00:00:00 poison magic is a real school ok 00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:04:03 sounds like you need to go..........back to school 00:04:09 (ba dum tss) 00:04:20 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 00:10:48 poison magic is the trump university of magic schools 00:15:07 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:15:39 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:19:46 -!- idiolect has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:27:34 -!- urugula has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:29:00 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:29:50 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-790-ge39e1af (34) 00:30:03 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:39:12 -!- catp has quit [Client Quit] 00:39:28 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:41:44 FR: Melf's Acid Arrow and Acid Spray 00:44:36 minmay: hey, poison arrow is amazing 00:47:47 -!- olscumpy has joined ##crawl-dev 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:05:22 -!- destrovel has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:06:20 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 01:11:39 -!- docnvk has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:14:26 to be fair, you at least get something mildly useful out of poison magic 01:14:38 instead of sales pitches inviting you to spend even more money for still no benefit 01:18:49 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:19:37 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-790-ge39e1af (34) 01:21:00 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:26:51 I bet someone got a job because of a degree from Trump university 01:26:57 don't knock it till you try it, I always say 01:27:27 heck, getting that degree might even be more fun than playing a venom mage! 01:28:21 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:30:28 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:30:51 down with poison magic! up with water magic! 01:30:55 alternately, light and dark magic 01:33:40 If there's more talk like thise, I'll put up a referendum for a crexit 01:34:02 crawl supports more exits than I would expect 01:34:27 after you put it in the soup it's not your stone imo 01:34:54 has anyone ever actually had stone soup? 01:35:01 I mean I'd try it, sure 01:35:12 I'm sure people have at least had soup on the rocks 01:42:05 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:43:01 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:51:59 time magic 01:52:41 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:55:37 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-790-ge39e1af 01:56:11 -!- jefus- has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:57:16 -!- cato__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:57:17 time magic, what is this, tome4? 01:58:04 it's angband 01:58:10 oh no, shard hounds! 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:14:15 I wanted nethack nymphs, and all they gave me is maurice... 02:16:23 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:17:07 !tell johnstein Just hit 100 beem subscribers on cbro! Looks like the continuous websocket ping task I added helped stability a lot. Now that it has SASL, I'll probably just keep running it from my EC2 instance for all the servers, to prevent admins from needing to hassle with it 02:17:08 gammafunk: OK, I'll let johnstein know. 02:26:43 -!- dexap is now known as paxed 02:30:12 the water nymph tile is pretty cute 02:31:33 -!- home has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:48:21 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-791-g6e182cc: Move Confusing Touch back to level 1 10(64 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6e182ccd96a3 02:53:36 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-790-ge39e1af 02:59:06 space magic was pretty hot shit in saga frontier 02:59:15 i mean, i suppose time magic was too 02:59:33 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02:22 TittyCrusher (L27 HOFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 8397 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=110 mid=0 (Abyss:5) 03:03:31 TittyCrusher (L27 HOFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 8277 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=54 mid=0 (Abyss:5) 03:06:18 -!- olscumpy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:07:47 -!- olscumpy has joined ##crawl-dev 03:07:55 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 03:08:14 -!- home has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:08:40 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-791-g6e182cc (34) 03:09:48 TittyCrusher (L27 HOFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 9153 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=129 mid=0 (Abyss:5) 03:11:54 -!- eb has quit [] 03:13:14 TittyCrusher (L27 HOFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 8942 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=103 mid=0 (Abyss:5) 03:18:39 -!- Dracunos72 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:21:06 TittyCrusher (L27 HOFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 8432 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=90 mid=0 (Abyss:5) 03:22:20 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:23:45 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-791-g6e182cc (34) 03:24:49 -!- hellmonk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:25:50 TittyCrusher (L27 HOFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 9522 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=31 mid=0 (Abyss:3) 03:26:52 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:27:13 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 03:27:49 TittyCrusher (L27 HOFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 9417 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=30 mid=0 (Abyss:3) 03:36:39 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:37:20 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 03:37:30 -!- qoala has joined ##crawl-dev 03:47:41 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 03:47:53 -!- Idolo has quit [] 03:48:35 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:48:38 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:53:58 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:59:53 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:00:05 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:01:11 -!- grisha5 has quit [Client Quit] 04:03:31 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:09:06 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-792-ge504f8b: Dataify cloud damage 10(54 seconds ago, 1 file, 48+ 60-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e504f8bb5598 04:11:18 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]] 04:16:56 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:20:33 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 04:23:45 -!- olscumpy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:25:38 -!- sudarshans has quit [Client Quit] 04:33:17 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 04:34:26 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:39:35 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:50:21 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 04:50:22 The build was broken. (master - e504f8b #6027 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/140319176 04:50:22 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 04:51:55 -!- sudarshans has quit [Client Quit] 04:54:18 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:54:34 -!- minmay has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:03:24 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 05:07:28 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 05:08:33 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-792-ge504f8b (34) 05:15:26 -!- olscumpy has joined ##crawl-dev 05:34:04 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:36:34 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 05:37:37 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 05:47:17 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:03:51 -!- qoala has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:07:43 -!- Svalin has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:10:38 -!- G-Flex| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:12:13 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 06:14:30 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:18:07 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:18:47 -!- noisevoid has joined ##crawl-dev 06:18:52 hello everyone 06:18:57 just curious 06:19:46 has anyone noticed that the screen prints once, then clears itself, and then reprints when you go in and out of your inventory for anything? 06:20:18 i'm playing on a 9600 baud teletype from 1988 and it's rather annoying 06:20:33 since it takes almost a full second to render the screen once... 06:21:46 heh why the slow connection? 06:41:22 i brought it back from the dead 06:41:35 have it hooked up to a raspberry pi 06:42:01 -!- neunon has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 06:46:56 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 06:50:50 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:00:30 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:04:18 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 07:18:46 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:30:33 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:46:20 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 07:47:33 -!- minmay has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:49:16 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:49:17 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 08:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:05:51 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:18:13 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:18:42 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:19:19 -!- MIC132 has quit [Client Quit] 08:19:48 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:21:44 -!- docnvk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:32:14 -!- MIC132 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:34:56 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:35:20 'bindkey' not worknig in some cases (dvorak layout) 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10526 by cykeltillsalu 08:45:34 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:50:42 -!- docnvk has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:52:17 -!- Demise has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:53:53 !learn add wheals oh, wheals broke this that makes sense 08:53:54 wheals: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 08:53:54 wheals[13/13]: oh, wheals broke this that makes sense 08:54:59 !tell koboldina sorry about the comedy of errors, i'll send you an etsy message 08:55:00 wheals: OK, I'll let koboldina know. 08:57:02 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:19:46 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:19:50 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:20:15 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 09:20:33 -!- Finwe has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:22:06 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:23:20 -!- mamgar has quit [Client Quit] 09:28:54 03wheals02 07* 0.19-a0-793-g332687c: Rewrite the delay code. 10(6 days ago, 22 files, 1484+ 1091-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/332687cfe9e1 09:29:19 was kind of hoping that'd be a net negative in lines, but wordy OOP is wordy 09:29:30 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals 09:31:06 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 09:33:30 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 09:34:57 mahalanobis (L19 FoFi) (Swamp:4) 09:34:59 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 09:43:03 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:44:25 -!- Mekire has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:49:08 !crashlog 09:49:12 14145. mahalanobis, XL19 FoFi, T:36455 (milestone): https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/mahalanobis/crash-mahalanobis-20160626-133458.txt 09:49:39 how the heck could a random2avg call cause a segfault 09:49:47 <|amethyst> Crash caused by signal #8: Floating point exception 09:49:57 !source random2avg 09:49:57 <|amethyst> the "floating point" bit is probably a lie 09:49:57 1/2. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/random.cc#l416 09:50:01 <|amethyst> rather, rolls == 0 09:50:14 sum / rolls; 09:50:15 i see 09:50:16 <|amethyst> yeah 09:51:27 <|amethyst> I think it is this 09:51:35 <|amethyst> !source cloud.cc:1369 09:51:36 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/cloud.cc#l1369 09:51:52 <|amethyst> dam_info.random / 9 could be zero 09:52:03 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:52:08 <|amethyst> the other call to this function uses dam.random/15 + 1 09:56:51 -!- olscumpy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:58:53 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:04:45 -!- Nasst has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:08:25 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 10:08:26 The build is still failing. (master - 332687c #6028 : Shmuale Mark): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/140348545 10:08:26 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 10:08:38 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-793-g332687c (34) 10:12:12 oh hey the travis failure is the exact same thing 10:12:35 03|amethyst02 07* 0.19-a0-794-ge3a59af: Don't crash when a monster considers entering meph. 10(85 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e3a59af7d951 10:12:57 i suspect the max was supposed to be a min 10:13:02 <|amethyst> ? 10:13:14 oh i was looking at the new code :P 10:13:15 <|amethyst> no, min would mean it's either 0 or 1 10:13:18 <|amethyst> ah 10:13:26 and so i assumed it was wrong 10:13:40 and that jumped out to me, without actually thinking hard 10:19:27 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:19:42 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:28:53 03|amethyst02 07* 0.19-a0-795-ga36d000: Travis: cat correct crash file in USE_DGAMELAUNCH builds. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a36d0005aeab 10:31:39 03wheals02 07* 0.19-a0-796-gab6c68d: Make eating food interruptible. 10(3 minutes ago, 5 files, 141+ 144-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ab6c68d3494c 10:35:33 wheals: did the nutrition already happen at the end of the delay, or is that a change? I vaguely remember some question about starving while eating 10:36:13 that's a change too, guess i didn't make it clear that it wasn't that way before 10:36:22 but, there's code in place to prevent starving while eating 10:36:52 so that is a hungry ghost nerf, right? (I think that is fine) 10:37:08 which now that i think about it should have been pointless until now? maybe it was for when a death cob hit you and put you back under the starving limit while you were still eating 10:37:27 <|amethyst> that was the idea 10:38:02 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:38:02 -!- wheals has quit [Disconnected by services] 10:38:09 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals 10:38:27 i don't *think* it has much effect at all on fighting hungry ghosts 10:38:42 my understanding is that nutrition at beginning of delay vs end of delay only mattered for hungry ghosts when it was uninterruptible 10:38:45 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:38:51 -!- Rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:39:10 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:39:10 -!- Rast has joined ##crawl-dev 10:39:14 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 10:39:30 wheals: the idea is that the amount of nutrition they take from you by hitting you while you are eating is based on a lower value now 10:39:39 oh true 10:39:48 it probably isn't a big deal with ghosts compared with what it would have been like with death cobs 10:39:49 i didn't even think of that effect 10:40:04 (since death cobs are fast) 10:40:38 was AF_HUNGER always multiplicative, not additive? 10:40:52 it was additive in oldcrawl when hungry ghosts didn't do anything 10:41:00 -!- zxc has quit [Client Quit] 10:41:11 then at some point it changed, maybe when death cobs were given it? not sure exactly 10:41:17 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 10:42:01 anyway the change seems fine to me (though I need to go make sure qw doesn't die because of it the next time it becomes starving during a fight) 10:42:12 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:42:17 so yeah, it is a nerf 10:42:27 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 10:42:45 <|amethyst> hm 10:42:54 <|amethyst> what happens if a chunk rots while you're eating it? 10:43:17 <|amethyst> I see FeedVampireDelay has code to handle that, but I don't see it for EatDelay 10:43:24 oh right 10:45:20 mahalanobis (L26 FoFi) (Elf:2) 10:46:01 <|amethyst> probably the division by zero? 10:46:03 <|amethyst> !crashlog 10:46:04 14148. mahalanobis, XL26 FoFi, T:54156 (milestone): https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/mahalanobis/crash-mahalanobis-20160626-144521.txt 10:46:14 <|amethyst> yes 10:48:58 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:50:12 03wheals02 07* 0.19-a0-797-g7498d9e: Add code to handle invalid EatDelays (|amethyst). 10(34 seconds ago, 2 files, 17+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7498d9eeecd5 10:52:12 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 10:55:24 -!- joy1999 has quit [Quit: Http://www.ZeroIRC.NET ¢Æ Zero IRC ¢Æ Ver 2.9G] 10:56:18 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 10:56:26 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:57:16 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 10:57:17 The build was fixed. (master - e3a59af #6029 : Neil Moore): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/140352831 10:57:17 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 10:57:30 frank2368 (L16 FoAK) (D:15) 10:58:23 wheals: uh, so eating will cancel after some delay without succeeding if a chunk rots? that seems like poor behavior (also for vampires) 10:58:40 especially since afaik eating chooses the chunk closest to rotting 10:59:02 well for vampires that's how it's always been... 10:59:20 well vampires don't use a delay to drink blood potions 10:59:25 and corpses aren't stacked 11:00:01 the point is that if you are carrying 20 chunks and one of them is just about to rot, these changes will cause eating to waste a couple of turns 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:03 as long as there's still at least one chunk left, you'll just eat the next-oldest one 11:00:13 they're all the same item_def 11:00:19 hm, okay, that is a bit better if so 11:00:30 but still not great I feel 11:00:35 schrodinger's chunk 11:01:05 not sure what the alternative is, unless we really do want to add partially-eaten food rations 11:02:16 wheals: the alternative is that chunks don't rot away while an eatdelay is waiting to eat them 11:02:31 but the rot timer still decreases 11:02:36 obviously harder to code though 11:02:38 hm that should be easy enoughto do 11:03:27 -!- DevlanMud|Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:04:01 fortunately harpies no longer destroy your food so we don't need to worry about whether to let them destroy food you are currently eating 11:04:04 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 11:04:05 The build is still failing. (master - a36d000 #6030 : Neil Moore): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/140354479 11:04:05 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 11:04:20 <|amethyst> doh 11:05:04 03|amethyst02 07* 0.19-a0-798-gcbb2a3b: Fix travis building (doh) 10(22 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cbb2a3b22a8c 11:05:53 <|amethyst> wheals: cancelled the travis builds for your two pushes, since they were just going to fail 11:08:36 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-797-g7498d9e (34) 11:14:28 03wheals02 07* 0.19-a0-799-g85d05f8: Avoid rotting chunks being eaten (elliptic). 10(24 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/85d05f8d2477 11:14:39 elliptic: a one-liner ^ :) 11:15:08 cool 11:15:55 always a good sign when stuff like this is easy to do after code rewrites 11:16:46 -!- sudarshans has quit [Client Quit] 11:18:06 <|amethyst> wheals: maybe rename is_being_drained to is_being_eaten and use it there and in handle_starvation? 11:18:32 <|amethyst> wheals: I guess you'd need to make it take an item_def* instead of item_def& 11:18:40 <|amethyst> for the handle_starvation case 11:19:39 <|amethyst> !learn set millimarvin[1] 16.598 net lines of code removed (as of 2016-06-26) 11:19:39 millimarvin[1/1]: 16.598 net lines of code removed (as of 2016-06-26) 11:21:52 ??gitstats 11:21:52 gitstats[1/4]: http://s-z.org/crawl-stats/ — updated infrequently 11:22:39 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:22:44 i'm at 82% of a marvin 11:22:45 hmm, I wonder if it would be too sketchy to have current_delay never return null, and return a stub object that answers false (or whatever is appropriate) to all inquiries when there's no real delay 11:23:09 right now every call site has to check for null there and some do it indirectly too 11:26:38 <|amethyst> wheals: I see some inverted logic 11:26:53 <|amethyst> wheals: in main.cc if (!you_are_delayed() || current_delay()->is_resting()) { prev_was_rest = false; } 11:27:02 <|amethyst> wheals: I think should be !current_delay()->is_resting() 11:27:30 indirectly like using you_are_delayed 11:27:43 you have to look into its code to know that it says something about the validity of the value returned by current_delay 11:27:44 indeed 11:29:39 03wheals02 07* 0.19-a0-800-g33cdfc7: Correct some flipped logic (|amethyst). 10(11 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/33cdfc7763ef 11:38:26 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:39:10 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 11:39:55 New branch created: pull/306 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/306 11:39:55 03ChrisOelmueller02 {GitHub} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/306 * 0.19-a0-794-g59af1b6: Forbid *Corrode on CPA artefacts 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/59af1b6479d9 11:39:57 ?/M listing shows user glyph but built-in colour 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10527 by lynn 11:42:47 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:43:47 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:43:51 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:44:11 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals 11:44:38 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:50:12 I cannot eat when I try to but it causes time to pass when it stops me 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10528 by ajon 11:51:54 good, make sure not to back up your save or anything 11:52:05 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:06 The build was fixed. (master - cbb2a3b #6033 : Neil Moore): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/140359057 11:52:07 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 11:53:29 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 11:55:39 actually it's easy to reproduce, nvm 11:56:45 stupid dumb hacks 11:57:00 <|amethyst> looks like it happens whenever you eat food from inventory? 11:57:25 yeah 11:57:51 03wheals02 07* 0.19-a0-801-gb92010e: Fix eating food in inventory. 10(6 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b92010e7c528 12:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:08:36 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-801-gb92010e (34) 12:09:44 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:12:10 -!- cato__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:16:22 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:18:38 -!- doll has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:20:51 I know a way to fix all food related bugs... 12:20:51 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:22:25 -!- aiena has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:26:08 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:27:38 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:47 !eat rast 12:28:57 |amethyst: ty for fixing my bad meph code 12:34:17 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:18 The build passed. (master - 85d05f8 #6034 : Shmuale Mark): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/140360431 12:34:18 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 12:34:27 -!- lukano has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:38:24 -!- destrovel has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:40:52 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:47:17 -!- DevlanMud|Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:51:11 -!- Telnaior has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:57:32 -!- _dhm has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:16 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:02:15 -!- docnvk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:03:26 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:13:48 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:14:51 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:19:49 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:20:28 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:22:04 -!- daek_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:22:55 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 13:23:02 -!- ChaseSP has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:23:16 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:23:43 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:35 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:44 hello 13:25:39 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:28:34 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-801-gb92010e (34) 13:29:24 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:31:05 apparently now the wiki/reddit has people wearing no amulet at all instead of amulet of faith 13:31:21 this is sad 13:31:59 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:33:18 -!- flappity has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:33:54 faith could be designed better IMO 13:34:39 once you reach full piety it should have a second benefit 13:34:50 is it intended that &z gives the "spell is very dangerous to cast" warning now? 13:35:10 <|amethyst> minmay: what version? 13:35:12 <|amethyst> %git 551c5c89 13:35:12 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-763-g551c5c8: Don't warn about spell difficulty with &z 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 44+ 35-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/551c5c896588 13:35:13 Naruni: why? it is still good on many gods once you reach ****** 13:35:23 oh, that was recent 13:35:26 never mind 13:35:51 <|amethyst> faith means you can use piety-costing abilities more often, because you will regain piety more quickly 13:36:03 maybe naruni exclusively worships vehumet! 13:36:12 yep pretty much 13:36:42 the games that i've found faith, sometimes has been before a god 13:36:50 fortunately the piety cost of removing faith on vehumet is pretty minor 13:37:01 i take it off instantly because i do not want to be bound to that item once i reach a god 13:37:53 that... doesn't make that much sense 13:38:17 "minmay> apparently now the wiki/reddit has people wearing no amulet at all instead of amulet of faith" im not the only one 13:38:19 it doesn't make any sense at all 13:38:42 I'm pretty sure people don't understand what the item does at a basic level 13:38:49 <|amethyst> "However, the piety cost to remove an amulet of faith can be intimidating, and may seem like a good argument not to use the amulet at all. Depending on the god involved, the impact of losing a third of your piety can be severe. Making up lost piety is annoying, but rarely devastating, and the benefits of wearing an amulet of faith for long periods of time can be immense. Fear of occasional and entirely voluntary piety loss should not be a major concern w 13:39:05 also, this reminds me, faith should either have an unequip penalty with xom, or do nothing with xom 13:39:17 <|amethyst> or was it something else on wiki? 13:40:05 If I don't have a god yet, and I find a +2ev amulet, I'm going to switch out faith without question 13:40:19 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:40:24 well sure, faith does literally nothing for atheists 13:40:33 i also don't see piety gain as much of a problem that i really benefit much from the accelerated gain 13:40:35 there's no decision to make there 13:40:45 once you do find a god though you should consider putting faith back on 13:40:51 depending on the god 13:41:29 elliptic, i agree with that, but i rarely, if ever, have found myself saying 'i really don't need this amulet of reflection, ill wear faith instead' 13:41:56 i also don't see piety gain as much of a problem that i really benefit much from the accelerated gain 13:41:59 probably you are overvaluing reflection and undervaluing faster piety gain then 13:42:16 then why do you care about the unequip penalty, if you don't benefit from piety.. 13:42:17 <|amethyst> e did say e worships Vehumet most of the time 13:42:19 er 13:42:23 |amethyst: it was just a guess 13:42:27 faith is sweet 13:42:35 i mean, i often don't wear it 13:42:42 yeah, i'm not saying my word is gospel here, just that this is how i understand why people would rather use nothing than faith 13:42:45 well, +5 or +6 reflection is pretty good, I can see using that over faith early game on a number of gods 13:42:47 anyway this confirms my suspicion that lots of players have no clue what faith does 13:42:50 but a lot of the time that's because i've already found some ridiculous randart by the time i find faith 13:43:52 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:43:52 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:43:56 or alternatively i am using one of the gods that faith doesn't help a ton with 13:44:14 minmay, perhaps an alternative way of saying that is 'lots of players have no clue how to fully utilize faith'? 13:44:28 of course, there's also the "game veh's gifting system" game with faith 13:44:50 ProzacElf: by that do you mean "faith is great with veh because you get good gifts more quickly"? 13:45:09 veh is actually one of the best gods to use early faith on IMO 13:45:10 also if you don't have enough spell levels to learn something you want, you can take it off and reset the gift timer 13:45:11 *grumble* if he would ever give good gifts... 13:45:14 you take it off later on 13:45:43 once you've gotten all the gifts, or earlier if you decide you don't care about getting the final gift quickly 13:45:58 i haven't used veh in a few months but i assume that is still a feature of veh + faith 13:45:59 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:46:08 If you don't value piety with your god you should probably consider picking a different god 13:46:24 ProzacElf: I don't think doing that ever is a good idea 13:46:34 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:46:51 haha 13:47:08 I've had some occasions where intentionally delaying veh gifts was a good idea, but I spam 5 instead of losing extra piety with faith 13:47:23 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:47:28 i dunno, once you've got extended range and/or wizardry, veh piety doesn't mean all that much 13:47:41 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 13:48:24 ProzacElf: yeah, that's why it is fine to take off faith when you have the spells you want and have some other good amulet to switch to 13:49:06 but I think people who want to throw away veh piety just to delay getting new spells either don't understand how veh works or don't understand how spellcasting skill works 13:50:11 I can understand people who don't like wearing faith, although I wouldn't ignore it myself 13:50:21 the psychological aspect of "losing" something is huge 13:50:31 i'm not saying i do it a lot 13:50:37 but sometimes i really want fcloud or parrow or iron shot or whatever 13:50:59 and i figure i can eat the piety hit once to make sure i get it before i get the final gifts 13:51:25 and for some reason my veh games also tend to be the games where i find very few ?amnesia 13:51:35 it's like that thing where people don't like an equivilent trade, or betting $10 on a coinflip when they'll get the other guy's $10 if they win 13:51:38 my guess is that you aren't training spellcasting enough 13:51:46 ProzacElf, once i tested something like that out, i'm pretty sure once he assigns a spell for a certain gift level that spell is forever set 13:51:50 even though it's statistically a wash, people want to have better gain for that 13:51:58 are you saying you can change it? 13:52:03 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:52:13 Naruni: no, i meant i want to delay him offering the new gift until i've gotten the current one 13:52:15 Naruni: no, the point is that when you get offered a new gift the old gift is no longer available 13:52:17 because it "feels" twice as bad to lose [x] amount of thing, as it "feels" good to gain the same amount 13:52:29 oh i see now 13:52:34 so people hate faith amulet piety loss 13:52:36 -!- jefus- has joined ##crawl-dev 13:52:46 even though you're losing about the same amount as you gain with it on 13:52:49 so it's usually a wash 13:52:49 however unless you hate spellcasting skill it is pretty hard to find yourself unable to memorize something 13:52:54 elliptic: spc is usually either my highest or second highest trained skill on veh guys 13:53:02 if you just implemented the Patented Minmay Vehumet Fix you wouldn't have this problem 13:53:14 my real issue i think is learning more spells than i actually need in many of those cases 13:53:57 ProzacElf: yeah, could be... I think one issue with current veh is that players feel like they are missing out on something if they don't memorize a spell that veh offers them 13:54:01 i'll see those 7 unused spell levels burning a hole in my pocket and then think "well, i have bolt of cold already but lightning bolt sounds useful too" 13:54:07 I have spell levels issues sometimes because I really wanna pump up spell power 13:54:15 I pretty much never learn 2 bolt spells 13:54:19 yeah, i very rarely bother with any spells he offers before level 5 13:54:34 but then i run into a situation after that where i want all of them 13:54:41 even if i know i'll almost never cast them 13:54:43 I just want good AoE damage spell or two+iron shot/OoD 13:55:19 but also, unless you're DE or Sp, it's pretty hard to have your spellcasting keep pace with your primary damage school 13:56:11 -!- jeefus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:56:23 even if you just care about spell power you shouldn't let spellcasting lag very far behind conj/element 13:57:00 unless you are playing some species with a bad spellcasting apt 13:57:23 tabstorm (L9 MiBe) (D:9) 13:57:25 i mean, it sounds to me like 'veh asks players to make choices about allocating spell levels; it is possible to make contextually bad choices' 13:57:25 since it is fully half as effective at raising spell power and reducing fail rates for dual-school spells, and higher skills cost more to raise 13:57:36 that sounds like success, to me 13:57:39 !crashlog tabstorm 13:57:41 1. tabstorm, XL27 HOAM, T:64097 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/tabstorm/crash-tabstorm-20160417-153754.txt 13:58:03 see, if you asked me earlier how much spellcasting raised spellpower 13:58:05 ...bolt rendering crash? 13:58:15 I would not have been able to give you any sort of answer besides "less" 13:59:30 tabstorm (L11 MiBe) (D:10) 13:59:37 !crashlog tabstorm 13:59:38 2. tabstorm, XL9 MiBe, T:3728 (milestone): https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/tabstorm/crash-tabstorm-20160626-175724.txt 13:59:45 oh, i see 13:59:55 oh god 14:00:01 the food is rotting while he eats it 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:08 hence a crash 14:00:13 PleasingFungus: wheals fixed that I think 14:00:17 %git 14:00:17 07wheals02 * 0.19-a0-801-gb92010e: Fix eating food in inventory. 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b92010e7c528 14:00:24 that's the same version 14:00:24 <|amethyst> %git 85d05f8 14:00:24 07wheals02 * 0.19-a0-799-g85d05f8: Avoid rotting chunks being eaten (elliptic). 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 5+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/85d05f8d2477 14:00:31 Version: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup 0.19-a0-801-gb92010e 14:00:45 possibly he didn't fix it correctly then! 14:01:04 i mean, in principle, it could be something else 14:01:07 !crashlog tabstorm 14:01:08 3. tabstorm, XL11 MiBe, T:4596 (milestone): https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/tabstorm/crash-tabstorm-20160626-175931.txt 14:01:16 but it's definitely chunk rotting 14:02:26 <|amethyst> hm 14:02:27 elliptic: to be clear, i wasn't complaining about how veh works, i was more just pointing out how taking off faith can help remedy a poor strategic decision 14:02:37 <|amethyst> why would it be getting SIGTERM there? 14:02:49 <|amethyst> SIGTERM but not an assertion failure message 14:03:19 invalid pointer dereference? 14:03:24 ProzacElf: yeah, and I was just being skeptical that taking off faith for the sole purpose of reducing piety is ever "correct" 14:03:29 <|amethyst> that would be SIGSEGV I'd expect 14:03:59 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:04:06 it probably isn't 14:04:45 but i doubt that it is ever so "incorrect" as to have a major impact 14:04:45 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 14:05:11 goolancer (L4 DsGl) (D:2) 14:05:12 yeah, the worst it can really do is delay being gifted an even better spell for a while 14:05:17 <|amethyst> !crashlog 14:05:18 14152. goolancer, XL4 DsGl, T:1659 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/goolancer/crash-goolancer-20160626-180510.txt 14:05:40 <|amethyst> okay, CAO so I can check the core dump 14:06:14 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-802-gc7416d1: Fix warnings 10(14 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c7416d172f0d 14:06:36 otoh, my most successful veh game was probably a tecj that conveniently found books with pretty much every air spell except chain lightning 14:06:51 so i didn't have to worry at all about learning spells on veh's timetable really 14:08:10 <|amethyst> hm, core dump seems wrong 14:08:13 something very odd is happening here 14:08:19 <|amethyst> warning: core file may not match specified executable file. 14:08:37 on an unrelated note, sunlight is an annoying fed ability. because it's technically optimal to use at least once in pretty much every fight, but it gets tedious to do it 14:08:37 is it by design that warpers don't have the choice to start with a ranged weapon? 14:08:51 especially since the targeting usually puts you in the halo 14:12:49 chukamok (L3 TrMo) (D:2) 14:13:05 Naruni: there was some vague idea of giving Wr that option and removing AM 14:13:45 <|amethyst> !crashlog 14:13:46 14153. chukamok, XL3 TrMo, T:1140 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/chukamok/crash-chukamok-20160626-181249.txt 14:13:56 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: it's making it all the way to current_delay 14:14:01 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: from _rot_stack 14:14:08 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: and failing there somehow 14:14:49 hrm 14:16:25 -!- Grivan has quit [] 14:16:41 -!- halv has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 14:16:53 i wish i could reproduce this crash 14:16:57 that fix is in a really weird place 14:20:16 i actually can't make it crash even without wheals' fix 14:20:59 tabstorm (L15 MiBe) (Spider:4) 14:21:10 moving fast... 14:21:26 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:21:40 highscore table one out 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10529 by spanner 14:22:31 there we go 14:23:06 <|amethyst> !lg spanner dsvm 14:23:08 2. spanner the Stinger (L6 DsVM), mangled by an ice beast on D:3 on 2016-06-26 17:52:42, with 469 points after 5301 turns and 0:50:34. 14:23:13 !lg tabstorm x=dur 14:23:14 2321. [dur=0:00:21] tabstorm the Chopper (L2 MiBe of Trog), quit the game on D:3 on 2016-06-26 17:50:43, with 18 points after 177 turns and 0:00:21. 14:23:15 <|amethyst> !lg arkorax vswn 14:23:16 7. Arkorax the Skirmisher (L7 VSWn of Cheibriados), slain by an ogre (a +0 giant club) on D:4 on 2016-06-10 10:09:49, with 473 points after 2558 turns and 0:03:02. 14:23:24 !lm tabstorm x=dur 14:23:25 19342. [2016-06-26 18:21:01] [dur=0:22:26] tabstorm the Executioner (L15 MiBe of Trog) (Spider:4) 14:24:15 realtime run ruined by a food bug, he'll be happy to hear that 14:25:45 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/qw/crash-recursive-qw-20160626-181048.txt 14:26:01 also broke qw (not sure why qw's crash was recursive and the others weren't) 14:26:21 tabstorm (L16 MiBe) (Shoals:2) 14:27:09 i seem to have a fix, though i don't really understand it 14:27:14 but i could reproduce the crash, and now i can't 14:27:29 <|amethyst> how to reproduce it? 14:28:39 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-803-gc502d1e: Fix a rotting food crash, maybe 10(21 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c502d1e6abe1 14:29:03 -!- _dhm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:29:08 |amethyst: i set FRESHEST_CHUNK to 20, edited timed_effects[] to + { rot_inventory_food, 10, 10, false }, (from 100, 300), and set chunk nutrition to 1 14:29:18 then made myself starving and repeatedly ate chunks until the game crashed 14:31:17 can rebuild if you're confident about the fix 14:31:22 which, judging from the commit message 14:31:27 you have 100,000% confidence 14:31:33 i mean, i'm already rebuilding 14:31:40 since worst case we keep seeing the crashes 14:31:55 which is useful info! 14:32:00 worst case you introduce a new bug that deletes saves!!!! 14:32:22 seems unlikely 14:33:14 ??rebuild 14:33:14 rebuild[1/2]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 14:33:29 specifically i'm rebuilding cao because that's where the crashes seem to be 14:33:37 could rebuild others too 14:33:57 there were also crashes on cjr 14:34:06 !learn edit rebuild[2] s| Bug| https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/rebuild Bug| 14:34:07 No change: regex ` Bug` does not match `Trunk update start times in UTC (second number during summer time): CAO: 1700; CDO: 0600/0500; CLAN: 2300/2200; CBRO: 0800/0700; CXC: 0500/0400; CPO: every 15 minutes; CJR: every hour` 14:34:13 !learn edit rebuild[1] s| Bug| https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/rebuild Bug| 14:34:13 rebuild[1/2]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/rebuild Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 14:34:42 probably not very useful to suggest bugging grunt 14:34:54 !learn edit rebuild[1] s| Bug|/ Bug| 14:34:54 rebuild[1/2]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 14:34:55 are you kidding? it's so fun 14:35:34 it actually seems to work without trailing slash but yeah I guess consistency! 14:36:13 woodtrims (L4 MiBe) (D:4) 14:36:24 I'll do cjr 14:36:43 oh 14:36:46 someone already is 14:36:49 if my fix works, we'll be left with another great question, wrt: why 14:37:14 <|amethyst> yeah, without a full backtrace it's kind of hard to tell 14:37:21 PleasingFungus: hm, it looks like the while (stack_timer.size()) was an infinite loop before your change 14:37:33 !learn edit rebuild[1] s/Bug[^.]+./Bug |amethyst or Nap.Kin for CDO./ 14:37:33 rebuild[1/2]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/rebuild/ Bug |amethyst or Nap.Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 14:37:40 because the break didn't happen and also the pop_back() didn't happen while eating 14:37:48 is that all that was going on? 14:37:52 <|amethyst> oh 14:37:58 <|amethyst> right, infinite loop 14:38:00 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-803-gc502d1e (34) 14:38:22 ahh 14:38:28 yeah that'd do it 14:38:47 I don't know the rot code well enough to be sure that your fix is the correct one but it should at least avoid that :) 14:39:02 i honestly only moved that code out for refactoring (since there was no reason to make that check there). hooray for code smells 14:39:18 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 14:39:32 yeah, the only reason to make the check there is if that function did other important bookkeeping that we didn't want to skip 14:39:44 which hopefully it doesn't 14:40:01 nah 14:40:56 hrm. actually 14:42:13 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: you're thinking about moving it after _update_freshness ? 14:42:28 after init_perishable_stack() is the key bit, but yeah 14:43:26 so you don't also increase stack longevity when eating a non-initialized stack 14:43:44 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:45:57 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-804-g7c5a0f4: Move a chunk-eating rot check later 10(21 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7c5a0f45c8cc 14:46:06 sounds like crawl is actually a supermarket simulator 14:46:06 -!- zxc has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:46:20 _maybe_accept_coupon() 14:47:07 only the freshest rotting meat 14:47:21 <|amethyst> gammafunk: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/BeN0hN2PtgE/maxresdefault.jpg 14:47:40 earlier today I learned that qw didn't understand ghoul metabolism when I noticed it eating 20 rations in a row immediately after entering zot 14:47:46 nice 14:47:49 <|amethyst> or https://lh6.ggpht.com/GEuUrrH9XGjtsYJC6K5HYyLom-JrM--1l2l957qczFdLWPZQYAqfxuDpAyCY5pJy-A=h900 14:47:53 ghoul_reasons, can eat as much as you want 14:47:55 Fast Gameplay HD! 14:48:48 !lg qw won s=crace 14:48:49 68 games for qw (won): 26x Deep Dwarf, 23x Gargoyle, 7x Minotaur, 2x Naga, Demonspawn, Merfolk, Vine Stalker, Ghoul, Troll, Hill Orc, Human, Formicid, Centaur, Tengu 14:49:15 tabstorm (L20 MiBe) (Depths:4) 14:49:17 Felid win soon 14:49:23 <|amethyst> !crashlog tabstorm 14:49:25 5. tabstorm, XL16 MiBe, T:15417 (milestone): https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/tabstorm/crash-tabstorm-20160626-182622.txt 14:49:25 hrm, that rebuild didn't finish? 14:49:45 he probably just hadn't updated 14:49:45 a bit odd it would take that long 14:49:49 ah right 14:49:50 the CAO rebuild did finish 14:49:55 but I don't see the cjr message 14:49:57 about the rebuild 14:50:02 oh 14:50:11 did anyone actually trigger one for CJR 14:50:12 or the one from Jorgrell, rather 14:50:20 I tried to, and I got a message about it being locked 14:50:25 so I assumed someone did 14:50:43 PleasingFungus: you didn't trigger cjr rebuild, did you? 14:50:50 nope 14:50:59 ah, maybe it's not working, let me just try again 14:51:11 oh, didn't realize ts was on there 14:51:18 Could not lock /home/crawl-dev/dgamelaunch-config/locks/crawl-update.lock: someone is already updating the crawl build 14:52:01 !tell Zibudo It seems that the cjr rebuild script might not work, I get a message about a lock because someone is updating the build, but it doesn't appear that anyone is. 14:52:02 gammafunk: OK, I'll let zibudo know. 14:52:14 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:52:20 We'll just have to wait for the normal rebuild maybe? Not sure why that lockfile is there if no one made a rebuild request 14:52:35 <|amethyst> it could be in the middle of the normal rebuild 14:52:40 <|amethyst> no idea how long that takes 14:52:47 |amethyst: well it did this like 15 min ago when I tried 14:53:00 <|amethyst> hm 14:53:06 I suppose it could have been rebuilding the whole time, but I doubt it 14:53:08 <|amethyst> or the build got stuck at 13:07 14:53:12 it's a pretty fast server 14:53:18 <|amethyst> about 1.5 hours ago 14:53:25 <|amethyst> 11:07:20 < Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-797-g7498d9e (34) 14:53:25 compilation error? 14:53:28 <|amethyst> 12:07:20 < Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-801-gb92010e (34) 14:53:31 <|amethyst> then no more 14:53:37 I see 14:53:44 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:53:47 <|amethyst> I'd expect a compilation error to release the lock 14:53:52 |amethyst: what's the behaviour of the rebuild stuff when compilation fails? 14:54:03 oh if it releases the lock then I'm not sure 14:54:03 <|amethyst> I don't know how CJR is set up 14:54:10 it's the 'typical' dgl setup 14:54:32 based on cszo repo of dgl_config (or whatever that one is called) 14:54:55 but we'll have to wait for Zibudo to come around to check on things, I suppose 14:56:18 <|amethyst> hm, it sets a trap to remove the lock files on normal exit (including failure), SIGINT, and SIGTERM 14:56:36 <|amethyst> I do see a bug if any of the lock file paths contain a space 14:57:16 <|amethyst> in dgamelaunch-config/sh-util there is a rm -f ${DGL_LOCKS[@]} that should be rm -f "${DGL_LOCKS[@]}" 14:57:37 <|amethyst> but I doubt that's it, or it wouldn't have just started today 14:57:55 yeah 14:58:59 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:24 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:01:34 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:05:48 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:06:18 oom killer? 15:08:39 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-804-g7c5a0f4 (34) 15:12:52 -!- mmmph has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:13:13 <|amethyst> or the watchdog 15:13:34 <|amethyst> but I guess that would be a different signal 15:18:20 thanks for figuring it out 15:18:56 -!- Wax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:20:04 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 15:20:05 The build passed. (master - c7416d1 #6038 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/140383753 15:20:05 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 15:20:31 |amethyst: well, looks like cjr just rebuilt 15:20:36 %git 15:20:36 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-804-g7c5a0f4: Move a chunk-eating rot check later 10(35 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7c5a0f45c8cc 15:20:50 and it got the latest git, so not sure what was happening there 15:21:38 -!- qoala has joined ##crawl-dev 15:23:50 -!- home has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:24:51 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 15:25:14 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:26:04 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:28:49 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:31:07 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:33:33 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:34:42 <|amethyst> gammafunk: looks like the regularly scheduled rebuild 15:35:10 <|amethyst> gammafunk: and I guess the rebuild an hour before that didn't happen because trunk was still at -801 then 15:35:33 <|amethyst> gammafunk: not sure about the lock though 15:37:37 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:37:47 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:38:46 -!- JimmahDean has quit [] 15:50:15 -!- Telnaior has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:58:13 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:35 asdqwezxcasdasd (L13 DECj) (Lair:5) 16:01:59 |amethyst: oh right, I forgot that it won't rebuild if there's nothing to rebuild 16:02:11 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 16:02:12 The build passed. (master - c502d1e #6039 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/140387876 16:02:12 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 16:02:13 !crashlog 16:02:14 14158. asdqwezxcasdasd, XL13 DECj, T:15628 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/asdqwezxcasdasd/crash-asdqwezxcasdasd-20160626-200035.txt 16:02:26 older ver 16:02:32 just hadn't updated their save 16:02:33 you think with a name like that, he'd be happy to hit T 16:05:30 no, that's too far right on the keyboard 16:05:51 that player only types on the 3x3 square on the left 16:08:30 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:08:42 !gamesby asdqwezxcasdasd 16:08:44 asdqwezxcasdasd has played 158 games, between 2016-05-12 05:21:21 and 2016-06-26 01:06:21, won 0, high score 91471, total score 629876, total turns 593799, play-time/day 1:14:45, total time 2d+9:19:13. 16:08:49 cool 16:08:52 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 16:18:33 think he has is browser remember the name? 16:18:43 or he actually remembers that sequence? 16:19:11 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:21:48 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:22:03 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:22:28 ProzacElf: that's an easy sequence 16:22:29 amalloy: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 16:22:41 i only read it once and i could retype it now: asdqwezxcasdasd 16:22:44 oh 16:22:45 so it is 16:24:07 i assume that's zxc's alt 16:24:40 heh 16:32:49 -!- _dhm has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:32:50 http://i.imgur.com/xOfuuXW.png 16:35:39 r i p 16:46:28 -!- CcS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:53:51 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:54:58 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]] 16:59:08 hey wheals are you around 16:59:08 koboldina: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 16:59:08 !messages 16:59:08 (1/1) wheals said (8h 4m 7s ago): sorry about the comedy of errors, i'll send you an etsy message 16:59:12 yeah 16:59:40 about this zigfig tile 16:59:53 for the purposes of a shirt I think I might remove the shadow on the right side, what do you think 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:05 I think it'll look better without it 17:00:41 yeah, that makes sense 17:00:57 OK, will probably put this on a black shirt or maybe navy 17:01:03 thanks for your order, I'll have the custom one up shortly 17:01:29 thanks! 17:01:35 !tell rchandra glad you're having fun. i'm sure i make a lot of mistakes 17:01:36 amalloy: OK, I'll let rchandra know. 17:07:39 top mistake: not buying a shirt yet 17:07:50 sry I'll stop :P 17:08:26 if i were a tiles player, i would. i just can't think of any dcss images that actually mean much to me 17:09:05 amalloy role plays as rupert in all his games, anyhow, so he has no need for a shirt 17:09:38 yeah just print me up a red @ 17:09:57 i'll tape it to a black shirt 17:09:59 you could make an image based on console glyphs 17:10:12 I was thinking maybe like 17:10:19 http://i.imgur.com/NX4GZ.png a black shirt with just the top text on it 17:10:22 showing the orb of zot of something 17:10:38 with a glyph like what you're talking about below it 17:10:44 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:10:56 but that's not the logo anymore!! 17:11:03 lol I was googling it and http://s13.photobucket.com/user/WiryaGreat/media/Dungeon%20Crawl%20Stone%20Soup%20-%20game%20screenshots/dcss_yodawg_009.png.html what is this!!! 17:11:05 well in that case I'm not sure how the glyph would be connected to the image 17:11:05 gammafunk: you ordered a shirt, didn't you? which one? 17:11:06 this zot chamber looks awesome 17:11:15 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:11:18 amalloy: I had a XXX custom designed one, yeah 17:11:22 let me see if I can find it 17:11:39 https://www.etsy.com/listing/448573688/dungeon-crawl-stone-soup-themed-shirt?ref=shop_home_active_1 17:11:50 it does use some "glyphs" but it's not really any kind of console rendering 17:11:59 cute 17:12:22 yeah. also, unfortunately if you have a big square of content like that the heat press stuff will be a little more obvious - you'll note on the sprites it's less so 17:12:33 since I'm able to cut it out without it looking wacky 17:13:50 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 17:14:29 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 17:17:16 -!- Rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:18:06 -!- Rast has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:24 -!- miek__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:27:27 huh, a shirt reading 'xxx' 17:27:49 Did all the bugs with the new eating prompts get fixed? 17:28:15 only time will tell 17:28:22 but i think i fixed the crash you were running into repeatedly 17:28:51 I still have an issue with being prompted if i want to keep eating while resting, without being poisoned 17:28:57 and no monsters in view 17:29:13 and sometimes while autotraveling, there's no real consistency to it 17:29:37 ah, i ran into that but i assumed it was a fulldebug issue 17:29:50 Is there an rc option to disable the prompts? 17:29:50 -!- miek_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:30:19 why would we add an option to let you opt out of a bug 17:30:26 oh, that reminds me of another food bug - if you have food in your inventory but are Starving and try to rest, the auto-eat won't let you rest and demands that you eat something, even though when you are above starving it will just autoeat chunks and then rest 17:30:44 I'm not sure if that's a bug or a feature 17:31:02 tabstorm: you can automatically answer y to the prompt if you never want to interrupt eating 17:31:10 "the qw solution" 17:31:21 I'm probably just going to use the qw solution 17:31:46 at the bottom of http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/qw.rc there is a c_answer_prompt function 17:32:13 Oh, that should also fix things like "keep disrobing?" while nonlethally poisoned, right? 17:32:30 well, it doesn't check lethality 17:33:02 literally all that the c_answer_prompt function does is look at yes/no prompts and answer some of them for you 17:33:33 e.g. the last few lines check whether the prompt includes "Keep eating" and responds yes if so 17:35:56 it looks like eating is being interrupted by the messages for your new nutrition state 17:37:46 as in, the new nutrition state that is causing the auto-eating? 17:38:05 -!- punpun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:38:25 -!- Warrigal is now known as tswett 17:38:57 yes 17:39:00 also you get double prompted 17:39:30 Keep eating? n Keep eating? n You feel hungry. 17:40:03 sounds like a fun bug to fix 17:41:13 i wonder if everything else would have this bug, but it just doesn't show up because of the only-prompt-once thing 17:41:25 the what? 17:41:39 !source ArmourOffDelay::should_interrupt 17:41:40 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/delay.cc#l258 17:41:47 was_prompted 17:41:51 ahh 17:41:53 plausible 17:42:10 probably should just have that on EatDelay too 17:44:22 probably wouldn't hurt 17:45:07 03wheals02 07* 0.19-a0-805-g0a78ef0: Make the eating interruption code the same as armour-wearing. 10(11 seconds ago, 2 files, 10+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0a78ef09d239 17:45:27 *everything breaks* 17:45:34 what about the armour eating interruption code? 17:45:39 for when we add rockmoles 17:46:50 not to mention the interrupting armour eating code, for when we add armour with mouths 17:47:00 !!! 17:47:03 armor with moths 17:47:07 armour-eating moths 17:54:01 i prefer moth-eating armour 17:54:13 new unrand 17:54:23 extra damage against moth-genus enemies 17:55:37 big flyswatter 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01:21 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:03:18 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: Probably restarting if not leaving] 18:05:56 -!- olscumpy has joined ##crawl-dev 18:08:37 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-805-g0a78ef0 (34) 18:10:19 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:11:37 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:15:09 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-a0-805-g0a78ef0 (34) 18:21:25 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:21:59 ^vps 18:21:59 CBRO disk usage=90% | RAM usage=25% | uptime/CPU= 18:21:59 up 591 days, 3:40, 6 users, load average: 0.56, 0.49, 0.40 18:23:42 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:27:42 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:29:42 -!- lukano has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:29:56 -!- docnvk has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:30:02 -!- noisevoid has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:32:37 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:33:30 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:39:30 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:40:30 -!- Yermak_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:43:54 -!- Yermak has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:45:08 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:57:44 -!- Yermak_ is now known as Yermak 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:12 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:04:33 -!- grammu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:07:14 New branch created: pull/307 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/307 19:07:14 03ChrisOelmueller02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/307 * 0.19-a0-804-g7ed7a56: Consistent table header style for chardump notes section 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7ed7a5650574 19:09:53 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 19:19:04 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:23:52 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:24:23 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 19:26:20 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]] 19:31:11 -!- grammus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:33:11 -!- _dhm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:35:44 -!- tabstorm has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:40:10 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:33:51 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:47:43 -!- Shard1697_ is now known as Shard1697 20:54:10 -!- Jafet has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 20:54:17 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 20:54:23 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Quit: *ollies out*] 20:54:27 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 20:56:23 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:04:56 -!- flappity_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:11:59 -!- Rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:12:02 -!- Rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 21:16:52 -!- cato__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:20:19 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 21:24:17 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:24:19 -!- Jafet has joined ##crawl-dev 21:25:01 !vault erik_arrival_gehennom 21:25:01 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/arrival/large.des#l219 21:25:50 this and the vault below it are still really, really bad 21:26:53 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:27:08 oh, i never noticed that was supposed to be the geh end 21:28:14 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 21:30:25 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:34:18 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:35:39 Some unidentified amulets are not picked up automatically 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10530 by chikinn 21:36:38 ^vps 21:36:38 CBRO disk usage=89% | RAM usage=33% | uptime/CPU= 21:36:38 up 591 days, 6:55, 6 users, load average: 1.39, 1.54, 1.10 21:36:38 johnstein: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 21:36:53 ^vps 21:36:53 CBRO disk usage=79% | RAM usage=33% | uptime/CPU= 21:36:53 up 591 days, 6:55, 6 users, load average: 1.08, 1.46, 1.08 21:37:32 ^vps 21:37:32 CBRO disk usage=77% | RAM usage=34% | uptime/CPU= 21:37:32 up 591 days, 6:56, 6 users, load average: 0.69, 1.31, 1.05 21:41:43 -!- VoxSomniator_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:41:52 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:43:18 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:43:58 ^vps 21:43:58 CBRO disk usage=69% | RAM usage=33% | uptime/CPU= 21:43:57 up 591 days, 7:02, 6 users, load average: 0.82, 1.14, 1.05 21:44:04 ah. much better 21:46:21 -!- bunge has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:47:28 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:51:16 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:53:59 is it intended that throwing non-tomahawks/javelins/locks makes no noise? seems odd that throwing a stone is silent and throwing a tomahawk or slinging a stone is not 22:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:01:26 !vault hangedman_screamer 22:01:27 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/float.des#l2132 22:01:55 does this vault have a theme other than "autoexplore trap" 22:07:15 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:07:33 -!- Jafet has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 22:09:28 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:11:02 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:12:58 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 22:29:49 -!- rmutt has quit [Quit: .] 22:30:08 !seen wheals 22:30:09 I last saw wheals at Mon Jun 27 01:51:15 2016 UTC (38m 53s ago) joining the channel. 22:31:13 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:33:50 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:35:20 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 22:38:54 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:47:41 -!- Rast- has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:48:09 -!- Rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 22:51:28 -!- valrus has quit [Client Quit] 22:59:12 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:22 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:15:10 -!- us17 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:15:10 -!- us17_ is now known as us17 23:15:34 dumb linux question. cbro obviously has lua installed. but typing 'lua' at the command prompt says 'lua: command not found'. I'm sure this makes sense, but I don't really understand what my situation is 23:16:52 (a) crawl uses the library, not the program (b) last I checked, crawl requires lua 5.1; since most linuxes have moved past that version, 5.1 is likely installed under a slightly different name or in a nonstandard place 23:17:09 ah ok 23:18:02 on my mint system, I have liblua5.1-0 and liblua5.1-0-dev packages installed for crawl; there is no associated program 23:18:26 (also something else installed liblua5.2-0, without the program or the dev libraries) 23:19:30 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:20:19 minmay: // Throwing and blowguns are silent... 23:20:44 i'm not sure where throwing tomahawks/javelins would make noise? possibly i'm missing something in the code 23:22:11 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:24:09 -!- XVar has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:25:22 -!- paxed has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:25:31 -!- Dracunos72 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:26:30 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:28:56 -!- tealeaves has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:35:23 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:35:58 -!- DevlanMud|Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:38:53 I assure you, throwing tomahawks/javelins/locks makes noise 23:39:12 impact noise, maybe? 23:39:16 it doesn't make very much, but it makes noise 23:39:19 at the destination, yes 23:39:20 stones do not 23:40:19 I'd expect either all missiles (except perhaps needles) to make noise at the destination, or none 23:40:43 hrm 23:41:07 i would expect the same, yes 23:41:13 this is empirical? 23:41:22 i'm still hunting through the code 23:41:34 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:42:52 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 23:43:00 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:44:00 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:44:35 -!- Alcopop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:48:15 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:49:47 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:51:30 minmay: projectile impact noise is base damage / 3 23:51:44 that means arrows, bolts, stones, needles & throwing nets are silent 23:55:58 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev