00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:04:22 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:05:03 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 00:10:07 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:11:46 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:13:04 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:19:49 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:29:59 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-811-gf4045fb (34) 00:31:31 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:34:04 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:36:26 -!- eb has quit [] 00:36:34 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:41:31 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:45:05 fun lab gif: http://i.imgur.com/xNBwmfb.gif 00:47:05 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:49:28 aww 00:49:43 i was hoping you meant "the fun laboratory" 00:49:58 as opposed to a "fun" gif of a labyrinth 00:51:34 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:02:32 ProzacElf: here's a gif of a fun labyrinth http://i.imgur.com/HjJIqrP.gif 01:03:17 ah yes 01:03:18 the image does not exist 01:03:30 clearly, a philosophical conundrum 01:03:43 is it truly a labyrinth if it only exists in my mind? 01:04:35 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 01:06:09 ceci n'est pas une tedium 01:07:08 you're a pipe 01:07:12 ! 01:07:54 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:09:15 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 01:12:51 -!- home has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:17:48 -!- demok has quit [Client Quit] 01:22:38 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:23:01 Slime Progress is, yet again, almost a good clan name 01:26:08 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:28:53 good enough for Canada, not good enough the 'Murica 01:29:05 s/the/for the/ 01:38:47 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-812-g33f3bc8: A comment on brands (elliptic) 10(31 seconds ago, 1 file, 37+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/33f3bc883f30 01:42:43 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 01:42:49 http://puu.sh/pIGZC/2e35603285.png 01:42:54 more slime progress :toot: 01:43:20 -!- Nasst has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:47:18 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Client Quit] 01:48:00 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:53:14 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:54:15 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:54:15 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:34 great, canofworms is promulgating slime porn now 02:03:37 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 02:06:00 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:09:05 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-812-g33f3bc8 (34) 02:10:17 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:14:02 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 02:16:42 !tell wheals https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewforum.php?f=17 02:16:43 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let wheals know. 02:16:45 er 02:17:03 !tell wheals https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=20509 ignore prev linkl 02:17:03 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let wheals know. 02:17:39 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:17:45 how is that happening? 02:18:08 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 02:18:11 if no monsters/danger is in sight, is it just spurious interuption without any reason? 02:18:41 i am betting you it's some kind of message interrupt 02:18:47 possibly 'you continue eating' is interrupting eating 02:20:09 solution: remove food 02:20:40 remove.....players...leave only food 02:21:13 you start crawl, it's a 2x1 box with a bread ration, and you die instantly 02:21:22 gammafunk: in my experience, the "danger" is, your rc tells you to eat, but while you're eating you go from satiated to 'hungry' and that interrupts 02:21:45 who dies if there's no player? 02:21:56 the player dies, instantly 02:22:01 they're alive for less than 1 aut 02:22:09 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:22:22 what? 02:22:38 you believe life begins at conception too? 02:22:54 I don't believe that players are conceived 02:23:07 they're an emergant property of scum 02:23:23 well, so are people, but we let them stick around for some reason 02:23:43 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 02:24:04 this new version of crawl would fix that bug 02:24:06 oh great, siegurt is here and now i have to act like i have reasonable ideas 02:24:34 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:24:39 message interrupts are super fucking coarse and it's really hard to keeping them from causing trouble 02:24:43 Well, no you can act like you have unreasonable ideas, as long as you are reasonable about it :) 02:24:59 frankly, if crawl just kicked me back to the character selection screen like 10 times in a row, i'd at least just forget about it 02:25:02 eventually 02:25:05 did you guys see riposte 02:25:14 youse guyses 02:25:36 PF: does it happen before or after i tell the game i still want to eat? 02:25:42 =p 02:25:46 but no, i have not 02:26:00 %git c2d7a382fcf87d19c8c6dbb39bd45a203ce4a2f0 02:26:00 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-810-gc2d7a38: Long blade ability: Riposte 10(11 hours ago, 3 files, 51+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c2d7a382fcf8 02:26:09 ah sweet 02:26:17 the best weapons got better? 02:26:23 lol 02:26:28 %git 077ccc12f73ff6a55c351f130ed8ee01238d92a4 02:26:28 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-811-g077ccc1: Adjust long blade damage for riposte (elliptic) 10(7 hours ago, 1 file, 14+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/077ccc12f73f 02:26:34 this is on a branch right now 02:26:38 lol 02:26:40 i might merge it soon if no one tells me it's a bad idea 02:27:19 i think i am just about the only person who thinks lblades are the best weapons 02:27:42 because you get your minmays and your crates who get all autistic about it and want to fsim everything 02:27:58 or people who want to tell you that cleave and reaching make up for it 02:28:07 or that maces don't cut hydra heads 02:28:13 I do think the niche they currently fill (high damage, rarer than maces) isn't a bad one. 02:28:19 but i'm here to hold up the honor of lblades 02:28:23 But it's not terribly interesting. 02:28:55 it's also not really a niche they hold 02:28:59 it's more of a meme 02:29:31 Well, it's true that triple swords are rarer than great maces, but that's about the extent of it's "true" ness 02:29:36 yeah 02:29:38 * geekosaur considers grumping about "get all autistic about it" 02:29:39 yeah, i've never once had a game where i was using lblades that i couldn't find a dblade or 2sword 02:29:50 I have. 02:30:02 But great swords don't suck 02:30:09 geekosaur: i'll apologize if you're actually on the spectrum 02:30:12 geekosaur: that is a generous and good thing to grump about, but i can't find it in me to really care 02:30:24 not just on it but fairly far out on it 02:30:25 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:30:30 hrm, man, that came out the wrong way 02:30:32 sorry :( 02:30:33 ok, i'm sorry 02:30:46 that was an unfair way to put it 02:31:26 -!- destrovel has quit [Client Quit] 02:32:06 PF: I think the numbers would be close to right if the chance of it activating were about 1:3 or 1:4 and long blades got a similar -2 base damage that polearms and axes got when they got their 'special' ability. 02:32:09 i have an autistic nephew who is so far on the spectrum that his parents actually need to figure out who is going to take care of him soon 02:32:33 ...otoh Im one of the rare ones who didn't get cognitive issues along for the ride 02:32:59 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:33:36 Siegurt: they already have the -damage; 1/3 might be reasonable but i think 1/2 is a reasonable place to start 02:33:38 and we can nerf as necessary 02:33:40 anyway, my point was that it's not that hard to get your weapon of choice 02:33:58 unless you just get screwed on acquirement 02:34:01 Yea, probably reasonable, actually now that I think about it more (since it requires a miss) 02:34:11 or you're dumb enough to actually take wands on acquirement 02:34:27 i mean, i love polymorph and iceblast as much as the next guy 02:34:54 Bah, I've had a game where I got neither ?acquire nor boots by the time I won the game.... 02:34:54 but i could also get a double sword, or broad axe, or quickblade 02:35:00 instead of wasting my time on a wand 02:35:01 RNG is RNG :) 02:35:27 lol 02:35:29 true 02:35:31 in this episode, prozacelf acquires a +3 hand crossbow of flame 02:35:40 dumb enough...to take wands.... 02:35:43 better than a wand acquirement 02:35:52 has ProzacElf actually played crawl 02:36:01 or has he just read tavern a lot 02:36:12 xom is better at giving good wands than acquirement scrolls are 02:36:18 ...or ##crawl for that matter 02:36:22 well...here's the thing 02:36:23 no he isn't 02:36:23 lol 02:36:41 ok, ok 02:36:45 i'm exaggerating 02:36:48 and I can't understand why you would think that if you'd ever actually acquired wand 02:37:09 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:37:16 i acquire wand about half the time 02:37:39 because i can't justify any other acquirement 02:37:59 I'm pretty sure it's confirmation bias. My experience is that wand acquirement is about as suckful as all the other varieties, but with a smaller pool it's actually slightly more likely to be useful than, say, armour acq 02:37:59 and about 2/3 of the times i do, i get some bullshit 02:38:14 weapon is the only good acquirement 02:38:25 wand acquirement is often not the best first acquirement 02:38:30 sometimes not even the best second 02:38:37 but it's often a good acquirement in a game a crawl 02:38:44 if that's the game we're actualy talking about 02:38:45 look, i know acquirement is garbage anyway 02:38:48 most of the time 02:39:05 but i just think that people saying wand is always the thing to do are lying 02:39:33 honestly I think you're just making a bunch of stuff up to be punchy more than anything 02:39:36 -!- Demise_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:39:47 I get a lot of good acquirements from wand, which is why I take it (when it's appropriate) 02:40:08 same reason why I do a lot of weapon and armour acquirements 02:40:17 hello 02:40:21 does anyone want in for the trunk thingo 02:40:28 ok, there's a little hyperbole here 02:40:45 but i seriously rank wand about 4th 02:40:59 in terms of what i get 02:41:22 weapon, armor, armor again, wand if i don't have *any* of the good wands 02:41:50 or if i really need a second /tele 02:42:40 I like acquiring armor too, but it would probably be better (increase my chances of winning) to acquire wand more often than I do (and I do choose wands quite often these days) 02:42:48 granted, i probably have a little recency bias here 02:43:05 wand is often a 3rd or 4th acquirement, not too infrequently a second, which means wand is a pretty good acquire 02:43:06 Hmm, actually I guess wand acquirement might be a little worse now that wands of cold and fire don't exist 02:43:25 because the last several times i did wand acquirement, it didn't only give me a crap wand, but it was also one i already had at least one of 02:43:30 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:43:39 But if I have identified most of the common wands, it's a really strong choice 02:44:30 that will change if /haste and/or /hw go away but in current crawl it's a pretty good choice. It's not really different from doing armour acquire and getting some useless piece of armour. I don't think people recommending wand acquire would rank it above weapon acquire for chars that need a weapon upgrade, for example 02:45:06 Right, I would acquire weapon if I don't have a good one 02:45:14 it's not an acquirement that's good no matter what, but if it where, we'd damn sure remove that 02:45:16 everyone recommends that 02:46:00 recommends what, wand acquire over upgrading a weapon? 02:46:01 i'm not even saying that anything should change 02:46:19 huh, no, "acquire a weapon if you don't have a good one" 02:46:51 well you said "the people that always recommend wand acquire" 02:47:11 oh, you're calling back to that 02:47:29 even they don't recommend wand over weapon 02:47:31 usually 02:47:54 but i just think that armor is always a better choice 02:48:04 almost always 02:48:22 anyway, i'm not arguing for a change here 02:48:34 i just think that wand acquirement is bogus 02:48:47 yeah it's not almost always; it's based on what your armour situation is and what your wand situation 02:48:51 is 02:49:42 http://i.imgur.com/dl7aXwH.png 02:49:55 You kill like 80% of your xl17 chars, so you probably play a different style of crawl 02:49:59 compared to people who just want to win 02:50:07 lol 02:50:11 most of the time the advice given is centered on winning 02:50:17 stop linking that image, it's out of date 02:50:31 Heheh 02:50:31 acq choice still isn't interesting though 02:50:31 wow 02:50:34 Sorry, is there an up to date one? 02:50:44 no 02:50:50 -!- sage1234 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:50:54 But it's so awesome :) 02:51:03 also wand acquirement is good no matter what 02:51:46 I should have said "the right choice no matter what" 02:52:13 really dcss should just use the crawl light approach since an unspoiled player would need to perform a very large number of trials to get enough information about the different acquirements to actually make an informed decision about them 02:52:33 and that informed decision is an extremely easy one IME 02:52:48 what's the crawl light approach? 02:53:07 all acquirements are performed, you are shown the results and pick one 02:53:15 heh 02:53:29 kind of cool 02:53:38 I agree, would like to see this 02:53:47 we'd probably want to adjust how good each result is 02:53:49 it does make the decision even more of a no-brainer but...it basically already is 02:53:52 but yeah that could be fun 02:54:00 bit of a UI nightmare 02:54:17 and I don't see a way to keep unknown item acquirement choice without it requiring massive spoilers 02:54:25 We already have Gozag's potion petition, it's gonna be similar. 02:55:00 I say "the crawl light approach" because it literally is in crawl light, to be clear 02:55:38 it's many lines, but if Op can deal with that every time they want to put on a ring, I think other characters can deal with it every time they use a scroll of acquirement 02:56:13 also, now you have "improve the UI" as an excuse to remove food/ammo acquirement, if you wanted to do that (I forget who wanted to do that (other than me)) 02:57:33 Yermak: similar, but there's going to be a lot more things to list 02:58:20 I think I saw this suggestion somewhere: player gets to choose only from 3 random categories. 02:58:23 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:58:34 I think it's better than all at once. 02:58:46 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest32492 02:59:09 not sure I like the 3 random categories thing much 02:59:14 that's a little too random for me 02:59:36 Yeah, most of the categories are mostly not useful except in rare circumstances. 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:16 it could be more than 3 03:00:35 otherwise it would be just wand of heal wounds most of times 03:01:01 hrm, now that most ammo has ego removed...well I guess if you want ammo you want ammo 03:01:26 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:01:29 incidentally..... 03:01:31 Well, there's only 9 categories, it's not like you read acquirement that often... 03:01:40 the off-brand ammo store seems a little weird now 03:01:47 I think a menu of 9 choices isn't awful. 03:01:52 because it's like half large rocks 03:02:11 I wonder how you can show things like artefacts 03:02:26 just have a key that opens up the item desc 03:02:32 which you'd probably need for most items anyhow 03:02:51 I'd assume it'd be fairly shop-like, as an interface 03:03:06 maybe a shop-like menu would be the way really 03:03:13 wheals might have good ideas about that 03:03:42 but I also don't know what others think; maybe we'd need to lessen the quality of acquirement results to some degree, perhaps not (or not much) 03:04:29 -!- techieAgnostic has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 03:04:29 =p 03:04:31 I guess one of the biggest changes is when you do something like acquire wand and get a junk wand, in this system you'll never end up with junk 03:04:32 If anything I'd rather they just be made slightly rarer, if it's percieved that free choice was too powerful. 03:04:45 perhaps, yeah 03:05:10 do people even acquire ammo that often? 03:05:17 is there a way to track that/ 03:05:18 ? 03:05:31 But if the choices are: junk wand, junk weapon, some armour you don't want to use, you just pick like gold or something, which doesn't seem like an overpowered result. 03:07:03 !tell wheals http://i.imgur.com/bzFolCH.png 03:07:03 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let wheals know. 03:07:26 that level layout is so sick 03:07:42 whoa 03:07:47 that is the truth 03:08:12 I selected 'no' 03:08:23 if you say n, do you end up on the previous floor with magic psychic understanding of the next 03:08:24 how could you? you were too spooked 03:08:31 chequers: sadly no 03:08:42 also, that's the same thing that happens when you force_more portal timer messages 03:09:00 portal announce messages*, I guess 03:09:44 !always be eating 03:09:44 ABE! A-Always! B-Be! E-Eating! Always Be Eating! ALWAYS BE EATING! 03:09:55 anyway i died so it doesn't matter 03:10:34 -!- minmay has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:10:35 ps nerf, uh, orcs? 03:10:38 yes. 03:11:34 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:11:41 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:12:36 nerf orcs by changed PleasingFungus' password, then he'll not die to them 03:12:40 *changing 03:13:01 actually nerf.. 03:13:03 !lg . gfspeed 03:13:08 3086. gammafunk the Chopper (L5 MiGl of Uskayaw), mangled by an ogre (a +0 giant club) on D:4 on 2016-06-28 03:10:05, with 223 points after 964 turns and 0:04:36. 03:13:33 yeah ogres can't be tanked even with usk unless you have some piety 03:13:53 not in chain with the starting war axe, at least 03:14:21 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:16:45 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 03:23:40 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-812-g33f3bc8 (34) 03:23:43 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:28:58 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:30:37 -!- DaneiTHREEPOINTF has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:48:47 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]] 03:49:17 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 03:49:54 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:54:09 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:54:14 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:56:16 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:05:49 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:06:35 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:23:05 -!- grisha5 is now known as grisha5|AFK 04:27:45 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:31:05 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:32:16 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:32:25 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:37:13 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:38:31 -!- insecticide2 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:38:51 -!- grisha5|AFK is now known as grisha5 04:39:45 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:51:23 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 05:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:04:49 -!- Jafet has joined ##crawl-dev 05:19:01 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 05:21:12 -!- jeefus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:21:39 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:26:22 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:30:56 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:31:18 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 05:51:04 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:53:54 Yermak (L23 FeHe) ERROR in 'libutil.cc' at line 668: screen write out of bounds: (1,0) into (80,24) (Depths:5) 05:55:23 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 05:57:35 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:10:42 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 06:10:59 -!- Guest32492 is now known as debo 06:16:03 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:20:14 -!- MaBunny has quit [Quit: Bye guys hav a good time :)] 06:39:11 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:39:47 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:48:26 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:57:39 -!- MaBunny is now known as ByteStorm 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:00:15 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:00:38 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest13196 07:04:39 -!- Guest13196 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:05:00 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 07:08:16 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:08:50 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:10:37 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:14:53 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:20:05 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:39:32 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:50:04 -!- Krakhan|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:01:57 -!- Guest15745 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:11:56 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 08:14:17 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:15:57 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 08:27:02 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:35:03 -!- ByteStorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:35:20 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:40:15 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 08:45:32 -!- ByteStorm has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 08:50:11 -!- ByteStorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:51:55 !tell elliptic Regarding the proposed weapon nerfs for riposte, wouldn't this make great swords worse than double swords in literally every single way (same base damage, more skill investment for mindelay, more of an accuracy penalty, 2handed vs 1handed)? 08:51:56 Lightli: OK, I'll let elliptic know. 09:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:05:45 -!- Mekire has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:06:57 -!- MaBunny has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:08:49 -!- MaBunny has quit [Client Quit] 09:09:30 -!- MaBunny has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 09:11:11 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:12:31 -!- MaBunny has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 09:14:25 -!- MaBunny has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 09:16:48 -!- MaBunny has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 09:22:04 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:40:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:46:56 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:56:54 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:58:01 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:58:15 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00:45 -!- us17 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:01:31 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:02:43 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:04:48 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:09:29 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:12:30 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:21:56 -!- Guest15745 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:32:25 -!- Guest15745 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:32:55 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:33:35 -!- demok has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:34:03 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:35:19 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:39:03 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:08:48 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:13:37 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:18:51 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:28:32 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:38:40 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:45:30 -!- doll has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:55:27 -!- Demise_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:59:19 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:59:59 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:03:19 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:06:28 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:16:52 -!- johlstei has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:21:11 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 12:21:24 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 12:22:07 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:23:05 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 12:23:51 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:27:24 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:30 !crashlog yermak 12:27:32 11. Yermak, XL23 FeHe, T:72457 (milestone): http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/Yermak/crash-Yermak-20160628-095342.txt 12:30:27 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:33:14 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:35:50 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:38:27 mysterious 12:38:28 wheals: You have 4 messages. Use !messages to read them. 12:38:34 :O 12:38:36 !messages 12:38:36 (1/4) koboldina said (18h 56m 1s ago): your shirt is on the way, you should have a tracking number in your inbox now. enjoy! 12:38:38 !messages 12:38:39 (1/3) PleasingFungus said (10h 21m 57s ago): https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewforum.php?f=17 12:38:40 !messages 12:38:41 (1/2) PleasingFungus said (10h 21m 38s ago): https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=20509 ignore prev linkl 12:38:42 !messages 12:38:42 (1/1) PleasingFungus said (9h 31m 40s ago): http://i.imgur.com/bzFolCH.png 12:38:56 the first two messages are more fun than the latter two 12:39:50 unlikely that poster was on the fixed build 12:42:06 !lm . x=cv 12:42:08 6786. [2016-06-28 07:45:35] [cv=0.19-a] pleasingfungus the Zephyrmancer (L10 HEAE of Hepliaklqana) fell down a shaft to D:12 on turn 7427. (D:9) 12:42:09 er 12:42:12 !lm . x=vlong 12:42:13 6786. [2016-06-28 07:45:35] [vlong=0.19-a0-812-g33f3bc8] pleasingfungus the Zephyrmancer (L10 HEAE of Hepliaklqana) fell down a shaft to D:12 on turn 7427. (D:9) 12:42:17 %git 12:42:17 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-812-g33f3bc8: A comment on brands (elliptic) 10(11 hours ago, 1 file, 37+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/33f3bc883f30 12:56:49 wheals: it seems very odd that you can now? eat while doing other things 12:56:57 i just ate some chunks while putting on armour 12:57:02 how? 12:57:03 that screenshot was me eating chunks while going down stairs 12:57:05 automatically 12:57:08 oh 12:57:13 i see.... 12:57:29 http://pastebin.com/BS5sVrG2 12:58:02 you get hungry, you just gotta snack! 12:58:18 some things are *important*, dammit 12:58:52 -!- Telnaior has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:59:46 my feeling is that it's a bug. 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:02 impossible, i fixed all the bugs!!! 13:00:30 o 13:02:39 this has been a lot of bugs involving autoeat 13:04:23 * wheals squashes the bugs like a bug!!!!! 13:04:29 03wheals02 07* 0.19-a0-813-gb3fda0d: Don't allow autoeating during non-travel/rest delays (PleasingFungus). 10(31 seconds ago, 2 files, 14+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b3fda0d6291e 13:04:40 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:04:51 -!- olscumpy has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:09:30 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-812-g33f3bc8 (34) 13:11:59 -!- Reverie has joined ##crawl-dev 13:12:05 -!- Reverie has left ##crawl-dev 13:13:14 elliptic: delay code + new features... 13:13:48 yeah, it isn't surprising 13:14:17 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:14:29 autoeat has always been a bit problematic anyway 13:19:54 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:20:28 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:24:01 huh 13:24:15 wheals: i just autoate while autoexploring 13:24:20 like, while still moving 13:24:20 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:24:49 would your last commit fix that? 13:25:01 http://pastebin.com/auc0sUL2 13:25:01 probably not 13:25:53 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-814-g7a00c6c: Update the Hep 5* message 10(45 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7a00c6ccf879 13:25:58 cool 13:27:42 lmao 13:27:47 then i started eating a chunk while eating a chunk 13:27:54 probably your commit would fix that 13:28:12 ??rebuild 13:28:12 rebuild[1/2]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/rebuild/ Bug |amethyst or Nap.Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 13:28:43 oh right i don't have dev privileges on cjr for some reason 13:32:50 i can't reproduce it though 13:33:02 cjr will rebuild within 15 minutes anyway 13:33:17 pleasingfungus: zib says if you email him about it / a list of names hell add you/them 13:34:39 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:35:07 i get hungry, trap myself in an explored room next to closed door, and then press 'o' -- i first eat the whole thing, then open the door 13:36:41 fwiw, i got hungry while already autoexploring 13:37:03 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:39:36 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:42:13 -!- Jessika has quit [Client Quit] 13:47:48 i set that up, and i still can't reproduce it 13:47:54 deng 13:47:59 rip 13:48:19 started autoexploring, opened door, got hungry, then moved into the door which stopped my autoexplore 13:48:29 since there was a new item visible from there 13:48:40 so clearly i wasn't moving while eating 13:48:47 and yet 13:54:17 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:56:55 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:58:00 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:19 -!- cmcbot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:08:47 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-814-g7a00c6c (34) 14:10:15 -!- Leszczynek has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 14:12:22 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:12:37 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:16:04 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:21:29 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:24:59 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:27:03 wheals: cjr rebuilds every hour, not every 15 mins; you're thinking of cpo 14:27:10 ah 14:28:16 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 14:31:59 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:33:00 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:33:14 -!- KuKumber has quit [Client Quit] 14:37:54 oh, right 14:38:10 wheals: did you fix eating being interrupted by becoming hungry? i forget 14:38:18 yesterday 14:38:44 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/24cba5a6556a0fe7be425a1c9d056f617a8e0581 14:38:50 cool 14:38:52 only happened with autoeat afaik 14:39:04 if it happened otherwise, i probably haven't fixed it 14:39:18 but i can't imagine how that could be 14:39:23 really? 14:39:35 what if you go from hungry to very hungry while manually eating 14:40:06 i don't see any code that would make it different from going from hungry to very hungry while putting on armour 14:40:13 but i may have missed something 14:40:17 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:40:34 fair point 14:43:04 -!- Telnaior has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:45:55 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 14:55:38 http://lexiconmegatherium.tumblr.com/post/126515730356/inspired-by-many-many-hours-of-playing-dungeon 14:55:50 fully sweet 14:55:56 dang, nearly a year old 14:56:28 http://orig09.deviantart.net/0717/f/2013/041/d/4/dungeon_crawl_bitter_soup_by_kuromajinten-d5uhagd.jpg 14:56:34 http://lexiconmegatherium.tumblr.com/image/99196671731 they also made this, apparently . elf 14:57:02 sigmund comix <3 14:57:05 no one ever makes grinder comix. 14:58:05 http://thirqual.tumblr.com/post/146019711195/a-roguelike-metaphor 14:59:54 http://wondersableye.tumblr.com/post/145580915434/messing-around-with-lighting this one's cool 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:01:37 http://fareastyellowone.tumblr.com/post/137693209143/i-could-not-complete-this-forever another sigmund 15:01:52 http://crawl-lord.tumblr.com/post/135040518665 lmao 15:03:20 and here's some erotic dowan/duvessa fanart, so i think i'm done. 15:05:16 lol 15:05:54 anyway we should contact some of these guys and ask for permission to add their stuff to our fanart page 15:05:59 maybe not the dowan/duvessa person 15:08:03 i'll send out some messages. 15:10:39 yaktaur drawing apparently isn't made by the person who posted it 15:12:46 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:19:28 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 15:19:41 hey lightli 15:19:45 hi 15:19:45 Lightli: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 15:19:46 ??scimitar 15:19:47 scimitar[1/1]: (long blades; -2 acc / 12 dam / 1.4 base delay / 0.7 min delay). A long sword with a wide, curved blade. 15:19:48 !messages 15:19:49 (1/1) elliptic said (4h 3m 4s ago): that wouldn't be anything new, compare scimitar and demon blade right now 15:19:50 ??demon blade 15:19:50 demon blade[1/1]: (long blades; -1 acc / 13 dam / 1.3 base delay / 0.6 min delay). A terrible weapon, forged in the fires of Hell. Can be {bless}ed into a {eudemon blade}. 15:20:42 -!- maha_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:21:10 Still would be weird for the "great" sword to be worse in every single way than a 1-hander 15:21:25 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 15:21:28 i mean 15:21:30 however great it is 15:21:32 it's just one sword 15:21:52 how can a single sword compete with two? 15:24:02 PleasingFungus: http://crawl-lord.tumblr.com/image/134451827865 15:25:31 i liked that one 15:25:43 i appreciate all the attention to hair 15:25:56 you can't just say "here's some erotic dowan/duvessa fanart" and not link it 15:28:30 right below it is 'margery committing suicide while giving a rude v' fanart 15:28:35 and below that is an adorable ijyb 15:28:56 I saw that one too and would rather not have 15:29:36 i like the buddhist mythology as dcss sprites image 15:30:19 https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/give-felids-hats-and-cloaks 15:30:51 good tumblr name 15:31:10 whoa, grinder fanart! 15:31:23 http://queenseltas.tumblr.com/post/112499342724/so-uh-grinder-is-buff-for-a-shadow-imp 15:33:20 http://notdoll.tumblr.com/post/87401294307 15:33:24 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:33:54 -!- DevlanMud|Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:43:12 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]] 15:44:19 -!- eki has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:48:29 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:59:13 -!- FunkyBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:47 I just realized 16:01:00 if riposte became a thing alongside the fencer's glove change 16:01:20 you'd be able to get free counterattacks with the dark maul 16:02:33 well, one problem is that it'd be the end of MuSu 16:03:31 !lg * xl>=12 current !dg !zealot trunk !boring urune<=3 s=god% 16:03:36 9804 games for * (xl>=12 current !dg !zealot trunk !boring urune<=3): 1541x Okawaru (15.72%), 1053x Hepliaklqana (10.74%), 802x Vehumet (8.18%), 713x Makhleb (7.27%), 692x Cheibriados (7.06%), 546x Ru (5.57%), 527x Uskayaw (5.38%), 467x Ashenzari (4.76%), 427x Gozag (4.36%), 315x Qazlal (3.21%), 301x Sif Muna (3.07%), 290x Dithmenos (2.96%), 286x Ukayaw (2.92%), 277x The Shining One (2.83%), 277x ... 16:04:23 !lg * xl>=12 current !dg !zealot trunk !boring urune<=3 s=regexp_replace(god, "Ukayaw", "Uskayaw")% 16:04:28 9804 games for * (xl>=12 current !dg !zealot trunk !boring urune<=3): 1541x Okawaru (15.72%), 1053x Hepliaklqana (10.74%), 813x Uskayaw (8.29%), 802x Vehumet (8.18%), 713x Makhleb (7.27%), 692x Cheibriados (7.06%), 546x Ru (5.57%), 467x Ashenzari (4.76%), 427x Gozag (4.36%), 315x Qazlal (3.21%), 301x Sif Muna (3.07%), 290x Dithmenos (2.96%), 277x The Shining One (2.83%), 277x Yredelemnul (2.83%), ... 16:05:11 !lg * xl>=12 currentish !dg !zealot cv<=0.19-a !boring urune<=3 s=regexp_replace(god, "Ukayaw", "Uskayaw")% 16:05:12 No keyword 'currentish' 16:05:22 !lg * xl>=12 recent !dg !zealot cv<=0.19-a !boring urune<=3 s=regexp_replace(god, "Ukayaw", "Uskayaw")% 16:05:27 recentish 16:05:27 er 16:05:27 64466 games for * (xl>=12 recent !dg !zealot cv<=0.19-a !boring urune<=3): 13069x Okawaru (20.27%), 6747x Vehumet (10.47%), 5084x Makhleb (7.89%), 4961x Cheibriados (7.70%), 3274x Ashenzari (5.08%), 3236x Gozag (5.02%), 3039x Qazlal (4.71%), 2747x Dithmenos (4.26%), 2698x The Shining One (4.19%), 2665x Ru (4.13%), 2638x Sif Muna (4.09%), 2277x Pakellas (3.53%), 1604x Kikubaaqudgha (2.49%), 1602x T... 16:05:34 -!- Celsitudo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:05:35 !lg * xl>=12 recent !dg !zealot cv<0.19-a !boring urune<=3 s=regexp_replace(god, "Ukayaw", "Uskayaw")% 16:05:35 ? 16:05:37 54661 games for * (xl>=12 recent !dg !zealot cv<0.19-a !boring urune<=3): 11527x Okawaru (21.09%), 5945x Vehumet (10.88%), 4371x Makhleb (8.00%), 4269x Cheibriados (7.81%), 2809x Gozag (5.14%), 2807x Ashenzari (5.14%), 2724x Qazlal (4.98%), 2457x Dithmenos (4.49%), 2421x The Shining One (4.43%), 2337x Sif Muna (4.28%), 2119x Ru (3.88%), 2018x Pakellas (3.69%), 1359x Trog (2.49%), 1357x Kikubaaqudg... 16:06:42 wow, TSO really used that much 16:08:54 !lg * xl>=12 recent !dg !zealot cv<0.19-a !boring urune<=3 dith s=cls% 16:08:56 2457 games for * (xl>=12 recent !dg !zealot cv<0.19-a !boring urune<=3 dith): 1068x Enchanter (43.47%), 475x Assassin (19.33%), 156x Monk (6.35%), 107x Fighter (4.35%), 104x Gladiator (4.23%), 103x Hunter (4.19%), 62x Wanderer (2.52%), 49x Conjurer (1.99%), 47x Transmuter (1.91%), 45x Warper (1.83%), 40x Earth Elementalist (1.63%), 28x Skald (1.14%), 28x Venom Mage (1.14%), 24x Artificer (0.98%), ... 16:09:06 !lg * xl>=12 recent !dg !zealot cv<0.19-a !boring urune<=3 tso s=cls% 16:09:08 2421 games for * (xl>=12 recent !dg !zealot cv<0.19-a !boring urune<=3 tso): 1658x Fighter (68.48%), 222x Gladiator (9.17%), 123x Monk (5.08%), 84x Hunter (3.47%), 62x Skald (2.56%), 48x Arcane Marksman (1.98%), 40x Warper (1.65%), 36x Wanderer (1.49%), 28x Summoner (1.16%), 22x Earth Elementalist (0.91%), 14x Ice Elementalist (0.58%), 13x Artificer (0.54%), 12x Transmuter (0.50%), 11x Wizard (0.4... 16:09:14 !lg * xl>=12 recent !dg !zealot cv<0.19-a !boring urune<=3 sif s=cls% 16:09:16 2337 games for * (xl>=12 recent !dg !zealot cv<0.19-a !boring urune<=3 sif): 454x Wizard (19.43%), 431x Conjurer (18.44%), 312x Fire Elementalist (13.35%), 261x Summoner (11.17%), 168x Earth Elementalist (7.19%), 158x Enchanter (6.76%), 147x Ice Elementalist (6.29%), 105x Transmuter (4.49%), 70x Air Elementalist (3.00%), 52x Venom Mage (2.23%), 50x Necromancer (2.14%), 27x Monk (1.16%), 27x Wander... 16:09:17 You start eating the chunk of flesh. 16:09:17 _You are feeling hungry. 16:09:17 _You stop eating. 16:09:28 seriously? 16:09:29 That's supposed to be fixed 16:09:32