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[2014-11-15 02:09:03] johnstein the Fighter (L10 DrCK of Xom) left the Lair of Beasts on turn 12856. (Lair:1) 02:02:40 devs made fun illegal 02:02:42 it's been a while 02:02:58 I suppose that just means it's time for me to play xom again 02:05:22 anyway, i would like xomites to have more access to chaos branded weapons 02:05:39 though not quite as much as Lugonu/TSO who get a guaranteed brand 02:05:50 so I'm not sure if a xom active ability is the right approach 02:08:39 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-645-gfd18b6f (34) 02:10:04 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:10:11 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:10:42 -!- GauHelldragon2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:13:22 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:15:23 could just make xom give the player more chaos weapons 02:16:44 !source items 02:16:44 1/10. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/makeitem.cc#l1838 02:17:40 i guess you could make the chaos upgrade 50% of gifts, make certain gifts worse, and make xom gift more 02:17:56 like if xom gifts mostly mundane crap, it would be ok if it was one of the more spammed actions 02:18:13 being showered with bad items is already a god niche though :P 02:18:39 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:20:22 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:24:12 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 02:24:13 The build passed. (master - fd18b6f #5887 : regret-index): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/137423966 02:24:14 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 02:26:01 PleasingFungus: this is why you don't make things like this 02:26:03 PleasingFungus: koboldina: question | koboldina: could I just cast invis | koboldina: on a bad guy | koboldina: then yara them | koboldina: for fun | koboldina: the answer is yes 02:26:43 is there help lookup for forms? 02:27:09 also that yara's interaction is great. it should do more damage than eg two fireballs in a row to reward combos 02:27:10 there's the lookup for the spells 02:27:26 which describes what you can do in the forms 02:27:39 although maybe they don't go much into detail 02:28:44 gammafunk: you can use haste for the same effect 02:28:51 no 02:28:55 it reminds me of ignite poison + pcloud 02:28:56 I'm not relaying more ideas to koboldina 02:28:58 haha 02:29:03 GUESS WHAT I SAW IT 02:29:04 I'M WATCHING 02:29:04 OWNED 02:29:05 'ghetto firestorm', i think the term is? 02:29:06 fuck 02:29:07 lmao 02:29:10 anyway this is 'ghotto fireball' 02:29:19 *ghetto 02:29:21 grotto fireball 02:29:21 *goblin grotto 02:29:26 chequers: o/ 02:29:32 it's a ghetto fireball that also malmutates my opponents 02:29:33 I am a fan 02:29:52 PleasingFungus: o/ 02:30:00 :) 02:30:02 this is like when you have a life threatening injury, and you rush into the hospital screaming for help 02:30:13 you look up, everyone has clown masks and like knifes 02:30:58 yeah, that happens to me a lot 02:32:48 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]] 02:33:13 !tell pleasingfungus DEATH CHANNEL 02:33:14 chequers: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 02:33:17 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 02:33:29 hi 02:34:04 glad to see nothing serious has popped up recently with using items on floor 02:39:51 -!- Bcadren_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:41:23 I have a 0.17 Xomite going, the most distinct feature being the teleport roulette I think. 02:41:23 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:41:58 that's not very new iirc 02:42:26 in fact it's very old :) 02:42:50 Nah, I didn't mean it's new.. it's just what I most remember from this game. 02:43:49 Like it was the biggest prank Xom can pull (I commented since there was the mention of the weapon swap thing) 02:44:36 Okay, now he grew a pair of antennae on my head and my helmet of see invisible fell off, that's pretty funny. 02:45:32 Reminds me of a time when an orb of fire mutated me, I grew horns and my rF++ artefact helmet fell off. 02:47:28 I dunno, I kinda miss a couple of ammo brands, dispersal (esp. when enemies use it) and penetration mainly. 02:49:06 Hehe, I also like(d) Xom vitrification, though I can understand the reasons of removal. It's just visually so magnificent. 02:49:13 -!- mong has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:50:35 The death ooze flickers and vanishes for a moment. The death ooze's magical effects unravel! The enchantments explode! The unravelling engulfs the death ooze. 02:50:39 just for you gammafunk <3 02:52:08 I had vitrification happen just now in Vaults where it definitely helped the monsters path to me. Vault sentinel there too, no less. 02:52:25 It'd be fun to have the effect, but only when it would matter :Ö 02:54:17 anyone got a minute to talk subvaults? 02:54:56 !vault layout_pan_divisions_a 02:54:57 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/builder/layout_pan_divisions.des#l40 02:55:20 the 4 main subvaults are all roughly the same shape, but definitely different 02:55:49 however, the quadrant vaults below are all identical to the "A" subvault 02:56:25 based on what I think I read in the vaulting syntax guide, it sounds like you don't need the subvaults to exactly fit 02:57:08 I'm just trying to visualize better what's going on. i.e. trying to better understand the design decisions on the shapes 02:57:26 I'm used to the V:$ subvaults where they are always the exact same size 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:05:10 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:07:05 -!- us17 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:11:28 -!- Poncheis has quit [Client Quit] 03:15:18 -!- Naruni has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:16:07 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:17:49 i claim the first bai suzhen kill 03:18:07 pleasingfungus are you still around 03:18:18 !lm . uniq=bai_suzhen 03:18:19 oh whoops he quit nvm 03:18:19 1. [2016-06-14 07:17:02] chequers the Brawler (L17 TrMo of Qazlal) killed Bai Suzhen on turn 25045. (Snake:4) 03:19:09 -!- Nasst has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:19:46 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:22:10 !killratio bai_suzhen 03:22:13 bai_suzhen wins 0.0% of battles. 03:22:15 :C 03:23:22 also, if you make a layout weight really high, but you don't change the weight of a branch end vault, does it make sense that you won't see the layout often? i.e. what is the sequence of events for selecting a layout + primary vault? 03:23:25 for a branch end? 03:23:25 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-645-gfd18b6f (34) 03:24:33 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:28:16 primary vaults are chosen first, i'm pretty sure 03:29:37 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:31:37 ontoclasm, that matches what I'm seeing then 03:32:43 sounds correct 03:32:48 for some reason I thought the layout was first 03:32:56 if you make a subvault with weight 99999 it will be chosen whenever a matching subvault is needed 03:33:08 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:33:12 so, pick a primary vault, pick a layout from the available layouts for that vault 03:34:25 -!- DaneiTWO has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:34:38 if a layout type isn't defined in the primary vault tags, then pick a layout from ALL layouts that are OK for that floor/depth. otherwise, only look in the allowed layouts in the tags 03:35:21 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 03:38:18 -!- jeefus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:39:22 !vault roderic_lattice_octagonal_star 03:39:22 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/mini_features.des#l1486 03:40:42 the most important thing when making vaults is to remember this slogan 03:40:54 players are a disease and '8's are the cure 03:42:55 !lg * ((map~~johnstein||kmap~~johnstein)) place=vaults:5 03:42:56 118. myche the Impregnable (L23 GrFi of Okawaru), blasted by a fire giant (bolt of fire) on Vaults:5 (vaults_vault) on 2016-06-10 11:08:53, with 390597 points after 36426 turns and 1:22:40. 03:43:10 !lg * ((map~~minmay||kmap~~minmay)) place=vaults:5 03:43:11 3686. kjohn407 the Tortoise (L21 MiFi of The Shining One), blasted by a lich (bolt of acid) on Vaults:5 (vaults_vault; vaults_end_minmay_plus_grid_2) on 2016-06-14 05:31:36, with 326454 points after 43227 turns and 4:58:09. 03:43:13 !lg * ((map~~johnstein||kmap~~johnstein)) place=vaults:5 s=map 03:43:13 118 games for * (((map~~johnstein || kmap~~johnstein)) place=vaults:5): 56x vaults_vault, 33x vaults_vault; johnstein_vaults_end_maze, 12x vaults_vault; johnstein_vaults_end_asymmetric, 3x vaults_vault; vaults_end_minmay_circular_pillars, 2x vaults_vault; vaults_end_grunt_simple_division, vaults_vault; vaults_end_minmay_grid2, vaults_vault; vaults_end_dpeg_shops2, vaults_vault; vaults_end_minmay_c... 03:43:20 !lg * ((map~~johnstein||kmap~~johnstein)) place=vaults:5 s=kmap 03:43:21 118 games for * (((map~~johnstein || kmap~~johnstein)) place=vaults:5): 57x vaults_vault; johnstein_vaults_end_asymmetric, 28x vaults_vault; johnstein_vaults_end_maze, 8x, 2x vaults_vault; vaults_grunt_end_bulge, 2x vaults_vault; vaults_end_dpeg_shops2, 2x vaults_vault; vaults_end_minmay_cup_spider, vaults_vault; vaults_end_minmay_subdivision; vaults_end_norune, vaults_vault, vaults_vault; vaults_... 03:43:42 !lg * ((map~~johnstein||kmap~~johnstein)) 03:43:53 !lg * kmap~~minmay 03:43:54 627. MiryuNeko the Severer (L16 MiFi of Okawaru), mangled by a seven-headed hydra (kmap: swamp_basic_johnstein) on Swamp:4 on 2016-06-14 04:27:52, with 123730 points after 24092 turns and 0:44:34. 03:43:55 49125. crab1148 the Skirmisher (L7 GhFi), slain by a gnoll (a +0 halberd of venom) on D:3 (minmay_goblin_kobold_castle) on 2016-06-14 07:12:11, with 513 points after 2146 turns and 0:05:54. 03:44:18 !calc (49125 - 627) / 627 03:44:19 77 03:44:28 !lg * ckiller=uniq s=ckiller 03:44:31 I don't believe you 03:44:35 637579 games for * (ckiller=uniq): 142338x Sigmund, 64582x Grinder, 47635x Crazy Yiuf, 47028x Terence, 41648x Ijyb, 24743x Jessica, 24631x Prince Ribbit, 24080x Pikel, 22887x Menkaure, 21890x Natasha, 20823x Duvessa, 15843x Blork, 13373x Edmund, 12031x Dowan, 10782x Joseph, 8216x Robin, 7938x Erolcha, 7931x Gastronok, 6187x Rupert, 5443x Snorg, 5300x Purgy, 4486x Nessos, 4337x Erica, 3546x Maud, 3... 03:44:37 !calc (49125 - 627) 03:44:37 48498 03:44:53 !calc (49125 - 627) \ 49125 03:44:53 Broken query near '\ 49125$ fmt:"${x[0]}"' 03:44:53 the 3 most deadly uniques in the game: sigmund, grinder, minmay 03:44:58 !calc (49125 - 627) ./ 627 03:44:59 Broken query near '/ 627$ fmt:"${x[0]}"' 03:45:23 !calc (49125 / (49125 - 627)) 03:45:24 1 03:45:36 !calc ((49125 - 627)/49125) 03:45:37 0 03:45:56 !calc (100*(49125 - 627)/49125) 03:45:57 98 03:46:05 2%! 03:46:23 !lg . ((map~~minmay||kmap~~minmay)) 03:46:24 8. johnstein the Grand Master (L27 MfTm of Okawaru), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2015-03-22 06:25:08, with 2272337 points after 78295 turns and 11:02:41. 03:46:33 also 49125 is a massive underreporting because it didn't exist in old versions 03:46:42 !lg . ((map~~minmay||kmap~~minmay)) !won 03:46:43 6. johnstein the Nimble (L11 OpBe of Trog), impaled on a porcupine's spines (kmap: minmay_lair_entry_grove) on D:8 on 2014-02-14 06:28:43, with 7168 points after 11159 turns and 1:03:49. 03:46:59 !lg . ((map~~minmay||kmap~~minmay)) !won s=kmap 03:46:59 6 games for johnstein (((map~~minmay || kmap~~minmay)) !won): 4x, minmay_lair_entry_grove, uniq_jory 03:47:03 !lg * ((map~~minmay||kmap~~minmay)) map!~~entry map!~~arrival map!~~misc_feat 03:47:07 !lg . ((map~~minmay||kmap~~minmay)) !won s=map 03:47:11 82205. Action013 the Shield-Bearer (L2 DDFi), quit the game on D:1 (minmay_box_of_dots) on 2016-06-14 07:18:22, with 9 points after 470 turns and 0:00:29. 03:47:12 6 games for johnstein (((map~~minmay || kmap~~minmay)) !won): minmay_misc_feat_iff, minmay_misc_feat_secret_circle, minmay_temple_entry_glass, minmay_crypt_entry_necro_gods, minmay_entry_hallway, 03:47:22 never the same one twice though! 03:47:23 82205 is much closer to the correct number 03:48:07 I spend too much time overthinking mine 03:48:18 and usually pick too complicated ones 03:48:48 !lg * place=spider ((map~~johnstein||kmap~~johnstein)) 03:48:49 107. qw the Wrestler (L17 TrBe of Trog), slain by a wolf spider (kmap: johnstein_spider_rune_arachne_lair) on Spider:4 on 2016-06-12 21:03:01, with 160484 points after 31579 turns and 0:35:11. 03:49:07 !lg * ((map~~johnstein||kmap~~johnstein)) place=snake 03:49:08 172. etivat the Grand Gadgeteer (L17 DsWn of Pakellas), slain by a naga (a +0 trident) (kmap: johnstein_snake_rune_scales) on Snake:4 on 2016-06-13 22:54:35, with 185292 points after 47274 turns and 3:09:42. 03:49:10 !lg * ((map~~johnstein||kmap~~johnstein)) place=swamp 03:49:11 133. MiryuNeko the Severer (L16 MiFi of Okawaru), mangled by a seven-headed hydra (kmap: swamp_basic_johnstein) on Swamp:4 on 2016-06-14 04:27:52, with 123730 points after 24092 turns and 0:44:34. 03:50:02 !lm . uniq=bai_suzhen 03:50:02 1. [2016-06-14 07:17:02] chequers the Brawler (L17 TrMo of Qazlal) killed Bai Suzhen on turn 25045. (Snake:4) 03:52:05 !lm * uniq=bai_suzhen 03:52:06 1. [2016-06-14 07:17:02] chequers the Brawler (L17 TrMo of Qazlal) killed Bai Suzhen on turn 25045. (Snake:4) 03:53:22 @??bai suzhen 03:53:23 unknown monster: "bai suzhen" 03:54:22 what am I missing with this vault? https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/builder/layout_pan_divisions.des#L170 03:54:25 says: 03:54:34 # This one gets a lower weight and luniq because it is bigger 03:54:35 # than most. If four of these were placed, the map would be too 03:54:35 # big. 03:54:46 but it's the same size as the other quadrant subvault vaults 03:56:43 probably just an outdated comment 03:56:53 ah ok 03:57:08 been scratching my head about it for like 10 minutes 03:57:52 or someone not understanding what the word "big" means 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:20:30 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:22:44 -!- Jorgrell has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:23:53 -!- Jorgrell has joined ##crawl-dev 04:26:07 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [*.net *.split] 04:26:07 -!- mopl has quit [*.net *.split] 04:26:07 -!- xodahs has quit [*.net *.split] 04:26:07 -!- destrovel has quit [*.net *.split] 04:26:07 -!- mibe has quit [*.net *.split] 04:26:07 -!- Lightli has quit [*.net *.split] 04:26:07 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [*.net *.split] 04:26:07 -!- koboldina has quit [*.net *.split] 04:26:25 -!- Jafet has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 04:35:08 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:39:47 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:40:36 -!- lordfrikk has joined ##crawl-dev 04:54:35 03regret-index02 07* 0.19-a0-646-g2f6b491: Lower Bai Suzhen's experience output a bit 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2f6b49167ceb 04:58:41 -!- Kalma has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:08:29 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-646-g2f6b491 (34) 05:11:56 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 05:13:13 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:28:36 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:30:22 -!- JStrange has joined ##crawl-dev 05:30:45 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:31:27 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:33:22 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:44:05 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:46:54 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 05:52:12 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:53:41 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 05:57:21 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:07:40 -!- Jafet has joined ##crawl-dev 06:07:51 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 06:10:56 -!- edsrzf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:13:32 Is there "invisible other" for enemies? :) 06:21:22 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:33:24 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:34:34 -!- Demise has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:37:46 Right, didn't realize crossbows can get penetration brand. 06:38:17 But I thought it was one of the ammo brands that worked well with ammo, very situational. 06:38:59 -!- JStrange_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:42:00 -!- JStrange has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:46:04 !lg * ikiller=asterion newasterion -tv :<2 06:46:04 Broken query near '<2' 06:46:07 !lg * ikiller=asterion newasterion -tv:<2 06:46:08 6. qw, XL16 TeBe, T:31900 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 06:47:01 !lg * ikiller=asterion newasterion -log 06:47:02 6. qw, XL16 TeBe, T:31900: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/qw/morgue-qw-20160614-040806.txt 06:57:53 Wow, met my first death knight in Vaults, that was a cool encounter thanks to Agony. 07:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:00:03 -!- Rast-- has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:00:17 -!- Rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 07:02:21 -!- Telnaior has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:03:00 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 07:08:36 -!- Rast-- has joined ##crawl-dev 07:08:36 -!- Rast- has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:09:32 -!- miserium has quit [Client Quit] 07:10:27 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:12:32 -!- olscumpy has joined ##crawl-dev 07:12:35 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:14:15 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 07:18:54 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 07:22:25 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:24:02 Ancestor can't decapicate hydra heads with flaming axe 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10500 by A boy and his god 07:27:42 -!- doy has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 07:29:02 -!- doy has joined ##crawl-dev 07:30:58 -!- docnvk has quit [Excess Flood] 07:36:08 -!- Rast-- has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:36:17 -!- Rast-- has joined ##crawl-dev 08:00:06 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:15:15 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:15:15 -!- andre_1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:15:55 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:16:54 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:20:16 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:40:52 -!- waat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:40:57 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 08:45:00 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:45:27 -!- Rast has joined ##crawl-dev 08:45:30 -!- Rast-- has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:49:20 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:59:57 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:59:59 -!- JStrange_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:00:09 -!- JStrange_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:02:05 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:06:10 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 09:08:33 -!- JStrange has joined ##crawl-dev 09:08:33 -!- Rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:08:39 -!- Rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 09:09:41 03MarvinPA02 {GitHub} 07* 0.19-a0-647-g805a5e4: Adjust Bai Suzhen speech handling 10(6 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/805a5e4983bf 09:10:12 wow, {GitHub} 09:12:16 -!- JStrange_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:16:21 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:16:57 did you edit that in the web interface 09:17:47 -!- Rast- has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:17:57 -!- Rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 09:20:23 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:20:55 yeah 09:21:13 03MarvinPA02 {GitHub} 07* 0.19-a0-648-g4b37c69: Adjust another Bai message 10(7 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4b37c69c1704 09:21:21 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:23:23 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:24:15 -!- removeelyvilon has joined ##crawl-dev 09:25:28 !Tell MarvinPA There is an old "eastern dragon" tile in unused. Perhaps you could use that as a placeholder for Bai. 09:25:28 removeelyvilon: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 09:25:43 iirc 09:30:59 <|amethyst> probably want to recolour it at least :) 09:32:56 <|amethyst> mythological Bai Suzhen is white, but ours has "foreign and watery scales" (and has a lightblue glyph -> electricity in dragon form) 09:35:02 fluff question: why is shadow creatures not considered evil (it says something about abyssal matter) 09:37:10 abyss is chaotic, not evil? 09:37:15 <|amethyst> @??spatial vortex 09:37:15 spatial vortex (00v) | Spd: 15 | HD: 6 | HP: 43-62 | AC/EV: 0/5 | Dam: 3012(distort) | 11non-living, fly, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | XP: 165 | Sz: Large | Int: brainless. 09:37:21 <|amethyst> not inherently evil 09:37:44 <|amethyst> the real answer, of course, is "because there are enough evil/unholy summoning spells already" 09:38:05 <|amethyst> @??spatial maelstrom 09:38:05 spatial maelstrom (08v) | Spd: 16 | HD: 10 | HP: 60-88 | AC/EV: 0/5 | Dam: 2012(distort), 2012(distort) | 11non-living, fly, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire++, 02cold++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | XP: 757 | Sz: Big | Int: brainless. 09:38:20 <|amethyst> I guess that one's closer to being abyssal matter 09:38:38 <|amethyst> or neither is matter and they're just holes in space, who knows 09:39:23 k thy 09:40:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:40:39 most/all abyssal monsters aren't evil 09:40:49 @??thrashing horror 09:40:49 thrashing horror (08X) | Spd: 25 | HD: 9 | HP: 43-58 | AC/EV: 5/10 | Dam: 1707(trample), 907(trample) | 11non-living, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(60), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 841 | Sp: might [11!AM, 06!sil, 04emergency] | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 09:40:56 @??worldbinder 09:40:56 worldbinder (10x) | Spd: 14 | HD: 8 | HP: 34-45 | AC/EV: 12/4 | Dam: 8, 8 | 11non-living, 10doors, see invisible, fly, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(60), 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 511 | Sp: forceful invitation [06!sil] | Sz: small | Int: animal. 09:41:01 etc 09:43:38 but Lugonu is, amirite? 09:46:32 well let's see if I can find that dragon lady 09:46:36 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:55:41 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:56:04 -!- Laraso has quit [Quit: Laraso falls through a shaft! The shaft crumbles and collapses.] 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:04:10 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:06:08 -!- maxonian has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:08:30 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-648-g4b37c69 (34) 10:18:03 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:20:24 -!- Rast- has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:23:07 -!- Dix has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:26:16 -!- lukano has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:30:17 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:34:05 -!- olscumpy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:34:26 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:36:08 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:51 -!- JStrange_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:43:53 -!- JStrange has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:44:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:45:56 -!- JStrange_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:54:44 -!- Dix has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:24:17 -!- Jafet has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 11:25:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:25:51 -!- Dix has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:26:00 -!- lordfrikk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:29:22 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:30:16 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:30:32 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:34:10 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:48:44 -!- rj54x has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:49:48 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:53:47 -!- removeelyvilon has joined ##crawl-dev 11:55:04 Guys, guys. You need to settle down a little. One can't help but notice that there are many "this will do for now I guess, but I hope somebody else looks into it." and "this should probably be reverted (again)" and so forth 11:55:07 in commits 11:55:23 don't rush it, man. find your mojo 11:55:39 find a way to communicate better amongst yourselves 11:56:53 -!- G-Flex has quit [Quit: Time for us to bug out.] 11:57:15 and you need to appear strong to the outside! Use the concordance system of my Heimat. To the outside world, all 7 (Bundesräte) are a closed front. same opinion. show strenght and security 11:57:34 even when on the inside, they may have very differing opinions 11:58:42 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:03:19 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:28 Arkorax (L24 DsGl) (Abyss:3) 12:11:17 Wrong farewell message when switching good gods 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10501 by removeelyvilon 12:13:01 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:03 -!- DaneiTHREE is now known as DaneiFOUR 12:17:32 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:17:46 !crashlog Arkorax 12:17:47 1. Arkorax, XL24 DsGl, T:46321 (milestone): http://underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue/Arkorax/crash-Arkorax-20160614-160527.txt 12:18:23 hm, i don't like that crash 12:18:34 !vault hangedman_abyss_town 12:18:35 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/abyss.des#l938 12:18:53 ahhh 12:19:07 misc acq with sac evo & sac love 12:20:18 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: Reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold, BYE] 12:21:22 hm, and that can corrupt the save, too. nice 12:23:01 hm 12:23:16 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 12:24:03 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:26:43 Vaults placing 'acquire misc' cause crashes if the player took ru's Sacrifice Evo 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10502 by PleasingFungus 12:27:55 -!- mopl is now known as mopl_away 12:30:40 -!- nezrel has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:30:45 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 12:32:30 -!- mopl_away has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:37:22 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:44:26 PleasingFungus Hi, about my ticket, according to https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1079, it should talk about what the new god does. I'm unaware to any changes to that 12:44:49 heh 12:45:17 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:45:38 not like the world has more pressing problems 12:45:53 %git d7818bea 12:45:53 07Bodrick02 {|amethyst} * 0.17-a0-1702-gd7818be: Remove odd message if rejoining the same good god (#9915) 10(10 months ago, 1 file, 19+ 16-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d7818beaa4a4 12:45:58 looks like this is the one that changed it 12:46:16 hm 12:46:18 no, maybe not 12:46:25 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 12:47:58 devtectiv PF is on the job 12:48:06 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:50:58 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-649-gca8dce1: Tweak good god swap messages (removely) 10(33 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ca8dce14a9e8 12:52:31 Thanks man 12:59:43 -!- DevlanMud|Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:01:44 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:03:17 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:03:36 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:08:30 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-649-gca8dce1 (34) 13:08:32 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:15:45 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:17:10 -!- Furril has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:18:30 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:18:34 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:23:01 -!- Furril has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:25:54 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:28:33 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-649-gca8dce1 (34) 13:29:20 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:36:18 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 13:36:19 The build has errored. (master - ca8dce1 #5891 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/137565582 13:36:19 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 13:38:04 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:42:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:44:50 -!- fazisi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:45:20 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:48:05 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:49:44 -!- WorkSight has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:50:39 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:03:56 -!- flappity_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:19:11 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 14:21:34 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:54:43 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:58:50 !log LogicNinja dsgl killer=hydra 14:58:51 No games for LogicNinja (dsgl killer=hydra). 14:58:58 !log LogicNinja dsgl chei 14:58:59 26. LogicNinja, XL9 DsGl, T:8863: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/LogicNinja/morgue-LogicNinja-20160614-181842.txt 14:59:26 !tv LogicNinja dsgl chei 14:59:27 26. LogicNinja, XL9 DsGl, T:8863 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 14:59:49 !nuke 14:59:49 FooTV playlist clear requested by *. 14:59:52 ??tv 14:59:52 tv[1/2]: An array of television channels are available by telnetting to termcast.develz.org, broadcasting recordings of (parts of) Crawl games, both user-controlled and automated. See also {footv}, {fightclub}, or !tvdef channelname for other channels. 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:15 found this: amulet of Makihout {Harm *Drain +Fly rF+ rC+} yet picked up an unid amulet which ended up being amulet of harm. shouldn't it have been a recognized item? 15:00:24 nah 15:00:46 -!- olscumpy has joined ##crawl-dev 15:02:10 -!- Quincunx has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:05:59 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:06:28 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 15:07:59 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 15:08:29 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:09:03 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 15:12:27 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:17:17 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/decks.png 15:17:25 a simpler time 15:18:15 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:18:43 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/enter_zot_closed3.png 15:19:01 -!- somebody has quit [] 15:20:24 i couldn't get the tall zot entrance to work, sadly 15:22:10 -!- WorkSight has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:29:53 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 15:33:22 -!- removeelyvilon_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:34:12 If you find a Zin shrine with the gold behind bars 15:34:18 is that supposed to open when you convert 15:36:21 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:46:21 -!- ada482 has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 15:47:35 -!- orionstein has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:47:50 -!- Mindiell has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:48:30 -!- removeelyvilon_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:49:18 -!- Mindiell has joined ##crawl-dev 15:50:46 -!- ada482 has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 15:59:33 -!- wobwob has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:07 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:03:52 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:06:12 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:06:44 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:06:44 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:14:04 -!- Octobro has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:14:38 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:17:44 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 16:22:18 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:25:43 -!- Nasst has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:27:20 Go to location does not attempt to path through water when you have the water walking ability 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10503 by eliotn 16:29:55 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:30:54 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:33:01 -!- chewymouse has joined ##crawl-dev 16:37:37 Undesirable Hep Behavior 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10504 by amaril 16:38:33 -!- chewymouse has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:49:06 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:52:34 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:55:28 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:58:55 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 17:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:59 -!- aparent has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:01:25 -!- raikaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:01:25 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 17:01:30 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:02:12 -!- aparent has joined ##crawl-dev 17:04:16 -!- ystael has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:10:03 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:10:20 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:12:02 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:13:55 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 17:15:48 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:17:19 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:24:03 -!- DevlanMud|Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:26:33 -!- koboldina has joined ##crawl-dev 17:29:20 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:29:21 !tell removeelyvilon_ No. 17:29:22 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let removeelyvilon_ know. 17:29:33 !tell ontoclasm I like your card backs! 17:29:34 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 17:29:43 (and the tallzot) 17:30:50 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-650-gab89c2a: Update cleaving description (10493) 10(33 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ab89c2a589b6 17:31:03 -!- zizzlebop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:32:26 PleasingFungus: xD 17:32:26 ontoclasm: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 17:32:30 they're super old 17:32:42 from when there were 15,000,000 deck types 17:33:12 if you can figure out how to make tallzot work i'll put it in 17:33:14 xD 17:34:32 seems like a can of worms, tbh 17:34:40 no pun intended??? 17:35:50 for any devs (wheals) watching, I tagged 10503 as simple since it seems like it should be, but it's probably the sort of thing someone should fix rather than leaving it around. 17:36:09 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:37:27 -!- andre_1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:37:34 i thought that was intentional, since water walking isn't permanent 17:37:44 idk 17:37:45 possible 17:37:57 yeah actually that does sound very familiar 17:43:22 anyone here in the bay area want to speak at Roguelike Conf? 17:43:23 bh: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 17:44:01 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:44:17 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:44:40 !tell |amethyst gosh. that was years ago. it might've been due to OOD ghosts appearing or ghosts getting obliterated during shifts 17:44:42 bh: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 17:45:46 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:45:47 roguelike conf??? 17:45:50 i gotta go but send me a tell 17:45:53 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]] 17:46:44 !tell PleasingFungus https://roguelike.club/ the organizer asked me to find a crawl dev who wants to speak 17:46:44 bh: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 17:47:47 -!- tingol has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:48:36 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 17:49:06 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 17:53:42 -!- jefus- has joined ##crawl-dev 17:53:59 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:54:07 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 17:56:42 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:57:21 -!- jeefus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:08:36 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-650-gab89c2a (34) 18:11:09 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:14:32 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 18:14:33 The build passed. (master - ab89c2a #5892 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/137640095 18:14:33 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 18:15:14 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-a0-650-gab89c2a (34) 18:16:43 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:25:33 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:27:00 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:28:42 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 18:33:05 -!- halv has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:45:28 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 18:47:04 bh: sounds cool! 18:47:04 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 18:47:18 i'd be down, though i'm not sure what i'd talk about 18:47:21 crawlcode, maybe 18:47:25 or the dev process 18:50:25 you're in the bay area, PleasingFungus? 18:50:25 -!- somebody has quit [Client Quit] 18:50:36 the bay area is a state of mind. 18:50:37 but, also, yes. 18:51:04 -!- fufumann has quit [Quit: und weg...] 18:51:34 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:51:47 the bay area is the best place to be from 18:52:22 wow disagree 18:52:43 I've never been to california. I've been to every state that borders it though 18:53:02 have you been to baja california 18:53:18 don't worry, california is exactly like Oregon 18:53:19 er... 18:53:22 s/state/US state/ 18:53:26 :) 18:53:49 -!- neunon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:54:14 Norcal = Oregon, Socal = Mexico, that's basically it 18:54:27 the middle parts are exactly like Nevada 18:54:31 this is NOT canon. 18:54:31 for level gen, if you had a smaller layout, does that adversely affect the number of monsters and loot? 18:54:36 hm, i'mve been to all the states it borders on, including baja 18:55:16 johnstein: i believe that there are fewer monsters and items, yes 18:55:21 ie is the number of monsters and loot a function of the size of the floor 18:55:22 though i might quibble with 'adversely' 18:55:35 johnstein: level monster placement doesn't care about size per se, but it does affect vaults, which affects monster placement 18:55:44 ah yea 18:55:51 ah, i was wrong! 18:55:54 obviously this is why mapstat exosts 18:56:01 EXHUASTS 18:56:15 fapstat? 18:57:26 if you want ot know how a layout is affecting monster/loot placement, you probably need to use objstat, actually 18:57:47 mapstat will tell you which vaults will place specifically, but not what generated on the level in general 18:58:53 yep. I often use the wrong names. 18:59:05 i have never used a wrong name 18:59:11 Lasty: sa thread thinks u is OP 18:59:19 hah, Rast reported my post in the "no mods allowed thread" 18:59:21 well played 18:59:21 in related news, I made my first macros last night! 18:59:26 PleasingFungus: they might be right 18:59:32 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:59:37 "Making his paralysis only affect adjacent enemies and weakening the pain mirror would make him less overpowered. He's definitely fun and unique, but maybe too strong. " 18:59:43 i stil need to try u 18:59:47 i've been slacking 18:59:49 &*R&{ and &P 18:59:56 <|amethyst> I still need to try U with axes 18:59:57 -!- Dracunos_ is now known as Dracunos 18:59:58 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:00:10 johnstein: watch your language 19:00:10 !lg * (hep|fedhas|usk) cv>0.18 / won 19:00:15 167/4638 games for * (((hep || fedhas || usk)) cv>0.18): N=167/4638 (3.60%) 19:00:24 !lg * (hep|fedhas|usk) cv>0.18 s=god / won 19:00:29 167/4638 games for * (((hep || fedhas || usk)) cv>0.18): 94/2226x Hepliaklqana [4.22%], 33/1086x Ukayaw [3.04%], 33/1142x Uskayaw [2.89%], 7/184x Fedhas [3.80%] 19:00:46 h the real champ 19:00:49 apparently 19:00:54 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 19:00:55 !lg * (hep|fedhas|usk|trog|veh|chei) cv>0.18 s=god/ won 19:00:56 361/15154 games for * (((hep || fedhas || usk || trog || veh || chei)) cv>0.18): 101/6692x Trog [1.51%], 94/2226x Hepliaklqana [4.22%], 54/2110x Vehumet [2.56%], 39/1714x Cheibriados [2.28%], 33/1142x Uskayaw [2.89%], 33/1086x Ukayaw [3.04%], 7/184x Fedhas [3.80%] 19:01:01 well invalid since it's not looking at tenpercenters 19:01:01 ancestors still seem real strong 19:01:10 !lg * fedhas recentish / won 19:01:11 183/6065 games for * (fedhas recentish): N=183/6065 (3.02%) 19:01:19 -!- Bcadren_ is now known as Bcadren 19:01:34 !lg greatplayers (hep|fedhas|usk|trog|veh|chei) cv>0.18 s=god/ won 19:01:38 88/687 games for greatplayers (((hep || fedhas || usk || trog || veh || chei)) cv>0.18): 31/151x Hepliaklqana [20.53%], 18/206x Trog [8.74%], 11/95x Uskayaw [11.58%], 10/59x Ukayaw [16.95%], 9/73x Cheibriados [12.33%], 7/81x Vehumet [8.64%], 2/22x Fedhas [9.09%] 19:01:44 These queries are proof! 19:02:10 I'm surprised at how much that jumps up w/ greatplayers 19:02:12 hep has had a couple nerfs recently, ofc 19:02:20 Lasty: greatplayers are pretty good 19:02:22 and Usk has had some buffs 19:02:32 amalloy: disagree. They're pretty great tho. 19:02:48 <|amethyst> when are we going to nerf Chei? 19:02:59 gammafunk: i noticed the tenpercenters nick. what is it supposed to be? people with win% over 10? 19:03:06 |amethyst: after Chei gets elected president 19:03:17 amalloy: it's a Berderism for that, yeah 19:03:19 |amethyst: when you win with chei 19:03:41 that's the rule, if |amethyst wins with a god without exploiting a bug that he created 19:03:45 that god gets nerfed 19:03:59 Interestingly, Ukayaw was pre-buff, Uskayaw is partially after buffs, winrates in that small sample are lower. :p 19:04:03 <|amethyst> it's true 19:04:12 <|amethyst> !lg . won !meleebug / god 19:04:13 2/2 games for |amethyst (won !meleebug): N=2/2 (100.00%) 19:04:17 <|amethyst> !lg . won !meleebug s=god 19:04:18 2 games for |amethyst (won !meleebug): Kikubaaqudgha, Elyvilon 19:04:24 <|amethyst> !lg . won !meleebug s=god,cv 19:04:25 2 games for |amethyst (won !meleebug): Kikubaaqudgha (0.9), Elyvilon (0.10-a) 19:04:34 yeah, it's really true! 19:04:35 gammafunk: I was expecting the punchline to be something more like, "when you win with Chei . . . you're winning with Hitler." 19:04:56 !hs * uka 19:04:57 2669. Yermak the Ninja (L27 HOAs of Uskayaw), escaped with the Orb and 14 runes on 2016-06-02 02:12:34, with 25589452 points after 51063 turns and 8:26:04. 19:04:58 Lasty: that's a liberal punchline, try to think of the conservative one if you want me to make it 19:05:08 !hs * uka s=God 19:05:08 2669 games for * (uka sc<1000000000): 1527x Ukayaw, 1142x Uskayaw 19:05:10 gammafunk: it is? 19:05:15 we are the 90% 19:05:26 is basically Hitler!!!! 19:05:39 !lg * uka / won s=god 19:05:40 80/2669 games for * (uka): 47/1527x Ukayaw [3.08%], 33/1142x Uskayaw [2.89%] 19:05:49 I had no idea that was liberal-only. What's the conservative equivalent? 19:06:07 i was a tenpercenter, once.... 19:06:18 Well you can make one up, just think of silly things you've heard conservatives say 19:06:22 !lg * !boring uka / won s=god 19:06:23 80/2592 games for * (!boring uka): 47/1484x Ukayaw [3.17%], 33/1108x Uskayaw [2.98%] 19:06:46 conservatives also dislike hitler, except for the alt-right 4channers 19:06:55 idk what those guys count as. their irony levels are too high 19:07:16 those are indeed the canonical conservative groupings 19:07:23 4chan and not 4chan 19:07:34 i mean 19:07:36 who else likes hitler? 19:07:42 i guess the kkk? 19:07:49 the mountain dew corporation 19:07:50 sure, neo nazis? 19:07:53 white power groups in general, right? 19:07:55 <|amethyst> I don't know, wasn't Hitler Catholic? 19:07:58 haha 19:08:45 !lm * uniq=adolf 19:08:45 No milestones for * (uniq=adolf). 19:08:47 oh, predates the milestone maybe 19:08:55 |amethyst: does a Hitler shit in the woods? 19:08:59 was going to joke "those people don't like hitler" 19:09:35 <|amethyst> Lasty: I think he has a grad student work it out with a pencil 19:10:08 assume a circular Hitler woods-shit 19:10:14 perfectly spherical 19:10:20 exactly 19:10:24 <|amethyst> subhuman centipede? 19:10:24 let's also ignore friction 19:10:40 #PhrasesNeverPreviouslyExpressed 19:10:49 That's the paradox where you start with one spherical shit and divide it into three spherical shits of the same volume as the original? 19:12:00 lmao 19:12:01 all this will be good material for PF's talk about the crawl dev process 19:12:17 Tweeted to #crawlcode when?? 19:12:21 bh will need to get me an 'in' with these supposed conference devs, apparently 19:12:27 Lasty: shortly after the commit! 19:13:26 I'll get it out right after ranged reform 19:14:53 !banach gammafunk 19:14:54 :p 19:15:08 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:15:10 dang 19:15:11 I think you're looking for !bacchanal gammafunk 19:17:24 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 19:17:36 <|amethyst> when I stayed in Poland, it was in an apartment on Ulica Stefana Banacha 19:17:42 <|amethyst> s/Poland/Warsaw/ 19:17:56 duplicating gamma is probably not the best of ideas anyway :p 19:24:54 -!- Demise has joined ##crawl-dev 19:27:13 -!- Amphouse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:27:13 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:31:04 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:31:45 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:31:53 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:33:05 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:36:01 -!- mngrif has quit [Changing host] 19:37:03 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:38:52 -!- jefus- is now known as jefus 19:45:39 wuss! 19:46:55 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]] 19:51:05 pleasingfungus are you the one who initially created yaras 19:51:11 ya 19:51:12 ra 19:51:16 are you ready for a sweet idea 19:51:17 -!- Tarara has quit [Quit: To Be Continued...] 19:51:22 i was born for ideas 19:51:57 yaras chain reactions: if a monster gets caught in a yaras explosion and has a buff or debuff, it loses it and then explodes in another yaras explosion 19:52:20 sort of like rod of ignition but with yaras 19:52:23 hm 19:52:30 sounds like a cool xom or evocable effect 19:52:40 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:52:48 yara's surprising bouquet 19:52:49 fr rename god to xomboldina 19:52:53 make it a wild magic effect? 19:53:24 maybe it'll convince koboldina to play nem again 19:55:20 that actually sounds like a cool effect for wild magic. but are there really that many instances in the game when it *would* do a chain reaction? maybe troll shaman packs 19:56:44 amalloy, I could force it 19:56:49 by casting stuff on a bunch of bad guys 19:56:51 or casting discord first 19:56:57 or maybe metabolic englaciation 19:59:51 -!- WorkSight has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:17 sigh 20:01:26 new v:5 strat... 20:04:50 gammafunk loves these ideas 20:04:59 maybe a scroll 20:05:02 like old cancellation 20:05:10 but yara's, instead 20:05:13 more than he likes dynast's music selection? 20:14:16 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:14:46 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.19-a0-651-g0ac6127: Phantom tile edit 10(40 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0ac6127eb500 20:14:46 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.19-a0-652-g5c94007: Edit some Invo tiles 10(40 minutes ago, 5 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5c940074d270 20:15:28 Crawl 0.19: The Phantom Tile Edit 20:15:42 the phantom of the tile edits 20:16:05 -!- edsrzf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:16:26 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:17:52 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:18:40 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:21:04 -!- Dix has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21:28 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:26:53 03|amethyst02 07* 0.19-a0-653-gddd2d10: Fix up a notch in sunken temple. 10(33 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ddd2d1036d62 20:30:28 -!- olscumpy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:31:42 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:32:18 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 20:33:00 pleasingfungus this is very belated but the scroll idea is good, imo 20:33:02 could replace silence scroll 20:33:13 it seems silly to have a scroll that is just a spell 20:33:22 *cough immolation* 20:33:23 instead of a unique scroll effect 20:33:31 -!- somebody has quit [] 20:33:31 immolation is a very good scroll, and fun 20:33:36 fear 20:33:48 immolation isn't just a spell tho, there's no spell in the game that duplications immolation's full effect 20:34:01 also immo is my favorite scroll pls do not remove 20:34:10 yara's violent immolation 20:34:14 but your idea isn't an existing spell??? 20:34:22 actually does yara's remove immolation? 20:34:28 it's the same concept as immolation really: a scroll that acts as a souped up version of an existing spell 20:34:38 i believe inner flame is dispellable 20:34:41 it seems like it should be 20:34:42 nice. 20:35:21 2-scroll combos... 20:35:45 gammafunk is going to have a heart attack 20:35:49 that'd be really weird, actually, since you'd probably have some of the inner flames still active while they're getting hit by the yara's 20:37:18 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:39:13 -!- Demise has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:46:08 -!- Tarara has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:46:48 -!- olscumpy has joined ##crawl-dev 20:48:35 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:49:35 I wil remove many nice things in order to calm my heart 20:49:42 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-654-g38522c7: Ban fragile rings (amalloy) 10(49 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/38522c753c41 20:50:07 The calming, soothing sound of a commit that removes nice things from players... 20:50:10 PleasingFungus: ITYM permanently destroy all fragile rings 20:50:18 too late... 20:53:25 -!- ada482 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:53:46 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-655-gd416de5: Use 'rotten' tile for inedible chunks (serephina) 10(53 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d416de5ac44c 20:54:30 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-656-g5b6982f: Clarify Idealise description (amalloy) 10(15 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5b6982f913b4 20:54:36 !lm * uniq=bai_suzhen 20:54:36 chequers: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 20:54:36 9. [2016-06-14 22:55:43] grandjackal the Warrior (L21 DrFi of Pakellas) killed Bai Suzhen on turn 54605. (Vaults:3) 20:54:44 PleasingFungus: death channel for hexer!!!!! 20:55:15 no ally spam! 20:55:20 agh, the dcssca dev doesn't use checkwhite... 20:55:23 too late 20:57:49 what if there were a summoner ancestor that could summon more ancestors 20:58:06 his commit discipline is terrible, too 20:58:11 all kinds of unrelated changes in the same commits! 20:58:17 amalloy: lol 20:58:22 'summoner' was one of my initial thoughts on archetypes 20:58:24 yeah 20:58:42 it's impossible to follow progress through commits. only recourse is changelog-ca.md 20:58:49 but that often skips smaller changes 20:58:57 https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:god:propose:ally_god&rev=1449943411 'priest' 20:59:09 lol @ hexer 20:59:14 "Could be hard to balance…" 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:06:14 -!- docnvk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:08:37 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-656-g5b6982f (34) 21:11:54 wow, burn spellbooks gives almost no piety 21:13:47 what! I burn spellbooks all the time to get piety, are you telling me I'm wasting my precious books 21:14:16 totalpiety += 2; 21:14:28 so more useful as a damage source 21:15:28 -!- lordfrikk has joined ##crawl-dev 21:15:43 guess piety inflation is a thing now that the old sources of piety (i.e. corpses) are gone... 21:16:18 piety inflation? 21:17:08 sacrificing a corpse gave 0 or 1 piety. this was the norm. now that exploration is a hidden piety source for most gods, people see the piety you get from e.g. ru sacrifices and think that's the norm for piety gain? 21:17:24 um 21:17:31 corpse sacrifice was also hidden, ofc 21:17:41 this is only a problem for people who are source diving 21:17:47 ? 21:17:54 the piety gained from corpse sac 21:17:58 more like just that spellbooks are relatively rare, and it surprised me the piety gain was equal to that of kills 21:18:01 you never got #s for that 21:18:05 chequers: uh 21:18:09 I think you misunderstood my point. pressing p is not hidden 21:18:15 i think very few kills give multiple points of piety? 21:19:03 but whatever, forget I said anything since my point got lost long ago 21:19:34 no worries 21:19:57 ("an action that gives piety is now expected to give a boatload of it") 21:20:28 -!- Pekkekke has quit [] 21:20:56 <|amethyst> ? 21:21:06 <|amethyst> I'd expect anyone playing Trog to realise that is not the case 21:21:24 <|amethyst> since they kill monsters 21:22:02 Right, I don't think ru sacrifices are what most people except from piety gain 21:22:13 technically, fedhas still exists 21:22:39 mostly just that from the messaging of burn spellbooks I expected it to be mostly a piety source, not a damage source 21:22:51 <|amethyst> I think burn books should give no piety 21:22:56 aw 21:23:05 <|amethyst> you already get conjure flame out of it 21:23:06 I think burning spellbooks are mostly a piety source, not a damage source 21:23:13 it's fun to encourage troggers to burn every book they come across 21:23:17 very flavor 21:23:20 |amethyst: you get conjure flame that you can throw at dudes feet 21:23:28 not so fun if it's something you should stop bothering with later on 21:23:43 you could have something like fedhas pray, where books in los just vanish if you pray in los 21:23:50 no!!! 21:23:53 although fedhas pray is the last remaining use of p, isnt it 21:23:56 ya 21:24:00 we were gonna remove that, maybe 21:24:15 how would you worship gods 21:24:17 just have the action auto occur? i'd like that 21:24:20 Lightli: > 21:24:30 what about making xom slap you with a trout 21:24:35 <|amethyst> err 21:24:41 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:24:42 I've not really heard yet why book burning is in some kind of problematic state 21:24:44 <|amethyst> I think having fedhas auto-p would be bad 21:25:00 <|amethyst> unless fedhas is changed to give you potions of porridge like Gozag 21:25:20 re book burning, i think it tries to do two things at once, which makes its purpose less clear 21:25:36 chequers: the thought was to have rotting corpses automatically sprout toadstools + piety 21:25:41 I don't think its purpose is unclear though 21:25:57 the purpose is to give you piety, and to act as a throwable conjure flame. it does both of those things 21:25:58 lots of things do two things at once, this isn't some kind of inherent problem 21:26:02 right 21:26:22 it doesn't give you 100 piety, but it's not a completely negligible amount of piety, either 21:26:22 Trog's hand: does two things at once 21:28:22 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:28:31 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:28:55 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 21:30:14 -!- TBot709 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:30:49 -!- wheals_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:31:14 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:32:06 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:37:01 -!- dude70 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:37:08 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:42:52 hm 21:43:01 i wonder if dcssca's shield-removal code was actually tested? 21:43:04 it seems like it shouldn't work 21:43:45 oh, i see 21:44:34 -!- melllvar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:45:34 -!- JStrange has joined ##crawl-dev 21:46:15 -!- Arivia has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 21:46:31 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:48:02 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:48:41 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 21:53:18 -!- Laptop_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:53:52 i wonder what's going on in the no mods allowed tavern thread 21:53:52 wheals: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 21:53:55 we may never know 21:53:56 !messages 21:53:57 (1/1) olscumpy said (4d 20h 18m 47s ago): nice boots. wanna faq? (on /roguelikedev of course!) 21:54:04 oops 21:54:22 apparently gamma posted in there and got reported for it 21:54:49 lol 21:54:50 <|amethyst> quis modiet ipso modes? 21:55:33 but how could anyone punish him? the mods can't confirm it happened 21:55:37 !messages 21:55:38 (1/1) PleasingFungus said (4h 26m 3s ago): I like your card backs! 21:55:58 amalloy: obv he should ban himself 21:56:09 that thread is so good 21:56:12 and then unban himself with a strongly worded letter not to do it again 21:56:24 there was a tileschat meetup 21:56:24 incredible... 21:56:26 write an apology in that same thread 21:56:47 dude, that's not an original image 21:56:52 rclick -> search google for this image 21:57:43 noo 21:57:46 i wanted to believe 21:57:56 :( 21:58:15 sorry mate 21:59:48 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:26 i initially thought it was a prank, but everyone played along so well... 22:00:32 i should never have entered the No Devs Thread. 22:01:05 PleasingFungus: maybe it was real, and someone planted false counter-evidence on google 22:01:21 honestly there's no way to tell 22:01:34 wow, this dcssca code is busted as hell 22:02:03 maybe i'll submit a patch 22:02:47 -!- Amphouse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:03:24 please fix one small thing, implying by omission that the entire crawl-dev team agrees with every other change that's been made 22:03:26 -!- DevlanMud|Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:04:32 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-657-ga01d668: Checkwhite... 10(15 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a01d6685539b 22:04:56 oh no, ellipses with checkwhite! 22:05:03 look at 22:05:05 the file 22:05:44 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 22:05:44 that's a whole lotta millimarvins 22:06:16 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-658-gf2c134a: Prompt when wielding 2h weapons w/shield 10(80 seconds ago, 1 file, 35+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f2c134afbd62 22:06:34 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:07:10 i will be shocked if there aren't bugs in that last commit 22:07:14 PleasingFungus: fr add 'darkness magic' to vanilla crawl 22:07:22 is... that a ca-ism? 22:07:27 i seriously can't keep up with that guy 22:07:28 yes 22:07:32 what does it do? 22:07:47 removes your white privilege 22:08:10 it lets you cast darkness spells, you dummy 22:08:18 -!- Esox has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:08:49 i have a follow-up question. 22:08:51 can you guess, what it is. 22:09:16 spell school with only one spell in it: Darkenss 22:09:39 i'm not sure what spells count as darkness spells except for darkness 22:10:30 lol 22:10:33 -!- JStrange_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:10:35 my satire becomes reality 22:10:36 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:11:12 dang 22:11:18 that circus animal sif... 22:11:32 only gammafunk gets to call sif a circus animal 22:11:39 !!! 22:11:43 shadow creatures (replacing the abyssal aspect) presumably 22:11:48 "For 50 piety, all spells cost 0 mp for 20-40 turns, based on invocations." 22:12:20 -!- JStrange has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:12:46 geekosaur: yes 22:14:50 silence too 22:15:27 -!- somebody_ is now known as somebody 22:15:38 that certainly seems like a powerful ability. 50 piety is...pretty hich 22:15:41 high 22:16:38 <|amethyst> hmm 22:16:42 -!- Laptop_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:16:42 I wonder if the dcss-ca dev has ever played a spellcaster 22:16:50 <|amethyst> I think I see a problem with that shield code 22:17:02 <|amethyst> not sure though 22:17:41 -!- somebody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:19:06 <|amethyst> ah, no 22:19:27 huh. summon greater demon is a player spell in dcss-ca 22:20:05 it's also a player spell in regular crawl? 22:20:13 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: that commit lets you wield a 2H weapon and shield at the same time 22:20:21 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: if the shield removal delay is interrupted 22:20:24 -!- chewymouse has joined ##crawl-dev 22:20:54 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: probably needs to schedule the weapon wield as a delay too 22:21:16 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: might be able to use DELAY_WEAPON_SWAP? 22:22:14 hahaha, you can autoexplore in lab 22:22:28 <|amethyst> chequers: is maprot gone? 22:22:41 no 22:22:45 q - a mace of feathers. 22:23:00 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: there's another problem which that would probably also fix: wielding a 2h weapon and thereby unequipping the shield takes 45 AUT, as opposed to just unequipping the shield, which takes 50 22:23:32 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: (DELAY_ARMOUR_OFF assumes that you have already been charged for the first turn) 22:23:50 -!- miek_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:26:43 -!- miek_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:27:16 |amethyst: nice, reproduced 22:27:39 hm 22:27:41 DELAY_WEAPON_SWAP is deprecated 22:27:54 wait, how do i wield a 2h weapon with a shield? 22:28:00 <|amethyst> even better, you can rename it 22:28:05 be a formicid 22:28:08 <|amethyst> chequers: stand next to a monster that will hit you 22:28:56 ok 22:29:06 then hold down . until you die, exploiting scum 22:29:17 <|amethyst> chequers: while wearing the shield, try to wield a 2H weapon, say Y to the "Unequip?" prompt, and N to "Keep disrobing?" 22:29:26 !tell lasty http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3773875&perpage=40&pagenumber=56#post461049449 + next few posts (randart harm amulets are described oddly) 22:29:26 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let lasty know. 22:29:34 ah, well I managed to crash it 22:30:11 ! 22:30:38 -!- neizenel has joined ##crawl-dev 22:30:45 <|amethyst> unfortunately, Ash doesn't seem to give you any extra bonuses for cursing the shield 22:31:08 lol 22:31:30 <|amethyst> "You are ludicrously bound." 22:31:46 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:32:05 who was the ridiculous ninja who put in the extra use-case text for teleporting to the same spot? 22:32:05 -!- wheals_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:32:33 it's been around forever 22:32:37 might be a linleyism 22:33:12 <|amethyst> hm 22:33:19 <|amethyst> doesn't seem to be quite that old, checking 22:33:32 trade you: i'll check if you figure out how to fix my bug 22:33:34 <_< 22:33:53 vague recollection of someone being confused by a teleport doing nothing, a very long time ago 22:34:22 <|amethyst> %git e1fa7f47 22:34:22 07haranp02 * 0.3-a0-507-ge1fa7f4: 1736793: slightly better teleport messages. 10(9 years ago, 1 file, 17+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e1fa7f473b27 22:34:39 -!- nikheizen has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:35:03 agh, i'm too slow... 22:35:05 but i did find it! 22:35:37 just noticed i have 18hp at a VS in lair:4 22:35:48 -!- TBot709 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:35:48 -!- neizenel is now known as nikheizen 22:35:56 <|amethyst> not sure about that number... it doesn't seem to be a sourceforge ticket number 22:37:14 mysterious 22:37:25 |amethyst, how do i fix my bad code. 22:38:31 PleasingFungus: rm -rf --no-preserve-root / 22:38:37 nooo 22:38:44 did they use a different ticket system back then maybe? 22:38:45 %git e1fa7f47^^^^ 22:38:45 07greensnark02 * 0.3-a0-503-g0645520: [1745789] Fixed shield blocking happening without shield (Eino). 10(9 years ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0645520057d5 22:39:03 lmao at that fix 22:39:11 er, whoops, could have done that without the ping maybe 22:42:04 The snark has awoken! We're all doomed! 22:42:46 it'd be nice if the snark awoke, i think i wanted him to rebuild something 22:42:49 maybe he did already 22:42:51 who knows 22:43:06 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 22:43:50 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:44:06 geekosaur: yeah, we originally used the sourceforge issue tracker 22:44:36 |amethyst said that didn't look like an issue number from sourceforge, though 22:45:07 <|amethyst> unless those were renumbered 22:45:14 <|amethyst> https://sourceforge.net/p/crawl-ref/bugs/ 22:45:41 svn revision number? 22:45:52 going 4 commits back in time decreased the number by 4 22:46:05 uhhh 22:46:15 <|amethyst> %git e1fa7f4^ 22:46:15 07haranp02 * 0.3-a0-506-gde3f476: Tutorial condolences message shouldn't display if you escape the dungeon. 10(9 years ago, 2 files, 6+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/de3f47634db1 22:46:16 hmmm 22:46:20 i think they were renumbered 22:46:35 1736793 - 1745789 is not 4 22:46:40 i'm pretty sure i remember sf issue numbers looking like that 22:46:59 my guess is that they went global -> per-project, or something like that 22:47:33 yeah 22:47:45 https://sourceforge.net/p/crawl-ref/bugs/1745789/ 22:47:51 redirects to https://sourceforge.net/p/crawl-ref/bugs/386/ 22:47:54 <|amethyst> aha 22:48:00 geekosaur: well uh, why would anyone look at more than the three least-significant digits. i sure don't 22:49:17 https://sourceforge.net/p/crawl-ref/bugs/361/ back when you could submit bugs anonymously 22:50:23 i'm not even sure how we would use a delay here 22:50:25 for swapping weapons 22:50:47 we'd want to put it on the stack before the shield swap, surely? but... hrm 22:51:46 i'm just gonna revert 22:52:41 let me just load up my game first 22:52:43 so i can feel true ultimate power just once 22:53:34 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-659-g8260ecf: Revert "Prompt when wielding 2h weapons w/shield" 10(63 seconds ago, 1 file, 9+ 35-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8260ecf2b107 22:54:01 <|amethyst> ¡learn add formicid "true ultimate power" -amalloy 22:54:01 Okay, not adding formicid => "true ultimate power" -amalloy 22:54:37 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I think something similar to DELAY_DROP_ITEM maybe? 22:55:07 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: however dropping a worn item is implemented 22:55:36 ...did he disable the 'g' key? 22:55:38 wtf 22:55:41 this fork is unplayable 22:55:55 PleasingFungus: people in *this* fork disable useful buttons that they think nobody likes 22:56:00 cf []" 22:56:03 rip... 22:56:13 |amethyst: i'm out of energy for this project, unfortunately 22:56:24 hopefully CA disables mouse and numpad support next 22:56:28 ...the game crashed when i tried to equip a whield 22:56:31 *shield 22:56:58 who uses the 'g' key anyway 22:57:00 i always rebind it 22:57:07 whatever, i'm done 22:57:15 i use g sometimes. can't make up my mind between , and g 22:57:17 last time i try to touch ca's code... 22:57:26 doy: i never ever use , 22:57:59 <|amethyst> hm 22:58:06 <|amethyst> what key do people use for macros? 22:58:13 <|amethyst> (poll) 22:58:13 both, also 22:58:14 i think 22:58:16 ctrl-d 22:58:22 i have never made a macro 22:58:23 usually ^d 22:58:26 generic macros i put on numbers 22:58:32 1-4, 6-9 22:58:37 I use ~ for the lua console 22:58:48 <|amethyst> doy: I mean, do you press ~ or ctrl-d to access the macro command 22:58:48 i also map g to G 22:58:48 oh 22:58:48 ~ 22:58:50 i didn't know ^D was a thing 22:58:54 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I want to make that the default 22:58:55 i should use ^ 22:58:56 neither did i 22:58:56 D 22:59:02 |amethyst: seems reasonable 22:59:05 <|amethyst> I could accept ctrl-d for lua console 22:59:05 because ~ is the ssh escape key 22:59:10 which makes it super irritating to use 22:59:12 <|amethyst> but ~ is so quakey 22:59:14 I think you mentioned to me how it's good to do, and I just did it 22:59:22 ~~ 22:59:30 hm 22:59:42 chequers: the ca guy has his own irc, right? 22:59:43 <|amethyst> doy: what really annoys me is screen's default ctrl-a 22:59:51 yeah 22:59:52 his own channel, w/e 22:59:54 oh, i rebound that years ago 22:59:55 <|amethyst> doy: every time I try to go to the beginning of the line... 22:59:56 |amethyst: a good turing test for emacs users 22:59:57 I hate that about screen 22:59:59 <|amethyst> yeah, I use ctrl-] 23:00:00 ^A is like the dumbest possible default 23:00:03 these days I use tmux anyhow 23:00:05 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:07 i use ^F 23:00:10 its default is ctrl-b 23:00:16 (but i also use tmux) 23:00:17 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:00:20 basically everything but ^z is dumb 23:00:24 <|amethyst> which conflicts with following tags, but I don't mind having to double-tap for that 23:00:32 amalloy: ^c 23:00:44 i just map enter to follow tags 23:01:10 i guess ^c is okay. i like ^z since the suspend key is basically all replaced by tmux features 23:01:23 or screen or whatever 23:01:37 oh I thought you were speaking in some kind of generality 23:01:49 like "all modified+key combinations are dumb but ^z" 23:02:15 PleasingFungus: ##circusfork, we're chatting now 23:02:16 i guess that sounds like another absurd claim i would make 23:02:23 PleasingFungus: i just cleared depths:1 as a vs xl12 23:02:49 I know this good modifier key, but you haven't heard of it 23:03:35 <|amethyst> "the suspend key is basically all replaced by tmux features" sounds like an absurd claim, but I suppose interactive ctrl-z != job control 23:04:04 i never got in the habit of using job control to begin with 23:04:06 well my plans to get IRC support from this pydle module are out the window 23:04:14 <|amethyst> rarely would you be ctrl-zing something then later wait(1)ing for it 23:04:25 that said, ^Z would just be a pretty irritating key combo to use regularly 23:04:35 <|amethyst> (as opposed to running it in the background to begin with and doing that) 23:04:38 <|amethyst> what about ^^ 23:04:47 <|amethyst> how often do you need to send SIGABRT? 23:05:09 gammafunk: are you fighting with sasl python irc? 23:05:27 no I'm not fighting with anything 23:05:30 <|amethyst> oh, right, vim 23:05:35 it's just pydle isn't the right choice 23:06:01 <|amethyst> clearly you need one separate modifier key for each layer 23:06:19 I forget what's sent by ^c and what's sent by ^z 23:06:29 <|amethyst> ^C is SIGINT and ^Z is SIGSTOP 23:06:37 ok, yeah the former I was about to say 23:06:39 <|amethyst> err 23:06:40 ^Z is SIGTSTP 23:06:42 but for ^z I had no clue 23:06:44 <|amethyst> I guess SIGTSTP 23:06:45 <|amethyst> yeah 23:06:59 and the other one...what is it 23:07:15 <|amethyst> oh, I misremembered 23:07:16 SIGTERM is a special thing you send through kill? 23:07:31 <|amethyst> SIGTERM is what 'kill' without any options sends 23:07:43 right, ok 23:08:00 <|amethyst> it's ctrl-\ that sends SIGABRT 23:08:11 my loop prints out "pid 3536: send SIGINT or SIGTERM to exit." 23:08:18 which is great when the programmer himself doesn't know what those are 23:08:33 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-659-g8260ecf (34) 23:08:49 but the handler seems to be working fine despite my ignorance 23:08:53 -!- andre_1 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:09:29 <|amethyst> well, real programmers read the manual... so of course man SIGINT works 23:09:39 <|amethyst> maybe it's sigint? 23:09:49 <|amethyst> hm, what about man signal ? 23:09:56 <|amethyst> aha, man 7 signal 23:09:58 <|amethyst> obviously 23:10:08 man for kill probably as well 23:11:00 kill will tell you 23:11:57 kill -l 23:12:14 <|amethyst> amalloy: that doesn't exactly tell you much about the signals or what they mean :) 23:12:19 SEE ALSO: makhleb(666) 23:12:40 yeah this signal(7) page is nice 23:12:52 <|amethyst> BTW, I think Unix missed a real opportunity with naming the interrupt signal 23:13:04 <|amethyst> because SIGINT could have been a signal you send to snoop on a process instead 23:13:43 and HUMINT to snoop on the user? 23:13:51 <|amethyst> exactly 23:14:22 <|amethyst> I guess that means "HUMMUS" is when you send people to beat someone up 23:14:48 <|amethyst> or maybe when humans arrange sounds into a melodious sequence 23:18:21 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:19:24 missing altars for Uskayaw and Hepliaklqana 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10505 by melllvar 23:19:24 -!- destrovel has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:19:29 melodious is my middle name 23:20:14 that new phantom tile is extremely eye-rending 23:21:52 <|amethyst> ah 23:21:57 <|amethyst> figured out that one 23:22:17 ? 23:22:29 !source phantom.png 23:22:30 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/rltiles/mon/undead/phantom.png 23:22:48 that one? 23:22:58 yeah 23:23:09 hard for me to tell without seeing it in-game 23:23:31 note: taht melllvar's game was started a month ago so I think that's why no altars 23:23:59 ill let you know if i see another one 23:24:03 <|amethyst> yes 23:24:14 grammus: can you look it up in help right quikc? 23:24:16 *quick 23:24:21 ?/M 23:24:21 ah, i was wondering about that, but didn't see the import 23:24:23 Matching terms (1864): !am, !help:!amiwinningmore, !help:!armourdodgepenalty, !help:!beem, !help:!commit, !help:!dam, !help:!firstgameafter, !help:!karmicbalance, !help:!lgm, !help:!listmax, !help:!me, !help:!moralvictory, !help:!orbruntombtv, !help:!polymorphtv, !help:!rm, !help:!timeline, !help:!wintimes, !help:karmicbalance, !help:me, ##crawl-admin, ${names}_cards, *contam, -mag, 0.17_roadmap, ... 23:24:34 er no, Sequell 23:25:16 hrm 23:25:23 !help !amiwinningmore 23:25:24 Unknown command: !amiwinningmore 23:25:42 !amiwinningmore 23:25:54 weird 23:25:58 <|amethyst> !learn q !help:!amiwinningmore 23:25:59 !help:!amiwinningmore[1/1]: This function generates a plot of a player's wins verses the major releases of Crawl 23:26:11 oh I know 23:26:16 <|amethyst> !fn amiwinningmore 23:26:16 No user function 'amiwinningmore' () 23:26:16 !help amiwinningmore 23:26:17 Unknown command: !amiwinningmore 23:26:20 er 23:26:24 rip 23:26:26 <|amethyst> !learn del !help:!amiwinningmore 23:26:26 Deleted !help:!amiwinningmore[1/1]: This function generates a plot of a player's wins verses the major releases of Crawl 23:26:42 !amiwinningmore !gfspeed 23:26:52 no longer exists? 23:26:56 <|amethyst> I think so 23:26:57 -!- ontoclasm1 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:27:01 <|amethyst> !cmd !amiwinningmore 23:27:01 No command !amiwinningmore 23:27:06 welp 23:27:12 make Sequell great again 23:27:22 I know the answer is yes anyhow 23:27:27 so it's a useless command 23:27:55 !help !karmicbalance 23:27:55 !karmicbalance: This command displays the win rates of violent religions vs. nonviolent religions for the Crawl player base as a whole 23:28:19 wow, some real boutique commands here 23:28:40 oh yea 23:28:53 forgot who that was 23:29:07 how do you get the tile 23:29:16 grammus: do a partial search 23:29:22 like enter om 23:29:31 there it is 23:29:33 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:29:42 I guess that's kind of jarring 23:29:53 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:30:01 itll probably bother anybody else who wears glasses 23:30:05 that feeling of blurriness 23:30:10 its not awful but yeah 23:30:20 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:30:43 ontoclasm1: Is the new phantom tile maybe a bit too blurry to be pleasant to look at? 23:31:14 grammus: no promises, but thanks for pointing it out 23:31:25 yeah no prob 23:31:28 grammus: Also tell Zibudo to stop being so weird 23:31:39 i actually give him most of the ideas 23:31:41 hes my workhorse 23:31:43 ! 23:33:03 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 23:33:05 -!- JStrange_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:33:29 -!- Dix has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:37:58 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 23:40:57 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 23:43:22 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:49:00 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:50:27 !karmicbalance 23:50:37 "The Karmic Balance of Crawl to-date: Violence win% N=22059/1316962 (1.67%) .vs. nonviolence win% N=6073/220687 (2.75%)" 23:50:59 er 23:51:01 that seems odd 23:51:13 oh, i think i see 23:52:20 !cmd !karmicbalance 23:52:21 Command: !karmicbalance => .echo "The Karmic Balance of Crawl to-date: Violence win% $(!violentwinning $*) .vs. nonviolence win% $(!nonviolentwinning $*)" 23:52:29 !cmd !violentwinning 23:52:29 Command: !violentwinning => !lg * violentgod / won 23:52:33 !kw violentgod 23:52:34 Keyword: violentgod => god='Kikubaaqudgha|Makhleb|Beogh|Lugonu|Trog|Okawaru|Qazlal|Vehumet' 23:52:36 !kw nonviolentgod 23:52:37 Keyword: nonviolentgod => god='sif|ash|ely|jiyva' 23:55:11 what's the standard for being a violent god 23:55:55 and a nonviolent one for that matter, fedhas seems every bit as nonviolent as jiyva 23:55:58 gotta have a name starting with K/M/B/L/T/O/Q/V. that's just standard 23:56:39 TSO also gets piety from kills, I guess killing demons/undead isn't considered violent 23:56:53 <|amethyst> I guess it is "piety for killing natural creatures" 23:56:54 -!- ontoclasm1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:57:05 but it seems to be "piety directly from killing natural things" vs "not" 23:57:20 fedhas doesn't give piety directly from killing natural things any more than sif and jiyva do 23:57:20 but then exclusion of F doesn't make a lot of sense for nonviolent 23:57:59 maybe the command author just thought F was cheating and banned it from competition 23:58:15 TSO does give piety for killing some natural things 23:58:18 like deep elf sorcerers 23:58:28 also wouldn't Z be nonviolent? 23:58:30 <|amethyst> hm, qazlal but not dith 23:58:35 it's just exploration and gold, right? 23:58:48 <|amethyst> Z gives piety for killing chaotics 23:58:55 right 23:59:03 |amethyst: well and dith for fire things? 23:59:10 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 23:59:10 I guess all those are not natural 23:59:18 or does it look at fire spells 23:59:21 <|amethyst> dith also gives piety for kills of non-fiery natural creatures 23:59:24 <|amethyst> just not as much 23:59:37 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 23:59:39 I bet that command just predates dith 23:59:45 er, well Q 23:59:50 so who knows