00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:05:18 -!- DevlanMud|Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:10:22 amalloy: how one android console player players crawl: http://imgur.com/JNaapfy 00:10:29 I guess how all of them do! 00:10:51 wow 00:10:54 not that it would be a lot better for tiles, if an updated tiles app existed 00:11:02 <|amethyst> probably not *all* 00:11:12 <|amethyst> some of them have real keyboards :) 00:11:16 true 00:11:43 I guess many use the webtiles thing and probably use an attached keyboard 00:11:56 but that seems not very portable 00:12:18 no idea what the webtiles UI looks like without a keyboard 00:12:39 I guess it would be the same as that, just a big old keyboard overlay 00:13:04 I've played crawl on android a bit, didn't think to use a translucent keyboard but I think I'd rather use the smaller display 00:24:08 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:31:12 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:32:07 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:33:39 "Also what every happened to the amulet of stasis that would allow formicids to teleport/haste/berserk? Did the devs remove it? I thought it was a good little trinket." 00:33:45 uh 00:34:04 <|amethyst> stasis ^= you.wearing(AMU_STASIS) 00:34:15 <|amethyst> (that is not an actual line of code, don't worry) 00:34:54 And where is that amulet of warding that let you make summons under Sacrifice Love? The devs remove everything 00:35:15 actually some of these are good ideas for april 1st 00:35:29 Opposite Crawl 00:36:50 <|amethyst> flip all the species/job recommendations 00:37:04 <|amethyst> invert I mean, not reverse 00:37:21 push chaoscrawl to master 00:37:46 I was going to mention chaoscrawl 00:37:52 i still say muee should be recommended 00:37:56 <|amethyst> who's chao? 00:38:06 for mummy i mean 00:38:14 what does mu currently recommend? 00:38:20 <|amethyst> oh, I guess the former Secretary of Labor 00:38:22 FE and IE 00:38:24 not AE or EE 00:39:05 <|amethyst> more completely: WZ, CJ, Ne, IE, FE, Su 00:39:22 How OP is MuEE and why is it my new boyfriend? 00:39:32 <|amethyst> so it could stand to add two 00:39:44 !kw mage 00:39:51 Keyword: mage => AE|Cj|EE|--FE|IE|Ne|Su|VM|Wz 00:39:53 hrm 00:40:08 !kw warriormage 00:40:08 No keyword 'warriormage' 00:40:16 !kw warrior 00:40:17 Keyword: warrior => Fi|Gl|Mo|--Hu|As 00:40:22 !kw adventurer 00:40:23 No keyword 'adventurer' 00:40:39 !kw adventurer Ar|Wn 00:40:41 Defined keyword: adventurer => Ar|Wn 00:40:49 i wish I had a boyfriend 00:40:56 can you have - in kw? 00:41:06 I guess we usually don't do that 00:41:10 <|amethyst> ? 00:41:16 in the kw name 00:41:24 <|amethyst> !kw foo-bar baz 00:41:24 No keyword 'baz' 00:41:30 !kw warriormage Sk|Tm|Wr|AM|En 00:41:32 Defined keyword: warriormage => Sk|Tm|Wr|AM|En 00:41:41 <|amethyst> !kw foo-bar hp>10 00:41:42 Defined keyword: foo-bar => hp>10 00:41:45 <|amethyst> !lg * foo-bar 00:41:48 690995. thattroll the Skirmisher (L1 GrBe of Trog), quit the game on D:1 (co_arrival_random_square_maze) on 2016-06-25 04:40:07, with 0 points after 0 turns and 0:00:01. 00:41:52 <|amethyst> sounds good to me 00:42:00 !kw warrior-mage warriormage 00:42:00 Defined keyword: warrior-mage => warriormage 00:42:07 <|amethyst> !kw -rm foo-bar 00:42:08 Deleted keyword: foo-bar => hp>10 00:42:30 !kw - name=sebi 00:42:31 Defined keyword: - => name=sebi 00:42:32 <|amethyst> I figured the syntax was lisp-like enough that - would work there :) 00:42:41 <|amethyst> !lm * - 00:42:42 2949. [2016-03-28 10:22:47] Sebi the Jinx (L8 DEAM) entered the Ecumenical Temple on turn 6175. (D:6) 00:42:46 !kw -rm - 00:42:47 <|amethyst> !lm * !- 00:42:47 Deleted keyword: - => name=sebi 00:42:47 No keyword '-' 00:42:54 oh, sorry 00:43:06 <|amethyst> !kw ! name=minmay 00:43:07 Invalid keyword string: ! 00:43:18 <|amethyst> !kw =~ name=minmay 00:43:19 Invalid keyword string: =~ 00:43:20 !kw minmay @minmay won 00:43:21 Defined keyword: minmay => @minmay won 00:43:21 <|amethyst> aww 00:43:28 !lg minmay !won 00:43:29 3755. minmay the Poker (L5 CeCK of Xom), blasted by a blizzard demon (bolt of lightning) on Abyss:1 on 2016-06-24 19:47:16, with 198 points after 2476 turns and 0:10:03. 00:43:40 <|amethyst> keywords aren't interpreted there 00:43:43 don't think kw will expand..yeah 00:43:44 <|amethyst> !lg * minmay !won 00:43:44 yeah, that's what I was checking 00:43:45 in the first arg 00:43:45 No games for * (minmay !won). 00:43:51 <|amethyst> !nick minmay !won 00:43:52 Mapping minmay => (!ckr !lld) minmay !won 00:43:59 <|amethyst> !lg minmay / won 00:44:00 173/3928 games for minmay: N=173/3928 (4.40%) 00:44:03 I could !kw name=minmay probably, but who would query that 00:44:07 !kw -rm minmay 00:44:08 Deleted keyword: minmay => @minmay won 00:44:22 <|amethyst> !nick -rm minmay !won 00:44:23 Deleted !won from minmay => (!ckr !lld) minmay !won 00:44:58 !nick minmay hyperminmay 00:44:58 Mapping minmay => (!ckr !lld) minmay hyperminmay 00:45:26 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-754-g8f09aff: Remove ancestor specialization 10(4 hours ago, 22 files, 24+ 343-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8f09aff7ea2c 00:45:26 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-755-g3f611a2: Shift ancestor upgrades earlier 10(3 hours ago, 3 files, 19+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3f611a26daf6 00:45:26 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-756-gffb28bd: Reformat some monster damage code 10(80 minutes ago, 1 file, 42+ 32-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ffb28bda5809 00:45:26 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-757-g4e014bf: Fix healing listing for monster spells 10(76 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4e014bf79f2a 00:45:26 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-758-g3858e09: Display healing for Major Healing 10(57 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3858e09d16be 00:45:26 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-759-gea9a33e: Fix pain Spectral Weapons (rchandra) 10(35 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ea9a33ed108f 00:46:55 woah 00:47:14 nice 00:47:30 this is all a fruitless effort to get me 00:47:32 -!- Sonderblade has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:47:33 to play Hep on stream 00:47:35 for publicity 00:47:37 lol 00:47:55 i implemented hep ancestor minor healing but it was too minor 00:47:57 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: hm 00:48:04 and major healing would be ridiculous 00:48:07 |amethyst: ? 00:48:14 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: on "fix pain spectral", probably need to handle the case where the summoner died 00:48:17 is it the pain weapon thing? spectral weapons are shady 00:48:19 ahh 00:48:22 i knew it!! 00:48:23 <|amethyst> for weapons like spectral axes 00:48:23 -!- yesno has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:48:37 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 00:49:07 another &&? && actor_by_mid(...)->alive()? 00:49:21 another spectral weapon bug... 00:49:26 or just && actor_by_mid(...)? 00:49:37 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: something like that 00:49:47 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: oh 00:49:51 ? 00:50:05 <|amethyst> never mind 00:50:10 <|amethyst> was something else 00:50:11 ! 00:50:24 <|amethyst> I was thinking "what if attacker->as_monster() is null" 00:50:37 <|amethyst> but of course a spectral weapon can't be a player :) 00:50:48 <|amethyst> I would pull out attacker->as_monster()->summoner into a variable 00:50:49 fr: spectral weapon form 00:51:08 yeah, that code made more sense when user was const 00:51:11 as hep capstone? 00:51:42 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:52:49 hep capstone is you give birth to your descendant 00:53:01 and the baby fights by your side! 00:53:09 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: maybe const actor * const sum = actor_by_mid(actor->as_monster()->summoner); actor * const user = attacker->type == MONS_SPECTRAL_WEAPON && sum && sum->alive() ? sum : attacker; 00:53:11 agricola style 00:53:54 |amethyst: i have another approach 00:54:13 hep capstone is you turn into a baby 00:54:24 minmay: giant floating purple baby? 00:54:33 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:54:43 no just a regular baby 00:54:45 then the monsters eat you 00:55:44 <|amethyst> that exactly describes how I feel when posting on Tavern 00:55:52 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-760-g0ce1166: Fix a potential spectral weapon crash (|amethyst) 10(19 seconds ago, 1 file, 17+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0ce116621bf3 00:56:00 minmay is the real monster 00:56:53 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: you can do actor * const summoner (and user) btw, if you want to be parallel with the const mid_t 00:57:13 enh 00:57:45 when I post on tavern I just imagine that I'm an elf with unusual hair who pushes people away with a thick layer of sarcasm and hostility to hide her own low self-esteem 00:57:47 <|amethyst> in practice all the consts we use in similar situations don't really matter 00:58:19 maybe if you weren't so plain looking you'd have friends and wouldn't need such antisocial behaviour 00:58:22 it's not hard since most of that is already true 00:58:34 <|amethyst> 1. if you're using enough optimisation for it to be able to make inferences from the constness, then you also have enough the flow control analysis necessary from the compiler to infer the constness itself 00:58:47 <|amethyst> s/it to/the compiler to/ 00:59:13 it's for the programmer's benefit 00:59:14 <|amethyst> s/1\. // 00:59:16 <|amethyst> yeah 00:59:27 constness is more of a code quality thing than an optimization thing 00:59:43 "I don't have to hunt through this function looking for places it could change between definition & use" 00:59:51 <|amethyst> yeah, and the other kind of 'const' can't be used for optimisation generally anyway 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:10 as you said, it's not an optimization thing at all with modern compilers 01:00:17 <|amethyst> because const_cast is well-defined 01:00:40 <|amethyst> (unless the pointer is pointing to something that was actually defined as const) 01:00:47 <|amethyst> (then it is UB) 01:02:15 <|amethyst> btw, something that would be nice 01:02:34 <|amethyst> CONST_FROM_HERE_ON_OUT(var) 01:03:01 do any of the later C++ standards have a thing like that? 01:03:26 <|amethyst> not that I'm aware of, but 01:03:31 seems like something the language itself might want to streamline 01:04:15 <|amethyst> really you can usually do it by rewriting your several-assignments-to-initialize into an actually initialization that calls a function or lambda or something 01:04:26 <|amethyst> s/ally/al/ 01:06:18 <|amethyst> (or just ternary logic) 01:06:27 <|amethyst> s/ternary logic/ternary operators/ 01:09:18 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-760-g0ce1166 (34) 01:13:30 @??ancient lich 01:13:31 ancient lich (00L) | Spd: 10 | HD: 27 | HP: 90-127 | AC/EV: 20/10 | Dam: 2013(drain) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 02cold++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 8245 | Sp: b.cold (3d37), force lance (3d27), sum.greater demon, slow, invisibility / b.corrosive (3d28), crystal spear.. 01:13:38 @??curse skull 01:13:38 curse skull (13z) | Spd: 15 | HD: 13 | HP: 45-60 | AC/EV: 35/3 | 07undead, evil, see invisible, fly, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire++, 02cold++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1592 | Sp: sum.undead [06!sil], s.torment [06!sil] | Sz: tiny | Int: human. 01:13:53 @??orb guardian 01:13:54 Orb Guardian (06X) | Spd: 14 | HD: 15 | HP: 67-96 | AC/EV: 13/13 | Dam: 45 | 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 06magic(120), 12drown | XP: 2769 | Sz: Giant | Int: human. 01:13:57 @??killer klown 01:13:57 Killer Klown (00p) | Spd: 13 | HD: 20 | HP: 114-182 | AC/EV: 10/15 | Dam: 3012(klown) | 10doors, see invisible, regen | Res: 06magic(160) | Vul: 11silver | XP: 4727 | Sp: blink [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 01:14:29 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:14:44 @??orb guardian ench:drained:1 01:14:44 Orb Guardian (06X) | Spd: 14 | HD: 15 | HP: 66-94 | AC/EV: 13/13 | Dam: 45 | 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 06magic(120), 12drown | XP: 2766 | Sz: Giant | Int: human. 01:14:56 @??orb guardian ench:drained:10 01:14:56 Orb Guardian (06X) | Spd: 14 | HD: 15 | HP: 66-94 | AC/EV: 13/13 | Dam: 45 | 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 06magic(120), 12drown | XP: 2766 | Sz: Giant | Int: human. 01:14:58 hrm 01:18:27 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-761-g21fb6cf: Change transfer slow to drain 10(45 seconds ago, 4 files, 15+ 15-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/21fb6cf9a68a 01:20:08 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-760-g0ce1166 (34) 01:20:08 -!- trckry has quit [] 01:22:00 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:26:59 good monster 01:27:11 hrm, guess you can't really show any kind of accuracy 01:27:17 would have to be vs fixed defenses 01:27:26 and would just mislead people 01:28:19 damage is the thing that was annoying me there 01:28:46 <|amethyst> ? 01:29:28 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 01:29:54 !source attack.cc:388 01:29:55 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/attack.cc#l388 01:30:15 <|amethyst> ah 01:30:51 <|amethyst> yeah, since that scales base damage it probably makes sense to teach monster to do the same 01:31:33 <|amethyst> maybe a wrapper around mons_attack_spec (or a flag) that does that 01:31:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-762-g9c71ee6: Checkwhite 10(73 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9c71ee647707 01:31:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-763-g551c5c8: Don't warn about spell difficulty with &z 10(32 seconds ago, 1 file, 44+ 35-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/551c5c896588 01:31:49 <|amethyst> so the code isn't duplicated between monster and attack.cc 01:31:50 i mean, it'd only come up with ench:drained:foo 01:31:55 -!- destrovel has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:32:06 @??ancient lich ench:drained:10 01:32:06 ancient lich (00L) | Spd: 10 | HD: 27 | HP: 92-128 | AC/EV: 20/10 | Dam: 2013(drain) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 02cold++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 8142 | Sp: b.cold (3d26), force lance (3d19), sum.greater demon, slow, invisibility / b.corrosive (3d21), crystal spear.. 01:32:10 @??ancient lich 01:32:10 ancient lich (00L) | Spd: 10 | HD: 27 | HP: 90-127 | AC/EV: 20/10 | Dam: 2013(drain) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 02cold++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 8245 | Sp: b.cold (3d37), force lance (3d27), sum.greater demon, slow, invisibility / b.corrosive (3d28), crystal spear.. 01:32:15 spells work, so that' nice 01:34:40 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:35:45 !tell Shard1697 i finally hunted down that 'stairs don't reappear after water nymph dies' thing. the water always takes 5-8 turns to vanish; it's just that usually it doesn't matter 01:35:45 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let shard1697 know. 01:37:44 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:44:48 -!- eb_ has quit [] 01:49:52 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-764-g4316a4d: Double *Drain draining 10(32 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4316a4d2ff9e 01:50:45 probably for the best, just hope it doesn't make me tempted to abyss-scum tomb 01:51:01 oh, *drain. nevermind. definitely a good change 01:51:07 ? 01:51:36 I was thinking it was all sources of drain, which would have made early drain rough and tomb possibly overwhelming 01:51:55 ahh, yeah 01:52:42 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:54:04 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:56:01 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-763-g551c5c8 01:56:36 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:04:22 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:08:47 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-764-g4316a4d (34) 02:16:47 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-765-g4ff09b2: Remove S_CAW 10(15 minutes ago, 3 files, 0+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4ff09b209f5f 02:16:47 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-766-gbd45714: Add a helper method for non-shouting monsters 10(11 minutes ago, 6 files, 14+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bd45714c0092 02:16:47 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-767-gecb35b1: Use monster::is_silenced() in more places 10(63 seconds ago, 3 files, 7+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ecb35b1801d6 02:18:05 %git 70f1de6c 02:18:05 07Eronarn02 {kilobyte} * 0.8.0-a0-4783-g70f1de6: Reroll of Zin recite patch. 10(5 years ago, 28 files, 1515+ 214-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/70f1de6c0081 02:18:11 eronarn... 02:18:42 made the exact same mistake in two different places 02:19:04 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:19:26 my parents made two different mistakes in the exact same place 02:20:18 rip 02:27:46 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 02:28:14 -!- Pekkekke has quit [] 02:31:09 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:32:34 -!- Dracunos72 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:34:01 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:34:52 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:46:11 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 02:50:27 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-768-g388f7cb: Make 2-headed ogre shouts normal volume 10(14 minutes ago, 2 files, 3+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/388f7cb42181 02:50:27 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-769-ga0b0acd: Make pigs squeal 10(3 minutes ago, 5 files, 14+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a0b0acd5d81d 02:53:59 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-767-gecb35b1 02:54:26 PleasingFungus: rip about specialisation, but i think it's the right choice 02:54:26 chequers: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 02:54:43 mostly i'm sad about the tiles 02:54:49 but they were fun to make 02:55:54 I should reglyph the ancestor. Do they have different names for that purpose? 02:56:06 hrm 02:56:08 @??hexer 02:56:08 hexer (11R) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 1 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Dam: 4 | 11non-living, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible, fly, regen, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(6), 05fire, 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | XP: 1 | Sp: slow, confuse | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 02:56:12 they have their own names I think 02:56:26 @??ancestor 02:56:26 ancestor (11R) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 1 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Dam: 4 | 11non-living, 10items, 10doors, see invisible, fly, regen, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(6), 05fire, 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | XP: 1 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 02:56:37 whatcha glyphin to? 02:56:39 yeah, you can use hexer, knight, battlemage 02:56:51 rchandra uses weird glyphs... 02:56:58 not sure yet. tempted to sexistly use the mars/venus symbols 02:57:03 How will you introduce customization to Hep? Some DLC? 02:57:06 but I already use them for human and dg! 02:57:24 which one's which 02:57:25 <|amethyst> U+1F47B 02:57:34 human=mars, dg=venus 02:57:42 |amethyst: love that emoji so much 02:57:56 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-770-g33a097e: Add noises for a few silent monsters 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/33a097e9dc96 02:58:02 I use unicode flag for altars 02:58:06 which probably should be standard! 02:58:19 Cross/dagger thing for my altars 02:58:30 yeah we use that for corpses 02:58:51 as long as they are & in the inventory menu I can't do that! 02:59:19 in the inventory menu? 02:59:27 yess, d& to drop carrion 02:59:28 you mean for chunks? 02:59:29 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:59:42 corpses and inedible chunks I think 02:59:50 well you can't drop corpses 02:59:53 since you can't pick them up 02:59:58 now that only means chunks 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:18 so would make more sense to use the same glyph, I think 03:00:29 hrm 03:00:34 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:04:20 I guess I can use ♀, it's not like I'd have a Dg of hep 03:04:50 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:05:52 oh, speaking of reglyphing, is there documentation of 'cset' option anywhere? I use it for some things, and it works, but it's not in options_guide 03:07:36 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:08:37 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-770-g33a097e (34) 03:08:45 <|amethyst> cset = blah is now an alias for display_char = blah 03:09:00 <|amethyst> purely for compatibility 03:10:01 thanks, I'll change those over 03:10:31 draw_bottom_right? 03:10:36 what do these values mean? 03:10:50 maybe tentacle segments? 03:10:58 perhaps so 03:11:10 <|amethyst> yeah 03:11:34 <|amethyst> line-drawing in general but I think just used for tentacle segments at the moment 03:12:24 oh right, we moved that to draw with lines not too long ago, didn't we 03:12:36 <|amethyst> oh huh 03:12:57 oh, you can't set colour of those dsiplay_chars? I want invis_exposed to not be blue 03:12:58 <|amethyst> DCHAR_FRAME_* is used only for lava orc _display_temperature 03:13:01 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:13:47 !lm rchandra lo decrepit 03:13:49 19. [2014-04-01 02:15:01] hyperrchandra the Prestidigitator (L15 LOAM of Nemelex Xobeh) killed Rupert on turn 35669. (D:13) 03:13:51 Got to bring back lava orcs otherwise our art assets are not being fully utilized 03:13:58 !kw decrepit 03:13:58 Keyword: decrepit => !recent ktyp= type!=crash 03:14:17 wow 0.16 already decrepit 03:14:27 importing over an old nem char probably keeps geting better and better too 03:14:37 <|amethyst> rchandra: yeah, those are just characters because in general they are used in several different colours 03:15:16 <|amethyst> !source ripple_table 03:15:16 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/showsymb.cc#l328 03:15:23 <|amethyst> apparently that's where the colour comes from 03:15:29 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:15:54 <|amethyst> so not customisable at the moment, other than changing the feature colour of the cell 03:22:04 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:23:25 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-770-g33a097e (34) 03:23:41 q: 03:23:43 @??vampire 03:23:43 vampire (05V) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 26-39 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 15, 1505(vampiric) | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(40), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 211 | Sp: vampiric draining (4-22), confuse, invisibility | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 03:23:48 @??vampire knight 03:23:48 vampire knight (10V) | Spd: 10 | HD: 11 | HP: 61-82 | AC/EV: 19/7 | Dam: 33, 1505(vampiric) | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(80), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1350 | Sp: blink close, paralyse, haste, invisibility, vampiric draining (4-30) | Sz: Medium | Int: human.. 03:23:58 one of these shouts, one of these is silent. which is which, and which is correct? 03:24:13 mmm, early game difficulty increases 03:24:39 fr: vampire witch 03:25:00 <|amethyst> I guess the idea is that vampires already make casting noises 03:25:00 i was concerned about that, but hisses are pretty quiet. i could probably be persuaded to roll back the four changes in question, though 03:25:13 |amethyst: and vamp knights don't? 03:25:13 that was a good mmm 03:25:15 not a bad mmm 03:25:19 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: heh 03:25:25 ahh, i don't know good mms from bad! 03:25:30 need to eat from the tree of mm 03:25:43 there is a bowl of m&ms. 1% are deadly poison... 03:25:52 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:26:05 -!- sgun_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:26:13 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-771-g1afe81a: Rework monster roaring 10(11 minutes ago, 5 files, 36+ 25-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1afe81a61426 03:26:22 actually, i think you'll find all processed foods are poison, and furthermore, 03:27:05 ^ that one's a zot nerf 03:27:06 PleasingFungus: so a human shout is "deafening"? 03:27:19 hell, if it's in your ear, 03:27:50 i mean, if a shout and a scream are the same volume, how do i try to make it clear that this thing is louder? 03:28:42 as in, a tt shout is also noise 12 (with no mutations/forms) 03:28:46 yeah no i got you 03:28:57 a "deafening roar" should probably be louder than that 03:29:04 could merge it with rumble 03:29:06 noise 16 03:29:11 shoutitis 2 shout 03:29:26 <|amethyst> I think player vs monster noise levels do not need to be symmetric 03:29:52 it's a little funny that they aren't 03:30:02 yeah, but it's confusing that something "deafening" is no louder than a human shouting 03:30:04 i sort of vaguely worry about player expectations 03:30:32 it's all fumbling around in the dark as long as we don't have the powerful Noisemap View Toggle that i called for all those years ago, of course. 03:30:43 <|amethyst> +1 03:30:58 (also, player dragon shout is noise 18, so even my proposed S_RUMBLE/S_LOUD_ROAR merge wouldn't fix anything!) 03:31:39 i guess a magic dragon is just louder. 03:32:01 channel poll: should salamanders be able to shout? 03:32:07 @??salamander mystic 03:32:07 salamander mystic (08N) | Spd: 10 (swim: 70%) | HD: 10 | HP: 54-75 | AC/EV: 7/7 | Dam: 1004(fire:10-19) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(60), 04fire+++ | Vul: 12cold | XP: 771 | Sp: mystic blast (3d15), b.magma (3d18), haste other | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 03:32:44 they can cast spells that don't work under silence 03:33:00 but ofc so can mummies, and i think it's good that they're silent 03:33:06 -!- Taraiph has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:33:11 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 03:33:12 The build has errored. 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Use !messages to read it. 03:56:07 !messages 03:56:07 (1/1) PleasingFungus said (2h 20m 22s ago): i finally hunted down that 'stairs don't reappear after water nymph dies' thing. the water always takes 5-8 turns to vanish; it's just that usually it doesn't matter 03:56:47 unless you ran into some other, rare bug that made the water stick around longer? like two months ago or something 03:57:00 i was going through my queue of weird shit 03:58:08 haha thanks 03:58:18 I mean it's literally only happened to me that one time I think 03:59:02 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-772-g1d5f80a: Correct a long-out-of-date comment 10(32 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1d5f80ac5682 03:59:07 i had a save where i'd replicated it 03:59:08 sitting around 04:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:39 !bug 9490 04:00:39 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9490 04:00:58 oh god, it's been rotting for like a year 04:01:01 :( 04:01:07 -!- Stelpa has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:01:17 iirc it had some problems. i was working on it... 04:06:46 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:07:36 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-773-gb44c2ef: Fix a divine pronoun in a comment 10(10 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b44c2effaf52 04:08:35 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-772-g1d5f80a (34) 04:13:08 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:19:25 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:20:45 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 04:21:29 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 04:31:56 -!- olscumpy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:32:48 -!- olscumpy has joined ##crawl-dev 04:34:41 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:37:12 -!- Raine|2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:42:40 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:51:23 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 04:53:46 -!- Napkin has joined ##crawl-dev 04:53:46 -!- Napkin has quit [Client Quit] 04:53:57 -!- Napkin has joined ##crawl-dev 04:53:59 -!- Napkin has quit [Changing host] 04:53:59 -!- Napkin has joined ##crawl-dev 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:05:38 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 05:08:34 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-773-gb44c2ef (34) 05:10:04 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:10:54 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 05:11:04 hi 05:28:44 -!- Naruni has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:32:15 -!- olscumpy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:49:45 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:50:45 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:55:25 -!- olscumpy has joined ##crawl-dev 05:57:54 -!- Yermak has joined ##crawl-dev 05:59:33 -!- MaBunny has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:09:33 -!- Dracunos72 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:17:56 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:18:44 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:19:10 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:36:45 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:48:11 -!- Mekire has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:48:35 -!- olscumpy has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:51:58 -!- olscumpy has joined ##crawl-dev 06:52:14 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 06:54:31 -!- Lasty has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:56:12 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:03:22 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:03:39 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 07:05:20 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 07:14:45 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:17:49 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:23:03 !tell pleasingfungus should amulet of harm draining be doubled also? it shouldn't be inconsistent with the artp at least, since it's displayed as being identical 07:23:03 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 07:27:54 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:34:30 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:36:34 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 07:36:35 The build passed. 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11:28:00 (but that doesn't fix it since there's lots of potential conjurations that aren't servitor-castable) 11:29:48 i feel like a lot of the comments about how this pan lord stuff works are not correct 11:32:56 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:35:13 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 11:35:44 -!- Snikeer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:53:50 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:55:19 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:56:01 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:57:21 -!- Demise_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:00:25 -!- Jafet has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:03:52 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:53 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:08:22 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Client Quit] 12:10:14 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:14:00 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:20:05 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:23:33 -!- halv has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:33:42 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:36:38 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:38:26 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 12:42:18 -!- Poncheis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:51:23 -!- Laraso_ is now known as Laraso 12:52:23 -!- docnvk has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:55:59 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:38 -!- doll has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:00:05 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:01:18 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:01:27 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:06:13 -!- removeelyvilon_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:07:11 !messages 13:07:11 No messages for removeelyvilon_. 13:08:24 -!- removeelyvilon_ has quit [Client Quit] 13:13:17 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-774-ga63a580: Equalize "harm/*Drain draining (MarvinPA) 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a63a580261fd 13:13:17 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-775-g990f37b: Fix Harm randarts' descriptions (10515) 10(24 seconds ago, 2 files, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/990f37bf7a2f 13:17:41 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:20:33 -!- DevlanMud|Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:23:00 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:23:22 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:31 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-773-gb44c2ef (34) 13:37:39 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:40:00 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-776-g17b97e5: Make scrolls of random uselessness more useless 10(3 hours ago, 3 files, 4+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/17b97e55154e 13:40:00 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-777-g217381c: Fix some broken miscast effects 10(3 hours ago, 2 files, 4+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/217381c15200 13:40:00 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-778-g094cb3d: Make Air miscast twisters rarer 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 5+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/094cb3db10f7 13:40:00 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-779-g716f58a: Let one of the demons from the Pentagram card sometimes be hostile 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 16+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/716f58a1287e 13:40:00 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-780-g1046fb2: Remove Spellforged Servitor and Battlesphere from pan lord spell lists 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1046fb2b1933 13:40:00 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-781-g1c188b6: Randomise DUR_FROZEN duration 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1c188b6fc468 13:40:00 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-782-g5ea080c: Adjust monster blindness duration 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5ea080c69ed3 13:40:00 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-783-g275e0fd: Add Infestation (L8 Necromancy) to the Necronomicon 10(11 months ago, 15 files, 145+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/275e0fd7dfd7 13:40:00 03Emily02 {MarvinPA} 07* 0.19-a0-784-gc635424: Remove Cure Poison 10(2 days ago, 14 files, 12+ 38-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c635424f1d44 13:41:26 RIP ;_;7 13:41:26 PleasingFungus: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 13:41:29 wow 13:42:41 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:44:12 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:52:34 -!- jefus- has joined ##crawl-dev 13:54:47 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:30 heyo 13:55:31 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:55:51 -!- jeefus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:58:22 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01:36 thank you so much for the random uselessness change 14:07:41 !learn add infestation L8 Necromancy spell in the Necronomicon. Applies the "infested" enchantment to monsters in a smite-targeted radius 2 AoE. Infested creatures explode on death and a (temporary, but long-lived) death scarab bursts out. Affects anything that gives XP. 14:07:42 infestation[1/1]: L8 Necromancy spell in the Necronomicon. Applies the "infested" enchantment to monsters in a smite-targeted radius 2 AoE. Infested creatures explode on death and a (temporary, but long-lived) death scarab bursts out. Affects anything that gives XP. 14:08:37 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-784-gc635424 (34) 14:09:12 !learn edit infestation s/AoE/AoE, for a duration depending on power/ 14:09:13 infestation[1/1]: L8 Necromancy spell in the Necronomicon. Applies the "infested" enchantment to monsters in a smite-targeted radius 2 AoE, for a duration depending on power. Infested creatures explode on death and a (temporary, but long-lived) death scarab bursts out. Affects anything that gives XP. 14:11:54 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:15:09 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:25:03 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:26:35 -!- removeelyvilon_ has quit [Client Quit] 14:27:04 -!- removeelyvilon_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:28:11 Overdrive mode! Dank suggestions: make yellow draconian breath a line like red/white etc. it's pretty underpowered atm 14:28:46 remove the the knockback from grey draconian tail-slap in deep water to further the cause of removing obscure side effects from aux attacks 14:28:52 buff alistair's 14:29:40 that was removed years ago 14:29:41 and show mottled draconian some love. they seem to have the power to change colours so why not Tmut +1 or something 14:29:50 you are way way behind the times, dude 14:29:54 so much worse than red 14:29:56 of extremely bizarre obscure draconian abilities 14:29:59 or anything, really 14:30:30 also, why not make yellow drac breath splash like mottled drac breath? 14:30:36 or that 14:30:47 sounds more distinctive, to me 14:31:14 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:31:34 speaking of tail attakcs why isn't that documented anywhere 14:31:49 "you have a strong tail" offensive or something 14:32:11 acid already has the distinction of being acid imo 14:32:28 as well as being much lower cooldown than other breaths 14:32:51 it deals 0 damage it's only saving grace is that it applies corrosion 14:32:54 lol 14:33:02 its* 14:33:20 why is like useful for the first orc warrior you meet I guess 14:33:24 which* 14:33:46 it has the exact same damage as breathe flame/freezing breath, except with a better damage type 14:34:15 -!- CcS has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:34:46 speaking of freezing breath that flying enemies knockback is obscure too 14:35:16 <|amethys1> yeah, that should be in the Breathe Frost ability description 14:35:47 <|amethys1> ? 14:35:58 <|amethys1> I was misremembering 14:37:09 well okay so everything dr failed 14:37:49 what about alistair's, people seemed to agree with that on tavern before it got troll derailed into a meme of removing poison school 14:37:49 if you're complaining that yellow dracs are underpowered because their breath is too weak, 'it does the same damage as the others but with half the cooldown' is not supporting your case 14:39:02 sure, why not 14:39:52 alistair's is pretty strong in my experience, seems fine to leave as-is especially since it just got added to a starting book 14:40:01 it did? 14:40:18 yes 14:40:20 no, we're lying. 14:40:24 it was actually added to an ending book 14:40:27 <|amethys1> %git :/Cure Pois 14:40:27 07Emily02 {MarvinPA} * 0.19-a0-784-gc635424: Remove Cure Poison 10(2 days ago, 14 files, 12+ 38-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c635424f1d44 14:40:52 who's this 'emily' guy, anyway?? 14:41:47 <|amethys1> Maximum Likelihood Estimation 14:42:08 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14:42:11 good night, guys 14:43:00 fwiw, most drac breaths are very weak, and it's possible that yellow drac could use a buff. i really have no strong opinion on drac colors 14:43:16 if you really wanted to buff yellow drac, it'd probably be simpler to move their acid bite earlier 14:43:23 rather than add new mechanics 14:43:59 <|amethys1> hm 14:44:07 <|amethys1> in _intoxicate_monsters 14:44:50 <|amethys1> why does failing to affect because of clarity count as "affected something" (return 1), but failing to affect because of rP does not (return 0) 14:44:59 <|amethys1> ? 14:45:20 <|amethys1> s/does/is it that/ 14:45:48 sounds like a bug 14:45:50 i imagine the poison check didn't get moved when it was changed to be a chance rather than guaranteed 14:46:11 <|amethys1> re buffing intoxicate 14:46:30 <|amethys1> I would kind of like to remove one or the other of the limitations on what it affects 14:47:33 intelligence 14:47:34 done 14:47:40 <|amethys1> I was thinking holiness actually 14:48:01 ??intoxication 14:48:02 alistair's intoxication[1/1]: L4 Transmutation-Poison spell. Has a (40 + power/3)% (max 73%) chance of confusing each natural, non-poison resistant monster in line of sight with greater than animal intelligence. Has a (60 - power/3)% chance of affecting you, even with rPois, if you do not have a source of clarity. Also drains 1-3 points of intelligence 5% of the time. 14:48:03 <|amethys1> at least let it work on demons 14:48:07 oh, i was thinking you meant rpois 14:48:14 one of the three restrictions 14:48:19 <|amethys1> rPois is fine because it can get through rPois 14:48:31 <|amethys1> it uses monster_resists_this_poison 14:49:00 -!- gammafun1 has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:50:06 -!- |amethys1 is now known as |amethyst 14:50:06 PleasingFungus I think all are fine except mottled which is kinda lacking. +1 to moving acidic bite lower XL 14:50:26 Power Spiral: Drac 14:50:31 fr: power spiral spell 14:50:56 alternately, 'scroll of power spiral' wouldn't be the worst name for the 'mass yara's' i was floating 14:51:13 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:51:53 is there a reason that "got out of the dungeon alive" is still a thing 14:51:59 is it any different from just quitting? 14:52:57 critical for cratecrawl 14:54:07 Zot 5 consists of 3 discoonnected areas 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10522 by Sandman25 14:54:42 okay last thing I bother you with for today: why dr has no gdr. you are a living dragon armour but no gdr 14:55:08 why does anything have gdr? 14:55:19 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-785-gcfb67b6: Update white draconian breath description 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cfb67b698ce0 14:55:24 idk but some things do and some dont 14:55:24 okay. 14:55:27 once you can answer that question, i'll answer yours. 14:55:45 why we haven't removed elyvilon: the dungeon is full of love and there must be a god who controls this powerful energy 14:56:02 a powerful sacrifice 14:56:05 so you see it's for realism 14:56:09 oh speaking of disconnected areas, orc seems like maybe it shouldn't have bubbles any more with only 2 floors 14:56:32 does dragon form still have GDR 14:56:34 because if so that's silly 14:56:43 it's sort of weird to enter orc, clear a tiny bubble, and then do the real orc floor and come back up later for some more tiny bubbles 14:57:40 PleasingFungus maybe to protect from bad rolls against ettins? Im not sure 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:49 minmay dragon form has 34% according to the wiki. so take it with a helping of salt 15:01:07 as i understand it, the intent of GDR was, specifically, to buff heavy armour. later it was applied to a few other sources of AC, fairly haphazardly. 15:01:44 applying GDR to all AC would sort of remove the little justification that GDR has to exist, since the reason it exists is to make AC from heavy armour 'better' than ozo's AC or whatever. 15:02:01 if this sounds stupid, that is because GDR should not exist at all. 15:02:51 gammafunk ely is just as bloodthirsty as any other god 15:03:01 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 15:03:13 yeah GDR sounds kinda weird 15:03:20 no ely isn't, since ely has pacification 15:03:21 sorry 15:03:32 hence we can't remove ely because of the realism factor 15:03:36