00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:30 what spiny change 00:03:36 i think it's no worse than previous 00:03:40 but still needs revision 00:04:28 ds spiny damage now scales heavily with player xl, but is barely affected by mut level 00:04:34 which i hadn't realized when i merged it (oops) 00:09:16 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-328-g3707654 (34) 00:10:02 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 00:10:02 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:10:33 maybe mut level should affect proc rate 00:10:36 24/40/60 00:10:39 *20 00:10:47 that makes it quite significant on average 00:10:57 but doesn't really tweak the per-instance damage 00:11:06 since per-instance damage is affected by AC 00:12:27 is that significantly better than multiplying damage? 00:14:17 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:15:52 well, i assumed that would make spiny too good 00:16:13 i'm assuming you mean multiple damage by 1/1.25/1.5 or something like that 00:17:27 if you ignore ac, it's the same thing, surely 00:17:34 multiplying damage vs multiplying trigger rate 00:18:26 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:20:17 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:22:03 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:22:17 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:24:21 oh, i didn't realise you were suggesting that 00:24:33 yeah it could ignore ac 00:24:33 oh i wasn't 00:24:33 i didn't really consider that change 00:24:47 i was just saying, for simplistic purposes of discussion 00:24:56 a perfectly spherical 0-ac set of monsters 00:26:05 in early game that's pretty accurate 00:26:13 yeah 00:26:21 i highly recommend playing with old spiny 1 on a xl2 ds 00:26:30 almost every monster is ignorable, even adders 00:26:37 as minmay noted: better than demonic guardian? 00:26:55 i dont get it 00:27:14 an early demonic guardian mut will also wreck shit real good 00:29:20 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:29:41 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-328-g3707654 (34) 00:29:55 those two are maybe the top two early muts, unless you count robust 00:30:04 most poweful muts to pick up early 00:30:43 -!- Goblin1989 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:32:16 getting robust early is pretty damn hard 00:32:27 -!- debo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:32:40 but i was actually just trying to nudge people towards removing demonic guardian :P 00:32:45 since it's tier 3? 00:32:47 haha 00:33:39 yes, you don't get tier 3 muts at xl2 generally 00:33:42 what's wrong with demonic guardian, specifically 00:33:52 allies 00:33:55 like if you make all the other t2 muts as broken as demonic guardian i guess that sorta works too 00:34:01 1. it makes allies 00:34:03 2. it makes allies 00:34:06 3. 00:34:10 ??demonic guardian[$ 00:34:10 demonic guardian[4/4]: !lg minmay dswr 15 -tv:T42300 00:34:14 !lg minmay dswr 15 -tv:T42300 00:34:20 !lg minmay dswr 15 -tv:T42300 00:34:21 15. minmay, XL27 DsWr, T:72415 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:34:50 also it is *ridiculously* overpowered early, far more than any other t2 mut or permutation of spiny 00:34:54 that can be #4 00:35:08 it's not as bad as those 3 points so i dont put it in the list 00:35:37 haha 00:36:22 hrm, do you die in this 00:36:26 no 00:36:28 pity 00:36:38 i wouldn't die in this situation unless i wanted to, which i kinda did but i still didn't 00:39:08 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 00:39:09 The build passed. (master - 865b46e #5631 : gammafunk): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/133540558 00:39:09 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 00:40:39 Yeah I don't really like ds muts, so I try to stay out of it, but it's pretty hard to balance "infinite free allies" 00:41:29 I noticed in my current game, which has the guardian, it will just start spamming the creation of these demons and I'm not sure why 00:41:41 like I'll start fighting something and it's just making 3 after 3 00:41:58 hey gammafunk 00:42:00 other times I'm not getting many 00:42:04 you should do some brainstorming for dr colours 00:42:06 dr reform 00:42:09 reform? 00:42:10 what if demonic guardian only triggers on taking damage, and the demon only targets the monster that hit you, and only lasts for a few turns 00:42:16 weren't you talking about changing dr colours the other day 00:42:25 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:42:28 gammafunk: it uses tension, the best mechanic 00:42:33 ah yeah 00:42:35 that would do it 00:42:43 wait, did you actually not know it uses tension 00:42:57 you know I think I did but sort of in the "back of my mind" sort of way 00:43:09 so let's prettend I sure as hell knew that shit for real 00:43:13 *pretend 00:43:48 PleasingFungus: I don't think the colors are really in a super bad place, but it's not easy for me to think of how to make them similar wrt power level 00:44:23 I guess it's maybe not rocket science, but I imagine you'd need to nerf some top-tier ones a bit, buff some of the weaker ones like yellow 00:44:27 nicolae-: there are already 2 reprisal damage ds mutations, but what if demonic guardian worked by giving you AC/resists when you get hit hard 00:44:43 not EV because pbp does that already 00:45:07 like a dude hits you with a big club and hell sentinel armour appears on you 00:45:07 is the joke that "demonic guardian" means the demon that is being guarded is you? 00:45:23 technically that's the case with existing demonic guardian... 00:45:27 well, it doesn't need to be called "demonic guardian" 00:45:40 demonspawnic guardian 00:45:49 except it doesn't include hell sentinels, and it triggers before you get hit because it uses tension 00:46:04 minmay: like qaz? 00:46:23 gammafunk: yeah i figured you wouldn't want a huge revamp, but you like dr and care about them so i figured you'd have some ideas 00:46:27 oh, right, qazlal exists 00:46:29 and it seems like a fun project 00:46:32 minmay: that's not a veto! 00:46:52 don't think it's necessarily too much of an overlap 00:46:59 seems fun if you're into touhou like dynast is 00:47:05 he draws dragons too 00:47:42 haha 00:47:56 https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:species:draconian#Draconian_Variety_Improvement 00:48:00 ok, what if demonic guardian is a set of orbs of destruction that orbit around your character 00:48:14 minmay: are you just trolling yourself at this point 00:48:15 damn, yes, can we implement Life Force 00:48:15 so like you walk next to a monster and the orbs hit it 00:48:33 or a monster makes an iood and it collides with one of your orbs and makes an explosion 00:48:39 although the speed boost can't really kill you like it does in that game 00:48:46 (the orbs slowly regenerate after being destroyed of course) 00:48:56 of course 00:49:02 PleasingFungus: i just want to get rid of demonic guardian sooo bad 00:49:06 this would be a good castlevania ability 00:49:14 no you get hit and lose your guardians, and have to go chase them down, just like in Life Force 00:49:25 i never played that 00:49:32 have to be ready to fight the sphinx head boss 00:50:20 I hear a lot of complaints about mottled and some about white/yellow being weak 00:50:35 mottled is actually strong and I guess white/yellow are kind of weak 00:50:46 all right, here's my fix for demonic guardian. it summons an imp or whatever when you get hit, but instead of fighting, the imp just comments on the situation and unsummons 00:51:02 that's more like... demonic hype man 00:51:04 so like you get hit by a crystal spear or whatever and a white imp appears and says "toasty" then leaves 00:51:07 is white really weak 00:51:20 white is good because it doesn't get slowed 00:51:32 oh yeah that's a good one I forgot about 00:51:36 the breath isn't great I guess 00:51:40 breath weapon is total ass but that applies to half of the breath weapons anyway 00:51:58 breath weapons are overrated 00:52:06 remember when you got breath weapons as random muts all the time? 00:52:11 compared to what though? 00:52:22 don't say compared to the apts, please... 00:53:04 demonic guardian replacement idea: something like chain lightning on powerful hits. 00:53:09 gammafunk, ass compared to the other things you could do with that turn, like make a real ranged attack 00:53:28 sure, I mean compared to the other things a color gives you though 00:53:45 but it's a fair point that giving a near useless thing isn't great 00:54:08 dr colours don't really give you much in general...a near useless resistance, a likely near useless breath weapon, some near useless aptitude changes 00:54:36 the entire reason white is good is that its resistance is actually useful, if only because it stops the slowing 00:54:50 yeah I'd really forgotten about the slow/freezing thing 00:55:24 nicolae-, I don't personally think there's room for 3 ds mutations based on reprisal damage 00:55:24 I guess if you wanted a revamp, you'd have to make a systematic change to them so that relatively useless things like +1 apt and "oh a resist" and "breath no-op" didn't happen 00:55:24 fire drac breath is nice these days 00:55:33 if passive freeze were replaced with ozocubu's refrigeration when you get hit, that would be cool 00:55:41 fire drac breath has always been really good 00:55:45 red is excellent because of the breath, yeah 00:55:46 argh, right, no reprisal damage 00:55:59 gammafunk, it wasn't especially good before it had the flame cloud 00:56:03 i'd be fine with pruning player drac colours if we feel like some of them are not that exciting. player/monster symmetry is already broken and was overrated anyway 00:56:10 not that any other breath weapons were good at that time 00:56:15 oh I wasn't aware it lacked that at one point 00:56:52 nicolae-: one of passive freeze or spiny should probably be removed anyway, they're so similar 00:56:57 demonic countenance. after getting hit/if you have low HP, enemies standing near you will falter under your terrible hell gaze if they try to attack. 00:57:09 I like Dr more in general than Ds because the mutations they get are much less a Hot Mess and the tradeoff they make you go through is cool 00:57:13 judging by this channel for the last couple days maybe it should be spiny so you can stop worrying so much about it :P 00:57:56 a skill you don't use gets a -2 apt, what a horrible tradeoff 00:58:20 nicolae-: mmm, and you could reuse warding code! 00:58:24 gammafunk: the tradeoff? 00:58:37 no body armour but innate ac and more hp 00:58:48 minmay: i was thinking similar to antimagic but yeah that does have more in common with warding 00:58:59 the dr body armour thing isn't really a tradeoff, it's "you get no body armour, instead you get the benefits of body armour for free" 00:59:26 light armour 00:59:48 and no resist or fun art stuff ofc 00:59:57 yeah I like heavy armour 01:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:09 so for me it's a tradeoff 01:00:43 it's true you lose very little by that restriction if you're casting a ton of spells since you're not wearing heavy armour then 01:00:47 demonic gaze: all monsters in your los slowly melt (passive refrigeration effect but with fire) 01:01:35 !lg devteamnp recentish crace=dr|ds s=crace% 01:01:37 315 games for devteamnp (recentish crace=dr|ds): 235x Demonspawn (74.60%), 80x Draconian (25.40%) 01:01:51 !lg devteamnp recentish crace=ds s=name% 01:01:52 235 games for devteamnp (recentish crace=ds): 132x neil (56.17%), 32x dpeg (13.62%), 24x Lasty (10.21%), 11x reaver (4.68%), 10x PleasingFungus (4.26%), 8x MarvinPA (3.40%), 6x felirx (2.55%), 6x Medar (2.55%), 5x amalloy (2.13%), gammafunk (0.43%) 01:02:00 !lg devteamnp recentish crace=dr s=name% 01:02:01 80 games for devteamnp (recentish crace=dr): 29x Lasty (36.25%), 23x neil (28.75%), 8x amalloy (10.00%), 4x MarvinPA (5.00%), 4x ontoclasm (5.00%), 4x Medar (5.00%), 3x reaver (3.75%), 2x gammafunk (2.50%), dpeg (1.25%), elliptic (1.25%), bh (1.25%) 01:02:04 !lg . s=crace% 01:02:04 3915 games for minmay: 1706x Mummy (43.58%), 586x Octopode (14.97%), 362x Demigod (9.25%), 333x Demonspawn (8.51%), 151x Naga (3.86%), 127x Kobold (3.24%), 109x Deep Elf (2.78%), 88x Tengu (2.25%), 67x Merfolk (1.71%), 63x High Elf (1.61%), 53x Minotaur (1.35%), 41x Spriggan (1.05%), 30x Troll (0.77%), 28x Ogre (0.72%), 23x Mountain Dwarf (0.59%), 22x Human (0.56%), 21x Hill Orc (0.54%), 18x Vampi... 01:02:29 you liking demonspawn confuses me 01:02:34 startscumming destroyed my mummy ratio 01:02:45 gammafunk: my Ds numbers are inflated because I quit every time I get demonic guardian 01:02:49 lol 01:02:56 that's not a joke 01:03:03 !lg minmay s=crace% !boring 01:03:03 3371 games for minmay (!boring): 1497x Mummy (44.41%), 396x Octopode (11.75%), 322x Demigod (9.55%), 277x Demonspawn (8.22%), 144x Naga (4.27%), 119x Kobold (3.53%), 107x Deep Elf (3.17%), 85x Tengu (2.52%), 65x Merfolk (1.93%), 60x High Elf (1.78%), 51x Minotaur (1.51%), 34x Spriggan (1.01%), 29x Troll (0.86%), 28x Ogre (0.83%), 23x Mountain Dwarf (0.68%), 18x Vampire (0.53%), 18x Hill Orc (0.53%... 01:03:11 they're still up there! 01:03:20 !lg minmay s=crace% !boring recentish 01:03:20 346 games for minmay (!boring recentish): 292x Octopode (84.39%), 20x Demonspawn (5.78%), 20x Mummy (5.78%), 6x Troll (1.73%), 3x Demigod (0.87%), 3x Tengu (0.87%), Deep Elf (0.29%), Minotaur (0.29%) 01:04:17 I mostly suicide when I startscum instead of quitting 01:04:23 so !boring doesn't work well 01:04:29 PleasingFungus: christ, spectate koboldina's game to see what she's named her ancestor 01:04:33 this has to stop 01:04:51 anyway, what's not to like about demonic guardianless Ds, i get flat apts, higher piety gain, and free melee damage 01:05:12 &watch koboldina 01:05:13 http://crawl.berotato.org:8080/#watch-koboldina 01:05:50 PleasingFungus has introduced in-game promotions 01:06:10 can player names have stuff like / in them 01:06:24 lmao 01:06:24 i mean, i've inscribed my weapon with stuff before so it always shows up on the screen 01:06:38 though it's always been something like {remove felids} or {vagina} rather than an advertisement 01:06:59 this isn't a new issue 01:07:22 quiver a fruit and you get like 30 characters in 80x24 01:10:19 demonic guardian replacement: demonic advertisement: a flashing sign saying EAT AT JOE'S grows out of your head and makes it so monsters are always distracted, for easy stabs 01:13:32 !gamesby dickylongcocking 01:13:32 dickylongcocking has played 3654 games, between 2014-12-30 01:49:33 and 2016-05-28 03:05:03, won 9 (0.2%), high score 14208409, total score 74493096, total turns 16567294, play-time/day 1:19:55, total time 28d+15:20:56. 01:13:43 good winrate 01:13:46 thats probably a real website 01:13:48 dot com 01:14:04 you can add .com to a lot of things and get a real website 01:14:05 these days 01:15:39 how do ds get higher piety gain? 01:15:42 ??demonspawn 01:15:43 demonspawn[1/4]: A race that is pretty average, but gets 5 semi-random good mutations. Has a 1/10 chance of being {monstrous}. Demonspawn mutations are irrevocable and unalterable, and drawn from a special list (see ds mutation rules). 01:15:58 ??demonspawn[2 01:15:58 ds mutation rules[1/5]: Assuming you aren't monstrous, you get five facets, each consisting of three mutations (which usually just stack together). You will get one scales-type facet, one body-slot facet, two tier 2 facets, and one tier 3 facet. 01:15:58 ??demonspawn[3 01:15:58 demonspawn[3/4]: Demonspawn enemies live in Pan. There are five bases of mutation clumpings and god-based classes, akin to draconians. Monstrous Ds have auxes and high health, gelid Ds have rC++ and 10 ac until hit with fire once, infernal Ds have rF++ and af_fire, putrid Ds heal from any ally deaths in LOS, torturous Ds have spines, augmentation, PbP. 01:16:04 I know they have +3 invo 01:16:07 I know they have +3 inv4 01:16:10 dammit 01:16:13 ??demonspawn[4 01:16:13 demonspawn[4/4]: Classes include {warmonger}, {blood saint}, {chaos champion}, {black sun}, and {corrupter}, on top of said bases (and all but blood saints are priests). Base demonspawn are fodder by pan time, bases and classes each have chances for themed/mixed bands, singular placements in pan lord vaults, and cut into neqoxec/smoke demon pan spawns. 01:16:24 They do. 01:16:32 they do what? 01:16:42 They do have 3 Invo. 01:16:48 well, yes 01:17:00 hence I said I know they have it 01:17:00 +3 invo, in fact. 01:17:10 my question is how do they get higher piety gain 01:18:35 Wow that advertisement. 01:19:03 That's good stuff. 01:19:22 v powerful 01:19:32 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-328-g3707654 (34) 01:19:51 gammafunk: higher Piety Efficiency through needing to use their piety-consuming abilities less often, due to higher power per use 01:19:53 think about it... 01:20:14 that's...too....cerebral! 01:20:29 use ur giant orange brain 01:20:40 see now that would rule as a Ds mutation 01:20:46 you have a giant-ass panlord orange brain 01:21:06 and maybe you can also get the panlord bikini+heels 01:22:12 not the panlord manhammock 01:22:38 ontoclasm: please no 01:23:16 -!- mibe has quit [Client Quit] 01:23:37 It has the head of a fly, a large distended body, and a tiny red Speedo. 01:24:13 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 01:24:14 The build passed. (master - 3707654 #5632 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/133540687 01:24:14 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 01:24:34 03chequers02 {PleasingFungus} 07* 0.19-a0-329-gb0f541b: Prevent flight-expiry caused drowning/lava-death. 10(28 hours ago, 5 files, 51+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b0f541b5c617 01:25:27 gammafunk: be sure to thank denzi for "succubus panlord" tiles 01:25:57 those pan lord tiles are pretty good 01:26:03 PleasingFungus: why did you keep the old force mores? 01:26:13 i didn't remove drowning/lava death 01:26:20 ah 01:26:33 there was something else i changed too 01:26:36 removed vertigo 01:27:03 and erased a prop in a case where you set it to false 01:27:08 makes sense 01:27:46 if someone else wants to re-add the vertigo thing, that's fine. i don't think it's necessary but it's not something i have super strong opinions on 01:28:36 you have a giant-ass panlord orange brain | i think i suggested that as a ds body slot mutation ages ago 01:30:30 nicolae-: what would it do 01:31:01 so is there any way left to drown 01:31:20 (I guess deliberately cancelling flight?) 01:32:15 surely there's a special case with beogh that hasn't been caught yet? 01:32:15 ugh. it was just an int bonus and sinv at level 3. 01:32:20 doctordoom (L16 DECj) ASSERT(prop_name) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 3070 failed. (Lair:4) 01:32:32 or maybe there's a rare enemy that shoots cancellation at you 01:32:45 doctordoom (L16 DECj) ASSERT(prop_name) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 3070 failed. (Lair:4) 01:32:55 doctordoom (L16 DECj) ASSERT(prop_name) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 3070 failed. (Lair:4) 01:33:03 here: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:species:demonspawn_brainstorming&s[]=demonspawn#yet_more_suggestions_nicolae i'm not sure they're that exciting, in retrospect, but i did format them nice. 01:33:05 doctordoom (L16 DECj) ASSERT(prop_name) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 3070 failed. (Lair:4) 01:33:20 doctordoom (L16 DECj) ASSERT(prop_name) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 3070 failed. (Lair:4) 01:33:20 gammafunk: Firefox can't find the server at www.sexyelfdreams.com. 01:34:08 !crashlog doctordoom 01:34:09 29. doctordoom, XL16 DECj, T:27684 (milestone): https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/doctordoom/crash-doctordoom-20160528-053306.txt 01:34:13 doctordoom (L16 DECj) ASSERT(prop_name) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 3070 failed. (Lair:4) 01:34:24 you can add .tumblr.com to that though, which is close 01:34:38 hrm, elemental evoker crash 01:35:19 deliberately cancelling flight above deep water / lava should invoke emergency flight 01:35:46 lol @ the brain ds mut 01:36:00 zxc: as in, you should be able to? 01:36:21 PleasingFungus: if you're able to cancel flight where it would kill you, then it shouldn't kill you is what I'm saying 01:36:23 maybe if we gave a warning, i guess 01:36:30 PleasingFungus: i think i was trying to think of something besides "telepathy" since that would be overlapping with antenna 01:36:41 it can always happen by accident and if someone actually wants to kill themselves they can ctrl-q 01:36:47 sanguine armour is cute 01:36:59 very blue tearstone ring 01:37:08 do we have any mechanics that increase in power with low hp at present? 01:37:14 the danger mario zone 01:37:17 as everyone knows, tears are most beautiful near death 01:37:29 PleasingFungus: augmentation used to 01:37:30 amulet of harm is not too far from that 01:37:33 PleasingFungus: augm-- yes 01:37:34 but it was reversed 01:38:18 (however, the reason for that reversal doesn't apply to sanguine armor) 01:38:55 -!- Laptop_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:39:16 yeah 01:39:25 stone hands seems pointless 01:39:34 it's claws, but 01:39:39 [eol] 01:39:39 PleasingFungus: yeah, i think i was trying to think of more varieties of body slot mutations 01:39:50 what are evil magic spells 01:40:09 i think there is, or at least was, an evil flag for some magic spells 01:40:11 evil or unholy 01:40:14 necromancy, demon summoning, etc 01:40:24 good gods hate them 01:40:29 one trick 01:40:33 ^^^ 01:42:18 i had one, i don't think i posted it on that page, but it was like... your demonic ancestry is from a powerful lord of hell, so other demons are afraid to hurt you because they don't want to piss off your mom/dad/whoever, so they flinch/flee/go neutral/go allied (many possible outcomes) instead of attacking you 01:42:29 If I throw food, but I have slaying bonuses, does the slaying bonus apply to the thrown food? 01:42:54 doubt it 01:42:56 For example with gloves of archery, will my thrown bread be like a +3 bread? 01:43:21 Mmm. 01:43:31 -!- OrphineM has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:43:59 historically, has anyone won using nothing but bread as a weapon (and little or no use of kill spells?) 01:44:06 you can't these days 01:44:10 would have to be a while ago 01:44:10 or other snacks 01:44:23 with boots of the assassin I expect? 01:44:37 iirc at some point non-weapon weapons got nerfed 01:50:04 Tossi (L17 VSMo) ASSERT(hepliaklqana_ancestor() == MID_NOBODY) in 'mon-death.cc' at line 2631 failed. (Swamp:3) 01:50:23 !crash tossi 01:50:23 hrm 01:50:23 20. Tossi, XL17 VSMo, T:26932 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Tossi/crash-Tossi-20160528-055002.txt 01:50:35 jesus christ 01:50:35 -!- neizenel has joined ##crawl-dev 01:50:38 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 01:50:42 haha 01:50:44 fucking mara 01:51:41 -!- DIonized has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:51:46 -!- DIonized_ is now known as DIonized 01:51:56 what happened 01:54:25 -!- nikheizen has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:54:39 apparently killing an ancestor created by mara's Phantom Mirror spell causes an assertion to trigger 01:54:41 and crashes the game 01:55:06 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-329-gb0f541b 01:55:31 -!- neizenel is now known as nikheizen 01:55:32 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:55:46 owned 01:57:19 ??batlemage 01:57:20 batlemage ~ battlemage[1/7]: BATTLEMAGE 01:57:23 dammit 01:57:25 ??ancestor 01:57:25 ancestor[1/6]: A permanent companion granted by {Hepliaklqana}. Scales with the player's XL. Can be specialized into one of three types: Knight ([3]), Battlemage ([4]), or Hexer ([5]). 01:57:28 ??ancestor[4 01:57:29 ancestor[4/6]: Battlemage: conjurer companion. Starts with a quarterstaff, throw frost, and stone arrow. HD 10: Choose to replace throw frost with either Iceblast or Bolt of Magma. HD 14: lajatang of freezing. HD 18: stone arrow -> crystal spear. 01:57:50 woah, just laj of freezing 01:58:30 ??ancestor[3 01:58:30 ancestor[3/6]: Knight: melee companion. Starts with a longsword, a shield, and bonus AC; 5 + HD/2. HD 10: Choose a broad axe or demon trident, both flaming. HD 14: shield becomes a large shield of reflect. HD 18: Weapon ego changes to speed. 01:58:42 ??ancestor[5 01:58:42 ancestor[5/6]: Hexer: support companion. Starts with a dagger, Slow, and Confuse. HD 10: Choose to replace Slow with either Metabolic Englaciation or Paralyse. HD 14: Confuse -> Mass Confusion. HD 18: antimagic quickblade. 01:59:01 AM QB is pretty good 01:59:03 gammafunk: ? 01:59:18 well the specificness of that is kind of surprising, I guess 01:59:23 I'd have expected some randomization 01:59:48 maybe that's so you know what to expect 01:59:52 it's something that i've experimented with 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:05 yeah there are different approaches you could make I'm sure 02:03:04 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:04:25 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:06:44 -!- FireSight has quit [] 02:09:20 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-329-gb0f541b (34) 02:11:00 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:12:10 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:16:04 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 02:22:18 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:29:41 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 46.0.1/20160502172042]] 02:33:10 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:43:25 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:48:40 -!- ZiBuDo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:49:04 -!- ZiBuDo has joined ##crawl-dev 02:53:34 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-329-gb0f541b 02:54:34 2016-05-28 06:50:21,482 INFO: #49 P25 ERR: ASSERT(prop_name) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 3070 failed. 02:54:37 2016-05-28 06:50:21,483 INFO: #49 P25 ERR: ASSERT(prop_name) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 3070 failed. 02:55:10 http://dpaste.com/2P11A7Z 02:55:11 crashlog 02:58:56 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:58:57 -!- ZiBuDo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:59:44 -!- ZiBuDo has joined ##crawl-dev 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:13 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:02:30 https://crawl.project357.org/morgue/Cuckatoo/crash-Cuckatoo-20160528-065342.txt better link 03:03:02 ah 03:03:11 it crashes on load if you have a stone of tremors in your inventory with pakellas 03:03:15 since marvin removed them 03:03:25 not 100% sure on that 03:03:38 !tell marvinpa is this due to stone of tremors? https://crawl.project357.org/morgue/Cuckatoo/crash-Cuckatoo-20160528-065342.txt 03:03:39 chequers: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 03:04:33 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:05:41 when did deep dwarf ghosts start regenerating 03:09:14 %git b713c8 03:09:14 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.17-a0-1183-gb713c88: Let deep dwarf player ghosts regenerate normally 10(12 months ago, 2 files, 0+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b713c881870a 03:13:08 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:13:15 is there a max to the drain you get under emergency flight? or is it basically a death sentence if you lose flight many spaces from land? 03:13:32 (obviously, that's an edge case of an edge case) 03:14:17 -!- JimmahDean has quit [] 03:14:22 just seemed like if there's a chance you could get super-drained, might as well just kill the player :P 03:19:32 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 03:19:43 drain is the wd-40 of crawl mechanics 03:19:58 Lom Lobon: now capable of draining the player to death 03:22:56 for some reason, I want to play a version where "Drain" is changed to "Bored" 03:23:34 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-329-gb0f541b (34) 03:23:53 -!- ZiBuDo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:40:07 -!- WalrusKing_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:42:34 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 03:54:59 @??spark wasp 03:54:59 spark wasp (11y) | Spd: 15 | HD: 12 | HP: 57-77 | AC/EV: 9/14 | Dam: 3311(elec:12-17) | fly | Res: 06magic(40), 11elec+++ | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 1219 | Sp: blinkbolt (2d18) [06!sil] | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 03:55:34 can these get their hd buffed so that random lair stuff doesn't turn into spark wasps 03:55:45 when players/xom polymorph them 03:56:25 tyvek (L25 GrFi) ASSERT(prop_name) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 3070 failed. (Depths:1) 03:56:47 tyvek (L25 GrFi) ASSERT(prop_name) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 3070 failed. (Depths:1) 03:57:09 !learn add reserved_clan_names Purple Drain by Prince Ribbit and The Evolution [gammafunk (WIP)] 03:57:10 reserved clan names[19/19]: Purple Drain by Prince Ribbit and The Evolution [gammafunk (WIP)] 03:57:14 tyvek (L25 GrFi) ASSERT(prop_name) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 3070 failed. (Depths:1) 03:57:34 tyvek (L25 GrFi) ASSERT(prop_name) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 3070 failed. (Depths:1) 03:57:56 ??devolution 03:57:56 devolution ~ evolution[1/4]: See {evolution[2]} for the Fedhas ability or {evolution mutation} for the mutation. 03:58:05 oh it was degeneration 03:58:20 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:59:15 tyvek (L25 GrFi) ASSERT(prop_name) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 3070 failed. (Depths:1) 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:27 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:00:42 -!- mibert has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:01:10 tyvek (L25 GrFi) ASSERT(prop_name) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 3070 failed. (Depths:1) 04:04:04 Crash when attempting to enter Depths 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10453 by tyvek 04:05:38 tyvek (L25 GrFi) ASSERT(prop_name) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 3070 failed. 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The end goal of this channel is "fuck you, every dev who came before me" 05:12:10 i think i did technically still have 0.2 fighting 05:12:15 hahaha 05:12:53 make sure lasty knows how much i hate ru too 05:13:15 even if odds are i'll see him before you do and i left him a tell! 05:22:16 03|amethyst02 07* 0.19-a0-330-g034cfd4: Don't crash on removed stones of tremors in tiles (#10453) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/034cfd4ba377 05:22:33 <|amethyst> !versions 05:22:39 <|amethyst> &versions 05:22:47 CAO: 0.19-a0-311-g229bcbb, CBRO: 0.19-a0-329-gb0f541b, CDO: 0.19-a0-293-gca33af5, CPO: 0.19-a0-329-gb0f541b, CSZO: none, CUE: 0.19-a0-320-gcfc3c9c, CWZ: 0.19-a0-252-g247cc30, CXC: 0.19-a0-328-g3707654, LLD: 0.19-a0-287-g02ea680 05:22:56 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:27:09 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:29:49 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:32:49 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:34:56 -!- Guest42690 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:35:49 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-330-g034cfd4 (34) 05:36:24 <|amethyst> ??shadow form 05:36:24 shadow form[1/4]: Dithmenos' 5* ability - for some skill drain, MP, and piety, you turn invisible for the duration (without glow), gain torment immunity, rRot, rN+++, rPois+++, immunity to hostile enchantments, and 50% damage reduction, but you also deal only 50% melee damage and get two spell anti-enhancer levels. 05:37:55 <|amethyst> badlearndb 05:38:35 <|amethyst> !learn edit shadow_form[1] s/melee damage/attack damage/ 05:38:36 shadow form[1/4]: Dithmenos' 5* ability - for some skill drain, MP, and piety, you turn invisible for the duration (without glow), gain torment immunity, rRot, rN+++, rPois+++, immunity to hostile enchantments, and 50% damage reduction, but you also deal only 50% attack damage and get two spell anti-enhancer levels. 05:40:50 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 05:41:06 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:43:32 -!- testid223 has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 05:44:01 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:45:48 -!- yogidabear has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:54:27 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest29522 05:58:55 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-330-g034cfd4 (34) 06:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:04:19 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:09:18 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-330-g034cfd4 (34) 06:11:04 -!- glaas has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:11:30 -!- edsrzf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:16:11 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:18:10 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:19:14 -!- kuniqs has quit [Client Quit] 06:23:41 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:25:16 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:34:37 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:42:14 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 06:52:21 -!- Sprort has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:58:42 -!- LIX is now known as Guest87820 06:59:40 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:00:05 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:01:33 -!- zero_one has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:11:52 -!- Guest29522 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:15:41 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:18:29 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:20:16 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:46:22 spectre hell serpent 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10454 by KSK 07:46:33 -!- techieAgnostic has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4-dev] 07:57:20 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 07:57:21 -!- namelastname112 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:57:36 did spire-stepping got removed 07:59:00