00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:15 is cbro lagging? 00:00:28 ^vps 00:00:29 CBRO disk usage=66% | RAM usage=38% | uptime/CPU= 00:00:28 up 554 days, 9:19, 4 users, load average: 1.90, 1.39, 1.23 00:00:48 probably but doesn't look horrendous 00:01:26 Stable (0.18) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18.1-8-gdd0e5ea 00:04:32 @??mad acolyte of lugonu 00:04:32 mad acolyte of Lugonu (09p) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 55-74 | AC/EV: 3/13 | Dam: 6 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest, evil, unholy, 07vault | Res: 06magic(60) | Vul: 08holy, 11silver | XP: 1296 | Sp: smiting (7-17) [11!AM], blink other [11!AM], invisibility [11!AM], malign gateway [11!AM], blink [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:13:54 huh 00:14:02 I did not realize slime creatures could go berserk. 00:14:16 i think that's relatively recent 00:14:19 an mpa change 00:14:21 i i r c 00:17:59 * geekosaur glances at gretell output, wonders if there is any other kind of Lugonu acolyte :p 00:18:15 glad acolyte of lugonu 00:18:33 desperate, maybe 00:18:35 -!- tupper has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:18:58 hrm, crashes for &D? 00:20:21 ? 00:20:46 ASSERT(mons_is_tentacle_or_tentacle_segment(mon.type)) in 'tilepick.cc' at line 606 failed. 00:22:00 yeah, reliable crash for having any tentacle arounds and then using &D 00:22:25 hm 00:22:32 that's probably my fault, somehow 00:23:19 dowsing makes tentacles question mark tiles 00:23:44 hrm, what kind of tentacles were you using? 00:23:48 eldritch 00:23:58 starspawns don't cause an &D crash, for me 00:24:22 ah, but eldritches do 00:24:24 interesting. 00:25:13 I like how dowsing with kraken tentacles makes every tentacle tile a kraken head. 00:26:11 do oof show up as something weird? 00:26:20 probably as oof 00:26:30 I think silver stars used to show up as oof, or the reverse, I forget 00:26:57 probably the latter, since dowsing went by glyph 00:27:04 very, very odd 00:27:15 I remember tentacles used to appear under dowsing as oof segments and worm heads 00:27:19 nothing at all odd about glyphs, PleasingFungus 00:27:24 they're the natural way of things 00:27:38 not quite what i meant... 00:29:48 hmm, acolytes + liches doesn't seem particularly exciting. maybe I should combine the vault with sirens instead? 00:35:13 (merfolk avatar abyssal rune vault so well regarded as is) 00:40:38 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:42:14 -!- NeremWorld has joined ##crawl-dev 00:42:16 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:44:04 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:48:08 ...hahaha, the white ghost tile appears for dowsing drowned souls 00:52:22 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:52:55 questionable genus choices 00:53:03 probably should be MONS_WRAITH 00:53:25 enh, i guess phantoms etc are also genus MONS_GHOST 00:53:40 maybe they should be genus MONS_PHANTOM? 00:53:47 hrm 00:54:04 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:54:07 that tile isn't really supposed to appear for anything but removed monsters, that's all... 00:55:39 it is a slight style shift, yes 00:55:57 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:57:35 -!- Kat_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:57:37 man, these acolytes really should have bend space 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:57 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 01:01:52 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:04:01 hmm. I wonder if all abyss rune vaults should use floor_crystal_tiles so they're always recognizable as abyss rune vaults? 01:06:36 including beevault? 01:07:10 -!- jefus- has joined ##crawl-dev 01:08:24 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:08:44 my first reaction is to like that idea, regret-index. rip spoilers 01:09:39 Pre-release branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18.1-8-gdd0e5ea (34) 01:09:45 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-161-gf5426c9: Don't use MONS_GHOST as a genus monster 10(49 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f5426c95597d 01:09:50 sure, agreed 01:11:00 -!- jeefus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:12:13 man, I have no idea which vault should be combined into abyssbeevault 01:12:34 do you need to combine *every* vault? 01:13:03 well, no. 01:13:27 the alternative to combination is actually making there be something difficult in the vault, though, and, uh, bees, so 01:13:43 lightli, I've gotten other cbro lagging reports, but there's nothing I can do about it 01:13:43 combine all abyss vaults into one 01:13:49 ...oh, I have an idea. 01:13:49 the Abyss Vault 01:14:06 this is what you get for still referring to them as caustic bees, pf 01:14:07 I maxed out upgrading the server on day 1 of the tourney. and like gammafunk said, stats look good 01:14:14 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:14:45 I suspect it's something related to crawl itself + maybe some config setting on the server that I'm too dumb to know how to fix 01:16:35 lmao 01:16:46 would that make any sense outside the in-joke? 01:17:11 this asked about abyssal rune vaults 01:17:28 yes? 01:17:41 i wouldn't say that abyss vaults are all that 'random'. bee vault comes the closest 01:17:54 with the wretched stars 01:18:05 but in general it's quite easy to recognize the theme 01:18:08 "old forest" is also pretty weird without previous knowledge 01:18:36 the rakshasa is weird. 01:18:58 there should be _some_ branch spawns in every abyss rune vault! 01:19:08 what do you want, shapeshifter yaks 01:19:11 heh 01:19:36 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-161-gf5426c9 (34) 01:23:02 console abyss has random floor colours, right 01:23:05 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:23:22 or was that pan 01:24:19 right, pan. hmm. 01:25:58 -!- punpun has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:29:13 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:30:35 -!- JimmahDean has quit [] 01:31:10 ??unarmed combat 01:31:10 unarmed combat[1/3]: Fighting without a weapon. Base damage is 3 + UC skill (+2 per claws level (so +6 Tr, +2 Gh), +X for forms); delay 1.0 - UC/54.0; +2 to hit. 01:31:12 ??unarmed combat [2] 01:31:13 unarmed combat[2/3]: Base for forms: Normal/Hog 3, Spider 5 (venom), Bat 1, Vampire Bat 2 (vamp), Ice 12 (freezing), Blade 8 + (str + dex) / 3, Statue (6 + str / 3), Dragon 18 + str*2/3, Lich 5 (drain). Form base damage scales with skill, just like normal punches. 01:32:50 http://pastie.org/10846138 draffs 01:36:46 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:39:10 what do I do when the crawl ctrl+f won't work. hitting enter does nothing. I can type, and I see the stuff in the box, but enter doesn't register\ 01:39:26 I fumbled the keypress for ctrl+f somehow. I can't remember what I hit 01:39:33 but suddenly I was in the browser ctrl+f 01:40:06 but clicking the crawl ctrl+f won't reset it. hitting escape won't fix it. I'm pushing ctrl and alt and shift etc and nothing is resetting it 01:40:10 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:43:35 -!- shummie has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:44:20 johnstein: *f 01:46:28 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:46:33 does ozos work with transmutations 01:46:43 outside of ice form obviously 01:47:29 everything but statue form, iirc. 01:47:43 -!- Dracunos is now known as removeharm 01:47:44 even dragon? 01:48:02 yep 01:48:17 it was a big part of the discussion about ozo's changes 01:49:27 amalloy, ty. I'll try that next time. I just closed the browser down. fortunately I didn't have to wait for the process to die naturally 01:49:32 I can assume why it doesn't work with statue form at any rate :v 01:51:07 -!- removeharm is now known as Dracunos 01:51:08 ??dragon form 01:51:08 dragon form[1/3]: You're a dragon now! RAAAAWR! Breathe fire! Be tough (+50% hp) and strong! Gives +10 str, flight, rPois+ rFire++ rCold-, 34% GDR, 16 AC exactly, giant size (will nuke your EV). Base unarmed damage = (18 + str*(2/3) + unarmed_skill). Gives Claws 3 (works for offhand punch) and 2 additional auxiliary attacks, bite and tail-slap. 01:51:13 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:51:34 ice armour and rC-, mm 01:55:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:55:28 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-161-gf5426c9 02:00:01 ??phantom mirror[trog 02:00:02 I don't have a page labeled phantom mirror[trog in my learndb. 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:07 why won't trog let me use that? 02:00:13 PleasingFungus: where does the ?/t documentation live? should we add something to Stone about the extra damage reduction you get and/or EV penalties? 02:00:24 johnstein: what are you trying ot mirror? 02:00:28 i bet it has spells 02:00:29 "Trog forbids your reflecting this monster" 02:00:30 johnstein: i should probably remove this, but it's because - yeah 02:00:32 nikola 02:00:34 didn't know that 02:00:40 hm 02:00:44 it's relatively new and also lame 02:00:47 that's a bummer 02:00:48 yea 02:00:51 very much so 02:00:53 less than a year old 02:00:57 that was my nikola plan 02:01:02 I'm committed now 02:01:15 the nice thing about trog tho 02:01:15 is you can hit acacac 02:01:18 and then nikola will die 02:01:19 yea 02:01:36 welp, there's agnes 02:01:44 !source dat/descript/status.txt 02:01:45 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/status.txt 02:01:47 mirror her? i don't think she has spells 02:01:53 amalloy: ^ 02:02:12 !speedrune . snake 02:02:16 gammafunk's fastest snake rune retrieval: 596 turns 02:02:21 new snake pb, totally by accident 02:02:32 nice 02:02:46 teled "out of danger" in the vault, near the rune 02:02:59 I did mirror her 02:03:02 blink scroll, tele, and chug all the heal wounds.... 02:03:02 then lamp of fire 02:03:09 then a couple more bros 02:04:04 PleasingFungus: I memorized irradiate and I'm really loving it 02:04:19 oh, right, chaos spawn gurgles are inexplicably extremely loud 02:04:29 hm, time for some irradiate nerfs 02:04:32 because I can use it to train transmutations which will hopefully get me necromutation 02:04:34 regret-index: nope 02:04:46 10/10 "train transmutations for sif gift" spell 02:04:48 %git d3566c2e2134498632d16c64f59e898738a354cc 02:04:48 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-82-gd3566c2: Hush ugly things, slightly 10(7 days ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d3566c2e2134 02:04:52 regret-index: ^ 02:04:53 oh 02:05:07 also, someone should remind me where S_LOUD etc are actually used 02:05:16 they're very odd 02:05:26 do they still open doors like little jerks (as allies) 02:05:34 still loud enough to make the six liches instantly come out of the closets, though 02:05:36 i think allies haven't opened doors in a while 02:05:40 that's great 02:05:44 used to drive me nuts 02:05:47 03amalloy02 07* 0.19-a0-162-gb23b67e: More useful info about Stone status in ?/t 10(12 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b23b67e52a23 02:05:53 although that must cause trouble for path finding 02:05:53 back to you 02:06:06 wow, 16b6e649e4010581f had a great description 02:06:07 i forgot about that 02:06:14 gifts from past me to present me... 02:06:16 %git 16b6e649e4010581f 02:06:16 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-840-g16b6e64: Begin gutting join_religion() 10(5 months ago, 1 file, 212+ 184-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/16b6e649e401 02:06:41 someday i'm going to fix the monk message ordering bug that commit introduced 02:06:42 someday... 02:09:05 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-161-gf5426c9 (34) 02:10:09 nice lich double-cast on door-opening 02:11:30 -!- KillKatKill has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:12:17 %git ebe3faa6 02:12:17 07jpeg02 * 0.3-a0-850-gebe3faa: Implementing patch 1775415 (outsourcing monster speech) by zelgadis. Currently, shout.txt and speak.txt share in with the .des files in /dat. That should be changed, but I've no idea how to do this. 10(9 years ago, 16 files, 1480+ 2710-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ebe3faa64586 02:13:06 playing as a felid with Frail 2 is pretty exciting 02:13:19 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:14:04 haha 02:14:05 i imagine 02:14:16 also i really strongly suspect that the various 'volume level' shouts both do not and have never done anything 02:16:35 had to ditch irradiate for passwall 02:17:22 sad! 02:17:29 i never saw you use it... 02:17:37 yeah you did 02:17:44 you saw me training transmutations, right? 02:18:01 i just popped in like a minute ago 02:18:11 and then left it in the background while i looked at this weird shout stuff 02:18:14 so basically i saw nothing 02:18:22 gammafunk is claiming that the best feature of irradiate is that it's a tmut spell 02:18:50 I'm not actually claiming that, but in *this* particular game 02:18:56 heh 02:18:57 good 02:19:01 it is its only redeeming feature, yeah 02:19:01 that is exactly as it should be 02:19:11 lmao 02:19:29 I have a bad feeling about this 02:19:33 I'm going to die in elf:3 02:19:50 !gameinfo gammafunk 02:19:51 gammafunk the L14 DESu^Sif in Elf:1 (cbro console), T:16299, runes: 2 (serpentine, decaying), defenses: 12/17/5, stats: 8/26/15, >15 skills: Summonings 02:20:06 well now, before going down the stairs to elf:3 02:20:11 _n - a Grand Grimoire 02:20:41 sounds bad 02:21:01 I can probably skip...oh crap no blink 02:22:52 wow, this ten-year-old obscure wizmode command is completely busted and useless 02:22:56 who'd have guessed 02:23:04 ouch 02:23:10 impressive 02:23:11 good hp 02:25:56 PleasingFungus: you claimed GV5^ was a thing recently, but i don't think that works at all 02:26:03 something like that exists 02:26:15 it's not in the help for GV? 02:27:00 hm 02:27:04 i know i've used it 02:27:25 you can GV$ of course 02:27:38 but that's not the same 02:27:59 hrm 02:28:14 GV#^ does very strange things, but that's probably because i'm wizmoding 02:28:36 lol @ gammafunk 02:28:37 i mean, the help for GV^ says it goes to the entrance to the current branch 02:28:38 well that was a good lesson 02:28:46 hm, hm, hm 02:28:47 dang, i looked away for a second 02:28:49 I need to try elf on some more summoners 02:28:50 i could be a crazy person 02:28:55 !tv gammafunk 02:28:56 3787. gammafunk, XL15 DESu, T:17201 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 02:29:04 but the weird thing was getting flanked 02:29:19 would have been pretty ok save for that, but there were a lot of spawns around and I just went for the vault 02:29:27 next time just clear out surrounding area a bit 02:29:34 I did this with musu and it was very easy 02:29:49 but you can get spawns nearby so you want to clear them out before the vault 02:30:21 at that point even if I lived too few consumables left; I thought about just leaving after finding xxx, but I didn't have blink 02:30:57 like I could have teleported at any point but with all the heal gone, not really any point for trying to do vaults 02:31:18 probably just teleport sooner and hope for a decent landing in that situation, rather than fighting it out 02:31:43 no speedrun for t, will have to settle for the 6 wins 02:31:52 !lg www won s=name 02:31:53 14 games for www (won): 6x gammafunk, 6x amalloy, wheals, pleasingfungus 02:31:55 still got a day or two 02:32:00 gotta beat me 02:32:08 and this FeSu^Xom is headed for glory 02:32:26 I think the slackers need to do the beating of crawl 02:32:54 :< 02:32:55 cool how I got the fast snake rune, but it's a fake best, since just random tele/not die luck 02:32:57 i am a slacker 02:33:02 yes you are! 02:33:08 not a slacker in making tiles though <3 02:33:12 i splatted several muaes 02:33:15 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:33:45 i guess i should play like 02:33:49 a combo that isn't pure pain 02:33:57 wonder what I can see of elf:3, I think nothing since I never saw the vault 02:33:58 !lst . 02:33:59 3787. gammafunk, XL15 DESu, T:17201: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/gammafunk/morgue-gammafunk-20160521-062828.lst 02:34:28 amalloy: if I feel like doing another casual run tomorrow, I will, but I finished the challonge 02:34:42 !lg . won !experimental s=crace 02:34:43 57 games for gammafunk (won !experimental): 4x High Elf, 3x Draconian, 3x Kobold, 3x Octopode, 3x Spriggan, 3x Vine Stalker, 2x Tengu, 2x Gargoyle, 2x Merfolk, 2x Vampire, 2x Deep Elf, 2x Mummy, 2x Felid, 2x Demigod, 2x Halfling, 2x Ghoul, 2x Deep Dwarf, 2x Ogre, 2x Centaur, 2x Naga, 2x Hill Orc, 2x Troll, 2x Human, 2x Formicid, 2x Demonspawn 02:34:45 !lg . won !experimental s=cls 02:34:46 57 games for gammafunk (won !experimental): 3x Enchanter, 3x Monk, 3x Artificer, 3x Transmuter, 3x Conjurer, 3x Chaos Knight, 3x Ice Elementalist, 3x Death Knight, 2x Abyssal Knight, 2x Assassin, 2x Skald, 2x Warper, 2x Summoner, 2x Wizard, 2x Fire Elementalist, 2x Arcane Marksman, 2x Venom Mage, 2x Air Elementalist, 2x Wanderer, 2x Necromancer, 2x Earth Elementalist, 2x Hunter, 2x Gladiator, 2x F... 02:34:49 !lg . won !experimental s=god 02:34:50 57 games for gammafunk (won !experimental): 6x Sif Muna, 6x Vehumet, 3x Gozag, 2x, 2x Trog, 2x Lugonu, 2x Pakellas, 2x Nemelex Xobeh, 2x Beogh, 2x Kikubaaqudgha, 2x Fedhas, 2x Ru, 2x Dithmenos, 2x Jiyva, 2x Makhleb, 2x Cheibriados, 2x Elyvilon, 2x The Shining One, 2x Okawaru, 2x Xom, 2x Yredelemnul, 2x Ashenzari, 2x Zin, 2x Qazlal 02:35:10 gammafunk: what would you say is the easiest class to win a mu on 02:35:12 what challenge? double-greater player? 02:35:16 yeah 02:35:19 last win finished it 02:35:29 double-greater-...zealot? 02:35:34 what do you call winning all gods 02:36:03 ontoclasm: mages, IE Su in particular, but Ne Cj FE are good 02:36:09 probably depends on your experience 02:36:43 !apt mu 02:36:43 Mu: Fighting: 0, Short: -2, Long: -2, Axes: -2, Maces: -2, Polearms: -2, Staves: -2, Slings: -2, Bows: -2, Xbows: -2, Throw: -2*, Armour: -2, Dodge: -2, Stealth: -1, Shields: -2, UC: -2*, Splcast: -1, Conj: -2, Hexes: -1, Charms: -2, Summ: -2, Nec: 0, Tloc: -2, Tmut: -2, Fire: -2, Ice: -2, Air: -2, Earth: -2, Poison: -2, Inv: -1*, Evo: -2, Exp: -1, HP: 0, MP: 0 02:36:51 yeah they're flat aside from Necro 02:37:07 !lg . mu won s=cls 02:37:08 2 games for gammafunk (mu won): Ice Elementalist, Gladiator 02:37:22 only -1 hexes, clearly do mummy enchanter 02:37:56 man 02:38:03 a fire giant in the spriggan forest depth vaults 02:38:04 MuEn is very doable, that stealth apt is ruf 02:38:08 is amazing... 02:38:29 really ties the forest together does he not 02:38:37 more like the opposite 02:39:39 QUIZ: if a monster shouts and no player is around to hear it, does it make a noise? 02:39:53 hrm 02:39:58 @??deep elf high priest 02:39:58 deep elf high priest (09e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 11 | HP: 41-58 | AC/EV: 4/12 | Dam: 14 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest, evil, unholy, see invisible | Res: 06magic(80) | Vul: 08holy, 11silver | XP: 1038 | Sp: a.brilliance [11!AM], call down damnation (3d15) [11!AM], malign offering (2d17) [11!AM], smiting (7-17) [11!AM], twisted resurrection [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 02:40:06 @_@ 02:40:10 w-what if 02:40:16 the player is in tree form 02:40:24 how much hd increase does a. brilliance add? 02:40:29 that hellfire was nasty 02:40:32 (the fire giant just wandered in) 02:40:42 damnation, well known for scaling with hd 02:41:11 ontoclasm: doesn't matter :) 02:41:24 gammafunk: 5 02:41:25 @??deep elf high priest hd:27 02:41:25 brilliance does increase the chance of castaing iirc 02:41:26 deep elf high priest (09e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 27 | HP: 100-138 | AC/EV: 4/12 | Dam: 14 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest, evil, unholy, see invisible | Res: 06magic(80) | Vul: 08holy, 11silver | XP: 7262 | Sp: a.brilliance [11!AM], call down damnation (3d15) [11!AM], malign offering (2d31) [11!AM], smiting (7-17) [11!AM], twisted resurrection [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 02:41:32 hrm, it doesn't? 02:41:38 ??aura of brilliance 02:41:38 I don't have a page labeled aura_of_brilliance in my learndb. 02:41:40 doubt it's well known either way what it does 02:41:52 ??deep elf high priest 02:41:52 deep elf high priest[1/1]: drag0n the Anemomancer (L19 HEWz), worshipper of Nemelex Xobeh, killed by an exploding deep elf high priest on Vaults:2 (nicolae_vaults_triangles), with 229338 points after 78846 turns and 7:47:08. 02:41:54 "Grants nearby wizard allies of the priest the ability to cast spells more often (they get a reroll if they rolled higher than their total spell weight) with a 5 HD boost in their spell power. The boost lasts for a turn or two after the wizard leaves LOS of the priest (including if the priest is killed)." 02:42:00 from the commit 02:42:01 other fun facts: if a monster is muted, it can't quiver, bristle its fur in rage, etc. 02:42:07 ah 02:42:17 that learndb entry is very good 02:42:20 that's probably what it was 02:42:21 damnation is smite's bigger sibling 02:42:32 !learn add aura_of_brilliance "Grants nearby wizard allies of the priest the ability to cast spells more often (they get a reroll if they rolled higher than their total spell weight) with a 5 HD boost in their spell power. The boost lasts for a turn or two after the wizard leaves LOS of the priest (including if the priest is killed)." 02:42:32 aura of brilliance[1/1]: "Grants nearby wizard allies of the priest the ability to cast spells more often (they get a reroll if they rolled higher than their total spell weight) with a 5 HD boost in their spell power. The boost lasts for a turn or two after the wizard leaves LOS of the priest (including if the priest is killed)." 02:42:54 !learn edit aura_of_brilliance s/"//g 02:42:55 aura of brilliance[1/1]: Grants nearby wizard allies of the priest the ability to cast spells more often (they get a reroll if they rolled higher than their total spell weight) with a 5 HD boost in their spell power. The boost lasts for a turn or two after the wizard leaves LOS of the priest (including if the priest is killed). 02:43:04 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:43:55 too bad each of those uses of ?blink, I knew running out of blink would get me killed 02:43:58 although 02:44:00 !log 02:44:01 3787. gammafunk, XL15 DESu, T:17201: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/gammafunk/morgue-gammafunk-20160521-062828.txt 02:44:20 cblink probably not castable even with bill at 7tloc 02:44:40 maybe 12 but v:5 but then I train less transmut and it doesn't work 02:44:47 // (kraken should always cast their escape spell of inky). 02:44:49 worthless! 02:44:55 gammafunk: cblink is castable at 7tloc...if you have enough int 02:45:02 !log . dewz chei 02:45:03 1. amalloy, XL27 DEWz, T:114111: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/amalloy/morgue-amalloy-20151003-224728.txt 02:45:15 yeah but I don't think it would work, maybe 02:45:32 probably not with just 20-something, even with brill 02:45:34 something I hadn't though of until now; not much xp on v:1-4, but I could slow it down and get ?blink even 02:45:51 in retrospect spending more time on v:1-4 would have been much safer 02:50:15 -!- destrovel has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:53:30 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-162-gb23b67e 02:56:06 -!- PoisonMushroom has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:57:34 -!- koboldina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:59:19 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 03:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:05:14 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:09:02 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-162-gb23b67e (34) 03:23:38 quick question 03:23:41 no 03:23:53 do you have to kill every unique for rank 3 of that banner, or can you miss 1 or 2 03:24:14 (i.e. the ones that spawn basically never like Tiamat or Murray) 03:24:46 Stable (0.18) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18.1-8-gdd0e5ea 03:25:35 bad news, friend 03:25:42 rip 03:25:47 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:25:57 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-163-g52cd263: Add a helpful comment to special-case shouts 10(56 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/52cd2633ec7c 03:25:57 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-164-g5fdce5e: Add a few more warnings to wizmode shout-forcing 10(56 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5fdce5e7d365 03:25:57 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-165-g4a195e2: Refactor monster shouting 10(19 minutes ago, 7 files, 52+ 35-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4a195e281b7f 03:25:57 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-166-g8096714: Fix two obscure shout bugs 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/80967140a895 03:26:04 (How often does Tiamat spawn anyways?) 03:26:23 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 46.0.1/20160502172042]] 03:32:38 how do you make it so you're given a warning before doing melee with something? 03:33:54 !a on the weapon 03:34:09 *inscribe 03:35:06 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:38:07 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-162-gb23b67e (34) 03:40:05 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:42:37 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:47:45 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:49:00 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:53:02 coinflip, 1/6, five floors, 03:55:06 namelastname112 (L14 TrMo) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 115: ZotDef: monster swamp worm failed to pathfind to (39,21) (the Orb) (Zot (ZotDef)) 03:55:46 oh right, alongside there only being two maps, 03:57:43 not very confident in the reading, but there's maybe a 5% chance of tiamat appearing in zot? 03:59:34 that seems a little low 03:59:41 !won 03:59:42 amalloy has won 58 times in 404 games (14.36%): 2xDEWz 2xMuVM 1xCeAM 1xCeAr 1xCeNe 1xDDAs 1xDDBe 1xDDEE 1xDEFE 1xDgWn 1xDrCj 1xDrIE 1xDrSu 1xDsAr 1xDsSu 1xDsTm 1xFeBe 1xFoAK 1xFoEE 1xFoIE 1xGhEE 1xGhMo 1xGrAs 1xGrBe 1xGrMo 1xHESk 1xHOFi 1xHOHu 1xHaAr 1xHuAE 1xHuAs 1xHuFi 1xHuWn 1xKoCK 1xKoHu 1xMfAr 1xMfGl 1xMiCK 1xMiWn 1xNaWr 1xNaWz 1xOgHu 1xOpTm 1xOpWz 1xSpEn 1xTeCj 1xTeTm 1xTrAK 1xTrAM 1xTrEn 1x... 03:59:53 i've won 58 times, often diving zot, and seen tiamat at least three times 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:42 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 04:02:37 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:03:12 chance is chance, of course 04:04:15 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:04:32 !lm . unique 04:04:33 6840. [2016-05-21 06:13:48] gammafunk the Convoker (L14 DESu of Sif Muna) killed Azrael on turn 16299. (Elf:1) 04:04:38 !lm . unique noun=tiamat 04:04:39 1. [2013-08-04 06:53:35] gammafunk the Bludgeoner (L26 OgAr of Fedhas) killed Tiamat on turn 115291. (Zot:2) 04:04:50 I may have only seen her twice 04:05:05 but I almost always dive zot 04:05:15 !lg . won 04:05:16 61. gammafunk the Elven Blade (L27 HECK of Fedhas), escaped with the Orb and 5 runes on 2016-05-21 01:54:08, with 2696775 points after 92007 turns and 8:47:26. 04:05:29 61 is more than 58! 04:05:52 !lg devteamnp won s=name 04:05:54 1840 games for devteamnp (won): 464x 78291, 310x elliptic, 150x Lasty, 121x MarvinPA, 115x Medar, 70x itsmu, 62x evilmike, 61x gammafunk, 58x rob, 50x pointless, 45x amalloy, 42x doy, 42x SGrunt, 40x dpeg, 39x pleasingfungus, 26x wheals, 26x sorear, 24x KiloByte, 13x ontoclasm, 13x bh, 13x Sage, 9x erisdiscordia, 8x Keskitalo, 8x HangedMan, 6x reaver, 5x bookofjude, 5x haranp, 3x edlothiol, 3x Nei... 04:06:10 !lm . unique nou=tiamat 04:06:11 in the top 10 04:06:11 Unknown field: nou 04:06:13 !lm . unique noun=tiamat 04:06:14 1. [2016-05-12 01:33:28] wormsofcant the Bringer of Law (L27 HaAs of Zin) killed Tiamat on turn 144293. (Zot:4) 04:06:17 !lm . uniq=tiamat 04:06:18 2. [2015-10-20 07:32:02] amalloy the Slayer (L27 VSFi of Cheibriados) killed Tiamat on turn 71162. (Zot:2) 04:06:29 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 04:07:09 evilmike and itsmu no problem, but Medar will be hard to catch up to 04:07:16 and then there's the enigma that is yollama 04:07:28 some call him King of the Llamas 04:07:33 i think i have more mountebank wins than yollama wins 04:07:37 !lg . won s=name 04:07:38 58 games for amalloy (won): 45x amalloy, 8x Mountebank, 4x yollama, hyperamalloy 04:08:16 at some point I want there to be a win a I have literally no recollection of at all 04:08:27 I'll just stare at the morgue shaking my head 04:08:40 "this never happened..." 04:09:04 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-166-g8096714 (34) 04:09:38 is there a way to check how many times cerebov has killed himself via firestorm 04:09:46 no 04:09:49 dang 04:09:55 if you mean by milestones 04:10:05 you'd have to spider the morgue files and search them 04:10:07 hey look i got ANOTHER mummy into the Hell Levels 04:10:12 ho boy 04:10:20 !lm shard1697 uniq=cerebov 04:10:21 26. [2016-05-21 08:08:54] Shard1697 the Conqueror (L27 GhWn of Okawaru) killed Cerebov on turn 86099. (Pan) 04:10:24 time to die at xl 13-15 AS ALWAYS 04:10:27 !lm www br.enter=coc 04:10:28 No milestones for www (br.enter=coc). 04:10:30 !lm www br.enter=cocy 04:10:31 No milestones for www (br.enter=cocy). 04:10:36 !lm * br.enter=coc 04:10:37 15447. [2016-05-21 08:04:52] DEFE the Slayer (L27 DrFi of Ashenzari) entered Cocytus on turn 109795. (Hell) 04:10:43 i desperately need MM 04:10:56 !lm www br.enter=coc|tar|dis|geh|pan / won 04:10:59 0/3 milestones for www (br.enter=coc|tar|dis|geh|pan): N=0/3 (0.00%) 04:11:07 zero percent 04:11:45 i did kill urug though 04:12:17 killing urug should be 100 tournament points, at least 04:12:47 :3 04:12:58 it took like 04:13:01 30 ice beasts 04:13:09 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:13:18 i stood in a corridor and let him one shot them over and over and over 04:13:33 musus.txt 04:13:36 Hero of the Dungeon III: Run away safely from Sigmund to an upstairs (100 tournament points) 04:14:46 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:17:17 alongside all that pan work I wonder if there's anything much that could be done with the hells aside from the roulette context 04:18:22 six floors each time is pretty uncontrolled in the elaborate large layouts and the odds of vaults or shafts... 04:18:38 -!- Nerem has joined ##crawl-dev 04:20:43 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:21:11 I wonder if they could be rethought to be a bit more like a hellish zig 04:21:35 smaller maps with a bit more structure, each level a bit nastier 04:21:59 some day the net will recapture mumra or infiniplex 04:24:04 -!- Naruni has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:25:19 pretty much every layout bar the very simple ones could stand to be smaller, anyway 04:34:33 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 04:38:52 so i looked around 04:39:08 and apparently generating labyrinths with no branching is really hard 04:39:16 who'da thunk 04:42:43 -!- mezmerelda has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:43:15 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:44:26 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 04:44:42 for Labs or for space-filling layouts or...? 04:44:48 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 04:49:30 namelastname112 (L19 TrMo) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 115: ZotDef: monster freezing wraith failed to pathfind to (39,48) (the Orb) (Zot (ZotDef)) 04:52:02 -!- tollymain has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 04:52:15 namelastname112 (L19 TrMo) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 115: ZotDef: monster oklob sapling failed to pathfind to (39,48) (the Orb) (Zot (ZotDef)) 04:53:05 namelastname112 (L19 TrMo) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 115: ZotDef: monster oklob sapling failed to pathfind to (39,48) (the Orb) (Zot (ZotDef)) 04:53:13 this is hilarious 04:55:07 regret-index: labs 04:57:06 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:58:13 hm 04:58:36 .awoken t 04:58:36 No games for * (trunk killer=earth_elemental ikiller~~elementalist t). 04:58:47 i'm kinda surprised nobody has been awoken. i almost was 04:58:52 er right 04:59:04 !lg * (killer=earth_elemental ikiller~~elementalist t). 04:59:05 Broken query near '=earth_elemental ikiller~~elementalist t).' 04:59:14 !lg * (killer=earth_elemental ikiller~~elementalist t) 04:59:15 Broken query near '=earth_elemental ikiller~~elementalist t)' 04:59:23 !lg * killer=earth_elemental ikiller~~elementalist t 04:59:24 2. s0lid the Skirmisher (L1 DrAK of Lugonu), demolished by an earth elemental (summoned by a deep elf elementalist) on Abyss:2 on 2016-05-21 00:47:07, with 0 points after 159 turns and 0:01:00. 04:59:32 labs are still bad, but I don't know if throwing out the maze entirely and allowing autoexplore is that super necessary 04:59:35 hmm 04:59:46 !lg * killer=earth_elemental ikiller~~elementalist t 1 04:59:47 1/2. mbj the Convoker (L18 TeSu of Zin), slain by an earth elemental (summoned by a deep elf elementalist) on Elf:1 (eino_elf_arrival_shootout) on 2016-05-20 22:51:55, with 190034 points after 66194 turns and 4:55:38. 04:59:53 ah. one guy has been, since i last checked a couple days ago 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00:16 -!- zarath9 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:05:30 regret-index: i posted a thing in the newest labyrinth whining thread 05:05:37 about making them basically a guantlet 05:07:33 namelastname112 (L21 TrMo) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 115: ZotDef: monster swamp worm failed to pathfind to (39,48) (the Orb) (Zot (ZotDef)) 05:08:53 -!- Mekire has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:16:56 I like the possibilities of exploring and wandering into encounters enough to not want to completely throw out any maze-like aspect, though I can agree with the notion that crawl is too thoroughly grounded in clearing floors and killing things to continue to support maprot shifting labs much longer 05:21:25 at the very least, if anybody points at me where the level size parameters are defined in dgn-labyrinth.cc I'd readily shrink the current labs down to 50x50-ish 05:26:16 !source dgn_build_labyrinth_level 05:26:16 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dgn-labyrinth.cc#l485 05:26:39 !source LABYRINTH_BORDER 05:26:39 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/defines.h#l88 05:27:35 so lab size is basically normal level size, minus LABYRINTH_BORDER on each side 05:32:14 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest20134 05:36:57 -!- Guest20134 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:49:43 johnstein: for some reason my messages aren't showing up in a game I'm spectating on cbro 05:50:00 -!- hpm has quit [] 05:50:33 johnstein: never mind, it's merely a console player gone tiles-traitor (sorry) 05:53:48 why is necromutation so much weaker than all the other Tm spells at actual UC? 05:56:07 because not all tm spells should be about UC? 05:57:39 -!- NotKat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:58:10 makes sense 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:12:07 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:18:53 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:20:14 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:31:08 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:38:28 -!- Zekka has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:39:13 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:43:21 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:44:04 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:45:19 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:45:53 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:46:33 namelastname112 (L27 TrMo) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 115: ZotDef: monster deep troll zombie failed to pathfind to (39,48) (the Orb) (Zot (ZotDef)) 06:46:55 -!- Idolo has quit [] 06:47:47 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:53:11 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 06:56:55 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:57:00 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest48371 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:02:04 -!- Guest48371 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:09:24 -!- Cenon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:14:24 personal opinion: I still feel like I need ozo's up at all times with my current character (although the fact I have haste castable to basically cancel out the drawback is a big part of it) 07:43:06 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:52:03 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-167-gdad4078: Update tense in a status description 10(6 seconds ago, 1 file, 7+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dad40784c1b7 07:59:26 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 08:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:04:04 hrm, all the other human-hybrids have their own glyphs 08:08:48 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:09:02 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-167-gdad4078 (34) 08:14:33 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:19:44 -!- DevlanMud is now known as DevlanMud|Lappy 08:20:13 -!- DevlanMud|Lappy is now known as DevlanMud 08:21:23 03|amethyst02 07* 0.19-a0-168-gc5c5d64: Change a #define to a typedef. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c5c5d6420918 08:25:44 as much as I can cobble together the flavour, function, and references here for bee priests, I feel reluctant to have a fifteenth/sixteenth monster with Smiting 08:27:14 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:31:45 Elyvilon doesn't allow me to hit anyone, a true pacifist! 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10434 by zkyp 08:36:04 <|amethyst> Amulet of Harm 08:36:12 ahh 08:36:21 <|amethyst> fixed in trunk, but for 0.18 08:36:33 <|amethyst> at the very least we should mark it as an evil item so it shows up as red 08:37:13 <|amethyst> oh 08:38:18 <|amethyst> it *is* marked as an evil item 08:38:23 <|amethyst> why not red then? 08:38:59 sure it isn't? 08:39:05 might have had it on before joining 08:39:30 <|amethyst> oh 08:39:34 <|amethyst> I was testing with trunk 08:39:37 <|amethyst> but that's bad too 08:39:48 <|amethyst> because I was still getting the messages about transgressing 08:40:16 <|amethyst> %git 5d90fae 08:40:16 07MarvinPA02 * 0.19-a0-104-g5d90fae: Don't mark the amulet of harm as evil 10(7 days ago, 4 files, 4+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5d90fae3baf5 08:40:33 <|amethyst> this was only a partial fix 08:40:57 <|amethyst> you still do DID_UNHOLY when hurting a monster while wearing Harm 08:41:13 <|amethyst> that commit changed only what happens when a monster hurts you 08:43:44 <|amethyst> ah, yes, it is red in 0.18 08:44:08 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:44:41 <|amethyst> Not sure whether to mark that as fixed in trunk or what 08:45:03 <|amethyst> well, not until I push this fix, obviously 08:46:12 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:46:41 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:47:25 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 08:48:26 <|amethyst> more generally, maybe it would make sense for changing gods to tell you which items of yours have changed their god_hates_item status 08:49:22 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:51:43 03|amethyst02 07* 0.19-a0-169-g15dfbc9: Really don't count "Harm as evil. 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/15dfbc9a20c8 08:53:39 oops, thanks 08:57:03 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:57:33 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:57:49 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest4537 09:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:02:05 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: I'll let you decide whether that should be closed as "fixed in trunk" or left open because there's no warning and no indication of why you're losing piety 09:02:29 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: (and whether the changes should be backported, for that matter) 09:02:35 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 09:02:47 -!- Guest4537 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:03:48 hmm yeah, alerting you to equipped god-hated items when you change gods does seem like the best general fix at least 09:07:14 -!- fixit_friend has joined ##crawl-dev 09:09:07 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-169-g15dfbc9 (34) 09:23:50 <|amethyst> bug report: 09:24:18 <|amethyst> "vault guard" and "vault warden" sound kind of similar, and are in fact etymologically cognate 09:24:23 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 09:29:37 well, warden generally does hold connotations of being in a higher position than guard, which holds true here 09:42:15 <|amethyst> yeah 09:42:49 -!- cang has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:43:34 <|amethyst> rename "guard" to "sentry"? 09:43:52 that I would be in fact more worried about 09:43:57 <|amethyst> hm 09:43:59 since it's close to sentinel 09:44:02 <|amethyst> aha 09:44:13 <|amethyst> yeah, "guard" is probably fine 09:44:21 <|amethyst> it does have a "g" before the "uard" 09:44:31 <|amethyst> and the u is silent 09:46:33 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:48:23 I never promised you a vault warden 09:49:30 -!- rossi_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 09:49:51 <|amethyst> I shot a man in Temple just to watch him die 09:50:10 <|amethyst> Vault Warden Funeral of Sores 09:50:49 <|amethyst> or there's the Lair equivalent, savage warden 09:51:26 fr: that enemy 09:51:29 <|amethyst> hm, vault wardens in Snake 09:51:51 <|amethyst> that's really the only lair branch with enough doors for it to matter 09:52:06 <|amethyst> I mean, I guess stairs always matter 09:52:36 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:53:15 snakes could actually benefit from things locking you in since they're slow 09:53:29 well, Snake-dwellers are 09:53:29 <|amethyst> exactly... well, nagas, not snakes 09:53:31 <|amethyst> yeah 09:55:52 <|amethyst> but I guess gserpents' Blink Allies Encircling is already sort of like convokers' Word of Recall, so maybe Snake would be ripping off Vaults too much 09:56:36 -!- dplusplus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:56:49 the answer is for it to simply be a single vault. 09:56:59 Hi there 09:57:21 <|amethyst> dplusplus: hello! 09:57:33 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:03:34 -!- mamgar has quit [Client Quit] 10:04:01 http://pastie.org/10846537 argh, I'm out of reasonable consolidations 10:08:13 could just use direct buffs, of course, but then that just makes me want to use fravashi or melissa stingmaidens 10:13:51 -!- destrovel has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:18:03 -!- fixit_friend has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:24:41 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:24:52 -!- fixit_friend has joined ##crawl-dev 10:25:50 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:27:45 -!- meatpath has joined ##crawl-dev 10:31:30 -!- devlan|lappy has quit [Client Quit] 10:38:06 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:39:45 Felid went up one level after potion of experience, but shows that I have enough experience to go up another level 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10435 by paintchip 10:43:33 -!- fixit_friend has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:44:05 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:45:35 -!- fixit_friend has joined ##crawl-dev 10:48:11 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:52:26 -!- minmay has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:52:26 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:53:24 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:58:32 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest36810 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:43 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:00:44 -!- DevlanMud|Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:02:30 -!- Guest36810 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:14:41 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:15:17 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:16:02 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:23:35 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 11:30:06 !lg * cbro t / tiles 11:30:08 18969/19953 games for * (cbro t): N=18969/19953 (95.07%) 11:31:10 -!- DDFi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:35:36 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:35:49 -!- Dracunos has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:36:03 that's a lot of pixels 11:38:14 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:39:46 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:41:03 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:41:35 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:52:06 git submodule --init ? 11:52:25 <|amethyst> git submodule update --init 11:52:41 oops. yea, that's what I typed 11:52:56 do I need to be in the contribs directory? 11:53:11 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:53:14 <|amethyst> at the top level of the repository 11:53:32 <|amethyst> so if you're in crawl-ref/source/, you need to cd ../.. 11:54:00 fatal: unable to connect to gitorious.org: 11:54:00 gitorious.org[0: 64.13.172.37]: errno=No error 11:54:00 Unable to fetch in submodule path 'crawl-ref/source/contrib/freetype' 11:54:18 this is an old clone, but I've pulled master a few times. 11:54:38 <|amethyst> whahm 11:54:46 seems like git reset orign/master doesn't update the links in the submodules? 11:55:07 (oh, I did a git reset HEAD origin/master to try to force it to sync up) 11:55:11 <|amethyst> what does git status say? 11:55:35 <|amethyst> git reset without --hard doesn't affect the working tree 11:55:38 modified: crawl-ref/source/contrib/freetype (new commits) 11:55:38 modified: crawl-ref/source/contrib/libpng (new commits) 11:55:38 modified: crawl-ref/source/contrib/lua (new commits) 11:55:38 modified: crawl-ref/source/contrib/pcre (new commits) 11:55:38 modified: crawl-ref/source/contrib/sqlite (new commits) 11:55:39 modified: crawl-ref/source/contrib/zlib (new commits) 11:55:43 ah ok 11:55:44 yea 11:56:05 (I haven't been working in the submodules as far as I can remember) 11:56:10 maybe I'll add the --hard 11:58:01 man I hate submodules 11:58:14 obviously I did something stupid and it thinks I have changes. 11:58:34 I did the git reset --hard origin/master and things looked good. 11:59:05 did a git fetch, and it refetched all the branches then stumbled on the submodules 11:59:24 Fetching submodule crawl-ref/source/contrib/freetype 11:59:25 fatal: unable to connect to gitorious.org: 11:59:25 gitorious.org[0: 64.13.172.37]: errno=No error 11:59:25 Fetching submodule crawl-ref/source/contrib/libpng 11:59:25 fatal: unable to connect to gitorious.org: 11:59:25 gitorious.org[0: 64.13.172.37]: errno=No error 11:59:34 for each submod 11:59:35 <|amethyst> hm 11:59:44 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:59:46 I don't remember having to manually update links for cbro 11:59:53 but maybe I'm blocking that out 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:00:41 -!- eliot_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:00:52 <|amethyst> hm 12:02:26 <|amethyst> ah, submodule update --init (and submodule init) doesn't replace existing information in .git/config 12:02:28 I mean, I could just go into each submodule and update the remote url 12:02:39 ah 12:02:55 so did we all have to go manually update the remotes? 12:02:57 <|amethyst> it's the "submodule" sections of your top-level .git/config 12:03:03 ok 12:03:09 I'm kinda remembering this now 12:03:36 <|amethyst> you can probably do a submodule deinit followed by a submodule update --init 12:03:49 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:04:10 <|amethyst> but I think you have to explicitly list the submodules when you deinit 12:06:40 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:08:57 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:08:59 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:10:02 git submodule deinit -f . got rid of everything. git submodule update --init seemed to bring everything back. then I still got a gitorious error for freetype. 12:10:14 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:10:52 http://pastebin.com/vXe7wTcE 12:11:09 it's weird because in the update --init, it seems to have the github path for freetype 12:11:29 (the root issue here is that I don't fully understand submodules) 12:17:02 -!- Franz__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:22:17 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:24:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:26:16 We need a special tile for robe of Vines. 12:26:50 Patches welcome! 12:26:57 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:43 does anyone know what this depths vault is that has runed doors leading to: walls (that you have to dig) 12:27:50 hahaha 12:27:52 because that is not a good use of runed doors 12:28:06 sounds like a find-replace of secret doors 12:28:12 and also very funny 12:28:47 it still wouldn't make sense with secret doors though, i think it's new 12:28:52 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 12:29:11 hm. this is the sort of thing r-i would know 12:29:30 as our designated Dungeon Master 12:30:28 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:32:00 i wish there were a good way to search .des files for runed doors 12:32:53 are all these google results for dungeon mistress bdsm trash 12:33:02 <|amethyst> remove the '=' glyph default and force the vaults that use them to do KFEAT: = = runed_door 12:33:39 that would honestly be pretty reasonable 12:33:42 that might be- yeah 12:33:43 yeah, agreed 12:33:44 !vault minmay_expanding_circles 12:33:45 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/large_abstract.des#l768 12:33:45 haha 12:33:57 !blame3 minmay 12:33:57 miiiiinmaaaaayyyyy 12:34:04 that's the one 12:34:06 I presume the point of the runed doors here is to make one actually notice there's something to dig. 12:34:10 ohhh 12:34:12 i know that one 12:34:28 it's not a _great_ use here, of course. 12:34:36 it's very cute 12:35:20 what if you just remove the walls that you are supposed to dig 12:35:24 and leave the runed doors 12:35:25 there could just be normal doors instead of requiring digging at all 12:35:38 or even that yes 12:35:49 alternately 12:35:53 make the diggable walls into glass 12:35:54 it'd be much nastier, since the vault is small 12:36:21 and turn the rune doors into normal doors/floors 12:36:26 glass is a good way for enemies to smoosh up against it rather than be lying back, too, though it'd possibly the best of the lot. 12:38:02 unrelated, t feedback: 'Maxwell's Etheric Cage seems nutso good now that the contam mechanic was changed from "constantly gives you contam until you inevitably hit yellow contam even if you use nothing else that gives you it" to "doubles contam from all sources".' 12:38:15 related to the "make runed doors transparent" thing i guess 12:38:48 although if that were changed i don't like using runed doors mid-vault 12:38:53 even if* 12:39:06 <|amethyst> I don't like the idea of making runed doors transparent 12:39:18 pathfinding struggling so much with glass 12:39:26 obviously, we could have two different kinds of runed doors 12:39:29 <|amethyst> if we carried that to its logical conclusion, any vault that might be recognizable from the outside should be made of glass 12:39:47 <|amethyst> s/might/would/ 12:39:54 would be a bit odd for doorvault 12:39:59 though what isn't odd for doorvault, these days 12:40:52 well it's a pretty unavoidable problem with vaults existing at all i think? but runed doors are meant to indicate "this is a vault and it's a particularly nasty one that you might not want to just wander into unspoiled" 12:40:58 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:41:19 so if there is some arbitrary-ish distinction on which vaults get runed doors in the first place it also seems maybe fine for those to be the ones you get to see into 12:41:44 not sure really, and also yeah glass is weird in terms of travel and stuff 12:41:51 I would say "it's a particularly nasty one that you might not want to just wander into", but i think i'd strike 'unspoiled' 12:42:08 if that makes sense 12:42:10 <|amethyst> we don't always use runed doors for that 12:42:26 <|amethyst> e.g. that's why yiuf's cottage had the plants and the kink in the hallway 12:42:31 <|amethyst> s/had/has/ 12:42:44 the thing is, there's a lot of nasty vaults that substitute runed doors with, say, fodder beforehand >_> 12:42:45 <|amethyst> to prevent autoexploring into it accidentally 12:42:49 <|amethyst> yeah 12:43:23 <|amethyst> I always thought of runed doors as a technical solution to prevent autoexplore 12:43:26 true yeah, and i do sort of prefer those to runed doors (because runed doors get misused for other stuff a lot) 12:43:45 <|amethyst> (and to keep monsters from escaping the vault) 12:44:02 i still very much want to get rid of that latter thing 12:44:13 -!- Dracunos has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:44:15 <|amethyst> and remove that arrival vault? 12:44:27 stuff like door vault existed and was fine with monsters being able to get out if you were noisy 12:44:53 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 12:44:53 needing to prevent monsters from escaping arguably is usually linkable to "this is a nasty amount of things that shouldn't be let free", though, yeah, I miss doorvault opening itself 12:45:03 |amethyst: well, "door that monsters can't open" did used to be a distinct thing that existed 12:45:07 erm, that shouldn't be autoexplored into 12:45:10 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: yeah 12:45:12 it was just merged into runed doors, and i don't think that was good 12:45:38 it works... not all of the time. 12:45:54 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:46:27 -!- Dracunos is now known as removejuggernaut 12:47:05 <|amethyst> runed doors were used in so many ways 12:47:30 <|amethyst> to replace monster-unopenable doors, to replace warning statues, to replace secret doors, ... 12:47:46 yeah :( 12:47:47 isn't there still a warning statue around somewhere 12:47:51 some lair vault 12:47:57 i think the ones that just replaced secret doors are mostly gone now at least 12:48:01 <|amethyst> yeah, I think so 12:48:08 <|amethyst> re warning statue 12:48:36 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 12:48:59 -!- NotKat is now known as removecentaur 12:49:41 <|amethyst> clearly need 8 different door types (16 if you count open/closed): player-only? × warns? × transparent when closed? 12:50:09 ha, mikee_hates_you still has a custom extra runed door 12:50:26 here: a closed locked runed glass door. 12:50:28 -!- removecentaur is now known as NotKat 12:51:19 <|amethyst> could solicit corporate sponsorship from glassdoor.com 12:51:24 <|amethyst> clearly need 8 different door types (16 if you count open/closed): player-only? �W warns? �W transparent when closed? 12:51:30 as opposed to transparent when open? 12:51:43 <|amethyst> minmay: right, they're all transparent when open 12:52:06 <|amethyst> except for fog doors 12:52:14 <|amethyst> bead doors 12:52:20 clearly we need glass doors that become opaque when opened 12:52:41 <|amethyst> The lush curtains catch fire! 12:53:34 so many permutations... 12:53:50 and with all these cases, we will have enough space to implement door god 12:54:20 -!- Dracunos_ is now known as Dracunos 12:54:57 <|amethyst> You see here an altar to Trog covered in shallow water. 12:55:29 or a doorkohle wizlab 12:56:02 mangroves outside of swamp again 12:56:08 <|amethyst> we should have a wizlab that is a logic puzzle with sets of locking doors 12:56:24 <|amethyst> I guess roulette is already kind of a logic puzzle 12:56:59 -!- removejuggernaut is now known as removeharm 12:57:44 Ecumenical altar is too rare. 12:58:06 I've seen it once in my games in this tourney. 12:58:58 <|amethyst> Yermak: it has something like a 19% chance to appear if you make it all the way to D:3 12:59:06 <|amethyst> 10% chance on D:2, 10% on D:3 12:59:14 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest15014 12:59:16 i thought that % was per-game 12:59:25 i feel like that's what the docs indicated 12:59:38 !lm . t s=verb 12:59:39 228 milestones for PleasingFungus (t): 64x uniq, 44x br.enter, 22x br.end, 21x begin, 21x br.exit, 10x god.worship, 10x rune, 7x ghost, 6x god.maxpiety, 5x sacrifice, 4x shaft, 4x god.ecumenical, 3x abyss.exit, 3x abyss.enter, 3x uniq.ban, orb 12:59:46 <|amethyst> This specifies a CHANCE of 80%, which means the dummy will 12:59:46 <|amethyst> be used in 80% of vault placement attempts. 12:59:59 isn't there a colon in there somewhere, and that's a different thing? idk 13:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:04 !lg . t 13:00:05 21. pleasingfungus the Magician (L8 DEWn), slain by a worker ant on D:6 on 2016-05-19 21:52:45, with 1758 points after 8214 turns and 0:27:07. 13:00:31 food.des shows it has to be more complicated than that 13:00:39 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: a little later: 13:00:44 <|amethyst> For instance, if you have a set of portal vault entries, and you want one of the set to be used on 5% of all levels, you can do this: 13:00:50 yeah that 13:00:51 <|amethyst> then essentially what we do 13:01:00 looks like i got ecu altar in more than one in five of my t games (i think closer to one in 4, i remember skipping one or two), and some of those games didn't make it past d:1 13:01:09 so 10% is anecdotally underestimating it 13:01:14 !lg yermak t 13:01:15 51. Yermak the Ninja (L27 VSAs of Pakellas), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-05-21 16:50:06, with 1904549 points after 52861 turns and 5:04:55. 13:01:17 <|amethyst> I took "all levels" there to mean the chance is independent 13:01:23 bad luck? taking a lot of early gods? 13:01:25 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:01:56 isn't there some vaultstat tool that could actually test this? 13:02:19 -mapstat 13:03:24 -!- Guest15014 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:07:12 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:08:30 -!- tupper has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:08:39 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 13:10:04 -!- Witidek has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 13:10:45 -!- jefus- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:11:42 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:14:37 -!- DevlanMud|Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:14:39 <|amethyst> in 1000 iterations of -mapstat D:2-3, 93 placements (124 attempts) of ecumenical_altar_1, and 80 (116) of ecumenical_altar_2 13:14:54 -!- oxeimon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:14:55 <|amethyst> so about 17% of games 13:15:33 -!- DevlanMud|Lappy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:17:57 <|amethyst> oh 13:18:13 <|amethyst> mapstat should make mapstat.out or map.stat instead of mapstat.log 13:18:28 <|amethyst> because *.out and *.stat are in our global .gitignore, but *.log is not 13:19:07 <|amethyst> alternatively, could add mapstat.log to .gitignore 13:20:12 <|amethyst> I guess there's also unique_placement.log, but I bet it's been a long time since anyone defined DEBUG_UNIQUE_PLACEMENT 13:20:49 ...hrm, I have the feeling as I add a silent spectre to the ettin vault that somebody has done this before in some submission 13:22:00 <|amethyst> too bad it's not an earlier version of crawl 13:22:04 <|amethyst> you could have the ettin carry a giant fish corpse 13:22:23 <|amethyst> so it's shouting in stereo, then the spectre shows up 13:22:24 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:22:26 <|amethyst> and it drops the bass 13:22:32 oh my god. 13:23:34 I don't know what to say. 13:24:04 <|amethyst> thanks, I'm here every Saturday, remember to tip your server 13:26:58 -!- NotKat has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:27:53 -!- shinino has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:28:41 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-169-g15dfbc9 (34) 13:30:54 -!- Gilihad has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:35:35 03|amethyst02 07* 0.19-a0-170-g0e17dc0: Undoxx. 10(19 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0e17dc08c8c7 13:45:05 -!- mibert has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:53:01 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:53:06 -!- Sprort has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:55:45 -!- tollymain has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:52 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:59:57 -!- Nattefrost1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01:31 -!- dplusplus has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 14:05:44 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:06:14 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:06:32 ...actually, umbra is magenta flooring in console, isn't it. 14:06:51 have to worry about dithmenos worshippers not getting the free abyss rune vault hint 14:07:07 dith is otherwise quite good for abyss, so it's only fair. 14:09:03 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-170-g0e17dc0 (34) 14:19:11 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:22:07 regret-index: TSO halo also obscures weird floor coloring unless something changed 14:22:32 http://pastie.org/10846850 final drafts, might push after I sleep 14:22:33 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:23:08 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:23:13 is it possible to turn off aura in a specific view command? 14:23:17 -!- Jiharo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:24:11 new | might be able to? or if not that seems like a good place to put it 14:24:36 I'm not sure it is something that players are likely to ever do though? 14:24:56 -!- eb has quit [Client Quit] 14:25:29 -!- eb_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:26:40 -!- removeharm has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:26:44 the abyssal rune vault changes I was working on use floor recolouring to mark abyssal rune vaults, and it just feels sad that this hint is specifically never given to console players under two gods >>_>> 14:27:24 isn't abyss floor often strangely colored normally anyway? 14:27:34 as in, independently of vaults 14:28:24 ...yeesh, it's been extremely long since I've actually looked at console abyss >_> 14:28:48 I could two-tone, maybe 14:29:50 maybe I'm thinking of some older abyss, I'm just seeing a crazy assortment of walls currently 14:30:20 ‬imo a --More-- with "The abyssal rune is so close you can just SMELL it!" 14:30:24 or maybe you're thinking of pan? 14:30:29 i think random-coloured floors (in pan too?) got changed to fix the halo stuff 14:30:57 ie to never be halo/umbra/silence-coloured at least 14:31:25 amalloy: warning statues completely surrounding all abyss rune vualts 14:31:28 vaults 14:31:30 velts 14:31:36 veldts 14:31:39 ! 14:31:53 amalloy: what does the abyss rune smell like 14:32:25 it smells like the smug satisfaction of never having ot go to v:5 14:32:40 and instead dying to nine spatial maelstroms 14:32:59 i'll take that every time 14:33:22 !lg . abyss s=xl 14:33:23 6 games for amalloy (abyss): 2x 8, 2x 1, 24, 4 14:33:34 !lg . abyss xl=24 14:33:35 1. Mountebank the Imperceptible (L24 OpIE of Dithmenos), slain by a tentacled starspawn on Abyss:4 on 2015-03-14 13:14:01, with 461098 points after 97193 turns and 22:39:56. 14:33:46 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:34:01 hm. i remember that OpIE was really weak, but i don't remember how he ended up dying 14:34:09 regret-index: okay, I don't know what color you were making abyssal rune vault floor exactly but I was right that "normal" abyss sometimes has unusually colored floors (I've seen green and blue so far) 14:34:20 lightmagenta 14:35:07 using two colours will technically be proofed against that, not that I'm sure what the second colour should be besides not yellow/magenta/cyan 14:35:21 is that the same as umbra? if so then that seems bad (because players might think it is umbra from a profane servitor) 14:35:32 umbra is magenta 14:35:49 using two colors won't help with the halo issue though 14:35:53 yeah 14:36:20 freaking console. 14:36:39 half way to completely joining pleasingfungus's camp 14:36:55 join me... 14:38:11 <|amethyst> we could use one additional glyph 14:38:19 <|amethyst> for floor with halo 14:38:40 |amethyst: there are multiple types of halo though... 14:38:51 <|amethyst> use colour still to distinguish those 14:39:15 <|amethyst> hm 14:39:22 <|amethyst> but I guess that's still only half the problem 14:39:44 there's an obvious solution to all of this: 14:39:47 remove 14:39:49 floors 14:40:18 yeah, and the half that we already have sort of solved (don't recolor floors to umbra/halo color) 14:40:56 I agree, the game should be a < with the orb on it completely surrounded by walls 14:41:20 no, no, you misunderstand. don't change anything else, just remove floors. when you step off the d:1 stairs, you fall down to zot:5 14:41:26 but then you keep falling, because there's no floor on zot:5 either 14:41:47 i like it 14:42:11 quit trying to implement nethack's plane of air, people 14:42:13 <|amethyst> I think I rememeber that level of battletoads 14:43:14 i guess 50% of clinger winger is implemented already 14:43:54 just like clinger winger, crawl unavoidably kills the second player 14:44:12 until we have Snake Pit, we haven't even started 14:45:07 I guess that's also called Karnath's Lair 14:46:32 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:51:23 -!- PsiRedEye22 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:51:25 -!- eb_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:52:48 Boulder beetle disappears upon Ely pacification 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10436 by Malevolent 14:55:45 wow, just killed sigmund with an amulet of reflection. ty, lasty 14:56:03 -!- DevlanMud|Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:58:39 cheating... 14:59:24 !lm www alive s=name,char 14:59:25 45 milestones for www (alive): 15x wheals (15x MuEE), 15x ontoclasm (15x MuSu), 10x amalloy (10x FeSu), 5x pleasingfungus (5x DgSu) 14:59:35 uh 14:59:37 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:59:40 can people stop copying me 14:59:49 lmao 14:59:52 let's not pretend that you all know how to play Su 15:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:00:05 gammafunk: you might be interested to learn Su is pretty good 15:00:19 not according to berder! 15:00:23 -!- regret-index has left ##crawl-dev 15:00:44 hrm. guardian golem, or lightning spire? 15:00:48 spell levels are so tight.. 15:00:52 spire probably 15:00:53 lightning spire first 15:00:59 but will be harder to cast at first 15:01:01 i feel like i have to pick up guard golem, just because of that argument the other day 15:01:05 yeah i'd need to invest in air 15:01:13 you actually don't really 15:01:18 although I do get 3 ice for ice beast 15:01:46 playing a FeSu is comically xp-light. i didn't find lair till D:11, and i was only XL10. i finally made it to 50 HP at lair:6 15:01:50 hrm 15:01:56 amalloy, you should really fix the X> thing 15:01:58 or i should 15:02:01 someone should 15:02:18 <|amethyst> that it doesn't seem to do pathing now? 15:02:27 gammafunk: i was playing musus before it was cool 15:02:29 <|amethyst> I wonder when that broke exactly 15:03:25 i broke it, which is why PleasingFungus thinks i should feel some responsibility for it 15:03:29 PleasingFungus: yeah as I wrote on mantis I think it is a fairly important feature 15:04:21 -!- Lightli_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:04:24 would be very nice to have it back :) 15:05:45 %git f3709142ad128d091d16cdbc2ec189be88d862aa 15:05:45 07amalloy02 * 0.18-a0-739-gf370914: Let XE show you exclusions in unexplored terrain 10(5 months ago, 1 file, 17+ 64-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f3709142ad12 15:05:50 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:06:12 reverting this would fix it, but i also like the feature i added there, and i don't know how to fix it so we get both 15:07:59 1learn add 15:10:10 -!- Lightli_ is now known as Lightli 15:18:10 -!- cojito has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:18:39 -!- serq has quit [Changing host] 15:23:50 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:26:21 <|amethyst> amalloy: could revert and have E turn off travel_mode 15:26:22 can I blame nicolae for a food shop that has a hungry ghost? 15:26:39 gammafunk: yes 15:26:43 I knew it 15:27:07 !vault nicolae_shop_scaring_up_business 15:27:08 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/builder/shops.des#l600 15:27:30 he's a madman who must be stopped... 15:29:16 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:31:27 <|amethyst> amalloy: or revert change that if (travel_mode) to if (travel_mode && getty != 'E') 15:32:02 <|amethyst> amalloy: s/revert change/revert and change/ 15:47:03 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:47:13 _K - the +9 halberd of Honour (weapon) {pain, *Drain rC+ MR++} 15:47:18 is that what honour truly is? 15:47:58 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:50:32 absolutely 15:51:39 should xom be amused when the palyer falls down a shaft? or when a guardian golem explodes? both of those things seem funny to me, but xom didn't react 15:52:14 g. golem exploding definitely not 15:52:29 but unknown traps seems like a xom thing 15:55:15 I wonder if it'd be hard to figure out the delay of a weapon in lua 15:58:44 -!- vale__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:59:09 <|amethyst> gammafunk: IMO just expose you.attack_delay to Lua 15:59:28 ??gammafunk[2 15:59:28 gammafunk[2/6]: See nicolae's vaults in 10069 and 10388. 15:59:28 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:59:37 <|amethyst> (and also show the number in @, not just "quite slow" etc) 15:59:54 !learn set gammafunk[2] Expose you.attack_delay and autopickup menu options in lua 15:59:55 gammafunk[2/6]: Expose you.attack_delay and autopickup menu options in lua 16:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:35 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest6398 16:04:47 -!- Guest6398 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:06:37 -!- nezrel has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:13:12 -!- Franz__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:24:16 -!- eliotn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:25:12 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 16:25:38 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 16:32:48 serious FR: most of the freezing cloud generators in ice caves should be removed, they tend to kill the monsters and don't really serve a purpose 16:35:37 -!- Surgo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:37:03 I agree they are annoying 16:37:07 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:37:50 -!- shummie has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:48:39 I get the flavour purpose for cloud generators in volcanoes and some other vaults, but there is really no reason for the random fog generators in corridors in ice caves 16:48:59 yeah, they at least don't work with the yak etc monster set 16:49:21 they are okay with the demon monster set caves 16:49:48 (though it is still annoying how hard it is to predict whether a given square is safe to rest without getting clouded suddenly) 16:53:25 -!- JimmahDean has quit [] 16:54:36 -!- evan55 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:56:50 -!- fixit_friend has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:57:17 why don't they have the different flooring the way some cloud generators do 16:57:58 -!- nicholas982 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:58:47 that's a good idea 16:59:13 I think reducing their frequency might also be good 16:59:39 fr: ice cave effects, random ice miscasts 16:59:52 also yeah, removing them from the ice caves that are full of animals would be good 17:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:05 i don't love conveying useful information via floor colour. it is a pretty small detail to have to apy attention to, and also something players don't know about floor colour clues unless they've read about it 17:00:20 <|amethyst> FR: fog machine is a different feature with a different glyph 17:00:28 <|amethyst> bonus points if you can specify one without lua 17:00:47 division sign obviously 17:01:01 hrm, how would that even work, it's just a one-tile machine? 17:01:20 even the demon/undead ice caves have white imps and ufetubi that like to die to the fog generators 17:01:31 I guess the game logic could look for adjacent fog tiles (of the same type) and coordinate the fog? 17:01:49 <|amethyst> I mean, make KFEAT: ^ = fog machine type:freezing excl_rad:1 etc.. etc.. turn into the corresponding Lua call 17:02:00 <|amethyst> or something like that anyway 17:02:12 well, then adjacent tiles aren't part of the machine technically 17:02:17 so they'd not be a different feature 17:02:26 which kind of defeats the purpose, no? 17:02:30 maybe I'm misunderstanding 17:02:30 <|amethyst> hm 17:02:40 amalloy: yeah, i understand that 17:02:52 but it'd be strictly better than the current situation 17:03:20 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:03:25 <|amethyst> if you set the correct excl_rad and size, the extent of the cloud could probably be predicted 17:03:39 <|amethyst> and excluded before you see the cloud itself 17:03:50 <|amethyst> default glyph could probably be just ^ 17:04:05 <|amethyst> or maybe something fancy and ^ in ascii 17:04:10 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:04:32 <|amethyst> s/before you see the cloud itself/before the cloud appears/ 17:04:39 I've done many ice caves and still have no clue how the freezing clouds in them work, they seem rather random 17:04:42 <|amethyst> and exclusion is colourful 17:05:11 <|amethyst> you could even have the description of the fog machine describe its period, size, etc 17:05:26 <|amethyst> "It occasionally releases large gouts of flame." 17:05:53 -!- CcS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:05:55 |amethyst: do they all even have periods currently? or are they just too large for me to tell 17:06:51 <|amethyst> hm 17:07:23 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:08:18 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest95615 17:08:54 I know that the clouds in some vaults behave very regularly (and some vaults are based around this) but in ice caves I seemed to unpredictably have clouds dropped on my head after 30 turns of resting in a seemingly safe location 17:10:02 <|amethyst> delay_min = 50, delay_max = 300 17:18:17 <|amethyst> (for the ones in ice caves, that is) 17:21:21 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:21:57 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 17:31:30 hm, I wonder if part of my confusion about ice cave fog generators is that their locations seem to be randomized a lot and there might be two close together 17:31:35 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:33:10 that combined with the large variance of delays would make things fairly unpredictable, since if two nearby ones go off in close succession then the clouds might extend a lot further out 17:33:24 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 17:34:13 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:34:29 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:34:36 making them less randomized (both in location and delay) and actually making fog machine a visible feature seems good to me at least 17:46:23 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:54:33 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:56:10 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:56:17 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:57:00 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 17:58:55 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:01 would volcano fog machines be visible? or is this specifically an ice cave thing? 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:03:01 also, would fog machines be LRD-able? 18:03:42 no more so than traps are presumably 18:03:53 since |amethyst was suggesting the trap glyph 18:04:07 ah 18:04:17 (as in, I assume you'd still be able to walk over the fog machine) 18:04:21 makes sense. 18:05:26 volcano fog machines are rather different in nature I think 18:05:54 since they use this walk_dist parameter 18:06:48 I guess not all of them do 18:07:33 in general volcano fog machines work better since the lava tells you approximately where they are 18:07:58 but the clouds in ice caves aren't just around the pools of water 18:08:11 they're around the ice statues, obviously 18:08:13 :P 18:09:04 yes, freezing cloud fog machines and ice statues are sort of redundant... 18:11:28 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 18:13:17 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:15:20 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-a0-170-g0e17dc0 (34) 18:15:58 deadly redundancy 18:16:22 -!- Guest95615 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:16:33 -!- sgun__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:16:46 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:16:58 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 18:27:20 -!- halv has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:37:34 interesting 18:37:59 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EHBQDfyxRCdYbJPlnWFalYfnqc9iA7xqFWHiX0CZQkE/edit#gid=749486315 18:38:44 what's this 18:38:45 Swamp: 121790, Snake: 94650, Spider: 117980 18:38:50 see title 18:39:06 oh, duh 18:39:09 nutrition-wise it did feel like snake has somewhat less 18:39:14 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:39:17 just salamanders and anacondas 18:39:26 Meatsnake 18:39:28 in spider there being so many orb spiders and tarantulas 18:39:28 we could always de-toxify some snakes 18:39:37 it would make minmay happy 18:39:40 -!- sgun_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:39:41 yeah, I mean you can argue it's nice to have varying baseline levels 18:39:43 and isn't that a noble goal? 18:39:48 is the varying nutrition an issue 18:39:52 or just a thing you noticed 18:39:53 since shoals is probably a ton compared to these 18:40:00 oh, probably 18:40:03 I noticed on my su^sif speedrun 18:40:08 snake ate up a lot of food 18:40:15 not any kind of actual problem 18:40:22 just that there's different amounts by branch 18:40:27 I'm sure shoals is by far the highest 18:42:44 swamps worms and tarantulas, the kings of nutrition 18:43:43 is dissolution a valid target for enslave soul? 18:43:46 @??dissolution 18:43:46 Dissolution (13J) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 143-205 | AC/EV: 10/1 | Dam: 5008(acid:7d3), 3008(acid:7d3) | 04eats items, priest, see invisible, regen, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(120), 03poison, 08acid+++, 08blind, 12drown | Vul: 11silver | XP: 13867 | Sp: sum.eyeballs [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 18:44:39 -!- fixit_friend has joined ##crawl-dev 18:44:40 interesting, arachne is edible 18:44:50 you just eat the human parts and not the spider parts 18:44:56 and also the unique that's worth the most nutrition on-average in those three branches 18:45:17 mostly just due to placing a lot 18:45:34 kirke does also give you hogs, so 18:46:08 I also never realized how much variance there is in the number of monsters placed 18:46:22 210 for spider, 140 for swamp 18:47:00 spider makes sense as being more, but I didn't realized swamp placed so few also compared to snake 18:47:05 I guess all those snakes 18:49:15 time to put more alligators in swamp 18:52:07 why does mara have pain 18:53:05 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 18:59:57 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:55 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:02:01 why do executioners have pain 19:03:15 -!- JiharoDC has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:07:02 I think it's just something they can use to do some ranged damage 19:07:14 like if you see one earlier on from a summoner 19:07:43 !lg * recentish killer=executioner s=ckaux 19:07:44 945 games for * (recentish killer=executioner): 882x, 63x by nerve-wracking pain 19:07:49 !lg * recentish killer=executioner s=ckaux% 19:07:50 945 games for * (recentish killer=executioner): 882x (93.33%), 63x by nerve-wracking pain (6.67%) 19:07:58 6.66% of all kills 19:08:04 you really want to remove that amazing number? 19:09:58 for executioners it serves to make their speed slightly random 19:10:15 very good number 19:10:15 which gives some chance of outrunning them over short distances 19:10:32 elliptic: also very important for when we implement batty executioners 19:10:32 sort of like sixfirhy 19:10:45 I have no idea why mara has pain though 19:13:06 -!- halv has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 19:15:06 @??mara 19:15:06 Mara (13R) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 117-169 | AC/EV: 12/14 | Dam: 30 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, unholy, see invisible | Res: 06magic(140), 05fire++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 8024 | Sp: blink [06!sil], b.fire (3d27) [06!sil], mara summon [06!sil], sum.illusion [06!sil], pain (d17) [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 19:16:11 !lg * recentish ikiller=mara / killer=mara ckaux~~nerve 19:16:12 5/261 games for * (recentish ikiller=mara): N=5/261 (1.92%) 19:16:21 !kw recentish 19:16:21 Keyword: recentish => cv>=0.16 19:16:26 !kw recent 19:16:27 Keyword: recent => cv>=0.17 19:16:28 heh 19:17:07 I mean, obviously just removing pain from mara would be a buff, and I don't think mara needs that 19:17:09 !kw ancient 19:17:09 No keyword 'ancient' 19:17:19 !kw recentishish 19:17:20 No keyword 'recentishish' 19:17:23 !kw recentishish cv>=0.15 19:17:24 joke: replace it with a cantrip 19:17:24 Defined keyword: recentishish => cv>=0.15 19:20:09 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 19:20:21 is there a way with github to, say, take crawl/master, compare it to crawl/0.14, accept and reject individual differences, then try that new blend? 19:20:40 PR seems to want to just do every single change in one big overwrite 19:22:19 I don't think so? github's rather limited, you would need to do it locally with git cherry-pick (and I don't know if there are any nice tools for that) 19:22:19 geekosaur: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 19:22:25 o.O 19:22:33 haha 19:23:10 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:28:20 if you tried to do that you would be swamped with merge conflicts pretty quickly anyway 19:30:36 I hope that message to geekosaur is some kind of taunt from the mysterious irc user known as APPLEDEVELOPMENT 19:30:56 (1/1) PleasingFungus said (1h 15m 39s ago): you may be amused to hear the cause of a (non-crawl-related) xcode crash that i just tracked down: whoever's making os x packages for sdl2 isn't signing them correctly, causing xcode to die when it runs a program linked against it 19:30:57 "We have your signing keys. We are not giving them back" 19:31:10 gammafunk: surprisingly close! 19:31:48 hrm, os x packages for sdl2? 19:31:49 maybe the biggest irony here is that, around the time sequell says that was sent, I was diagnosing someone's signing key problem elsewhere that turns out to be a kernel bug 19:32:00 as in official ones from apple included in the os? 19:32:03 the crash is completely silent, and tracking down the logs only finds a completely generic 'dereferenced pointer into someone else's memory' error 19:32:12 not from apple, presumably from the sdl2 project 19:32:15 ^ 19:32:17 ah 19:32:22 yeah right, they have those as a download 19:32:32 if only i'd built my own... 19:32:33 I recall using those for SDL1 at some point 19:32:58 right there was a thing in the sdl1 submodule saying that it was patched relative to the original 19:33:27 I recall grunt trying to figure out if he needed to forward-port the patch for an sdl1 update, before deciding to go sdl2 instead 19:33:44 ah, the glory days of the hasted patch executioner 19:33:52 may they return to us some day soon... 19:34:40 i have faith. 19:34:58 otoh I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one being run over roughshod by apple... 19:36:26 (you'd think they'd be a little more respectful considering I'm pushing $employer to start managing their MDP certs properly instead of the half-assed stuff they currently do) 19:36:59 i'd been baffled by that crash for the last three months or so. very hard to search for info on... 19:39:22 if you set $EMPLOYER in your environment, is everything you do in your terminal work? 19:40:00 * geekosaur actually has employer stuff firewalled off in its own little network 19:45:31 ??dgl[4 19:45:32 dgl[4/4]: ansible version in development by Mattias at https://github.com/mattias/ansible_playbook_webtiles 19:45:47 Mattias, going to try to spin something up now 19:50:09 gammafunk: it looks like i'm not *qute* going to hit that 50k first-rune milestone this game 19:50:20 50k? 19:50:26 you mean first rune in 50k? 19:50:35 !lm . rune 19:50:36 613. [2016-05-21 23:26:48] gammafunk the Convoker (L14 DESu of Sif Muna) found a decaying rune of Zot on turn 13868. (Swamp:4) 19:50:56 wasn't really close to my best swamp at all 19:50:56 but was like 1.2k, decent enough 19:50:56 i do mean that. it has been pretty comically slow 19:51:06 ah, yeah 19:51:09 hrm 19:51:11 !lm amalloy 19:51:12 Fe usually is 19:51:12 7236. [2016-05-21 19:25:54] amalloy the Nimble (L12 FeSu of Xom) reached level 2 of the Orcish Mines on turn 35746. (Orc:2) 19:51:16 well 19:51:22 su is really fast turncount 19:51:29 no deaths yet, despite xom setting my str to -1 for a while 19:51:30 but that's su^sif and most importantly not xom I guess 19:51:56 !lm . rune urune=1 x=avg(turns) su 19:51:57 53 milestones for gammafunk (rune urune=1 su): avg(turn)=10947.25 19:52:10 !lm . rune urune=1 x=avg(turns) s=cls gfspeed 19:52:11 117 milestones for gammafunk (rune urune=1 gfspeed): 51x Summoner [10158.55], 37x Ice Elementalist [14771.11], 27x Berserker [9492.37], Fighter [30847], Gladiator [28213] 19:52:33 !lm . rune urune=1 x=avg(turns) s=cls !gfspeed o=-avg(turns) 19:52:34 72 milestones for gammafunk (rune urune=1 !gfspeed): 2x Summoner [31059], 6x Skald [35963.33], Healer [36697], 2x Assassin [39444], 2x Wizard [39611], 5x Enchanter [41390.6], 2x Gladiator [41793.5], 3x Monk [42433.33], 3x Warper [42648], 2x Venom Mage [42959], 2x Air Elementalist [43119], 4x Artificer [45156.75], 3x Abyssal Knight [46569.33], 2x Wanderer [46873], 2x Arcane Marksman [47301], 3x Con... 19:52:52 31k is pre slow though, I guess all the autoexplore in general does a lot 19:53:11 !lm amalloy rune urune=1 x=avg(turns) s=cls o=-avg(turns) 19:53:12 76 milestones for amalloy (rune urune=1): Warper [34260], Fire Elementalist [34332], 4x Fighter [34651.25], 3x Monk [35197.67], 3x Berserker [36258.33], Gladiator [36679], 2x Abyssal Knight [37957.5], 3x Transmuter [39369], 6x Artificer [39503.17], 4x Summoner [39991], 5x Assassin [41547.6], 3x Wanderer [42011.67], 3x Necromancer [42335.67], 4x Earth Elementalist [44944.25], 4x Enchanter [45940.75... 19:53:33 lol @ all those classes that are faster than Be for amalloy 19:53:56 you'll love that Wr game 19:54:05 !lg . wr won 19:54:06 1. amalloy the Tortoise (L27 NaWr of Cheibriados), escaped with the Orb and 5 runes on 2015-05-18 02:42:04, with 3191950 points after 72489 turns and 12:04:36. 19:54:13 !lm . rune urune=1 x=avg(turns) s=cls !gfspeed o=-avg(turns) 19:54:14 25 milestones for nikheizen (rune urune=1 !gfspeed): Conjurer [13555], Monk [24312], 2x Wanderer [24371], Chaos Knight [24704], Summoner [28354], Berserker [31422], 3x Arcane Marksman [31801.67], Skald [31837], Gladiator [34311], Venom Mage [34442], Transmuter [36278], 4x Hunter [37539.75], Air Elementalist [37552], Fighter [37726], Artificer [37882], 2x Earth Elementalist [43427], Fire Elementali... 19:54:18 yeah chei is usually very good for turns 19:54:30 you kill enemies in fewer turns 19:54:40 and you get a lot of regen as you walk 19:54:45 which means less resting turns 19:54:59 !lm amalloy rune urune=1 x=avg(turns) s=god o=-avg(turns) 19:55:00 76 milestones for amalloy (rune urune=1): Beogh [31436], 5x Trog [35330], 4x Makhleb [35831.25], 4x Qazlal [36058.25], Yredelemnul [37501], 2x Lugonu [37957.5], 7x Cheibriados [40232.57], 3x Jiyva [42270], The Shining One [42466], 3x Dithmenos [42801], 4x Zin [44021.75], 8x Ashenzari [44065.5], 7x Okawaru [44229.86], 3x Vehumet [44526.33], 2x Kikubaaqudgha [44825.5], Hepliaklqana [44840], 5x Ru [4... 19:55:04 beogh.... 19:55:24 !lm . rune urune=1 x=avg(turns) s=god o=-avg(turns) !gfspeed 19:55:25 72 milestones for gammafunk (rune urune=1 !gfspeed): 2x Jiyva [24409.5], 2x Makhleb [31233], 6x Xom [35963.33], 3x Pakellas [36520.33], Elyvilon [36697], 2x Ru [36848], Kikubaaqudgha [37722], 3x Qazlal [39928.33], 2x Cheibriados [40494], 3x Beogh [43652.33], 2x Trog [44583], 6x Sif Muna [45499.67], 4x Dithmenos [46500], 3x Lugonu [46569.33], 2x Fedhas [46894.5], 3x Zin [47324.67], 4x Yredelemnul [... 19:55:35 you and i live in different worlds 19:56:07 I live in the world you get get runes fast bro 19:56:39 !lm . rune urune=1 x=avg(turns) s=god o=-avg(turns) gfspeed 19:56:40 117 milestones for gammafunk (rune urune=1 gfspeed): 28x Trog [10160.96], 88x Sif Muna [12097.92], Elyvilon [30847] 19:56:54 10k trog is pretty awful 19:58:13 !lm . rune urune=1 x=avg(turns) s=god o=-avg(turns) 19:58:15 241 milestones for minmay (rune urune=1): Pakellas [32088], Yredelemnul [38551], Fedhas [42446], 3x Lugonu [49451], 88x Trog [51870.31], 13x Okawaru [54183.92], 4x Xom [60502], 43x [70446.4], 2x Kikubaaqudgha [74548], 25x Vehumet [76054.6], 60x Sif Muna [112523.15] 19:58:54 100k average for sif, good mummy 19:59:37 New branch created: weaponwarn (2 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/weaponwarn 19:59:37 03PleasingFungus02 07[weaponwarn] * 0.19-a0-167-g09c3ff4: List all branded weapons for newly seen enemies 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 59+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/09c3ff4c478b 19:59:37 03PleasingFungus02 07[weaponwarn] * 0.19-a0-168-geb8b5d0: Default force_mores for distortion weapons 10(26 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eb8b5d0777fd 19:59:47 ^ feedback welcomed 19:59:57 oh thank god 20:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:32 kinda weird to have a default force_more on distortion but not chaos though 20:00:47 sure, i can toss chaos in 20:01:12 it'd also be nice to warn for holy wrath for undead/ds, flaming for mummies, and elec for lower level chars maybe 20:01:19 not sure how to set that up 20:01:56 elec is probably always valid, unless you want to make checks for low hp races/resists 20:02:01 which you probably dont 20:02:04 also the messaging is a little verbose; each monster gets its own sentence, so e.g. entering v:5 can get you half a dozen sentences (though fewer lines, since they stack) 20:02:22 oh, my objection isn't that chaos is too dangerous; it's that chaos can do exactly the same things as distortion, so if you are warning for distortion surely you should warn for chaos 20:02:41 There is a vault guard wielding a halberd of flaming. There is a vault guard wielding a greatsword of freezing. etc etc 20:03:00 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:05:31 minmay: do *you* have any opinion on default force_mores for elec / other brands? 20:06:13 -!- OrphineM has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:11:43 no, except "if you warn for one brand, and another brand can do the exact same things, you should probably warn for the another brand too" 20:12:05 I have force_mores on all brands but I would not advance that as the default 20:12:09 fair! 20:14:09 hrm, what are the odds of chaos causing banishment? 20:14:33 ??chaos 20:14:33 chaos brand[1/18]: For you, it applies a random brand effect, or can: clone, polymorph, berserk, heal, haste, invis, slow, paralyse, petrify or cause a random miscast. Against you, can torment. Associated with Xom and wielded by Crazy Yiuf (always) and Psyche (sometimes). Chaos Knights start with a chaos branded weapon. 20:14:40 htm 20:15:51 does anyone know if jiyva stat-shuffling has been changed since EV penalties on armours were changed to encumbrance ratings, along with the accompanying mechanics? 20:16:01 there does not seem to be any information about how it works anywhere 20:17:16 -!- PsiRedEye23 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:17:36 -!- eb_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:17:44 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21:20 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:21:27 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:21:46 rc files simply execute in order like BASIC right? 20:22:06 so if you set a general case early, and a specific case later, it's supposed to override? 20:22:33 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:23:16 like for menu colors 20:25:51 fixit_friend: read the ??rcfile help about ordered lists 20:25:54 ??rcfile 20:25:55 rcfile[1/4]: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/docs/options_guide.txt 20:26:09 G-Flex: the relevant code was last tweaked around 2011 20:26:27 don't know when the evp/er changes were made 20:26:42 I would hope it was tweaked after the EVP/ER change 20:26:49 considering it relied on assumptions regarding that 20:26:54 probably! 20:27:25 reason I ask is because I don't want to make irreversible changes in-game that turn out to be screwed up by weird mechanics 20:27:58 actually, the function must have changed since it queried the EVP of your armour 20:28:04 and that's ER now, so the numbers are completely different 20:28:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:28:16 I remember looking at the function a long time ago, I would again if I knew where to get at it 20:28:17 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:28:51 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 20:29:06 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Client Quit] 20:34:04 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:34:24 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:36:49 -!- eb_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:37:54 !source jiyva_stat_action 20:37:54 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/player-stats.cc#l205 20:37:58 G-Flex: ^ 20:39:00 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:40:06 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:41:01 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:42:58 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:44:26 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 20:44:27 The build has errored. (weaponwarn - eb8b5d0 #5527 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/131998097 20:44:27 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 20:49:22 "This considers armour evp" well this is off to a great start 20:49:56 what does unadjusted_body_armour_penalty() actually return these days? 20:50:52 !lm . br.enter=slime 20:50:53 85. [2016-05-22 00:34:21] gammafunk the Convoker (L15 DESu of Sif Muna) entered the Pits of Slime on turn 16248. (Lair:7) 20:50:54 !lm . rune 20:51:02 615. [2016-05-22 00:47:22] gammafunk the Convoker (L15 DESu of Sif Muna) found a slimy rune of Zot on turn 16971. (Slime:6) 20:51:02 730, eh 20:51:40 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 20:51:47 !source unadjusted_body_armour_penalty 20:51:47 1/2. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/monster.h#l510 20:52:13 !source unadjusted_body_armour_penalty 2 20:52:14 2/2. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/player.cc#l5812 20:52:34 wow, that returns comment is really misleading 20:52:36 shame on past me 20:52:36 thanks 20:53:12 although I still have no idea what that return value means in relation to values given in-game 20:55:03 !source Armour_prop 20:55:04 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/itemprop.cc#l69 20:55:20 ??leather armour 20:55:20 leather armour[1/1]: 3AC, 4ER. 20:55:27 the return value is the value given in-game 20:55:31 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:55:46 oh, okay 20:56:11 so with jiyva, for example, your target str will be the ER, at minimum, and depending on your skills will likely be something higher 20:56:59 -!- MarvinPA has left ##crawl-dev 20:57:32 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:57:33 -!- Franz__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:59:13 -!- fixit_friend has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:08:20 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:09:39 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 21:10:48 -!- fixit_friend has joined ##crawl-dev 21:13:44 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:15:00 snaplasher vine (09w) | Spd: 13 (07stationary) | HD: 12 | HP: 19-28 | AC/EV: 4/7 | Dam: 003(constrict), 14 | 03plant, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(40), 03poison, 12drown, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 0 | Sz: Large | Int: brainless. 21:15:00 %?? snaplasher vine 21:15:10 fedhas doesn't let me shoot through these guys 21:15:13 D: 21:17:07 gammafunk: IMO go win the nchoice 21:17:13 !nchoice 21:17:15 Time for a new nchoice! It will appear shortly on the tournament website (if it hasn't yet). Type "=nemelex XXXX" to update !nchoice with the new combo, where XXXX should be replaced by the new combo. 21:17:23 YakYak? 21:17:31 basically 21:17:33 lol 21:17:40 =nemelex HESu 21:17:42 Defined keyword: nchoice => OgAE|GhEE|huen|FoIE|DDSu|DEAM|VpVM|KoMo|OpSk|MfFE|HEEn|MuEE|sphu|TeTm|HaWz|CeNe|FeWr|CeAr|VSCj|FoVM|OgSu|GhAK|GrAM|KoCj|VpTm|MiCj|HaNe|SpFE|DEWn|TeEn|HOAE|TrSk|ophu|DrAM|DEGl|HESu 21:17:55 !lm . alive 21:17:56 65. [2016-05-22 01:08:30] gammafunk the Demonologist (L15 DESu of Sif Muna) killed Kirke on turn 18074. (D:14) 21:17:58 such a shame 21:18:02 can't be diverted 21:18:32 i'm done with t. i have accomplished all i set out to 21:18:39 which is to say: splat repeatedly 21:18:46 100% death rate in extended? 21:18:55 oh yeah. 21:19:22 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:19:22 I've made similar accomplishments with my t su speedruns 21:20:08 it's good to have one t where you get a bunch of wins, at least 21:20:13 this was that for me 21:20:59 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals 21:21:00 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:21:01 !time 21:21:02 Time: May 22, 2016, 01:21:01 AM, UTC. The 2016 0.18 tournament ends in 18 hours, 38 minutes and 58 seconds. 21:21:32 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:21:40 !lg . t0.17 / won 21:21:41 No games for PleasingFungus (t0.17). 21:21:43 !lg . t0.16 / won 21:21:44 2/3 games for PleasingFungus (t0.16): N=2/3 (66.67%) 21:21:53 huh 21:21:53 !lg . t0.15 / won 21:21:53 2/38 games for PleasingFungus (t0.15): N=2/38 (5.26%) 21:21:55 !lg . t0.14 / won 21:21:56 5/33 games for PleasingFungus (t0.14): N=5/33 (15.15%) 21:22:03 all downhill from those heady days... 21:23:20 !lg . t won s=char 21:23:21 6 games for gammafunk (t won): DEEn, CeAr, SpHu, HECK, VSCj, KoMo 21:23:24 !oneandwon 21:23:27 Chars won first try for gammafunk: CeAr, SpHu, VpSu, DrNe, KoMo, TrWr, DDGl, VSCj, GhMo, KoEn, DrMo, HuSu 21:23:40 yeah ok, streak of 4 nem choices is cool 21:23:48 not bad 21:23:49 really had DEAM too, but I messed that up 21:27:19 oh 21:27:24 did you see the weapon warning thing i put up 21:28:08 me? yeah announcing brands? I didn't look at it, but when I saw it, my eyeteeth formed a toothy grin 21:28:21 was wondering if you had opinions on the default brands to force_more for 21:28:27 currently it's distort/chaos 21:28:28 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:28:59 I personally do disto/chaos/elec 21:29:11 i was undecided about elec 21:29:11 but you could argue for pain and drain as well 21:30:30 hrm. gonna keep the list relatively slim for now 21:30:36 and revisit it later in 0.19 21:31:19 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-171-gba1c246: List all branded weapons for newly seen enemies 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 59+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ba1c2460e43d 21:31:19 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-172-g3b1235c: Default force_mores for distortion & chaos weapons 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3b1235c94405 21:31:43 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:31:50 technically that could've waited until after t, i guess 21:32:06 !time 21:32:07 Time: May 22, 2016, 01:32:06 AM, UTC. The 2016 0.18 tournament ends in 18 hours, 27 minutes and 53 seconds. 21:32:36 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:32:47 !oneandwon 21:32:53 Chars won first try for wheals: NaNe, TeSk, GrVM 21:33:14 a wheals oneandwon would be pretty entertaining to watch, I bet 21:34:02 !oneandwon 21:34:07 Chars won first try for minmay: DgFi, DgMo, NaNe, HuHu, MfAs, DDNe, DgEE, DsWn, GrBe, HEVM, DjBe, CeBe, DsGl, OgAK, OpAs, DgHu, GhWr, FoAE, MuFE, DDBe, VSSk, DsCj, HOBe 21:34:18 my tesk guide: get a big-ass axe, win 21:34:25 go trog first 21:34:38 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:34:50 did you ever cast a spell? 21:35:09 !log . tesk 21:35:10 1. wheals, XL27 TeSk, T:105942: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/wheals/morgue-wheals-20140310-215651.txt 21:35:23 infusion 17 times! 21:37:09 giving up that kind of power for trog...!? 21:44:46 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 21:44:53 !lg dpeg 21:44:54 2536. dpeg the Conqueror (L27 OgCK of Xom), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2016-05-22 00:25:16, with 2031562 points after 91739 turns and 6:46:58. 21:45:42 !seen PleasingFungus 21:45:42 I last saw PleasingFungus at Sun May 22 01:37:08 2016 UTC (8m 34s ago) saying 'giving up that kind of power for trog...!?' on ##crawl-dev. 21:45:51 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 21:45:52 PleasingFungus: awesome commits, you rock! 21:45:59 :) 21:46:04 can't wait to see what it breaks 21:46:25 just finishing my last Ogre game, I should say: you large rock! :) 21:46:51 http://pastie.org/10847283 not sure whats going on here, hotkeys is a vector of a menu entry 21:47:08 or oh, do i need to iterate through the hotkeys vector 21:47:39 for (int i : entry) { keysused.pushback(i) } 21:48:46 the large rock reflects off an invisible shield around PlesaingFungus! 21:48:55 -!- PleasingFungus is now known as PlesaingFungus 21:49:00 retroactively correct 21:49:05 ! 21:49:15 !seen Lasty 21:49:15 I last saw Lasty at Fri May 20 05:51:56 2016 UTC (1d 19h 57m 19s ago) joining the channel. 21:49:18 yeah that was it 21:49:31 sometimes just looking at it on another screen helps with the aha moment 21:49:37 this week I met the first crawl dev irl (discounting rob/by and jpeg who are from my city) 21:50:05 cool! who was it? 21:50:10 Lasty! 21:50:16 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:50:26 PlesaingFungus: make sure to drop me a line when you're in Europe 21:51:28 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:53:02 sure! I was thinking of visiting germany at some point, though no specific plans 21:53:24 possibly some kind of germany-czechia-austria arc 21:53:31 cool, this place is just like the paradise of the Bible =) 21:53:34 er 21:53:47 i had no idea. 21:53:49 * dpeg has a hunch that PlesaingFungus likes beer (these are beer countries) 21:53:57 i like castles! 21:54:07 big castle fan <- 21:54:33 oh yes, that too: you can drink lotsa beer in old castles 21:55:04 haha 21:55:29 * dpeg did a castle excursion when aged 8 or 9: each day a new castle, it was awesome and impressed me very much 21:55:45 sounds intensely sweet 21:56:08 -!- fixit_friend has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:56:11 -!- friendfixit has joined ##crawl-dev 21:58:18 my favorite part of my trip to istanbul was probably visiting all the old castles 21:58:51 Rumelihisarı, Thoatcutter, built by the Conquerer himself as part of the Siege of Constantinople in 1452! 21:59:03 gorgeous place. very peaceful 21:59:32 punpun (L27 TeFE) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 17301 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=69 mid=0 (Abyss:2) 21:59:50 ruh roh 21:59:59 sounds like some real bogosity, to me 22:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:33 &versions 0.18 22:00:38 CAO: 0.18.1-8-gdd0e5ea, CBRO: 0.18.1-8-gdd0e5ea, CDO: 0.18.1-8-gdd0e5ea, CPO: 0.18.1-1-g2f07953, CSZO: none, CUE: 0.18.1-8-gdd0e5ea, CWZ: 0.18.1-1-g2f07953, CXC: 0.18.1-8-gdd0e5ea, LLD: 0.18.1-6-gd335043 22:01:34 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:02:53 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: Reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold, BYE] 22:04:09 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:04:19 punpun (L27 TeFE) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 17140 points to raiju mindex=20 mid=17142 (Abyss:2) 22:05:10 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:09:07 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-172-g3b1235c (34) 22:12:03 -!- SERQ has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:14:47 !learn add DEAD_MONSTER punpun (L27 TeFE) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 17301 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=69 mid=0 (Abyss:2) 22:14:47 dead monster[10/10]: punpun (L27 TeFE) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 17301 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=69 mid=0 (Abyss:2) 22:15:38 PlesaingFungus, the cathedral of bishops in trier is awesome, put that on your list 22:15:55 will do, ty! 22:16:34 !lg * recent sewer killer=crocodile 22:16:35 397. haldagan the Shield-Bearer (L6 OpFi), slain by a crocodile in Sewer (sewer_the_crocodile) on 2016-05-21 16:36:03, with 226 points after 2745 turns and 0:05:38. 22:16:37 @??crocodile 22:16:37 crocodile (07t) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 5 | HP: 23-32 | AC/EV: 4/10 | Dam: 20 | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(20), 12drown | XP: 106 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 22:17:02 hrm 22:17:13 !lg * recent sewer s=killer 22:17:15 4245 games for * (recent sewer): 868x a river rat, 610x a giant frog, 397x a crocodile, 372x Purgy, 321x, 256x a big kobold, 238x an adder, 151x a kobold, 67x a ball python, 62x a rat, 47x Grinder, 46x a sickly siren, 42x a worm, 28x a drowned soul, 27x an ooze, 27x a giant gecko, 22x an ufetubus, 21x a shadow imp, 19x a giant newt, 17x kobold, 9x a giant cockroach, 9x a jackal, 8x a bat, 6x a whi... 22:17:21 gammafunk: is this the correct way to play HESu? 22:17:22 !lm 22:17:23 45896. [2016-05-22 02:10:06] elliptic the Slicer (L8 HESu of Ru) sacrificed love on turn 5487. (D:7) 22:17:38 yes, since clearly the player doesn't know what the emotion means 22:17:43 lmao 22:17:59 http://pastie.org/10847307 im having a brainfart as to how i will get hotkeys that are not used to entries that don't have a hotkey assigned 22:17:59 @??giant frog 22:17:59 giant frog (03F) | Spd: 15 (swim: 60%) | HD: 4 | HP: 18-26 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 9 | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(20), 12drown | XP: 90 | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 22:18:17 down at line 23 22:19:34 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:19:43 punpun (L27 TeFE) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 18016 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=26 mid=0 (Abyss:3) 22:20:01 also, the keysused vector is getting filled with multiple 33's because thats an additional hotkey for potions 22:23:26 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 22:24:29 -!- aredel has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:24:49 punpun (L27 TeFE) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 18367 points to ice beast mindex=74 mid=18370 (Abyss:3) 22:24:51 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 22:25:49 punpun (L27 TeFE) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 18367 points to orc sorcerer mindex=9 mid=18388 (Abyss:4) 22:26:45 sif gift just as I cast an epic call summon dragons onto firewood (such are the contents of V:5 to me): Necromutation 22:27:03 players who sac love will never know this kind of glory 22:28:07 gammafunk: why would anyone sac love with sif around 22:28:21 good question 22:29:21 -!- Sicily has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:29:36 gammafunk: http://i.imgur.com/9rVy9lu.jpg 22:30:04 I really want to know what book section that was 22:30:19 looks like cryllic writing? 22:30:36 huh, i think one of those books is about versaille 22:30:37 *cyrillic 22:30:54 translit VERSALE 22:31:15 PlesaingFungus: have you spoken with jacquesderrida in webtiles chat? 22:31:28 by far the best russian tutor in webtiles imo 22:32:05 i haven't since i started doing the russian course 22:32:09 haven't seen him around in a while 22:32:59 oh man, i was right. i'm the best. 22:33:45 ??cigotuvi's degeneration 22:33:45 I don't have a page labeled cigotuvi's_degeneration in my learndb. 22:33:54 what was that monster called? 22:35:26 pulsating lumps... 22:37:55 -!- PsiRedEye23 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:38:40 -!- PsiRedEye23 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:40:30 -!- PlesaingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 46.0.1/20160502172042]] 22:46:53 punpun (L27 TeFE) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 19222 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=23 mid=0 (Abyss:3) 22:47:31 -!- Dracunos72 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:51:43 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:57:55 -!- PsiRedEye23 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:58:36 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 22:58:42 ?/bogosity 22:58:42 Matching entries (1): dead_monster[10]: punpun (L27 TeFE) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 17301 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=69 mid=0 (Abyss:2) 22:58:49 heh 22:59:27 looking at map_knowledge.cc 22:59:33 passive mapping is 8% per? 22:59:41 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:19 punpun (L27 TeFE) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 19936 points to smoke demon mindex=13 mid=19961 (Abyss:3) 23:04:55 -!- breadbocks has quit [] 23:06:31 punpun (L27 TeFE) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 20089 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=24 mid=0 (Abyss:3) 23:08:25 -!- Jessika has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:09:56 I'm curious, what's the issue with that error? 23:10:19 obviously it's related to the bogosity levels in that particular game 23:11:34 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:11:42 the code can't believe a tengu made it to xl27 23:11:54 abyss seems to throw those periodically 23:12:16 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:12:32 the wiki uses vague terms like the game does: "I know what it is but I'm not telliiiiing, teehee" 23:12:51 only source of relec this game, a - [Crypt:3] the +6 lightning scales {run, rElec} 23:13:07 1learn tengu_unreasons the code can't believe a tengu made it to xl27 23:13:34 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:13:51 obviously wizmode yourself into a naga >.> 23:16:13 gammafunk, are you doing the nchoice? 23:16:22 elliptic has it covered 23:16:26 I had already started desu 23:16:30 and am still going 23:16:32 :O 23:16:40 but not streaming... 23:16:46 you're not? 23:16:48 get on it imo 23:17:04 I'm in the middle of miae 23:17:13 and taking a break to watch your SWEET V:5 HIGHLIGHT 23:17:21 man, what an exciting canadian stream that would be! 23:17:27 well, actually I'm watching the polyphemus highlight 23:17:31 goes perfectly with Dime's doom speedruns 23:18:10 I had another fight kind of like that with poly some runs later 23:18:17 and he was a real hassle that musu as well 23:18:26 just popped up at the worst time, throwing death yaks at me 23:18:45 no reason I should have survived that shoals really, kind of glad the run had an abrupt end in vaults 23:29:05 alright now I'm watching V:5 23:30:21 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:31:08 -!- wheals_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:33:06 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:45:30 -!- destrovel has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:46:01 punpun (L27 TeFE) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 22349 points to thrashing horror mindex=18 mid=22370 (Abyss:2) 23:49:14 -!- PlesaingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:49:36 -!- PlesaingFungus is now known as PleasingFungus 23:53:43 !seen lasty 23:53:43 I last saw Lasty at Fri May 20 05:51:56 2016 UTC (1d 22h 1m 47s ago) joining the channel. 23:53:46 hm 23:53:51 !seen lasty_ 23:53:51 I last saw Lasty_ at Sun May 22 00:03:00 2016 UTC (3h 50m 51s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: Leaving.'. 23:55:04 !tell lasty are you planning to squash your u commits? (to merge after t) 23:55:05 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let lasty know. 23:55:13 fr: more single-letter acronyms 23:57:48 http://i.imgur.com/KAiZKLx.png cbro server stats 23:57:56 wonder what the missing parts on the graphs mean 23:58:15 also interesting that it shows CPU spikes > 4 23:58:16 that's when the Others attacked. 23:58:26 which would definitely cause bad game lag 23:58:30 ^vps 23:58:30 CBRO disk usage=67% | RAM usage=44% | uptime/CPU= 23:58:29 up 555 days, 9:17, 7 users, load average: 2.20, 1.89, 1.62 23:58:36 never shows more than 3.5 usually 23:58:37 555 days...! 23:58:38 and usually <2 23:58:56 maybe I should reboot it 23:59:04 what is a user? 23:59:41 should be users on the server. not players 23:59:53 my account, crawl, crawler, crawl-dev, www-data, hmm