00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01:20 -!- destroythecore has quit [Client Quit] 00:02:29 is it time to bring back splint mail? 00:02:38 i already did 00:02:39 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:02:46 dang!!! 00:02:59 -!- Taraiph has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:03:01 i'm not even joking, really 00:03:32 %git c164773add0798ebfd9f42d19aa6b511fdb786e5 00:03:32 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-434-gc164773: Small Hep ^ table improvements 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c164773add07 00:03:37 -!- Dracunos72 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:10:05 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]] 00:16:43 -!- Telnaior has quit [Client Quit] 00:21:46 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 00:22:58 lol 00:23:30 please add a line for Zomaka where they review you on Zomato 00:23:48 "secret technique" 00:24:16 you left a bunch of mpr/mprf in the commit 00:24:28 terrible debugging strings 00:25:03 -!- home has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:25:13 @??urug 00:25:13 Urug (05o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 9 | HP: 56-75 | AC/EV: 8/12 | Dam: 25 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter | Res: 06magic(40) | XP: 836 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:25:47 @??prince ribbit 00:25:47 Prince Ribbit (11F) | Spd: 14 (swim: 60%) | HD: 6 | HP: 31-46 | AC/EV: 0/16 | Dam: 20 | amphibious, spellcaster, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(40), 12drown | XP: 273 | Sp: blink [06!sil], teleport self [04emergency] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:26:02 oh, thought it'd gotten rid of that 00:26:03 ah well 00:26:31 seems squishy 00:26:35 03PleasingFungus02 07[marksperson] * 0.19-a0-683-g3c9b3d7: Remove debugging lines (chequers) 10(13 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3c9b3d72e9fe 00:26:41 i guess dispersal 00:29:35 might be overly squishy 00:29:35 i have no idea if the core concept is good, really 00:29:50 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-683-g5f2401d (34) 00:30:09 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:30:29 it's the perfect implementation of dispersal IMO. A cool effect, but when it happens several times in elf I start to get annoyed 00:30:40 haha 00:30:53 it's also missing dialogue and a tile, of course 00:31:39 @the_monster@ moans, "I give your flesh... zero stars!" 00:31:51 lol 00:32:01 CRITICAL ZOMAKA FLAVOUR BUG: mummies? gargoyles??? 00:32:07 @the_monster@ groans, "Once I review everything in this dungeon I'll be a power user in no time" 00:32:12 ahaha 00:32:38 -!- lordfrikk has joined ##crawl-dev 00:32:42 are you attached to crossbows over bows? 00:32:45 !apt xbow 00:32:45 Xbows: Ko: 2!, Ce: 1, Te: 1, DD: 1, Mi: 1, Sp: 0, Op: 0, Gr: 0, Hu: 0, Fo: 0, Fe: N/A, HE: 0, Dg: -1, DE: -1, Gh: -1, Na: -1, VS: -1, Ds: -1, HO: -1, Ha: -1, Dr: -1, Vp: -2, Mf: -2, Mu: -2, Og: -3, Tr: -4* 00:33:00 wanted to get a little distance from ce 00:33:01 did you consider a Ce? 00:33:02 er, from nessos 00:33:06 derp 00:33:07 on both counts 00:33:23 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 00:33:24 considered throwing, but urug 00:33:27 and slings just seemed weird 00:33:40 there are no ghoul or gr uniques, but there are Mu uniques, so I support one of those two 00:33:46 heh 00:34:06 there is exactly one reason i chose gh, and i think you already know what it is 00:34:14 (it is not a very serious reason) 00:34:28 least stereotypical female species? 00:34:40 ??gham guide 00:34:40 badwiki gham guide[1/1]: THE ULTYMATE RESISTANCES OF THE GHOUL COMBINED WITH POWYRFUL CLAW ATTACKS + RANGED SUPERIORITY FROM OF THE ARKANE MARKSPERSON MAKES THE GHAM THE POWER CLASS OF 0.8, 0.10, AND 0.11. GO FOR SPLINT MAIL FOR MAXIMUM PROTECTION + FLEXIBILITY // - THIS GUIDE BY SLAUGHTRO POWER CRAWLMASTER X 00:34:54 the arkane marksperson lives... 00:35:09 even though player am isn't anything like this unique, of course 00:35:12 it's thematically similar! 00:35:18 haha 00:35:23 oh, you're missing a title 00:35:28 i forgot those existed 00:35:38 'Arkane Marksperson' seems obvious 00:35:39 ah, that makes the species obvious 00:35:46 Marksghoul >>>> Marksgargoyle 00:36:01 -!- destrovel has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:36:04 where do titles show up anyway 00:36:17 Sigmund the Dreaded comes into view. 00:36:29 (first time you see them in a given game) 00:36:32 why Ar*k*ane? 00:36:46 COMBINED WITH POWYRFUL CLAW ATTACKS + RANGED SUPERIORITY FROM OF THE ARKANE MARKSPERSON 00:37:00 oh sorry, I keep ignoring your lore source 00:37:04 PLEASE respect the lore 00:37:38 @the_monster@ yells, "I'm trying not to hit your body, because that's my favourite part to eat" 00:37:50 haha 00:38:17 "Calm down; panicking will make you taste all gamey." 00:38:18 ontoclasm: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 00:38:23 !messages 00:38:24 (1/2) ProzacElf said (20h 21m 59s ago): i think the new phantom tile does show up better 00:38:27 !messages 00:38:28 (1/1) ProzacElf said (20h 21m 48s ago): without giving me a headache also 00:39:13 high praise 00:39:32 it's always nice to hear that your work doesn't cause people physical pain 00:40:12 lmao 00:40:15 fwiw i like the new tile too 00:40:17 it's cute 00:40:39 semi-intelligent zombie speech lines: @the_monster@ moans, "Braiiinnnnnssss... are my favourite exotic meat!" 00:41:12 "Let's make lots of money." 00:41:14 seriously though, the previous tile looked all blurred around the edges on my screen 00:41:28 @the_monster@ says, "Why don't you just give me some rations?" 00:41:28 it was like there was a problem with my glasses every time i saw a phatom 00:42:53 semi-intelligent zombie speech line: @the_monster@ says, "I'm not racist, but..." 00:42:53 ProzacElf: You don't have to wear glasses if you play console 00:43:37 you obviously don't know how bad my vision is 00:44:05 lol 00:44:06 size 80 font 00:44:20 gammafunk: ah, finally a reason for 4k 00:44:31 gammafunk: any opinion on zomaka? 00:44:49 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 00:44:49 The build failed. 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(marksperson - 3c9b3d7 #5934 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/138267209 01:25:37 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 01:26:20 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-684-gf760df0: Make Xtahua's rare dialogue less common 10(49 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f760df0eec6e 01:27:04 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 01:29:45 -!- johnstein1 is now known as johnstein 01:30:49 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:31:13 -!- Rotatell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:31:23 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 01:31:35 -!- johnstein is now known as johnstein1 01:32:32 -!- johnstein1 is now known as johnstein 01:33:36 -!- johnstein is now known as johnstein1 01:39:08 -!- johnstein1 is now known as johnstein 01:41:14 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: Reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold, BYE] 01:41:54 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:42:13 -!- johnstein is now known as johnstein1 01:42:56 -!- Rotatell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:43:06 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 01:43:36 -!- johnstein1 is now known as johnstein 01:45:53 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:46:41 -!- Rotatell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:46:51 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 01:47:21 -!- johnstein is now known as johnstein2 01:49:03 -!- olscumpy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:49:22 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 01:49:51 -!- olscumpy has joined ##crawl-dev 01:50:24 -!- Rotatell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:50:36 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 01:50:58 -!- johnstein2 is now known as johnstein 01:52:12 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:52:12 I know this has super limited usefulness and should be replaced by a proper system, but for now, it will do (esp for when I'm stuck at work and desperately need to run mapstat!) 01:52:20 ^mapstat Zot 5 01:52:42 Ran crawl -mapstat Zot:5 -iters 100 -> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/mapstat/Zot-5_johnstein_1466142627292.log 01:54:11 ^mapstat Elf 38 01:54:12 Ran crawl -mapstat Elf:38 -iters 100 -> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/mapstat/Elf-38_minmay_1466142627292.log 01:54:33 trying to get it to run the newer version of crawl 01:54:41 looks like it's pointing to OLD 01:55:14 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-684-gf760df0 01:55:59 ^mapstat Pan 100 01:55:59 Ran crawl -mapstat Pan:100 -iters 100 -> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/mapstat/Pan-100_johnstein_1466142627292.log 01:59:02 johnstein will not be stopped 01:59:11 hm 01:59:23 I'm trying to recompile and it's not working well 01:59:40 is there a way to clear ccache? 01:59:57 well, you could delete the dirs in .ccache but 02:00:02 you really shouldn't have to 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:15 not sure if there's a better way to clear it, but why do you think it's a ccache problem? 02:00:17 I did a git pull origin master, then make, then it just scrolled through all the recompiling, listing all the o files 02:00:18 Probably just make clean 02:00:23 like it was compiling super fast 02:00:27 so I did a make clean 02:00:37 and I got a lot of verbose output, but no recompiling 02:00:54 then I moved all the o files to a tmp subdir and when I did make again, all the o files appeared instantly 02:01:05 well yeah, that's how ccache works, johnstein 02:01:15 yep 02:01:31 so it looks like it won't recompile the new files. I did a git log and looks current 02:01:33 %git 02:01:33 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-684-gf760df0: Make Xtahua's rare dialogue less common 10(36 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f760df0eec6e 02:01:49 that commit didn't change any source files 02:01:54 are you sure there's been an actual change? 02:02:13 see the zot:5 link above? that's what the repo was at before the git pull origin master 02:02:30 then the Pan 100 is what it's at now. both are 0.18 02:02:43 but the current repo is definitely 0.19-a0-684 02:03:12 johnstein: what if I request 1000000 iterations 02:03:19 -!- somebody has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:03:21 can't 02:03:24 it's hardcoded to 100 02:03:35 ok 02:03:39 ^mapstat Crypt alsfdjasdlk asdlfkj asd asldkfklj 02:03:39 bad number of arguments: ^mapstat currenly requires 2 inputs, branch & floor: Crypt 3 (branches are generally capitalized. this matters for now) 02:03:52 ^mapstat Crypt 3 02:03:53 Ran crawl -mapstat Crypt:3 -iters 100 -> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/mapstat/Crypt-3_chequers_1466142627292.log 02:03:55 only works for one floor 02:04:05 it's borked for now since my recompile isn't working 02:04:11 RIP 02:04:12 dats weird 02:04:13 rip 02:04:32 does Temple:1 work as a specifier 02:04:40 yes 02:04:47 it should 02:05:22 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:05:48 wow. mapstat sometimes just gives up halfway through if it builds a disconnected level 02:05:52 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:05:56 Iteration: 1..2..3..4..Bad (disconnected) level on D:15 (hangedman_depths_entry_civil_slaughter, layout_basic, dungeon_decor, minmay_misc_feat_nine_boxes, elyvilon_altar_4) 02:06:23 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:06:48 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest61210 02:06:48 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 02:06:49 The build was fixed. (marksperson - bf82414 #5935 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/138271452 02:06:49 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 02:07:13 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:07:40 did it stop after that? 02:07:49 sounds like it would just be a vetoe 02:07:50 yeah, and the file had only 4 entries, and seemed badly formatted 02:07:54 *veto 02:08:03 of course I tried to reproduce it and overwrote the file -.- 02:08:05 yeah that's bad 02:08:15 I haven't had objstat do that 02:08:21 despite doing 1k iterations 02:08:31 it's probably doing some additional checks and discarding levels 02:08:32 !tell pleasingfungus just realised, surely zomaka needs spells if she's an AM? 02:08:33 chequers: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 02:08:39 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-684-gf760df0 (34) 02:08:43 there are some weird conditions those two use iirc 02:08:45 lets try 100k iterations 02:08:59 -!- FireSight has quit [] 02:11:07 -!- Guest61210 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:11:38 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:12:01 you can't! you'll destroy us all!! 02:12:33 man this is so weird 02:12:49 might oom my system 02:13:03 ah, there we go, after 811 iterations 02:13:08 810..811..Bad (disconnected) level on D:15 (grunt_enter_depths_giant_problem, layout_basic, dungeon_decor, minmay_misc_feat_alley, serial_ice, serial_ice_m, serial_ice_h, serial_ice_l, serial_ice_o, serial_ice_c, serial_ice_n, portal_ice_cave_entry_pillars_1, moated_statue) 02:13:26 yeah, objstat doesn't fail like this, but I think mapstat does this 02:13:33 because it's a tool used to debug bad levels 02:13:37 right, this is coming back to me 02:13:42 chequers: there's a special file it's created 02:13:48 that has some debugging stuff 02:13:50 let me see 02:13:53 i thoguht the point was is added this data to mapstat.log 02:13:58 map.dump 02:14:01 it's failing so it can write that data to the file 02:14:01 right 02:14:02 that's it 02:14:13 bleh, just write map.dump.${i} 02:14:18 for each failure 02:15:01 yeah that's just what the original author had it do, probably because that kind of thing was of primary interest 02:15:13 ya 02:15:15 hm. "$ make debug" worked.... 02:15:35 gammafunk, really looking forward to a nicer mapstat output. grunt added the third column in the table 02:15:42 !tell nicolae- were you going to open up your closed overflow altars that require going downstairs and back up? 02:15:43 chequers: OK, I'll let nicolae- know. 02:15:43 but kinda would like them all separated out. 02:15:46 make debug would force you to basically ignore ccache johnstein 02:15:52 because the obj files would no longer be the same 02:16:09 so yeah if you change build args like that you'll def get new compilation 02:16:16 but that's not addressing the problem you observed I guess 02:16:17 it's weird that I'm running into this issue. but I never compile manually 02:16:24 compile manually? 02:16:38 hm, do monsters that get ISPEC_GOOD_ITEM have a chance for that item to be cursed? 02:16:39 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:16:40 I always use the dgamelaunch infrastructure 02:16:43 or are they guaranteed uncursed 02:16:51 to install to dbro 02:16:56 identical to cbro 02:17:04 that ispec doesn't gaurantee non-cursed items I think 02:17:14 also, for mapstat, here's the columns of data I'd like to see 02:19:22 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:19:32 successful, placed (inc vetoed), tried, failed, vetoed, pct placed, pct failed, pct successful, pct vetoed, 02:19:42 first 3 are the current ones 02:19:58 +1 for percentages 02:20:34 yeah you just need to check all the conditions mapstat is using carefully 02:20:39 when I was debugging the crypt end floating vaults, I pulled everything into excel 02:20:47 and made those columns myself 02:20:58 which really helped 02:21:04 I don't think it's hard to like do some calculations but 02:21:11 the real issue is how to format all those tables 02:21:20 to me one table per file might help a lot for processing 02:21:27 it's just bad to have them all clobbered on top of each other 02:21:36 yea 02:21:37 but I don't know what all the tables are and how best to format 02:21:42 some are kind of weird 02:21:46 I liked your sqlite suggestion 02:21:56 well that'd be cool, but that's a v. different project 02:22:11 sure 02:22:15 huge amount of work because you have to reimplement mapstat/objstat 02:22:15 one problem with the sqlite suggestion is you cant as easily version your runs as with the current setup 02:22:26 you can easily cp mapstat.log mapstat.log.prechange 02:22:27 version? 02:22:30 and then nearly diff the results 02:22:30 yea good point 02:22:41 need more complex tooling than that for sqlite 02:22:50 chequers, I prefer moving them to different folders then using beyond compare 02:22:51 well, not really 02:22:52 more flexibility and power potentially, just someone has to build the tooling 02:23:07 I mean the whole idea is it spits out some like db3 file 02:23:07 instead of renaming, but same workflow basically 02:23:12 so you get a db3 file pre change and post change 02:23:19 you run the objstat/mapstat scripts on said files 02:23:23 chequers, mapstat could take a label as an optional input 02:23:24 then you have two output versions 02:23:30 I don't see how it's different from the current system 02:23:34 maybe to tag the data internally? 02:23:42 sure 02:23:44 or yea, what gammafunk said. I'm not a db person 02:23:53 I can barely do anything with them 02:23:57 the fact that crawl isn't spitting out the final files itself doesn't really matter; it's just mapstat/objstat.py that will do so 02:24:02 you know my mapstat PR uses the PID 02:24:04 ^mapstat Crypt 3 02:24:05 Ran crawl -mapstat Crypt:3 -iters 100 -> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/mapstat/Crypt-3_johnstein_1466142627292.log 02:24:07 but perhaps i should add a timestamp too 02:24:18 ^mapstat Crypt 3 02:24:18 Ran crawl -mapstat Crypt:3 -iters 100 -> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/mapstat/Crypt-3_johnstein_1466142627292.log 02:25:13 /rm -rf / 02:25:44 the "make debug" made the 0.18 version again 02:26:05 seems like you don't have an updated source 02:26:12 but it is 02:26:13 I mean what does git describe get you? 02:26:23 ugh 02:26:37 welp 02:26:40 0.18-a0-2496-gf760df0 so yea, that's the problem. but git log is current 02:26:42 oh hmm 02:27:16 I did a git pull origin --tags 02:27:46 and git describe is: 0.19-a0-684-gf760df0 02:28:05 so that's cleared up. make still zooms by. 02:28:57 ^mapstat Crypt 3 02:28:57 Ran crawl -mapstat Crypt:3 -iters 100 -> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/mapstat/Crypt-3_johnstein_1466142627292.log 02:29:57 well, maybe you have the latest trunk then? 02:30:06 and there's just no problem 02:30:16 all that happened was that it was tagged as the wrong version, right? 02:30:31 looks like it's working now 02:30:41 yeah that's all it was, you didn't get the tag 02:30:51 oh. yea I bet that was it. maybe it's using ccache from the cbro repo? 02:30:51 so it was describing the version wrong; you had latest trunk the whole time 02:30:54 can that be a thing? 02:31:12 I mean, I don't know where your ccache is or how you have your shell configured 02:31:13 I had the courage inside ME the whole time! 02:31:19 me neither :/ 02:31:50 ^mapstat Crypt 3 02:31:51 Ran crawl -mapstat Crypt:3 -iters 100 -> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/mapstat/Crypt-3_johnstein_1466142627292.log 02:32:09 ^mapstat Crypt 2 02:32:09 Ran crawl -mapstat Crypt:2 -iters 100 -> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/mapstat/Crypt-2_johnstein_1466142627292.log 02:32:15 ^mapstat Crypt 1 02:32:15 Ran crawl -mapstat Crypt:1 -iters 100 -> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/mapstat/Crypt-1_johnstein_1466142627292.log 02:32:50 ^mapstat Elf 38 02:32:51 Ran crawl -mapstat Elf:38 -iters 100 -> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/mapstat/Elf-38_johnstein_1466142627292.log 02:36:16 crawl/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/bailey.des:368: Couldn't find a map for bailey_polearm 02:36:34 if I had a dollar for everytime I seem to screw up my vaults, I'd have about $10 bucks 02:37:01 that's an error I see when I don't run crawl -builddb 02:37:10 before running objstat or mapstat 02:42:56 -!- Rotatell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:43:07 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 02:43:44 yea. that was it. ty gammafunk 02:43:47 ^mapstat Orc 2 02:44:21 Ran crawl -mapstat Orc:2 -iters 100 -> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/mapstat/Orc-2_johnstein_1466145825983.log 02:45:35 ^mapstat Orc 1 02:45:51 Ran crawl -mapstat Orc:1 -iters 100 -> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/mapstat/Orc-1_johnstein_1466145934167.log 02:46:05 johnstein: maybe you can have the builddb output not be part of the main output? 02:46:19 probably just >/dev/null for that command or something 02:46:28 maybe it needs 2>&1 as well 02:46:29 yea 02:46:41 shouldn't appear again unless something changed, but yea, I'll do that 02:46:56 ^mapstat Depths 5 02:47:19 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 02:47:20 The build passed. (master - f760df0 #5936 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/138272550 02:47:20 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 02:48:08 Ran crawl -mapstat Depths:5 -iters 100 -> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/mapstat/Depths-5_johnstein_1466146015346.log 02:48:17 there's a chance that multiple ^mapstat commands will conflict. but I seriously doubt that's a practical concern. 02:48:35 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:48:43 my main reason of doing this is to be a reminder that we need a better way :P 02:49:15 ^mapstat Depths 02:49:15 bad number of arguments: ^mapstat currenly requires 2 inputs, branch & floor: Crypt 3 (branches are generally capitalized. this matters for now) 02:49:28 ^mapstat Depth 02:49:28 bad number of arguments: ^mapstat currenly requires 2 inputs, branch & floor: Crypt 3 (branches are generally capitalized. this matters for now) 02:49:34 ^mapstat Depth 1 02:49:34 Ran crawl -mapstat Depth:1 -iters 100 -> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/mapstat/Depth-1_gammafunk_1466146172926.log 02:49:53 need to do Depths (need the s) 02:50:01 that was an intentional typo 02:50:03 oh 02:50:04 haha 02:50:10 -!- johnstein is now known as johnstein1 02:50:11 er 02:50:14 -!- johnstein1 is now known as johnstein2 02:50:21 ^mapstat Snake 5 02:50:22 you are not an authorized ^mapstat user. please contact johnstein for details 02:50:48 hrm 02:50:49 obviously I'm relying on nickserv here, but for such a niche feature, I think it's going to be OK 02:50:52 oh 02:50:54 -!- johnstein2 is now known as johstein 02:50:55 what if I do 02:51:00 -!- johstein is now known as johnstein 02:51:13 oh nm 02:51:21 ^mapstat Depths,Temple 1 02:51:34 rip 02:51:35 my main concern was people trying to do huge iterations for the entire dungeon to try to screw things up 02:51:39 takes a while 02:51:44 well I think I just got it 02:51:47 to run multiple levels 02:51:56 unless you caught that 02:52:00 in-code, I mean 02:52:02 it's a pretty dumb setup: 02:52:35 $crawl_path -mapstat $branch:$floor -iters $iters 02:52:36 if using an arg of Depths,Temple 1 will make it run Depths,Temple:1 02:52:46 then what you want to do is a regexp pass on $branch 02:52:58 ah ok 02:53:00 good point 02:53:01 basically [A-Z][a-z]+ 02:53:04 or some equiv 02:53:18 well, for now it's a whitelist and I pretty much only have you devs on it 02:53:30 and it puts your name on the output :P 02:53:40 ^vps 02:53:46 yeah sure, just pointing that out, how you want to sanitize your inputs 02:53:49 yea 02:54:02 definitely 02:54:02 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-684-gf760df0 02:54:04 hrm, this is esp the case if you're passing that to shell 02:54:11 not sure how you're calling crawl though 02:54:31 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/mapstat/Depths,Temple-1_gammafunk_1466146280424.log 02:54:34 if you want to watch it 02:54:43 -!- Rotatell has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:54:48 oooooop 02:54:56 yeah looks like it did indeed run Depths,Temple:1 02:55:00 that's all I wanted to see 02:55:31 maybe it's time to retire it again till I get that cleaned up too 02:55:33 :P 02:56:04 don't worry, beem on twitch had similar fun things you could do in early versions 02:56:07 like 02:56:15 .echo /quit 02:56:16 /quit 02:56:24 hah 02:56:25 made it send /quit and quit out of irc 02:57:09 I'm kinda surprised Rotatell quit 02:58:11 my $INACTIVE_IDLE_CEILING_SECONDS = 300; 02:58:17 maybe that's what happened 02:58:31 Maaan, I'm so pumped I got a win yesterday, last one was in 0.11 (this was a 0.17 game) 02:58:58 (gammafunk: your run is done) 02:59:20 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 02:59:21 Heavy armour axe maniac was fun, Xom was fun, javelins were way too powerful. 02:59:35 Ran crawl -mapstat Depths,Temple:1 -iters 100 -> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/mapstat/Depths,Temple-1_gammafunk_1466146280424.log 02:59:38 CBRO disk usage=83% | RAM usage=15% | uptime/CPU= 02:58:09 up 581 days, 12:16, 3 users, load average: 1.36, 1.07, 0.72 02:59:45 hah. thanks Rotatell! 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:04 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:00:05 that's pretty cool that it automatically reconnected and still posted the message 03:00:40 ^mapstat Pan 1 03:00:47 (the real reason I did this) 03:01:07 Ran crawl -mapstat Pan:1 -iters 100 -> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/mapstat/Pan-1_johnstein_1466146839636.log 03:01:45 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:04:52 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:09:04 well it looks like this asyncirc thing should work 03:12:09 node? 03:12:31 that's what OCTOTROG uses. not sure what Kramell uses 03:12:53 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:14:39 -!- halfwit_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:17:18 -!- eb_ has quit [] 03:17:19 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:20:28 no asyncirc is just a python irc package that uses asycnio 03:20:38 *asyncio 03:20:59 which is good because beem is already using that 03:21:09 but more to the point asyncirc supports sasl 03:21:44 and doesn't have a hard-coded event loop that you can't really control like the other sasl-supporting package I was looking at 03:23:37 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-684-gf760df0 (34) 03:34:13 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:37:44 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:39:55 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:54:53 -!- Twinge has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:56:25 -!- JStrange has joined ##crawl-dev 03:56:53 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 03:57:37 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:58:52 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:01:33 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:01:50 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 04:02:49 -!- removeelyvilon_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:02:56 !tell PleasingFungus FWIW I really like "centaurs with dispersal" so a unique with it sounds good to me! 04:02:56 Keskitalo: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 04:06:34 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:06:58 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest37326 04:07:37 -!- Yermak has joined ##crawl-dev 04:10:32 -!- Guest37326 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:13:29 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:16:09 sonja is bad enough 04:17:51 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 04:20:48 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:21:41 -!- Lantell has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:22:02 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:22:35 -!- Jafet has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:22:44 -!- Lantell has joined ##crawl-dev 04:22:45 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:23:00 -!- Jafet has joined ##crawl-dev 04:29:28 -!- JStrange has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:30:21 -!- waat has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:44:43 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 04:44:43 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please. 04:44:44 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! Type ??servers for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic 04:44:57 -!- Eksell has joined ##crawl-dev 04:45:00 -!- raikaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:46:02 -!- robertmeta has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:47:15 -!- zxc_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:47:52 -!- johnny0 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:49:59 -!- zxc has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:51:35 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:51:50 -!- eki has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:57:09 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 04:59:53 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 05:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:04:21 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:05:13 -!- Torax_ is now known as Tiltorax 05:06:50 -!- olscumpy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:12:00 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:31:28 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:48:38 -!- edsrzf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:53:41 -!- jefus- has joined ##crawl-dev 05:57:10 -!- jeefus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:09:17 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:14:19 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:17:26 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:26:45 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 06:27:22 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 06:31:19 !tell pleasingfungus i don't really think that a dispersal unique is very interestingly distinct from vashnia and nessos, they each do a pretty similar thing to it 06:31:20 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 06:35:00 !tell pleasingfungus maybe an unrand bow of dispersal could be a thing? not convinced it's all that much of a loss though, and dispersal throwing weapons still exist 06:35:01 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 06:41:24 -!- keleg has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:52:53 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:55:27 I was talking about the loss of dispersal/penetration thing, I didn't first realize thrown weapons still have brands. Just needs more of the dispersal throwables end up in monsters' hands. :> 06:57:11 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 06:57:52 -!- keleg has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:03:54 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 07:06:22 Hm, device heal hampering mutations could result in tweaked messaging.. I got a temporary mutation and didn't realize while emptying my wand of hw. :) 07:14:33 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:22:11 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:25:12 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:31:58 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:34:14 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:39:40 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:42:44 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 07:47:38 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:53:42 -!- knu has quit [Quit: Reboot...] 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:01:43 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:03:29 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:04:58 Svalbardcaretaker (L18 OpWn) ASSERT(a) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 960 failed. (No actor in stationary net at (39,42)) (Shoals:4) 08:12:57 -!- Mekire has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:18:03 -!- pantaril_ is now known as pantaril 08:18:49 Crash upon unknown actions on shoals:4 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10510 by Le_Nerd 08:20:13 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 08:21:14 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:22:06 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 08:29:07 -!- andre_1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:47:56 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:01:29 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:11:46 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:12:05 -!- mopl_ has quit [Client Quit] 09:15:08 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: Probably restarting if not leaving] 09:17:06 should gastronok be M_MALE? it's... a slug 09:19:20 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:20:41 -!- Ehh has quit [Client Quit] 09:24:34 unrealistic 09:29:16 Is tstbtto a bot account? Because it's hosing the server CAO is hosted on. 09:29:51 It keeps automatically logging back in when I close its games, and it's just sitting in one space resting for thousands of turns. 09:30:14 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:30:44 yeah it is one 09:31:25 if the person running it is being an ass i see nothing wrong with banning them 09:31:35 I don't think it's on purpose it looks like a bug 09:31:46 However I think I am going to shut down the account for now (when I can get a command in edgewise) 09:31:50 <|amethyst> it has : DELAYED = true and : DELAY_TIME = 100 09:32:07 I'm not sure that's working. 09:34:20 -!- Rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:34:28 -!- Rast has joined ##crawl-dev 09:36:19 -!- Rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:36:45 -!- Rast has joined ##crawl-dev 09:38:28 -!- Rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:38:45 -!- Rast has joined ##crawl-dev 09:40:04 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:44:24 -!- Patashu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:47:06 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 09:47:24 !lm tstbtto 09:47:25 38479. [2016-06-17 13:35:29] tstbtto the Skirmisher (L1 CeBe of Trog) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 09:59:21 &dump tstbtto 09:59:22 http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM/crawl/morgue/tstbtto/tstbtto.txt 09:59:28 &dump tstbtto cao 09:59:29 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/tstbtto/tstbtto.txt 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00:39 these notes 10:01:21 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:02:12 I'm not sure what tstbtto was doing (it is a modified qw, the person who runs it sends me PRs sometimes) but it doesn't look good 10:02:48 almost certainly a bug rather than anything malicious, but shutting it down for now sounds good if it was messing up CAO 10:03:35 the person who runs it comes to IRC occasionally, I'll let him know what happened if I see him 10:06:00 rax_: btw, as you may or may not have noticed I've been running qw (my bot) on CAO recently - I don't think it has been doing anything problematic like this, but let me know if it causes any trouble (including just eating up too much CPU, I can increase the delay more) 10:06:21 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:08:39 elliptic: It looks good so far, thank you, and thanks for letting the tstbtto person know. It's still slow, but because all the background utilities are catching up from having been unable to run because tstbtto was using up all the CPU and memory :P 10:12:58 is there anything in server code to prevent any one player (bot or otherwise) from eating too many cpu cycles at once? 10:14:21 eating memory sounds more scary 10:14:27 in an ideal world, it wouldn't be the botter's responsibility to make sure his bot doesn't crash the server 10:14:37 Jafet, sure that too 10:14:59 but the memory thing can be controlled using ulimit 10:19:22 -!- mopl has quit [Client Quit] 10:22:47 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:24:53 hm, so tstbtto had some debug print statement spamming going on 10:25:30 also taking a bunch of notes - the final dump is 65M 10:26:46 maybe more relevantly the final ttyrec size is 607M 10:32:13 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 10:35:56 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:45:39 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:49:01 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:51:04 -!- olscumpy has joined ##crawl-dev 10:53:42 -!- andre_1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:59:27 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:08:54 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:14:33 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:22:57 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:29:56 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 11:30:30 -!- LexAckson__ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:33:24 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:40:09 -!- olscumpy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:41:46 -!- aiena has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.9.1 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/] 11:46:07 -!- olscumpy has joined ##crawl-dev 11:47:16 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 12:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:04:01 !source godabil.cc 12:04:02 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/godabil.cc 12:05:14 !source godabil.cc:4622 12:05:14 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/godabil.cc#l4622 12:05:50 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:09:04 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:10:55 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:12:01 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:14:56 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:24:22 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:03 -!- DevlanMud|Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:29:03 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:31:23 -!- Dracunos_ has quit [] 12:38:59 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:40:01 -!- olscumpy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:40:24 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 12:42:58 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 12:44:01 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 12:44:41 the mall is closed? :p 12:45:08 -!- shmup_ is now known as shmup 12:47:05 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 12:54:21 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 12:58:09 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:54 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 13:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:25 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:04:20 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:10:35 chequers: for your mapstat PID update, is there a way to tell it to not append the PID? otherwise the output filename is always a different name making it more difficult to use in a script 13:10:56 ie if the filename is always different my script won't know what the name of the file is 13:11:45 -!- JoeMaro__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:14:06 -!- Athaboros has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:16:03 -!- Athaboros_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:19:37 right now I know I'll get a file named mapstat.log. I might prefer an optional label you can pass to the command. crawl -mapstat -label PID 13:20:28 I suppose I should be replying to the PR 13:25:11 -!- link108 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:39 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 13:28:06 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-684-gf760df0 (34) 13:29:26 -!- Athaboros_home has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:31:13 %dump kazak 13:31:15 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:33:04 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:33:50 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:37:52 -!- Dracunos has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:47:06 johnstein: your script can use the $! variable to get the PID of the last executed command 13:49:00 Although that's for bg processes, you can do something like /bin/sh -c 'echo $$>/tmp/my.pid && exec program args' 13:49:07 so assuming the correct PID is added to the mapstat log I guess that will work. I still don't like automatically naming an output file 13:49:15 for a process that's fg 13:49:22 it's caused me a ton of screwy workarounds for lots of situations 13:49:51 I've always preferred the ability to pass a user customized label 13:50:01 well, another option is to add an output filename option, I guess 13:50:03 since that gives flexibility 13:50:20 I would prefer the option, yea 13:50:24 possibly it could use an ENV var if we don't like adding an option 13:50:35 although I might like to make mapstat output multiple files 13:50:42 actually it already does in some cases 13:51:51 in what cases? 13:53:10 if a 'bad' disconnected level is generated, it writes it to something like map.dump 13:53:17 the map details, I mean 13:53:41 although in that case I think it doesn't write to mapstat.log so it's not technically multiple files, just a different file 13:53:51 that's probably behaviour that should change 13:55:37 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 13:56:33 -!- zxc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:59:00 -!- andre_1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:10:00 0 14:10:22 Keskitalo: 1 14:10:35 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:18:02 sandman25 is on tavern saying that pakellas should be buffed 14:18:47 there's some impressive leaps of logic there yes 14:19:01 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 14:20:44 -!- Wax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:21:23 -!- Dracunos72 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:24:29 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:24:47 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:29:20 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 14:35:38 -!- jefus- has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:36:10 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:39:24 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 14:42:11 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:45:34 MarvinPA: I'm still leaning towards removal 14:51:43 Of sandman25? He already removed himself once! 14:55:48 once? 14:56:32 a non-zero number of times 14:57:15 For Pak, I'm not sure what's the single most compelling argument for removing the god 14:57:44 IMO the single most compelling argument is that 14:57:46 I've heard "well he just replaces training magic!" which isn't a terribly convincing claim imo, since what he gives is no simple replacement at all 14:57:47 erg 14:57:58 gammafunk: ez. most compelling argument is that tavern is so mad about it. player-driven development 14:57:59 "Make Evo even stronger!" isn't a great god niche. 14:58:20 Lasty_: you say, that but it's a premise behind many gods in crawl 14:58:25 i don't think "he replaces training magic" came up at all when this was discussed previously yeah 14:58:36 more that the design is just fundamentally not good 14:59:16 in that it's incredibly narrow and makes a powerful thing that's already desirable for most characters much more so 14:59:20 gammafunk: make stronger is definitely a premise of many gods, IMO mostly the worst-designed gods, but I know we differ there. Evo is particular is a bad choice for a thing to make strong tho, IMO -- it's already good for everyone, so making it stronger means making it ridiculously good. 14:59:27 Also everything MPA said 14:59:51 Lasty_: well oka and Trog make melee better and melee is pretty darn universal, more so than evo 15:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:06 Trog does have a strong conduct against non-melee things, but oka does not 15:00:15 Both Trog and Oka do more than making melee better 15:00:39 and the ways they make melee better are mostly interesting 15:00:44 (arguably gifting isn't great) 15:00:46 oka i certainly would not claim is very well-designed and wouldn't be at all opposed to removing, although i think the problem there is not nearly as bad as P 15:02:38 But even if Pakellas was just as much and as interestingly "make foo better", that's still not a good argument for Pak -- it's a bit like saying "Sif is a god that gifts books, so there's no problem with my new book-gifting god" 15:02:38 "and before you ask, my god gifts different books" 15:02:38 pakellas also turns various deliberately-finite resources into infinite ones in a way which causes problems, there's a good crate post describing the problems that i linked in the last discussion 15:02:46 agreed 15:02:47 <|amethyst> Lasty_: Kiku? 15:03:13 Lasty_: if Pak was just as much and as interestingly "make foo better", the argument for Pak would then be "it makes foo interestingly better" 15:03:22 |amethyst: I'm not necessarily saying that it's wrong to have two gods who do the same thing, I'm just saying "another god does this" isn't a good argument to do it. 15:03:51 gammafunk: I can imagine there might be a Pak that is interesting enough to keep, but I haven't heard any suggestions that sound like that kind of Pak 15:04:08 <|amethyst> I liked crate's suggestion of "make Pak a rod god" 15:04:14 <|amethyst> rather than "an evo god" 15:04:23 yeah, it depends on how much you find getting more powerful and available evocations interesting 15:04:45 <|amethyst> since rods are already an infinite resource 15:04:52 |amethyst: I don't recall that suggestion. Were there more details? 15:05:40 <|amethyst> Lasty_: most recent post in the Pakellas Reform thread, and no, not much detail 15:06:34 You might be able to go that direction with pak, but it's proably a bit difficult with the current set of rods 15:06:40 <|amethyst> but then there's minmay's suggestion of "just increase rod generation, and no need for Pakellas anymore" 15:06:49 <|amethyst> rods can theoretically hold any spell 15:06:55 <|amethyst> could be like a Sif (or Veh) of rods 15:07:15 well making rods containers for spells is something that we explicitely went away from 15:07:23 containers for existing spells, rather 15:08:23 If Pak is the Rod God, then Pak's wrath pretty much needs to kill you 15:08:28 or at least destroy all rods in the dungeon 15:08:45 Why is that? 15:08:48 <|amethyst> destroy all gifted rods, and give rod spells to monsters occasionally 15:09:16 Rods are strong if you've invested like 15+ evo, but that's a lot of investment 15:09:19 because rods are extremely powerful items, especially in the early game, and being able to guarantee access to one early and then leave the god would be sick. 15:09:41 oh, well I mean I think Pak wrath could be as trog wrath, if that's what you mean 15:09:48 or Oka wrath for that matter 15:09:48 yeah, that's pretty much what I mean 15:09:49 <|amethyst> most gift gods don't gift things that useful early 15:10:08 except if Pak gives the rod before *****, it should be even more painful 15:10:26 and if Pak doesn't, then Rod God Pak doesn't do anything until ***** in most games 15:10:36 The rod idea is kind of interesting, but what about the mp gifts? I'm not sure that the abilities are really helped by becoming rod-exclusive 15:10:44 I think its abilities might need some rethink 15:10:46 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:10:52 His abilities are definitely part of the problem 15:10:58 <|amethyst> I think the abilities would need to be completely redone in that case 15:11:24 <|amethyst> does anyone use quick charge on rods? 15:11:30 yeah I used it a bunch 15:11:32 I have 15:11:35 it can be really good 15:11:36 it's certainly very good 15:11:41 <|amethyst> hm 15:12:12 you sort of can yeah (because it's too cheap on piety, and you have a ton of mp in practice with !magic gifts) 15:12:17 I also use mp pots and then quick charge 15:12:42 <|amethyst> I think !magic gifts was a big overcompensation 15:12:48 that feedback between mp pots and the charging is probably the most insidious thing about the design 15:13:06 charging/surging 15:13:14 <|amethyst> the point of the !magic gifts wasn't to make the god more powerful, but to reduce tedium 15:13:55 !magic gifts are definitely a problem as far as I'm concerned 15:13:55 <|amethyst> (of using quick charge every single time you hit max mp) 15:13:55 well truthfully people were just underutilizing their mp 15:13:55 yeah 15:13:59 but mostly because it's irritating to use it efficiently 15:14:06 I'm not sure how much of an actual power increase it was compared to playing pretty optimally 15:14:11 but yeah we all probably agree they're a problem 15:14:47 <|amethyst> the overall amount of quick charging you can theoretically do might not have increased 15:14:55 <|amethyst> but the potions give you much more control over the timing of that 15:15:04 All else aside, we could remove the whole quick charge / MP gifts aspect from the god and have the god gift charges instead 15:15:22 or just not take charges in the first place 15:15:27 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:15:31 anyway if nothing else i think P should definitely be disabled in stable as gozag was previously, pending a rework 15:15:41 +1 15:15:54 <|amethyst> in 0.19 stable presumably? 15:15:57 yeah 15:15:58 <|amethyst> not a backport for 0.18 15:16:09 <|amethyst> that cat's out of the bag :) 15:16:43 Yeah, this is somewhat unprecedented, but 0.19 is a ways off and we may not even have to disable it by the time that comes 15:16:53 <|amethyst> @??porcupine name:poke_pig n_rpl 15:16:53 poke pig (02r) | Spd: 12 | HD: 4 | HP: 13-19 | AC/EV: 2/12 08(spiny 5d4) | Dam: 16 | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 141 | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 15:17:13 your can't fool me, that's a blue rat! 15:19:33 -!- Dracunos has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:20:31 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 15:20:40 Next april fools, every monster should be a {color} rat. Randomized each game. 15:20:55 :p 15:20:58 <|amethyst> The Sif Muna twitches its whiskers! 15:21:42 Lasty_: well we can roll out that and 256 colors at the same time 15:22:23 <|amethyst> that's not even enough colours! 15:22:34 better start removing monsters now in preparation 15:22:59 -!- Vizer has quit [Client Quit] 15:23:16 gammafunk: we just need to have enough color descriptors. We'll condense them down into our palette. 15:23:44 <|amethyst> wasn't even enough for crawl-ref Initial Revision 15:23:46 The vermillion rat gurgles! 15:26:03 <|amethyst> hmm, X11/rgb.txt has 753 lines here, that could work 15:26:03 <|amethyst> The AntiqueWhite3 rat shouts! 15:26:58 <|amethyst> hm, at least one of which is probably subject to trademark 15:27:21 we'll have to have a new colors repo with the colors we have license for 15:27:22 Let's just license the pantone colors 15:27:45 -!- halv has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 15:27:47 there should be enough if we use two letters 15:28:23 <|amethyst> wheals: it would be very close... depends on which dummy monsters you want to give a colour to 15:29:31 <|amethyst> wheals: grep -c '^ *MONS' mon-data.h # => 527 15:29:50 ??colours 15:29:51 colours[1/4]: black (unexplored), blue (duvessa), green (giant newt), cyan (metal wall), red (lava), magenta (orc wizard), brown (rat), lightgrey (stone wall), darkgrey (out of los), lightblue (saint roka), lightgreen (river rat), lightcyan (terence), lightred (rupert), lightmagneta (psyche), yellow (sigmund), white (quokka) 15:29:58 these are the only color descriptors you need 15:30:16 <|amethyst> IMO lightred should be "hill giant" there 15:30:22 <|amethyst> ?/big orange 15:30:23 Matching entries (2): hill_giant[1]: Big orange C with big orange clubs that hit for big orange damage and can be big orange trouble in melee. Sometimes carries a big orange throwing net. | orange_crystal_statue[1]: A big orange 8 that drains your big orange MP and gives you big orange confusion. Immune to disintegration, unlike granite statues. Also can feed on your big orange brain. 15:30:40 memorable uniques were prioritized 15:31:22 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:32:11 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:32:35 <|amethyst> huh, we only have one cyan unique 15:34:49 hm. i don't even know who it is. wiglaf? 15:35:00 <|amethyst> Joseph 15:35:31 Did we have another in the past? 15:35:46 my other guess was nikola, but he's lightcyan. i never would have known the difference 15:36:03 <|amethyst> gammafunk: iron giant 15:36:12 hrm, I mean in the main game 15:36:22 but good point 15:36:22 %0.10??jozef 15:36:23 Jozef (13@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 11 | HP: 90 | AC/EV: 0/9 | Dam: 18 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(73) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 1666 | Sp: teleport other, minor healing, b.venom (3d16), slow | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 15:36:23 %0.10?jozef 15:36:26 fr every colour has exactly 2 uniques 15:36:27 ah 15:36:42 make donald cyan 15:36:43 minor healing, nice 15:37:20 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:37:33 i think there's only one white unique too (josephine) 15:37:35 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I sampled several versions from 0.2 to present and didn't see any other 15:37:39 so make eustachio white 15:37:52 oh, ereshkigal 15:37:59 <|amethyst> Nergalle 15:38:01 <|amethyst> Chuck 15:38:26 Jessica's a white @ also? 15:38:34 <|amethyst> Jessica is lightgrey 15:38:40 <|amethyst> along with Gloorx 15:38:58 and cloud mage, and hellbinder 15:39:24 <|amethyst> ? 15:39:35 <|amethyst> cloud mage is supposed to be ETC_SILVER, hellbinder ETC_FIRE 15:39:59 oh 15:40:03 that doesn't show up in ?/m 15:40:28 <|amethyst> yeah, most parts of the UI don't support elemental colours 15:42:21 <|amethyst> just updated crawl-glyphs-narrow 15:42:30 <|amethyst> noticed I hadn't done that in a while 15:42:56 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:42:57 <|amethyst> there are no brown @s btw 15:44:11 |amethyst: !!! and I wanted to use that for entropy weavers back when 15:44:26 speaking of which, how happy is the rest of the devteam w/ current entropy weavers? 15:44:39 <|amethyst> Lasty_: @ is unique-only now, though 15:45:12 <|amethyst> I'm not entirely happy with their flavour 15:45:18 |amethyst: oh, right 15:45:19 we could use @ for atamantium golems 15:46:25 <|amethyst> in particular, being on 'p' but being more different from humans than several letters worth of monsters 15:46:44 |amethyst: having them on p definitely wasn't my first choice 15:46:55 for a while they were on x 15:47:45 where's crate when you need him 15:48:03 Shine the crate signal! 15:48:32 I don't like the way current entropy weavers so often lead to just retreating and resetting a fight 15:48:52 If they were better able to punish people for doing that I think they'd work better 15:49:04 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 15:49:05 why do they generate in depths 15:49:11 but also the current model stacks corrosion way too fast 15:49:37 minmay: Because they're a force multiplier. Not that they necessarily still make sense there. 15:49:42 (or ever did) 15:50:37 <|amethyst> Lasty_: could put entropy weaver on 'a' 15:50:43 <|amethyst> Lasty_: it has six arms and chitin 15:50:46 |amethyst: That would make sense 15:50:56 <|amethyst> granted, we have several letters worth of "six arms and chitin" 15:51:00 |amethyst: making them ants/formicids makes sense 15:51:02 <|amethyst> oh 15:51:04 <|amethyst> and rename them 15:51:07 eyah 15:51:09 yeah 15:51:11 <|amethyst> to formicid acetomancer 15:51:17 you just made me sad 15:51:32 s/sad/happy/ 15:51:50 I don't find them to be a force multiplier, to me their biggest effect is their melee; getting corroded stops you from using melee/ranged combat obviously but if there are other monsters around you can and should just leave 15:51:50 <|amethyst> no, it's fair 15:51:51 <|amethyst> I mixed Latin and Greek 15:51:58 <|amethyst> formicid oxymancer 15:52:12 actually the corrosion makes them less dangerous since it means it is easy to escape from them 15:52:17 oxymyrmidon 15:52:33 (IME) 15:53:00 minmay: yeah. They don't really have any way to punish you for running away, and they do punish you for staying. The band they spawn w/ isn't nearly enough to make that happen./ 15:53:11 I suppose if they spawned with elec wasps in depths that'd be more level-appropriate 15:53:21 <|amethyst> give them convoke 15:53:27 <|amethyst> or blink allies encircling 15:53:33 I'm saying the entropy weaver itself is level-inappropriate 15:53:41 surround acid clouds 15:53:45 not just the spiders that come with it 15:54:11 <|amethyst> replace all depths entropy weavers with caustic shrikes? 15:54:16 minmay: You don't think they'd enhance the challenge posed by a pack of elec wasps? Well, bad example because MR, I suppose. 15:54:17 that would be a great change 15:54:50 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:54:50 Lasty_: I don't, I think you are greatly overestimating how much they corrode a player that doesn't want to get corroded 15:55:01 minmay: possibly so. 15:55:13 I think the most dangerous part of entropy weavers is their melee attacks 15:55:13 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:55:36 I suppose at the end of the day I'm not sure the monster is really working out overall. 15:56:49 Corr and Weak are both debuffs that hurt your offense but don't really hurt your ability to run away, or even significantly increase the damage you take (unless you get tons of Corr stacks when doesn't happen by accident) 15:56:59 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 15:57:30 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:57:31 they might work better in early D where lots of characters are bad at escaping things they can't kill, not so much elsewhere 15:58:05 Yeah, I think that's about right. Weak in particular only gets inflicted by a weak melee speed-10 monsters 15:58:07 -s 15:58:11 if entropy weavers slowed you or something they might be scary (still not in depths though) 15:58:34 Lasty_: and entropy weavers are weak effectively-less-than-speed-10 monsters 15:58:53 Perhaps if they were a bit faster and their casting % was lower. 15:58:57 they might be better in Spider. 15:59:02 And then removed from depths. 15:59:42 I suppose there's no point in me entering this debate since I do not think Corr is a good status effect in the first place 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:00:54 but seriously, if something is in spider it probably shouldn't also be in depths :P 16:01:18 it reminds me of generating plain rats/bats in lair 16:02:08 Yeah I don't like seeing them in Depths, the band of ordinary spiders they have make them even more aggravating 16:02:12 I think Corr is a fine status effect, but I don't think we have many situations where it's used in a good way. Aside from that, I think what you're saying here makes a lot of sense. 16:02:33 I'm hoping to get some actual coding time this weekend, and I'll probably make some changes here. 16:02:43 One thing nice about spider is how most monsters are fast, so the Corr effect can be more impactful 16:03:02 yeah 16:03:17 IMO Corr works well on caustic shrikes... 16:03:24 and in Slime 16:03:36 yeah, it's certainly fine there since they have strong melee and quite high speed 16:03:43 @??caustic_shrike 16:03:43 caustic shrike (09b) | Spd: 20 | HD: 18 | HP: 87-126 | AC/EV: 8/18 | Dam: 3608(acid:7d3) | see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(80), 05fire, 02cold, 08blind | XP: 4609 | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 16:03:47 are those batty? 16:03:50 no 16:03:50 -!- olscumpy has joined ##crawl-dev 16:03:52 they're waspy 16:03:56 wish monster displayed that 16:04:00 by which I mean protestant. 16:04:14 <|amethyst> gammafunk: the power is in your hands 16:04:20 Lasty_: Should I link you an image meme of "Stop trying to make caustic bees happen. They're not going to happen." 16:04:31 |amethyst: I'll look into making that change 16:04:51 gammafunk: Caustic wasps. I had caustic wasps, and I let it all go. 16:05:07 My biggest dev regret. 16:05:12 <|amethyst> gammafunk: hm, might be nice to have MB_BATTY as well 16:05:16 <|amethyst> gammafunk: and display it in-game 16:05:28 why are caustic shrikes rBlind 16:05:37 Depths is not sending us its best bugs. They're sending us their spark wasps. 16:05:39 because of see invis 16:05:54 gammafunk: lol 16:05:54 didn't sinv get decoupled from rblind? 16:05:57 |amethyst: yeah, noting the movement would be cool 16:05:58 @??ancient lich 16:05:58 ancient lich (00L) | Spd: 10 | HD: 27 | HP: 90-127 | AC/EV: 20/10 | Dam: 2013(drain) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 02cold++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 8245 | Sp: b.cold (3d37), force lance (3d27), sum.greater demon, slow, invisibility / b.corrosive (3d28), crystal spear.. 16:06:00 in-game, I mean 16:06:04 this is not rBlind 16:06:05 <|amethyst> @??formicid 16:06:05 formicid (03a) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 34-49 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 15 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, see invisible | Res: 06magic(40) | XP: 228 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 16:06:08 Oh, huh 16:06:15 minmay: in that case, I have no idea why 16:06:19 I assume they have rBlind because someone copy-pasted from bats 16:06:30 but I'm like, at least 60% sure that shrikes do not use echolocation in real life 16:06:38 No, no one copy-pasted from bats. 16:07:17 <|amethyst> jellies? :) 16:07:27 JELLIES GLUED TO BEEES 16:07:37 with frickin' laser beams 16:08:03 Ya'll people need Ely 16:08:03 laser beems 16:08:55 <|amethyst> ??elyvilon[$] 16:08:56 ELYVILON! E-Explore! L-Levels!!! Y-Your! V-Violent! I-Inquisition! L-Leaves! O-Out! N-Nothing!!! Explore Levels!! Your Violent Inquisition Leaves Out Nothing!!! EXPLORE LEVELS!! YOUR VIOLENT INQUISITION LEAVES OUT NOTHING!!! 16:09:41 nice. 16:10:25 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:10:29 ??sif[$ 16:10:29 sif muna[3/3]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tReTlabrCPI 16:10:43 <|amethyst> ??trog[youtube] 16:10:44 trog[8/9]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZsehNvpYOY 16:12:26 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:16:22 -!- JoeMaro has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:18:36 -!- namelastname112 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:19:34 -!- yogidabear has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:19:50 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 16:20:11 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 16:20:37 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:20:57 -!- stev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:23:02 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:29:34 -!- simples has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:33:56 !learn add lasty_to_do[1 Corpse Rot spell level 16:33:56 lasty to do[1/16]: Corpse Rot spell level 16:34:01 !learn add lasty_to_do[1 entropy weavers 16:34:02 lasty to do[1/17]: entropy weavers 16:34:10 -!- andre_1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:35:15 your todo is as long as my learndb entry now! 16:35:28 have cards been rebalanced for invo yet? 16:35:57 because 3 friendly yaktaurs at 0 invo out of a plain summoning deck seems either really lucky or a bit too powerful 16:36:13 also, hi lasty 16:36:58 <|amethyst> ProzacElf: centaur/yaktaur is the lowest power level 16:37:06 <|amethyst> ProzacElf: of rangers 16:37:14 was rangers card always just friendlies? 16:37:20 <|amethyst> pretty sure 16:37:26 i thought they had a chance of coming up hostile but i may be wrong 16:37:41 alternatively, maybe they only had a chance of being hostile if you weren't with nem 16:37:45 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:38:24 <|amethyst> %git 7d9feff5 16:38:24 07tenofswords02 {PleasingFungus} * 0.16-a0-2124-g7d9feff: Rangers card to replace Bones, fix save compat a bit 10(1 year, 7 months ago, 3 files, 68+ 21-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7d9feff5cb5c 16:38:44 -!- CcS has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:38:52 although honestly, if a bad draw from nemelex is more like "it's just meh" instead of "haha, you're screwed" i'd have a more favorable opinion of using nem 16:39:30 wow, that was less than 2 years ago and i already don't remember what the bones card did 16:39:47 <|amethyst> I think just changing the monster list scaling would be sufficient 16:40:37 |amethyst: i am specifically thinking of replusiveness (repulsion? whatever) on "haha, you're screwed" 16:40:42 -!- Wax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:40:47 <|amethyst> :q 16:40:48 because an early draw of a hostile ugly thing is basically game ending 16:40:49 <|amethyst> err 16:41:27 <|amethyst> mpr("This type of card no longer exists!"); 16:41:38 hey ProzacElf 16:41:42 do the cards scale with piety and invo? 16:41:44 or just invo? 16:41:56 what up, dawg? 16:42:18 <|amethyst> piety * (invo*100 + 2500) / 2700 16:42:29 Been crazy busy with work stuff lately. TGIF. Looking forward to a quiet/crawl-y weekend 16:42:34 haha 16:42:36 cool 16:42:56 |amethyst: annoying. i assume that uses the actual numeric piety value too 16:43:06 so that you can't really know what it is beyond a fairly broad range 16:43:37 also, how does the power level of the card fit in there? 16:43:50 i assume there's still a difference in power level between plain/ornate/legendary 16:43:52 <|amethyst> ProzacElf: power level is derived from the power and the rarity 16:44:10 lol 16:44:10 <|amethyst> !source _get_power_level 16:44:11 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/decks.cc#l1230 16:44:19 <|amethyst> randomly 16:44:22 i now recall why i never liked nemelex much anyway 16:44:43 but look, i'm giving him and new monk a try, simultaneously 16:45:00 masochist! 16:45:03 i'm kind of ambivalent about giving monks weapon choice 16:45:28 i almost feel like just giving them unarmed or staff would be better than giving them the half-assed choice 16:45:37 like the skald/warper choice 16:46:33 as in the choice between unarmed and staff 16:46:52 speaking of which, and i blame you lasty..... 16:47:39 i had a guy with ru that had just sacrificed evo instead of resist, and i found the elemental staff in lair like 5 mins later 16:48:13 and an rc+/rf+/mr+ ring in the same general area 16:48:31 haha 16:48:31 that would have been the perfect time to sac resist 16:48:33 but nooooo 16:48:41 To be fair elemental staff is a tough weapon to use in the second half of the game or so 16:49:01 yeah, but that ring would have allowed me to swap to a lajatang without much risk 16:49:09 i was even a Fo, so i could've still used a shield 16:49:19 -!- link108 has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 16:49:51 but i was like "man, the elemental staff is pretty useless if you can't evo your way into the elemental effects" 16:50:05 i guess if you're just using it as a resist stick 16:50:14 but i hate that 16:50:34 even if i have a resist stick type weapon i want it to be useful when i hit a dude 16:54:12 ??elemental_staff 16:54:14 elemental staff[1/2]: A +3 staff (not quarterstaff) {rElec rF++ rC++ MR++ AC+5}. On melee attacks, rolls two (evocations/27) checks, and if either succeeds, it does an extra 10-24 damage that randomly checks one of rF, rC, rElec, AC. Calculate your trigger chances http://anydice.com/program/52e7 here. 16:56:36 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 17:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:02:53 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:02:56 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:03:28 -!- olscumpy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:06:17 ProzacElf: "the half-assed choice"? 17:07:46 <|amethyst> could give them staff/unarmed choice, and also start them with a god, maybe give them a choice of two or three depending on race 17:08:26 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 17:09:39 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:12:14 i don't understand at all... 17:12:24 am i missing a joke? 17:12:26 i like jokes. 17:12:44 <|amethyst> ??priest 17:12:44 priest[1/1]: In 0.12 and older, a class that started out with a quarterstaff, a robe, some {Invocations} skill, and piety with a god. Priests of most non-evil races started with Zin (they get some healing potions), and Hill Orcs started with Beogh (they got a hand axe instead of a quarterstaff). 17:12:51 ok 17:13:00 good, i feel better now. 17:13:01 <|amethyst> oh, I thought they had unarmed/qstaff 17:13:20 i guess spriggans can use qstaves? since agnes uses a la 17:13:22 *a laj 17:13:30 !lg * fepr 17:13:32 397. pinkiepie the Pious (L1 FePr of Zin), slain by a ball python on D:1 on 2014-09-24 22:20:01, with 63 points after 444 turns and 0:03:06. 17:13:39 quite the name 17:13:42 !hs * fepr 17:13:43 397. madreisz the Sabretooth (L27 FePr of Zin), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2013-03-14 10:53:28, with 8734080 points after 194489 turns and 20:33:37. 17:14:29 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 17:15:07 !lg krusk x=src 17:15:09 5. [src=cao] Krusk the Shield-Bearer (L1 MiFi), quit the game on D:1 (lightli_iron_boxes) on 2016-04-28 01:46:48, with 0 points after 0 turns and 0:00:14. 17:15:17 someone needs to talk to that player 17:15:23 'please play a supported version' 17:15:34 i guess it's not nice after they made it to xl27... 17:16:06 <|amethyst> !lm * crash x=cv,vlong 17:16:06 !lm krusk x=tiles 17:16:08 13896. [2016-06-17 21:14:28] [cv=0.17;vlong=0.17.2] Krusk the Invulnerable Farmer (L27 MiMo of Gozag) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed on turn 888128. (Depths:4) 17:16:08 1142. [2016-06-17 21:14:28] [tiles=true] Krusk the Invulnerable Farmer (L27 MiMo of Gozag) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed on turn 888128. (Depths:4) 17:16:22 <|amethyst> %git stone_soup-0.17 17:16:22 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.17.2: Fix a hiscores crash (10340) 10(10 weeks ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/21b64f0e3517 17:16:51 hrm, would be funny if that was a crash introduced by a cherry-picked fix, i guess 17:17:44 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 17:18:35 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: Reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold, BYE] 17:19:43 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:22:56 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 17:25:21 !lm krusk x=src 17:25:23 1143. [2016-06-17 21:22:55] [src=cao] Krusk the Invulnerable Farmer (L27 MiMo of Gozag) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed on turn 888127. (Depths:4) 17:25:25 hrm 17:25:34 -!- olscumpy has joined ##crawl-dev 17:26:12 every time i look, they're not there... 17:28:27 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:28:57 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 17:31:03 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 17:31:18 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 17:33:10 %-% 17:33:22 -!- JimmahDean has quit [] 17:34:04 -!- olscumpy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:37:40 MarvinPA: By the way, what would you think about having sif piety gain be a mix of the current system and exploration piety? Piety gain based on magical school training, but reduced, together with exploration piety? 17:38:17 hmm, might make it a bit fiddlier to balance but that seems like it could be reasonable 17:38:30 |amethyst mentioned piety for spotting monsters, which I'm ok with, but doesn't feel better than piety for kills nor really enough to satisfy people who care about the thematic connection 17:39:03 i don't really have any opinion on exploration vs kills vs seeing monsters mostly, yeah 17:39:20 maybe I should take a stab at the mixed thing then, if it looks like the numbers can be made reasonable 17:40:08 yeah, i've mostly been putting off doing any work on the piety changes just because it seems like more effort to test that it's reasonable than the other stuff i've been working on :P 17:40:53 yeah, I don't mind doing some sif testing, I just need to understand the piety gain numbers better 17:40:56 so if you're up for having a shot at it i'll do the easier bit of playtesting :P 17:41:03 cool 17:42:26 -!- WorkSight has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:43:17 mixed sounds confusing 17:44:09 Seeing monsters is a bit like learning stuff, so I can imagine how Sif would like that. That said, I've always felt that that piety gain mechanic felt very similar to exploration. 17:45:14 -!- Mekire has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:45:35 Lasty: it's similar to exploration, and probably bad in the same ways that I think exploration piety is bad 17:46:03 Yeah mixed is harder for players to understand I suppose, but not terribly so 17:46:11 What're the ways exploration piety is bad? 17:46:12 the confusing part is just sif's current system 17:46:18 yeah, that too 17:46:25 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 17:46:30 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:46:43 I also like the idea of making god piety decay more standardized -- pick one of the current rates and set them all at that rate. 17:46:53 and also make Fedhas piety decay 17:47:09 Lasty: It's less good than piety for kills because the interesting thing in crawl is fighting monsters. You also don't get weird piety bursts for just entering an open level 17:47:34 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:47:35 what about just exp piety 17:47:45 -!- olscumpy has joined ##crawl-dev 17:47:49 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:47:53 it's similar to piety for kills but not exactly 17:48:00 Lasty: i think it's pretty reasonable to have a few different rates of decay for some gods but it could definitely be standardised more 17:48:02 The piety gain per exploration isn't high enough that you really get a meaningful burst from entering an open level... 17:48:23 MarvinPA: I don't think it's inherently bad, but I think it would be good if the differences were picked very carefully 17:48:26 Lasty: I've gotten like multiple nem gifts from entereing levels before 17:48:27 MarvinPA: and communicated well 17:48:31 gammafunk: whoa 17:48:32 it's sort of noticeable that you often get gifts from- yeah what gammafunk said 17:48:36 gammafunk: never seen that 17:48:43 dang 17:48:50 Multiple just means "two" but yeah 17:48:54 still 17:49:08 maybe that's a problem w/ how Nem gives piety and/or gifts 17:49:27 don't think i ever got multiple, but in my game just now it was definitely noticeable that gifts on entering a level were fairly common 17:50:02 I wonder if a god that gave piety just for entering new levels could be viable 17:50:22 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 17:50:22 s/viable/a good design/ 17:50:46 It's not the most common thing, but I don't like the idea of taking on more risk by killing more monsters giving me not as much piety as if I were to just explore more and fight fewer monsters than I could be 17:51:11 Maybe for a god that actually de-emphasizes killing monsters, exploration piety is a good idea 17:51:29 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:51:45 Old ely is certainly made a good deal of sense, less so with new ely (outside of flavor reasons) 17:51:49 the fabled stealth-god-that-gives-xp-for-seeing-monsters 17:51:56 haha 17:52:07 Dithmangoes 17:52:24 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 17:52:32 maybe I'm confusing the god that gives xp for eating fruit, actually 17:52:58 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:53:36 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 17:54:34 gammafunk: we have a god that gives piety for not eating fruit, so why not? 17:55:00 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 17:55:31 bring back chei's fill-your-tummy piety 17:55:48 -!- shummie has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:57:45 man, that must be before my time 17:58:12 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:58:22 was very early in chei's implementation, you got piety for eating while already full i think? and the message was something very silly about chei appreciating you having a full tummy 17:58:39 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:58:55 nerf "gourmand 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:13 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 18:00:40 ultimately all the forms of piety gain turn out hard to distinguish from killing monsters 18:00:41 because as you explore you kill a lot of monsters 18:00:45 and to gain xp you kill monsters 18:00:45 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 18:00:57 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:59 to get more items for jiyva to eat you kill monsters 18:01:12 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 18:01:15 minmay: well, yeah, playing crawl mostly means killing monsters. 18:01:36 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 18:01:42 so I think exploration/xp/item piety is fake differentiation 18:02:48 they all give you piety for exploring the dungeon 18:03:24 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 18:03:43 krusk... 18:03:50 minmay: J piety is a little different, because you can hoard it up pre-conversion. i don't know how it is with 2-level worc, but you used to be able to just take your jellies on a tour of orc and go from . to ****** 18:04:04 -!- WorkSight has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:04:26 having already cleared orc, of course 18:04:40 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:05:08 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 18:07:43 i'd agree that most god piety systems are as much flavor as they are mechanical differentiation 18:07:45 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 18:07:48 most of the ones we have at present, i guess 18:08:32 maybe even that's too broad. 'the difference between explore & kill piety', i guess 18:09:09 psst 18:09:25 any botlords around? !polytheist is fucked 18:09:37 it still counts uka, not uska 18:09:45 it's just waiting on a sequell update 18:09:51 ah 18:09:55 Hail, Botlords 18:09:57 Lord Of All Bots 18:10:29 i think there's a pull request that's to be merged, or has already been merged and sequell just needs restarting, or something like that 18:10:48 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 18:10:58 -!- CcS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:12:38 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:13:39 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 18:14:14 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 18:14:16 yeah the commit to sequell has been made 18:14:21 but I think snark hasn't restarted it 18:14:30 well that and incorporated the new config, I guess 18:15:01 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-a0-684-gf760df0 (34) 18:15:20 amalloy: in practice it's hard to get jiyva piety below ****** whether you tour orc/snake:4 or not, but yes 18:18:15 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:19:22 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 18:20:53 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 18:22:18 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 18:23:47 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:24:02 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 18:24:52 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 18:28:13 ugh, i have to draw a wisp at some point 18:31:53 do any of us really have to do anything 18:32:28 03Lasty02 07* 0.19-a0-685-g39cdb9e: Remove entropy weavers from Vault and Depths (minmay) 10(35 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/39cdb9ed92fb 18:32:28 03Lasty02 07* 0.19-a0-686-g9626b45: Make entropy weavers faster and reduce their odds of casting Corrosion 10(32 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9626b45cfa89 18:32:28 03Lasty02 07* 0.19-a0-687-g35db334: Make entropy weavers into formicids 10(16 minutes ago, 2 files, 16+ 15-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/35db3344b618 18:33:28 burrowing..... 18:34:06 comes w/ the formicid territory. 18:34:10 i feel like they'd be better as non-specific 'a' without burrowing thrown in 18:34:11 <|amethyst> just say they dissolved their mandibles off 18:34:37 <|amethyst> or that formicids have heteromorphic castes and players are a different one 18:35:06 sexism! 18:35:16 I'm fine w/ not burrowing. Was just going for consistency. 18:35:25 player formicids don't even dig at all times so it could just not have the tag, maybe it's low on permafood 18:35:25 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: nah, they're all females 18:35:31 i can't believe that all playable formicids are [male|female] 18:35:34 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: the males are useless drones 18:35:44 ah 18:35:44 and monster formicids don't really exist so there's nothing to be consistent with there 18:35:46 right, of course! 18:36:05 PleasingFungus: presuming only two formicid sexes! 18:36:57 well, more presuming that castes were purely a function of sex 18:37:02 which was a rookie mistake. 18:37:02 Lasty: i assume you're doing that just to have an excuse to make spider suck for vampires again 18:37:16 "oh, they're ant-people, they don't have blood" 18:37:17 ProzacElf_: I don't think this changes that... 18:37:44 lol 18:38:00 i fought hard to get entropy weavers to have blood, dammit 18:38:59 No Blood For Entropy Weavers 18:39:11 <|amethyst> ProzacElf_: formicids have blood, oddly 18:39:17 <|amethyst> M_WARM_BLOOD | ... 18:39:23 lol 18:39:34 i think i was responsible for that 18:39:51 i can probably find the mantis report 18:40:14 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 18:40:22 i was like "they're a p glyph and the dead tile has red blood. clearly vampires can feed on them" 18:40:24 to paraphrase 18:40:44 argumentum ad corpse blood tile 18:40:49 incroyable... 18:41:33 are they *really* humanoid if they have funny blood? 18:42:05 <|amethyst> vulcans are humanoid :P 18:42:20 i do appreciate the equal mix of console- and tiles-specific minutae, though 18:42:23 i mean, sure, for all of our politcal differences, are we all not p? 18:43:04 (we are weave-o?) 18:44:02 actually, we're stairdancers 18:45:06 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:50:00 dare to be stupid? 18:50:56 -!- FunkyBomb has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:55:50 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:59:26 PleasingFungus: you're going to hate me for this 18:59:34 @??formicid 18:59:34 formicid (03a) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 34-49 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 15 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, see invisible | Res: 06magic(40) | XP: 228 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 18:59:43 but actually the color of the blood on the blood tile literally represents whether vampires can drain it 19:00:02 !lg * killer=formicid 19:00:02 so if you have a red-clood corpse tile and can't drain it as Vp it's a bug 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:03 20. TheQuake the Slasher (L5 NaCK of Xom), slain by a formicid on D:3 on 2014-07-30 06:43:44, with 184 points after 2420 turns and 0:09:03. 19:00:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:00:11 ontoclasm: do it the other way, obviously 19:00:18 yes 19:00:32 except that exporting crawl monster data to tilesheets is a huge pita 19:00:35 hence the current state of corpses 19:00:37 generally 19:00:58 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 19:01:54 %git :/formicid monster 19:01:54 07pubby02 * 0.13-a0-1600-g2dd0ec9: Improve formicid monster gear. 10(2 years, 10 months ago, 2 files, 19+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2dd0ec917bc9 19:03:29 -!- flappity has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:07:13 don't green-blooded-corpse monsters still leave red bloodstains on walls/floors 19:07:24 probably! 19:08:39 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-687-g35db334 (34) 19:08:45 minmay: yes 19:09:12 i would prefer they left green bloodstains but it's beyond my coding ability 19:09:22 (because it would look cooler) 19:09:54 -!- duralumin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:11:36 -!- destrovel has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:11:38 johnstein: no there isn't 19:12:45 seems like it should be pretty easy to change, since blood-spattery things already have to check whether the monster has blood 19:13:24 it'd also make the need for a working rc option to disable blood spatters even bigger for console players, though 19:15:06 the tiles code is the tricky part 19:15:09 i i r c 19:15:24 could be wrong on that! just my vague recollection 19:15:54 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:17:22 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 19:19:42 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 19:22:24 <|amethyst> could reuse the mold flag 19:22:34 <|amethyst> or does fedhas still use that? 19:22:42 <|amethyst> s/flag/kprop/ 19:23:06 given that giant spores no longer spawn except for fedhasites, it's probably not necessary 19:23:18 since you don't really need to hunt them down 19:23:35 also since you can't evolve mold anymore (RIP) 19:24:06 <|amethyst> there are actuall two kprops there 19:24:43 <|amethyst> mold and glowing mold, though you can't set the latter from a map 19:25:07 <|amethyst> oh 19:25:17 <|amethyst> blood has several flags 19:25:22 -!- eliotn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:27:27 <|amethyst> used in blood_rotation() 19:27:51 <|amethyst> hm, but I guess that's fine actually 19:28:00 you just need to duplicate them all 19:28:06 <|amethyst> actually 19:28:10 or i guess split them off 19:28:30 <|amethyst> unless you want to be able to have red blood spatters on the left and green on the right, you don't need to change those 19:29:26 <|amethyst> hm 19:29:44 Begin the Blood Rotation 19:29:52 <|amethyst> yeah, those (also OLD_BLOOD) are orthogonal to FPROP_BLOODY 19:30:32 <|amethyst> so you could have FPROP_BLOODY and FPROP_ICHOR, then for example FPROP_BLOODY | FPROP_ICHOR | FPROP_BLOOD_EAST for a purple stain on the east 19:30:44 i love ichor 19:30:48 don't forget........ 19:30:51 FPROP_PRUNEY! 19:31:04 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:31:28 <|amethyst> maybe need a whole three bits for blood colour 19:31:46 <|amethyst> full console 8-colour spectrum 19:31:56 <|amethyst> s/spectrum/gamut/ 19:31:59 8 bits once we get 256 colours... 19:32:13 <|amethyst> FPROP_BLOOD_BISQUE 19:32:28 that's my favorite kind of soup 19:33:09 <|amethyst> FPROP_BLOOD_MILDLY_ELEVATED_TRIGLYCERIDES 19:33:37 <|amethyst> FPROP_BLOOD_PUDDING 19:33:45 <|amethyst> FPROP_BLOODY_HELL 19:35:11 tile_lang=rude 19:35:25 lewd, and downright crude 19:37:20 -!- Warrigal is now known as tswett 19:38:25 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:38:35 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:39:04 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:39:14 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:42:59 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:43:16 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 19:47:48 please don't use the b word in here 19:49:14 beogh 19:50:00 -!- halv has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 19:55:22 -!- WorkSight has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 19:59:45 bacbeth? 20:00:13 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:30 the scottish god 20:05:08 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:07:31 beogh probably drinks a lot 20:11:02 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:12:49 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:13:46 i imagine half of beogh's internal monologue boils down to "shit. which one of these guys was my messiah again? i'd better let all of them smite just in case" 20:14:38 !lg * ckiller=orc_priest|orc_high_priest|saint_roka ktyp=smiting 20:14:39 No games for * (ckiller=orc_priest|orc_high_priest|saint_roka ktyp=smiting). 20:15:02 !lg * ckiller=orc_priest|orc_high_priest|saint_roka kaux=divine_providence 20:15:03 No games for * (ckiller=orc_priest|orc_high_priest|saint_roka kaux=divine_providence). 20:15:13 -!- deltaromeo has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:15:16 !lg * ckiller=orc_priest|orc_high_priest|saint_roka kaux=by_divine_providence 20:15:18 186282. Yosef1995 the Skirmisher (L4 DrBe of Trog), blasted by an orc priest (divine providence) on D:3 on 2016-06-18 00:10:03, with 135 points after 2886 turns and 0:14:29. 20:15:40 some good smitin 20:15:43 !lg * ckiller=orc_priest|orc_high_priest|saint_roka kaux=by_divine_providence beogh 20:15:45 1567. ClownBabyJr the Chopper (L4 HOFi of Beogh), blasted by an orc priest (divine providence) on D:3 on 2016-06-17 18:40:51, with 82 points after 1619 turns and 0:01:37. 20:15:49 wow, good name 20:16:09 I'm just trying to get a ballpark for the number of smites beogh performs per day 20:16:57 i figure one or two, easy. 20:17:49 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 20:19:25 a thousand 20:19:25 nicolae-: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 20:19:29 :O 20:19:31 !messages 20:19:31 (1/2) regret-index said (3d 19h 41m 23s ago): I've got plans for hells stair vaults, so if you can produce anything decent for Cocytus... 20:19:53 !messages 20:19:53 (1/1) chequers said (18h 4m 11s ago): were you going to open up your closed overflow altars that require going downstairs and back up? 20:20:40 !tell chequers i have a version of it that's opened up and doesn't have stairs, i was either going to suggest reducing the hidden temple version to weight: 1 or just removing it entirely 20:20:49 nicolae-: OK, I'll let chequers know. 20:25:37 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:26:28 what i really wanted was red, green, and purple blood 20:26:38 don't we all 20:26:42 yes 20:26:55 i dunno what i'd give purple blood to but i know i'll find something 20:27:15 ugly things 20:27:19 mm 20:27:24 mutagenic meat things 20:27:33 anyway, |amethyst seemed to think that was plausible 20:27:50 edible -> red, inedible -> green, mut -> purple 20:27:56 are there any other types of chunk 20:28:15 any more 20:30:19 my vague feeling is 'no' 20:30:40 but then you'd still have red blood for the various types of edible insects 20:30:48 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:31:31 well, uh, REALISTICALLY 20:31:38 * ontoclasm adjusts his glasses 20:31:40 The Roach That Bleeds 20:32:06 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:32:48 and if it bleeds, you can kill it 20:33:00 so wait 20:33:09 you can eat bug corpses, but not drain them as Vp? 20:33:35 -!- Nyvrem has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:34:13 i think this is a traditional Minmay Complaint? 20:34:20 right, it came up like a month or two ago 20:34:30 i don't really care myself, since vp are dumb regardless 20:34:32 and smell funny 20:37:28 gressup (L13 DrMo) ASSERT(in_non_diamond_int(r.start)) in 'ray.cc' at line 217 failed. (Lair:5) 20:37:31 -!- nicolae- has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:37:46 that's actually the first time in my life I've thought about how vampires smell 20:38:58 mothballs 20:41:28 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 20:41:37 do vampires vape 20:41:59 yes 20:42:07 only vapires 20:42:25 https://twitter.com/grovernorquist/status/703309700750839810 20:43:25 vape... vamp. vape... vamp. repeat 20:43:32 makes sense 20:43:35 fr evocable vape 20:43:48 i've got a cloak for that... 20:44:35 robe of the keef 20:46:21 h - a +2 e-cigarette {pain} 20:47:20 or uyu've found the real identity of the amulet of harm... 20:48:16 fr weed god 20:48:27 dith! 20:48:58 *anagrams DITHMENOS into SMOKE WEED EVERY DAY* holy shit i had no idea 20:49:50 why do you think you get smoke when you're hurt? it's to kill the pain... 20:49:50 surely fedhas is the most marijuana-y god 20:49:56 smoke bleed every day 20:49:58 fedhas is a mod on r/trees 20:50:36 fedhas also does mushrooms 20:50:36 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:50:43 http://reddit.com/r/marijuanaenthusiasts 20:51:28 lmao 20:52:04 i think there are also like 20 tree-themed porn subreddits 20:52:18 how do you get more than four or five themes out of that 20:52:51 obviously there's overlap. competition! 20:52:55 it's nature's way 20:53:15 usually every topic has like 5-10 subreddits 20:53:40 like, pick a video game, there are probably at least 5 subs dedicated to it 20:53:55 reddit. crazy stuff. 20:56:53 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:58:55 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:59:33 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:09 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 21:00:46 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 21:01:00 -!- fufumann has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:29 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 21:02:02 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 21:02:33 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:03:10 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 21:03:44 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:04:23 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 21:05:01 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:05:35 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 21:06:09 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:06:48 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 21:07:22 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 21:07:23 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 21:07:57 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:08:41 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 21:09:09 -!- scummos| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:09:51 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 21:10:26 -!- scummos| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:11:00 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 21:11:37 -!- scummos| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:12:10 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 21:12:46 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 21:13:22 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 21:13:59 -!- scummos| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:14:37 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 21:15:11 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 21:15:49 -!- scummos| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:16:15 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 21:16:23 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 21:16:58 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 21:17:36 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 21:18:13 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 21:18:48 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:18:55 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 21:19:17 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]] 21:19:24 -!- scummos| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:20:05 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 21:20:36 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 21:21:11 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 21:21:49 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 21:22:25 -!- scummos| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:22:29 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:23:02 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 21:23:36 -!- scummos| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:24:08 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]] 21:24:12 -!- scummos| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:24:50 -!- scummos| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:25:25 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 21:26:02 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 21:26:37 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 21:27:16 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 21:27:53 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 21:28:03 what's the upper limit on paralyse duration? 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scummos| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:29:18 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 22:29:48 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:30:24 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:31:00 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:31:07 i'm not sure any of them ARE movie references 22:31:37 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:32:02 you're slacking off, nicolae 22:32:12 !lg * kmap~~nicolae 22:32:13 5088. OffsetSiren the Changer (L2 OpTm), slain by an orc wizard (a +0 dagger) on D:2 (nicolae_ru_great_annihilating_truth) on 2016-06-18 00:00:56, with 22 points after 795 turns and 0:00:55. 22:32:14 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 22:32:17 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:32:23 oh, there's references, just not movie ones. none that i can remember anyway 22:32:50 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:33:17 hm, nicolae_tso_carved_into_rock is vaguely influenced by the temple of petra that was in indiana jones and the last crusade but that temple exists irl 22:33:27 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:33:27 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:33:28 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. (Depths:4) 22:34:07 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:34:36 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:35:04 ah, there we go. nicolae_orc_jurassic_orc. which i'm genuinely surprised is still around. i've never seen anyone comment on it, either, which leads to me suspect it might never actually generate. 22:35:12 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:35:51 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:36:31 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:37:06 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:37:39 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:37:57 !lg * kmap~~jurassic 22:37:58 No games for * (kmap~~jurassic). 22:38:03 !lg * map~~jurassic 22:38:07 1. MrDespairSA the Bludgeoner (L12 OgBe of Trog), shot by Saint Roka (bolt) on Orc:4 (nicolae_orc_jurassic_orc) on 2015-11-12 05:49:58, with 21206 points after 15777 turns and 0:36:15. 22:38:10 oh, huh 22:38:17 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:38:19 well, it is weight 1 22:38:45 also, quick question, i saw earlier some discussion about ditching or suppressing pakellas. how likely is this, so i know not to make temple vaults for 22 gods 22:38:50 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:39:28 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:40:03 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:40:37 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:41:12 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:41:49 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:42:32 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:43:05 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:43:42 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:44:17 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:44:55 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:45:26 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:46:03 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:46:38 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:47:16 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:47:56 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:48:33 ^mapstat Temple 1 22:48:37 Ran crawl -mapstat Temple:1 -iters 100 -> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/mapstat/Temple-1_johnstein_1466218112906.log 22:49:34 ^mapstat Temple 1 22:49:38 Ran crawl -mapstat Temple:1 -iters 100 -> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/mapstat/Temple-1_johnstein_1466218173247.log 22:49:38 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:50:16 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 22:51:24 nicolae-: the thinking is that the god needs a rework to be included in the next stable release, which is some ways off, but all I've heard that sounds decisive is disabling it if it's not ready 22:51:41 rework, huh. *pulls out big folder labelled IDEAS* 22:52:09 i don't actually have many but it does seem weird that the experimentation aspect of the flavor doesn't really seem to come up at all playwise 22:54:40 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:55:05 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 22:55:45 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 22:56:15 -!- scummos| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:56:56 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 22:57:04 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:57:34 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 22:58:03 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 22:58:43 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 22:59:15 Krusk (L27 MiMo) ASSERT(shop) in 'godabil.cc' at line 4622 failed. 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23:39:09 powerful makh buffs 23:39:26 xom uses a random skill each game 23:39:33 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 23:40:12 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 23:40:47 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 23:41:25 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 23:42:00 -!- scummos| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:42:40 -!- scummos| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:43:15 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 23:43:44 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 23:44:02 !commit replace invocations with blasphemy 23:44:03 03johnstein ⛐ 0.19-a0-178-g206b886: replace invocations with blasphemy 10(in the future, 42 files, 687+ 626-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=206b886 23:44:21 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 23:44:43 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 23:44:54 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:44:57 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 23:45:05 have you seen the atheist invo titles? 23:45:13 fr: atheist invocations 23:45:41 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 23:46:12 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 23:46:56 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 23:47:26 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 23:48:01 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 23:49:15 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 23:49:50 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 23:50:25 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 23:51:42 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 23:52:12 -!- scummos| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:52:18 -!- doll has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:52:53 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 23:53:24 -!- scummos| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:53:40 xom uses a random skill each game for its nonexistant invocations 23:53:41 good 23:54:01 -!- scummos| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:54:35 -!- scummos| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:54:52 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:55:16 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest93685 23:55:20 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 23:55:52 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:56:23 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 23:57:15 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 23:57:36 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:58:07 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 23:58:11 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:58:21 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:58:53 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 23:59:27 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:59:43 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-687-g35db334 (34) 23:59:59 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit]