00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01:49 !lg . gh tomb 00:01:50 1. PleasingFungus the Ticktocktomancer (L24 GhAs of Cheibriados), mangled by a sphinx on Tomb:1 (tomb_1) on 2014-09-06 05:05:15, with 457194 points after 48137 turns and 4:30:31. 00:01:57 !hs . ghwz 00:01:58 3. PleasingFungus the Timeless (L27 GhWz of Cheibriados), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-12-26 03:24:12, with 1890703 points after 54515 turns and 6:26:02. 00:02:00 ahh 00:02:02 was mixing those up 00:02:09 !log . ghwz 00:02:10 1. hyperminmay, XL27 GhWz, T:119536: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/hyperminmay/morgue-hyperminmay-20120108-011843.txt 00:02:23 ghwz is easy, it always finds PDA on d:2 00:02:26 lmao 00:02:30 yeah i was gonna say that is... 00:02:34 some good shit for a 3-rune game 00:05:57 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:05:58 -!- Cerpin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:06:53 -!- grisha5|AFK is now known as grisha5 00:07:40 -!- home has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:08:46 I can never resist going unarmed on Gh 00:11:09 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:14:40 btw PF, you see the zombie tiles I submitted? 00:14:50 yeah but i've been doing other stuff 00:15:28 sure sure. close to a holiday after all 00:15:45 was just curious if at a glance you thought any needed touching up 00:16:00 i'm a fan of the guardian serpent 00:16:06 haha and you have a new worm tile 00:16:13 zombie worm 00:16:35 if you were a truly virtuous soul, you would learn how to compile the game & add your zombie tiles yourself. that would be a lot less work for me. 00:17:12 i'm not insanely excited about zombie elf or spriggan, though probably part of that is the base tiles 00:17:25 I could probably do that, got a decent amount of free time lately 00:17:26 xombie salamander & the mf legs also look very skinny 00:17:43 feel free to ask wwwhealllss or gammafunk for help with compiling on windows 00:17:47 i guess i'm assuming you're on windows 00:17:49 it's easy on linux 00:17:52 yea 00:17:58 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:18:19 spriggan was weird becausse of how grey the base spriggan tile is 00:18:45 and merfolk+faun I tweaked so they weren't 'prancing', which may need touching up for the merfolk 00:19:17 faun is more lurching now. 00:19:25 very zombie. 00:21:10 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:22:25 which monsters should prance 00:23:41 OoF 00:23:48 hard to picture. 00:23:50 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:24:51 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:27:34 -!- home has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:28:50 -!- Gilihad has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:29:44 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-892-g8a19e52 (34) 00:32:01 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:34:02 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-893-gb25b99f: New tile for hweeyermz (10537, IronicDongz) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b25b99f2f616 00:35:49 -!- Pekkekk has quit [] 00:36:53 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 00:36:57 for what now 00:37:18 -!- Cerpin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:37:31 that worm has a big ol' mouth 00:39:52 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:40:05 -!- home has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:43:03 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 00:44:23 -!- Cerpin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:44:42 gammafunk: http://www.paranatural.net/comic/chapter-4-page-11 00:44:51 (panel 8) 00:45:05 You know, hweeyermz. Them little doit snakes what poops from they faces. 00:51:04 -!- yesno has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0.1/20160623154057]] 00:51:30 wow, our highscores code is... 00:51:34 some seriously ancient janky shit 00:55:56 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 00:58:13 -!- Cerpin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:53 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 01:01:28 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 01:09:32 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-893-gb25b99f (34) 01:11:54 %git c44768f54 01:11:54 07|amethyst02 * 0.19-a0-447-gc44768f: Allow bindkey of non-ASCII keys. 10(5 weeks ago, 1 file, 17+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c44768f54cdf 01:12:01 !blame3 amethyst 01:12:01 aaaaameeeeethyyyyyst 01:12:15 rip old worm tile 01:12:35 you could say that it passed away 01:12:36 8) 01:12:38 ignominously 01:14:09 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-894-g2fd3c29: Fix binding ctrl-modified keys (10526) 10(62 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2fd3c291a8ab 01:14:23 -!- meatpath has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:16:41 copy and paste will end the world someday...it's how Skynet will be made... 01:17:02 .probably. 01:17:49 -!- jeefus has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:19:20 <|amethyst> doh 01:19:47 ??dot[amethyst 01:19:47 I don't have a page labeled dot[amethyst in my learndb. 01:19:49 wait... 01:19:53 ??doh[amethyst 01:19:53 |amethyst[1/24]: <|amethyst> doh 01:19:55 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-893-gb25b99f (34) 01:20:02 ??doh[gammafunk 01:20:02 I don't have a page labeled doh[gammafunk in my learndb. 01:20:06 really 01:20:11 ??doh 01:20:11 |amethyst[1/24]: <|amethyst> doh 01:20:26 oh ok it's not like dumb 01:20:27 ??dumb 01:20:28 that's dumb 01:20:34 ??dumb[gammafunk 01:20:34 dumb[5/5]: that's dumb 01:21:38 nice copycat 01:22:44 it's all about the intonation, that's how you bring your unique style 01:23:23 -!- eb has quit [] 01:24:54 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:25:26 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 01:28:40 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:30:04 -!- Cerpin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:33:39 sure, sure... 01:33:49 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:33:52 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-895-gdbd5520: Remove a 11+ yr old hiscores hack 10(39 seconds ago, 5 files, 15+ 15-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dbd552016ce0 01:33:57 admiration... inspiration 01:34:02 coconspiration 01:34:07 incarceration. 01:38:07 -!- Harudoku has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:40:55 I like a defined name of NORETURN 01:41:01 *define 01:41:08 THELIVINGEND 01:42:51 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: NORETURN] 01:49:39 -!- squidcat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:52:34 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:54:05 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 01:56:06 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-895-gdbd5520 01:59:03 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:02:51 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:08:55 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-895-gdbd5520 (34) 02:11:14 -!- marsharpe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:19:29 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:22:23 -!- Cimanyd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:22:51 -!- Celsitudo has quit [Client Quit] 02:24:45 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:29:30 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 02:29:33 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:34:09 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:36:54 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 02:39:07 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:46:14 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:46:43 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:53:46 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-895-gdbd5520 02:54:57 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:55:02 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 02:58:25 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:45 -!- techieAgnostic has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 03:05:29 -!- hellmonk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:07:35 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:09:31 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:17:37 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:17:40 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 03:23:21 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:23:43 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-895-gdbd5520 (34) 03:23:46 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:24:23 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:27:34 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 03:29:48 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:32:16 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 03:36:51 Pakellas' device charge weirdly overcharges wands at Evocation level 0 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10545 by papilio 03:38:03 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:39:57 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:40:30 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 03:44:41 i can't tell if 10545 is the same complaint as "pakellas recharge is more MP-efficient the less max MP you have" or something totally different 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:02:05 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:15:06 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:20:08 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:24:41 -!- Tungsten has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:27:08 -!- Cerpin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:39:39 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 04:53:43 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:54:29 -!- _dhm has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:03:04 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:05:19 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:12:39 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:18:57 -!- Goblin1989 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:21:03 -!- Ge0ff has joined ##crawl-dev 05:41:46 03MarvinPA02 {GitHub} 07* 0.19-a0-896-gc0ce14e: Update status descriptions 10(7 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c0ce14e7599d 05:45:23 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:48:32 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:53:05 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:53:20 Houston, we have a problem. The start page of the Code and Development Wiki (https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=start) is hacked. There are ads in Vietnamese. Looks like you use Mantis for authorisation in that wiki, and your Mantis is very old (1.1.8, released in 2009). 06:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:05:13 they hacked it by... opening an account and using the edit button? 06:06:06 the funny thing is that it's been there for several days 06:07:18 Several days? 2016-07-04 05:24 – baolong001 06:07:52 The change was made today 06:08:08 https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=start&rev=1467254987 06:08:40 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-896-gc0ce14e (34) 06:10:00 well, it looks like a vietnamese sweatshop spambot so I reverted it 06:10:15 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 06:10:29 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 06:12:06 Oh, no! How am I going to buy inventory for "Workshops, open space cafes, restaurants, hotels" now? 06:14:38 These were very useful ads ). But, seriously, your Mantis is 7 years old. There was a ton of security changes since version 1.1.8. Please update it. 06:18:23 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:20:32 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:25:49 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:33:02 -!- grisha5 is now known as grisha5|afk 06:44:01 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:00:55 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 07:07:08 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 07:32:10 -!- Cerpin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:50:01 -!- ZombieCh1cken has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:52:23 -!- grisha5|afk is now known as grisha5 07:56:58 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:57:02 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:58:47 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 07:59:08 -!- wheals__ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:00:04 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00:48 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 08:02:02 -!- wheals_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:09:21 -!- magistern has quit [Client Quit] 08:18:15 -!- techieAgnostic has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 08:21:27 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:27:27 Tab was implemented in 0.11, wasn't it? 08:39:25 -!- Alcopop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:40:29 -!- Smello has quit [Quit: Bye!] 08:41:24 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:41:56 -!- wheals__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:43:32 -!- wheals has quit [Client Quit] 08:43:49 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:44:21 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:56:40 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 09:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:04:33 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:06:38 You never lose +Cast after using channel magic 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10546 by ereinion 09:12:49 -!- doll has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 09:19:10 -!- paulr_ has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 09:19:38 Was Tab a thing in 0.10? I can't make it work neither in console nor in tiles. 09:21:04 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:29:51 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:31:38 -!- Telnaior has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:37:21 -!- ActionComics has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:40:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:41:22 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:43:50 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:48:28 -!- dalwyn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:50:11 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:50:13 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:50:13 -!- wheals_ has quit [Client Quit] 09:50:26 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:52:42 Altar room in Fedhas' Mad Dash is filled with translucent unnaturally hard rock walls 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10547 by qwesdf 09:57:21 -!- Vizer has quit [Client Quit] 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:01:00 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 10:04:29 -!- doll has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:05:08 -!- Leszczynek has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 10:06:26 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 10:18:18 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:22:48 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:23:02 -!- syllogism has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:25:33 congrats greensna1k on becoming a nethack developer! https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/5009a672644fbadab73dbf9ec8181a4c07a9bb3c 10:30:36 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:32:51 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:35:20 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 10:38:47 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:39:28 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:41:18 -!- Laraso_ is now known as Laraso 10:43:02 -!- Ge0ff has left ##crawl-dev 10:43:02 <|amethyst> hm, re 10546, I made a patch to make the +Cast light only appear at low MP... but I'm not sure if that's actually a good idea 10:51:05 New branch created: nfm-cast-light (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/nfm-cast-light 10:51:05 03|amethyst02 07[nfm-cast-light] * 0.19-a0-897-g3957e16: Don't display +Cast when you have enough MP. 10(16 minutes ago, 1 file, 18+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3957e163c2f7 10:52:39 <|amethyst> !tell MarvinPA thoughts on the nfm-cast-light branch? It avoids the "always-on" problem, but on the other hand makes it harder to tell which state your toggle is in 10:52:40 |amethyst: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 10:53:39 <|amethyst> !tell MarvinPA (see also #10546) 10:53:40 |amethyst: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 10:57:11 fr: +Static Cast 10:58:05 The being unable to tell part could be partially handled by having the ability menu show something like "Enable Divine Energy" "Disable Divine Energy" 10:58:15 but we don't really have a precedent for it I guess 10:59:01 er 10:59:14 hrm, largest spell 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:25 it's maybe a bit weird also since the player's largest spell may not be castable at all, but I guess that's not really an issue 11:00:26 -!- Patashu__ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:04:41 -!- |amethys1 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:04:58 "Allow archeologists to choose monkey for starting pet." 11:07:47 -!- Mindiell_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:09:38 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:09:39 -!- |amethyst has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:09:39 -!- orionstein has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:09:39 -!- hdjdjdjdjdjd has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:09:41 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:09:42 -!- sdftnjm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:09:51 -!- culcube has quit [Changing host] 11:09:52 -!- Mindiell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:09:52 -!- phyphor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:11:37 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:15:35 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:19:35 -!- Mindiell_ is now known as Mindiell 11:36:41 -!- |amethys1 is now known as |amethyst 11:36:48 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 11:36:49 The build passed. (nfm-cast-light - 3957e16 #6105 : Neil Moore): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/142229831 11:36:49 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 11:40:22 -!- Mekire has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:40:42 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:40:48 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:41:14 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 11:44:35 !tell marvinpa why did eos get buffed to +12 when getting halo and losing -tele? Seems like a lot of buffs at once. 11:44:35 Lasty: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:44:36 Lasty: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 11:45:14 Lasty: it was a merge of brilliance and eos, and brilliance was removed 11:45:35 I think the base type of EOS is not as good? 11:45:36 ??eos 11:45:37 eos[1/1]: +11 unrandart morningstar, {elec, -Tele rElec SInv} 11:45:41 ??brilliance 11:45:41 brilliance[1/2]: Temporarily increases intelligence and spell power, and provides a wizardry bonus. 11:45:44 ??brilliance[2 11:45:44 eveningstar of brilliance[1/1]: The +1 eveningstar of Brilliance {holy, rN+ AC+5 Int+5}. Free {halo} on equip! 11:49:13 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 249 seconds] 11:50:09 gammafunk: but brilliance wasn't +12 either 11:50:39 "merging" the two should mean averaging the plusses 11:51:11 yeah, I don't think it should necesarilly be an average in this case, but I was speaking of merge solely in the sense that "two became one" 11:51:19 heh 11:51:22 gotcha 11:52:08 Eos was already pretty much the best one-handed mace, so I'm reluctant to improve it 11:52:36 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:53:33 I could see lowering the enchant, but probably it should be better than a +9 elec morningstar 11:53:57 halo is an increase in accuracy but I'm not sure how much of an improvement that is accuracy wise 11:55:14 ??eos 11:55:14 eos[1/1]: +11 unrandart morningstar, {elec, -Tele rElec SInv} 11:56:06 maybe +9 and halo is itself enough, not sure 11:56:45 but my guess is an elec eveningstar at max enchant would be significantly better 11:56:46 How about +10 and halo? Still seems special. 11:56:55 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:57:02 To be fair, elec eve‌ningstar at +9 is a really rare weapon 11:57:17 yep, was just talking about your comment on it being the best 1h mace 11:57:33 but yeah no worries from me whichever way you change it 11:58:07 a +9 vamp eveningstar might be better too... 11:58:13 yeah 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01:44 03Lasty02 07* 0.19-a0-897-g1f98c38: Nerf Eos a little 10(16 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1f98c38c96db 12:05:15 -!- Zxpr2jk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:10:30 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:10:47 -!- MaBunny has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:10:49 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:13:26 03wheals02 07* 0.19-a0-898-ge76d159: Remove an obsolete bit of Lua. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 24-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e76d15905104 12:14:38 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-899-g18cdaca: Fix quick charge acting as ?recharge (10545) 10(74 seconds ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/18cdaca02ce7 12:16:30 wheals: great, more Mu nerfs 12:17:15 i hear some sif hater on the devteam removed musu 12:17:49 I'm tired of mummies winning and winning and winning... 12:22:30 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:22:54 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:23:37 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:35:24 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:38:59 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:39:46 -!- Ryosujin has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:41:20 <|amethyst> oh, should +Cast have an entry in dat/descript/status.txt ? 12:42:46 |amethyst: i'd thought about doing the +cast status light that way with the mp check, not really sure what would be best though 12:43:09 could maybe just have the actual status light itself be conditional on the mp check, not the @ and % bits so you can still see the state if you want to 12:44:40 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-900-g7ddcc7b: Split out Sif's divine energy toggle off (10546) 10(87 seconds ago, 7 files, 30+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7ddcc7b008d9 12:44:45 maybe splitting it into separate enable/disable abilities like gammafunk suggested would be good also 12:44:58 that was quick 12:46:27 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 12:46:28 The build has errored. (master - 1f98c38 #6106 : Corin Buchanan-Howland): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/142247120 12:46:28 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 12:49:02 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-901-g6c9a4b2: Fix Fedhas's Mad Dash (10547) 10(42 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6c9a4b26ea28 12:56:02 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:56:33 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 12:57:51 yeah I was going to actually do that before merging, but I was worried about doing for some reason 12:57:54 which I now forget 12:59:25 |amethyst: I saw MPA or somehow had made a commit about updating status 12:59:44 %git c0ce14e 12:59:44 07MarvinPA02 {GitHub} * 0.19-a0-896-gc0ce14e: Update status descriptions 10(7 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c0ce14e7599d 12:59:59 +cast still needs one i think, yeah 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:04 ah, I see +cast..yeah 13:08:42 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-901-g6c9a4b2 (34) 13:13:45 -!- MaBunny has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:14:49 oh, regexp matches... 13:16:19 03gammafunk02 07* 0.19-a0-902-g45fb870: Give the +Cast status a help description 10(54 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/45fb8700bda5 13:16:39 A problem with that is we do regex matching on all those help lookups, so you have to enter \+Cast 13:19:14 I guess you can enter just "cast" and choose it from the list 13:20:22 <|amethyst> hm 13:20:53 <|amethyst> we could have an evil special case that makes leading + turn into an exact match because that's not a valid regexp 13:21:07 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:22:13 frank2368 (L2 OpEE) (D:1) 13:22:40 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:22:45 |amethyst: or perhaps just looking for an exact string match before trying a pattern match? 13:23:01 that's maybe ugly in a different way, but most of the ugliness is code 13:23:16 I guess an exact string match really isn't much code-wise 13:23:40 it just threw me a bit when trying to actually look up the status 13:28:12 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-901-g6c9a4b2 (34) 13:28:23 heh, i hadn't been following the logs 13:28:35 funny that we arrived at the same place wrt divine energy, independently 13:31:28 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 13:35:37 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:41:18 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 13:41:59 -!- jefus- has joined ##crawl-dev 13:45:47 -!- jeefus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:49:26 !crashlog frank2368 13:49:28 3. frank2368, XL2 OpEE, T:986 (milestone): https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/frank2368/crash-frank2368-20160704-172213.txt 13:50:01 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:52:26 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 13:59:28 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:06:19 -!- Suga_H has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:07:13 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:08:43 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-902-g45fb870 (34) 14:14:03 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 14:20:03 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:21:21 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 14:22:56 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: Probably restarting if not leaving] 14:23:29 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:24:36 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:25:54 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:28:10 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:32:18 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:37:17 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:38:55 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:39:07 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:41:39 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:46:37 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:48:33 Shafting does not update overview screen 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10548 by Sandman25 14:50:22 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 14:51:45 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:52:57 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:56:52 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:57:37 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]] 15:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:05:48 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:11:52 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:12:34 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 15:12:42 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:14:32 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-903-g4dc29a1: Don't give sickness a chance to cause stat drain 10(19 minutes ago, 3 files, 9+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4dc29a1b7f18 15:14:32 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-904-ga29959e: Remove a special case for Sif piety gain 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a29959ea6fa4 15:17:44 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 15:27:21 oh weird, was that taper not even done through the amount of piety granted? 15:28:07 oh I see, that's how all piety point gains happen 15:30:32 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 15:30:33 The build passed. 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18:13:50 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:14:59 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 18:15:17 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-a0-904-ga29959e (34) 18:16:34 -!- wheals__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:18:03 -!- wheals_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:26:04 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:30:01 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:30:07 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:33:19 FR: change ?acquirement to the "crawl light version" so people stop asking me for the flowchart 18:35:52 gammafunk: i'm not very chill, no :( 18:36:33 I meant to ask elliptic what he thought of crawl light acquirement 18:37:55 and Lasty as well 18:38:06 gammafunk: it would be a ridiculously huge buff to the scroll 18:38:38 yeah it would be a pretty strong buff, I suppose that could make adjusting the rarity of not great 18:38:41 *of it 18:38:47 like we'd have to make the scroll 2.5 times rarer or something if that was all that we were changing 18:38:50 since it's already so rare 18:38:52 I think 18:39:30 (alternatively could change acq code to make it produce items of lower quality) 18:40:11 yeah that's true; I'm fairly attached to the reliability of things like weapon acquire and things like wand acquire with good average results 18:40:19 even book acquire is fun (for me, sometimes) 18:40:59 the only real advantage of acquirement menu I see is making acq less spoily 18:41:03 yes 18:41:14 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:41:20 and it's a really nice advantage, but maybe not worth all the hassle 18:42:00 which is something, but I'm not sure it is worth the cost of making the scroll much rarer... maybe it would be okay if someone wanted to rewrite/rebalance all the acq code to make it reasonable at the current acq rarity 18:42:24 different idea: generate 3 random acq grade items and offer the player a choice 18:42:41 (always offer fedhas worshippers a stack of fruits, never offer troggies things they can't use &c.) 18:42:57 ebering: that sounds okay except I wouldn't special-case any item categories like that 18:43:10 acq already doesn't offer things that people can't use, or at least it isn't supposed to do that 18:43:23 yeah but fedhas nerf 18:44:02 that's the only special case that seems somewhat important to keep imo 18:44:33 I've played very few serious fedhas games because fedhas, but I doubt that fruit acq is *that* important 18:45:21 it evens out the fruit curve. fedhas when you get 3 fruit vaults is way stronger than fedhas with no fruit vaults without fruit acq 18:45:38 anyway it is certainly true that only offering a few options and not always offering the item categories you want most would make getting to choose less overpowered 18:46:06 ebering: it isn't like every game has acq scrolls 18:46:25 elliptic: hrm, would it be bad if player skills had some influence on the categories offered? 18:46:28 and I imagine wand acq is still better a lot of the time 18:46:31 gammafunk: IMO yes 18:46:44 gammafunk: since that sounds very spoily and I thought the whole point was to make acq less spoily 18:46:45 sure, but the point is that acq+vault variance puts a higher expected lower bound on the amount of fruit you find 18:46:46 elliptic: making it not spoilery is the sole objective 18:46:49 right, yeah 18:47:10 it's not meant to accomplish anything else (and wasn't it agreed that it should only offer items from 2-4 random categories each time?) 18:47:57 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 18:48:07 anyway I sort of like the idea of offering options from 3ish random categories but I think they should actually be random categories 18:49:20 my comments about balance above were for the "offer one option from each category" idea since that's how I thought crawl light did it 18:49:36 yeah, that's how crawl light does it 18:51:04 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:57:45 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:36 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:09:15 -!- fufumann has quit [Quit: und weg...] 19:10:05 Throwing a poisoned missile while worshipping TSO can lead to penance with no warning. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10549 by elliptic 19:10:17 (qw would appreciate a fix for this bug) 19:17:06 -!- hdjdjdjdjdjd has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:24:21 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 19:24:34 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 19:25:07 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 19:32:36 -!- PhazeDK has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:35:55 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:36:22 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:38:54 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:39:06 -!- dalwyn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:41:00 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:44:38 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:46:23 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:53:48 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 19:57:21 -!- Yermak has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:57:21 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:57:21 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:57:21 -!- koboldina has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:57:21 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:57:21 -!- hellmonk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:57:21 -!- squidcat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:03:31 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 20:03:32 -!- Lightli has quit [Changing host] 20:03:32 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 20:03:32 -!- hellmonk has quit [Changing host] 20:03:32 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:03:45 -!- Yermak has joined ##crawl-dev 20:04:24 Where could one download 0.17 version? Thanks in advance 20:07:45 yermak: http://crawl.develz.org/release/ 20:10:25 thank you 20:29:40 !tell Lasty Stomp doesn't seem to have an animation anymore. is that on purpose? 20:29:40 amalloy: OK, I'll let lasty know. 20:38:44 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:47:08 -!- MaBunny has quit [Quit: Bye guys hav a good time :)] 20:49:51 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 20:51:23 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:54:05 -!- NeremWorld has quit [] 20:58:30 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:08:33 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:11:46 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:16:49 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 21:26:27 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:40:00 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:41:54 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 21:42:04 !tell chequers I got your sunken temple. I'm going to poop in it. 21:42:05 gammafunk: OK, I'll let chequers know. 21:49:34 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:51:27 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 21:57:08 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:57:23 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 21:58:29 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 21:59:24 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 22:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:04:36 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:07:35 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:09:09 gammafunk remember that guy from like the year 0 who pooped in a temple 22:09:58 amalloy: I don't think stomp's animation was intended to go away 22:10:26 gammafunk: I feel pretty much the same as elliptic re: acquirement. I like the de-spoilering, but think it's a big power change. 22:11:10 Lasty: what about the 3 random category choice tweak? 22:11:18 minmay: he didn't really poop in the temple though 22:13:33 i choose to read that as a new motto or subtitle or something. "Minmay: He didn't really poop in the temple" 22:15:40 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:15:45 read ?acq, get choice of ammo/food/staff 22:15:52 hell yeah 22:16:20 gammafunk: choose 3 seems good in principle, but what PF said 22:16:25 honestly who would be sad if you removed food acq 22:16:31 and ammo acq 22:16:32 amalloy: fedhas worshippers 22:16:43 so give them fruit, but don't give everyone else food 22:16:51 i'm pretty tempted to remove ammo acq now. 22:17:00 PleasingFungus: I'd be fine w/ that 22:17:04 fed was brought up as an important special case, but I agree with e that it's not a very important one, and yeah ammo... 22:17:17 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: Reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold, BYE] 22:17:19 to be fair, we could offer 4 or 5 instead 22:17:26 I won't argue to the death that it's the best of all possible worlds (wrt acquire) but it would be a cool fix in at least some ways 22:17:29 yeah 22:17:34 i'm not really a fan of the idea 22:17:41 but it seems potentially non-awful 22:17:48 new/light-acq 22:17:50 offer dlc for paid subscribers, extra acquire slots 22:18:09 nah dawg this acquire rolls heavy for real 22:18:32 it's a loss of some present acquire coolness, like reliably getting weapon (maybe the biggest thing in my mind, tbh) 22:19:01 Searches related to guy from ancient history that pooped in temple 22:19:05 archimedes 22:19:08 but also just other situations when you know (in a spoilery way) that acquire of X is likely to deliver the goods 22:19:19 i like the game of figuring out what category is most useful for you right now. it's 'spoilery', but is it more spoilery than e.g. item gen code generally? idk 22:19:42 PleasingFungus: yes, because the player doesn't get to choose a category for items on the floor 22:19:48 possibly crawl lite acq game would also be fun 22:19:49 PleasingFungus: yes, because new players acquire junk 22:19:50 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 22:20:28 did you see the guy on reddit the other day who acquired |wiz twice in a row, because the wiki still says acq staff give you rods? 22:20:29 PleasingFungus: and it's not a decision you can really make successfully without spoilers (and with spoilers it is almost always a no-brainer IME) 22:20:43 amalloy: you can't complain about things being "spoilery" and point to people using the wiki as an example 22:21:05 sure, that's obviously not an unspoiled-player mistake 22:21:29 minmay: disagree wrt no-brainer but it's fair that you really don't have enough trials to figure out how acq works without spoilers 22:21:33 even to get a good feel for it 22:21:35 so idk. 22:22:07 -!- gressup has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:23:37 -!- wheals_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:30:36 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-905-ge5e6a15: Remove ammo ?acquirement 10(75 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e5e6a1578ab3 22:35:21 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 22:39:11 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:39:34 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]] 22:46:56 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 22:49:57 -!- emikaela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:52:48 -!- squidcat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:59:24 -!- _dhm has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:59:42 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:04:41 !tell PleasingFungus not that I object to removing ammo acq, but I don't see why it is a problem if players occasionally get unlucky and acq offers them three weak categories/items - bad luck is a thing that is allowed to happen to crawl players 23:04:42 elliptic: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 23:06:04 -!- home has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:06:21 I think it's more that acquiring a bunch of unbranded bolts/arrows/bullets is pretty unexciting 23:08:13 sure, as I said I don't object to removing ammo acq (and I would be fine seeing food acq go too, it is really boring too), I just don't think this has much to do with the proposed ?acq change 23:08:41 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-905-ge5e6a15 (34) 23:09:13 my favourite acquirement fact is that you cannot acquire a whip 23:09:43 weapon acq will happily give you short swords but not whips 23:10:18 I think you can't acquire a club either? 23:10:24 sgrunt spotted commentating on four sword adventures at sgdq... 23:10:26 club, blowgun, whip, or scythe 23:12:49 -!- andre is now known as Guest27803 23:16:45 -!- minqmay has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:17:49 -!- Evablue has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:19:05 -!- minmay has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:20:10 -!- Guest27803 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:21:29 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:21:29 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:21:33 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:21:56 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest69058 23:24:14 well, when you develop crawl you sort of become an expert on multiple swords 23:26:27 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:30:47 -!- Guest69058 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:30:57 -!- hellmonk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:31:00 -!- wheals has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:36:33 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:40:34 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:43:15 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:44:32 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:45:15 elliptic: food/ammo/staff isn't any worse than any of the current very bad outcomes you can currently get from acq, yeah. it was more of a... funny thought than a real criticism, i guess 23:46:11 okay, I wasn't sure 23:46:49 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:48:00 i don't think i was sure either. like i said, i do enjoy current acq, for all its warts 23:48:07 but it doesn't stand up as a serious criticism 23:48:47 !vault nicolae_vaults_meeting 23:48:48 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/vaults_rooms_hard.des#l920 23:48:59 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:50:17 trying to figure out how that is an 'autoexplore trap' 23:50:57 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 23:51:18 ahh, i see 23:53:10 is that three-tile entrance really unambiguous/recognizable, though? two three-wide tiles plus a three-wide door... 23:53:23 if not, it'd just be a trap, not an autoexplore trap 23:54:21 PleasingFungus: it doesn't have to be unambiguously this vault, right? it's unambiguously something dangerous 23:54:27 is it? 23:54:57 it's clearly a vault, yes. three-wide doors don't generate randomy 23:55:05 and vaults are generally dangerous 23:55:30 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 23:55:53 vaults is sort of full of vaults, though 23:55:55 that's a vault vaults 23:55:59 er, vaults vault* 23:57:23 i wonder if it'd work better without those inner doors 23:57:29 the three-tile door 23:59:23 -!- flappity has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:59:35 hrm, looks like there are very few other three-tile wide corridors in v:1-4 vaults; they seem to mostly be 2 wide