00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:50 wow 00:00:52 gammafunk 00:00:57 are you going to take that slam against sif 00:00:59 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=20436&view=unread#unread 00:01:44 Yes 00:02:00 Because of the source 00:02:31 dang 00:04:36 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:04:59 -!- sooheon_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:06:51 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 00:09:01 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:09:17 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-742-g4563caa (34) 00:09:36 -!- miek_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:11:18 -!- miek_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:11:28 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 00:11:53 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:14:12 !tell |amethyst When trying to compile crawl on windows 10 under msys2 using gcc 5.3.0 with 'make debug-lite -j3 USE_PCRE=y EXTERNAL_FLAGS_L=-DDEBUG_STATISTICS' I get: http://dpaste.com/3FP3F5A 00:14:13 gammafunk: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 00:17:50 <|amethyst> gammafunk: odd, that means it's being detected as Cygwin 00:18:42 <|amethyst> gammafunk: all that is inside #ifdef TARGET_COMPILER_CYGWIN 00:19:21 <|amethyst> which is only supposed to be set #if defined (__CYGWIN__) || defined (__CYGWIN32__) 00:20:34 <|amethyst> really the check should be about newlib, or better about the existence of std::to_string 00:22:38 <|amethyst> there's probably some obscene SFINAE shit you can do to actually check for the latter at compile time these days 00:22:50 <|amethyst> which like two people in the world understand 00:25:10 |amethyst: oh, interesting 00:25:34 hrm 00:25:47 so I could use gcc -V to see what was being defined there? 00:26:34 or -v rather 00:26:42 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:27:01 hrm, my target is x86_64-pc-msys 00:28:51 here's my output of gcc -dM -E : http://dpaste.com/3QKCAMZ 00:29:03 it does indeed have __CYGWIN__ 00:29:34 hrm 00:31:02 <|amethyst> I guess we need something like 00:31:34 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:31:55 <|amethyst> #if defined (__MSYS__) \n #define TARGET_COMPILER_MINGW \n #elif defined (__CYGWIN__) || defined (__CYGWIN32__) 00:32:06 <|amethyst> to replace the line 00:32:18 <|amethyst> !source platform.h:154 00:32:18 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/platform.h#l154 00:32:19 that sounds reasonable 00:32:36 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:32:46 shall I try that modification and see if things get fixed? 00:33:21 -!- xnavy_ is now known as xnavy 00:35:58 <|amethyst> hm 00:36:41 <|amethyst> try it but really it *is* based on cygwin 00:37:09 seems to be compiling 00:37:28 got past the file it had failed at before, but I'll let you know if the build completes 00:38:20 <|amethyst> you might run into problems in libw32c.cc 00:38:22 since git for windows sdk is also using msys2 but is compiling without issues 00:38:30 I wonder why this changed 00:38:39 it's an older gcc with that install, I think 00:38:43 <|amethyst> hm 00:38:47 <|amethyst> IIRC 00:38:56 <|amethyst> the problem with missing to_string 00:39:05 well, it did error, just not where you said 00:39:12 CXX ctest.o 00:39:12 crash.cc:43:22: fatal error: execinfo.h: No such file or directory 00:39:12 compilation terminated. 00:40:07 never even heard of that header 00:40:29 hrm, doesn't even exist on my ubuntu system 00:40:33 is it a windows-only thing? 00:40:38 <|amethyst> it's backtrace() 00:40:52 ah, yeah a system header 00:41:09 <|amethyst> which mingw has but I guess cygwin does not 00:41:36 hrm, hence your comment that msys2 is based on cygwin 00:41:41 so we can't just assume it's not cygwin? 00:41:45 <|amethyst> right 00:42:24 I mean, this compiler is still a mingw compile is it not? 00:42:38 <|amethyst> doesn't seem like it 00:42:48 do I have the wrong gcc installed 00:42:57 pacman -Ss gcc seems to indicate it's the right one 00:43:08 there are some toolchain things for mingw 00:43:41 <|amethyst> hm 00:44:00 This is the output of pacman -Ss: http://dpaste.com/36866AH 00:44:13 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:44:18 <|amethyst> gammafunk: msys/ instead of mingw64/ 00:44:32 <|amethyst> means it depends on the msys library, which is a cygwin fork 00:44:46 I installed the mingw64 toolchain stuff initially 00:44:51 but gcc the command wasn't found 00:44:56 until I installed msys/gcc 00:45:17 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:45:27 hrm 00:46:20 Do I want 00:46:21 msys/mingw-w64-cross-gcc 5.3.0-1 (mingw-w64-cross-toolchain mingw-w64-cross) 00:46:21 Cross GCC for the MinGW-w64 00:46:33 <|amethyst> aha, that sounds like what you want 00:46:38 I shall try it 00:46:43 <|amethyst> that said 00:46:53 <|amethyst> it would be nice if we did support building against msys2 00:47:06 yeah, if you can suggest fixes I can certainly test 00:47:41 <|amethyst> oh duh 00:47:50 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:47:51 wonder what the earliest possible version of crawl you could host would be (console and webtiles). buddy in another room asked and I wasn't sure the answer (though I bet it's not too hard to figure out) 00:48:26 <|amethyst> probably 2.72 for console 00:48:42 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:48:46 wow, like linley crawl 2.72? 00:48:49 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:49:02 <|amethyst> I don't know how well it would work on a server 00:49:27 <|amethyst> but crawl-ancient has a branch with 2.72 allegedly made to compile on modern Linux 00:49:55 <|amethyst> "modern" as of several years ago 00:50:00 <|amethyst> CDO has 4.1.2a 00:50:00 someone in sa was asking about that 00:50:08 theoretically, shouldn't any given version compile on modern linux as long as it's not calling on packages that are totally deprecated? 00:50:23 <|amethyst> ProzacElf: only the ones that worked on Linux in the first place 00:50:30 well, ok 00:50:32 that's fair 00:50:48 <|amethyst> let me see 00:51:25 <|amethyst> oh 00:51:36 is crawl-ancient a branch? or a different repo? 00:51:43 <|amethyst> a different repo 00:51:45 ah ok 00:51:46 <|amethyst> ??crawl-ancient 00:51:46 crawl-ancient[1/1]: git://github.com/crawl-ref/crawl-ancient.git contains 2.72, 4.00b26, {4.1}.2alpha, and {crawl alternative} 00:51:52 <|amethyst> ah 00:52:10 <|amethyst> 2.72-lnx was written in pre-standard C++ 00:52:18 <|amethyst> as in #include 00:52:24 I'm sure it would kinda work. I got DF and cataclysm-dda working. 00:52:28 well 00:52:34 <|amethyst> hence the need for a port 00:52:35 hm. nm. I see what you are saying 00:52:48 <|amethyst> you want branch ancient-2.72 00:53:40 <|amethyst> not ancient, even though it has a commit for 2.72, because that doesn't have the fixes to make it compile 00:53:53 lol 00:54:04 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:54:06 "kilobyte: Make the damn thing compile and work (a very crude port)." 00:54:50 does dcss use ncurses still? 00:54:50 i wonder what percentage of 'damn's in DCSS commit messages belongs to kilobyte 00:55:10 -!- FireSight has quit [] 00:55:31 -!- andre_1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:55:39 |amethyst: will I have to use CROSSHOST to compile with this mingw compiler I installed? 00:55:45 %git :/ncurses 00:55:45 07|amethyst02 * 0.19-a0-246-g5bb4cf0: Update Ash bondage on load. 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 6+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5bb4cf025403 00:56:02 <|amethyst> gammafunk: probably? 00:56:41 <|amethyst> %git :/\ 07|amethyst02 * 0.18-a0-1360-g617818c: Use -isystem for ncurses (geekosaur) 10(4 months ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/617818c1bf0e 00:56:45 minmay: 10/12 00:57:14 lol 00:57:28 i got so sick of waiting on ash bondage updates 00:57:29 83% of damns, vs 14% of all commits 00:57:34 now they just happen when i load up 00:57:49 <|amethyst> hm, I got 15 00:58:21 |amethyst: I didn't count "Elyvilon be damned", "most damningly of all", or "I will never escape this damned place" 00:58:35 git log --grep [^d][Dd]amn[^a] and then not counting those three 00:58:44 did you count damnation? 00:58:45 <|amethyst> I only counted \ 00:59:33 ah, your approach seems more effective 00:59:33 <|amethyst> ah 00:59:33 <|amethyst> end of line 00:59:44 <|amethyst> wouldn't be matched by [^a] 00:59:48 yeah, i was wondering 00:59:54 so that puts him at 13/15 01:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:21 damn. 01:00:39 oh interesting. crawl-ancient was just one folder of files 01:00:54 <|amethyst> johnstein: depend on which version you have checked out 01:01:40 <|amethyst> which is kind of annoying if you're doing archaeology, because you need a different path each time you do an older git blame 01:01:47 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:02:18 <|amethyst> but more accurate, because AFAIK it tracks the layout of the original source, which changed several times 01:03:05 <|amethyst> 5/6 instances of \ 01:03:30 i find git blame will occasionally track to older files, but i'm not sure how to reproduce or describe the behavior exactly 01:03:47 <|amethyst> it does track the changes back to older files 01:04:05 <|amethyst> the problem is that when I want to do one version older that what I see for a particular line in git blame 01:04:28 <|amethyst> I issue git blame 0123versionhash^ filename.cc 01:04:54 <|amethyst> but then that doesn't work, because that version didn't have filename.cc in the same location 01:05:49 ok, found the right crosshost target, now to see if it compiles... 01:06:08 after git status finishes, hopefully in the next hour... 01:06:13 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 01:07:05 <|amethyst> gammafunk: oh, for a native msys2 build (which is probably not what we want for distribution), probably you can change that 01:07:09 <|amethyst> #ifdef TARGET_COMPILER_CYGWIN 01:07:10 <|amethyst> to 01:07:43 <|amethyst> #if defined(TARGET_COMPILER_CYGWIN) && !defined(__MSYS__) 01:07:48 <|amethyst> (in stringutil.h) 01:08:50 |amethyst: so I'd not change the other system header file, but would change stringutil.h, to fix the original error? 01:08:58 <|amethyst> yeah 01:08:59 er not system header file, but the platform header 01:09:12 <|amethyst> right 01:09:15 I'm trying a crosshost compile right now 01:09:29 since msys2 is supposed to enable creating windows native binaries 01:09:47 what's going to be the difference between msys2 builds and something like this crosshost I'm doing? 01:10:40 I mean msys2 itself is just the shell/environment and associated packages, but they're all supposed to be windows-native, not requiring execution under any environment, like cygwin does 01:10:43 <|amethyst> practically, requires the msys DLL and not just MSVCRT 01:11:12 <|amethyst> possibly some path-related changes? 01:11:33 <|amethyst> keep in mind, I don't do Windows development and don't really know Windows 01:11:46 yeah, but you understand this stuff better than I regardless 01:11:59 <|amethyst> when I say path issues, that would be more on us 01:12:06 well I'll try the crosshost build after git stash completes (in the next hour, hopefully) 01:12:14 and then can try the stringutil.h fix you mention 01:12:19 <|amethyst> IIRC we treat Cygwin as meaning "use Unix-like paths" 01:13:04 <|amethyst> basically our checks are a mess 01:14:15 can we just remove operating systems already 01:14:30 <|amethyst> well, not a mess exactly, but 01:14:54 <|amethyst> the fact that we have TARGET_COMPILER_CYGWIN and TARGET_COMPILER_MINGW is a little weird 01:15:17 yeah I guess since cygwin is not a compiler 01:15:23 <|amethyst> yeah 01:15:51 <|amethyst> and then we use them for things that are really about the C or C++ library 01:16:06 <|amethyst> e.g. "is to_string missing because of a stupid bug" 01:16:26 <|amethyst> we could throw more stuff into configure I suppose 01:17:23 <|amethyst> oh 01:17:25 <|amethyst> how's this 01:17:54 well 01:17:56 <|amethyst> if you're compiling for something that's not Windows or Cygwin or Linux, and you're on an ARM 01:18:04 crosscompiling failed at a random file 01:18:08 <|amethyst> then obviously your OS is "NDSFIRMWARE" 01:18:13 CXX dgnevent.o 01:18:13 make: *** [Makefile:1617: dgn-overview.o] Error 127 01:18:16 <|amethyst> which I assume is Nintendo DS 01:18:33 Error 127 is a good error imo 01:19:15 maybe I should not enable debug or any other stuff, but that's not a great sign 01:21:10 <|amethyst> might be worth adding V=1, but other than internal compiler error I don't know why you'd get an error with no diagnostics from one file but not another 01:21:39 -!- Mekire has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:22:09 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:22:22 can I simply add V=1 to my make command? 01:24:15 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:25:08 <|amethyst> yeah 01:25:10 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 01:25:12 <|amethyst> that will show the commands 01:26:02 <|amethyst> so you can see if it actually got as far as trying to run g++ on line 1617 or if make got confused 01:26:38 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:26:56 thanks 01:32:23 |amethyst: well I changed my make args and it's got past that file 01:32:33 which doesn't make me any happier really 01:32:48 was using -j3 as well as debug-lite target 01:33:19 maybe I should just try the msys2 native build and be done with it, since building for that other target isn't something we need in any way 01:33:37 I do wonder if it was just the use of -j though, I seem to recall some issues there 01:33:45 maybe I'll try recompiling with the same args but no -j3 01:33:50 scoreboard is back in business, it's updating hourly for CPO players only right now https://crawl.project357.org/scoreboard/index.html 01:34:01 i think we're getting pretty close to a true public release 01:34:07 cool 01:34:11 rather than just occasionally mentioning it here 01:34:20 woah can we change the backround image though 01:34:29 it's like bad dither marble 01:34:53 patches welcome! 01:35:12 i actually quite like it, compared to a plain background. it's low contrast enough to be ignored 01:36:58 unlike literally everything else chequers has ever done, i think the background is fine 01:37:22 wow, unprecedented 01:37:52 I wonder if "Highscores" should be rnamed 01:37:53 *renamed 01:37:57 chequers: "Version: 0.19" is a bit misleading though unless your players are using a time machine 01:38:15 it's kind of like "Achievements" 01:38:16 i guess it is tomorrow in australia, maybe they have 0.19 there already 01:38:43 since it has realtime as well as simply low turncount without regard to score 01:39:20 but that secondary tab is perhaps a bit confusing since it says "Overall" "Species" ... 01:39:51 which is talking about score, then it switches to things not score related with Shortest and Fastest 01:40:08 perhaps Shortest and Fastests could go on their own Achievements tab 01:40:13 along with other things that might get added 01:40:32 these days 'most pacific' isn't too much a thing, is it 01:41:14 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 01:42:17 oh wow. it compiled! 01:42:31 lots of warnings/deprecated stuff 01:43:19 I already miss autoexplore 01:43:36 oh. and arrows/numpad don't work. heh 01:44:28 "You have 23 points of unallocated experience." 01:45:41 -!- Guest9981 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:47:07 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:51:41 I think the compilation issue was related to use of -j 01:51:54 removing only -j3 seems to get it past that file 01:52:04 i don't think we can call it 'achievements' because we're going to add achievements 01:52:24 except probably not called 'achievements' so the more conservative community elements don't have a fit 01:52:45 amalloy: yeah, not sure how to represent trunk versions, any ideas? 01:52:57 chequers: why not just like Sequell does? 01:52:57 amalloy: i think '0.19-a' is really obtuse, if you're going to suggest that 01:53:30 call it 0.19-unstable if you want, or -trunk 01:54:07 maybe -trunk 01:54:14 or even -prealpha to spell it out?! 01:54:50 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:55:11 chequers: I don't know why you think people would object to the word achievement if you add achievements 01:55:14 what are you working on chequers? 01:56:36 yeah sequell has a field 01:56:37 johnstein: linked above 01:56:38 !kw alpha 01:56:38 Built-in: alpha => alpha=true 01:56:52 and a major version field 01:57:01 oh oops. missed it. ty 01:57:09 so 0.19-a has alpha=true, and I think 0.18-a should as well 01:57:17 !lg * cv=0.18-a x=alpha 01:57:18 418013. [alpha=true] LORDOFBUTT the Skirmisher (L3 MiFi), quit the game on D:2 on 2016-06-15 10:28:26, with 48 points after 731 turns and 0:01:35. 01:57:20 yeah 01:57:28 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:58:05 -!- yesno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:58:42 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:58:43 so you suggest instead of one column for version, have two: version and "release status" {alpha,beta,final} 01:58:47 ? 01:59:05 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest83712 01:59:12 I think if you did it this way, it'd be alpha and stable 01:59:29 since for scoring/cheevo purposes beta == stable 01:59:50 although that's not precisely true, it seems true enough that the simplification is good 01:59:56 !kw beta 01:59:57 No keyword 'beta' 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:13 yeah sequell doesn't have a notion of anything other than alpha and stable, I think 02:00:26 even though we do tag for beta, sequell doesn't see it as anything but alpha 02:01:08 I think the states might have to be something like alpha/stable/any ? 02:01:39 I'm not sure how this has to work for you on the database side nor on the interface side, but often people are interested in alpha+stable for a specific version 02:01:53 yeah 02:02:05 the simplest way would just be to count alpha and stable together, and only offer version 02:02:28 which would be nice enough to have on its own, compared to what we have now, which is nothing other than a static column 02:03:11 right now we only track 0.x, but changing that isn't too hard 02:03:38 (and we normalise all versions to 0.x) 02:04:16 are you going to make it possible to see pages filtered by version somehow? or is this just for what to display in columns? 02:04:31 yeah, that's a definite goal 02:07:46 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:11:02 oh no! it compile but failed to link! 02:11:21 LINK crawl.exe 02:11:21 /opt/lib/gcc/x86_64-w64-mingw32/5.3.0/../../../../x86_64-w64-mingw32/lib/../lib/libwinmm.a: error adding symbols: File in wrong format 02:11:24 collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status 02:11:43 |amethyst: does the above mean anything to you? 02:11:54 I'm going to try the msys2 build now 02:13:24 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:20:09 -!- Guest83712 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:21:05 'highscores' title doesn' 02:21:09 doesn't describe its page perfectly 02:21:18 as it includes real-time and shortest wins etc 02:21:28 but it is tricky to come up with a general enough title 02:22:13 the alternative is to pull out the non-highscores into their own page, but right now they'd be pretty lonely with only shortest and fastest wins 02:22:56 keeping it as is might be 'good enough' for now 02:24:33 sure it's no major issue or anything 02:24:36 just a minor bug 02:24:55 ontoclasm: by the way, if you feel included to update the XXX spell icon to use your great new tmons tile, please do so 02:25:51 oh, hm 02:25:53 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:25:55 i forgot about it 02:26:39 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:27:52 ??xxx 02:27:52 summon horrible things[1/1]: Level 8 summoning spell, produces large abominations and tentacled monstrosities. Has a 1/5 chance to drain intelligence by 1d3 points (1d2 in 0.15). Tentacled monstrosites and abominations have separate summons caps. Affectionately known as XXX. 02:29:09 Well, I do think shortest / fastest is a type of highscore 02:29:18 does it still drain int? i thought that got removed 02:29:21 You forgot about XXX! 02:29:24 yes it does 02:29:27 less than it used to though 02:29:33 all the tabs except overall slice the data in some, arbitrary way 02:30:05 chequers: well it's a high score in the most general sense of a score, but score is going to make people think of one thing in crawl, primarily 02:30:15 and it's not a high score in that sense at all for those categories 02:30:36 tbf for lowest turncount it's a high score if you require urune=3 02:30:43 yeah, fair 02:30:44 since lower turncount will give you a higher score 02:30:53 but for realtime it's not that at all, at least not directly 02:30:59 but yeah that's not major at all 02:31:17 biggest goal is to get streak logic workin again 02:31:27 then zxc can be happy he is #1 and we can launch :D 02:31:41 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:31:59 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest72125 02:33:00 |amethyst: with the stringutil.h fix, I get this now: 02:33:01 CXX initfile.o 02:33:01 initfile.cc: In function ‘std::string _find_executable_path()’: 02:33:01 initfile.cc:4291:66: error: ‘readlink’ was not declared in this scope 02:33:01 readlink("/proc/self/exe", tempPath, sizeof(tempPath) - 1); 02:33:21 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:33:34 this is with a native msys2 compilation 02:41:44 -!- Demise_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:43:25 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:44:57 @??tentacled_monstrosity 02:44:58 tentacled monstrosity (03X) | Spd: 10 | HD: 23 | HP: 104-149 | AC/EV: 5/5 | Dam: 22, 17, 13, 903(constrict) | 05demonic, 10doors, amphibious, unholy, see invisible | Res: 06magic(160), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 2962 | Sz: Giant | Int: human. 02:45:21 @??large abomination 02:45:21 large abomination (04X) | Spd: 6-12 | HD: 11 | HP: 42-58 | AC/EV: 11/5 | Dam: 40 | 07undead, evil, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(100), 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 340 | Sz: Big | Int: brainless. 02:45:27 @??large abomination 02:45:27 large abomination (04X) | Spd: 6-12 | HD: 11 | HP: 42-58 | AC/EV: 11/5 | Dam: 40 | 07undead, evil, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(100), 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 340 | Sz: Big | Int: brainless. 02:45:28 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:46:01 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:48:44 -!- Guest72125 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:50:19 -!- Insomniak has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 02:54:23 does anything have holy+ vuln? 02:54:29 and does anything have holy resist? 02:54:31 @??daeva 02:54:31 daeva (08A) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 98-135 | AC/EV: 10/11 | Dam: 25, 10 | 08holy, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(140), 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 08holy | XP: 1868 | Sp: smiting (7-17) [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 02:55:11 hm, but holy brand does nothing to normal monsters, how does that logic work 02:55:21 holy works if you are vulnerable, and not at all otherwise? 02:55:28 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/xxx.png 02:55:31 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:55:42 how's that 02:56:33 nice 02:57:17 disappointed it's not bottle of booze 02:57:26 :Y 02:57:38 all the aboms and tmons are actually just your imagination 02:58:33 -!- Leszczynek has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 02:58:53 hallucinations are back 02:59:39 -!- debo__ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:01:05 -!- destrovel has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:02:41 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.19-a0-743-ge0d55e4: Summon Horrible Things tile 10(29 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e0d55e4bd0d2 03:04:16 -!- debo__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:12:07 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-743-ge0d55e4 (34) 03:16:08 -!- XVar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:16:24 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:20:01 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:26:09 finally python is like c++ 03:26:11 !tell Lasty_ should usk paralysis affect freed slaves? i would have thought no, but it did 03:26:12 amalloy: OK, I'll let lasty_ know. 03:26:18 I just added a type hint of Iterable[Tuple[Player,Iterable[Game]]] 03:31:14 !tell Lasty_ why can't i line pass through an invisible enemy? when i try, an empty line is printed for some reason as well 03:31:14 amalloy: OK, I'll let lasty_ know. 03:31:15 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:32:05 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:36:35 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:38:22 ontoclasm: cool, nice how you made its tentacles all lined up 03:38:38 A well-groomed tmons is a happy tmons 03:42:39 hah 03:46:45 -!- XVar has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:47:04 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 03:47:05 The build has errored. 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(www.adiirc.com)] 08:58:33 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:07:47 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:12:06 -!- trckry has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:14:40 -!- Idolo has quit [] 09:25:27 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 09:28:28 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:31:28 -!- syraine has left ##crawl-dev 09:33:14 -!- syraine has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:36:10 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:40:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:54:33 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:57:40 -!- JimmahDean is now known as Guest35126 09:57:41 -!- Guest35126 has quit [Killed (orwell.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:02:35 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:07:07 -!- Rast has joined ##crawl-dev 10:07:23 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:10:12 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:10:28 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:19:03 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:20:25 -!- gressup_ is now known as gressup 10:39:05 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:11 -!- Demise_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:40:54 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:47:20 -!- sky___ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:47:43 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 10:50:13 You guys still use mantis for bug tracking? 10:50:50 Also have any of you guys had success setting up / configuring VS Community and developing on DCSS? 10:54:32 -!- FireSight has quit [] 10:59:40 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:04:01 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:07:15 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:12:11 -!- PsyMar has quit [Quit: witty quit message goes here] 11:12:46 -!- 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23 07:38:37 2016 UTC (8h 8m 49s ago) saying 'A well-groomed tmons is a happy tmons' on ##crawl-dev. 11:48:52 -!- Schattenjager has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:54:24 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:54:24 -!- Gobbo has quit [Client Quit] 11:54:52 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:55:13 New branch created: pull/304 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/304 11:55:13 03Bsmalley7902 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/304 * 0.18-a0-1221-g9521030: Merge pull request #1 from crawl/master 10(5 months ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/952103024768 11:58:04 -!- doll has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:58:50 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01:37 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:01:45 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:11:17 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:26 -!- bunge has quit [Ping timeout: 250 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created: pull/305 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/305 13:06:53 03ChrisOelmueller02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/305 * 0.19-a0-744-g9d5edec: Don't mislabel DUR_LOWERED_MR status as MR- in HUD 10(15 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9d5edecd3b52 13:08:13 03ChrisOelmueller02 07* 0.19-a0-744-g9d5edec: Don't mislabel DUR_LOWERED_MR status as MR- in HUD 10(16 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9d5edecd3b52 13:08:13 03PleasingFungus02 {GitHub} 07* 0.19-a0-745-g08eaed9: Merge pull request #305 from ChrisOelmueller/patch-2 10(7 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/08eaed9020e5 13:14:14 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:16:11 -!- FunkyBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:20:38 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:22:24 -!- Kenran has quit [Client Quit] 13:25:15 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:34:35 -!- 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currently on the github repo 13:53:15 I'm using an old teletype vt100 terminal 13:53:20 over rs-232 13:53:25 so, no tiles, no audio 13:54:21 every time i try to compile i'm getting errors. went through install.txt to see if i was doing something obviously wrong... 13:55:28 from the makefile, it seems that if I don't want audio or tiles, i should NOT do `make TILES=n SOUND=n` as by passing in and defining those arguments will actually make them compile, yes? 13:55:54 so, by issuing a lone `make` command i should get just a ascii build 13:56:11 noisevoid, Yes, do you have all the dependencies installed (they're all listed in install) 13:56:40 i did apt-get the dependencies listed, all except the last 5 which were for tiles/graphics 13:56:53 noisevoid: I'm not the best person to help with compilation but I can confirm that a lone 'make' should be right 13:56:53 let me give you the exact error i'm getting, one sec... 13:57:04 ok, thank you for confirming that 13:57:05 Pastebin it if its longer than a line 13:57:12 plz 13:57:57 cc1plus: error: unrecognized command line option b-std=c++11b 13:58:21 then right after that... 13:58:42 Makefile:134: recipe for target `tool/tile_colour.o` failed 13:59:03 and that's in [build-rltiles] 13:59:52 -!- Tedronai has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:10 i'm not really a c developer, i've only ever compiled from source a handful of times, and this is a sufficiently complicated build it seems like, so I figured I'd just ask you kind folks in here 14:00:19 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:00:48 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:02:45 Whats your g++ --version 14:02:50 noisevoid: first result for googling your error: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14674597/cc1plus-error-unrecognized-command-line-option-std-c11-with-g 14:02:50 PleasingFungus: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 14:03:50 hmm 14:05:10 alternately, it might be possible to compile a pre-c++11 version of the game, like (iirc) 0.14? 14:06:18 eh, i'm doing all this because i want to try the newest version 14:07:42 i figured 14:07:46 worth suggesting! 14:07:47 sorry if this seems really basic, but I'm not really sure how to use the info from that SO post 14:07:48 sorry 14:07:50 ;_: 14:08:03 the problem here is that your compiler is very old. 14:08:09 am i supposed to edit my makfile or something? 14:08:12 oh 14:08:12 no. 14:08:17 can you run "g++ --version"? 14:08:36 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-745-g08eaed9 (34) 14:08:38 man, i just did an upgrade via the package manager before even pulling the repo... 14:08:53 4.6.3 14:08:55 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 14:09:05 ah. yeah, you need 4.7, per that post. 14:09:42 this DietPi distro is stale as a motherfucker. I should have figured it was the package manifests being stale that caused this 14:09:42 -_- 14:09:51 googling around suggests you can do things ilke "sudo apt-get install gcc-4.9 g++-4.9" 14:10:06 and then maybe alias that to g++, i guess 14:10:18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EabkMaJ-3nk here's someone else doing 4.7 14:11:25 yeah, my package manager doesnt know what to do 14:11:31 i'll see if i can get this going 14:11:35 thanks for the help, man 14:11:37 :D 14:11:47 np 14:11:49 google is your friend! 14:16:48 fuck, could this be because wheezy/main sources is throwing a 404 when i try to run apt-get update? 14:17:02 i should have just installed raspbian, goddamnit 14:17:21 there's actually a few apt repositories that are unreachable 14:17:26 PleasingFungus: did you hack my microwave? it keeps flashing PF 14:17:38 B) 14:18:17 (they threw me out of ##dad-jokes so now i have to get my jollies in here) 14:19:05 hi, dad jokes 14:19:07 i'm pf. 14:19:41 -!- olscumpy has joined ##crawl-dev 14:20:46 huzzah, installing gcc/g++ 4.7 right meow 14:20:54 thanks pf 14:22:29 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:32:46 hmm... getting same error still 14:34:11 oh wait, hold on, i didn't apply the update-alternatives thing 14:34:29 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:34:52 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 14:36:57 -!- JimmahDean has quit [] 14:38:16 nope, still getting exactly the same error 14:38:52 -!- olscumpy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:42:46 prediction: your 'g++' is still using the old version 14:42:56 run g++ --version again 14:45:19 did you look at the video i sent? 14:49:32 -!- olscumpy has joined ##crawl-dev 14:51:37 so, while I'm not on a raspberry, g++ is *not* part of the alternatives system. c++ is. 14:51:41 i watched the video, and `g++ --version` outputs (Debian 4.7.2-5+rpi1) 4.7.2 14:51:55 oh, neat 14:52:10 (c++ being provided by g++ in my current configuration) 14:52:43 hm. geekosaur, as the build and rasp pi expert, you should take over w/the build debugging here. 14:52:51 waaaaat 14:52:56 thank you for volunteering! 14:53:00 your service is appreciate.d 14:53:05 * geekosaur knows *-all about rasp. that was 1kb :p 14:53:05 * Sequell also knows *-all about rasp. that was 1kb :p 14:53:25 details! 14:53:36 you probably use a linux, or have in the past, right? I figure that's good enough 14:53:49 as a humble mac user, i know nothing of these strange 'debians' and 'apt-gets'... 14:54:10 i accidentally my whole linux 14:54:23 I know debian fairly well. rpi debian is claimed to be a bit weird though 14:54:33 should bai suzhen leave a storm dragon hide, she's not really a storm dragon 14:55:07 her True Form is a dragon, but not exactly a storm dragon 14:55:13 and water dragon armour definitely can't be a thing imo, before someone suggests it! 14:55:16 i mean, she shouldn't leave a drac corpse 14:55:18 haha 14:55:23 provides rDrown 14:56:02 -!- newbie|3 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:56:25 i suppose if thematically it's a transformation she could shapeshift back 14:56:57 or just have plain dragon as her species and leave "the dragon corpse of bai suzhen" 14:57:07 well if it's a transformation it should change back to a drac corpse like other transformed monsters right 14:57:09 [23 18:53] as a humble mac user, i know nothing of these strange 'debians' and 'apt-gets'... 14:57:15 never used fink, I take it? :p 14:57:23 yeah transforming back when killed sounds consistent with other monsters to me 14:57:24 i honestly don't even know what that is! 14:57:45 MarvinPA: elliptic: no, what i was saying is: she thematically *starts* transformed, and then eventually reverts when injured to her True Form 14:57:58 -!- flappity_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:58:00 so, thematically, she should *not* leave a drac corpse 14:58:02 it's a third party package manager (fink, macports, and homebrew are the main ones) 14:58:18 uh oh, Important Lore 14:58:24 also i really wonder what happens when you butcher a 'dragon' corpse. 14:58:25 the flavour cost... 14:58:35 i suspect you probably can't even make one at present 14:58:39 since you'd have to be able to zombify it 14:58:47 dummy monsters 14:59:10 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:59:23 !send PleasingFungus a tauntaun 14:59:23 Sending a tauntaun to PleasingFungus. 14:59:47 not sure what to make of that one 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:05 just the butchering corpses thing? 15:00:59 sooo... after i do a failed build with make, i'm supposed to do `make clean`, right? 15:01:04 -!- halv has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:01:33 you shouldn't have to with our makefile, but it won't hurt 15:01:40 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:01:53 PleasingFungus: in that case maybe it is a bug that she leaves a draconian corpse if she is killed before transforming! (yes I know this isn't easy to do) 15:02:02 elliptic: i think that might be very easy to fix, actually 15:02:22 could just change her species to storm dragon (or w/e) 15:02:41 draconians are touchy, fragile beasts, but that might work? 15:02:45 also storm dragon sounds reasonable enough to me, doesn't she make storm clouds 15:03:23 -!- simples has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:03:30 she breathes water though, and has non-storm dragon resists! 15:03:33 even if she isn't a normal storm dragon she can still be related 15:03:33 she is a storm dragon but not a @??storm dragon 15:03:50 xtahua does non-fire dragon things and still drops a fire dragon hide 15:03:52 vault tag her 'eastern storm dragon' 15:04:12 some kind of witchcraft while generating corpses 15:04:16 :P 15:04:53 she's a bit more different than xtahua/fire dragon but that does seem fair, in that it's nice for the solution to be "do nothing" 15:05:07 still getting `cc1plus: error: unrecognized command line option b-std=c++11b` 15:05:14 less effort than figuring out what breaks if i mess with her species! 15:05:25 oh, i'm definitely messing with her species 15:05:42 hrm, wish |amethyst was around for these build issues. 15:05:46