00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:42 chequers: want to see my latest artistic masterpiece 00:03:02 looks like my sasl stuff works with AWS 00:03:08 chequers: http://67.media.tumblr.com/5bc2014adfcbe19cc0a293ab23fc3531/tumblr_o7v4h11XWU1r5a4ujo1_1280.jpg http://67.media.tumblr.com/28680bf8d19dedfe201eae6b4515cb5d/tumblr_inline_o93gb9Qh9y1s16gi9_1280.jpg 00:03:32 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-722-g27ac516 (34) 00:03:55 minmay: i think you're a few years late to superfood jokes 00:04:01 or is it an icefrog joke 00:05:02 chequers: apricot kernels are a pretty recent thing, now that selling pure cyanide as a drug is illegal 00:05:06 in the U.S. 00:06:27 -!- regret-index has left ##crawl-dev 00:07:52 when will Icefrog be joining the dev team 00:08:17 !commit Firestorm now has 3 charges (400 AUT CD) 00:08:18 03nikheizen ⛐ 0.19-a0-179-g55efe2f: Firestorm now has 3 charges (400 AUT CD) 10(in the future, 2 files, 873+ 975-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=55efe2f 00:10:16 -!- debo__ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:10:31 nikheizen: three charges? did you also add agh's 00:11:36 -!- destroythecore has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:12:04 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 00:16:20 shrapnel shot, that one revision of blink strike, etc. etc. 00:18:52 -!- debo__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:19:32 nikheizen: Icefrog would have to track down and defeate frogbotherer first 00:19:38 *defeat 00:21:05 -!- eb_ has quit [] 00:22:48 ?/icefrog 00:22:49 No matches. 00:23:18 ?/Frogbo the Rer 00:23:19 No matches. 00:23:21 -!- Amphouse has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:23:30 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:24:16 03regret-index02 07* 0.19-a0-723-g16b73b3: Once more, wide minor vault edits 10(2 minutes ago, 11 files, 198+ 209-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/16b73b3d1ffe 00:27:17 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:28:20 Once more, unto the des 00:30:59 i feel like urug is a bit less threatening than donald 00:31:01 @??donald 00:31:01 Donald (02@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 68-98 | AC/EV: 12/6 | Dam: 26 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, amphibious | Res: 06magic(100), 12drown | XP: 1778 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:31:02 @??urug 00:31:02 Urug (05o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 9 | HP: 56-75 | AC/EV: 8/12 | Dam: 25 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter | Res: 06magic(40) | XP: 836 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:31:15 hm, not as big a difference as i thought 00:34:08 donald is quite a bit stronger 00:34:29 MR and a monster shield 00:34:47 !fight donald v urug 00:34:54 rip fight tv 00:35:09 monster shields... 00:35:28 anyway, idk how much urug will stand out from the rest of the ambush crowd 00:35:32 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:35:44 PleasingFungus: one notable difference is that urug has javs, which can hurt 00:35:48 donald has no ranged 00:36:05 but other than that I guess it's probably down to armour/shield/weapon, yeah 00:36:19 I feel I tend to see donald in situations where he's less relevant than urug 00:36:19 a wand of paralysis or confusion will completely nullify Urug's javelins though 00:36:34 he just shows up earlier is all 00:36:37 wiht zero evo? whats the chance? 00:36:38 whereas urug's threatened me a bit more often 00:36:49 at mr 40 probably a decent enough chance 00:36:57 yeah by the time donald shows up he's kind of a chump 00:37:01 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:37:23 I don't think I've ever had a donald fight where he was threatening in any way, despite the fact that he could have distortion or something 00:38:55 I don't super love either unique, I guess, but I'm pretty sure if we removed donald we'd all have to go into hiding 00:39:15 it is illegal to remove donald 00:39:16 ...where we'd get to read some truly great salty posts on various websites 00:39:17 i repeat my fr to make donald like boris 00:39:31 but, regardless, donald places quite a lot later 00:39:38 you want to fight a bad unique over and over? 00:39:49 ...and scale his HD 00:39:49 I mean, boris ood could maybe kill you..maybe.... 00:39:59 don't think scaling his HD would help 00:40:02 since he has no spells 00:40:19 I mean you could make swol donald, but you'd need something more than that 00:40:19 !source end 00:40:20 1/18. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dungeon.h#l83 00:40:30 donald is lair branches, crypt (!!!), slime (!!!!!), vaults... and also elf and orc 00:40:35 -!- regret-index has joined ##crawl-dev 00:40:36 he probably should not be in crypt or slime. 00:40:42 but... donald lines 00:40:44 yeah just so he can have cool monspeak, probably 00:40:45 give donald blade barrier and shield charge 00:40:48 that's what luring is for 00:40:58 he has lines for zot, but we don't have to spawn him there! 00:40:59 @??rupert 00:40:59 Rupert (04@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 100-144 | AC/EV: 7/8 | Dam: 21 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, see invisible | Res: 06magic(100) | XP: 2921 | Sp: paralyse, confuse, berserker rage [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:41:03 hrm, donald lich in crypt? slime donald in jelly? (pay me if you use these ideas) 00:41:08 hmm, bad example 00:41:43 I could get behind the idea of like donals as this unique that gets turned into something like any branch where he generates but 00:41:50 that's terrible and MPA would remove it 00:42:19 donald is another adventurer- though I suppose any guaranteed consumables would be easy to burn out or teleport away from once outside of wands 00:42:28 maybe he can be a rival that shows up in some small % of games, and you have to fight him a few times in that game 00:42:51 "I'll be back...!", Donald yells as he vanishes in a puff of smoke 00:43:02 that'd be only half the gimmick though 00:43:07 man, map code is so hairy 00:43:10 what's the part that makes subsequent fights interesting 00:43:31 that he comes back 00:43:33 "now I have a shield of poison resistance! Ha!" 00:43:52 yeah see my question above 00:43:54 preserving that he's a fighter, merge him and wiglaf 00:44:08 if you kill him with hexes, he gets more MR, fire magic, rF+, ranged weapons, he gets a blink-close spell 00:44:22 there, the hard part is done, now you just have to code it 00:44:23 yw 00:44:23 transdimensional helldonald 00:44:31 using haste and might? i hate that. 00:44:58 "What's the point of these spells? I should have been a berserker." 00:45:11 !killratio donald * snake recent 00:45:23 they're invos! from oka! clearly, he hates finesse and heroism. 00:45:33 donald wins 0.119% of battles against * (snake recent). 00:45:41 good job don 00:47:28 !killratio donald * recent 00:47:32 donald wins 0.553% of battles against * (recent). 00:47:41 is there a kw for lairbranch? 00:47:45 !killratio donald * recent lairbranch 00:47:47 !killratio donald * lab 00:47:49 donald wins 0.169% of battles against * (recent lairbranch). 00:47:52 donald wins 10.63% of battles against * (lab). 00:47:56 !killratio donald * recent d 00:48:00 donald wins 1.525% of battles against * (recent d). 00:48:00 ! 00:48:03 heh 00:48:13 looks like everywhere his unique.des builder places him is way too late 00:48:15 which is not shocking 00:48:15 !lg * recent lab killer!=minotaur 00:48:16 343. rgaf the Thaumaturge (L11 DrCj of Vehumet), blasted by a gargoyle (stone arrow) (kmap: nicolae_lab_diamond) in a Labyrinth on 2016-06-20 03:35:46, with 12352 points after 16186 turns and 0:46:57. 00:48:22 time to fit donald into volcanos 00:48:25 and ice caves 00:48:29 !lg * recent lab killer!=minotaur kmap= 00:48:37 139. Gerad the Cleaver (L11 HONe of Makhleb), mangled by a hill giant (a +0 giant spiked club) (summoned by a minotaur) in a Labyrinth (labyrinth_watery) on 2016-06-16 17:27:32, with 7030 points after 13609 turns and 0:41:54. 00:48:46 being killed by flame and freezing clouds before the player even encounters me? I hate that. 00:48:50 !killratio wiglaf * current 00:49:05 wiglaf wins 0.574% of battles against * (current). 00:49:15 !killratio asterion * newasterion 00:49:18 asterion wins 2.637% of battles against * (newasterion). 00:49:34 improved a bit probably, but still a small sample 00:49:44 .169% is... bad 00:50:07 !lg * recent lairbranch ikiller=donald 00:50:07 14. Terandir the Severer (L14 MiFi of Cheibriados), slain by Donald (a +1 scimitar of freezing) on Spider:1 on 2016-04-25 21:27:55, with 66918 points after 15730 turns and 0:40:37. 00:50:19 @??saint roka 00:50:19 Saint Roka (12o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 173-235 | AC/EV: 13/7 | Dam: 35 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, priest, evil | Res: 06magic(80) | Vul: 08holy | XP: 4966 | Sp: battlecry [11!AM], smiting (7-17) [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:50:20 !lm * recent lairbranch uniq=donald 00:50:22 8264. [2016-06-21 04:40:00] GordonOverkill the Bludgeoner (L17 MuBe of Trog) killed Donald on turn 38613. (Snake:1) 00:50:23 @??donald 00:50:23 Donald (02@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 68-98 | AC/EV: 12/6 | Dam: 26 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, amphibious | Res: 06magic(100), 12drown | XP: 1778 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:50:33 !killratio saint_roka * recent 00:50:44 @??wiglaf 00:50:44 Wiglaf (09g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 17 | HP: 116-156 | AC/EV: 11/6 | Dam: 30 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest | Res: 06magic(120) | XP: 1821 | Sp: might [11!AM], haste [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:50:51 saint_roka wins 4.056% of battles against * (recent). 00:51:36 I'm still leaning towards donalaf 00:52:21 !killratio wiglaf * br!~Depths|Vaults 00:52:25 wiglaf wins 1.379% of battles against * (br!~Depths|Vaults). 00:52:38 I don't see a problem with giving don haste+might and removing wiggie 00:52:48 would you give him the rest of wiggle's stats? 00:52:54 hp, mainly 00:53:00 also, which placement set would you use? 00:53:12 this is when I would just let r-i do everything 00:53:18 lol 00:53:55 -!- regret-index has left ##crawl-dev 00:54:07 curses 00:56:25 -!- regret-index has joined ##crawl-dev 00:56:54 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:57:41 my actual first hesitation beyond "just throw the book onto him and throw him into lair branches / vaults / orcelf" is that a Whole Bunch of speech lines should be altered regarding gods and oka, I guess 00:57:47 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:58:05 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:58:08 does he need to become an okaite? 00:58:35 hrm 00:58:37 @??maud 00:58:37 Maud (05@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 13 | HP: 96-136 | AC/EV: 9/7 | Dam: 32 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter | Res: 06magic(80) | XP: 1739 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:58:43 i do like the idea of uniques having gods 00:58:52 you can't do that to donald, though. 00:58:53 make the gods more than a random early game choice, even if only slightly 00:58:55 it's not right... 00:59:02 sure 00:59:04 -!- yesno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:59:10 I do suppose it picks up problems (inaccuracy, flavour bias) at the same time it gets benefits (representation) 00:59:39 honestly, my approach would just be to move donald earlier 00:59:57 then you lose all the lines D: 01:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:06 well donald has some pretty nice gear 01:00:15 donald has a *lot* of lines 01:00:26 he'd be a bigger threat, but it could mean better drops for people 01:00:31 that does incentivize killing him, I guess 01:00:48 sounds like another bonus 01:00:48 my bias is wiglaf is a lesser indefinite problem anyway :P 01:00:59 maybe donald wants to die 01:02:58 grim! 01:03:32 i kind of feel like just replacing maud with donald 01:03:42 at terrible risk of destroying all of chequers good unique gender work! 01:03:56 (obviously that's what Zomaka is for (not that zomaka is getting added)) 01:03:57 just make uniques random gender per-game 01:03:59 problem solved 01:04:42 wasn't that what bai suzhen was for 01:05:17 I do suppose maud is also very bland 01:06:47 how's the new lava tiles look 01:06:59 hard to 8) remember her 01:07:06 CanOfWorms: the bright ones? 01:07:09 yeah 01:07:11 do you have a zip or something i could use? 01:07:22 i'd prefer not to download them from imgur one-by-one... 01:07:31 does imgur not have an album download option? 01:07:39 hrm 01:07:46 do you have the album link lying around? 01:07:47 in any case I can upload a zip if it doesn't 01:07:49 http://imgur.com/a/FXCj5 01:08:06 does your zip have the images named? 01:08:37 maud would have been cool if anterax somehow could exist and have some neat interation 01:08:42 but no good idea how to make that a thing 01:09:13 yeah 01:09:22 like a dancing weapon unique, the dowan to maud's duvessa 01:09:23 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-723-g16b73b3 (34) 01:09:54 rip terpsichore, I guess 01:10:01 -!- deltaromeo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:10:10 she lives on in inspiration 01:10:12 renaming all these is gonna be a pita... 01:10:16 all these lava tiles 01:10:20 I'll send the zip then :v 01:10:25 ty! 01:10:41 New branch created: pull/302 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/302 01:10:41 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/302 * 0.19-a0-723-g13792cc: Weight temple map selection by altar count. 10(7 minutes ago, 2 files, 147+ 60-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/13792ccea620 01:12:28 ugh, I have to rephrase so much of my essay >_> 01:14:32 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 01:14:40 https://www.dropbox.com/s/lcl0wqqzsemiv3h/lava.zip?dl=0 01:15:01 chequers: "This crawl 01:15:01 manage two things separately:" did you a word? 01:15:25 oops 01:16:15 maybe "This commit manages two things separately:"? 01:16:35 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:16:59 nearly, the code does 01:17:14 CanOfWorms: ty! 01:20:22 http://i.imgur.com/kntZo51.png 01:21:03 searing 01:23:47 well, it's noticeably different at least 01:24:34 sure 01:27:45 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-724-g04d1648: Open lava tiles (CanOfWorms) 10(28 seconds ago, 22 files, 21+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/04d1648dec8d 01:28:49 oh, come on, the announcement message is repeated even when it's placing only one vault? 01:30:22 you need domino tiling for lava 01:31:31 !!! 01:33:03 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:33:26 pf: probably want to delete those 4 other lava images ;v 01:34:35 oops 01:35:19 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-725-g9eb61c3: Delete unused lava sea tiles 10(10 seconds ago, 4 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9eb61c3199e6 01:38:51 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:39:05 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 01:43:38 fr: novice temples, journeyman temples, veteran temples 01:44:22 featherweight temples 01:51:12 -!- lordfrikk has joined ##crawl-dev 01:56:59 chequers: your editor is too misconfigured to fight recklessly! https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/302/files#diff-493baaa20ce0c5a9d326870f03129e5aR153 01:58:11 chequers: I'm running the various beem instances on an AWS now, but it turns out that freenode will only let me have 5 active authenticated logins under an account 01:58:32 chequers: So I've taken beem cpo offline, with the idea that maybe you can run that one 01:59:16 chequers: I can give you a copy of the user db and the config I use (will be missing the IRC login, but you can make one yourself) 01:59:55 chequers: On the webtiles side, I think you'd just want to reset the password for beem on cpo and use that login, or you could just use a different login if you like 02:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:34 chequers: the beem repo is all up to date with sasl support merged, so if you follow the install instructions you should be good, but let me know if you have questions 02:00:36 gammafunk: you can ask freenode and they wil whitelist your ip 02:01:11 maybe so, but I'm not sure about this exact setup 02:01:11 I'm going to give it time to see if there are any issues 02:01:12 i mean, I can run it if you insist, but I'd rather you can, since you can keep it up to date 02:01:23 -!- Zeor1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:01:33 well sure, I can bring cpo beem back later after things settle 02:02:07 ace, thanks 02:02:19 cpo doesn't really have many beem users so it's nbd 02:02:29 could you share a single freenode account between all servers, btw? 02:02:32 just wanted to get the busy servers online and get it all off my comp 02:02:34 !source _autoinscribe_floor_items 02:02:35 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/items.cc#l122 02:02:37 yeah it is doing that 02:02:42 just with nicks grouped to the account 02:02:55 but freenode won't let more than five concurrent authentications happen 02:03:03 gotcha 02:03:18 either that or it's more than five irc connections from a single server 02:03:35 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:03:49 maybe it's from a single server on a flagged network like AWS 02:03:51 that would make sense 02:04:49 ^vps 02:04:50 CBRO disk usage=87% | RAM usage=23% | uptime/CPU= 02:04:48 up 585 days, 11:23, 2 users, load average: 0.70, 1.24, 1.28 02:05:09 can't really whitelist me anyhow since this is a free instance with no dedicated IP 02:05:19 and I'd probably not use a dedicated IP when I can host for free! 02:05:46 -!- FireSight has quit [] 02:06:58 :) 02:07:12 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:07:37 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 02:08:32 looks like there's just 5 cpo users, so I'll probably just leave cpo offline if/until I upgrade the instance and can find a way around that 5-connection thing 02:08:48 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-725-g9eb61c3 (34) 02:10:36 ok 02:10:46 what do you mean by 5 cpo users? 5 subscribers? 02:10:57 hm, just realized i used mprf instead of mpr 02:10:58 oops 02:11:10 yeah 5 subscribers 02:11:58 I should really do some crawl things that don't have to do with bots 02:12:12 like those vault submissions...tomorrow! 02:14:52 maybe I can just make another free instance and then things would be fine; will have to try that 02:14:53 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:15:31 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:15:55 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest36559 02:16:39 hmph. 02:18:30 the new lava tiles don't animate? they are just alternatives? 02:20:14 they're lava sea tiles 02:22:34 -!- JStrange has joined ##crawl-dev 02:23:11 gammafunk: free tier is per instance hour, and you get just enough hours to run a single t2.micro 24/7 for a month 02:23:13 -!- Guest36559 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:23:21 gammafunk: also, free tier only applies for the first year of your account iirc 02:23:21 oh right 02:23:46 yeah, I mean I do want to make a dedicated instance at some point, but I guess I'm stuck with that for now 02:24:14 kind of a problem, since I also want to run lomblobot on that instance 02:24:43 maybe if I use a different login it will be fine, but I'm going to guess that it's a limit on how many authentications from a single IP 02:24:57 since they're requiring SASL for these connections from AWS already 02:25:43 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:26:09 i suggest if you just want to run little bots like this look at digital ocean 02:26:15 really cheap prices for tiny instances 02:26:32 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:28:18 it's more that I want to have something to do with the instance besides run a single bot, if I'm going to pay for it at all 02:28:26 don't want a bunch of instances/machines to manage 02:29:58 ya 02:30:50 -!- Enthusiasm has quit [] 02:31:23 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:34:39 EC2 has really cheap tiny instances nowadays too 02:35:11 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:36:54 -!- debo__ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:38:27 -!- Leszczynek has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 02:40:03 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:40:11 maybe I'll just start one of those nano ones to run lomlobot/cpo 02:40:39 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 02:41:08 New branch created: taunt (2 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/taunt 02:41:08 03PleasingFungus02 07[taunt] * 0.19-a0-726-g4af737f: Use BASELINE_DELAY in _mod_speed() 10(26 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4af737f01227 02:41:08 03PleasingFungus02 07[taunt] * 0.19-a0-727-g7ffcddd: Knight ability: Taunt 10(7 hours ago, 11 files, 95+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7ffcddd78200 02:41:15 oops 02:41:22 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:41:28 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-726-g4af737f: Use BASELINE_DELAY in _mod_speed() 10(27 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4af737f01227 02:41:57 anyway, requesting feedback on taunt (esp. from chequers / koboldina) 02:42:52 * gammafunk flips everyone the bird! 02:43:09 !flip the bird 02:43:10 (╯°□°)╯︵pɹᴉq ǝɥʇ 02:43:14 rekt 02:45:11 deng 02:46:19 http://i.imgur.com/JkXgOiT.jpg?1 02:48:58 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:55:04 !source syntax.txt 02:55:05 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/docs/develop/levels/syntax.txt 02:55:49 is there an ORIENT: center ? 02:59:21 yes 03:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:41 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:01:03 it didn't highlight in vim. made me think that it wasn't a valid keyword 03:01:35 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:02:10 ^vps 03:02:11 CBRO disk usage=87% | RAM usage=22% | uptime/CPU= 03:02:09 up 585 days, 12:20, 3 users, load average: 1.16, 0.56, 0.48 03:06:12 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:06:13 -!- sooheon_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:08:37 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-726-g4af737f (34) 03:08:57 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:09:04 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 03:09:05 The build has errored. (master - 9eb61c3 #5968 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/139111004 03:09:05 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 03:12:49 /crawl-master/crawl-vaulted/data/dat/des/branches/crypt.des:2164: Bad orient: northwest | northeast | southwest | southeast 03:12:58 PleasingFungus: like i care about any ancestor but Octavia the hexer 03:13:02 ORIENT: northwest | northeast | southwest | southeast 03:13:04 (ask again next week) 03:13:24 what's the problem with that ORIENT? 03:13:50 oh. hm. the syntax guide shows: ORIENT: (float | encompass | north | northwest | ... | southeast) 03:13:56 so I guess I need parens 03:13:57 ??doh 03:13:57 |amethyst[1/24]: <|amethyst> doh 03:14:05 chequers: forecast hazy. 03:15:17 ugh. still not working :C 03:15:29 Bad orient: (northwest | northeast | southwest | southeast) 03:15:32 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-726-g4af737f (34) 03:16:56 i don't think anything uses multiple orients 03:16:56 johnstein: that syntax is just a way to suggest that you have to pick one of those 03:16:59 i think that - yeah 03:17:06 what zaba said. 03:17:21 that's kinda confusing 03:17:24 johnstein: yeah 03:17:38 kind of a bummer you can't set multiple orients 03:17:44 johnstein: 'float' is sort of that 03:17:53 but float can go anywhere 03:17:56 because it can be anywhere, including, i think, near the edges 03:18:30 the real solution to what I'm trying to do is to use the same approach geoelf_castle uses to pad the area around the primary vault 03:18:47 and just figure out where the primary vault is being generated, then build the layout around it 03:19:31 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:20:24 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 03:22:35 why would you need multiple orients? 03:25:12 float can go anywhere! do anything! 03:26:32 !lg * x=vlong 03:26:34 5804724. [vlong=0.19-a0-664-g51fd293] Curaria the Ruffian (L4 GhMo), slain by Sigmund (a +0 scythe) on D:2 on 2016-06-21 07:26:12, with 62 points after 1126 turns and 0:01:51. 03:26:35 %git c8dcfc9 03:26:35 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-679-gc8dcfc9: Rework Monk start (chequers) 10(5 days ago, 2 files, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c8dcfc9153d0 03:26:44 !lg * vlong>0.19-a0-679-gc8dcfc9 03:26:45 7780. chequers the Intangible (L27 OgMo of Okawaru), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2016-06-21 07:25:33, with 1961156 points after 102503 turns and 2:59:30. 03:26:52 op? 03:26:56 !kw newmonk mo vlong>0.19-a0-679-gc8dcfc9 03:26:57 Defined keyword: newmonk => mo vlong>0.19-a0-679-gc8dcfc9 03:26:58 apparently 03:27:04 ogmo is a good name 03:27:14 how goes it, Ogmo, old friend. 03:27:19 Agreed. 03:27:24 i think og is good mo now, since you get +3 fighting for bonus starting hp 03:27:29 amalloy, trying to create a new crypt end/layout. not sure yet what it's going to turn into. but the main issue is ensuring the primary vault gets sanely placed 03:27:32 and you have +3 apt for your weapon so low skill is irrelevant 03:27:56 !kw newmonk vlong>0.19-a0-679-gc8dcfc9 03:27:56 Defined keyword: newmonk => vlong>0.19-a0-679-gc8dcfc9 03:28:00 !lg * recent mo s=crace 03:28:01 so I was playing around with the idea that I could have primary vault that would 'fit' in any of the corners 03:28:03 68496 games for * (recent mo): 13540x Demonspawn, 11386x Troll, 8459x Vine Stalker, 6563x Ghoul, 4411x Octopode, 3470x Mummy, 3206x Minotaur, 3147x Draconian, 2133x Gargoyle, 2122x Felid, 1613x Hill Orc, 1453x Vampire, 1066x Naga, 972x Human, 644x Kobold, 635x Tengu, 594x Deep Elf, 562x Ogre, 484x Merfolk, 361x Centaur, 359x Formicid, 345x Spriggan, 271x Demigod, 232x Deep Dwarf, 218x High Elf, 12... 03:28:08 or something 03:28:11 Gotta say, the game has improved a ton or two 0.11->now. 03:28:32 !lg * recent s=crace mo -graph 03:28:34 68497 games for * (recent mo): https://shalott.org/graphs/6e801a7d5ea5d13b78fde6800f6aade5e3989409.html 03:28:39 but that's just dancing around the underlying issue that you are kind of alluding to. just let the end-vault float, then build the layout around it 03:28:46 !lg * recent s=crace mo newmonk -graph 03:28:48 563 games for * (recent mo newmonk): https://shalott.org/graphs/54f5a50ab10eb26a354b8086cc50715c3da2eee0.html 03:28:52 Very little mindless boring grind levels for this character at least. 03:29:16 no real changes yet 03:29:28 johnstein: can't you just orient it, say, southeast, design your vault as if it will always be in the SE corner, and then let the rotation/mirroring code put it in any corner? 03:29:32 !kw newmonk vlong>0.19-a0-679-gc8dcfc9 monk 03:29:34 Defined keyword: newmonk => vlong>0.19-a0-679-gc8dcfc9 monk 03:30:00 amalloy, probably. but was worried that it would always be in the same relative corner of the layout 03:30:15 the geoelf_castle approach is really the best I think 03:30:30 if you have to you can use subvaults i think. multiple orients just doesn't make sense to me 03:31:33 you are very likely correct. I'm already using subvaults 03:32:32 to me, multiple orients would have meant, "this subvault is to be forced to only adhere to these locations". but sounds like I'm not remembering the mirroring/rotation aspects 03:36:33 I did what you said amalloy and that's basically what I wanted, cept would be nice if it wasn't *always* in the corner. would be nice if I could have it also in the middle of the edge sometimes. but perhaps that just doesn't make sense 03:36:56 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:43:46 the only way i can think of to do that would be...well, i was going to try to describe it, but it was pretty awful 03:44:10 whereas you're messing with layout code as i understand it, so you probably have some tools i don't know about as a .des pleb 03:45:55 * johnstein is totally a .des pleb 03:46:07 ??johnstein[badge 03:46:08 johnstein[1/9]: acquire Vault Maker Merit Badge Level 1 03:46:19 I think I got that eventually. but working on Level 2 03:47:10 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:47:17 I wonder what my sash looks like at this point 03:48:34 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 03:49:10 -!- Pekkekke has quit [] 03:50:27 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 03:50:28 The build passed. 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No idea why things were down there 10:13:17 fixed at least. 10:14:48 %git 10:14:48 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-726-g4af737f: Use BASELINE_DELAY in _mod_speed() 10(8 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4af737f01227 10:18:54 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:22:26 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.19-a0-727-g0a03c4b: Tmons tile edit 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0a03c4bd8ef0 10:32:36 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:34:17 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:39:03 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:03 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:43:47 -!- jefus- has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:44:00 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:46:26 -!- Ideocl4st has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:50:29 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:53:40 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01:33 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:01:38 -!- Laraso has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:03:11 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:08:24 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:08:38 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-727-g0a03c4b (34) 11:11:08 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:14:25 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 11:32:30 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:32:48 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:38:11 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:45:28 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:45:35 -!- PsyMar has quit [Quit: witty quit message goes here] 11:53:06 -!- Demise_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:53:27 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:58:45 -!- Gruntzz has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:58:58 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:11:28 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:15:58 -!- lukano has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:21:49 -!- Ideocl4st has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:23:13 -!- ystael has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:23:52 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 12:25:28 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:26:15 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:27:30 -!- removeelyvilon_ has quit [Client Quit] 12:34:34 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:37:20 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:42:39 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:43:04 -!- Ideocl4st has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:44:03 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:45:09 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:49:39 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:42:53 Ally attacks plant instead of monster 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10520 by nubinia 14:43:00 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 14:43:00 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please. 14:43:01 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! Type ??servers for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic 14:44:29 -!- Telnaior has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:46:57 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:48:09 if we're getting rid of allies attacking plants, i don't want to be a part of that world =p 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:34 the thing is that it's not like the ally would be any smarter if they weren't attacking the plant, since they'd be following you - they wouldn't initiate attacks against new enemies regardless 15:04:38 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 15:04:38 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please. 15:04:39 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! Type ??servers for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic 15:05:02 probably could just disable firewood as an ally target generally 15:05:28 a sad day for beoghites 15:05:50 how will they stay warm in the winter now... 15:06:58 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 15:10:50 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 15:10:51 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:11:23 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:14:39 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:17:12 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:19:03 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 15:21:27 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:23:32 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:28:39 -!- djinni has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:29:22 -!- djinni has joined ##crawl-dev 15:30:28 -!- Cenon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:30:28 -!- wmbt has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:31:03 -!- pantaril has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:31:59 -!- TAS_2012v has joined ##crawl-dev 15:34:13 -!- SakuyaIzayoi has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:39:00 Hmm, treeform might be leaking info about invisible enemies: "You cannot move" and no turn lost if they aren't there. 15:39:12 heh 15:47:06 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:51:10 -!- caspen has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:53:15 -!- Cenon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:53:15 -!- wmbt has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:58:13 i have gotten way too much hilarity out of my horde of minions whaling away at plants instead of an actual threat 15:59:30 -!- scummos| has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:33 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:03:10 -!- Mekire has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:04:44 ah, that's another good point for removing monster invis 16:05:02 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:06:54 huh. i was going to correct you, ProzacElf, by pointing out that the slang term is generally spelled "wail on" rather than "whale on", but it turns out that they are both actually popular malapropisms derived from the obscure word "wale" 16:07:12 hah 16:07:37 i recall having an argument about that in tavern some time ago 16:08:07 besides, "wail" doesn't make any sense. "whale" at least gives the impression of using your immense bulk to smash something 16:08:56 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [Client Quit] 16:09:15 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:11:58 I thought people distorted it into "wail on" because they imagined some dude smashing things with an axe whilst wildly ululating 16:12:49 -!- Wax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:12:51 i always associated "wail" with more of a noise indicating sorrow or pain 16:13:20 rather than ululating 16:15:23 ^ 16:16:03 -!- wmbt has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:22:59 you can definitely wail in rage while wielding an axe 16:23:27 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [] 16:23:41 and fwiw minmay's description is a reasonable approximation of how imagine wailing on would look 16:25:01 <|amethyst> amalloy: I don't think it's definitively derived from "wale", though that seems likely 16:27:33 <|amethyst> "whale into" dates to 1790, at which point the wine-whine merger was present in the south of England, but only just beginning to be considered acceptible in educated speech 16:27:41 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]] 16:28:42 <|amethyst> but the first attestation is in _A Provincial Glossary_, which from the title would presumably be describing uneducated speech 16:28:59 -!- pipel has quit [Client Quit] 16:31:52 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:34:01 -!- jeefus is now known as jefus 16:35:01 -!- simples has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:35:56 i think chei is having problems 16:35:56