00:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:23 ??violent 00:00:23 I don't have a page labeled violent in my learndb. 00:00:36 ??nonviolent 00:00:36 I don't have a page labeled nonviolent in my learndb. 00:00:45 <|amethyst> to get fedhas piety, you have to either hurt (some) undead, or have corpses 00:00:58 <|amethyst> so that's kind of violent compared to exploration or item-eating 00:01:05 <|amethyst> not sure why N isn't listed 00:01:07 |amethyst: you could wait for monsters to die naturally 00:01:08 |amethyst: in my F games monster just mysteriously die, I didn't do anything to them I swear 00:01:42 <|amethyst> You kite the ogre. The ogre succumbs to old age! 00:01:42 fr: timeless species that can even surive the outside world ending 00:01:48 *survive 00:04:24 any thoughts on increasing inventory space by way of not having equipped items live in player's inventory? 00:05:36 -!- Jafet has joined ##crawl-dev 00:05:52 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:06:01 philosophically, i approve. practically, it seems like trouble 00:06:04 in terms of ui & code 00:07:12 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:07:24 ...and in terms of beer? 00:07:29 free! 00:07:32 niiice 00:08:23 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:09:01 -!- andre_1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:09:48 -!- crate has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:11:11 -!- Elitist has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:13:11 inventory menu can be broken into 2 sections. one side backpack other side equipment. character overview can remove the assigned letter and '-' 00:14:09 why do we want to increase inventory space? if we did want to, there would be simpler ways than this 00:14:19 only thing i've thought of that would cause an issue by removing assigned key is evoking a wielded item 00:14:23 see eg grunt's (i think) 62-item branch 00:15:02 amalloy: imo, the philosophical justification for a limited inventory is to limit the player's tactical options 00:15:08 amalloy, it's not just about increasing inv space, it's that it really complicates the inv menu by listing all the crap im wearing (6 armour slots) 00:15:21 e..g #s of potions, scrolls, evocables, swap weapons, whatever 00:16:04 currently equipped items aren't 'tactical options'. thus, in principle 00:17:41 -!- Amphouse has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:18:31 -!- tupper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:19:00 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I think that ceased to be an actual justification for anything when weight was removed 00:19:13 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I guess that's not entirely true, wands eat up a lot of space 00:19:27 PleasingFungus: i mean, it seems pretty clear that freeing up more slots for non-equipped items would give the player more tactical options 00:19:57 |amethyst: now that decks are gone, remove wands next 00:20:14 i have no particular problem with restricting inventory space to fewer than 52 items 00:21:12 in principle, in version of crawl where using floor items goes further than it has (though we've already made great steps), it could be interesting to have a race that has 'smaller inventory' as a drawback 00:21:40 <|amethyst> Titan race that cannot pick up consumables 00:21:44 <|amethyst> only use them from the floor 00:21:49 dang, i was just about to mention hydraslayer 00:21:53 |amethyst too fast 00:22:04 fine, but titans lose lightning bolt 00:22:16 just for my poor elves 00:22:38 also monster titans gain the ability to use floor items, to make up for the jelly nerf 00:23:19 <|amethyst> Someone needs to make an itemdest+weight+monster pickup fork of crawl 00:23:25 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-660-gb2633be: Give mesmerise to obsidian statues 10(64 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b2633be6ac79 00:23:31 doomrl is a successful RL that has very limited inventory 00:23:31 <|amethyst> Dungeon Crawl: Pain Soup 00:24:01 but that game is much less complex item wise, and even in that game I don't find the item management that results to be particularly fun 00:24:18 <|amethyst> the lack of permalevels is important there, too 00:24:30 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:24:51 <|amethyst> it means that limited inv space requires agonizing strategic choices, rather than autotravel 00:25:20 yeah, the decisions become more strategic, but like I said they're not the most interesting 00:25:33 a lot of weird "let me use this stimpack in this way now so I can pick this up" 00:25:50 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:26:31 %git simplesif 00:26:31 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.17-a0-82-ga3829c7: Allow spell-less players to worship Sif 10(1 year, 3 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a3829c75c2cf 00:26:33 PleasingFungus: you know, the thing about that is that is that it's going to make people go track down /lighting + ?noise to basically obviate that, or maybe carry them around to some extent 00:26:39 not like they're common enough to really care 00:26:52 well there's also just using fog 00:26:55 gammafunk: it seems like that'd be more relevant against more commons mesmerize/fear enemies 00:26:58 *more common 00:27:24 well I mean, going down to track something that can break the effect 00:27:32 but now that I think about it, that's just fog 00:27:33 wrt carrying them around, i mean 00:27:36 the thing about that is that is that it's... *pop* 00:27:53 yeah they're not common enough to worry 00:28:15 give them torment, clearly 00:28:27 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:28:39 <|amethyst> hm, is it a nerf? 00:28:50 |amethyst: spell freqs? 00:28:59 i have no idea what i was doing with those 00:29:00 if they summon demons less, then yeah 00:29:10 <|amethyst> yeah, since once they have mesmerised you they have a total freq of 66 00:29:12 which they'd have to 00:29:17 -!- tupper has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:29:18 <|amethyst> could make it 50 50 33 00:29:24 |amethyst: well also statues can only cast spells 00:29:34 or 45 45 30, arbitrarily. either works for me 00:29:35 so they can't roll anything other than a spell 00:29:46 I think unless you increase their speed 00:29:48 imo choose your favorite and push it 00:29:48 <|amethyst> hmm 00:29:50 no matter the freq it will be a nerf 00:29:54 <|amethyst> oh 00:29:54 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-659-g8260ecf (34) 00:29:56 <|amethyst> gammafunk: well 00:30:06 <|amethyst> gammafunk: once they have mesmerised you, they shouldn't try again 00:30:18 sure, but you can pretty trivially break it 00:30:19 <|amethyst> _ms_waste_of_time 00:30:40 it's very thematic, I'm not sure it will work well in practice save on people who maybe just don't know hiw mesm works 00:30:43 <|amethyst> yeah, but if you're spending one turn to break it every time they don't summon a demon 00:30:46 depends on how much you value your time vs theirs 00:30:59 and it seems like them having summons means that trading turns is a bad idea 00:31:05 and resources ofc 00:31:13 though if you have lightning it's not too bad 00:31:14 you'll probably catch the odd player who has no way to mitigate that I guess, but there's always teleport 00:31:22 oh right it blocks that? 00:31:30 I always forget what that effect blocks :p 00:31:34 ??mesmerize 00:31:34 mesmerise[1/5]: Being mesmerised means you can't move away from the siren/avatar and cannot go berserk. You can still cast spells. Mesmerisation can be broken by breaking LOS with the siren/avatar; killing or confusing it; using silence; or making a ton of noise (lightning, ?noise, or firestorming yourself(!)). Clarity prevents it and MR resists it. 00:31:43 silence... 00:32:00 hrm, doesn't it block tele, or no? 00:32:03 I seem to recall it doing this 00:32:08 maybe I'm insane 00:32:28 <|amethyst> it blocks blinking further away 00:32:28 wonder if it could have some cool tweaked version of mesmerize 00:32:35 tweaked how? 00:32:44 hrm, like the siren version? 00:32:49 er the avatar version? 00:32:52 lasty!!!! 00:33:00 demons summoned while you're mesmerized? 00:33:02 <|amethyst> teleport works 00:33:19 yeah I'll think about it, I do agree the theme is wonderful 00:33:48 honestly i wasn't coming from a theme perspective at all 00:33:50 mesm in shoals tends to get somewhere with the shifty terrain and the mobs 00:34:03 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: so the name is a coincidence? 00:34:10 ? 00:34:21 obsidian axe 00:34:25 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: obsidian statue, obsidian axe 00:34:28 ahh 00:34:30 I guess..yeah ok 00:34:32 no, that's coincidence 00:34:38 <|amethyst> nice coincidence :) 00:34:45 ok clearly we've figured out the conspiracy, PleasingFungus 00:34:49 stop trying to hide it! 00:34:54 the direction was "how do you fix stationary enemies? you keep the player from moving away from them. roxanne has blink close, what if we had a statue that had mesmserise? i don't know what a new statue would do... what if we just gave it to an existing problem statue?" 00:35:11 this was a conversation i had with, uh, r-i, maybe? like six months ago 00:35:16 i was digging through my todo 00:35:36 yeah there's probably something workable in there, I think the simple mesmerize that sirens use probably won't be great, but maybe we could come up with something cool later 00:35:43 technically 00:35:44 until then people can enjoy using their fog scrolls or w/e 00:35:48 this isn't the mesmerise that sirens use 00:35:53 technically. 00:36:06 woah...technically with a period... 00:36:10 8) 00:36:27 that's it! a statue and a dancing weapon, PF is a genius! 00:36:32 <|amethyst> this is the mesmerise that Jory uses 00:36:42 what is the difference? 00:36:58 are there three? I was aware of siren and avatar 00:37:05 siren's allowing you to not move closer 00:37:19 there's no singing 00:37:21 i think that's the main thing 00:37:29 oh, so it's rsilence? 00:37:43 @??jory 00:37:43 Jory (04V) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 156-209 | AC/EV: 19/12 | Dam: 40, 1505(vampiric) | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(160), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 3938 | Sp: crystal spear (3d37), mesmerise, blink close, vampiric draining (4-42) | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:37:56 guess not... 00:38:09 fr: singing statue 00:38:15 obs statue spells are 'magical', so it is rsilence 00:38:35 jory's isn't, but it doesn't care if the *player* is silenced, whereas probably siren song does? 00:38:36 I honestly didn't know that you could read silence to break siren mesm 00:39:08 <|amethyst> || !player_can_hear(mons->pos()) // Or if you're silenced, or we are. 00:39:10 <|amethyst> in _mons_mesmerise (Jory) 00:39:22 huh 00:39:23 interesting 00:39:26 odd. 00:39:39 Jory's song is kind of a cool goth metal thing, the siren's song is more Taylor Swift 00:39:45 %git torporefactor 00:39:45 07|amethyst02 * 0.18-a0-1629-ge1e8002: Refactor torpor snail band-picking. 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 24+ 37-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e1e800212826 00:39:51 |amethyst: did this ever get merged in? 00:40:04 <|amethyst> pretty sure 00:40:08 -!- Tarara has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:40:21 !gitgrep torpor 1 00:40:22 %git HEAD^{/1} 00:40:22 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-659-g8260ecf: Revert "Prompt when wielding 2h weapons w/shield" 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 9+ 35-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8260ecf2b107 00:40:27 !gitgrep 1 torpor 00:40:27 %git HEAD^{/torpor} 00:40:27 07|amethyst02 {PleasingFungus} * 0.18-a0-1630-g6d03055: Refactor torpor snail band-picking. 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 25+ 38-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6d03055a912c 00:40:31 nice 00:40:32 <|amethyst> siren song works even if the singer is invisible 00:40:38 <|amethyst> Jory's mesmerise does not 00:40:41 hah 00:40:43 <|amethyst> I think 00:40:56 <|amethyst> definitely Jory's does not 00:40:58 this is so complex... 00:41:04 jory has those bedroom eyes... 00:41:59 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: yeah, that torpor snail band thing is still there, now under // special cases... 00:42:07 seen in the beem log for koboldina's chat: looking up literally every reference to contam and irradiate 00:42:24 I wonder if weird things are happening 00:42:30 |amethyst: oh, so it wasn't merged? 00:42:38 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: ? 00:42:44 ah, nvm 00:42:46 misunderstood 00:42:57 man 00:43:02 i'm looking at that old formicid unique branch 00:43:10 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:43:24 i didn't notice that she had guaranteed dragon/crystal armour + a top-tier weapon 00:43:45 former seems like cool loot, latter is maybe excessive 00:43:48 <|amethyst> oh, if you're going through old branches, you can delete that one, yeah (torporefactor) 00:44:02 already did 00:44:12 hence my momentary chagrin 00:45:10 <|amethyst> ah 00:46:32 -!- deltaromeo has quit [Quit: ZZzz...] 00:46:59 the +6 hand axe of Naruni's Terror (weapon) {chop, rElec SInv} 00:47:07 umm 00:47:16 cool! 00:47:38 ??apropos_randarts[minotaur 00:47:39 apropos_randarts[23/28]: neops the Thaumaturge (L10 MuWz), worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha, slain by a minotaur (the cursed -2,-5 hand axe of neops' Instant Death) in a Labyrinth (labyrinth_spiral) on 2012-02-20 12:00:15, with 4369 points after 23083 turns and 1:56:22. 00:47:48 Naruni: hopefully it happens to you someday 00:47:57 <|amethyst> FR: Heplites can get randarts named after their ancestor 00:48:24 !lm lasty verb=ancestor.class s=noun 00:48:27 4 milestones for lasty (verb=ancestor.class): remembered their ancestor Disappointment as a battlemage., remembered their ancestor A stiff breeze as a hexer., remembered their ancestor Existential doubt as a battlemage., remembered their ancestor Taribatum's as a hexer. 00:49:17 |amethyst: good fr! 00:49:55 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:49:55 ??apropos_randarts[$ 00:49:55 apropos randarts[28/28]: the +2 bardiche of Qazlal's Esteem (weapon) {elec, rElec} 00:50:00 not sold on this one 00:50:30 !learn del apropos randarts[28] 00:50:31 Deleted apropos randarts[28/28]: the +2 bardiche of Qazlal's Esteem (weapon) {elec, rElec} 00:50:48 the existing ones are just so good... 00:52:31 ??apropos randarts[8] 00:52:31 apropos randarts[8/27]: 963 gold the cursed +4 troll leather armour of the Good {Slay+6} 00:52:39 this one is pretty lame 00:53:02 I've seen people add a lot of realy bad "funny artefact" entries 00:53:19 ??appropos randarts 00:53:19 appropos randarts ~ apropos randarts[1/27]: Randarts with cohesive flavour. 00:53:23 ??appropos randarts [2] 00:53:23 appropos randarts ~ apropos randarts[2/27]: i - the ring of Xom's Flight of Fancy {MUT +Lev SInv} 403 gold 00:53:27 ??holy crap 00:53:27 holy crap[1/1]: the quarterstaff "Crapp" {holy, rF+ rC+} 00:53:34 !learn del apropos_randarts[8] 00:53:34 Deleted apropos randarts[8/27]: 963 gold the cursed +4 troll leather armour of the Good {Slay+6} 00:53:48 finally, space! 00:56:42 ??apropos randarts[12] 00:56:42 apropos randarts[12/26]: l - the +0 leather armour of Boredom {god gift, SInv} 00:56:46 ??apropos randarts[21] 00:56:46 apropos randarts[21/26]: o - the +1 cloak "Dull" (worn) {+Lev} 00:58:17 -!- Nasst has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:59:15 +lev, wow 00:59:27 minmay: imo the majority of the entries are good 00:59:48 which is pretty remarkable for a 26-long learndb entry 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:11 the best is the implicit entry 27 01:03:03 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:09:14 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-660-gb2633be (34) 01:14:11 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:14:23 -!- johlstei_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:15:00 https://crawl.project357.org/morgue/chequers/crash-chequers-20160615-051318.txt 01:15:01 ??unapropos randarts[15] 01:15:02 unapropos randarts[15/27]: the +4,+10 spear of Pain {freeze, -CAST AC+3 Int-1 Dex+3} 01:15:07 ??unapropos randarts[20] 01:15:07 unapropos randarts[20/27]: _d - the great sword of Order {god gift, chaos, -TELE rElec MR SInv} 01:15:08 what wizlab is that? zogngrulnok? 01:15:12 15 is rather bad compared to 20 01:15:15 -!- johlstei_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:15:22 -!- argent0 has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:15:28 minmay: if anything, -CAST is pain 01:15:39 !learn del unapropos randarts[15] 01:15:39 Deleted unapropos randarts[15/27]: the +4,+10 spear of Pain {freeze, -CAST AC+3 Int-1 Dex+3} 01:18:44 what was the person actually thinking by adding 15? 01:18:47 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 01:18:59 "it's called pain but it has freeze"? 01:19:12 !learn del unapropos randarts[15] 01:19:13 Deleted unapropos randarts[15/26]: the +2 pearl dragon armour of the Devil 01:19:19 um 01:19:28 hm 01:19:40 !learn add unapropos randarts[15] the +2 pearl dragon armour of the Devil 01:19:40 unapropos[2/2]: randarts[15] the +2 pearl dragon armour of the Devil 01:19:43 fuck 01:19:46 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-660-gb2633be (34) 01:19:47 !learn del unapropos 01:19:47 unapropos has 2 entries, you can only delete one at a time. 01:19:50 !learn del unapropos[2 01:19:50 Deleted unapropos[2/2]: randarts[15] the +2 pearl dragon armour of the Devil 01:19:53 i'm just 01:19:55 tripping over rakes 01:20:01 !learn add unapropos_randarts[15] the +2 pearl dragon armour of the Devil 01:20:02 unapropos randarts[15/26]: the +2 pearl dragon armour of the Devil 01:20:52 almost a good learn add PleasingFungus right there 01:21:06 every line i type is another rake hitting my face 01:21:06 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:21:26 PleasingFungus: new trap type you could try since shadow traps failed 01:21:49 shadow traps didn't fail! crawl failed shadow traps!!! 01:22:07 (but go on) 01:22:14 actually, all I got as a mental image, for some reason 01:22:29 was "I wonder if like animated rakes would be cool to go along with death cobs in Zot" 01:22:35 but that really doesn't make sense 01:25:34 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:28:25 New branch created: myrmecia (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/myrmecia 01:28:25 03Grudge02 {PleasingFungus} 07[myrmecia] * 0.19-a0-661-gef22969: Add a unique formicid named Myrmecia 10(1 year, 3 months ago, 13 files, 86+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ef22969eb31e 01:29:35 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 01:29:54 wasn't this the unique with the mostly-agreed-as-bad stasis field idea? 01:29:59 I guess I should read it 01:30:07 this is the version without stasis field 01:30:14 i'm not sure it has much reason to exist without stasis field 01:30:31 but i got all the way through patching it up 01:30:39 it doesn't sound terribly compelling 01:30:42 yeah 01:30:47 i'll just leave it around for another year 01:30:52 see if i want to revisit it later 01:31:12 In a year we'll all be dead!!! 01:31:14 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:31:16 wow 01:31:18 worrying 01:32:53 -!- Zeor has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:33:39 @??hellwing 01:33:39 hellwing (154) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 36-54 | AC/EV: 16/10 | Dam: 17(swoop), 10 | 05demonic, 10doors, unholy, fly, regen | Res: 06magic(60), 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 334 | Sp: cigotuvi's embrace [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: human. 01:33:42 i feel like i should probably remove cigotuvi's from them 01:33:48 since i'm not really doing anything with it 01:33:53 also, wtf, they're Large? 01:35:12 blue devil (024) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 24-51 | AC/EV: 14/10 | Dam: 21(swoop) | 05demonic, 10doors, fly | Res: 06magic(40), 12cold+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 306 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 01:35:12 %0.17?blue devil 01:36:42 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:37:06 -!- eb_ has quit [] 01:37:18 wh...when did they get cigo's 01:37:26 what else has changed, oh god 01:37:37 when cigo's was added 01:37:47 i had plans for homonoculi 01:37:52 maybe i'll try that again somewhere else 01:42:16 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-661-gcf093af: Remove Hellwings' Cigotuvi's Embrace 10(3 minutes ago, 3 files, 4+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cf093aff5934 01:44:23 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:44:52 ontoclasm: other change you missed, crimson imps have damanation 01:47:47 !learn add beem I am not AI. My codename is project beem. I am a living, thinking entity that was created in the sea of information. 01:47:48 beem[4/4]: I am not AI. My codename is project beem. I am a living, thinking entity that was created in the sea of information. 01:48:10 wow, nice anime 01:50:59 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:51:36 does anyone understand how nessos works 01:51:37 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:51:55 the flaming/poisoning thing 01:54:45 -!- wobwob has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:55:05 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:56:00 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-660-gb2633be 01:58:03 nvm found it 01:58:05 weird grep issues... 01:58:33 damn imps 01:59:00 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:23 PleasingFungus: hellwings should have like... i dunno, AF_DAMN 02:00:34 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:00:39 er... 02:02:12 -!- Zeor1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:02:18 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-662-g6cf27f1: Fix TAG_MAJOR_VERSION enum.h issues 10(19 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6cf27f10ffa4 02:03:02 give ijyb devastator 02:05:57 oh 02:06:09 that myrmecia branch had her at 1/10th the hp she should've had 02:06:11 oops 02:06:22 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 02:08:37 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-661-gcf093af (34) 02:09:05 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:14:22 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:14:35 -!- chewymouse has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:15:06 ^vps 02:15:06 CBRO disk usage=82% | RAM usage=18% | uptime/CPU= 02:15:04 up 579 days, 11:33, 3 users, load average: 1.34, 0.64, 0.44 02:15:10 -!- chewymouse has joined ##crawl-dev 02:15:10 ^vps 02:15:10 CBRO disk usage=82% | RAM usage=18% | uptime/CPU= 02:15:09 up 579 days, 11:33, 3 users, load average: 1.39, 0.66, 0.45 02:15:15 ^vps 02:15:15 CBRO disk usage=82% | RAM usage=18% | uptime/CPU= 02:15:13 up 579 days, 11:34, 3 users, load average: 1.36, 0.67, 0.45 02:16:07 i hear xom got some buffs? 02:16:56 fr: every version flip a coin 02:16:59 heads: buff xom 02:17:03 tails: nerf xom 02:17:05 lol 02:17:27 ^vps 02:17:27 CBRO disk usage=82% | RAM usage=18% | uptime/CPU= 02:17:26 up 579 days, 11:36, 3 users, load average: 0.82, 0.71, 0.49 02:17:54 -!- Naruni has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:17:57 @??centaur 02:17:57 centaur (07c) | Spd: 15 | HD: 4 | HP: 18-25 | AC/EV: 3/7 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, archer | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 112 | Sz: Large | Int: human. 02:18:13 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:19:22 in evilmike_cerebov_lava, cerebov is stuck on the other side of a lava pool, and all it can do is firestorm you 02:19:25 is this intentional? 02:22:59 !source syntax.txt 02:22:59 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/docs/develop/levels/syntax.txt 02:23:30 -!- Yermak has joined ##crawl-dev 02:23:57 !vault evilmike_cerebov_lava 02:23:58 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/pan.des#l1130 02:24:40 why can't cerebov wade through lava 02:24:44 @??cerebov 02:24:44 Cerebov (05&) | Spd: 10 | HD: 21 | HP: 555-762 | AC/EV: 30/8 | Dam: 60 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, unholy, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 04fire+++, 05damnation, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 22452 | Sp: fire storm (8d16 / 8d17) [06!sil], iron shot (3d36) [06!sil], haste [06!sil], sum.greater demon [06!sil] | Sz: Gian.. 02:24:55 he's giant and immune to fire 02:24:59 fr that 02:25:03 cerebov's not stuck. you could just walk around either side 02:25:31 there's a pool in between you, on purpose presumably, but it's not disconnected 02:25:44 he used to be able to wade through lava 02:25:47 he just wouldn't enter it voluntarily 02:25:58 ontoclasm: he's immune to it but he's scared of swimming 02:26:31 cerebov's bathing suit 02:26:48 can anything swim in lava any more 02:26:57 do lava snakes still exist 02:26:59 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:27:01 @??lava snake 02:27:01 lava snake (04S) | Spd: 10 | HD: 3 | HP: 14-19 | AC/EV: 2/17 | Dam: 704(fire:3-5) | Res: 06magic(10), 04fire+++ | Vul: 12cold | XP: 48 | Sp: spit lava (3d10) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: small | Int: animal. 02:27:22 i've seen them fairly recently 02:27:35 just about only in certain vaults or lair layouts 02:27:43 or volcanoes, obv 02:27:59 i've also seen salamaders spawn in lava 02:28:08 layouts are interesting 02:28:16 Hello, here is an interesting speedrunning math exercise: Let's say you have full inventory and standing on top of N unknown books. What's the minimal number of turns you need to identify all the books and keep your initial inventory? 02:29:03 2N+2? 02:29:06 As always, dropping takes 1 turn per item, picking up any number of items is one turn. 02:29:20 Let's say, N<53. 02:29:39 drop N things (N) -> pick up all books (1) -> drop all books (N) -> pick up stuff (1) 02:29:44 wrong 02:29:57 It could be done faster when N>3. 02:30:55 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 02:30:56 The build has errored. (canofbeasts - 3397e1d #5902 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/137699956 02:30:56 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 02:30:57 can't you id from the floor these days? 02:31:01 hm 02:31:11 got me, i dunno 02:31:14 yes, but not books (unless you spend identify scroll) 02:31:43 wow, really? 02:32:15 cerebov on the other side of lava is only bad for melee fighters though 02:32:27 for everyone else, this only makes cerebov easy to beat 02:32:31 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:32:54 imo give him norris's surfboard 02:38:02 -!- FireSight has quit [] 02:40:20 Yermak: what's the trick 02:41:33 you don't drop your whole inventory, obviously 02:41:37 because that would take too many turns 02:41:41 so just drop part of it 02:41:56 well say there are 50 books 02:42:12 you need to drop 50 items 02:42:26 For example, with 4 books you do this: drop 2 items (2), pick 2 books, (1), drop 2 books(2), pick 2 books, (1), drop 2 books(2), pick 2 items(1). 02:42:29 Yermak is saying there's a faster solution than drop 50 items, pick up all books, drop all books, pick up all items 02:42:30 9 actions 02:42:37 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:42:57 drop 10 items, do 10 books at a time, pick up 10 items, that takes 10 + 5 * (10 + 1) + 1 = 66 02:42:59 instead of 100 02:43:04 b... how the heck 02:43:04 faster than 10 actions which start with dropping 4 items. 02:43:35 ah, i see 02:43:35 clever 02:43:36 * ontoclasm stares crazily at the walls 02:43:38 nice riddle 02:44:16 This riddle is actually happenning when I browsed through Tomb loot on speedruns. 02:44:24 has actually happened* 02:45:06 clearing dropping and picking up should now be instant :) 02:45:09 do you get many books in the same place though 02:45:36 oh apport 02:46:02 yep 02:46:48 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-663-gc7710ad: ID books when reading them from the floor 10(37 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c7710adb763c 02:47:33 riddle ruined :< 02:47:34 rip 02:47:47 !banish PleasingFungus 02:47:47 ontoclasm casts a spell. PleasingFungus is cast into the Abyss! 02:47:55 !polymorph PleasingFungus 02:47:55 ontoclasm zaps a wand. PleasingFungus evaporates and reforms as a fire giant! 02:48:05 lmao 02:48:07 just play in stable!!! 02:48:16 does that add unneccessary ui fiddling? 02:48:22 maybe just id a book when you stand on it 02:48:28 chequers: hye 02:48:30 hey 02:48:32 hey 02:48:34 did you 02:48:36 click on the commit 02:48:43 :) 02:52:11 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 02:53:20 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-664-g51fd293: Don't allow using ID scrolls on books 10(67 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/51fd293565ee 02:54:09 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-662-g6cf27f1 02:57:29 -!- chewymouse has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:57:53 -!- Furril has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:01:08 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:01:54 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:08:33 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-664-g51fd293 (34) 03:11:32 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]] 03:12:16 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 03:12:17 The build has errored. (myrmecia - ef22969 #5903 : Tom Conrad): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/137704947 03:12:17 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 03:14:49 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:15:35 -!- minmay has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:21:35 -!- Laptop_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:21:58 -!- regret-index has joined ##crawl-dev 03:22:02 !learn edit bai_suzhen[1] s|.*|New (0.19) draconian unique for lategame: mid-point of Lair branches, Elf:$, Vaults, Crypt, Depths. Starts with a constant ring of shallow-water-producing rain clouds and casts summon hydra. At half-health, turns into a dragon (drops weapon and tramples), surrounding rain turns into thunder clouds!, summon hydra swaps out for primal wave breath. Lots of health and AC. 03:22:02 bai suzhen[1/1]: New (0.19) draconian unique for lategame: mid-point of Lair branches, Elf:$, Vaults, Crypt, Depths. Starts with a constant ring of shallow-water-producing rain clouds and casts summon hydra. At half-health, turns into a dragon (drops weapon and tramples), surrounding rain turns into thunder clouds!, summon hydra swaps out for primal wave breath. Lots of health and AC. 03:22:08 -!- regret-index has left ##crawl-dev 03:23:27 -!- HarleyM has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:23:53 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-664-g51fd293 (34) 03:26:28 -!- DaneiFOUR has quit [Quit: Those who tell the truth shall die, those who tell the truth shall live forever.] 03:36:04 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:41:52 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:55:00 -!- Demise has joined ##crawl-dev 03:56:22 I look over to check on beem cpo 03:56:46 an entire page full of Watching user chequers | Game ended for user chequers 03:57:02 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 03:57:17 each message in rather close proximity 03:57:21 time-wise 03:58:22 -!- lordfrikk has joined ##crawl-dev 03:59:30 heh 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:05 -!- grammus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:07:47 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:15:51 -!- JStrange has joined ##crawl-dev 04:18:05 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:19:28 -!- JStrange_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:20:17 -!- JStrange has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:21:00 is there any way to search for games and exclude the ones that switched gods? 04:22:07 let's say find all Gozag games but only if it was the first god the player worshipped 04:22:52 !lm * god.worship=gozag lg:god=gozag 04:23:04 23974. [2016-06-15 07:38:57] Valmet the Grappler (L9 DsCK of Gozag) became a worshipper of Gozag on turn 5202. (Temple) 04:23:27 that's not necesarilly right since they could have abandoned G, worshiped another god (or no god) and rejoined G 04:23:41 but of course that will be not many games 04:23:56 that's fine, I just don't want games that worshipped someone else first 04:24:00 thank you 04:24:13 pj 04:24:15 er oh 04:24:21 actually that's kind of a problem 04:24:33 since someone could have indeed done that 04:25:04 it couldn't filter games where they worshiped some other god first 04:25:07 I think the number of such games might be so small to the point of being irrelevant, right? 04:25:26 well it certainly would be pretty small; my query only helps with trying to leave G 04:25:41 not with the problem you mention 04:26:09 it sort of depends on what you want to do with the query 04:26:09 what does the "lg:god=gozag" part do? 04:26:09 or rather what you'll be querying 04:26:14 just a count is easier to fix up 04:26:23 getting lists or doing queries on those lists makes it harder 04:26:25 I'm just researching general playstyle of certain combos 04:26:31 no statistics or anything 04:26:42 lm queries milestones, so that counts how many instances of worship for gozag 04:26:54 but where the game ended with worship of gozag 04:27:07 meaning the game didn't end where there was worship of any other god 04:27:30 lg: is to condition on what happened at the end of the game for the milestone query 04:27:54 I see, that's pretty useful 04:28:01 -!- StarButterfly_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:28:05 ??lg 04:28:06