00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:00:12 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-157-gbc558dc (34) 00:00:28 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:04:40 so what exactly is wrong with Wiglaf? I remember him being really brutal if he buffs himself up 00:04:53 does he spawn too late? is it the fact that he's a MDFi of old!Oka? 00:05:05 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:08:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:09:08 -!- Cerpin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:09:14 -!- Cerpin_ has quit [Client Quit] 00:10:15 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:14:17 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:18:02 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:18:55 -!- regret-index has joined ##crawl-dev 00:19:29 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:19:38 @??wiglaf perm_ench:haste perm_ench:might 00:19:39 Wiglaf (09g) | Spd: 15 | HD: 17 | HP: 116-158 | AC/EV: 11/6 | Dam: 45 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest | Res: 06magic(120) | XP: 1826 | Sp: might [11!AM], haste [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:19:41 @??mennas 00:19:41 Mennas (11A) | Spd: 15 | HD: 19 | HP: 125-180 | AC/EV: 15/26 | Dam: 30, 20 | 08holy, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(160), 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 08holy | XP: 7882 | Sp: mass confusion, silence, minor healing (2d9) | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:20:54 (sure, mennas doesn't spawn in poison lair roulette branches, but) 00:23:23 -!- atrodo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:23:42 true 00:23:50 could always move him a bit earlier 00:24:16 currently DEPTH: Depths:1-3, Elf:2-, Snake:2-, Spider:2-, Vaults, Crypt 00:24:45 (and mennas is DEPTH: Depths:3-, Vaults:2-, Crypt, Tomb) 00:24:51 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 00:25:15 @??agnes 00:25:15 Agnes (11i) | Spd: 18 | HD: 11 | HP: 83-117 | AC/EV: 2/20 | Dam: 30 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 06magic(100) | XP: 2143 | Sz: little | Int: human. 00:25:17 guessing he would be a bit too nasty for Lair 00:26:10 and if adjusted for lair he'd be no-para rupert 00:26:20 (with a shield) 00:28:36 drop him in lower D? 00:30:14 very narrow range of excitement here 00:30:40 could also make his weapon/armor more likely to be higher quality 00:30:46 @??orc warlord 00:30:46 orc warlord (11o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 96-131 | AC/EV: 12/7 | Dam: 32 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 1666 | Sp: battlecry [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:31:06 if he's walking around with a large shield and in CPA he tends to survive a good while 00:31:15 what about orc :v 00:31:40 rupert's on orc:$! 00:31:45 wiglaf and rupert bros! 00:31:52 pff. 00:34:04 okawaru, okawaru... oka wrath has a bunch of warriors- maybe he could travel around with a _single_ fire / frost giant? 00:34:26 -!- themonosyllabic has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:34:38 why does wiglaf need to be buffed? he is still plenty dangerous 00:34:41 bands always tend towards the large rather than just being a chance to put together differing monsters 00:34:42 Excitement Range 00:35:02 how do shields work for monsters anyway? a similar value added to their EV? 00:35:31 aren't shields in monster hands much stronger than in player hands 00:35:43 wiglaf just seems. straightforward. probably a good quality with all of the added complexity in crawl. 00:36:11 just also seems silly he's... "outclassed"? 00:36:27 what does "outclassed" mean here 00:38:00 Vaults / Depths appearances have Mennas, and even without the latter's gimmicks he's pretty close to a pre-buffed wiglaf 00:38:39 well yes mennas is stronger than wiglaf 00:38:42 and crypt 00:39:02 d:2 has ijyb but people are still scared of sigmund for some reason. (disclaimer i 500% support removing wiglaf) 00:40:59 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:41:31 and there is the referring to a removed race and an ancient version of a god and 00:41:48 * regret-index shrugs fiercely. 00:42:06 I thought that was the whole point of Wiglaf; being a MDFi of Oka that didn't get the memo that things had changed 00:42:13 which is... bad? 00:43:25 well removing him would be removing the very last vestiges of MD 00:44:30 sorry, that was directed at regret-index. I'm not sure if he's implying that's a bad thing or what. 00:45:24 it's not an inherent problem, it's just a constant dragging footnote 00:45:29 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:46:04 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:46:09 -!- argent0 has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:46:20 That's a bit grim! 00:46:27 to be clear I'm neutral on whether wiglaf should exist or not, I just think he is a somewhat strange choice of unique to talk about buffing 00:46:39 when you could be buffing someone like Norris instead :P 00:47:35 or donald 00:47:49 I forget if any conclusions were ever made on the death cultist gaining torment 00:51:58 ??norris 00:51:58 norris[1/3]: A tan, fit and thoroughly evil ex-surfer. Feeds on your intelligence, smites, paralyzes, confuses, turns invisible, heals himself, and smokes Cuban cigars. 00:52:48 imo give him the ability to ride the wave a la aquamancer water blast, as a sort of blink close 00:53:05 blinkwave 00:53:07 i liked it but i don't think anyone else did 00:53:08 wrt torment 00:53:15 !time 00:53:16 Time: May 20, 2016, 04:53:15 AM, UTC. The 2016 0.18 tournament ends in 2 days, 15 hours, 6 minutes and 44 seconds. 00:53:25 make norris a water nymph...??? 00:53:45 20:16:16 give Norris torment 20:16:20 * Grunt cackles. 20:16:22 (don't actually do that......) 00:55:12 wow, you're endorsing a grunt idea?????!??!?! 00:55:20 Grunt Idea* 00:55:37 GruntIdea(tm) 00:55:37 I sliced open v:$ from a crate suggestions 00:55:42 broken clocks 00:58:49 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:59:15 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:59:18 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 00:59:44 !learn edit norris[1] s|, heals himself|| 00:59:44 norris[1/3]: A tan, fit and thoroughly evil ex-surfer. Feeds on your intelligence, smites, paralyzes, confuses, turns invisible, and smokes Cuban cigars. 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:36 -!- destrovel has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:02:40 -!- Lasty has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:03:47

I sliced open v:$ from a crate suggestions 01:03:48

broken clocks 01:03:54 can't either one of you be considered the broken clock in this metaphor? 01:04:11 * regret-index shrugs. 01:10:31 -!- FireSight has quit [] 01:18:04 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:18:45 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-157-gbc558dc (34) 01:20:55 -!- cang has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:21:15 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:22:32 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:25:29 -!- JimmahDean has quit [] 01:27:48 -!- mibe_ is now known as mive 01:27:48 -!- mive is now known as mibe 01:28:24 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:32:22 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:33:30 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:36:19 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:36:20 The kraken flops around on dry land! 01:36:42 this is an unusual message for a vault that placed it in shallow water 01:37:18 they aren't supposed to go in shallow water, to be fair 01:37:35 yes 01:37:51 oh, while you're looking at vaults 01:37:55 can you do me a small favour? 01:38:01 actually small! 01:38:08 probably had a lot of deep water in the vault before the pool_fixup change 01:38:11 !vault volcano_village 01:38:11 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/volcano.des#l1296 01:38:28 ^ the flame generators in this can cover the entrance portal in flame 01:38:35 including on the turn you enter the portal 01:38:39 I wonder how much review is needed for this sort of matter 01:38:48 hmmm 01:39:15 a poor guy died to it. didn't really have much he could do, since two hits of the flame cloud killed him 01:40:38 walk_dist 15 01:41:16 oh, but also spread_rate 30 01:42:45 large numbers! 01:44:47 without that sheer distance the water side of the volcano is untouched, not that this is much of a problem 01:48:20 a crude solution would be to just add a door at the entrance to the cave 01:51:28 possible 01:51:49 i think i'm gonna do that, and someone else can make a superior fix 01:51:56 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 01:53:05 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:53:22 the ring "Iviplafa" (right hand) {rElec rPois rN+ Dex+3} 01:54:08 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-158-gdcc5c43: Add doors to volcano_village 10(67 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dcc5c43c5ba6 01:54:13 bug? feature? 01:54:14 I was going to say don't forget to move the known alarm trap to right before the door, but 01:54:25 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:54:28 i feel like right after is better, though i can't justify why 01:55:01 2nd door is obviously for symmetry 01:55:07 said alarm trap could _probably_ just be cut anyway 01:55:25 (and instead in the bailey we just auto-mark the player-) 01:56:00 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:56:14 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-157-gbc558dc 01:57:19 -!- docnvk has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:21 johnstein: Few things I need to know: does the doc contain all cronjobs or are some missing? For example, should update-stable run as well? In case there's a new version like 0.18.1? And then if there is anything missing in the vhost (I've added dgl-status to it, it was missing in the docs) Maybe anything else you can think of :) I'd say right now the playbook is pretty usable for a trunk webtiles server. 02:00:22 But probably only for new servers. Seems most crawl servers are too custom right now. 02:01:45 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:02:33 johnstein: And let me know if you want to test my setup ;) I got a server running but no domain pointed to it (do it locally in your hosts file to 92.43.32.77 crawl.crawl-webtiles.com) works pretty well :) 02:05:00 -!- OrphineM has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:09:01 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-158-gdcc5c43 (34) 02:09:58 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 02:10:58 That looks like the announcement log. is it supposed to be available as well? 02:11:08 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:11:12 Or does Sizzell do that automatically perhaps? 02:11:29 I believe I saw a setting for the announcement log, I guess it's the irc bot :P 02:13:09 -!- tollymain has joined ##crawl-dev 02:13:36 Mattias: ? 02:13:55 Just making sure I haven't missed anything in the automatic webtiles server setup 02:15:49 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:16:22 -!- minmay has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:20:13 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:20:15 -!- tealeaves has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:25:43 -!- CaptainFruitcake has joined ##crawl-dev 02:26:11 -!- G-Flex| has joined ##crawl-dev 02:26:34 -!- inire has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:26:34 -!- Lohengramm has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:26:43 -!- G-Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:26:44 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 46.0.1/20160502172042]] 02:26:58 -!- PsyMar has quit [Disconnected by services] 02:27:13 -!- PsyMar2 is now known as PsyMar 02:27:18 -!- lukano has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:27:20 -!- Ipsum has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:27:52 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:27:52 -!- Zekka_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:27:52 -!- jbenedetto has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:27:53 -!- CaptainFruitcake is now known as CanOfWorms 02:28:31 -!- bd- has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:28:50 -!- Lohengramm has joined ##crawl-dev 02:31:21 -!- regret-index has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:36:30 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 02:42:10 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 02:42:11 The build was broken. 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seconds] 09:55:09 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:56:25 Mattias: announcements are done by the announcement bots. aka sizzles 09:56:46 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:57:01 also I can try to test sometime. but I have no clue when I'll be free to do it. I still need to get my tourney win 09:57:21 and no I don't have to do anything for 0.18.1 09:57:32 it's on the same branch 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:06:55 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:07:01 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:10:13 -!- LexAckson__ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:11:11 amalloy_: yes 10:12:36 most players don't realize that crawl attempts to play a wilhelm scream whenever you fall down a shaft 10:13:43 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:15:03 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:19:15 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:21:03 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:21:29 ??dgl[4 10:21:30 dgl[4/4]: ansible version in development by Mattias at https://github.com/mattias/ansible_playbook_webtiles 10:27:00 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:32:37 -!- aredel has joined ##crawl-dev 10:33:33 hi, can i ask some about crashs in game? and whom can i ask about it?) 10:33:49 ??ask 10:33:50 ask[1/1]: The Ask To Ask protocol has higher latency than any known version of the Ask protocol, so feel free to just ask your question. 10:34:03 aredel: online? or local? 10:34:08 online 10:36:10 i thought that it can be from mass-trash-items on the floor (after long farm), but few people laughed and sent me to chat) 10:37:10 there is a floor item limit but the game removes items when it hits that limit 10:37:48 so quantity of items on the floor cant influence on that crashs? 10:37:51 when did this crash happen? (normally online crashes get reported inhere by the bots) 10:37:56 !crashlog 10:37:56 13494. FitzyFitz, XL15 DgHu, T:35928 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/FitzyFitz/crash-FitzyFitz-20160519-001223.txt 10:37:59 !crashlog -1 10:38:00 No milestones for -1 (crash). 10:38:03 whoops 10:38:06 !crashlog * -1 10:38:07 13494. FitzyFitz, XL15 DgHu, T:35928 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/FitzyFitz/crash-FitzyFitz-20160519-001223.txt 10:38:10 !crashlog * -2 10:38:10 13493/13494. agathos, XL5 KoBe, T:1399 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/agathos/crash-agathos-20160518-205805.txt 10:38:17 !crashlog 10:38:18 13494. FitzyFitz, XL15 DgHu, T:35928 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/FitzyFitz/crash-FitzyFitz-20160519-001223.txt 10:38:54 maybe wrong question - by "crash" i mean drop from game to lobby) 10:39:58 "your game was unexpectively closed" or something like this 10:41:21 -!- LexAckson__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:42:14 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 10:43:43 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:43:51 that's a crash, yes. usually from a signal, and that should be noted here unless it crashed again during the attempt to log and notify 10:44:27 which server were you on? 10:44:58 (...I'm not sure why I'm taking point on this even though I'm not a dev, just a packager) 10:46:05 http://crawl.lantea.net:8080/#play-dcss-0.18 i plays here 10:47:10 and sry for my english, not my native language( 10:47:14 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:50:12 -!- Dracunos7 is now known as Dracunos 10:51:14 !seen TZer0 10:51:14 I last saw TZer0 at Thu May 19 10:57:17 2016 UTC (1d 3h 53m 57s ago) saying 'yaaaay' on ##crawl. 10:51:22 hm 10:53:00 !lm aredel x=gid 10:53:01 3544. [2016-05-19 22:59:55] [game_key=aredel:cue:20160413120038S] aredel the Farming Conqueror (L27 MuFi of Gozag) found a magical rune of Zot on turn 834299. (Pan) 10:53:37 scary information. what is it?) 10:53:45 does that look like the right game? 10:53:50 yes 10:54:07 !tell TZer0 aredel is reporting crashes on cue, that aren't getting reported by lantell so presumably a double signal while reporting. game_key=aredel:cue:20160413120038S 10:54:07 geekosaur: OK, I'll let tzer0 know. 10:54:38 TZer0 is only intermittently around in my experience, and I don't think anyone else has access to cue to look at the game 10:54:49 wow, so it will tell about problem automaticaly? 10:55:23 nice service, that bot) just need to know all commands... 10:55:29 well, it's supposed to report in here when it crashes, but if it crashes again while collecting the crash log then we don't find out about it (and suggests something is *really* wrong) 10:56:36 i may try to farm more here in Coc, so it can be crash soon... 10:56:48 ok if it will report - ill do that crash)) 10:57:39 -!- mzmz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:59:50 yeay! "Unfortunately your game ended unexpectedly. Close" 11:00:00 !crashlog 11:00:01 13494. FitzyFitz, XL15 DgHu, T:35928 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/FitzyFitz/crash-FitzyFitz-20160519-001223.txt 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:30 if you can connect to cue via console, go to A)dvanced options > B)ackup 11:00:39 ??cue 11:00:39 cue[1/4]: European Crawl server, located in Germany. http://underhound.eu:8080/ or underhound.eu, port 22, username: terminal, key: http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key.ppk See {putty} for Windows users. Runs 0.10-0.17 and trunk (DCSS, Zot, Sprint, Tut). Formely known as CLAN. 11:04:22 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:10:31 -!- NotKat has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:11:17 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:11:23 -!- Dracunos7 is now known as Dracunos 11:17:31 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:19:56 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 11:20:57 -!- eliotn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:24:36 -!- lukano has quit [Quit: brb] 11:25:21 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:26:28 -!- nezrel has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:28:16 lair:2 and i've already killed 9 spiny frogs 11:28:16 somehow 11:31:24 -!- oxeimon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:32:39 !lg n1 lair:2 gr x=ac 11:32:40 1. [ac=22] n1000 the Cleaver (L11 GrGl of The Shining One), slain by a swamp worm (kmap: worms_lemuel) on Lair:2 on 2016-05-20 02:45:17, with 12325 points after 9268 turns and 0:24:06. 11:33:30 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:35:59 why does your ghost torment me so ;-; 11:42:06 -!- ldf_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:43:00 -!- jefus- has joined ##crawl-dev 11:43:55 -!- breadbocks has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:44:04 !messages 11:44:05 (1/1) geekosaur said (49m 57s ago): aredel is reporting crashes on cue, that aren't getting reported by lantell so presumably a double signal while reporting. game_key=aredel:cue:20160413120038S 11:44:11 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:44:35 -!- oxeimon1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:45:13 geekosaur: I can try to move the game-file away 11:45:17 and provide it for inspection 11:45:48 I did ask them to make a save backup via console but I don't think they did 11:46:37 http://underhound.eu:81/aredel.cs 11:46:43 does this help? 11:47:09 -!- jeefus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:47:37 I hve something of a poor record with debugging these things, alas. I was just the only one around making any sense at the time >.> 11:49:00 !tell aredel I've moved your game away from the 0.18-save folder for now, it is currently available here: http://underhound.eu:81/aredel.cs and we'll try to get someone to look at it 11:49:01 TZer0: OK, I'll let aredel know. 11:50:37 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:50:48 who would be able to take a look at this? 11:50:52 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:51:53 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:04 PleasingFungus: hey, do you want to debug a crash? :D 11:52:53 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:54:22 do i have to 11:54:48 YEEEES 11:54:51 :D 11:54:52 Just kidding 11:56:40 !crashlog tzer0 11:56:41 7. TZer0, XL9 MfIE, T:8341 (milestone): http://underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue/TZer0/crash-TZer0-20141013-233103.txt 11:56:48 probably not that 11:58:21 http://underhound.eu:81/aredel.cs 11:58:36 0.18. 11:59:20 tell me about the cras 11:59:30 we have nothing 11:59:35 aredel: launches the game 11:59:40 the game closes, bot reports nothing 12:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:02 ok 12:00:06 let me look. 12:00:09 mhm 12:00:12 Thanks 12:04:03 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:05:15 ERR: ASSERT(num_visits == 0 && levels_seen == 0 || num_visits > 0 && levels_seen > 0) in 'place-info.cc' at line 30 failed. 12:05:41 hm, hm, hm 12:06:27 wait disregard 12:11:27 yeah, i don't know. i can't get this save to crash. 12:11:44 it loads up fine for me. 12:11:53 ?/underhound 12:11:53 Matching entries (3): cue[1] | cue[4] | rebuild[1] 12:12:01 ??cue 12:12:02 cue[1/4]: European Crawl server, located in Germany. http://underhound.eu:8080/ or underhound.eu, port 22, username: terminal, key: http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key.ppk See {putty} for Windows users. Runs 0.10-0.17 and trunk (DCSS, Zot, Sprint, Tut). Formely known as CLAN. 12:12:36 !learn e cue[1 s/17/18 12:12:36 cue[1/4]: European Crawl server, located in Germany. http://underhound.eu:8080/ or underhound.eu, port 22, username: terminal, key: http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key.ppk See {putty} for Windows users. Runs 0.10-0.18 and trunk (DCSS, Zot, Sprint, Tut). Formely known as CLAN. 12:13:35 could try to find the server admin and ask them if there's anything in the actual output 12:13:43 the server output 12:18:36 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:20:54 "find the server admin" 12:22:44 * geekosaur trying to poke anyway... probably need a local webtiles build or sth 12:22:48 <|amethyst> !rc aredel 12:22:49 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/aredel.rc 12:22:52 <|amethyst> err 12:22:54 <|amethyst> &rc aredel 12:22:55 http://underhound.eu:81/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-0.18/aredel.rc 12:23:08 good rc 12:23:20 oh 12:23:35 someone should update the default rc, since i think i deleted one of the ancient glyph options it references 12:23:50 0.34 glyphs specifically 12:23:52 %git 029dad26e3b7d736940ce7ab9ba91e0d30642074 12:23:52 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-b1-14-g029dad2: Glyph compatibility updates 10(3 weeks ago, 4 files, 1+ 310-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/029dad26e3b7 12:24:04 hm 12:24:56 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-159-gcf3c367: Remove a reference to a removed glyph file 10(24 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cf3c36757dea 12:25:14 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.18] * 0.18.1-7-g4eb7f8c: Remove a reference to a removed glyph file 10(41 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4eb7f8c40563 12:26:47 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:24 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:17 oh good. 12:28:27 * geekosaur is trying to juggle a bit too much atm... 12:30:54 -!- jehoesefat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:34:37 * PleasingFungus throws more balls at geekosaur. 12:37:09 -!- Doll has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:37:26 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 12:39:25 -!- Nyvrem has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:42:37 03|amethyst02 07[stone_soup-0.18] * 0.18.1-8-gdd0e5ea: Avoid an uninitialized variable warning. 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dd0e5eaaca86 12:44:39 wow sry for being afk but... 12:44:39 aredel: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 12:44:47 !messages 12:44:47 (1/1) TZer0 said (55m 47s ago): I've moved your game away from the 0.18-save folder for now, it is currently available here: http://underhound.eu:81/aredel.cs and we'll try to get someone to look at it 12:45:17 ah thx, cause i was too scared while got rmpty entry) 12:45:57 -!- OrphineM has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:46:05 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:49:39 yeah, i took a look but couldn't get it to crash 12:49:50 you were saying it crashed on load, right? 12:50:17 no, while farming in any place for long time 12:50:42 for example, in Coc1, around 20-30 mins 12:50:48 after around* 12:51:22 [17:36] "your game was unexpectively closed" or something like this 12:51:45 here is that message 12:51:50 ohh 12:51:58 i was misinformed 12:52:06 is it not a crash?( 12:52:15 no that's a crash, just not the crash i was told 12:52:16 so what is it? 12:52:19 fuck if i know 12:52:22 ah i see 12:52:28 no, TZer0 misreported that it was closing immediately on load 12:52:55 <|amethyst> that message comes from the client 12:53:00 we're still trying to figure out what is happening, it's not something obvious just from the save (and it will be harder if it requires ongoing play) 12:53:17 not that hard) 12:53:31 i can bring that "crash" after 10-15 mins) 12:53:37 <|amethyst> it's theoretically possible it's something on aredel's network 12:53:55 let me put it this way: if *I* try to reproduce it, all I'll do is splat >.> 12:53:58 <|amethyst> I guess you could see if a new game plays without crashing 12:54:14 not sure that it is on network, cause i played from 2 places: ofice and home 12:54:19 <|amethyst> hm 12:54:22 and both place can crash 12:56:52 i thought about some "overusage" on server, while i killed too much monsters (too much waiting in one place), but...was told that system can remove "useless" items so... 12:57:27 <|amethyst> well, the weird thing is that there is no crash log 12:57:43 <|amethyst> which means it's probably not the game that's crashing 12:57:45 but i was always droped from game with that message 12:57:54 <|amethyst> but something else like the webtiles server 12:57:55 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:58:10 -!- maha_ has quit [Client Quit] 12:58:11 so, what can we do with such thing? 12:58:18 <|amethyst> which is what made me think the network 12:58:33 till this report i deleted all useless items from floor by self) 12:58:51 seems it worked 12:58:56 <|amethyst> hmm 12:59:40 wait till another pack of monsters, kill, repeat, when gethered too much items - aportaion in one place and G\D in deep water 12:59:59 do we even delete items that are dropped in deep water? 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:05 i'm not sure we do 13:00:12 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:00:17 i can do that but it seems too funny from the point of all people) 13:00:41 so there is unnessesery thing - delete by self? 13:01:16 i'd be startled if that was actually helpful 13:01:22 ok, i didnt know that, just it was my thought and notice 13:02:19 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 13:02:27 Stable (0.18) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18.1-8-gdd0e5ea 13:03:12 btw, what can i do with that .cs file?)))) i treat myself as novice player so...dont know such things^_^ 13:04:09 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:05:45 i mean, we have a copy of it now, so... do whatever? i mean, we don't know what's causing the crash, so it's hard to say beyond that 13:06:49 ah ok, so ...can you place that game back?)) 13:07:04 ask tzer0! 13:08:07 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-159-gcf3c367 (34) 13:08:58 Stable (0.18) branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.18.1-8-gdd0e5ea 13:09:31 hi, can you bring back to online tiles my game, which was moved temporary away from the 0.18-save folder?) i hope that problem will be solved but now when i try to play, there are only empty entry and 1 lvl))) 13:10:14 TZer0 here is that message [19:41] (1/1) TZer0 said (55m 47s ago): I've moved your game away from the 0.18-save folder for now, it is currently available here: http://underhound.eu:81/aredel.cs and we'll try to get someone to look at it 13:11:39 -!- DIonized has quit [Quit: ] 13:12:22 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 13:12:23 The build was fixed. (master - cf3c367 #5512 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/131743296 13:12:23 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 13:12:32 !source invent.h:60 13:12:33 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/invent.h#l60 13:12:58 is that considered member initialization? the stuff after the : 13:13:37 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:13:41 yes 13:14:42 yes, just C++ style instead of C style. (in C++ a struct is just a class with all members public by default) 13:16:21 so on the line before, if something calls SelItem bla = SelItem(); then bla will exist but with 0,0,nullptr. whereas SelItem bla = SelItem(a,1,item_def* thing); then bla will exist with slot, quantity, and item having values 13:16:44 yes 13:16:47 cool thanks 13:17:01 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:17:04 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:17:37 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-159-gcf3c367 (34) 13:18:36 so SelItem can actually be an object pointing to an item, it does not have to have a 'slot' or a 'quantity', as long as whatever code i'm using handles null values in those members properly? 13:18:58 or an object with a member that points to an item more apporpriately 13:21:49 <|amethyst> SelItem gets filled out by the menu 13:21:50 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:59 <|amethyst> 'slot' won't necessarily be an item slot 13:23:48 <|amethyst> InvMenu::get_selitems sets it to be the item's hotkey letter 13:24:29 !seen tzer0 13:24:29 I last saw TZer0 at Fri May 20 16:00:13 2016 UTC (1h 24m 17s ago) saying 'Thanks' on ##crawl-dev. 13:24:34 <|amethyst> and quantity will be whatever quantity the user selected (which will always be 1 for commands like quaff) 13:24:40 |amethyst, for the purpose of creating a menu that contains both floor and inv items, im thinking ill have to write a new menu function, but i remembered what you said about most of the code already existing so im trying to pick apart which functions i can use that are already available 13:25:08 <|amethyst> Naruni: SelItem is a "selected item": it's menu output rather than input 13:25:31 <|amethyst> Naruni: InvEntry is what you'd use as input 13:25:42 ok when tzer0 will arrive, he can read that message, hope it will be soon 13:26:01 <|amethyst> Naruni: and you can create one of those with just an item, regardless of where it is 13:26:12 a'la pickup menu? 13:26:13 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:26:19 does that use InvEntry? 13:27:24 <|amethyst> yeah 13:27:43 <|amethyst> KnownMenu uses its own class KnownEntry which inherits from InvEntry 13:28:19 <|amethyst> but pickup menu is probably closer to what you want anyway 13:28:37 I think ill have to copy and hack knownentry because of the problem of inventry doing it's own thing with hotkeys? 13:29:16 <|amethyst> ? 13:29:43 <|amethyst> InvEntry sets the hotkey to ' ' if the item wasn't in inventory 13:29:56 <|amethyst> then you can go in and replace that after making the entry 13:30:08 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:30:13 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:30:14 <|amethyst> you could do a subclass, but the entry itself isn't really what should be calculating the letter for floor items 13:30:29 <|amethyst> because the entry doesn't know how many other entries came before it in the menu 13:31:21 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.19-a0-160-gd53b84c: Shrike tiles 10(54 seconds ago, 2 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d53b84c634e0 13:31:38 ok so im thinking an iterator which keeps track of avail/unavail hotkeys. then in the iterator going through the floor list, i create the inventry. in the same for statement, i reassign it from ' ' to whatever the tracker says what is next available? 13:31:53 <|amethyst> yeah 13:32:07 <|amethyst> there's a loop in InvMenu::load_items that does just that 13:32:37 <|amethyst> if you are dealing with *only* floor items, you could probably use InvMenu::load_items as-is 13:32:42 <|amethyst> that's what the pickup_menu does 13:33:14 <|amethyst> but if you have both floor items and non-floor items in one menu, you'll need to keep track of which hotkeys are unused, as you said 13:33:42 |amethyst: i've got a programming question/request 13:33:49 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: ? 13:34:13 can one write a thing that will shift a batch of png files by a given offset 13:34:32 as in, i want to shift all of these images 2 pixels to the left 13:34:32 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:34:43 <|amethyst> chopping off the left 2 columns? 13:34:46 yes 13:34:47 sounds like imagemagick 13:34:55 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: doing what on the right hand side? 13:35:01 and filling the right 2 columns with full transparency 13:35:05 <|amethyst> ah 13:35:13 <|amethyst> probably can do with imagemagick, yeah 13:35:14 <|amethyst> let me see 13:36:35 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 13:36:52 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:36:55 -!- jehoesefat has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:39:01 _Bottle a giant newt corpse? 13:39:03 WELL 13:39:06 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: convert in.png -page -2,+0 -background none -flatten out.png 13:39:08 VAMPIRES CAN BOTTLE CORPSES?? 13:39:11 or can they bottle blood 13:39:12 nice adorable shrike tiles, ontoclasm 13:39:24 bottle blood 13:39:42 -!- G-Flex| is now known as G-Flex 13:40:26 we could always add "'s blood" to that message 13:40:29 |amethyst: in imagemagick? 13:40:34 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: yeah 13:40:37 okay, thanks 13:40:45 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: 'convert' is one of the imagemagick command line tools 13:40:54 hi wormcan! 13:45:45 TZer0 is online or i am misstaking? 13:46:03 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:48:07 aredel: I'm always online. 13:48:18 just not always present 13:48:46 anyway, use !message 13:48:54 I'll move the save back now 13:49:36 -!- rarewave has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 13:49:42 aredel: try now 13:49:47 !message sry, this chat seems new for me, need to get used to it) 13:49:47 You probably meant !tell, or possibly !messages. 13:50:27 ! cant ( 13:50:28 oops, meant !tell 13:50:33 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:50:35 use that if I'm not responding 13:50:46 -!- removeelyvilon_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:51:01 !tell cant enter the game - some error that i cant copie 13:51:01 aredel: OK, I'll let tzer0 know. 13:51:10 !messages 13:51:10 (1/1) aredel said (8s ago): cant enter the game - some error that i cant copie 13:51:23 if I'm not responding.. :P 13:52:00 !messages i was just trying) realy, this chat is too new for me) 13:52:00 No messages for aredel. 13:52:18 use !tell to send someone a message, !messages is for reading. 13:52:27 -!- devesine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:53:54 ah ok, and how to write with red marker? like this aredel: try now 13:54:20 that's just your chat client telling you I'm using your name 13:54:52 there are actual color codes in IRC, but using them without an extremely good reason is considered obnoxious 13:55:03 G-Flex: yeah 13:55:12 G-Flex: I don't even know how to use them in my client :D 13:55:23 the answer is usually "don't" 13:55:25 heh 13:56:45 Yeah 13:57:08 ok, now i know what it is, so can chat better) 13:57:31 so, what about my save? now it cant be read 13:57:44 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:57:54 Try to play now 13:57:57 I've moved it back 13:58:01 oh 13:58:05 wait, still a problem? 13:58:16 sec 13:58:41 yeah, can you watch it again) 13:59:18 oh, I don't think we've rebuilt it 13:59:50 hope that save is still safely can be used) 14:00:01 pleeease 14:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:11 |amethyst, in the conext of saving compute cycles, would it be better to have 2 vectors (1 defined for inv items and 1 for floor items) then populate the menu Inv items: then Floor items: (on the same page) OR one vector and run an inv check on each item to see if the entry should be created in the inv section or the floor section? 14:00:11 ok, do what you can 14:00:24 PleasingFungus: wait, we have no fix for the issue? 14:00:43 well, we have no idea what it is 14:00:45 we don't even have a diagnosis 14:00:54 i will also have to assign a hotkey to the floor items so im leaning towards the former 14:00:54 Haa.. 14:00:58 does it crash locally though? 14:01:13 nobody can reproduce (I still think we'll need a local webtiles build... and quite possibly their rc, but we can pull that) 14:01:18 supposedly, the crash appears after farming for half an hour 14:01:19 or something 14:01:24 and that 14:01:27 The new shrike tiles... respect 14:01:28 and i have other things i would rather be doing than that, like: anything 14:01:28 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW68goC4_es 14:01:33 huuuum 14:01:43 and thanks for fixing bribe 14:01:47 aredel: what happens if you play now? 14:01:56 you might poke server logs and see if anything unusual shows up 14:02:28 cant open save file 14:02:30 "" 14:02:44 permission denied 14:02:48 oh... 14:02:54 sorry, that's me being dumb 14:03:11 did you ask mother? 14:03:13 fixed. 14:03:17 G-Flex: lol 14:03:22 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:03:51