'s_ghost)) (nick-aliases bot))) title:"bots" 12:02:29 bots: 24x 1321a's ghost, 15x whosad's ghost, 14x Wuag's ghost, 13x AFeyhwan's ghost, 12x Smrgol's ghost, 11x Keinz's ghost, 11x ydungwoo's ghost, 10x kreitia's ghost, 9x SwaRR's ghost, 9x Prakerore's ghost, 8x NeeZ's ghost, 8x DrLGR's ghost, 8x threedog's ghost, 8x WhyteDragon's ghost, 8x CInkIbrahim's ghost, 8x loom's ghost, 8x skycrisise's ghost, 7x Modan's ghost, 7x estick's ghost, 7x mooglekni... 12:03:14 wrong chan, heh. 12:03:27 meant to put in ##crawl-sequell 12:04:39 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:06:26 -!- 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tiles crash (10296) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/746d6c32314c 13:45:38 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:49:09 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:53:51 -!- jehoesefat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:03:06 All down stairs placed on a disconnected part of the map 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10561 by asdu 14:07:43 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:08:46 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-969-g746d6c3 (34) 14:08:50 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:15:45 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:16:27 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 14:22:42 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:24:19 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:26:28 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:33:01 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:34:03 -!- 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quit [Quit: *ollies out*] 15:26:03 -!- Kenran has joined ##crawl-dev 15:26:39 -!- flappity has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:27:29 Hi! Does anyone of you know why I can't use shift+numpadmove or numpad-5 (wait a turn) in the console version of crawl on linux? 15:27:56 At first I thought it was because of SSH, but after compiling an offline client, I have the same behaviour 15:28:09 So I have to use shift+vi keys and . to wait 15:28:34 It also doesn't matter if numlock is on or off, while I think on Windows it did (not sure anymore though) 15:28:47 terminal handles stuff like function keys and numpad wierdly 15:29:06 Ah, so this is 'normal'? 15:29:14 you probably have to remap those keys if you want to use them 15:29:27 I wouldn't even mind, then I'd have to learn vi movement which is better for me because of hand problems anyway :D 15:29:34 yeah it's not a crawl thing specifically either; it's a term thing 15:29:47 vi keys are good! do that! 15:29:49 ah, that might explain why I don't remember having this problem in a windows cmd prompt 15:30:13 windows console* 15:30:32 thanks for clarifying :) 15:32:49 it's an easy fix; if you google "terminal numpad" you can probably find some solutions, or just use vi 15:33:08 -!- slaytoven has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:33:17 nikheizen: Your information was exactly what I needed to finally get into vi movement 15:33:21 I even use vi 15:33:28 but not the diagonal ones :) 15:35:29 -!- fufumann has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:36:56 glad to be of assistance then 15:39:21 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:40:25 Bind soul marks monsters as infested 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10562 by removeelyvilon 15:43:07 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:49:24 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:50:20 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-970-g9a4211b: Fix Bind Soul webtiles icon bug (10562) 10(40 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9a4211b1d9ae 16:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:04:51 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 16:08:44 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-970-g9a4211b (34) 16:10:24 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 16:16:02 -!- Galewind has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:16:55 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:22:22 -!- Elitist has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:26:21 -!- myp has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:29:19 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:32:11 -!- home has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:34:35 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 16:40:09 -!- myp has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:42:49 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:48:10 -!- Mekire has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:53:50 are there any other uniques being considered for merger/removal 16:54:26 We're considering removing Darkli and Lightli 16:54:41 all of you're favourite euniques 16:55:11 <|amethyst> Lightli: Dowan and Fannar, and Duvessa and Urug 16:55:27 gammafunk: Perhaps it is time...for Grayli 16:55:33 or Greyli 16:55:40 DarkGreyli imo 16:55:57 eventually all uniques will merge into a single unique cellular mass 16:56:10 so a buffed Royal Jelly 16:56:30 could give all uniques a merging ability, lets them merge with any other unique 16:56:31 just make them all grinder with scaling HD and hex power 16:56:37 no more 3-unique floors etc 16:56:46 Apocalypse (A) 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:06:59 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:12:48 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:14:15 -!- koboldina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:14:47 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:18:30 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:18:30 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [Client Quit] 17:18:47 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:00 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:24:34 -!- Laraso_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:27:10 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 17:27:33 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:31:51 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:45:44 -!- introsp3ctive has 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elephant (02Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 90-129 | AC/EV: 13/2 | Dam: 4007(trample), 15 | Res: 06magic(100), 12drown | XP: 1242 | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 19:14:49 @??elephant 19:14:49 elephant (03Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 9 | HP: 54-80 | AC/EV: 8/2 | Dam: 2007(trample), 5 | Res: 06magic(60), 12drown | XP: 480 | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 19:15:39 does anyone else think those could be on the lair OOD list? 19:15:44 dire elephants, I mean 19:15:57 I guess specifically past 6 19:16:24 they don't actually generate anywhere other than vaults, it seems 19:16:36 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:16:42 they're in pop_forest, but that doesn't exactly count 19:17:32 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 19:17:58 hrm, does finding a hatch stop autoexplore? 19:18:38 fr finding any feature stops autoexplore 19:18:38 nicolae-: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 19:18:40 ?! 19:18:42 !messages 19:18:42 (1/2) minmay said (1w 19h 4m 9s ago): cow 19:18:45 !messages 19:18:45 (1/1) PleasingFungus said (1w 19h 4m 3s ago): re bug 7424: better to remove the doors to nicolae_vaults_meeting, or add some glass, or? 19:19:00 hrm 19:19:04 * = *:30 ||:20 19:19:13 I'm not super sure what r-i was going for here 19:19:32 I think that's just the same as * = *:30 |:30 19:19:47 which is exactly the same as what it was before: * = *| 19:20:04 unless ||:20 means "place two | on that tile" 19:20:42 -!- slaytoven has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:20:51 !tell pleasingfungus re bug 7424 my current thoughts on that bug are "suck it up, poindexter" but if it needs to be changed i'd go with having some of the inner doors changed to glass 19:20:51 nicolae-: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 19:21:06 you tell em, nicolae- 19:21:21 they think they can push us vault makers around 19:21:32 we'll see how they like never getting a | or even a * again 19:21:46 it'll just be 8 and 9 for loot from now on 19:21:57 "the reward is that you didn't die" 19:22:53 shouldna been standing there 19:25:04 fr "Crawl 0.19: Suck It Up Poindexter" 19:25:18 Crawl 0.19: NERDS! 19:26:09 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:26:46 should be the standard response to player complaints. "rmut got removed!" "Suck It Up Poindexter" 19:27:35 @??elephant 19:27:36 elephant (03Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 9 | HP: 54-80 | AC/EV: 8/2 | Dam: 2007(trample), 5 | Res: 06magic(60), 12drown | XP: 480 | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 19:30:11 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:31:33 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 19:31:57 nicolae-: my concern is that at present it sort of is an autoexplore trap, since an alert player can spot the entrance (i think it's unique in vaults, weirdly) and avoid getting trapped 19:32:00 alternately 19:32:12 you could make the entrance two tiles wide instead of three 19:32:22 how would that fix it 19:32:49 then it wouldn't be an unambiguous trap for a spoiled player? 19:33:33 i see, i see 19:33:37 i guess our hypothetical alert player could be paranoid about all cases where they encounter a two-tile wide corridor with doors at the end in vaults... 19:33:49 i'll tweak it soonish, then 19:34:03 let me double check real quick 19:36:50 i don't think two tiles wide is any better. it's still quite ominous. one tile would be fine, since there are lots of one-tile corridors leading to non-dangerous places 19:37:00 easier to fight in 19:37:12 yeah that's what i was leaning towards but then what PleasingFungus said 19:37:19 i checked and my memory was off 19:37:32 don't seem to be many other Vault vaults with 2-tile wide 2-door corridors 19:37:40 obviously the solution is to make twenty more vaultvaults with three-tile-wide corridors of varying lethality 19:37:52 nicolae- for president 19:37:53 i'm down 19:38:02 and by down i mean not doing anything 19:38:05 but, like, morally down. 19:38:09 with you in spirit. 19:38:19 I'm against literally everything 19:38:24 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:38:25 also doing nothing about it 19:39:11 it's a shame i'm not allowed to abuse that adjacent open/closed door bug trick 19:39:20 that'd be hilarious with vault wardens 19:39:21 i still love the vault you made for that 19:39:35 with the 8 on the end 19:39:41 yeah I think that basic trick of putting the statues after the door so the player can get sealed in 19:39:44 is maybe not the best 19:39:51 what statues 19:39:52 statues? 19:40:07 oh god, did nicolae- use G for non-statues 19:40:10 the G is vault guards, i probably should have used a different letter 19:40:14 it was a different time, gammafunk 19:40:16 you...you!!! 19:40:24 * gammafunk weeps 19:40:29 yeah that one confused me when i saw the vault too 19:40:38 i don't know des, so it made perfect sense to me! 19:40:47 *adds a check mark under a tally reading "gammafunk weeps"* 19:40:59 G is a confusing glyph for statues anyway. let's just replace all Gs with 8s 19:43:38 one of these days i'm going to do my "obfuscated c code contest" but for vaults and they're going to be completely incomprehensible 19:43:43 hrm, what exactly is the complaint about that vault? 19:44:08 the ownage was too brutal 19:44:21 well I mean, wrt autoexplore 19:44:23 autoexplore trap if vaults generation puts a 2nd set of doors at the entrance 19:44:27 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:44:32 it would 19:44:43 right, so if you open the inner door, then the outer doors would be sealed 19:44:45 the idea is once you open the second door the vault wardens are there to shut the external doors on you 19:44:46 yeah 19:44:53 so you autoexplore into something that's clearly this specific vault (triple wide corridor w/triple wide door) and then you get 'ganked' 19:45:14 seems like just moving the doors back 19:45:15 'clear' for a spoilered player who's memorized every vault ofc 19:45:17 would be the best solution 19:45:25 so that the doors are at the edge of the vault 19:45:43 nicolae specifically wants the trap part iirc 19:45:44 this is kind of an intrinsic problems wrt to Wardens, them sealing you after autoexplore, that we don't really have a way to deal with 19:45:52 i don't think it's a problem 19:45:54 most of the time 19:46:13 i mean, i can think of ways to make it a problem, but putting vault wardens behind iron grates would probably be *too* mean 19:46:16 haha 19:46:16 no it's not a problem most of the time obviously, just a problem that will happen occasionally 19:46:27 i think you're misunderstanding me 19:46:40 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:46:53 <|amethyst> the problem isn't players getting trapped, it's that they can avoid it by recognizing that 3-wide corridors aren't that common in Vaults 19:46:56 like, even when vault wardens lock the doors behind you when you autoexplore, i think that's fine as long as manual exploration wouldn't have saved you 19:46:58 and generally it won't 19:47:14 not like you can avoid entering doors in vaults 19:48:17 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:48:29 yes. i propose either narrowing the entrance to vault_meeting or making 3-wide corridors more common. and since the latter option gives me reason to make a bunch more vaults, i kind of like that one. 19:48:54 yeah I don't really buy this this vault represents something you'd especially look out for wrt vault layouts 19:49:09 rather a lot of vaults in crawl are pretty recognizable and become spoilery when you know about them 19:49:12 the age of the bug suggests that it's certainly not a critical one. 19:49:26 just a minor issue, to be fixed when practical. 19:49:27 but if nicolae- if happy with changing it, them it's all gravy 19:49:34 i spotted it while looking for something else, iirc. 19:50:22 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:53:40 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:17 -!- cmcbot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:00 CInkIbrahim (L6 VpGl) ASSERT(you.hunger_state > HS_SATIATED) in 'ability.cc' at line 1140 failed. (D:4) 20:01:16 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:01:23 interesting bug 20:02:55 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-971-gece2303: Don't allow monsters to trample past lava (7259) 10(50 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ece23030ab98 20:03:11 <|amethyst> !crashlog 20:03:16 14338. CInkIbrahim, XL6 VpGl, T:5029 (milestone): http://underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue/CInkIbrahim/crash-CInkIbrahim-20160713-000059.txt 20:03:38 <|amethyst> wand of polymorph 20:03:44 CInkIbrahim (L6 VpGl) ASSERT(you.hunger_state > HS_SATIATED) in 'ability.cc' at line 1140 failed. (D:4) 20:03:58 lol 20:04:03 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 20:04:04 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:05:27 <|amethyst> wand of polymorph into involuntary bat form, specifically 20:05:59 yeah i figured 20:06:06 vampire bat form being the same as bat form is 20:06:10 a little iffy 20:07:08 <|amethyst> ASSERT(you.hunger_state > HS_SATIATED || you.form == TRAN_BAT); would shut it up 20:07:38 but the player would still get the message "you are too full to transform right now" 20:15:57 -!- sgun_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:15:58 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:18:28 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:20:34 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:28:28 <|amethyst> oh right 20:29:08 <|amethyst> "You are too full%s to transform right now", you.form == TRAN_BAT ? " of polymorphism" : "" 20:29:15 <|amethyst> maybe not 20:29:42 |amethyst: maybe just adjust the if statement so it doesn't match if you're a vp who's not eligible to transform 20:30:28 (you.species == SP_VAMPIRE && you.experience_level >= 3 && !you.trapped_in_bat_polyform) 20:31:08 then you'll get the generic message about not having any abilities 20:33:45 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:40:54 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 20:44:16 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:44:39 -!- magistern has quit [Client Quit] 20:45:29 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:46:47 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:46:52 -!- Tungsten has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:55:04 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:55:17 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 20:56:21 Dracbot (L4 HuBe) (D:3) 20:59:10 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-972-g5a1fde6: Fix remember_name option (4781) 10(42 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5a1fde62fa0a 20:59:15 !crashlog Dracbot 20:59:15 1. Dracbot, XL4 HuBe, T:1727 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Dracbot/crash-Dracbot-20160713-005620.txt 20:59:45 !gamesby Dracbot 20:59:46 Dracbot has played 3 games, between 2016-07-12 02:59:35 and 2016-07-12 04:40:07, won 0, high score 53, total score 78, total turns 2329, play-time/day 0:20:45, total time 0:20:45. 20:59:54 poor first experience 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:15 what is the difference between vampire bat form and regular bat form 21:01:48 they're both the same form, but some places that check for bat form also check if you are a vampire and change accordingly 21:02:03 vampire bat form does more damage and has vamp brand 21:02:09 and probably some other stuff i'm forgetting 21:02:15 for example, vampires in bat form hunger slower than other races in bat form 21:02:41 if you are a vampire in bat form you always have spriggan hunger rate even if you are satiated 21:03:06 this is to match up to real life vampire physiology. 21:05:14 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 21:06:40 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-973-gb0fe355: Bugfix: floor is now lava (6108) 10(77 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b0fe35577769 21:07:22 ??goodmantis[$ 21:07:22 goodmantis[10/10]: Happy Five Year Anniversary! 21:07:25 aww 21:08:01 !learn add goodmantis 1583 21:08:02 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 21:08:02 goodmantis[11/11]: 1583 21:08:14 possibly "!do !bug 1583"? 21:08:19 or however that works 21:08:44 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-972-g5a1fde6 (34) 21:11:36 -!- debo has quit [Client Quit] 21:15:00 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:16:07 i don't understand how to trigger that vampire bat crash 21:16:13 oh wait hm 21:16:48 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 21:17:14 do you have to (a) be polymorphed into a *non-bat* (while satiated or above), then (b) become hungry, then (c) enter the ability menu? 21:17:48 no, that doesn't work. 21:22:17 ah ha, got it 21:22:41 hey PleasingFungus 21:22:41 ProzacElf: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 21:22:45 hi 21:22:47 !messages 21:22:48 (1/1) PleasingFungus said (1h 51m 31s ago): any idea *why* amybsod wants to talk to me? I'm pretty sure the only times i've talked about her game were when i was making fun of it... 21:22:59 hahaha, oh god 21:23:19 she was just asking if i'd seen you 21:23:26 that's what's worrying me! 21:23:36 what if she, like 21:23:38 lightsabers me 21:23:39 if you don't want to talk to her then i'll make some excuse 21:23:41 over the internet 21:24:02 yeah yeah, i get it 21:24:15 haha 21:24:16 idk 21:24:16 she's badgered me into playing her "game" 21:24:24 owned 21:24:26 which is....um 21:24:28 "fun" 21:24:32 for a given level of fun 21:24:51 but yeah, if you just want me to say you're busy 21:25:05 or off washing your cat 21:25:08 or whatever 21:25:24 i can just say "i dunno where he is" 21:25:32 there's no need to lie on my behalf. 21:25:48 feel free to say i'm here or w/e. practicing my lightsaber katas. 21:25:50 on my cat. 21:26:04 lol, but i won't lie on the side of saying you actually want to talk to her and just aren't around either 21:26:43 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:27:05 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-974-g51a0e26: Fix an uncancellable batform crash (CInkIbrahim) 10(50 seconds ago, 1 file, 7+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/51a0e2637487 21:27:42 my advice is to say whatever seems funniest. 21:27:46 that is the only way to live life. 21:27:46 haha 21:27:51 have you ever played slex? 21:28:16 it's like the best argument ever for minmay's "never add anything ever" ethos 21:29:15 i've never played a nethack. 21:29:18 but i've read bits of the wiki. 21:29:40 ah 21:29:54 it would probably make even less sense if you'd never played a more sensible nethack 21:30:26 The wombat's kick painfully slams into your nuts! 21:30:33 she thinks it's a good idea to have traps that fuck with your interface 21:30:36 among other things 21:31:17 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-975-gfff5315: Improve elemental_laboratory symm. (regret-index) 10(46 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fff53150abf1 21:31:22 she recently started a slashemy fork of tome2 iirc 21:31:23 i saw that list of traps 21:31:25 oh good lord 21:31:28 it's... impressive 21:31:35 lol 21:32:01 i appreciate your use of 'more' sensible nethack, btw 21:32:52 nethack4/fourk are the only ones that i think even approach a usable interface tbh 21:33:01 i'll play the other ones from time to time 21:33:27 but i mostly just play any given one of them about once a month or so 21:33:30 it's really difficult to overestimate how important a good interface is for a game 21:33:44 if the interface is bad enough, nothing else matters 21:33:46 ever checked out caves of qud? 21:33:49 i have! 21:33:54 i'm very fond of the aesthetic 21:33:58 me too! 21:34:06 it's not exactly a winner interface-wise either 21:34:09 no 21:34:13 but it's got a lot of neat ideas 21:34:15 their autoexplore is super busted 21:34:19 or at least it was 21:34:24 i wonder if it still runs you through qudzu 21:34:35 -!- DaneiTWO is now known as DaneitwoTWO 21:34:36 but i really like the character creation 21:34:41 and all the stuff you can do there 21:34:46 honestly the character creation sort of rubs me the wrong way 21:34:55 i think it's the wrong way to design a roguelike 21:35:04 and also i had a lot of laughs when i found a bunch of metal tubes that turned out to be a folding chair 21:35:11 oh yeah the artefacts are funny 21:35:13 box of crayons! 21:35:13 or discovering a box of crayons 21:35:16 yep 21:35:17 lol 21:35:18 yea! 21:35:32 there's a lot of classic price id shenangains you can get up to 21:35:34 ok, the *way* character creation works could use some help 21:35:38 but i do like all the options 21:35:57 they've improved it a lot from when i got into an argument with the creators about it, i think 21:36:15 i haven't played in about 6-8 mos 21:36:16 letting you save character creation setups as strings to reuse them later or share them with others, that's cool 21:36:29 yeah same, but i follow development 21:37:07 have they added more quests yet? 21:37:18 one or two? 21:37:34 there's a big new area (the 'six-day stilt') and a new 'biome' system 21:37:42 hmm 21:37:47 so you can wander into a slime-covered swamp or a rust-covered whatever 21:37:54 with weird monsters and item types 21:38:17 lol 21:38:22 yeah 21:38:40 i still think my favorite playthrough involved me getting a carbine with mediocre firearm skill 21:38:48 so i shot off a 3-bullet burst 21:38:59 and hit one of the big horse things by accident 21:39:10 and then didn't notice they were all coming to murder me till too late 21:39:23 lmao 21:39:30 i was doing really good before that too =D 21:39:31 death by anger horse 21:39:51 i remember people talked about pro tech involving starting with flaming hands + flying and just murdering horses from the sky 21:39:53 for xp 21:39:57 it sounded incredibly boring 21:40:06 yeah, screw that 21:40:12 i mean i'm sure you can game it 21:40:25 but at least have fun 21:41:12 flame hands is cool, and so is cold beam or whatever it's called 21:41:20 freezing hands? 21:41:26 probably 21:41:36 although i think they both have different names 21:41:52 but either way, i think you had to have some serious penalties to be able to take either and be able to fly from the start 21:41:55 don't think so 21:42:02 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:42:11 you can only ever take one downside, but there were some dumb ones 21:42:20 on the other hand, if you lucked into finding mechanical wings early, you could pretty much just cheese your way through a lot of the game 21:42:22 which is usually the way those penalties work 21:42:30 huh, didn't know the game even had mechanical wings 21:42:42 haha, yeah, i found them by dumb luck once 21:42:49 i think they were a random drop 21:42:55 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 21:43:06 nice 21:43:11 either that or i got into a cave i wasn't supposed to get to until way later 21:43:56 anyway, that game has a lot of neat ideas, i hope they put it together into something a bit tighter 21:44:08 it feels like their dwarf fortress 21:44:16 the thing they've been working on forever and will be working on forever 21:44:20 who knows tho 21:44:39 yeah, i know what you mean 21:46:32 which is cool if they keep putting out free versions 21:46:57 but then again i get a new version of dwarf fortress about once a year and hardly even play it anymore anyway 21:47:01 Ketziah (L8 DsWn) ASSERT((int)Buffer.size() == expanded_keys_left) in 'macro.cc' at line 544 failed. (D:7) 21:48:15 i doubt they'll put out more free versions now that it's on steam. who knows tho 21:48:36 ah yeah 21:48:41 certainly wouldn't begrudge them if they didn't 21:48:43 in that case i probably got the last free version 21:48:49 plausible 21:48:50 oh of course not 21:49:09 go make your money 21:49:19 but this seems like a hard genre to make money on too 21:49:34 yeah 21:49:40 their initial reports on sales were not super positive 21:49:45 yeah 21:49:59 ftl was not exactly a huge money maker 21:50:05 really? 21:50:05 and it kind of had a new spin on things 21:50:10 roguelike-wise 21:50:10 i thought it was a pretty successful kickstarter 21:50:18 ftl? 21:50:21 yeah? 21:50:27 yeah, it was 21:50:41 but i'm just saying, you're probably doing this for love and not money 21:50:45 yeah 21:50:58 i'm currently trying to make a niche game to sell to people and very worried about being able to make, like, anything from it 21:51:15 not hoping to get rich, more to avoid being evicted 21:51:19 haha 21:51:59 might try to get some pro indie dev business tips while at that roguelike conference 21:52:03 idk 21:52:13 what rl conference? 21:52:30 https://www.eventbrite.com/e/roguelike-celebration-tickets-26125753833 21:52:50 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 21:53:09 huh 21:54:01 if i had any excuse to be near SF i'd probably buy a ticket 21:54:05 but i don't =p 21:54:09