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PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 01:21:34 -!- Ayey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:26:13 -!- jbenedetto has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:26:13 -!- Elitist has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:26:56 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:31:39 -!- fooot has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:36:41 -!- Nomi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:37:30 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 01:55:22 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-958-gd69d43c 01:55:40 -!- Tea-Rex has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:55:55 -!- squidcat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:56:49 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:57:34 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 01:58:13 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:05:08 -!- Elitist has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:06:56 -!- Writ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:11:21 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:12:20 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:12:28 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:22:05 -!- Ayey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:28:04 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:32:48 -!- ByteStorm is now known as OtakuSenpai 02:34:19 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 02:47:20 -!- OtakuSenpai has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:51:41 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-958-gd69d43c 03:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02:24 -!- Isvaffel has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:11:02 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:11:49 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-958-gd69d43c (34) 03:12:12 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:12:16 -!- Idolo has quit [] 03:15:48 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 03:17:26 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:18:26 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:19:07 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 03:20:26 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:22:53 -!- Ayey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:24:39 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 03:26:53 !tell PleasingFungus if we're currently serving the release of the offline version from CDO, then yes 03:26:53 Napkin: You have 45 messages. Use !messages to read them. 03:26:54 Napkin: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 03:28:47 -!- eb_ has quit [] 03:30:28 -!- OtakuSenpai has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:33:02 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:34:42 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 03:39:53 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 04:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:10 -!- OtakuSenpai has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:01:23 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 04:01:30 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 04:04:45 -!- flappity has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:05:24 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:09:26 -!- sgun_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:12:53 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 04:14:14 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:14:28 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:14:35 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:17:53 -!- sgun_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:20:31 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:23:40 -!- Ayey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:30:35 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:31:05 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:32:07 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:32:54 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:36:53 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:41:07 -!- sgun_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:43:41 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:45:29 -!- sgun__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:45:35 -!- sgun_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:50:12 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:52:20 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:53:05 -!- sgun_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:55:12 -!- sgun__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:03:32 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:07:57 -!- slaytoven has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:24:05 -!- home has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:24:32 !tell PleasingFungus AmyBSOD (the slash'em extended dev) mentioned that she'd like to talk to you at some point whenever it's convenient 05:24:33 ProzacElf: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 05:25:03 -!- Mekire has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:26:28 -!- techieAgnostic has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 05:27:42 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:37:25 -!- Goblin1989 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:43:38 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:51:06 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:09:26 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:14:14 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:16:10 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:18:41 -!- Porost has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:25:57 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 06:30:09 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:35:09 -!- Zxpr2jk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:42:00 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:13:51 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:14:12 -!- sgun_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:15:11 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:16:53 -!- sgun__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:22:56 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:23:57 -!- MaBunny is now known as ByteStorm 07:45:09 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:52:12 -!- Telnaior has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:57:21 -!- Torax_ is now known as Tiltorax 07:59:19 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 08:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:04:59 -!- ByteStorm has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:07:15 -!- MaBunny has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 08:27:12 -!- Alcopop has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:30:50 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:32:01 -!- MaBunny is now known as ByteStorm 08:32:50 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:39:44 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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(master - 991fc86 #6163 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/143930798 13:02:38 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 13:03:07 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:04:33 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-959-g991fc86 (34) 13:08:51 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-959-g991fc86 (34) 13:09:16 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:10:03 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:10:08 -!- Kenran has joined ##crawl-dev 13:12:33 -!- Ayey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:15:33 -!- Laraso_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:22:06 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 13:25:07 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:25:26 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 13:28:16 -!- hells has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:30:18 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:30:35 -!- Laraso__ is now known as Laraso 13:34:54 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:37:04 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:37:42 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:41:16 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:44:57 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:52:09 -!- slaytoven has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:58:49 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:59:41 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:02:11 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:08:03 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:10:14 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:12:56 -!- Ayey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:21:08 -!- grammu has joined ##crawl-dev 14:22:52 -!- grammus has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:23:26 -!- ByteStorm has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:27:08 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:31:38 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:43:34 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:51:32 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:33 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:03:30 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 15:10:46 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 15:14:06 -!- Ayey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:14:59 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Quit: *ollies out*] 15:19:34 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:22:20 -!- Galewind has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:27:12 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:35:33 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:37:05 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:37:22 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:39:06 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:48:39 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:52:54 -!- Porost has quit [Client Quit] 15:58:44 did you know: " is pleased with you" has two distinct meanings depending on where you read it 15:59:02 can you elaborate, MarvinPA? 15:59:17 sometimes it can mean the same as " is most pleased with you"! 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:26 shmup: ^ and p have two distinct sets of flavour messages to indicate your piety level 16:00:45 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:50 a couple of the messages show up in both places but they mean different things in each place 16:04:49 ahh 16:06:22 |amethyst: is it true your current computer is still one you built in 2002? 16:12:48 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:14:23 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-960-gcf287ad: Fix pain bond not actually working for low-intelligence monsters 10(35 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cf287ad9c5a6 16:14:23 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-961-g643fa04: Remove monster-cast Death's Door 10(34 hours ago, 12 files, 20+ 68-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/643fa04f8559 16:14:23 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-962-gb633e9c: Adjust faerie dragon armour properties 10(34 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b633e9cc8423 16:14:23 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-963-g13f8e94: Unseal doors/stairs when polymorphing vault wardens 10(2 hours ago, 3 files, 22+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/13f8e943394f 16:14:23 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-964-ga6a42c3: Fix Trog wrath's rotting effect 10(37 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a6a42c35fe5d 16:14:23 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-965-g50bf062: Fix chardump messaging for Gozag favour 10(6 minutes ago, 3 files, 23+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/50bf062cc738 16:17:09 -!- Tungsten has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:17:17 What is the piety cost on new Sif channel? median 5 or so? 16:17:30 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:18:24 more like 2-3 16:19:01 i guess it just seems high since the piety gain is so bad 16:28:55 -!- MartinW has joined ##crawl-dev 16:31:51 How is crawl's development co-ordinated? 16:31:56 Is there a mailing list or a forum? 16:32:52 ??mailing list 16:32:52 c-r-d[1/2]: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/crawl-ref-discuss 16:32:56 mostly this channel, there's a mailing list too 16:33:21 -!- fufumann has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:33:50 -!- FitzyFitz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:33:54 nikheizen: you can still use it quite a lot in practice. I never ran into much issue myself 16:34:18 on a character that trained a bunch of fighting/armour/dodging 16:34:57 i will chalk it up to my inexperience with dcss wizards 16:34:59 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:35:13 i've been hanging around 3*/4* most of the game 16:41:14 hmm 16:41:15 http://dev.host/~shmup/crawl/ghost-of-the-week.txt 16:41:23 can I ignore particular names with a !lg query? 16:41:32 so I don't have to manually ignore gw and tstbtto 16:41:36 sorry also, these could go in ##crawl. 16:42:12 kinda wish bots could be tagged for !bots tag in queries, heh 16:42:41 actually that might be possible with current tech, defining new things 16:42:59 there's a bot nick alias so that probably already works 16:43:08 !lg bot 16:43:09 80462. tstbtto the Carver (L7 MiFi of Okawaru), slain by a mummy in Ossuary (ossuary_zaba_flooded) on 2016-07-11 20:04:47, with 562 points after 3738 turns and 0:03:31. 16:43:15 can you inverse it? 16:43:17 !lg !bot 16:43:21 5812126. deifeln the Basher (L9 TrHu of Okawaru), slain by a killer bee on D:8 on 2016-07-11 20:41:59, with 2306 points after 6011 turns and 0:14:57. 16:43:26 !lg * 16:43:28 !lg !bot * week !boring s=killer killer=~ghost 16:43:28 5892589. deifeln the Basher (L9 TrHu of Okawaru), slain by a killer bee on D:8 on 2016-07-11 20:41:59, with 2306 points after 6011 turns and 0:14:57. 16:43:29 1236 games for bot (* week !boring killer=~ghost): 25x tstbtto's ghost, 17x 1321a's ghost, 15x whosad's ghost, 14x Wuag's ghost, 14x AFeyhwan's ghost, 12x Smrgol's ghost, 9x SwaRR's ghost, 9x Keinz's ghost, 9x kreitia's ghost, 9x ydungwoo's ghost, 8x WhyteDragon's ghost, 8x moogleknight's ghost, 8x CInkIbrahim's ghost, 8x DrLGR's ghost, 8x callmezampa's ghost, 8x loom's ghost, 7x TBriggs11TB's gho... 16:43:33 looks like it 16:43:36 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:43:39 !lg * week !boring s=killer killer=~ghost !bot 16:43:40 No keyword 'bot' 16:43:40 -!- Elitist has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:43:50 !lg !bot week !boring s=killer killer=~ghost 16:43:51 1236 games for bot (week !boring killer=~ghost): 25x tstbtto's ghost, 17x 1321a's ghost, 15x whosad's ghost, 14x Wuag's ghost, 14x AFeyhwan's ghost, 12x Smrgol's ghost, 9x SwaRR's ghost, 9x Keinz's ghost, 9x kreitia's ghost, 9x ydungwoo's ghost, 8x WhyteDragon's ghost, 8x moogleknight's ghost, 8x CInkIbrahim's ghost, 8x DrLGR's ghost, 8x callmezampa's ghost, 8x loom's ghost, 7x TBriggs11TB's ghost... 16:44:04 hm. 16:44:55 oh i guess you want the killer not to be a bot, as well as the kill-ee 16:45:17 yeah I'm kinda.. asking for something a bit more fine tuned 16:45:53 so that's probably trickier, not sure. maybe ask in ##crawl-sequell, or it might be that you just have to exclude them individually 16:46:19 ah. wasn't aware of that chan. thanks 16:46:20 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:53:36 -!- JimmahDean has quit [] 16:57:12 -!- Ayey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:03:43 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:04:18 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 17:04:19 The build passed. (master - 50bf062 #6164 : Chris Campbell): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/143988084 17:04:19 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 17:04:32 .echo $(join "|" (map (fn (n) (.echo ${n}'s ghost)) (nick-aliases bot))) 17:04:33 autorobin's ghost|xw's ghost|auto7hm's ghost|rw's ghost|qw's ghost|ow's ghost|qwrobin's ghost|gw's ghost|notqw's ghost|jw's ghost|parabodrick's ghost|hyperqwbe's ghost|cashybrid's ghost|tstbtto's ghost|parabolic's ghost|oppbolic's ghost|ew's ghost|rushxxi's ghost|gaubot's ghost|cojitobot's ghost|paulcdejean's ghost|otabotab's ghost|nakatomy's ghost|testingqw's ghost|beemell's ghost|beem's ghost|dr... 17:04:41 something like that can probably be used 17:04:52 .echo $(join "|" (map (fn (n) (.echo ${n}'s_ghost)) (nick-aliases bot))) 17:04:52 autorobin's_ghost|xw's_ghost|auto7hm's_ghost|rw's_ghost|qw's_ghost|ow's_ghost|qwrobin's_ghost|gw's_ghost|notqw's_ghost|jw's_ghost|parabodrick's_ghost|hyperqwbe's_ghost|cashybrid's_ghost|tstbtto's_ghost|parabolic's_ghost|oppbolic's_ghost|ew's_ghost|rushxxi's_ghost|gaubot's_ghost|cojitobot's_ghost|paulcdejean's_ghost|otabotab's_ghost|nakatomy's_ghost|testingqw's_ghost|beemell's_ghost|beem's_ghost|dr... 17:05:15 but if there are bot names ending in s you might need something better 17:05:16 !nick bot 17:05:17 Mapping bot => autorobin xw auto7hm rw qw ow qwrobin gw notqw jw parabodrick hyperqwbe cashybrid tstbtto parabolic oppbolic ew rushxxi gaubot cojitobot paulcdejean otabotab nakatomy testingqw beemell beem drasked phybot medicine 17:06:51 seems that the ghost name is always made possesive with 's, so it should work 17:07:32 but the -sequell people will probably know how to better deal with strings in sequell, that's a thing that always gets me 17:08:11 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:08:25 !lg * ckiller=player_ghost killer=$(.echo (join "|" (map (fn (n) (.echo ${n}'s_ghost)) (nick-aliases bot))) 17:08:26 Broken query near ' "|" (map (fn (n) (.echo ${n}'s_ghost)) (nick-aliases bot)))' 17:08:45 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-965-g50bf062 (34) 17:11:52 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:12:00 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:12:11 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:15:02 -!- PsiRedEye22 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:15:28 -!- Esxyzzz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:16:21 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 17:17:24 !lg !bot ckiller=player_ghost killer!=$(join "|" (map (fn (n) (.echo ${n}'s_ghost)) (nick-aliases bot))) 17:17:37 183849. tagomago the Cudgeler (L5 MiFi), blasted by crippledick's ghost (rocky blast) on D:3 on 2016-07-11 21:12:41, with 151 points after 2059 turns and 0:03:55. 17:17:48 shmup: not sure if you got an answer, but something like the above might be what you want 17:18:36 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:20:14 -!- MadCoyote has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:21:20 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:24:27 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:24:51 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:32:11 !lg !bot ckiller=player_ghost killer=$(join "|" (map (fn (n) (.echo ${n}'s_ghost)) (nick-aliases bot))) s=src,killer 17:32:18 !lg !bot week !boring ckiller=player_ghost s=killer killer=~ghost killer!=$(join "|" (map (fn (n) (.echo ${n}'s_ghost)) (nick-aliases bot))) 17:32:30 1155 games for bot (ckiller=player_ghost killer=autorobin's_ghost|xw's_ghost|auto7hm's_ghost|rw's_ghost|qw's_ghost|ow's_ghost|qwrobin's_ghost|gw's_ghost|notqw's_ghost|jw's_ghost|parabodrick's_ghost|hyperqwbe's_ghost|cashybrid's_ghost|tstbtto's_ghost|parabolic's_ghost|oppbolic's_ghost|ew's_ghost|rushxxi's_ghost|gaubot's_ghost|cojitobot's_ghost|paulcdejean's_ghost|otabotab's_ghost|nakatomy's_ghost|t... 17:32:31 1179 games for bot (week !boring ckiller=player_ghost killer=~ghost killer!=autorobin's_ghost|xw's_ghost|auto7hm's_ghost|rw's_ghost|qw's_ghost|ow's_ghost|qwrobin's_ghost|gw's_ghost|notqw's_ghost|jw's_ghost|parabodrick's_ghost|hyperqwbe's_ghost|cashybrid's_ghost|tstbtto's_ghost|parabolic's_ghost|oppbolic's_ghost|ew's_ghost|rushxxi's_ghost|gaubot's_ghost|cojitobot's_ghost|paulcdejean's_ghost|otabota... 17:32:51 shmup: you shouldn't add that killer=~ghost thing if you have ckiller=player_ghost 17:33:19 ckiller is canonical killer, and any player ghost killer will have a ckiller value of player_ghost 17:33:47 I suppose that may not have been present in some ancient versions 17:33:57 would one get in trouble for running a bot designed specifically to destroy ghosts? 17:34:05 heh 17:34:16 my isp is driving me insane right now 17:34:58 ff 17:35:04 to be clear, I'm not going to do this, but I have a feeling someone else might soon 17:35:15 yeah for that query, you probably also want to change title, and just do it in pm 17:35:20 I'm assuming it would just be a formicid that shafts itself to d:15 and quits, over and over 17:35:34 !lg !bot ckiller=player_ghost killer=$(join "|" (map (fn (n) (.echo ${n}'s_ghost)) (nick-aliases bot))) title:"gbots" s=src,killer 17:35:54 gbots: 389x cszo (137x xw's ghost, 137x rw's ghost, 51x qw's ghost, 40x tstbtto's ghost, 8x parabodrick's ghost, 5x oppbolic's ghost, 3x RushXXI's ghost, 2x hyperqwbe's ghost, drasked's ghost, ow's ghost, Nakatomy's ghost, notqw's ghost, testingqw's ghost, Beemell's ghost), 294x cbro (270x gw's ghost, 16x jw's ghost, 5x xw's ghost, 3x medicine's ghost), 252x cao (136x qw's ghost, 54x tstbtto's gho... 17:36:00 completely unrelated: there seems to be some weird stuff with subvault mirroring 17:36:25 [TAG] Found map minmay_the_grid_medium_cups tagged 'the_grid' 17:36:25 Rotating minmay_the_grid_medium_cups clockwise. 17:36:25 Mirroring minmay_the_grid_medium_cups horizontally. 17:36:25 by default the titles will contain your query arguments, which in this case there's a very long one in that killer!= argument 17:36:25 Mirroring minmay_the_grid_medium_cups vertically. 17:36:25 Mirroring minmay_the_grid_medium_cups horizontally. 17:36:25 Mirroring minmay_the_grid_medium_cups vertically. 17:36:27 Mirroring minmay_the_grid_medium_cups horizontally. 17:36:42 it's not trying to place the vault in between those transforms? 17:37:07 mosh: Last contact 20 seconds ago. [To quit: Ctrl-^ .] 17:37:21 None of those transforms would affect connectivity 17:37:22 ^ mosh is cool but seeing that for many minutes over and over, resetting.. 17:37:26 !vault minmay_the_grid_medium_cups 17:37:26 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/the_grid.des#l777 17:37:31 anyways yeah you're right gammafunk, let me try again 17:37:43 !lg !bot week !boring s=killer killer=~ghost killer!=$(join "|" (map (fn (n) (.echo ${n}'s_ghost)) (nick-aliases bot))) -graph 17:37:45 1197 games for bot (week !boring killer=~ghost killer!=autorobin's_ghost|xw's_ghost|auto7hm's_ghost|rw's_ghost|qw's_ghost|ow's_ghost|qwrobin's_ghost|gw's_ghost|notqw's_ghost|jw's_ghost|parabodrick's_ghost|hyperqwbe's_ghost|cashybrid's_ghost|tstbtto's_ghost|parabolic's_ghost|oppbolic's_ghost|ew's_ghost|rushxxi's_ghost|gaubot's_ghost|cojitobot's_ghost|paulcdejean's_ghost|otabotab's_ghost|nakatomy's_... 17:38:03 yeah you need to set a title 17:38:13 add title:"bots" or something 17:38:28 so that it won't reprint that killer arg 17:38:56 yeah heh, not familiar with that key:value syntax, does it go anywhere particular? 17:39:15 it's a normal lg/lm argument 17:39:26 so yeah can go anwhere, surround by space(s) like other args 17:39:33 !lg !bot week !boring s=killer killer=~ghost killer!=$(join "|" (map (fn (n) (.echo ${n}'s_ghost)) (nick-aliases bot))) title:"bots" -graph 17:39:34 1196 games for bot (week !boring killer=~ghost killer!=autorobin's_ghost|xw's_ghost|auto7hm's_ghost|rw's_ghost|qw's_ghost|ow's_ghost|qwrobin's_ghost|gw's_ghost|notqw's_ghost|jw's_ghost|parabodrick's_ghost|hyperqwbe's_ghost|cashybrid's_ghost|tstbtto's_ghost|parabolic's_ghost|oppbolic's_ghost|ew's_ghost|rushxxi's_ghost|gaubot's_ghost|cojitobot's_ghost|paulcdejean's_ghost|otabotab's_ghost|nakatomy's_... 17:39:40 er 17:39:50 !lg !bot week !boring s=killer killer=~ghost title:"bots" killer!=$(join "|" (map (fn (n) (.echo ${n}'s_ghost)) (nick-aliases bot))) -graph 17:39:52 1196 games for bot (week !boring killer=~ghost killer!=autorobin's_ghost|xw's_ghost|auto7hm's_ghost|rw's_ghost|qw's_ghost|ow's_ghost|qwrobin's_ghost|gw's_ghost|notqw's_ghost|jw's_ghost|parabodrick's_ghost|hyperqwbe's_ghost|cashybrid's_ghost|tstbtto's_ghost|parabolic's_ghost|oppbolic's_ghost|ew's_ghost|rushxxi's_ghost|gaubot's_ghost|cojitobot's_ghost|paulcdejean's_ghost|otabotab's_ghost|nakatomy's_... 17:40:07 !lg !bot week !boring s=killer killer=~ghost killer!=$(join "|" (map (fn (n) (.echo ${n}'s_ghost)) (nick-aliases bot))) title:"bots" 17:40:09 bots: 17x 1321a's ghost, 15x whosad's ghost, 14x Wuag's ghost, 14x AFeyhwan's ghost, 12x Smrgol's ghost, 9x SwaRR's ghost, 9x ydungwoo's ghost, 9x Keinz's ghost, 9x kreitia's ghost, 8x moogleknight's ghost, 8x loom's ghost, 8x callmezampa's ghost, 8x DrLGR's ghost, 8x CInkIbrahim's ghost, 7x Aquadorian's ghost, 7x crawlingfox's ghost, 7x WhyteDragon's ghost, 7x skycrisise's ghost, 7x zervinho's gh... 17:40:18 hrm, seems that use of -graph makes that always print 17:40:23 !lg !bot week !boring s=killer killer=~ghost killer!=$(join "|" (map (fn (n) (.echo ${n}'s_ghost)) (nick-aliases bot))) title:"bots" 17:40:25 bots: 17x 1321a's ghost, 15x whosad's ghost, 14x Wuag's ghost, 14x AFeyhwan's ghost, 12x Smrgol's ghost, 9x SwaRR's ghost, 9x ydungwoo's ghost, 9x Keinz's ghost, 9x kreitia's ghost, 8x moogleknight's ghost, 8x loom's ghost, 8x callmezampa's ghost, 8x DrLGR's ghost, 8x CInkIbrahim's ghost, 7x Aquadorian's ghost, 7x crawlingfox's ghost, 7x WhyteDragon's ghost, 7x skycrisise's ghost, 7x zervinho's gh... 17:40:27 so you might just have to do it in pm 17:40:37 not sure if you can change that when using graph 17:40:41 that is in fact the proper command, though. i didn't need -graph, just trying to shorten result here 17:40:47 thanks much gammafunk 17:42:03 gammafunk what if slugs had legs 17:42:11 would that make them speed 10? 17:42:19 !lg !bot week !boring ckiller=player_ghost killer!=$(join "|" (map (fn (n) (.echo ${n}'s_ghost)) (nick-aliases bot))) title:"bots" cxc s=killer 17:42:20 bots: 7x Aquadorian's ghost, 6x TBriggs11TB's ghost, 5x tyranidshit's ghost, 5x junkhipster's ghost, 4x Gagarin's ghost, 4x Rationalist's ghost, 4x Typee's ghost, 3x Galewin's ghost, 3x poirepourri's ghost, 3x Shenda's ghost, 2x PeterLawrence's ghost, 2x kobby's ghost, 2x simples's ghost, 2x daning's ghost, 2x nikopol's ghost, 2x Goblin1989's ghost, Leszczynek's ghost, Thrillho's ghost, Lessnames'... 17:42:29 !lg !bot week !boring ckiller=player_ghost killer=$(join "|" (map (fn (n) (.echo ${n}'s_ghost)) (nick-aliases bot))) title:"bots" cxc s=killer 17:42:30 bots: 25x tstbtto's ghost 17:42:35 heh thanks 17:42:40 shortens the result set. you'er so conservative 17:42:55 cxc is doing that or? 17:43:03 oh yeah, just looking on cxc 17:43:05 !kw cxc 17:43:05 Built-in: cxc => src=cxc 17:43:07 just that server 17:43:12 wanted to see what bots were active 17:43:21 but yeah, if you can do multiple queries 17:43:28 that is really slick. 17:43:31 you can shorten results that way as well 17:43:46 shmup: there are a ton of kw available, check ??userdef 17:43:48 ??userdef 17:43:48 userdef[1/1]: https://loom.shalott.org/userdef.html 17:43:59 that's all user-defined kw and commands and functions 17:44:10 cxc is a built-in, I think those are on that page as well 17:47:54 this is a bit more difficult to include in a GET to the learndb web api 17:48:08 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:48:09 url encoding the query is getting me back an empty result set 17:48:16 what's the query? 17:48:42 you can pastebin it if it's long 17:48:50 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:48:52 https://loom.shalott.org/api/sequell/game?q=!lg+!bot+week+!boring+s=killer+killer=~ghost+killer!=$(join+"|"+(map+(fn+(n)+(.echo+${n}'s_ghost))+(nick-aliases+bot)))+title:"bots" 17:49:15 hrm, I'm not sure if those + are legit 17:49:23 are those synonymous with e.g. %20 ? 17:49:28 https://loom.shalott.org/api/sequell/game?q=!hs+shmup 17:49:34 that's the dev's requirement 17:49:36 it splits on + 17:49:39 I assume 17:49:44 %20 does not work, for example 17:49:47 interesting 17:49:55 okay it does, sorry. it didnt on long url 17:50:07 anyways i just stole the convention from using his actual search input box 17:50:11 well, some of those other things, do they need to be url-encoded? 17:50:23 that's what I was thinking.. a more manual approach to encoding 17:50:40 well it's not exactly "more manual" it's just "url encode things that need url encoding" 17:50:48 you can find things that url-encode text online 17:51:11 yeah that's what i used, i figured it was doing the minimum req 17:51:18 http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/dencoder/ 17:51:27 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 17:51:28 + is like %20, yes 17:51:47 shmup: I used that same encoder, and it definitely replaced more things 17:52:00 the url I gave you wasn't encoded, btw 17:52:07 i was giving you an example of how to use it 17:52:08 -!- InvisiblePinkUni is now known as InvisPinkUnicorn 17:52:14 readable human format 17:52:38 but i'm trying to get it working encoded. the forms enoding was possibly too much, and so an empty result set 17:52:44 s/enoding/encoding 17:53:13 shmup: I doubt snark is hand-url-decoding this input in the sense of some patterns he's applying 17:53:22 he's probably using a url-decoding lib, so it should url-decode systematically 17:53:25 let me try this 17:53:32 https://loom.shalott.org/api/sequell/game?q=!lg%2B!bot%2Bweek%2B!boring%2Bs%3Dkiller%2Bkiller%3D~ghost%2Bkiller!%3D%24(join%2B%22%7C%22%2B(map%2B(fn%2B(n)%2B(.echo%2B%24%7Bn%7D%27s_ghost))%2B(nick-aliases%2Bbot)))%2Btitle%3A%22bots%22 17:53:36 sure 17:53:36 there's what it'll generate, though 17:53:46 right, that's fully url-encoded 17:53:54 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:55:11 -!- RedFeather has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]] 17:55:20 looks like it's having trouble with those double-quotes, maybe 17:56:02 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:56:42 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:57:34 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:58:40 does he have a text input interface that uses this api? 17:59:24 that'd be handy for inspecting network tab, but I don't think so 17:59:44 he gives a few example on api docs, which is where I saw the + 17:59:50 where are the api docs? 17:59:51 was thinking I used the input earlier but just learnndb 17:59:59 is that in the sequell documention 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:05 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:12 https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/docs/api.md 18:02:01 https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/cbb0c7244f9727949bc6d4a9242c6c473d63c068/services/http/http_service.rb#L39-L45 18:02:22 i'm not a ruby man but I'd assume sinatra handles decoding 18:03:17 that was a bad url. 18:03:42 i take it back. I don't think that's decoding 18:06:19 well I can give it something like 18:06:25 https://loom.shalott.org/api/sequell/game?q=!lg+!bot+week+!boring+ckiller%3Dplayer_ghost+killer%3D%24(join+%22%7C%22+(map+(fn+(n)+(.echo+%24%7Bn%7D%27s_ghost))+(nick-aliases+bot)))+cxc+s%3Dkiller 18:06:41 but I think the api just can't handle parsing sequell commands in the query 18:06:58 like irc sequell can 18:07:26 I'm not sure what its limitations are 18:07:40 it may be possible to make it work by putting most of that killer arg in e.g. a sequell function 18:07:44 or another sequell command 18:08:07 so it'd look like killer=$(!bot-killers) 18:08:40 and then !bot-killers was a command prodcuing that string of |-separated ghost killer strings 18:09:01 you might want to just ask snark if the API can support the command you're trying to run 18:10:18 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 18:12:51 -!- sgun_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:15:40 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-a0-965-g50bf062 (34) 18:17:13 -!- home has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:38:28 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:39:26 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:40:11 -!- andre has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:41:11 -!- andre is now known as Guest14098 18:41:58 -!- Guest14098 has quit [Client Quit] 18:43:08 -!- InvisPinkUnicorn has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 18:44:58 -!- nezrel has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:48:06 Unlinked item(dropped orc weapon) 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10559 by Shard1697 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:04:04 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:11:41 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:18:42 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:21:34 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:23:10 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:30:38 -!- Evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:32:58 There is a very interesting tavern thread by ion_frigate: "Abstract away monster weapons" (20675, cannot post link here) 19:34:57 has my vote 19:35:24 yes, my too... thought I mention it here 19:35:52 there are some interesting situations caused by monster weapons but you can pretty much count them on one hand 19:35:57 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:36:12 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:37:03 ontoclasm: yes. ion_frigate's reason is really strong, very good post. 19:37:21 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:37:23 uh..you're trying to remove monsters using shillelagh??? 19:37:29 They create a lot of pointless variation in monsters: If I told you that I wanted to introduce two monsters, with identical stats except one had a base damage of 45, the other of 40, I think you'd tell me just to merge them. 19:37:53 is there a philosophy amongst devs to keep a certain amount of rng, or 19:38:23 because the change would keep consistency among same basic monsters right? 19:38:37 gammafunk: you can always make special cases, but as a rule, most weapons matter little. 19:38:44 first line was me quoting 19:39:01 shmup: to some extent. There's still the HP distribution, for example. 19:39:05 dpeg: its_a_joke.txt 19:39:19 * dpeg is notoriously bad a jokes. 19:39:26 The ??? could've been a hint. 19:39:42 that's an ellipticism I stole, yeah 19:45:37 FR: all quotes of elliptic to end ... 19:46:30 but what about hyperbolic? :p 19:48:02 the ??? signifier reminds me, i developed a heuristic in another irc channel that turned out to be quite accurate. if anyone asked a question ending with ??, my bot would automatically respond with something negative like "no, what you want is impossible" 19:48:23 haha!! 19:48:28 it had very few false positives 19:48:52 Eliza so proud of you. 19:50:06 ‽ 19:52:54 -!- Evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:53:48 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 19:57:15 Hey folks, how's it going? 19:57:36 Lasty at last! 19:57:48 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:57:51 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:57:58 dpeg: So, I'm going to GenCon this year. Trying to meet up with companies who might publish some of my board games. I just sent emails to a few publishers, trying to arrange meetings, and it's all very intimidating. 19:57:59 -!- debo_ is now known as debo 19:58:02 amalloy: that's betteridge's law, also 19:58:10 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines 19:58:21 well it doesn't work for a single question mark 19:58:29 lol 19:58:32 people ask reasonable questions on irc all the time, but they never do so with ?? 19:58:37 "Is crawl the best roguelike??" 19:59:03 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:59:07 "Hey folks, how's it going??" 19:59:20 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 19:59:33 Lasty: i noticed a problem with the grand finale targeter btw 19:59:39 Lasty: shaky connection as soon as you enter :) Good luck with the prototypes! 19:59:48 let's try that again... 19:59:51 question 20:00:00 is it at all possible to see the hd or tnl of an orc follower while worshipping beogh 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:02 and if not, why not 20:00:06 when it default-targets a monster (ie, the one it aims for when you press ac but don't retarget), the monster gets a red foreground instead of a red background (in console) 20:00:41 ??tnl 20:00:41 tnl ~ tsl ~ the slimy lichmummy[1/1]: http://www.happyponyland.net/roguelike.php 20:00:45 koboldina: help 20:00:58 "to next level" like how much experience they'd need to get another hd 20:01:25 -!- plt has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:05:05 dpeg: thanks, man! 20:06:05 Lasty: the gaming market is exploding, I hope it's not saturated yet. 20:06:09 amalloy: hmm. Is that in console only or tiles too? 20:06:26 dpeg: I do think it's a bit hard to get in these days 20:06:31 Lasty: i don't know. haven't tried in tiles, honestly don't know what targeting looks like in tiles 20:06:45 a lot of people are going w/ kickstarter these days 20:06:53 but that's a lot of work 20:09:03 !seen floodkiller 20:09:03 I last saw Floodkiller at Sun May 8 23:37:50 2016 UTC (9w 1d 31m 12s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: Page closed'. 20:11:26 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:12:18 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 20:13:48 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:16:41 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:18:09 koboldina: monster HD is kept hidden from the player on purpose; the only thing you're meant to see is the monsters current class 20:18:18 -!- asdu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:18:27 as in warrior vs warlord 20:19:03 for beogh in particular it might be nice to have a special follower listing, but I'm not sure how it would work 20:19:19 gammafunk: could be under ^ 20:19:22 in terms of showing "%N of the way to become a warlord" 20:19:38 it's not exactly where to put it, but what do you list and how 20:22:40 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 20:28:34 gammafunk I personally think it would be nice to see where warlords are at because I like to train my orcs like pokemon 20:28:44 but currently I have no idea if they're "done" leveling or not 20:29:27 as for what to list and how, maybe just the stuff that's shown in ctrl-x right now (items, name, etc) plus hd/level information 20:30:31 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:31:53 -!- Evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:31:55 huh, are beogh orcs ever done growing up before they become a warlord/sorc/hp? 20:32:49 koboldina: I understand this information is cool but is it really necessary? 20:33:01 koboldina has been playing that hit new game, Beogh Go 20:33:50 it looks to me like they gain exactly one hd every time they hit the necessary XP threshold, up to a max hd of 27; and when their HD is high enough to get "promoted" to warrior/knight/warlord, or to HP/Sorcerer for caster types, they promote 20:34:04 * dpeg is a go player. 20:34:10 so like, you can always look at a knight, and know it's not done being promoted, because warlord is still left 20:34:54 @??orc warlord 20:34:55 orc warlord (11o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 90-131 | AC/EV: 12/7 | Dam: 32 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 1668 | Sp: battlecry [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 20:35:10 unless it's possible to be gifted a knight whose hd is already above 15 somehow. then he would never promote 20:35:12 -!- rj54x has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:35:16 -!- pyrotecnix has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:40:18 I mentioned it in thread but 20:40:38 I think the abstracted weapons proposal would be really, really good for beogh 20:41:10 assuming that all orc warriors/knights/warlords are given reaching 20:41:32 so you don't have to grab spears and tridents and carry them around until you get orcs with names 20:41:46 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 20:43:09 not that most proposals, that one included are made with beogh in mind 20:43:26 dpeg: no it's not strictly necessary but given that beogh is meant to be the god of micromanagement I have a hard time seeing it as totally irrelevant information 20:44:14 man, do people really do that. i can see how that might be optimal, but jeez what a pain. are polearms really so good on monsters that you'd rather give them a mediocre polearm than, say, an ego platemail or a greatsword? 20:44:24 spears and tridents are just so garbage 20:44:37 koboldina: We're trying to keep the micromanagement low. 20:44:45 I do that 20:44:48 absolutely 20:45:00 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 20:45:01 and lower base weapon damage is worth it for the faster speed 20:45:02 koboldina: this is why you can only give one item. 20:45:11 since they get most of their damage from the monster's base damage 20:45:32 so a warlord with a spear is still hitting for 32+(weapon damage) 20:45:56 but he's hitting faster because it's a spear, and monster weapon attack speed is like... averaged between 10 and base speed of weapon, iirc 20:46:21 And by far the most important thing with beogh is giving them polearms of any type. 20:46:26 reminds me of antaeus with wyrmbane 20:46:48 That way they can hit over you and each other, so you can have much more orcs attacking monsters at once 20:46:52 and it keeps them more safe 20:47:16 since they won't walk within 1 tile of enemies to hit them, so they won't suicidally walk around you onto dangerous tiles as much 20:47:30 micromanagement was never the point of beogh. it was more, trying to have a messianic god without turning it into orc-flavored yred 20:48:05 geekosaur: yeah 20:48:35 maybe, but at any rate the most fun thing to do with beogh is to get a squad of tough orcs with polearms who can tear up virtually any enemy you run into 20:49:10 and I think if monster weapons are abstracted, giving orc warriors and such reaching is a great way to keep that while cutting out the more dull micromanagement 20:49:10 Shard1697: if that's true (and it sounds trueish to me), it sounds like a problem in itself: if they only correct gift to give is a polearm, the gifts aren't really accomplishing the goal of letting players choose a thing to give to their orcs 20:49:13 hm, ion_frigate's proposal could help with that too 20:49:17 right 20:49:22 amalloy: yes 20:49:22 that's absolutely true amalloy 20:49:56 right choice is always polearm, which makes gifts "give it a polearm", or if it has 1H polearm already, "give it a shield" 20:50:28 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:51:39 I mean even if the monster-weapon-abstraction thing doesn't happen, I would like gifts removed in favor of "beogh gives all melee orcs polearms". 20:52:33 -!- slaytoven has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:53:11 -!- InvisPinkUnicorn has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 20:53:42 i'm not sure the right answer would be to make orcs stronger (ie, give all orcs polearms), rather than weaker (ie, give no orcs polearms). they're already plenty good without polearms, and there are a lot of players (eg me) who don't realize how strong it is to give them one 20:54:59 I think they're much more fun and non-frustrating to play with polearms, and even with that knowledge, I don't think beogh is a top tier god 20:55:44 also: with monster weapon abstraction(MWA?), I think it would be good to have innate reaching on at least some kinds of orcs to have enemies that have reaching besides turtles 20:56:17 merfolk presumably 20:56:33 true, but that's fairly late on 20:56:37 and I'm thinking of like 20:56:44 vaults where enemies poke you over deep water 20:56:50 like that one bailey for instance 20:57:10 s/that one/every friggin/ 20:58:13 amalloy: no, only half of 'em! 20:58:21 yeah, half is about right i think 20:58:49 amalloy: we made two Bailey paths: axes and polearms. 20:58:58 (we = Zaba & I) 20:59:01 sincerely when your allies are permanent, long term investments, it's a lot less annoying to have them attack from 2 tiles away, and thus be a little less likely to fling themselves to their death 20:59:20 means stuff like... when you're at a 1 tile wide chokehold with monsters on the other side 20:59:34 your idiot orcs will not walk into the choke and get hit by 3+ monsters 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:34 Shard1697: I am interested in MWA for other reasons, the orcs are only icing on the cake. 21:00:53 sure. it's definitely a less important part compared to other things 21:01:14 but as one of the only people who seems to like beogh I wanna mention this stuff 21:02:09 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 21:02:56 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:03:34 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:06:23 -!- Evablue 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