00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:04:46 it could be just me.. but.. DEWZ is just scorching right now 00:05:04 is this a bug report or feature request? 00:05:09 or, a bug request, or feature report? 00:05:15 its an gut feeling 00:05:45 duly noted! 00:05:49 <|amethyst> krator44: I think what PleasingFungus meant to say is, are you sure you're in the right channel? 00:06:01 :) 00:06:09 * krator44 shrugs 00:06:31 -!- krator44 has left ##crawl-dev 00:06:52 PleasingFungus: :) 00:07:44 this is all your fault, you know 00:08:47 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-76-g295c512 (34) 00:09:32 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:10:39 <|amethyst> on the topic of off-topic things... 00:10:47 <|amethyst> can anyone suggest some good interactive fiction from the last 10 years? 00:11:09 are decayed bog bodies a bad thing? qw treats them as "scary" until it hits XL 10 - far later than the XL at which they are encountered 00:11:11 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/bb8635034748c9b5190eed66549ef09611e2dbf2/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/ossuary.des#L687 00:11:29 !tv edsrzf ossuary 00:11:30 19. edsrzf, XL7 TeTm, T:3780 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:12:08 <|amethyst> @??decayed bog body 00:12:21 only appear in that vault 00:13:11 <|amethyst> oh, gretell is down 00:13:23 decayed bog body (03n) | Spd: 10 (swim: 140%) | HD: 3 | HP: 16-23 | AC/EV: 1/9 | Dam: 25, 412(cold:3-8) | 07undead, 10doors, amphibious, evil, spellcaster, unbreathing, 07vault | Res: 06magic(40), 05fire, 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 50 | Sp: throw frost (3d5), slow | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:13:23 <|amethyst> %??decayed bog body 00:14:11 Yermak: i can't remove the games from your profile unfortunately, blacklisting leaves the game but marks it as not-scored http://i.imgur.com/VIdLL2k.png 00:14:24 Yermak: would you like me to do this? 00:14:56 ogre (07O) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 22-33 | AC/EV: 1/6 | Dam: 17 | 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 118 | Sz: Large | Int: human. 00:14:56 <|amethyst> %??ogre 00:14:59 Yermak: the game wouldn't affect your scoring then 00:15:34 <|amethyst> fixit_friend: more damage than an ogre, which is also treated as scary until XL 10 00:15:50 |amethyst: curse your difficlt to tab complete name, but star trek TNG: a final unity is a pretty good game, great branching story. not sure whether that's 'interactive fiction' though 00:16:53 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:17:24 <|amethyst> more than 10 years old, but I did like Star Trek: 25th Anniversary :) 00:17:30 what would I do if I were a baby dev? knock 1 hd off the bog body? replace it with a mummy? halve the damage and see if it's still a threat? 00:17:50 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:17:55 what's the goal? 00:17:58 |amethyst: http://hadeanlands.com/ was neat, though i never beat it 00:18:31 chequers: yes, please, do blacklisting 00:18:31 i expected it to be more about messing around with alchemy, but it turned out to be more of a traditional interactive fiction game than i expected 00:18:32 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 00:19:22 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 00:19:25 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: Plotkin's selling his stuff now, huh? :) 00:19:36 the talos principle might be interactive fiction. it is if portal is 00:19:38 http://ifdb.tads.org/viewgame?id=g0fl99ovcrq2sqzk i read an lp of this, it seemed cool 00:19:38 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: Shade was really good 00:19:42 fixit_friend: it is absolutely not 00:19:46 fixit_friend: think zork 00:20:12 |amethyst: i'm not much of an if guy, tbh. i'm not sure i've ever beaten an IF game? 00:20:13 oh 00:20:17 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:20:29 for you, my friend, I will think of 75 zorkmids 00:20:41 there was one that was just a weird narrative. not extremely interactive 00:20:46 but i'm not really very good at puzzle games. 00:21:02 photopia 00:21:03 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I like weird narrative and not extremely interactive 00:21:04 <|amethyst> yes 00:21:08 <|amethyst> photopia is great 00:21:09 that's probably the only one i've 'beaten' 00:21:10 ya 00:21:21 oh 00:21:30 unless that one about bbses counts as interactive fiction 00:21:41 Yermak: ok, it'll take a few hours before the page is updated, but you're all good 00:21:53 digital: a love story 00:21:56 i'm rebuilding tourney data 00:22:02 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: hm 00:22:09 well, I will in ~2hrs 00:22:13 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:22:18 http://scoutshonour.com/digital/ 00:22:37 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: maybe I should just start from http://ifdb.tads.org/viewcomp?id=p6s9uem6td8rfihv and play the ones I haven't played 00:22:43 haha 00:23:04 zork tied for last 00:23:14 gotta have it on there somewhere! 00:24:04 https://lonespelunker.itch.io/no-crypto-for-old-men 00:24:14 <|amethyst> I've probably played only about a quarter of that list 00:26:17 fixit_friend: the legend is ascii, but the map is vectors...? 00:27:03 oh, ew 00:27:11 it used to be all ascii 00:27:16 wtf 00:27:41 &or unicode, utf-8, whatever 00:29:33 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:30:16 man 00:30:35 i remember someone arguing that a primary roguelike trait was having only one mode 00:30:50 not separate "in a dungeon" or "in a shop" modes, just shops in a dungeon 00:30:55 might've been the berlin interpretation 00:30:57 god bless 00:31:01 anyway, this is like the exact opposite of that. 00:31:24 yeah, I'm looking through the dev's post history 00:31:34 to see if there's a way to revert it 00:31:43 lmao 00:31:49 the game is even running slower for me 00:31:57 the vector thing is not really relevant to my point 00:31:58 with the graphics it now has 00:32:09 ah 00:32:14 every different node type has separate commands to interact with it 00:32:19 some shared, some not, but 00:32:30 there's no assumption of a common set of actions you can take 00:32:40 if that makes any sense 00:33:09 -!- Shasbat has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:33:16 scan is the worst thing 00:33:38 sorry, that's a tangent. scan isn't the worst in terms of what i was talking about a second ago, it's just a terrible ui 00:33:39 uplink 00:33:44 good IF 00:33:46 haha 00:40:23 -!- wwwn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:40:50 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: Reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold, BYE] 00:41:03 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 00:43:05 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 00:44:52 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:45:26 unknown monster: "decayed bog body" 00:45:26 %??decayed bog body hd:1 00:45:30 decayed bog body (03n) | Spd: 10 (swim: 140%) | HD: 3 | HP: 16-23 | AC/EV: 1/9 | Dam: 25, 412(cold:3-8) | 07undead, 10doors, amphibious, evil, spellcaster, unbreathing, 07vault | Res: 06magic(40), 05fire, 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 50 | Sp: throw frost (3d5), slow | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:45:30 %??decayed bog body 00:45:43 @??bog body hd:1 00:45:53 bog body (03n) | Spd: 10 (swim: 140%) | HD: 1 | HP: 5-8 | AC/EV: 1/9 | Dam: 25, 412(cold:1-2) | 07undead, 10doors, amphibious, evil, spellcaster, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(40), 05fire, 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 3 | Sp: b.cold (3d9), slow | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:45:53 %??bog body hd:1 00:49:16 New branch created: pull/263 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/263 00:49:16 03Yer mivvaggah02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/263 * 0.19-a0-77-g2e6bc24: nerf ossuary bog body 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2e6bc244bee1 00:49:46 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:52:19 -!- tAFK has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:54:18 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:55:02 bog body (03n) | Spd: 10 (swim: 140%) | HD: 2 | HP: 11-15 | AC/EV: 1/9 | Dam: 25, 412(cold:2-5) | 07undead, 10doors, amphibious, evil, spellcaster, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(40), 05fire, 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 17 | Sp: b.cold (3d10), slow | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:55:02 %??bog body hd:2 00:55:34 !lg * ossuary recent 00:55:35 3769. johnl023 the Cleaver (L8 MiBe of Trog), mangled by a decayed bog body in Ossuary (ossuary_zaba_flooded) on 2016-05-12 03:33:21, with 1612 points after 3661 turns and 0:12:11. 00:55:38 !lg * ossuary recent s=ikiller 00:55:39 3769 games for * (ossuary recent): 1469x a mummy, 434x a decayed bog body, 234x a wraith, 203x an elf zombie, 178x, 152x a centaur zombie, 131x a human zombie, 89x a scorpion, 88x a water moccasin zombie, 61x a big kobold zombie, 52x Menkaure, 45x a wyvern zombie, 43x a gnoll zombie, 34x the player character, 22x an adder zombie, 20x a wight, 17x a troll zombie, 15x a giant frog zombie, 14x a hobg... 00:55:46 mm 00:56:07 !lg * ossuary recent / ikiller~~zombie 00:56:08 876/3769 games for * (ossuary recent): N=876/3769 (23.24%) 00:56:12 haha, 2nd place and only spawns in one map 00:56:17 third place, really 00:56:18 if you group zombies 00:56:22 -!- shnurlf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:56:29 ah, true 00:56:40 i can't remember if cikiller helps there 00:56:44 !lg * ossuary recent s=cikiller 00:56:45 3769 games for * (ossuary recent): 1469x a mummy, 434x a decayed bog body, 342x a player ghost, 234x a wraith, 203x an elf zombie, 178x, 152x a centaur zombie, 131x a human zombie, 89x a scorpion, 88x a water moccasin zombie, 61x a big kobold zombie, 52x Menkaure, 45x a wyvern zombie, 43x a gnoll zombie, 34x the player character, 22x an adder zombie, 20x a wight, 17x a troll zombie, 15x a giant fr... 00:56:47 nope 00:57:15 how frequently do players die to it? 00:58:00 !lg * recent ossuary s=map 00:58:01 3769 games for * (recent ossuary): 748x ossuary_zaba_flooded, 566x ossuary_tomb_3, 401x ossuary_tomb_1, 280x ossuary_minmay_tomb_2a, 240x ossuary_tomb_2, 206x ossuary_minmay_scorpions, 173x ossuary_due_cavern, 146x ossuary_minmay_chase, 137x ossuary_boxes_badplayer, 133x ossuary_the_hunt_dpeg, 133x ossuary_crypta, 121x minmay_ossuary_two_tombs, 118x ossuary_due_mausoleum, 101x ossuary_minmay_four_... 00:58:22 !lg * ossuary recent map=ossuary_zaba_flooded s=ikiller 00:58:23 748 games for * (ossuary recent map=ossuary_zaba_flooded): 434x a decayed bog body, 177x a mummy, 45x a wyvern zombie, 15x a giant frog zombie, 15x a centaur zombie, 13x a killer bee zombie, 10x, 7x a wasp zombie, 5x a water moccasin zombie, 3x the player character, 2x a worker ant zombie, 2x an adder zombie, Lugonu's corruption, nublet's ghost, Rinvalk's ghost, Uhlv's ghost, phlebas's ghost, x184... 00:58:36 nice 00:59:23 !lg * recent kill~~bog / killer~~bog ossuary 00:59:24 Unknown field: kill 00:59:34 !lg * recent defeat~~bog / killer~~bog ossuary 00:59:34 Unknown field: defeat 00:59:37 -!- TonyMeatballs__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:59:54 !lg * recent decayed slay~~bog / killer~~bog 00:59:54 No keyword 'decayed' 00:59:59 gah 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:13 !lg * recent ossuary slay~~bog / killer~~bog 01:00:14 Unknown field: slay 01:00:14 what are you looking for? 01:00:31 kills / killedby 01:00:34 oh 01:00:36 the former isn't counted 01:00:44 except in logs. it's not on sequell, anyway 01:00:46 however 01:00:52 you could track... hm 01:01:08 !lm * recent verb~~exit ossuary x=map 01:01:10 times encountered over times killed by? 01:01:21 times entered the map 01:01:23 probably 01:01:26 my query there is clearly bad, though 01:01:27 No milestones for * (recent verb~~exit ossuary). 01:01:31 i'm trying to remember what the right verb is 01:01:37 we need miek_ 01:01:40 !lm * recent ossuary s=verb 01:01:42 40342 milestones for * (recent ossuary): 35350x br.enter, 2093x ghost, 1564x br.exit, 1078x uniq, 105x sacrifice, 67x death, 41x god.maxpiety, 18x ghost.ban, 11x god.mollify, 4x crash, 3x abyss.enter, 3x uniq.ban, 2x god.renounce, 2x ancestor.class, monstrous 01:01:46 br.exit 01:01:58 !lm * recent ossuary verb=br.exit 01:02:00 1564. [2016-05-12 03:11:24] Placid the Basher (L8 DsWn of Yredelemnul) left the Dungeon on turn 5599. (D:6) 01:02:04 hm 01:02:06 !lm * recent ossuary verb=br.enter 01:02:08 35351. [2016-05-12 05:02:35] cosmonaut the Martial Artist (L9 TeTm of Kikubaaqudgha) entered an Ossuary on turn 6727. (D:7) 01:02:11 !lm * recent ossuary verb=br.enter x=map 01:02:13 No milestones for * (recent ossuary verb=br.enter). 01:02:17 what 01:02:23 !lm * recent ossuary verb=br.enter 01:02:24 35351. [2016-05-12 05:02:35] cosmonaut the Martial Artist (L9 TeTm of Kikubaaqudgha) entered an Ossuary on turn 6727. (D:7) 01:02:31 oh, right 01:02:34 not tracked in milestones 01:02:45 feff 01:02:47 disregard! 01:04:49 -!- neongrey has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:10:57 -!- FireSight has quit [] 01:11:34 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:14:00 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:14:49 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 01:15:32 -!- kidkraken has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:20:12 -!- Crobe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:20:17 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 01:27:28 -!- TZer0 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:27:57 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:32:50 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:34:11 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 01:36:50 -!- eb has quit [] 01:36:58 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:43:43 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:44:06 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:46:30 -!- Erik_the_Red has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:47:17 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:02:24 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:02:51 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:05:21 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 02:07:32 The documentation for the webtiles server and the formatting, so much broken. Am I allowed to rewrite it all at a later point? (Once this ansible playbook is done?) 02:08:30 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 02:13:25 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:19:50 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:27:30 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:28:51 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:33:26 -!- koboldina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:34:26 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:39:19 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 02:40:45 Mattias: sure 02:40:59 Great! 02:41:17 ?/Lugafu 02:41:17 Matching terms (1): lugafu 02:41:19 The playbook will basically be a "step by step"-guide so when that is done it will be much easier to write a real documentation 02:41:25 ??lugafu 02:41:25 hair stats[1/1]: extremely bad hair <10, awful hair <30, poor hair <60, choko hair <90, normal hair <120, quite good hair<160, very nice hair<220, extreme hair<300, extraordinary hair <400, incredible hair <520, uncanny hair <700, almost entirely hair >=700 02:41:41 !learn q lugafu 02:41:41 lugafu[1/1]: see {hair stats} 02:41:44 wat 02:41:50 ah, of course 02:41:52 ??beard stats 02:41:52 beard stats[1/1]: Beard values for 0.10 are: beardless < 10, choko beard < 30, some beard < 60, quite a beard < 90, very beardy < 120, extreme beard < 150, extraordinary beard < 190, incredible beard < 240, uncanny beard < 300, almost entirely beard >= 300 02:42:01 that explains SPF_NO_HAIR now 02:42:14 rip beards :( 02:42:14 rip 02:42:14 but what is lugafu 02:42:14 -!- flappity_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:42:20 there is a god called lugafu?? 02:42:29 according to logfile 02:42:39 -!- flappity_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:43:41 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:45:03 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:45:55 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:46:46 -!- TonyMeatballs_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:53:29 nostalgia apparently 02:53:32 * Lugonu is once again Lucy, and Trog is Lugafu the Hairy. 02:53:46 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 02:56:48 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:59:58 -!- FatShack has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:05 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:00:25 -!- FIQ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:00:42 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02:46 nostalgia is a weird place 03:03:20 -!- FIQ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:03:33 -!- edsrzf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:04:08 -!- neongrey has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:04:13 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:05:08 -!- FatShack has joined ##crawl-dev 03:05:39 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:05:58 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 03:06:12 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 03:08:37 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 03:11:38 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-76-g295c512 (34) 03:17:12 -!- ZiBuDo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:24:40 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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If not, can this be added? 04:26:41 -!- Staren has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:30:02 !tell prozacelf i just got drained to 0 by an orc wizard with confuse and a dagger of draining 04:30:02 amalloy: OK, I'll let prozacelf know. 04:30:08 -!- Twinge has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:30:18 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 04:30:39 -!- sneakyness has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:31:19 -!- grammus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:31:29 -!- grammus has joined ##crawl-dev 04:31:46 -!- Klaymen has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:32:11 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:32:40 fixit_friend: you have to stop using github editor :P 04:33:18 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:34:01 -!- tealeaves has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:34:34 chequers: if it's a bigger project, I copy it to sublime text, edit it, then paste it back into github editor and submit the PR, does that count? :D 04:34:59 grimace of internal pain 04:35:00 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 04:35:50 -!- sneakyness has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:36:55 I tried gitg and I was able to fetch a repository, but the editor didn't seem to work 04:37:10 also it lacked highlighting, iirc 04:37:22 should I try gitk? 04:37:46 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 04:38:06 probably just git commandline if you want to contribute to a linux-based git project 04:39:17 with an external editor? 04:40:31 the nice thing about github editor is, you find a file, the interface sucks, you edit it, you make a PR 04:43:18 with command line, it's hard to set up, hard to find the file, unclear what the "correct" method is to do a diff, unclear what the "correct" method is to edit the file, then at the end there's no "make this into a PR" button 04:43:32 yes, it's harder 04:43:45 but it lets you test changes by compiling yourself and so on 04:50:05 !messages 04:50:05 No messages for TZer0. 04:55:45 -!- Gottschkopf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:01:25 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:02:06 -!- tsn has quit [Client Quit] 05:04:45 -!- GauHelldragon has left ##crawl-dev 05:05:50 also, http://i.imgur.com/lvp4jVM.jpg 05:08:51 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 05:10:22 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 05:11:42 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 05:22:31 -!- tkappleton has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:26:15 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:27:39 -!- kidkraken has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:31:20 -!- GoblinBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:32:44 -!- techieAgnostic has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4-dev] 05:37:05 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:38:22 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:39:26 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 05:53:41 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:01:04 -!- kuniqs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:22:59 -!- Ultraviolent4 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:23:11 is there a bug that stops you using shadow step on ghost moths? 06:28:34 -!- edsrzf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:44:53 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:55:08 -!- Wheatmill has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:55:36 -!- Wax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:04:59 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:07:11 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 07:16:31 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 07:20:28 cc: error: lex.yy.c: No such file or directory -.- trying to do make VIRUS=1 in dgamelaunch 07:21:25 * Mattias wonders why it is missing 07:21:35 using the szorg branch 07:21:42 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:21:47 chequers: Anything you've encountered before? 07:28:39 chequers: nvm, fixed it and on to the next error :) 07:30:10 * Mattias got it working 07:44:56 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:45:10 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:47:14 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 07:48:49 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:48:57 https://github.com/mattias/ansible_playbook_webtiles Not done, but I created a git repo. Need to add info to the README and finish the playbook. Right now it only goes up to step 6 in the docs. And after it's all done it's time to refactor / make it better. 07:49:39 -!- Pilsener has quit [Client Quit] 07:50:38 -!- rkd has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:54:08 -!- docnvk has quit [Excess Flood] 07:58:01 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00:04 -!- cojito has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:02:58 -!- meatpath has joined ##crawl-dev 08:04:44 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:13:25 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 08:15:17 -!- JStrane_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:15:46 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:16:08 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 08:24:17 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:27:21 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:28:23 Mattias: thumbs up! 08:28:42 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:29:16 !tell zibudo a few people want to use your server because it has https and gets around buggy proxies they have to use -- but you don't use port 443 for the webtiles server. Have you considered adding a reverse proxy on port 443? 08:29:16 chequers: OK, I'll let zibudo know. 08:30:06 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:31:45 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 08:41:37 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:43:36 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:44:14 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:49:33 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:50:26 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:50:45 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:58:38 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 09:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:16:06 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:23:38 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:26:49 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:27:03 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:28:13 -!- TonyMeatballs__ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:30:44 -!- punpun has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:33:03 -!- DDFi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:36:04 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:40:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:43:26 -!- bsdbeard has quit [] 09:49:31 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:50:52 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:52:11 -!- JoeMaro_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:54:08 -!- Wolpertinger has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:55:53 -!- grammu has joined ##crawl-dev 09:56:02 -!- flappity_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:56:31 -!- grammus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:56:38 -!- flappity_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:59:08 -!- dalwyn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:01:33 -!- rkd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:02:46 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:04:44 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:08:27 -!- Sonata has joined ##crawl-dev 10:09:13 spent 2000 turns kiting gastronok to death 10:09:16 #justmummythings 10:11:40 -!- flappity_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:12:11 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:14:01 Shadow Step doesn't work with ghost moths 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10412 by Ultraviolent4 10:15:16 -!- grammus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:16:51 -!- grammu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:20:42 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:25:00 -!- unpaidbill has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:29:03 -!- Hiffwe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:34:05 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 10:34:43 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 10:35:35 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:36:30 random thought 10:36:47 if you raised literally every single apt of mu by 1, would mu still be the worst race 10:39:55 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:40:22 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:45 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest13472 10:41:37 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:45:21 -!- DDFi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:45:43 -!- Guest13472 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:47:00 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:48:37 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:49:02 cool +5 venom dire flail edmund 10:49:07 !lm www 10:49:08 630. [2016-05-12 14:40:34] wheals the Geomancer (L8 MuEE of Ashenzari) killed Edmund on turn 10082. (D:6) 10:49:12 including hp? 10:49:17 !nchoice muee 10:49:22 MuEE: 2 wins || nikheizen: CJR, L16 Basher of Gozag || Avigdore: CAO, L13 Destroyer of Sif Muna || wheals: CJR, L8 Geomancer of Ashenzari || LaularuKyrumo: CAO, L1 Digger of No God 10:49:43 I think Mu is almost tied with Op/Na as it is so if you buffed the apts then yeah 10:49:50 whoa burglary doesn't have apport anymore? 10:49:58 -!- removeelyvilon_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:50:05 how do you get more burglary-y than that 10:50:55 -!- debo__ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:51:00 <|amethyst> wheals_: could re-add it if you find/make something to replace it in Cantrips 10:51:04 burglars are actually accredited professionals that past rigorous exams, and are assumed to have L1 spells mastered 10:51:13 s/past/pass/ 10:51:37 <|amethyst> or I guess in Party Tricks 10:52:19 <|amethyst> well 10:52:24 <|amethyst> might need to remove something from Bug 10:52:26 <|amethyst> Burg 10:52:41 i guess it's in a lot of books 10:52:56 <|amethyst> looks like it was removed from Burglary in part because Invisibility was added 10:53:00 <|amethyst> %git 64f0e6ef 10:53:00 07MarvinPA02 * 0.15-a0-162-g64f0e6e: Replace Invisibility with Dazzling Spray in the book of Maledictions 10(2 years, 1 month ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/64f0e6ef8afa 10:53:43 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:53:44 feels like apport belongs there more than swiftness, but the rest are indeed pretty burglary-y too 10:53:59 ??burglary 10:53:59 book of burglary[1/1]: Apportation (replaced by Invisibility in 0.15), Swiftness, Passwall, Passage of Golubria, Lee's Rapid Deconstruction, Darkness 10:54:13 <|amethyst> maybe that should be updated 10:54:18 why is LRD there? or is that out of date 10:54:19 <|amethyst> since we just released 0.18 and all 10:54:56 even if it can break walls to get in a couple vaults, noisy damaging earth explosion is not exactly burglary 10:55:07 <|amethyst> I think 1. it lets you get into some vaults, 2. it shares Earth with Passwall, 3. it's only in one other book 10:55:34 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 10:55:40 <|amethyst> safecrackers are known to use explosives 10:56:04 <|amethyst> not that I would mind removing it, if it were moved somewhere else 10:57:22 <|amethyst> would suggest Earth, but we eliminated overlap between the two Ice books, so probably don't want to add it between the two Earth books 10:57:56 yeah 10:58:27 I just looked through the list of books and don't really see a good location for LRD, so I guess leaving it there is fine 10:58:47 <|amethyst> it's vaguely alchemy-ish, and can be pre-trained by Petrify there 10:58:56 <|amethyst> OTOH that would but the Petrify-LRD combo in two books 10:59:09 <|amethyst> We can always add books of course 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:21 Book of Stuff 11:00:32 <|amethyst> Book of Named Wizards 11:00:43 <|amethyst> would need several volumes I guess 11:00:47 btw, book of dreams is a bit sad with only 4 spells 11:00:52 <|amethyst> and Book of Eponymy would be a better name 11:01:10 not sure what else could be added though 11:01:12 ??book_of_dreams 11:01:13 book of dreams[1/1]: Ensorcelled Hibernation, Silence, Phase Shift, Shadow Creatures, Mass Confusion, Darkness 11:01:34 <|amethyst> minus phase shift and mass confusion 11:02:28 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 11:02:32 apport is kind of dreamy? 11:02:55 Like you have super powers in your dream 11:03:00 other books with only 4 spells are either pretty high level (transfigurations, akashic record, etc) or low level (cantrips) 11:03:14 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:03:29 I guess envenomations is also 4 spells, though that's presumably because we don't have many poison spells 11:03:42 <|amethyst> bring back summon scorp 11:03:44 but book of dreams just feels like a random book that should have more 11:03:58 <|amethyst> confusing touch 11:04:32 -!- wheals has 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has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:53:02 wow, TIL imps have race-specific insults. this guy just called me a kobold-kissing horsey-face 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:05:54 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:23:53 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:27:28 -!- pantaril has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:33:39 <|amethyst> "fur-fop" 14:33:47 <|amethyst> (for Felids) 14:35:11 "brisket" (minotaur) is one that stuck out to me when i glanced over it 14:36:40 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:37:14 -!- removeelyvilon_ has quit [Client Quit] 14:42:18 -!- red_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:42:58 !lm www br.enter=wizlab 14:42:59 2. [2016-05-10 08:19:09] amalloy the Acrobat (L19 DEWz of Vehumet) entered Zonguldrok's Shrine on turn 57247. (Elf:1) 14:43:20 a wizard entering a wizlab 14:43:24 unapropos_clan_names 14:43:29 i actually had to abandon that wizlab 14:43:36 !lm www br.enter=wizlab 1 14:43:37 1/2. [2016-05-07 06:50:14] amalloy the Warrior (L20 GhEE of Ashenzari) entered The Hall of Poimut the Hellbinder on turn 43591. (Depths:1) 14:43:58 Maud (05@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 13 | HP: 96-136 | AC/EV: 10/7 | Dam: 32 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter | Res: 06magic(80) | XP: 1739 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 14:43:58 %??maud 14:44:12 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: Reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold, BYE] 14:44:18 she's really refusing to die 14:44:44 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:44:49 she's forgotten how 14:46:46 -!- Woasha has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 14:47:22 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:05:21 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:35 !nchoice 15:24:42 FeWr: 0 wins || Nausicaa: CBRO, L18 Eviscerator of Nemelex Xobeh || mibe: CBRO, L17 Warrior of Okawaru || Kellhus: CDO, L16 Ripper of Trog || Enish: CUE, L12 Placeless Cat of Vehumet || stickyfingers: CDO, L13 Ripper of Dithmenos || flinch: CUE, L13 Unseen of Dithmenos || mooon: CWZ, L11 Nimble of Ru || inqbanana: CBRO, L9 Covert of Kikubaaqudgha || AlchemyMouse: CAO, L1 Grasshopper of No God 15:24:59 There are FeWr and FeWr good nem choices these days... 15:27:01 -!- mzmz has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:28:00 !nchoice cene 15:28:09 CeNe: 1 win || ldf: CDO, L15 Fighter of Ru || wormsofcant: CBRO, L14 Markscentaur of Okawaru || magipi: CUE, L13 Spear-Bearer of Ru || amalloy: CAO, L11 Archer of Okawaru || FishServ: CPO, L10 Archer of Kikubaaqudgha || MDvedh: CXC, L6 Chucker of Makhleb || murtidash: CBRO, L5 Grave Robber of No God || Yermak: CXC, L1 Grave Robber of No God || jikkuryuu: CJR, L1 Grave Robber of No God || Vojta: CX... 15:30:48 elliptic is doing FoIE GrAs SpAM, I think I see the pattern 15:31:07 the question is are there any other meat combos left 15:31:07 -!- Orphics has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:31:24 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:31:56 he'll have to switch to minotaurs 15:33:18 <|amethyst> ??words 15:33:19 words[1/5]: dear deck demo desk dram fear feck foam ghee gram hack hear heck hehe hewn hoar hock homo hone huck husk mien mine muck musk open spam spar spas teak team tear teas teen tram tree trie 15:33:33 hock I guess 15:35:48 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:36:50 <|amethyst> I think carpentry might work better, because you can make a hewn teak tree desk 15:37:46 -!- Shasbat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:37:59 <|amethyst> alternatively, you can keep your skin young and supple with ghee foam spas 15:40:59 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 15:42:20 |amethyst: don't forget refreshing teas 15:46:15 <|amethyst> software project manager preparing for the brass to visit: "Dear team: Hone trie hack demo." 15:48:59 <|amethyst> ohh, also 15:49:10 <|amethyst> elliptic can also do Kobe, 15:49:30 <|amethyst> which isn't listed in words[1] because it's a proper noun, I guess 15:50:04 oh that's probably the plan, yeah 15:50:25 maybe even ghee since that's also cullinary 15:55:25 -!- jefus- is now known as jefus 15:55:57 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:57:41 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Client Quit] 15:58:34 -!- shinino_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:59:18 -!- Doll has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:02:40 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 16:18:40 -!- Jiharo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:21:32 -!- Wax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:27:52 -!- PsyMar has quit [Disconnected by services] 16:28:07 -!- PsyMar2 is now known as PsyMar 16:29:44 <|amethyst> is there a non-IRC interface for doing sequell queries anywhere (specifically !lg stuff, not learndb) 16:29:49 <|amethyst> ? 16:29:57 <|amethyst> https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/4j2j1x/fr_see_only_highscores_of_certain/ 16:33:43 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:33:51 |amethyst: that guy only plays offline, so such an answer wouldn't help him. but of course i agree it would be useful to have anyway 16:34:18 <|amethyst> oh, doh 16:34:31 FR include sequell with the downloadable version 16:34:35 <|amethyst> obviously integrate sequell into craw.. 16:34:52 <|amethyst> it worked for monster 16:35:34 -!- shnurlf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:35:37 <|amethyst> more simply 16:35:38 |amethyst: did you see the folks asking for year-round tracking of t banners? i can see how some people would want this, but also how it might decrese t hype 16:36:18 <|amethyst> it probably wouldn't be too bad to make things like ./crawl -tscores also pay attention to the -species, -job, and/or -name options 16:37:03 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:37:45 <|amethyst> amalloy: I don't think that would be a big problem... a few of the banners only make sense in the context of a tournament though 16:37:57 sure 16:38:03 like politician wouldn't work 16:38:20 https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/4irw18/can_we_keep_the_banners_after_the_tournament_ends/ 16:38:26 <|amethyst> but conversely, you could do things for achievements that wouldn't be feasible for a tournament 16:38:47 <|amethyst> we already have some of those but they're not really recorded in a useful place for most people 16:39:01 talking abotu greatplayer etc? 16:39:10 <|amethyst> yeah 16:39:56 <|amethyst> for things that aren't recorded at all except in sequell, what about "played every combo at least once"? 16:40:24 <|amethyst> would need some thought about how to handle newly-added things 16:41:07 achievement name: combo jobbin' 16:41:28 <|amethyst> !lg * playable x=cdist(char) 16:41:54 5035763 games for * (playable): cdist(char)=615 16:41:55 !lg |amethyst playable x=cdist(char) 16:41:59 11195 games for |amethyst (playable): cdist(char)=615 16:42:07 alternatively we could name it after you 16:42:16 !lg . playable x=cdist(char) 16:42:18 391 games for amalloy (playable): cdist(char)=152 16:42:40 <|amethyst> !lg @devteamnp playable s=name x=cdist(char) 16:42:42 50625 games for @devteamnp (playable): 11194x Neil [615], 6530x KiloByte [202], 4626x 78291 [450], 3709x gammafunk [117], 3210x wheals [287], 2502x sorear [271], 2479x MarvinPA [341], 1886x dpeg [236], 1432x bh [204], 1341x rob [217], 1325x SGrunt [86], 944x SamB [153], 936x HangedMan [66], 926x bookofjude [156], 790x erisdiscordia [102], 774x doy [130], 650x Lasty [202], 635x pointless [112], 548... 16:42:51 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 16:42:51 <|amethyst> !lg @devteamnp playable s=name x=cdist(char) o=cdist(char) 16:42:53 50625 games for @devteamnp (playable): 11194x Neil [615], 4626x 78291 [450], 2479x MarvinPA [341], 3210x wheals [287], 501x elliptic [279], 2502x sorear [271], 1886x dpeg [236], 510x Medar [232], 1341x rob [217], 1432x bh [204], 6530x KiloByte [202], 650x Lasty [202], 444x itsmu [174], 926x bookofjude [156], 944x SamB [153], 548x ontoclasm [138], 774x doy [130], 433x evilmike [127], 433x pleasingf... 16:43:05 <|amethyst> !lg @devteamnp s=name x=cdist(char) o=cdist(char) 16:43:06 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 16:43:06 63294 games for @devteamnp: 12545x Neil [790], 6247x 78291 [706], 3108x MarvinPA [445], 3393x sorear [415], 2206x rob [341], 3580x wheals [329], 595x elliptic [328], 2268x dpeg [314], 10454x KiloByte [290], 590x Medar [275], 1733x bh [263], 575x itsmu [233], 1360x bookofjude [231], 666x Lasty [210], 983x doy [194], 1440x SamB [189], 584x evilmike [160], 866x pointless [157], 585x ontoclasm [152], ... 16:44:18 heh, i don't make those lists because i have too many alts 16:44:31 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:44:32 !lg . playable s=name x=cdist(char) 16:44:34 391 games for amalloy (playable): 242x amalloy [105], 122x Mountebank [56], 24x yollama [21], 3x hyperamalloy [3] 16:44:53 <|amethyst> !lg . s=name 16:44:54 12546 games for |amethyst: 12545x Neil, ElvishCostello 16:45:10 !lg . s=name 16:45:10 1023 games for doy: 983x doy, 40x doy2 16:45:19 -!- Zekka has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:51:29 !learn add carpentryrobin streak hewn teak tree desk 16:51:30 carpentryrobin[1/1]: streak hewn teak tree desk 16:53:19 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:55:22 ...on a deck 16:56:13 finishing the streak with desk or deck sounds tough! 16:56:25 much harder than gooserobin or giantrobin 16:57:17 ??gooserobin 16:57:18 gooserobin[1/2]: 78291 has 2 consecutive wins (FoIE, GrAs). 16:57:29 ??giantrobin 16:57:29 giantrobin[1/1]: streak FeFi FoVM 16:58:27 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:03:57 -!- Zargon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:08:01 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:12:20 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 17:12:44 |amethyst: there's beem, but maybe that's not the interface you had in mind 17:12:54 a GUI for sequell would be quite something 17:13:08 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:13:57 well twitch chat is just irc with a web client right 17:16:28 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:16:46 n1: i think it's a proprietary protocol that twitch also provides some meager irc integration for 17:17:19 Ah, that makes more sense--I never found the irc integration better than awkward 17:18:01 like have you ever tried sending /nick to twitch irc? 17:18:09 the response is to disconnect your session 17:18:24 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:18:56 I'm not sure it's fair to just dismiss their irc integration as awkward, if that's implying it's unusable 17:20:33 it's definitely a net positive for me that I can use an irc-based client, and for bot usage it's also been good 17:21:46 it's useable 17:22:23 it's just very clearly not a full implementation of irc 17:23:54 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:24:32 well it's not like I'm going to DCC my entire collection of excellent twitch stream game remix track to the likes of amalloy any time soon, so what do I need a full implementation of irc for??? 17:24:45 *tracks 17:25:13 i'm pretty sure that's what your stream is for. tricking people's browsers into downloading your ocr playlist 17:25:47 my stream is basically "Top Video Game Music Hits, by DJ FreeKillB" 17:26:14 "(also featuring gammafunk's screensaver)" 17:26:19 do you know if he does weddings? 17:26:25 I'll have to ask 17:26:54 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:27:31 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:28:39 fr: recur_lang 17:29:01 !recur !motto 2 Ouch! That really hurt! 17:29:01 OOTRHOTRHOTRH! O-OTRH!! O-O-Ouch!!! T-T-That!! R-R-Really!! H-H-Hurt!!! O-Ouch!! T-That! R-Really! H-Hurt!!! O-OUCH!! T-THAT! R-REALLY! H-HURT!!! OTRH! O-Ouch!! T-That! R-Really! H-Hurt!! Ouch! That Really Hurt!! OUCH! THAT REALLY HURT!!! OTRH! O-OUCH!! T-THAT! R-REALLY! H-HURT!! OUCH! THAT REALLY HURT!! OUCH! THAT REALLY HURT!!! 17:29:09 !recur !motto 3 Ouch! That really hurt! 17:29:10 OOOTRHOTRHOTRHOOTRHOTRHOTRHOOTRHOTRHOTRH! O-OOTRHOTRHOTRH!! O-O-OTRH!!! O-O-O-Ouch!!!! T-T-T-That!!! R-R-R-Really!!! H-H-H-Hurt!!!! O-O-Ouch!!! T-T-That!! R-R-Really!! H-H-Hurt!!!! O-O-OUCH!!! T-T-THAT!! R-R-REALLY!! H-H-HURT!!!! O-OTRH!! O-O-Ouch!!! T-T-That!! R-R-Really!! H-H-Hurt!!! O-Ouch!! T-That! R-Really! H-Hurt!!! O-OUCH!! T-THAT! R-REALLY! H-HURT!!!! O-OTRH!! O-O-OUCH!!! T-T-THAT!! R-R-RE... 17:29:18 maybe the level of recursion could be configurable 17:29:34 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:30:32 <|amethyst> %git 81f70e5 17:30:32 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-3887-g81f70e5: Cap fakelangs to 3 at a time 10(1 year, 3 months ago, 2 files, 9+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/81f70e5ff002 17:30:47 oh yeah, that grunt,grunt,grunt 17:31:31 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:35:45 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:37:07 -!- SenorMeltyface has joined ##crawl-dev 17:37:20 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:41:21 @??goblin 17:41:28 oh, we lost gretell 17:42:36 guess I can just restart it, not sure if it would automatically come back 17:42:59 -!- Gretell has joined ##crawl-dev 17:43:58 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:44:25 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Quit: I quit] 17:44:38 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 17:45:12 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:52:19 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:57:04 -!- lukano has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:58:47 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:59:01 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 18:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01:35 -!- SenorMeltyface has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:01:37 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-a0-76-g295c512 (34) 18:02:53 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:03:50 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 18:04:03 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:07:36 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:07:42 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 18:09:24 -!- Pilsener has quit [Client Quit] 18:09:39 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:10:17 -!- Vizer has quit [Client Quit] 18:11:04 -!- WorkSight has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 18:11:36 -!- cang has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:12:49 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:13:37 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:17:45 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:18:07 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:19:26 -!- Dracunos is now known as Dracunos-m 18:22:57 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:23:39 -!- Harvester_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:31:47 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 18:32:08 -!- eurtek has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:32:31 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:32:34 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:33:35 -!- wheals_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:33:36 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:34:24 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:40:25 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:46:17 -!- Franz__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:47:32 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:47:58 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 18:55:46 -!- shnurlf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:58:11 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:01:50 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 19:02:06 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:04:41 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:07:16 -!- hellmonk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:07:43 hey chequers, you around? 19:08:42 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:09:00 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 19:12:29 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:13:32 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 19:16:07 fwiw, the local time in sydney AUS applies here 19:16:34 for all i know it's a great time of day over there tho 19:17:30 9 AM. 19:17:59 you're prooooobably good to just "continue" your broken streak, it'll count if/when the troll game is removed 19:18:32 streakbreaking critical mass 19:18:48 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:18:48 feelsbadman 19:19:00 maybe I will lose my next game and then it won't have mattered at all 19:19:20 :} 19:22:25 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:23:45 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:31:40 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:43:17 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 19:44:13 !lm www br.enter=shoals|spider|swamp|snake min=turns 19:44:16 14. [2016-05-12 23:35:11] gammafunk the Summoner (L12 MuSu of Sif Muna) entered the Shoals on turn 9992. (Lair:6) 19:44:37 can't expect much out of the Mu, since sif doesn't love me today and gave 3 bad book in a row, but we'll see 19:44:56 i believe in u 19:48:22 how much piety does one tyupically get from "a floor"? 19:48:46 fixit_friend: what you'd probably want to do is look at something like objstat to see ave xp 19:48:51 is that a number that can be known and balanced around 19:49:08 then multiply that by the god's piety factor 19:49:09 !source objstat 19:49:10 Can't find objstat. 19:49:18 but there are level spawns 19:49:28 ??objstat 19:49:28 objstat[1/2]: Run with "crawl -objstat" in a build of crawl with EXTERNAL_FLAGS_L=-DDEBUG_STATISTICS in your make command (or full debug with "make debug") to generate item/monsters statistics. See crawl -help for the argument details. 19:49:30 ??objstat[2 19:49:30 objstat[2/2]: Latest spreadsheets for past releases and trunk (0.18-a0-1324-g13589fb): https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7VXhHzhWWb7S282VWhLVWRXbG8&usp=sharing , See the README for details: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D5mFqVi8ghz_nzvVmDUc3unx8VanVBWfgvZ8xCHaiJo/edit?usp=sharing 19:49:35 see those spreadsheets 19:49:45 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:49:59 for level spawns you could factor those after say 1k turns, which is a fairly typical number of turns to clear a level 19:50:00 hellmonk: hi 19:50:04 !lg yermak lld 19:50:05 4. Yermak the Grave Robber (L1 CeNe), blasted by a dart slug (slug dart) on D:1 on 2016-05-12 14:12:21, with 2 points after 60 turns and 0:00:07. 19:50:05 maybe 1.2k-1.5k 19:50:14 hi chequers 19:50:22 cool gammamma 19:50:33 !lg yermak lld x=name,turn,char,killer,place 19:50:34 4. [name=Yermak;turn=60;char=CeNe;killer=a dart slug;place=D:1] Yermak the Grave Robber (L1 CeNe), blasted by a dart slug (slug dart) on D:1 on 2016-05-12 14:12:21, with 2 points after 60 turns and 0:00:07. 19:50:36 my streak got broken by the same griefer I think 19:50:37 when did my name get so many ms 19:50:46 hellmonk: in the tourney? 19:50:49 yeah 19:50:54 sorry gammammamamammma 19:50:55 the nick is dying5ever 19:50:57 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:51:13 ran a cene and died on D:1 on some server I don't play on 19:51:15 -!- JiharoDC has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:51:16 !lg dying5ever s=src t 19:51:17 7 games for dying5ever (t): 6x cao, lld 19:51:44 !lg dying5ever lld x=name,turn,char,killer,place 19:51:45 1. [name=dying5ever;turn=20;char=CeNe;killer=a hobgoblin;place=D:1] dying5ever the Grave Robber (L1 CeNe), slain by a hobgoblin (a +0 club) on D:1 on 2016-05-12 14:14:03, with 0 points after 20 turns and 0:00:04. 19:51:46 !logg dying5ever lld x=name,turn,char,killer,place 19:51:52 !log dying5ever lld x=name,turn,char,killer,place 19:51:53 1. dying5ever, XL1 CeNe, T:20: http://lazy-life.ddo.jp:8080/morgue-0.18/dying5ever/morgue-dying5ever-20160512-141403.txt 19:52:04 has dplusplus ever responded to account reset requests? 19:52:08 sure looks suspicious 19:52:15 I've not bothered asking 19:52:15 i'm not aware of anyone making them 19:52:30 well he's quite responsive on twitter 19:52:37 hellmonk: fwiw, you can prevent the game breaking your streak by starting a new game immediately after winning one. you don't need to play, just start the game 19:52:38 -!- Lasty has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:52:48 i don't have twitter, could someone else do the needful? 19:52:58 yeah I just wasnt thinking about it last night 19:53:07 hellmonk: you'll still get junk games on your profile page, and we'll clean them up 19:53:08 I stayed up until 2:30 winning the previous one 19:53:14 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:53:15 #crawllyf 19:53:18 well if you want to contact him, twitter registration is free but 19:53:26 it would be more players contacting him than us probably 19:53:30 it's really dumb that people still do this 19:53:42 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:53:49 you can also contact him via email 19:53:53 yep! 19:53:54 which is what i do 19:53:57 hellmonk: agreed! 19:54:03 it's so weird and petty 19:54:05 does he respond? 19:54:17 oh yeah! I did that for 0.18 19:54:17 I found he didn't respond but maybe he does now 19:54:17 i'll ask now for yermak and dying5ever 19:54:18 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:54:29 he's always responded to me 19:54:35 maybe he just doesn't like you 19:55:02 perhaps I shouldn't have begun my emails with "Hello Japan! Greetings from the Most Exalted One, gammafunk!" 19:55:07 -!- wheals__ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:55:08 etc 19:55:16 ok, I emailed about those two accounts 19:55:29 I won't kick off a rebuild until monday, in case the griefer gets bored before then 19:55:40 hellmonk: ^ fyi 19:55:44 thanks chequers 19:56:10 yw 19:56:33 !nchoice 19:56:36 CeAr: 0 wins || No CeAr games in progress. 19:57:59 -!- wheals_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:58:30 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:58:37 -!- hellmonk has left ##crawl-dev 19:59:15 weird nchoice 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:14 wasn't the last one CeNe? 20:00:19 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:00:26 maybe I dreamt that because the streaker was playing CeNe 20:04:36 !kw nchoice 20:04:36 Keyword: nchoice => OgAE|GhEE|huen|FoIE|DDSu|DEAM|VpVM|KoMo|OpSk|MfFE|HEEn|MuEE|sphu|TeTm|HaWz|CeNe|FeWr|CeAr 20:04:43 second-to-last 20:04:48 !nchoice cene 20:04:57 CeNe: 1 win || wormsofcant: CBRO, L18 Markscentaur of Okawaru || ldf: CDO, L16 Fighter of Ru || magipi: CUE, L15 Fighter of Ru || amalloy: CAO, L14 Archer of Okawaru || VanVeen: CBRO, L13 Spear-Bearer of Trog || Yermak: CXC, L11 Slinger of Kikubaaqudgha || Vojta: CXC, L10 Archer of Qazlal || FishServ: CPO, L10 Archer of Kikubaaqudgha || murtidash: CBRO, L8 Skirmisher of Okawaru || MDvedh: CXC, L6 ... 20:05:04 haha, good old wormcan 20:06:11 i'm always pretty impressed with the nchoice selections 20:06:41 when I was looking at the raw list it seemed crap, but I guess the 'uniqeness' algorithm is good enough to find the diamonds in the crud 20:11:29 what, you're going to claim that the Ce was chosen because I need another Ce win? Heh, good luck proving that, buster 20:12:14 <|amethyst> why are huen and sphu in lowercase? 20:12:23 <|amethyst> hax? 20:12:30 no, I think they're added manually? 20:12:35 through the command thingy 20:12:46 <|amethyst> oh, added manually to the keyword 20:12:56 yeah, =nemelex or something like that 20:12:59 !cmd =nemelex 20:12:59 Command: =nemelex => !kw nchoice $(if (= XXXX (=kw nchoice)) $1 (=kw nchoice)(if (not (= "0" (!lg * t won char=$(nth -1 (split | (=kw nchoice))) fmt:"$n" stub:"0"))) (concat | $1) (ignore $1))) 20:13:01 yep 20:13:37 -!- MarvinPA has left ##crawl-dev 20:14:13 if you see "Get the barnacled rune in less than 12000 turns as a Mu" in that kw, you can assume hax though 20:16:53 -!- Pekkekke has quit [] 20:18:42 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-77-g8317a97: Note Shadow Step/Invisibility interaction (10412) 10(82 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8317a97e6acc 20:19:42 now chequers is gonna tell me i shoulda left that one for someone else... 20:21:50 also, hm 20:21:54 delayed_decay is broken 20:23:01 at least for chunks 20:27:57 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: hm, seems to work for me 20:28:38 my steps to reproduce: spawn a floor with decayed_decay chunk vault (trog_butcher_becter), wait 500 turns, enter the vault, wait ~5 turns 20:28:41 and the chunk will vanish 20:28:48 <|amethyst> hm 20:30:14 PleasingFungus: non-code bug fixes are less useful as newbie tasks, I think 20:32:28 PleasingFungus: nice cleanup of the crawl variant dropdown btw 20:32:33 makes sense, since the time a chunk stack will expire is set when it's created 20:32:39 whether or not it has never_decay 20:32:41 hm 20:33:00 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: yeah... probably need to explicitly reset that when decay is activated 20:33:09 my thought is to not initialize it in the first place 20:33:20 i think we can lazily initialize it later? 20:33:27 quasi-lazily 20:33:31 been a while since i worked with this 20:33:39 hm 20:34:30 <|amethyst> how would you tell it hasn't been initialized? 20:34:40 same way we currently do? 20:34:49 props.exists(TIMER_KEY) 20:34:53 we do this all over the place 20:35:02 <|amethyst> oh right 20:35:08 <|amethyst> chunks are different from corpses 20:36:41 <|amethyst> ah, _rot_stack will already do that 20:36:43 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:36:51 -!- JStrane_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:37:04 -!- doy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:37:16 <|amethyst> but if you merge it into another stack before _rot_stack is called that could be a problem 20:37:59 <|amethyst> hm 20:38:00 i feel like we'd want to abort early from init_rot_stack(), and then handle never_decay stuff specially in merging/removing from stacks 20:38:10 er, init_perishable_stack 20:38:32 -!- doy has joined ##crawl-dev 20:39:49 <|amethyst> that seems like it would require handling never_decay in several more places 20:39:56 three 20:40:03 the merge & two remove functions 20:40:18 none of the other calls care 20:40:21 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:40:27 <|amethyst> but I guess that would also mean that if something ends up with actual never_decay somehow, it won't make your stacks permanent 20:40:49 i have no idea what the right behaviour is there 20:40:51 tbh 20:40:53 <|amethyst> hmm 20:40:56 <|amethyst> actually 20:41:14 <|amethyst> you say "handle never_decay stuff specially in merging" 20:41:35 <|amethyst> but if something's using delayed_decay it won't be never_decay by the time you merge/split it 20:41:46 <|amethyst> because it will have been in LOS 20:42:24 hopefully, yes 20:43:07 -!- docnvk has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:43:14 -!- Jessika has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:43:19 <|amethyst> ohh 20:43:44 <|amethyst> you meant doing that stuff *in addition to* initializing timeouts in _rot_chunks 20:44:05 i'm not sure i understand 20:44:19 <|amethyst> I mean, if you encounter a delayed_decay chunk vault 20:44:28 <|amethyst> and you don't pick up the chunks 20:44:38 <|amethyst> then it will never pass through the merging/splitting code 20:44:42 <|amethyst> but it should still start rotting 20:45:10 sure. and even if you do pick it up, it shouldn't have never_decay 20:45:38 <|amethyst> so the question is, who is responsible for adding the timeout when it is missing? 20:45:50 that's the easiest part 20:45:54 hold on, i'll sort this out 20:53:26 -!- Franz__ has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02:51 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:04:09 New branch created: fixrot (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/fixrot 21:04:09 03PleasingFungus02 07[fixrot] * 0.19-a0-78-g674c7a4: Fix delayed_decay for chunks 10(42 seconds ago, 1 file, 25+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/674c7a471f86 21:04:19 |amethyst: ^ 21:05:01 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: will take a look 21:08:50 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-77-g8317a97 (34) 21:08:54 <|amethyst> seems reasonable 21:09:37 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:09:55 <|amethyst> would be nice if there were tests for this 21:10:09 <|amethyst> seems like the kind of thing you could test fairly easily in lua 21:10:43 <|amethyst> would be a nice job for noobs, though maybe testing is boring 21:10:54 maybe! 21:10:56 :) 21:11:16 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-78-g674c7a4: Fix delayed_decay for chunks 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 25+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/674c7a471f86 21:11:21 <|amethyst> I guess the problem is that you do need to wait a fair number of turns 21:11:23 <|amethyst> which isn't bad if you stop spawns I guess 21:11:37 <|amethyst> I would not put that into 0.18 21:11:42 agreed 21:11:57 <|amethyst> or rather, not until well after the tournament once we know it doesn't add weird crashes 21:12:02 yes 21:12:55 <|amethyst> BTW, once we implement year-round banners/achievements, we should have one for number of distinct crashes 21:13:02 um 21:13:07 I have two questions; 21:13:08 - What is 'griefer'? I think that it is something like 'cheat tool'. 21:13:16 :) 21:13:34 it's a reasonable question! 21:13:34 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: distinct would need to be defined well 21:13:40 i wonder if he'd have recognized 'troll' 21:14:00 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: but if someone gets 40 different crashes in a modern version of crawl, they're *probably* discovering new bugs :) 21:14:01 dang, I just replied with 'impersonator', but 'troll' is probably clearer 21:14:16 "troublemaker", etc 21:14:30 <|amethyst> problem with "troll" is that it's hard to look up 21:14:33 you can always send a follow-up email! 21:14:57 <|amethyst> because if you don't know the word, you won't think to go to a slang dictionary first 21:15:43 wow, i forgot lrd used a goto 21:16:12 problem with counting crashes is that they're not part of logfiles/milestones 21:16:29 <|amethyst> chequers: they are milestones 21:16:29 oh? 21:16:30 !lm * recent crash 21:16:31 1264. [2016-05-13 01:15:51] Twogk the Cruncher (L10 GrGl of Okawaru) (D:8) 21:16:32 <|amethyst> chequers: they just don't count for normal sequell queries 21:16:38 <|amethyst> you have to explicitly ask for them 21:16:40 type=crash 21:16:44 !lm . type=crash 21:16:46 18. [2016-04-14 08:22:09] chequers the Grappler (L10 TrFi of Makhleb) (D:8) 21:16:46 <|amethyst> !lm * s=type 21:16:50 !lm . type=crash -log 21:16:54 nifty 21:17:12 <|amethyst> !lm * crash x=noun 21:17:20 22320721 milestones for *: 8949726x uniq, 3640659x br.enter, 2710952x begin, 1334621x br.end, 1219019x ghost, 1110926x god.worship, 1100471x br.exit, 501822x rune, 371319x zig, 276577x shaft, 261361x god.maxpiety, 194353x abyss.enter, 165631x abyss.exit, 62119x death, 60481x zig.enter, 54085x god.renounce, 48438x br.mid, 47276x sacrifice, 43313x orb, 34949x monstrous, 29015x god.mollify, 27702x un... 21:17:20 <|amethyst> I guess I broke it 21:17:21 13480. [2016-05-13 01:16:02] [noun=?] smazza the Twirler (L2 MiGl) (D:2) 21:17:22 18. chequers, XL10 TrFi, T:7922 (milestone): https://crawl.project357.org/morgue/chequers/crash-chequers-20160414-082209.txt 21:17:37 <|amethyst> !lm * crash x=noun -2 21:17:38 13479/13480. [2016-05-13 01:15:51] [noun=?] Twogk the Cruncher (L10 GrGl of Okawaru) (D:8) 21:17:45 <|amethyst> !lm * crash x=noun noun!=? 21:17:46 8961. [2016-05-12 07:22:19] [noun=ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 507: mid cache bogosity: no monster for 937] hanon12 the Severer (L14 HOCK of Beogh) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 507: mid cache bogosity: no monster for 937 (Spider:2) 21:17:59 nifty 21:18:07 !lm . br.mid 21:18:08 No milestones for chequers (br.mid). 21:18:12 !lm * br.mid 21:18:15 48438. [2016-04-23 00:53:26] Alatreon the Executioner (L14 MiBe of Trog) reached level 14 of the Dungeon on turn 21749. (D:14) 21:18:52 !lm . sacrifice 21:18:53 86. [2016-05-10 13:02:03] chequers the Grappler (L13 TrMo of Ru) sacrificed love on turn 13314. (Lair:5) 21:18:54 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:19:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 21:20:12 !lm * br.mid s=cv 21:20:13 48438 milestones for * (br.mid): 9839x 0.13-a, 8687x 0.10, 7655x 0.12-a, 6386x 0.11, 5529x 0.13, 4203x 0.12, 4058x 0.11-a, 1782x 0.14-a, 299x 0.10-a 21:22:43 <|amethyst> !lm * t crash s=name x=cdist(noun) 21:22:45 11 milestones for * (t crash): 2x lynn [1], 2x Helmschank [1], Leszczynek [1], JaminCrawler [1], Yermak [1], smazza [1], svendre [1], Twogk [1], Etesian [1] 21:24:08 -!- wheals__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:24:31 -!- wheals__ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:25:14 -!- wheals__ has quit [Client Quit] 21:27:01 <|amethyst> so, it's kind of weird that player halflings are p rather than @ 21:27:11 <|amethyst> since the difference between p and @ is uniqueness, not size 21:27:41 <|amethyst> with show_player_species = true that is 21:30:41 ohhhhh 21:30:43 hey |amethyst 21:30:46 wanna see a cool bug 21:30:50 <|amethyst> ? 21:30:53 !source act-iter.cc:123 21:30:54 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/act-iter.cc#l123 21:31:08 thanks to minmay for indirectly discovering this 21:31:16 <|amethyst> ha 21:31:17 and also for finally making the old learndb joke about ghost moths relevant 21:31:53 <|amethyst> hmm 21:32:02 i really wonder how much stuff this broke 21:32:35 <|amethyst> I wonder what stuff was built around the breakage and will break when it is fixed 21:32:46 fun to find out... 21:33:19 seems like few things used viewer 21:33:26 relatively few? 21:33:32 <|amethyst> ? 21:33:32 maybe not that few 21:33:42 <|amethyst> anything that passes an actor will set viewer 21:33:44 yes 21:33:55 but many (most?) calls just pass a coord_def 21:33:57 <|amethyst> there's a fair amount of mi(&you) 21:34:05 <|amethyst> but yeah 21:34:08 <|amethyst> not the majority 21:35:04 <|amethyst> this is one of the cases where I wish I had a semantic code browser 21:35:12 @??lost soul 21:35:12 lost soul (09*) | Spd: 13 | HD: 10 | HP: 20-29 | AC/EV: 0/10 | 07undead, evil, fly, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 0 | Sz: small | Int: brainless. 21:35:29 these can't revive invisible monsters, i guess 21:35:43 <|amethyst> could give it see inv 21:35:55 sure 21:36:01 <|amethyst> if it's important I mean 21:36:05 or just use pos instead 21:36:46 <|amethyst> oh huh 21:37:01 <|amethyst> did minmay find this by fireball/meph targetting? 21:37:21 lee's rapid destruction 21:37:29 which led me down a long and irrelevant trail of investigation 21:37:38 <|amethyst> hm 21:37:47 <|amethyst> I'm seeing several that use .pos() but probably shouldn't? 21:38:03 <|amethyst> oh, well 21:38:25 <|amethyst> _valid_beogh_gift_targets_in_sight actually works because beogh_can_gift_items_to does check visibility 21:39:04 i feel like battlecry should affect monsters that the caster can't see 21:39:10 <|amethyst> there's a minor info leak in immolation 21:39:28 <|amethyst> but it shouldn't use the other iterator because you probably do want invisible creatures to get the enchantment 21:39:30 no idea about call of chaos 21:39:31 <|amethyst> for fun 21:40:53 i guess moths of wrath should be able to berserk invisible creatures? 21:40:55 @??moth of wrath 21:40:55 moth of wrath (04y) | Spd: 12 | HD: 9 | HP: 43-58 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Dam: 2505(rage) | fly | Res: 06magic(40) | XP: 503 | Sp: berserk other [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: small | Int: animal. 21:41:04 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:41:05 *invisible allies 21:41:17 moth inciting has always been a little mysterious to me 21:41:27 Yermak: your lld account has been locked, I suggest you register your name on other servers and let me know if any have already been registered that you don't control 21:41:46 !tell hellmonk your lld account has been locked, I suggest you register your name on other servers and let me know if any have already been registered that you don't control 21:41:46 chequers: OK, I'll let hellmonk know. 21:41:52 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:42:00 hm, aura of brill 21:42:26 ah, it specifically doesn't affect unseen allies 21:42:29 so that's intended 21:42:47 <|amethyst> do unseen allies exist? 21:42:54 <|amethyst> anymore I mean 21:43:32 <|amethyst> hm 21:43:33 i mean 21:43:38 aura of brilliance is a monster spell 21:43:45 and enemies don't automatically get to see other enemies 21:43:47 afaik? 21:43:48 -!- oasdffjfhefhef has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:43:54 <|amethyst> oh 21:44:03 <|amethyst> doh 21:44:09 my phrasing was a little weird 21:44:11 <|amethyst> I keep having silly moment 21:44:12 <|amethyst> s 21:44:21 druid death buff: affect invisible beasts, or no? (this will never matter) 21:44:28 @??spriggan druid 21:44:28 spriggan druid (03i) | Spd: 10 (move: 60%) | HD: 11 | HP: 38-52 | AC/EV: 3/18 | Dam: 18 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(100) | XP: 728 | Sp: stone arrow (3d18), awaken forest, druid's call, minor healing (2d5) [04emergency] | Sz: little | Int: human. 21:44:31 nvm 21:44:32 doesn't matter 21:44:42 <|amethyst> e.g. on a reddit thread I recently said I had no idea why Y is the glyph for large quadrupeds 21:44:58 <|amethyst> then someone pointed out "yak" 21:46:14 <|amethyst> I guess the ally-blinking spells could conceivably work either way 21:46:20 <|amethyst> with respect to invisible allies 21:46:24 i think it makes sense to leave them not affecting unseen allies 21:46:27 if that ever actually comes up 21:47:29 <|amethyst> what about the merfolk avatar song thing? 21:47:36 huh, unid forgets the contents of nearby monsters' inventory, too 21:47:46 |amethyst: there are two parts to that 21:47:56 counting nearby drowned souls, and counting other nearby monsters 21:48:07 the latter is wrong at present, since it checks how many enemies the player can see 21:48:20 the former is right 21:49:00 <|amethyst> when you say "at present" 21:49:11 sorry 21:49:22 low hanging fruit implementable!!!1 21:49:25 after the iterator bug fix but before subsequent fixes 21:49:29 <|amethyst> aha 21:49:34 chequers: what part of it? all of it? 21:49:39 -!- Shasbat has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:49:48 just a pavlovian response, carry on 21:50:18 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: yeah, I was thinking the earlier one in the code "largely alone" should ignore invisibility 21:50:35 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: since it seems to be about balance more than verisimilitude 21:50:41 chequers: lmao 21:50:55 <|amethyst> and verisimilitude wouldn't involve player visibility anyway 21:51:03 |amethyst: also, the player having sinv shouldn't cause enemies to spawn fewer drowned souls 21:51:40 <|amethyst> yeah 21:52:14 <|amethyst> counting number of drowned souls could work either way 21:52:27 <|amethyst> but I think it might be better to use .pos() 21:53:03 <|amethyst> doesn't really affect balance, it's just weird if you can make a mfav spawn more lost souls by making them invisible 21:53:07 yeah 21:53:08 <|amethyst> is it really doing a head count 21:53:08 also 21:53:18 sorry, i misread 21:53:29 i don't think it really matters and i don't think there's an abuse case here? 21:53:34 <|amethyst> no 21:53:38 i'm fine with leaving it as a headcount 21:53:42 <|amethyst> :) 21:53:43 but w/e 21:53:45 also 21:53:46 i just noticed 21:53:55 guess what copy-pasted code is in actor_near_iterator 21:53:56 <|amethyst> yeah, since it uses LOS anyway it must be a headcount after all 21:54:08 <|amethyst> hm 21:54:17 <|amethyst> surely there's a way to not have to implement that twice 21:54:56 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 21:54:57 The build passed. 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[map=volcano_village] offering the Destroyer (L11 TeNe of Vehumet), engulfed by a cloud of flame in Volcano (volcano_village) on 2016-05-13 01:26:06, with 6469 points after 10013 turns and 1:17:52. 22:52:38 !vault volcano_village 22:52:38 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/volcano.des#l1295 22:52:59 oh, i remember this one 22:55:07 -!- Tickenest has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:56:10 fantastic name 22:56:25 looks like the flame clouds can spawn on top of the entrance, even on the very turn you enter 22:56:37 offering died in a volcano village 22:56:40 very aztec 22:56:42 haha 22:57:31 hm 22:57:34 maybe if the cave had a door 22:57:38 or is that too silly? 22:57:54 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 22:57:55 The build has errored. 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(fix_near_iterator - 25304fa #5447 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/129900453 23:50:13 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 23:55:49 the streak breaker might be korean this time 23:56:18 wow 23:56:21 international trolling 23:56:22 inspirational 23:57:01 man, I feel like EE got hit really hard by the stoneskin nerf 23:58:55 not having the ability to bolster your AC is problematic when you have severe issues with fighting multiple enemies and often can get ambushed by fast threats given how loud your one AOE spell is 23:59:27 owned 23:59:36 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-78-g674c7a4 (34) 23:59:42 fr: earth/poison spell 23:59:52 it does feel like EE could use some more love