00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:37 <|amethyst> do you have any macros? 00:01:55 no, it's a clean build 00:02:19 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:03:54 hmm it's calling any_items_of_type to give it the '?' 00:04:15 <|amethyst> aha 00:04:25 <|amethyst> so it is what geekosaur said after all 00:04:45 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 00:04:50 <|amethyst> it's the question mark because there are items to be listed 00:05:00 <|amethyst> why the space the next time though 00:06:17 <|amethyst> oh 00:06:26 <|amethyst> is it going to the menu? 00:06:33 <|amethyst> rather than the prompt 00:07:23 <|amethyst> ah 00:07:31 <|amethyst> and the menu turns unrecognised keys into space 00:08:08 <|amethyst> if you're passing auto_list = true, it goes straight to the menu 00:08:28 are you talking about prompt_invent_item? and yes auto_list == true 00:09:02 <|amethyst> when auto_list is true, prompt_invent_item calls _invent_select 00:09:07 <|amethyst> which is a full-screen menu 00:09:08 is other_valid_chars sent to the menu so the menu can recognize those keys? 00:09:15 oh 00:09:19 <|amethyst> doesn't look like it 00:09:58 <|amethyst> !source InvMenu::getkey 00:09:58 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/invent.cc#l877 00:11:00 that's why 00:11:06 <|amethyst> yeah 00:11:18 why the hell would someone do that? that's just mean 00:12:49 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:12:54 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:13:13 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:13:40 <|amethyst> I guess you can add a new menu_type (maybe MT_INV_AND_FLOOR to go with MT_INVLIST) 00:13:45 <|amethyst> and handle it in that case 00:13:47 <|amethyst> but 00:13:52 <|amethyst> probably if you're in the menu 00:14:09 <|amethyst> I guess / is the you you're using to switch between floor and inventory? 00:14:18 <|amethyst> s/is the you/is the key/ 00:14:47 <|amethyst> if so, then probably in the InvMenu you'd want / to switch you to a different menu or something 00:15:06 <|amethyst> instead of returning back to the prompt 00:15:24 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:25 <|amethyst> not sure though 00:16:57 -!- shummie has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:17:59 well 2 things, 1 I haven't narrowed down what could be the universal key for toggling inventory/floor items to choose from and 2 well you answered that by adding a new menu type 00:18:18 <|amethyst> honestly, for the menu 00:18:33 <|amethyst> it might be better to have a new menu that does both floor and inventory items 00:18:44 <|amethyst> so you don't have to switch 00:18:46 <|amethyst> but that would require a bit of design and planning 00:18:52 yes i was thinking that the whole time, this would have saved me a lot of headache getting potions working 00:19:14 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:19:37 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest59549 00:20:36 |amethyst, the problem i'm discovering now is with the wielding of weapons. having a key trigger a menu switch just isn't working because Invmenu won't take a second special key. it is already being used by umm '-' for wield none 00:21:18 that's why i was trying to change it to a char other_key[] instead of char other_key 00:22:20 i suppose i could add && mkey != '/' to Invmenu::getkey() if statement 00:22:41 <|amethyst> that's going to be weird in other menus 00:22:43 but then anything else that calls MT_INVLIST will act strange when a user presses / 00:22:46 aye 00:22:53 <|amethyst> that's why I suggested a new MT_ 00:23:09 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 00:23:26 <|amethyst> then you can add && !(mkey == '/' && type == MT_BLAH) or whatever 00:23:40 <|amethyst> or handle it above, with the MT_KNOW special case 00:24:17 hmm 00:26:28 if you wouldn't mind sharing a couple of ideas what sort planning would need to go along with a new MT 00:26:34 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:26:35 -!- Guest59549 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:27:41 <|amethyst> if you're okay with just returning '/' to prompt_invent_item then maybe getkey is all that would need to be changed 00:28:28 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:29:48 <|amethyst> beyond that I'm not really sure 00:30:22 <|amethyst> probably if you wanted the menu to have very different behaviour, you wouldn't use a new menu_type 00:30:25 i'm surprised to see that invmenu has so much of it's own menu code, i thought that kind of stuff would have been handled in menu.cc 00:30:34 <|amethyst> but would make a derived class of KnownMenu 00:30:37 <|amethyst> err 00:30:52 <|amethyst> sorry, I mean a derived class of InvMenu 00:31:02 <|amethyst> KnownMenu is an example of such a class 00:31:49 <|amethyst> it has its own process_key that overrides and wraps the one from class Menu (which InvMenu inherits as-is) 00:46:32 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:47:25 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:51:30 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:52:09 -!- Scottbert is now known as Staren 00:55:04 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:55:54 !source itemname.cc:2303 00:55:54 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/itemname.cc#l2303 00:56:04 what is procfn 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:27 <|amethyst> in load_items etc? 01:00:40 <|amethyst> it lets you modify the menu entries 01:00:57 <|amethyst> a pointer to a function that takes a menuentry pointer and returns a new one 01:01:10 <|amethyst> either modifying the MenuEntry it is passed, or making a new one altogether 01:02:06 i don't see a function named procfn in the whole code base 01:02:26 <|amethyst> it's a parameter 01:02:33 <|amethyst> menu_letter InvMenu::load_items(const vector &mitems, MenuEntry *(*procfn)(MenuEntry *me), menu_letter ckey, bool sort) 01:02:51 -!- simmarine_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:03:02 <|amethyst> you can pass in any function that takes a MenuEntry* and returns a MenuEntry* 01:03:43 AHH procfn is not the name of the function procfn literally means 'name of a function' 01:04:13 -!- kidkraken has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:04:18 <|amethyst> yeah 01:06:07 <|amethyst> example things that might be passed in there are unknown_item_mangle, known_item_mangle, and _fixup_runeorb_entry 01:13:49 ok, so currently wield calls prompt_invent_item which calls getkey. getkey will return '$', which does nothing in wield menu. it drops player back to the regulat screen with the prompt "Huh?" and "Wield which item..." 01:14:22 i'm thinking if getkey is ok with sending $ back to wield and wield just giving a generic "Huh?" i think it should be ok to also include / 01:14:25 or whatever 01:21:03 -!- xczxc has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:28:40 guys i dont got any serious bugs to report but check out godabil.cc 6002 01:28:46 doesnt that cast look unsafe 01:29:30 handtxt = you.hand_name(true).c_str(); 01:30:13 -!- Orphics has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:30:50 or godwrath.cc 1968 01:31:03 revenge = _get_beogh_speech("idol follower").c_str(); 01:31:26 in principle grep *.cc -e 'c_str();' -C4 -n 01:32:15 most of them are ok though 01:33:08 the new dart slugs are excellent 01:36:38 -!- techieAgno2tic has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4-dev] 01:37:27 !source godabil.cc 6002 01:37:27 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/godabil.cc#l6002 01:37:56 hah 01:38:03 thats fixed 01:38:14 krator44: after i fixed your c_str bug, |amethyst went and found the rest 01:38:52 perhaps he missed some, but make sure you have the latest before reporting problems with c_str 01:38:56 yea 01:39:00 my bad 01:39:15 k never mind then 01:39:37 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:44:40 how stable is the git anyway? 01:47:53 -!- dtsundere has joined ##crawl-dev 01:48:26 -!- dtsundere is now known as dtsund 01:49:13 what do you mean by stable? 01:49:26 -!- Sprort has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:49:47 master changes pretty often, although there's a feature freeze leading up to each release, and during the tournament 01:51:33 well.. 01:52:37 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:53:12 does it crash very often 01:53:24 -!- DIonized has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:55:16 i think i'm gonna stick with 0.18 for now 01:55:54 |amethyst, what about adding a return value PROMPT_CHECK_GROUND in prompt_invent_item? 01:56:16 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:58:20 krator44: trunk is generally playable 01:58:48 i think the last i had a crash bug while playing trunk was when amulets of reflection were added, several months ago 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:04:32 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 02:12:20 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:13:33 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 46.0.1/20160502172042]] 02:19:10 apparently the LRD targeter will not automatically pick a target if the only monsters in LOS are invisible 02:19:14 even if the player has see invisible 02:21:08 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:22:01 !tell gammafunk i had a dream last night that a deep elf knight casted shock at my character and it did about 100 damage because of a bug that added 100 to monster shock damage 02:22:01 minmay: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 02:25:09 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:25:13 -!- Naruni has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:26:28 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 02:26:44 minmay: i think you need to take a break from dreaming. 02:26:46 it seems to be nothing but trouble. 02:27:34 but what if i have another dream about making out with a crawl unique 02:29:58 Did we ever resolve the os x build situation? 02:29:58 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 02:30:40 minmay: tavern will be even more... tavern 02:30:58 gammafunk: iirc the only problem was that you had to extract the app from the image, sometimes? it didn't seem like there was a real problem to speak o 02:30:59 *of 02:31:05 just poor geekosaur being slowly driven insane 02:31:22 which i can sympathise with (c.f. my recent efforts on inscription colouring, for example) 02:32:50 any chance the os x devs might put together some basic instructions (a couple paragraphs on download page) as to what to do? 02:32:59 We probably don't want to simply put them up there 02:33:14 but I can anchor link to some instructions if we just want to live with those builds 02:33:22 I'm not going to try to write instructions myself 02:33:29 since I don't have access to os x 02:34:32 !tell amalloy you had a thought about what was causing 10360, right? 02:34:32 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let amalloy know. 02:34:47 !bug 10360 02:34:48 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10360 02:35:50 random thought 02:35:51 gammafunk: "After downloading the game, be sure to click and drag the app into your Applications folder before running it." 02:36:02 how come pain has a recoil of 1 point of damage when used by the player 02:36:24 theme? a neat mechanical drawback that's sometimes relevant in the early game? 02:36:32 PleasingFungus: yes, i introduced it in f3709142ad128d091d16cdbc2ec189be88d862aa 02:36:38 %git f3709142ad128d091d16 02:36:38 07amalloy02 * 0.18-a0-739-gf370914: Let XE show you exclusions in unexplored terrain 10(5 months ago, 1 file, 17+ 64-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f3709142ad12 02:36:49 it really isn't ever relevant in the early game 02:36:54 i don't love just reverting, because i do like the feature i added 02:38:59 fair! 02:39:08 a player was complaining about it in the sa thread 02:39:15 "i've been complaining for months, and no one's listened!" 02:39:20 so i wanted some details for him 02:39:52 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:41:06 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:41:11 -!- FireSight has quit [] 02:44:19 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:58:30 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:33 can nikola's chain lightning max damage be toned down 03:00:55 he's a unique who can do 130 damage 03:00:59 !lg chequers 03:01:00 1690. chequers the Brawler (L18 TrMo of Ru), blasted by Nikola (chain lightning) on Snake:4 on 2016-05-11 04:54:02, with 206368 points after 37051 turns and 1:15:28. 03:01:32 well a lot of uniques can do that much damage 03:02:14 :) 03:02:19 good spidey sense 03:02:27 imo 03:02:32 only nerf nikola AFTER removing ha 03:03:07 remove 03:03:50 ha 03:03:57 remove nem beogh yred fedhas zin dith ru ha chain lighting nikola devs crawl 03:04:20 in reverse order 03:04:28 is there a kw with all the uniq names 03:04:34 you can use uniq 03:04:40 as a milestone or as a killer 03:04:40 !lg . uniq 03:04:41 No keyword 'uniq' 03:04:42 or ikiller 03:04:46 !lm chequers uniq 03:04:47 4650. [2016-05-11 04:50:57] chequers the Brawler (L17 TrMo of Ru) killed Vashnia on turn 36378. (Snake:4) 03:04:49 !lg . ikiller=uniq 03:04:50 274. chequers the Brawler (L18 TrMo of Ru), blasted by Nikola (chain lightning) on Snake:4 on 2016-05-11 04:54:02, with 206368 points after 37051 turns and 1:15:28. 03:04:52 aha 03:05:00 !lg chequers ikiller=uniq s=ikiller 03:05:01 274 games for chequers (ikiller=uniq): 49x Sigmund, 30x Grinder, 20x Crazy Yiuf, 16x Natasha, 14x Menkaure, 13x Robin, 13x Pikel, 12x Jessica, 10x Terence, 10x Duvessa, 6x Prince Ribbit, 6x Ijyb, 5x Rupert, 5x Edmund, 5x Dowan, 4x Purgy, 4x Eustachio, 4x Joseph, 4x Snorg, 4x Grum, 4x Gastronok, 3x Maurice, 3x Maud, 3x Azrael, 3x Erica, 2x Xom, 2x Blork the orc, 2x Erolcha, 2x Psyche, 2x Harold, Ij... 03:05:04 mm 03:05:06 good sigmunding 03:05:12 f that guy 03:05:21 !lg * t ikiller=uniq s=ikiller 03:05:22 3023 games for * (t ikiller=uniq): 400x Sigmund, 359x Natasha, 265x Grinder, 250x Robin, 185x Crazy Yiuf, 158x Pikel, 120x Terence, 117x Menkaure, 101x Ijyb, 85x Duvessa, 65x Jessica, 62x Snorg, 56x Blork the orc, 55x Prince Ribbit, 48x Eustachio, 48x Joseph, 45x Erica, 44x Maud, 43x Gastronok, 40x Dowan, 37x Edmund, 36x Erolcha, 35x Rupert, 30x Grum, 28x Urug, 19x Xom, 18x Nessos, 18x Purgy, 17x ... 03:05:27 he's just an orc wizard, basically 03:05:29 what's the problem? 03:05:34 wow, natasha... 03:05:42 an incredible desire to kill every unique I see 03:05:42 !killratio natasha * t 03:05:49 natasha wins 6.624% of battles against * (t). 03:05:55 !killratio natasha * cv=0.18-a 03:05:56 why didn't you quaff resistance 03:06:02 when you fought the dude with chain lightning the spell 03:06:02 natasha wins 7.398% of battles against * (cv=0.18-a). 03:06:06 that hd nerf buff must have really helped natasha 03:06:15 guess so! 03:06:16 gammafunk: it never did that much damage to me before 03:06:31 and I hadn't read %?? 03:06:33 that's a weird excuse but ok 03:06:42 fighting nikola without relec dubious 03:06:45 !lg * t ikiller=uniq s=ikiller max=tdam x=tdam 03:06:46 Extra fields (x=tdam) contain non-aggregates 03:06:53 unless you can disable him or one-shot/hex or something 03:06:55 !lg * t ikiller=uniq max=tdam x=tdam 03:06:56 3023. [tdam=123] braveplatypus the Hoplite (L27 HOFi of Okawaru), blasted by a Hell Sentinel (iron shot) (summoned by Zyliddif) on Zot:5 (hall_of_Zot) on 2016-05-07 03:26:49, with 649143 points after 72549 turns and 2:41:56. 03:07:05 ah, drat 03:07:10 too unique 03:07:17 hrm 03:07:21 that's actually not 03:07:33 really a unique 03:07:40 !lg * t ikiller=unique 03:07:41 No games for * (t ikiller=unique). 03:07:54 !lg * t cikiller=uniq 03:07:56 No games for * (t cikiller=uniq). 03:08:07 !kw uniques 03:08:07 No keyword 'uniques' 03:08:17 !lg * t ikiller=uniq cikiller!~~pandemonium max=tdam x=tdam 03:08:19 3023. [tdam=123] braveplatypus the Hoplite (L27 HOFi of Okawaru), blasted by a Hell Sentinel (iron shot) (summoned by Zyliddif) on Zot:5 (hall_of_Zot) on 2016-05-07 03:26:49, with 649143 points after 72549 turns and 2:41:56. 03:08:28 !lg * t ikiller=uniq cikiller!~~pandemonium max=tdam x=tdam,cikiller 03:08:29 3023. [tdam=123;cikiller=Zyliddif] braveplatypus the Hoplite (L27 HOFi of Okawaru), blasted by a Hell Sentinel (iron shot) (summoned by Zyliddif) on Zot:5 (hall_of_Zot) on 2016-05-07 03:26:49, with 649143 points after 72549 turns and 2:41:56. 03:08:38 !lg * t ikiller=uniq cikiller!~~Zyliddif 03:08:39 3022. Lightli the Scholar of Death (L7 DENe of Kikubaaqudgha), blasted by Pikel (wand of lightning) on D:5 on 2016-05-11 06:56:16, with 858 points after 4509 turns and 0:12:41. 03:08:51 !lg * t ikiller=uniq cikiller!~~Zyliddif max=tdam x=tdam,cikiller 03:08:53 3022. [tdam=104;cikiller=Frances] removeelyvilon the Geomancer (L11 MuEE of Gozag), demolished by Frances (a +3 dire flail) on D:12 on 2016-05-10 20:09:56, with 12642 points after 14350 turns and 0:41:25. 03:09:13 is there a better list of uniques in the source than "a subset of MONS_ in enum.h" 03:09:30 well there are the vualts 03:09:41 !vault unique_nikola 03:09:42 Can't find unique_nikola. 03:09:53 !cmd .elrank 03:09:53 Command: .elrank => !lg * br=lair lvl>2 lvl<8 kmap!~entry kmap!~uniq kmap!~special_ kmap!~altar kmap!= s=kmap 03:09:57 !kw uniq 03:09:57 Built-in: uniq => verb=uniq 03:10:01 !vault uniq_nikola 03:10:01 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/builder/uniques.des#l328 03:10:04 yeah 03:10:05 see that 03:10:10 so uniques.des 03:11:20 !lg * killer=the_enchantress 03:11:21 84. moxian the Earth Mage (L16 DEEE of Vehumet), mangled by the Enchantress (a +4 rapier of venom) on D:15 (grunt_enter_depths_magical_seal) on 2016-04-24 01:41:33, with 124840 points after 46468 turns and 5:25:10. 03:12:10 !kw uniques ikiller=agnes|aizul|arachne|asterion|azrael|blork_the_orc|boris|cerebov|crazy_yiuf|dissolution|donald|duvessa|edmund|the_enchantress|erica|erolcha|eustachio|fannar|frances|frederick|gastronok|gloorx_vloq|grinder|grum|harold|ignacio|ilsuiw|iyjb|jessica|jorgrun|jory|joseph|josephine|khufu|kirke|lom_lobon|louise|mara|margery|maud|maurice|menkaure|mennas|mnoleg|natasha|nergalle|nessos|nikola|norris|pikel|polyphemus|prince_ribbit|psyche|purgy|robin| 03:12:11 Defined keyword: uniques => ikiller=agnes|aizul|arachne|asterion|azrael|blork_the_orc|boris|cerebov|crazy_yiuf|dissolution|donald|duvessa|edmund|the_enchantress|erica|erolcha|eustachio|fannar|frances|frederick|gastronok|gloorx_vloq|grinder|grum|harold|ignacio|ilsuiw|iyjb|jessica|jorgrun|jory|joseph|josephine|khufu|kirke|lom_lobon|louise|mara|margery|maud|maurice|menkaure|mennas|mnoleg|natasha|nerg... 03:12:17 !lg * uniques 03:12:18 No games for * (uniques). 03:12:30 !kw uniques ikiller~~agnes|aizul|arachne|asterion|azrael|blork_the_orc|boris|cerebov|crazy_yiuf|dissolution|donald|duvessa|edmund|the_enchantress|erica|erolcha|eustachio|fannar|frances|frederick|gastronok|gloorx_vloq|grinder|grum|harold|ignacio|ilsuiw|iyjb|jessica|jorgrun|jory|joseph|josephine|khufu|kirke|lom_lobon|louise|mara|margery|maud|maurice|menkaure|mennas|mnoleg|natasha|nergalle|nessos|nikola|norris|pikel|polyphemus|prince_ribbit|psyche|purgy|robin 03:12:31 Defined keyword: uniques => ikiller~~agnes|aizul|arachne|asterion|azrael|blork_the_orc|boris|cerebov|crazy_yiuf|dissolution|donald|duvessa|edmund|the_enchantress|erica|erolcha|eustachio|fannar|frances|frederick|gastronok|gloorx_vloq|grinder|grum|harold|ignacio|ilsuiw|iyjb|jessica|jorgrun|jory|joseph|josephine|khufu|kirke|lom_lobon|louise|mara|margery|maud|maurice|menkaure|mennas|mnoleg|natasha|ner... 03:12:31 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:12:37 !lg * uniques 03:12:40 407625. ROKAFMP the Chopper (L5 FoFi), slain by Grinder on D:3 on 2016-05-11 07:10:56, with 100 points after 1586 turns and 0:03:51. 03:13:00 !lg * ikiller=agnes|aizul 03:13:01 3843. worldfamousw the Peltast (L14 MiFi), blasted by Aizul (bolt of poison) on Snake:1 on 2016-05-11 02:54:25, with 64100 points after 23363 turns and 1:05:58. 03:13:04 hm 03:13:15 why iddn't the first way work 03:13:27 oh was I hitting irc message limits? 03:13:41 yeah that's why it's not a great approach 03:14:19 !kw uniques1 ikiller=agnes|aizul|arachne|asterion|azrael|blork_the_orc|boris|cerebov|crazy_yiuf|dissolution|donald|duvessa|edmund|the_enchantress|erica|erolcha|eustachio|fannar|frances|frederick|gastronok|gloorx_vloq|grinder|grum 03:14:19 Defined keyword: uniques1 => ikiller=agnes|aizul|arachne|asterion|azrael|blork_the_orc|boris|cerebov|crazy_yiuf|dissolution|donald|duvessa|edmund|the_enchantress|erica|erolcha|eustachio|fannar|frances|frederick|gastronok|gloorx_vloq|grinder|grum 03:14:33 !kw uniques2 ikiller=harold|ignacio|ilsuiw|iyjb|jessica|jorgrun|jory|joseph|josephine|khufu|kirke|lom_lobon|louise|mara|margery|maud|maurice|menkaure|mennas|mnoleg 03:14:34 Defined keyword: uniques2 => ikiller=harold|ignacio|ilsuiw|iyjb|jessica|jorgrun|jory|joseph|josephine|khufu|kirke|lom_lobon|louise|mara|margery|maud|maurice|menkaure|mennas|mnoleg 03:14:50 !kw uniques3 ikiller=natasha|nergalle|nessos|nikola|norris|pikel|polyphemus|prince_ribbit|psyche|purgy|robin|roxanne|rupert|saint_roka|sigmund|snorg|sojobo|sonja|terence|tiamat 03:14:51 Defined keyword: uniques3 => ikiller=natasha|nergalle|nessos|nikola|norris|pikel|polyphemus|prince_ribbit|psyche|purgy|robin|roxanne|rupert|saint_roka|sigmund|snorg|sojobo|sonja|terence|tiamat 03:15:02 !kw uniques4 ikiller=urug|vashnia|wiglaf|xtahua 03:15:03 Defined keyword: uniques4 => ikiller=urug|vashnia|wiglaf|xtahua 03:15:12 !kw uniques uniques1|uniques2|uniques3|uniques4 03:15:13 Defined keyword: uniques => uniques1|uniques2|uniques3|uniques4 03:15:16 !lg . uniques 03:15:17 259. chequers the Brawler (L18 TrMo of Ru), blasted by Nikola (chain lightning) on Snake:4 on 2016-05-11 04:54:02, with 206368 points after 37051 turns and 1:15:28. 03:15:38 !lg t uniques max=dam x=dam 03:15:38 No games for t (uniques). 03:15:42 !lg * t uniques max=dam x=dam 03:15:45 2844. [dam=96] popbob the Thaumaturge (L16 GrEE of Vehumet), blasted by Jorgrun (Shatter) on Snake:3 on 2016-05-09 08:45:36, with 117414 points after 46685 turns and 1:46:21. 03:15:54 !lg * t uniques max=dam x=dam !gr 03:15:57 2631. [dam=73] Ultraviolent4 the Fighter (L19 MuWz of Sif Muna), blasted by Margery (bolt of fire) on Vaults:4 (vaults_standard_mumra_enter_the_diamond) on 2016-05-09 10:50:26, with 276332 points after 76606 turns and 5:37:18. 03:15:57 not catching them all 03:16:03 oh yeah? 03:16:08 !lg * t uniques max=dam x=dam s=ikiller 03:16:09 !lg * t ikiller=uniq cikiller!~~Zyliddif max=tdam x=tdam,cikiller 03:16:10 Extra fields (x=dam) contain non-aggregates 03:16:11 3024. [tdam=104;cikiller=Frances] removeelyvilon the Geomancer (L11 MuEE of Gozag), demolished by Frances (a +3 dire flail) on D:12 on 2016-05-10 20:09:56, with 12642 points after 14350 turns and 0:41:25. 03:16:19 oh tdam 03:16:28 !lg * t ikiller=uniq cikiller!~~Zyliddif max=dam x=dam,cikiller 03:16:30 3024. [dam=96;cikiller=Jorgrun] popbob the Thaumaturge (L16 GrEE of Vehumet), blasted by Jorgrun (Shatter) on Snake:3 on 2016-05-09 08:45:36, with 117414 points after 46685 turns and 1:46:21. 03:16:33 yeah there we go 03:16:36 !lg * t uniques max=dam x=dam -2 03:16:38 2844/2845. [dam=73] Ultraviolent4 the Fighter (L19 MuWz of Sif Muna), blasted by Margery (bolt of fire) on Vaults:4 (vaults_standard_mumra_enter_the_diamond) on 2016-05-09 10:50:26, with 276332 points after 76606 turns and 5:37:18. 03:16:48 though I'm not really sure I would use this 03:16:56 for one it's hard-coded to ikiller 03:17:14 only useful if you really care to exclude pan lords I guess 03:17:28 !lg * t !won / uniques 03:17:31 2845/20577 games for * (t !won): N=2845/20577 (13.83%) 03:17:34 !lg * t ikiller=uniq s=ikiller o=-N 03:17:35 3025 games for * (t ikiller=uniq): Frederick, Jiyva, Robin the fire bat (shapeshifter), Grinder the hellion, Cerebov, Antaeus, Sigmund the centaur, Tiamat, Zonizuke, Pikel the hell hound, Pikel the black mamba, Boris, Robin the killer bee, Cigotuvi's Monster, Asterion, Grinder the chaos spawn, Jaddit, Lom Lobon, Ijyb the wolf, Natasha the hell rat, Dissolution, Erica the komodo dragon, Grinder the... 03:17:41 ah 03:17:55 wonder if the polyies are handled 03:18:00 i guess you do need ~~ 03:18:10 which makes it slow 03:18:34 oh I know 03:18:52 !lg * t ikiller=uniq !uniques s=ikiller 03:18:53 185 games for * (t ikiller=uniq !uniques): 101x Ijyb, 40x Dowan, 19x Xom, 2x Gastronok the shard shrike, 2x Gastronok the hellephant, 2x Lugonu's corruption, Natasha the hell rat, Cigotuvi's Monster, Grinder the hellion, Grinder the chaos spawn, Ijyb the wolf, Pikel the fire bat, Pikel the black mamba, Robin the hell rat (glowing shapeshifter), Grinder the hell beast, Erica the komodo dragon, Robi... 03:18:58 heh 03:19:17 missing ijyb? 03:19:26 and dowan 03:19:42 !lg * t ikiller=uniq !uniques ikiller!~~the s=ikiller 03:19:44 168 games for * (t ikiller=uniq !uniques ikiller!~~the): 101x Ijyb, 40x Dowan, 19x Xom, 2x Lugonu's corruption, Zyliddif, Jiyva, Antaeus, Jaddit, Cigotuvi's Monster, Zonizuke 03:19:54 ah i get why dowan, but why doesn't ijyb have a map 03:19:55 nice unique, lugonu's corruption 03:20:05 oh, antaeus 03:20:10 you might be missing antaeus too 03:20:14 yup i am 03:20:26 Cigotuvi's Monster and moon troll i might include for the hell of it 03:20:39 well that's tricky because 03:20:41 hellbinder? 03:20:47 it has a random name 03:20:50 too hard basket :P 03:21:08 yeah but your thing works better I think if it has an actual definition 03:21:17 !kw uniques1 ikiller=agnes|aizul|antaeus|arachne|asterion|azrael|blork_the_orc|boris|cerebov|crazy_yiuf|dissolution|donald|duvessa|edmund|the_enchantress|erica|erolcha|eustachio|fannar|frances|frederick|gastronok|gloorx_vloq|grinder|grum 03:21:18 Defined keyword: uniques1 => ikiller=agnes|aizul|antaeus|arachne|asterion|azrael|blork_the_orc|boris|cerebov|crazy_yiuf|dissolution|donald|duvessa|edmund|the_enchantress|erica|erolcha|eustachio|fannar|frances|frederick|gastronok|gloorx_vloq|grinder|grum 03:21:25 fair enough, i'll stick to real uniques 03:21:44 !kw uniques1 ikiller=agnes|aizul|antaeus|arachne|asterion|azrael|blork_the_orc|boris|cerebov|crazy_yiuf|dissolution|donald|dowan|duvessa|edmund|the_enchantress|erica|erolcha|eustachio|fannar|frances|frederick|gastronok|gloorx_vloq|grinder|grum 03:21:45 hrm 03:21:45 Defined keyword: uniques1 => ikiller=agnes|aizul|antaeus|arachne|asterion|azrael|blork_the_orc|boris|cerebov|crazy_yiuf|dissolution|donald|dowan|duvessa|edmund|the_enchantress|erica|erolcha|eustachio|fannar|frances|frederick|gastronok|gloorx_vloq|grinder|grum 03:22:08 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:22:09 you might be able to drop the ikiller thing and just make it the list, not sure 03:22:13 !kw uniques2 ikiller=harold|ignacio|ilsuiw|ijyb|jessica|jorgrun|jory|joseph|josephine|khufu|kirke|lom_lobon|louise|mara|margery|maud|maurice|menkaure|mennas|mnoleg 03:22:14 Defined keyword: uniques2 => ikiller=harold|ignacio|ilsuiw|ijyb|jessica|jorgrun|jory|joseph|josephine|khufu|kirke|lom_lobon|louise|mara|margery|maud|maurice|menkaure|mennas|mnoleg 03:22:22 ha ha i just realised why ijyb 03:22:25 his map is spelt wrong 03:23:09 looks like the sequell kw is purely based on leading case 03:23:15 gammafunk: you mean like !kw uniques=uniques1|uniques2|uniques3|uniques4 ? 03:23:18 or sequell verb, rather 03:23:18 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 03:23:38 chequers: I mean not having ikiller= in each, basically 03:23:41 not sure if it would work 03:24:06 !kw test 03:24:07 Built-in: test => char=test 03:24:12 !kw chequerstest 03:24:13 No keyword 'chequerstest' 03:24:17 !kw uniqtest ijyb|jessica|jorgrun|margery 03:24:18 No keyword 'ijyb' 03:24:27 !kw uniqtest ikiller=ijyb|jessica|jorgrun|margery 03:24:28 Defined keyword: uniqtest => ikiller=ijyb|jessica|jorgrun|margery 03:24:30 interesting 03:24:36 !kw uniqtest ijyb|jessica|jorgrun|margery 03:24:37 No keyword 'ijyb' 03:24:43 !kw chequerstest ikiller=uniqtest 03:24:43 guess that answers that question 03:24:43 Defined keyword: chequerstest => ikiller=uniqtest 03:24:51 oh ya 03:24:54 !kw -rm chequerstest 03:24:55 Deleted keyword: chequerstest => ikiller=uniqtest 03:25:01 !kw -rm uniqtest 03:25:01 !kw -rm uniqtest 03:25:01 No user keyword 'uniqtest' 03:25:02 No user keyword 'uniqtest' 03:25:06 oh right not added 03:25:06 der 03:25:30 !kw uniqtest 03:25:31 No keyword 'uniqtest' 03:26:19 i wish you could see like the top 10 dam values for !lg * t uniques 03:26:21 !lg * ikiller~~ijyb ikiller~~the x=cikiller 03:26:22 190. [cikiller=Ijyb] SirSamVimes the Charlatan (L2 KoAr), slain by Ijyb the wolf on D:2 on 2016-05-11 00:10:50, with 14 points after 710 turns and 0:01:39. 03:26:27 aha! 03:26:29 !lg * t uniques s=dam 03:26:30 you could use cikiller 03:26:31 2992 games for * (t uniques): 262x 6, 226x 7, 211x 4, 207x 5, 205x 8, 183x 3, 180x 9, 152x 2, 150x 10, 144x 11, 130x 12, 127x 13, 98x 14, 90x 1, 73x 15, 64x 17, 63x 16, 46x 18, 43x 20, 40x 19, 37x 21, 29x 22, 27x 23, 21x 28, 19x 24, 18x 27, 16x 26, 15x 25, 12x 30, 10x 32, 9x 34, 8x 36, 8x 37, 8x 29, 7x 33, 7x 31, 6x 40, 5x 38, 4x 35, 4x 39, 3x 48, 2x 49, 2x 45, 2x 55, 2x 42, 2x 43, 71, 72, 51, 41,... 03:26:35 even on poly, it's ijyb 03:26:42 nice 03:26:44 !kw uniques 03:26:45 Keyword: uniques => uniques1|uniques2|uniques3|uniques4 03:26:52 ugh 03:26:55 !kw uniques1 03:26:56 Keyword: uniques1 => ikiller=agnes|aizul|antaeus|arachne|asterion|azrael|blork_the_orc|boris|cerebov|crazy_yiuf|dissolution|donald|dowan|duvessa|edmund|the_enchantress|erica|erolcha|eustachio|fannar|frances|frederick|gastronok|gloorx_vloq|grinder|grum 03:27:03 !kw uniques1 cikiller=agnes|aizul|antaeus|arachne|asterion|azrael|blork_the_orc|boris|cerebov|crazy_yiuf|dissolution|donald|dowan|duvessa|edmund|the_enchantress|erica|erolcha|eustachio|fannar|frances|frederick|gastronok|gloorx_vloq|grinder|grum 03:27:04 Defined keyword: uniques1 => cikiller=agnes|aizul|antaeus|arachne|asterion|azrael|blork_the_orc|boris|cerebov|crazy_yiuf|dissolution|donald|dowan|duvessa|edmund|the_enchantress|erica|erolcha|eustachio|fannar|frances|frederick|gastronok|gloorx_vloq|grinder|grum 03:27:07 !kw uniques2 03:27:07 !kw uniques3 03:27:08 Keyword: uniques2 => ikiller=harold|ignacio|ilsuiw|ijyb|jessica|jorgrun|jory|joseph|josephine|khufu|kirke|lom_lobon|louise|mara|margery|maud|maurice|menkaure|mennas|mnoleg 03:27:08 Keyword: uniques3 => ikiller=natasha|nergalle|nessos|nikola|norris|pikel|polyphemus|prince_ribbit|psyche|purgy|robin|roxanne|rupert|saint_roka|sigmund|snorg|sojobo|sonja|terence|tiamat 03:27:08 !kw uniques4 03:27:09 Keyword: uniques4 => ikiller=urug|vashnia|wiglaf|xtahua 03:27:16 !kw uniques2 cikiller=harold|ignacio|ilsuiw|ijyb|jessica|jorgrun|jory|joseph|josephine|khufu|kirke|lom_lobon|louise|mara|margery|maud|maurice|menkaure|mennas|mnoleg 03:27:17 Defined keyword: uniques2 => cikiller=harold|ignacio|ilsuiw|ijyb|jessica|jorgrun|jory|joseph|josephine|khufu|kirke|lom_lobon|louise|mara|margery|maud|maurice|menkaure|mennas|mnoleg 03:27:22 !kw uniques3 c 03:27:23 Defined keyword: uniques3 => c 03:27:24 !kw uniques3 cikiller=natasha|nergalle|nessos|nikola|norris|pikel|polyphemus|prince_ribbit|psyche|purgy|robin|roxanne|rupert|saint_roka|sigmund|snorg|sojobo|sonja|terence|tiamat 03:27:26 Defined keyword: uniques3 => cikiller=natasha|nergalle|nessos|nikola|norris|pikel|polyphemus|prince_ribbit|psyche|purgy|robin|roxanne|rupert|saint_roka|sigmund|snorg|sojobo|sonja|terence|tiamat 03:27:34 !kw uniques4 cikiller=urug|vashnia|wiglaf|xtahua 03:27:36 Defined keyword: uniques4 => cikiller=urug|vashnia|wiglaf|xtahua 03:27:42 !lg * uniques t s=cikiller 03:27:45 2953 games for * (uniques t): 402x Sigmund, 362x Natasha, 268x Grinder, 253x Robin, 185x Crazy Yiuf, 162x Pikel, 120x Terence, 118x Menkaure, 102x Ijyb, 86x Duvessa, 65x Jessica, 62x Snorg, 56x Prince Ribbit, 48x Eustachio, 48x Joseph, 47x Gastronok, 46x Erica, 44x Maud, 40x Dowan, 37x Edmund, 36x Erolcha, 35x Rupert, 30x Grum, 28x Urug, 18x Purgy, 18x Nessos, 17x Sonja, 17x Harold, 15x Maurice, 1... 03:27:56 !lg * uniques t s=dam o=-. 03:27:59 2954 games for * (uniques t): 92x 1, 148x 2, 178x 3, 209x 4, 203x 5, 257x 6, 219x 7, 202x 8, 181x 9, 146x 10, 143x 11, 126x 12, 124x 13, 98x 14, 69x 15, 64x 16, 64x 17, 46x 18, 38x 19, 44x 20, 37x 21, 29x 22, 27x 23, 19x 24, 15x 25, 17x 26, 19x 27, 21x 28, 8x 29, 12x 30, 7x 31, 10x 32, 7x 33, 9x 34, 4x 35, 9x 36, 8x 37, 5x 38, 4x 39, 6x 40, 41, 2x 42, 2x 43, 2x 45, 46, 47, 3x 48, 2x 49, 50, 51, 2x... 03:28:02 !lg * uniques t s=dam o=. 03:28:05 2954 games for * (uniques t): 96, 85, 73, 72, 71, 69, 66, 62, 2x 55, 2x 54, 2x 52, 51, 50, 2x 49, 3x 48, 47, 46, 2x 45, 2x 43, 2x 42, 41, 6x 40, 4x 39, 5x 38, 8x 37, 9x 36, 4x 35, 9x 34, 7x 33, 10x 32, 7x 31, 12x 30, 8x 29, 21x 28, 19x 27, 17x 26, 15x 25, 19x 24, 27x 23, 29x 22, 37x 21, 44x 20, 38x 19, 46x 18, 64x 17, 64x 16, 69x 15, 98x 14, 124x 13, 126x 12, 143x 11, 146x 10, 181x 9, 202x 8, 219x... 03:28:16 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 03:28:29 this is starting to look like my query with sequell usually does 03:29:40 !lg * uniques t s=trunc(dam,10) o=. -graph 03:29:41 Wow, Natasha beats Grinder? 03:29:42 2955 games for * (uniques t): https://shalott.org/graphs/562af1e39027ecc27bf1e4d4144f9f5bcb6140d0.html 03:30:05 -!- Klaymen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:31:10 oh she's just more common I guess 03:31:56 -!- Erik_the_Red has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:32:39 -!- DaneiTHREE has quit [Quit: Those who tell the truth shall die, those who tell the truth shall live forever.] 03:33:47 so uh...is it intentional that mercenaries' items are permanent if you hire them, and summoned if you refuse? seems weird 03:41:28 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:44:58 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:45:01 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:46:56 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:53:08 -!- kuniqs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:57:12 [11 06:29] Did we ever resolve the os x build situation? 03:57:26 all built, some tested 04:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:25 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 04:00:28 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8376576/crawl_osx-0.18.1.dmg https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8376576/crawl_tiles_osx-0.18.1.dmg https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8376576/crawl_osx-0.17.2.dmg https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8376576/crawl_tiles_osx-0.17.2.dmg 04:00:29 geekosaur: yeah, I'll probably sort out the builds tomorrow and get them up 04:00:36 thanks, was going to have to search for those 04:01:20 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 04:01:29 probably just a note about having to copy the application to a folder 04:01:38 on said download page 04:02:45 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:04:00 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:04:09 not needed 04:04:53 I found out that the default for dmg files is not hfs+ so the signature was split out while the .app was in the dmg; finder reassembles it when copied to disk 04:05:08 so I modified the dmg build to make it hfs+ and now it works in place 04:05:18 and validates in place, more importantly from my pov 04:06:19 as for needing to search, I think you can just bookmark https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8376576/ in a browser? 04:07:41 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:07:49 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 04:09:04 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:09:52 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:10:03 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:15:03 -!- grammus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:17:09 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:17:20 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:17:33 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest94517 04:17:39 geekosaur: oh, that's great then 04:18:17 let me just put them up right quick then 04:18:38 and I don't have bookmarks in my lynx browser, sorry 04:21:01 fine, shell alias :p 04:21:13 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 04:21:34 although dropbox.com is js-happy so I'm not sure lynx will work well there 04:21:42 -!- kogasa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:22:05 -!- Guest94517 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:31:02 -!- FunkyBomb has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:33:57 -!- Shinino has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:33:59 alright, all packages are up and pages updated, so we should be good 04:34:32 -!- buki_ is now known as buki 04:35:45 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:36:20 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:36:20 -!- GauHelldragon2 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:47:47 -!- Zargon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:50:48 -!- Twinge has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:51:27 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 04:54:04 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:57:49 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:59:06 -!- Sorbius has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:59:18 -!- maha_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 46.0.1/20160502172042]] 05:00:05 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00:16 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 05:21:36 can mbase_speed be comoared to player_move_speed using "int"? 05:22:21 or is there a value that would be better, that's already the right kind of variable? 05:22:56 to get around "error: ISO C++ forbids comparison between pointer and integer" 05:28:20 -!- edsrzf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:28:33 -!- HalfStep has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:29:02 ??cigotuvi's embrace 05:29:02 Cigotuvi's Embrace[1/4]: L5 Necro. Turns corpses in LOS into AC/SH. Decays over time, and you may lose a point when you get hit or block an attack; more likely if you have more corpses, less likely with higher spellpower. 05:49:13 -!- wheals_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:53:36 how strong is bolt of draining in terms of damage output in comparison to bolt of venom and lightning bolt? 05:59:18 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:04:48 actually 06:04:57 why is Necromancer a recommended start for DE 06:06:00 -!- Zargon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:15:33 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:16:59 -!- dgwz has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:25:18 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:29:55 -!- Ubk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:30:12 -!- AltReality has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:30:28 -!- Ubk has joined ##crawl-dev 06:38:17 -!- starbutterfly has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:40:14 -!- neunon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:41:58 -!- ldf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:46:12 -!- fazisi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:47:12 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 06:52:39 -!- crate has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:17:16 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 07:47:20 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 07:59:54 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:01:28 -!- moxian has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:02:17 -!- moxian has joined ##crawl-dev 08:09:22 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 08:10:09 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:18:37 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:29:37 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:30:23 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:30:50 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:31:40 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 08:35:43 -!- Wolpertinger has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:38:15 !apt DE 08:38:15 DE: Fighting: -2*, Short: 0, Long: -1, Axes: -2, Maces: -3*, Polearms: -3*, Staves: 0, Slings: -2, Bows: 1, Xbows: -1, Throw: 0, Armour: -2, Dodge: 2, Stealth: 3, Shields: -2, UC: -2*, Splcast: 3!, Conj: 1, Hexes: 3, Charms: 4!, Summ: 1, Nec: 2!, Tloc: 1, Tmut: 1, Fire: 1, Ice: 1, Air: 0, Earth: 1, Poison: 1, Inv: 1, Evo: 1, Exp: -1, HP: -2, MP: 2! 08:38:32 b/c of Nec: 2! ? 08:43:14 I guess 08:44:12 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:47:12 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:49:27 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:51:36 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:00:58 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 09:06:22 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:09:02 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:09:23 Leszczynek (L6 OpSk) ASSERT(load_mode != LOAD_VISITOR) in 'files.cc' at line 1280 failed. (D:255) 09:10:30 <|amethyst> took an excursion, probably with X[], to a level that didn't exist in the save 09:16:03 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:18:20 answer: no. (you can't say mbase_speed < int player_movement_speed, nor < mv, nor just < player_movement_speed) 09:18:57 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:19:32 <|amethyst> fixit_friend: two things 09:19:45 <|amethyst> fixit_friend: 1. player_movement_speed is a function, so you'd need to call it 09:20:36 <|amethyst> fixit_friend: 2. player "movement speed" is actually movement *delay*, so is the reciprocal of speed; monster movement speed is actually speed 09:20:56 <|amethyst> oh, and 3. monster base speed isn't the same as movement speed 09:21:31 ah, ok. I looked at https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/player.cc#l1989 and I thought it was a variable inside a variable 09:21:51 <|amethyst> the () means it is a function that takes no parameters 09:22:02 <|amethyst> you need something like the logic in: 09:22:06 <|amethyst> !source _slouch_damage 09:22:06 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/godabil.cc#l3670 09:23:00 cool 09:23:33 <|amethyst> comparing multiplier * mon->speed / mon->action_energy(EUT_MOVE) against multiplier * BASELINE_DELAY * BASELINE_DELAY / player_movement_speed() / player_speed() 09:23:48 <|amethyst> where multiplier is there to keep integer rounding from just giving you 0 or 1 09:24:26 -!- moxian_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:24:28 I found a cheat where you just put "" around both sides of the equation to make travis-ci like it, but it doesn't actually work :D 09:25:02 time to try one more time, slouch-style. thanks! 09:28:42 -!- moxian has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:34:39 -!- beogh has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:36:41 i just realised 4Hooves2Appendages probably means a centaur 09:37:00 at least that's the only understanding of the name that makes sense to me 09:40:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:40:38 unless you count horns as "appendages" 09:40:54 (makes at least as much sense as crawl...) 09:41:53 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:42:00 oh, guess minos don't have hooves, it's the head 09:42:03 derp 09:45:42 most non-crawl non-greek minos do 09:45:51 but they only have 2 of them 09:46:03 real oxen would have four hooves and 2 horns though 09:51:20 -!- Alcopop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:59:23 -!- meatpath has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:02:40 -!- kuniqs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:03:07 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:07:50 -!- LordSloth has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:14:44 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:15:03 -!- gressup has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:15:37 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 10:24:00 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 10:27:33 -!- Datul has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:28:00 -!- Kat_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:29:48 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:38:35 -!- DDFi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:49:41 -!- Pachimari has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 10:54:00 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:02:34 -!- Dracunos7 is now known as Dracunos 11:04:28 -!- BlasterBlade has joined ##crawl-dev 11:06:50 Just dropped to say that Fedora package is updated and rpms to about to finish building: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:nazar554/crawl 11:13:41 thanks! 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SSH login info: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/console.html. Currently games are visible on Sequell, but CAO scoring is a work in progress. 15:36:34 look around here, for example 15:36:51 wheals: ? 15:37:13 i'm thinking of switching because of how many people are playing on cbro 15:37:35 what is this autoplay even 15:37:51 "jorgrun.mp3" 15:39:06 wheals: the cjr admin is not cool but cool people playing on cjr are making the server cool at least ironically 15:39:15 also 15:39:19 &dump . 0.18 cjr 15:39:20 unknown/gammafunk/gammafunk.txt 15:39:24 need to fix 15:39:42 PleasingFungus: btw mac os x binaries are up, and geekosaur fixed the dmg filesystem, so there should be no warnings 15:39:51 have you updated the announcement post? 15:39:53 yes 15:39:59 but I'm not sure people are reading it at this point 15:40:02 excellent! 15:40:02 did so all the same 15:40:03 who knows 15:40:10 i updated your post asking for help finding hong 15:40:12 PleasingFungus: maybe try the dmg when you have a chance? 15:40:16 ah yeah, thanks 15:40:43 http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/crawl-0-18-pakellass-packrats/comment-page-1#comment-2485 oh dear 15:40:43 Finding Hong is at the least a good viral youtube video 15:41:31 !cmd =morgue_link.list 15:41:32 Command: =morgue_link.list => .echo >unknown|cao>http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata|cbro>http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue|cdo>http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/${1:-trunk}|clan>http://www.underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue|cpo>https://crawl.project357.org/morgue|cszo>http://dobrazupa.org/morgue|cue>http://www.underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue|cwz>http://webzook.net/soup/morgue/trunk|cxc>http://CRAWL.XTA... 15:41:39 weird how that happens for some os x users 15:41:41 random question 15:41:42 and not others 15:41:47 why isn't it possible to use LRD on trees 15:41:56 why would it be 15:41:58 gammafunk: for &dump need to add something to =morgue_link.list 15:42:00 they're not stone or metal 15:42:04 oh 15:42:17 elliptic: yeah, forgot about how you have to use that replace thingy since it's too long a list :( 15:42:18 or bone or ice 15:42:19 &rc . 0.18 cbro 15:42:19 !log * cjr 15:42:20 847. ZiBuDo, XL6 MiBe, T:3943: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/ZiBuDo/morgue-ZiBuDo-20160511-193905.txt 15:42:22 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-0.18/wheals.rc 15:42:26 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 15:42:29 gammafunk: the builds work for me, except that the tiles one needs to be extracted from the package or it'll complain about 'unknown developer 15:42:38 thst should not be true any more 15:42:51 i told you that it was 15:42:51 even after you made your last fix 15:42:51 sigh 15:42:58 !flip Apple 15:42:59 (╯°□°)╯︵ǝldd∀ 15:42:59 i feel like there's something really busted with our communication, tbh... 15:43:06 what?! problems with the os x build?! 15:43:34 Well look, the os x thing is really been frustrating, and I'm glad we've had geekosaur to help do anything 15:43:43 as opposed to, you know, no builds at all 15:43:51 which would be 0 os x builds, not a lot actually 15:44:03 very few 15:44:08 for sure 15:45:10 I guess os x stuff is somewhat hard to do outside of the apple store, and that's just the way it is 15:45:30 outside of having people do macports or fink or w/e 15:46:05 =replacecmd =morgue_link.list clan cjr>https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue|clan 15:46:07 Redefined command: =morgue_link.list => .echo >unknown|cao>http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata|cbro>http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue|cdo>http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/${1:-trunk}|cjr>https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue|clan>http://www.underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue|cpo>https://crawl.project357.org/morgue|cszo>http://dobrazupa.org/morgue|cue>http://www.underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue|cwz>http://w... 15:46:15 &dump gammafunk 0.18 cjr 15:46:17 unknown/gammafunk/gammafunk.txt 15:46:32 hm, why didn't that work 15:46:34 hrm 15:46:38 !cmd &dump 15:46:38 Command: &dump => !lm ${1:-.} fmt:"\$(=morgue_link ${2:-${src}} \$(if \$(match -a ${3:-${cv}}) trunk ${3:-${cv}}))/${name}/${name}.txt" stub:"No milestones for $(name_fixup ${1:-${user}})." 15:46:42 !lg gammafunk 0.18 cjr 15:46:43 2. gammafunk the Caller (L1 MuSu), quit the game on D:1 (dpeg_chamrin_arrival_tetris) on 2016-05-11 00:01:48, with 0 points after 0 turns and 0:00:30. 15:47:03 &dump gammafunk cjr 15:47:05 https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/gammafunk/gammafunk.txt 15:47:17 &dump . cjr 0.18 15:47:18 https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/gammafunk/gammafunk.txt 15:47:23 er 15:47:35 dumps aren't even version based, are they 15:47:40 that was my problem I guess 15:47:42 they are on CDO 15:47:46 oh, interesting 15:47:59 &rc . cjr 0.18 15:47:59 ?rc gammafunk cjr 15:48:03 &rc . 0.18 cjr 15:48:04 http://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/rcfiles/crawl-0.18/gammafunk.rc 15:48:12 so I guess all is well 15:48:35 yeah, confusing that the arguments are in opposite orders but this way works better when only giving one of the arguments 15:48:51 also in practice people are mainly just doing &dump gammafunk 15:49:00 for your most recent game 15:49:44 geekosaur: just to confirm, this "damage image" thing is basically a complete unknown wrt those packages at this point? 15:49:54 as in we don't have any way to help people with that? 15:50:00 *damaged image 15:50:15 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:50:24 PleasingFungus, im not really sure what you want me to see in there, but im not getting it 15:50:33 we verified md5sums between my original, someone who was seeing it, and someone who wasn't. no idea why it fails for some but not others 15:50:55 FormAttackVerbs(const char *_weak, const char *_medium, const char *_strong, const char *_devastating) 15:50:56 : weak(_weak), medium(_medium), strong(_strong), 15:51:16 this initializes the property "weak" with the parameter "_weak" passed to the constructor, etc 15:51:26 you probably want to do something similar for your own class 15:51:48 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 15:52:23 it's very roughly equivalent to something like FormAttackVerbs(const char *_weak, ...) { weak = _weak; } 15:52:27 (etc) 15:52:37 so you'd do that for your loc and so on 15:53:28 ok ill work on it 15:53:36 am I crazy, or has reading a fear scroll always given you a 'Fear' status light 15:54:09 option 1 15:55:04 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:55:39 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 15:55:40 !hs * t opsk 15:55:41 311. spelunker the Ninja (L27 OpSk of Gozag), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2016-05-11 19:18:16, with 22825152 points after 66345 turns and 6:50:10. 15:56:14 pretty good score 15:56:25 odd, it was doing so in dynast's game 15:56:43 guess i won't be aiming for top score 15:57:20 ah, must have been a giant orange brain involved 15:57:35 it cast Cause Giant Orange Fear 15:57:36 and the fear was incidental 15:57:52 i'm afraid 15:57:54 that is the case 15:57:55 8) 15:57:57 hehe, the dart slug chei altar is good 15:58:17 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:03:25 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:03:36 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:12:33 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:13:28 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 16:14:33 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:17:26 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 16:19:08 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:20:36 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:24:00 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:26:54 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:31:52 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:33:18 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 16:34:34 -!- Shinino_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:37:03 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:39:19 DMG is Damaged and can't be opened 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10411 by ngmatt8652 16:40:05 hm 16:40:10 i wonder if it's an issue with older versions of the os 16:40:12 since that is 16:41:34 that would be highly annoying given that signing doesn't work on older versions of the OS 16:41:35 -!- wheals_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:41:56 and transporting those signed bundles is exactly why I switched to dmgs 16:42:57 I suppose I could put up signed zips again --- with a caveat that *you must use ditto to unpack them, unzip will destroy the signatures* 16:43:19 !flip Apple 16:43:19 (╯°□°)╯︵ǝldd∀ 16:52:43 that, or this is the flip side of why I had to switch from signing on 10.9 to 10.11 --- I am seeing reports that this on *disk images* is gatekeeper seeing an invalid signature inside the image? 16:53:04 and pre-10.11 is convinced that my new signing certs are expired 16:54:28 so this may well be on Apple, they changed their certificates in such a way that older OS X believes they are invalid. 16:54:43 Developer ID certs expire annually 16:55:02 guess thats one way to stick it to people who don't or can't upgrade 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:06 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:00:55 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:03:25 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 17:05:39 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:05:43 !lg * t s=day(start),src -graph:line 17:05:44 Unknown chart type: Line 17:06:06 !lg * t s=day(start) -graph:area 17:06:14 -!- flappity_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:06:32 ^vps 17:06:32 CBRO disk usage=59% | RAM usage=38% | uptime/CPU= 17:06:32 up 545 days, 2:25, 4 users, load average: 1.04, 1.20, 1.21 17:06:36 -!- flappity_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:06:38 23642 games for * (t): https://shalott.org/graphs/3a84900707d7b594fafc4d1f321d2328cc9bbade.html 17:06:39 johnstein: is the 4 users thing just local logins? 17:06:48 since that's not how many crawl procs are running 17:06:51 !lg *t s=day(start),src -graph:area 17:06:51 No keyword '*t' 17:06:52 gammafunk: all the crawl procs are the same user 17:07:01 right? 17:07:02 -!- blamistanz has quit [Quit: au rev] 17:07:06 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:07:08 crawl. crawl-dev is likely logged into a screen 17:07:10 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:07:15 well, I guess I should say 17:07:19 crawler is the ssh user 17:07:21 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:07:23 that number of crawl procs might be more useful 17:07:27 to display 17:07:29 then maybe www-data 17:07:30 yea 17:07:36 I should update it 17:07:41 -!- GauHelldragon has joined ##crawl-dev 17:09:15 !lg * t s=day(start),src -graph:area 17:09:16 23656 games for * (t): https://shalott.org/graphs/6e36ff1fdff07897722a42f6e76bb2ce53b906f4.html 17:09:40 -!- Wax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:10:20 !lg * tall cbro s=day(start) -graph:area 17:10:30 42516 games for * (tall cbro): https://shalott.org/graphs/ea1b2b5714ffd9440d145c2956f1f2b46f21ec23.html 17:14:47 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:16:18 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:18:22 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:20:34 -!- destrovel has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:20:47 -!- miek_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:23:47 -!- miek_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:30:26 dang, wheals has a death wish for the worst nchoices 17:30:39 !lg wheals t s=char 17:30:39 9 games for wheals (t): 6x DEAM, 3x OpSk 17:30:51 i saw OpSk was on the list and i was like, naw, forget nchoices, i'll try MuNe 17:31:34 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 17:34:17 !speedzot5 17:34:27 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:34:29 oh I think I revisited 17:34:31 too bad 17:34:35 gammafunk's fastest Zot:5 enter to Orb retrieval: 26 turns 17:35:25 !speedzot5 17:35:31 amalloy's fastest Zot:5 enter to Orb retrieval: 16 turns 17:35:39 !lm gammafunk sphu 17:35:47 55. [2016-05-11 21:29:33] gammafunk the Imperceptible (L23 SpHu of Dithmenos) found the Orb of Zot! (Zot:5) 17:35:47 that would have been a record though 17:35:55 or a pb rather 17:36:04 second tele was 3 spaces from orb 17:36:09 nice 17:36:22 pretty awful char though 17:36:24 my last game, first tele dropped me one space away from apport range 17:36:27 would not build it that way again 17:36:34 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:36:40 yeah i was surprised you were pushing for malign gateway so early 17:36:41 the -2 summons apt is just kind of painful 17:36:49 well malign wasn't the issue tbh 17:36:53 with tloc malign was good 17:36:58 it's the other spells that took forever 17:37:05 !log gammafunk 17:37:06 3722. gammafunk, XL23 SpHu, T:89287: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/gammafunk/morgue-gammafunk-20160511-213506.txt 17:37:15 but yeah I can't see really using malign on a char like that I guess 17:37:21 since you do have to get a bunch of summons 17:37:41 maybe if you only used malign it would be cool but that's 10 summons just to use one spell 17:37:48 yeah 17:38:03 when I could just use a different god or evos or conj or something 17:38:06 !apt sp 17:38:08 Sp: Fighting: -2*, Short: 1, Long: -2, Axes: -2, Maces: -3*, Polearms: -3*, Staves: -3*, Slings: 2, Bows: 2, Xbows: 0, Throw: 0, Armour: -3*, Dodge: 4!, Stealth: 5!, Shields: -3*, UC: -2*, Splcast: 2, Conj: -3*, Hexes: 2, Charms: 4!, Summ: -2, Nec: -1, Tloc: 4!, Tmut: 3!, Fire: -2, Ice: -2, Air: -1, Earth: -1, Poison: 0, Inv: 0, Evo: 3!, Exp: -1, HP: -3, MP: 1 17:38:15 god they do have conj -3 17:38:33 guess ash takes a lot of the pain from that away 17:38:40 so maybe the summons thing is likewise a good ash thing 17:38:52 not so much a good thing when you can't cheat skill levels 17:39:01 !log . sp won 17:39:02 1. amalloy, XL24 SpEn, T:73422: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/amalloy/morgue-amalloy-20150405-022840.txt 17:39:16 my first orb ninja. i did actually go for menag 17:39:17 never found invis that game, sad 17:39:19 and malign 17:39:31 yeah your char is more of a melee guy 17:39:40 mine are usually more of a melee guy than yours 17:39:41 which is totaly viable of course, but I don't much like melee spriggans 17:39:44 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:39:51 !log . de 17:39:52 9. amalloy, XL27 DEWz, T:97158: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/amalloy/morgue-amalloy-20160511-025856.txt 17:39:59 or rather those that lose stealth to wear armour, I don't like 17:40:10 check out that skill/xl table 17:40:11 uh, there's no cap on drain i guess? 17:40:24 ProzacElf: your skills can't go below 0 17:40:28 oh well 17:40:30 awesome 17:40:32 but you can have enough drain that your skills would be lower 17:42:58 so your skills stay at zero until you clear out that drain? 17:43:10 yeah, perfect 17:43:15 the only banner I got that game 17:43:21 "Descent into Madness" 17:43:25 good description 17:43:33 ProzacElf: yes 17:43:39 sweeeet 17:43:46 !gameinfo ProzacElf 17:43:46 <|amethyst> hm, am I reading this code right? Ash doesn't provide bonuses to skills that are drained? 17:43:47 ProzacElf the L12 CeAM^Nem in Lair:3 (cbro tiles), T:18497, defenses: 19/5/0, stats: 24/12/11, >15 skills: Bows 17:43:55 |amethyst: that would surprise me 17:44:04 &dump ProzacElf 17:44:05 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/ProzacElf/ProzacElf.txt 17:44:29 are you so badly drained all your skills are zero, for real, ProzacElf? 17:44:32 i've already recovered a good bit 17:44:48 no, but once my fighting got down to 2 i was starting to worry about it a bit 17:44:57 |amethyst: where is the code that makes you think that? 17:44:59 luckily, being a centaur makes it relatively easy to not die 17:45:51 -!- fixit_friend has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:46:03 <|amethyst> amalloy: in player::skill, if (drained && you.attribute[ATTR_XP_DRAIN]) { ... return blah; } 17:46:06 <|amethyst> amalloy: before the ash boosts 17:46:16 <|amethyst> amalloy: drained == true is the default 17:47:09 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:47:55 <|amethyst> amalloy: it's not actually working that way, so now I'm trying to figure out why 17:48:07 yeah, i just confirmed that as well 17:48:22 <|amethyst> ohh 17:48:32 HaWz nem choice, the PleasingFungus special 17:48:33 <|amethyst> there's a recursive call just before that with drained == false 17:48:36 <|amethyst> okay, makes sense now 17:51:23 gammafunk: excellent fungus dissing on SA! Way to prepare the crowds for species removal! :) 17:51:44 ha, praising both sides? i see how it is... 17:52:24 PleasingFungus: I was an Agitator in GDR (East Germany = Soviet) times :) 17:52:31 !! 17:52:39 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:52:51 fun fact: chancellor Merkel was agitator, too! 17:54:26 wasn't she a physicist 17:54:53 yes, but work and propaganda is not a contradiction 17:54:59 true! 17:56:33 she had some function in the Free German Youth (almost obligatory mass youth organisation) 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:19 TeTm, huh? nemelex is a jerk 18:00:30 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:02:14 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:02:15 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:03:37 -!- Guest94504 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:04:07 !apt te 18:04:08 Te: Fighting: 0, Short: 1, Long: 1, Axes: 1, Maces: 1, Polearms: 1, Staves: 1, Slings: 0, Bows: 1, Xbows: 1, Throw: 0, Armour: 1, Dodge: 1, Stealth: 1, Shields: 0, UC: 1!, Splcast: -1, Conj: 3!, Hexes: -3, Charms: -2, Summ: 2!, Nec: 1, Tloc: -2, Tmut: -2, Fire: 1, Ice: -1, Air: 3!, Earth: -3*, Poison: 0, Inv: -1*, Evo: 0, Exp: 0, HP: -2, MP: 1 18:04:14 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: night] 18:04:32 i'm terrible at Te-- though. will be good practice 18:05:19 honestly the positive UC apt is pretty nuts. i am having a way easier time hitting stuff than i expected 18:05:52 amalloy: the auxes help too 18:06:09 although if you mean accuracy in particular, then yeah that's all the uc 18:06:44 yeah, i am mostly seeing "You hit the kobold!" and not like "You peck the kobold!" 18:07:02 tetm is pretty ok though, -2 for a school where you don't need too much of a secondary school to use all the main spells is ok 18:07:07 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 18:07:12 although statue form would not be super fun 18:07:35 yeah, i agree. TeTm is not as bad as it sounded to me at first 18:11:43 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 18:13:06 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:13:20 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:14:08 random question 18:14:10 ??sandblast 18:14:11 sandblast[1/1]: Wield stones (sling bullets don't count) to do more damage and increase range from 2 to 3 with this spell. Sandblast with stones maxes out at 2d20 damage, although damage reduction from enemy AC is applied three times instead of once. Og and Tr can use large rocks, with damage maxing out at 3d20. To-hit: 13+power/10 with ammo, 8+power/5 otherwise. 18:14:30 how much damage does sandblast do at max spellpower without stones 18:15:55 1d14, i think 18:16:18 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 18:16:51 not bad 18:17:20 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:18:38 -!- wheals_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:35:43 what's the difference between these two lines: erase_if(items_to_list, [&](const item_def* item) { return item->base_type != type_expect; } ); and erase_if(items_to_list, [](const item_def* item) { return item->base_type != type_expect; } ); 18:36:30 i know the difference is the pointer, but what is the impact on whats happening to items_to_list 18:36:52 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:37:09 is it still getting the proper type in the vector if items_to_list is filled with type const item_def* 18:38:20 the one with [] shouldn't work, right? 18:38:35 right, it says something about lambda stuff 18:38:37 because it needs to capture type_expect 18:38:42 and [] says not to capture anything 18:38:47 see http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/lambda 18:40:25 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 46.0.1/20160502172042]] 18:42:04 i would be inclined to use [=] instead, since there is no obvious need to capture by reference, and the value we're capturing is small 18:43:10 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:46:07 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:50:39 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:54:44 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:56:34 -!- Insomniak has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 18:59:09 will that still work if the value is an int enumerated as OBJ_POTIONS? 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:00:04 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:00:41 -!- lukano has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:01:45 it appears to 19:02:36 it will work best for ints, because they are small and easy to copy (which is what [=] does) 19:02:49 for large objects you'd prefer to capture by reference with [&] 19:04:11 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:05:15 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 19:07:49 k 19:13:08 -!- JiharoDC has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:16:29 -!- Dracunos has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:17:37 !kw gfspeed 19:17:37 Keyword: gfspeed => char=deie|desu|grgl|heie|hesu|hogl|mibe|musu|vsie|vsfi 19:18:05 !kw gfspeedtest name=gammafunk char=char=deie|desu|grgl|heie|hesu|hogl|mibe|musu|vsie|vsfi 19:18:06 Defined keyword: gfspeedtest => name=gammafunk char=char=deie|desu|grgl|heie|hesu|hogl|mibe|musu|vsie|vsfi 19:18:27 !kw gfspeed name=gammafunk char=char=deie|desu|grgl|heie|hesu|hogl|mibe|musu|vsie|vsfi 19:18:27 Defined keyword: gfspeed => name=gammafunk char=char=deie|desu|grgl|heie|hesu|hogl|mibe|musu|vsie|vsfi 19:19:05 !cmd .splatratio !lg ${1:-.} $* title:"% of xl17 chars killed $*" !gfspeed !boring xl>=17 recentish s=name / !won o=-% ?: den.N>5 19:19:06 Redefined command: .splatratio => !lg ${1:-.} $* title:"% of xl17 chars killed $*" !gfspeed !boring xl>=17 recentish s=name / !won o=-% ?: den.N>5 19:19:18 -!- Dracunos_ is now known as Dracunos 19:20:41 gammafunk: char=char= ...? 19:21:03 !kw gfspeed name=gammafunk char=deie|desu|grgl|heie|hesu|hogl|mibe|musu|vsie|vsfi 19:21:04 Defined keyword: gfspeed => name=gammafunk char=deie|desu|grgl|heie|hesu|hogl|mibe|musu|vsie|vsfi 19:21:06 thanks 19:24:56 -!- fixit_friend has joined ##crawl-dev 19:26:43 cool that it worked 19:27:34 !lg gammafunk gfspeed xl>17 !won 19:27:35 27. gammafunk the Convoker (L18 MuSu of Sif Muna), blown up by an eye of devastation on Slime:6 (slime_pit) on 2016-01-11 01:59:18, with 278388 points after 25647 turns and 5:54:19. 19:27:41 !lg gammafunk gfspeed xl>17 !won s=turn 19:27:42 27 games for gammafunk (gfspeed xl>17 !won): 28558, 15908, 24956, 27544, 19874, 34905, 28695, 36572, 45834, 23681, 17625, 18845, 15382, 38129, 97826, 25647, 24155, 28112, 21742, 32262, 51418, 43810, 39542, 49424, 25852, 20657, 19668 19:27:52 gammafunk: wouldn't it be better to just cut off splatratio at a certain turn count 19:28:06 you know, rather than having a you specific exemption :P 19:28:19 probably not, no 19:28:28 I mean the real problem with it is related to that though 19:28:43 no way of knowing that someone is or is not doing a challenge run 19:28:52 but it's just a command for me 19:29:05 and I never want to see stats on those rns 19:29:07 *runs 19:29:27 it's not an exemption, it's querying what I want to look at 19:29:47 (that's why it's a . command and not a !) 19:30:09 if someone wants to make a general version then yes it shoudln't use any weird kw, but then it probably shouldn't use much of any kw at all 19:37:07 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:37:08 do player ghosts with axes maintain cleaving? 19:38:49 no 19:38:59 ghosts don't wield weapons; they just have branded attacks 19:39:31 ah 19:40:29 how can i backtrack where KnownMenu in itemname.cc actually gets 'drawn'? in shopping.cc ShopMenu has a function draw_menu which is an override of InvMenu draw_menu 19:42:39 nobodyhere (L15 HOFi) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 115: ZotDef: monster purple draconian zealot failed to pathfind to (39,43) (the Orb) (Zot (ZotDef)) 19:43:07 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:43:49 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:43:54 but i don't even see InvMenu having a function draw_menu 19:45:13 -!- bgiannan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:45:29 -!- WorkSight has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 19:46:43 zot def! 19:46:55 appropriate player name as well 19:47:06 how do i delete that player's account. zotdef has been dead for like a year and they deserve to die for playing it 19:48:43 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:48:57 %git f5d3f99dcb6e8cc09ee6e23a55cfbef9eb627d2b 19:48:57 07amalloy02 {gammafunk} * 0.17-a0-1031-gf5d3f99: Remove zotdef code. 10(12 months ago, 105 files, 239+ 3075-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f5d3f99dcb6e 19:49:15 one year ago. glorious memories 19:49:15 the millimarvins... 19:49:45 indeed i was the envy of all of -dev for scoring those 19:51:04 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:54:31 rip the best game mode 19:56:59 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:59:09 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 19:59:30 -!- zizzlebop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:10:54 the first time I tried crawl, I didn't have the patience for dungeon. too much loot, not enough of an idea which is good, which loot is bad. 20:11:04 so i played a ton of zot def as a trmo, instead 20:20:08 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:33:49 The problem was that the original author of zot def was gone and there was no one maintaining it, not to mention that it was not a very popular game mode 20:34:11 If someone had been active in maintaining it and preferable improving it, it would have stayed around I'm sure 20:34:29 *preferably 20:40:21 ugh 20:42:11 !source add_entry 20:42:11 1/2. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/menu.cc#l300 20:42:36 !source add_entry 2 20:42:36 2/2. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/menu.h#l351 20:42:52 this has me so confused 20:43:42 one of those takes a pointer, the other takes a unique_ptr 20:44:02 a pointer of what type though? 20:44:17 MenuEntry *entry 20:44:21 that's a pointer to a MenuEntry 20:44:51 i mean, i'm not sure i understand what you're asking 20:46:24 I'm having a hard time finding what exactly a MenuEntry is... maybe I need to look for a struct? 20:46:35 !source MenuEntry 20:46:36 1/2. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/menu.h#l110 20:46:37 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 20:46:47 line 93 is a better link 20:46:57 it's a class 20:48:34 oh it's in the header that's why 20:48:35 thank you 20:48:52 np 20:49:22 definitions of types typically are in the header 20:50:08 also, non-static functions 20:51:30 definitions of types typically are in the header 20:51:43 to be fair I don't think this was true of crawl specifically until relatively recently 20:52:43 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:53:43 mm? 20:54:44 -!- read is now known as owl 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:05:05 -!- Dingbat_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:12:01 i've a vector filled with item_def*. assign the first object in the vector to i. trying every variation of MenuEntry *me = new MenuEntry(i.name()); just will not work 21:12:28 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:12:38 i.name(); i->name(); i->name; nothing will go 21:15:20 would have to see actual code and full error message... 21:21:38 -!- meatpath has joined ##crawl-dev 21:21:38 Naruni: what geekosaur said is good to remember in general. you've asked a lot of questions that involve paraphrasing code you've written or error messages you've received, and often more work is spent in decoding what you mean than it would take to figure things out from the computer's actual error message 21:21:53 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 21:22:19 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:22:30 -!- gressup_ has quit [Client Quit] 21:25:03 -!- BearGit has quit [Client Quit] 21:28:54 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:30:10 yermak's streak got griefed! 21:31:45 -!- eurtek has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:31:55 i wish the opposite would happen instead 21:31:58 i would go to way more funerals if there were streakers 21:32:49 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:35:04 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:35:58 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:36:10 -!- t4nk259 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:37:43 http://pastebin.com/9R1JUQU1 21:38:35 so of course you use the pastebin that's blocked here for insisting its users run with no security 21:38:44 oh sorry :) 21:38:52 pastie.org work for you? 21:39:21 never mind, I guess I need to set up a sandbox I can destrouy and recreate every time someone decides pastebin.com is the one true pastebin and I should open myself to watering hole attacks for them 21:39:29 http://pastie.org/10833441 21:40:26 it's just the worst in general really 21:40:42 hm. the third one should be right, I'd think 21:40:50 !source item_def::name 21:40:50 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/itemname.cc#l131 21:41:26 the third one, but you need a DESC_ 21:41:36 !source description_level_type 21:41:36 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/enum.h#l1368 21:41:46 Why can't entropy weavers open doors? 21:41:47 one of those things 21:41:56 pretty sure they can 21:42:11 %git :/[Ee]ntropy [Ww]eaver 21:42:11 07MarvinPA02 * 0.19-a0-22-gc91b278: Let entropy weavers open doors (#10384) 10(11 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c91b278225e6 21:42:15 yeah 21:42:18 Aha 21:42:26 maybe that's not in 0.18 21:42:46 It's not 21:42:52 thanks, wheals 21:44:59 right, I just dug out item_def and found name() doesn't have a 0-parameter version 21:45:00 ahaha 21:45:37 geekosaur, I love the level of vitriol you level at pastebin 21:45:50 how do you feel about http://dpaste.unisolinc.us/ ? 21:46:40 geekosaur is being tracked by spear phishing russian mafia members 21:46:43 I have some reason to be worried abotu sites that think I should run untrusted js on their say-so (look up "watering hole attack". then consider how Target got compromised. It's a thing) 21:48:01 yeah, I don't like pastebin either, I just really enjoyed the tirade :) 21:48:08 basically going after targets that are low value themselves but might be leveraged to gain access to higher value targets 21:48:58 ah i was confusing the MenuEntry thinking it will automagically make MenuEntryLevel = MEL_ITEM but i didnt consider item.name() needed DESC_INVENTORY or such 21:49:45 thanks 21:50:52 -!- Shasbat has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:51:55 Can I still streak across multiple servers or was that changed? 21:52:27 you can as long as the first game you start after the last winning game is on the new server 21:53:04 basically the first new game is tagged as part of the same streak 21:53:54 the !nick command can get you some pretty nice streaks too 21:54:21 create a new username for every char you play and only group the ones that make a win :P 21:54:32 that doesn't help with tournament streaks 21:54:42 oh yeah not with tournament 21:54:47 my bad 21:55:07 smells like ??winscumming 21:55:16 it is 21:55:20 but nobody has done it so meh 21:55:43 -!- Yermak has joined ##crawl-dev 21:55:50 elliptic: have you ever blacklisted a game in dcss_tourney? 21:56:27 I believe I need to add these two lines, following the syntax I found in old commit: 21:56:30 +name=Yermak:turn=422:char=SpHu:killer=a dart slug:place=D::1 21:56:33 +name=Yermak:turn=100:char=SpHu:killer=a giant gecko:place=D::1 21:56:43 as per 7f0e858 21:57:23 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:57:45 Suggestion: disable ctrl-G menu with monsters in sight. It's somewhat awkward when you choose your destination, wait couple of seconds for game to build the path and only then inform you about those monsters. 21:58:13 someone griefed Yermak's streak? 21:58:15 that's sad 21:59:01 ~people~ 21:59:03 I think the streak should still be active for the tourney since the real SpHu was started early enough 21:59:38 yeah, Yermak pointed that out just before in PM 22:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:01:15 oh 22:01:17 cene 22:01:20 !nchoice 22:01:29 CeNe: 0 wins || irum: CWZ, L14 Markscentaur of Yredelemnul || ksagri: CBRO, L12 Markscentaur of Okawaru || ldf: CDO, L5 Cudgeler of Ru || CALLOUS: CAO, L4 Grave Robber of No God || Piginabag: CAO, L1 Grave Robber of No God 22:06:54 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:07:19 chequers: why do you need to blacklist those games? 22:07:24 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 22:07:25 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 22:08:05 elliptic: just aesthetic reasons now, I think. Unless they will break yermak's streak 22:08:12 I guess a streak griefer who didn't understand tourney rules? yeah it won't 22:08:45 anyway I've never blacklisted an individual game/milestones before 22:08:59 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 22:08:59 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 22:09:11 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 22:09:15 iirc there is some blacklist functionality that the snark added before I took over the scripts but I don't know if it has ever been used 22:09:20 !lg * t killer=gastronok_the_juggernaut 22:09:21 No games for * (t killer=gastronok_the_juggernaut). 22:09:30 last used in 2010 22:09:43 !lg stupidnub SpAr d:22 22:09:44 1. stupidnub the Charlatan (L1 SpAr), blasted by an ogre-mage (bolt of lightning) on D:22 on 2009-08-02 05:52:18, with 106 points after 2282 turns and 0:10:17. 22:09:48 for this game 22:10:22 chequers: if you do try to blacklist the games, you will want to blacklist all the milestones they produced as well 22:10:37 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:10:37 !lg * t killer=gastronok_the_juggernaut 22:10:38 since otherwise scripts might be confused 22:10:38 1. wheals the Spear-Bearer (L11 OpSk of Nemelex Xobeh), demolished by Gastronok the juggernaut on Lair:1 on 2016-05-12 02:09:10, with 7627 points after 10002 turns and 0:32:03. 22:10:44 !lg yermak t s=src 22:10:45 11 games for yermak (t): 9x cxc, 2x lld 22:10:53 !lm yermak t s=src 22:10:53 722 milestones for yermak (t): 720x cxc, 2x lld 22:11:04 just the milestones for starting those games I guess 22:11:38 !lg * recent killer~~gastronok_the s=killer 22:11:39 37 games for * (recent killer~~gastronok_the): 12x Gastronok the juggernaut, 10x Gastronok the shard shrike, 5x Gastronok the hellephant, 3x Gastronok the titan, Gastronok the shard shrike (shapeshifter), Gastronok the caustic shrike (glowing shapeshifter), Gastronok the caustic shrike, Gastronok the storm dragon, Gastronok the azure jelly, Gastronok the iron dragon, Gastronok the titan (glowing s... 22:11:42 and then you'll need to wipe the tourney's sql database and rebuild everything 22:11:43 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:11:59 gastrojug already overtaken gastroshrike i see 22:12:12 !nchoice muee 22:12:17 MuEE: 2 wins || Chris7: CBRO, L4 Digger of No God || Whaleporn: CBRO, L1 Digger of No God || willcat: CBRO, L1 Digger of No God || Avigdore: CAO, L1 Digger of No God || LaularuKyrumo: CAO, L1 Digger of No God 22:12:28 looking at the code, I *think* the blacklist applies to logfiles and milestones 22:12:39 i'll give it a shot locally and see what happens, I guess 22:14:52 ??sid 22:14:52 stat gain[2/2]: Ce sd/4 | DD si/4 | DE i/4 | Dg choose2/3 | Dr sid/4 | Ds sid/4 | Fe id/5 | Fo si/4 | Gh s/5 | Gr si/4 | Ha d/5 | HE id/3 | HO s/5 | Hu sid/4 | Ko sd/5 | Mf sid/5 | Mi sd/4 | Mu sid/5 | Na sid/4 | Og s/3 | Op sid/5 | Sp id/5 | Te sid/4 | Tr s/3 | Vp id/5 | VS sd/4 22:15:01 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 22:18:53 !won www 22:18:54 www has won 6 times in 50 games (12.00%): 1xDEWz 1xFoIE 1xGhEE 1xKoMo 1xMfFE 1xSpHu 22:19:04 wow i'm really letting the team down 22:19:04 -!- richardnixon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:19:24 maybe if i played non-godawful combos... i'd probably lose just as often 22:19:36 yeah i noticed you have a nose for the worst of the worst nchoices, wheals 22:19:42 it's becaus 22:19:44 !greatplayer 22:19:46 wheals: why did you poly gastro??! 22:19:54 Unwon species for wheals: Deep Elf, Mummy, Octopode 22:19:56 i didn't MEAN to, nem did it for me 22:20:08 haha 22:20:29 i got pretty shitty draws on that legendary destruction 22:20:56 need to remember to use draw three around gastro 22:21:16 amazingly "i didn't MEAN to, nem did it for me" is an answer to both chequers's question and mine 22:21:25 oh true 22:21:53 but i am choosing the shitty ones because i only have the bad species left 22:21:58 yeah 22:22:08 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:22:21 wheals: rip 22:22:41 hey, you're getting there 22:22:42 i've spent the last few versions when i play trying to win one 22:23:14 -!- Haitch has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:24:03 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 22:24:04 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:24:28 mm looks like i can get a free helmet this d:2 22:25:00 oh nvm this is ijyb 22:26:30 free wand of acid! 22:26:31 well it's always a good day when you can kill a goblin unique - bilbo baggins, probably 22:26:56 !lg www !gfspeed s=name / won o=% 22:26:57 6/40 games for www (!gfspeed): 2/2x gammafunk [100.00%], 3/7x amalloy [42.86%], 1/17x pleasingfungus [5.88%], 0/12x wheals [0.00%], 0/2x ontoclasm [0.00%] 22:27:01 imo get good 22:27:09 !lg gammafunk t won s=char 22:27:10 2 games for gammafunk (t won): SpHu, KoMo 22:27:15 i've forgotten how to play crawl 22:27:20 i think it involves splatting a lot, probably 22:27:22 just hit o and tab 22:27:25 -!- Finerminer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:27:25 hm 22:27:26 checks out 22:27:27 will try that next 22:27:36 !lg gammafunk !gfspeed t s=char 22:27:36 2 games for gammafunk (!gfspeed t): SpHu, KoMo 22:27:41 gammafunk won a spriggan on his first try and now he's all high and mighty 22:27:42 nice baby mode chars 22:27:51 uh Ko? weak species 22:27:55 !lastgames . t 22:27:56 Last 10 games for amalloy: L5 TeTm^ (a gnoll), L8 MuNe^Oka (a centaur warrior), L27 DEWz^Veh (winning), L11 DgWz^ (an ugly thing), L11 VpVM^Oka (a gargoyle), L27 FoIE^Chei (winning), L24 GhEE^Ash (winning) 22:28:00 pfft 22:28:06 Ko is a weak species? 22:28:07 not like ha or something... 22:28:08 way weaker than HALFLING in fact 22:28:21 i won a deep elf, alleged by gammafunk to be very weak 22:28:21 amalloy: = hash tag winning 22:28:53 i wonder if there should be, like, some relative hd limit on the monsters xom will poly 22:29:08 to make gastrojug a little less common 22:29:42 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:30:10 PleasingFungus: do you hate fun? 22:30:15 absolutely 22:30:24 imo /poly gastro is funny, gastrojug is just mean 22:30:34 if it's xom 22:30:40 get what i mean? 22:30:53 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:31:12 i think there are a lot of things xom does that are just mean, and trying to fix one of them is fixing a dam with your finger 22:31:18 -!- GauHelldragon has joined ##crawl-dev 22:31:42 well that statement is not quite true 22:31:44 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:31:51 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:31:53 if it's meant to imply that xom effects can't be adjusted 22:31:59 !lg * ikiller~~gastronok ikiller!=gastronok 22:32:00 118. wheals the Spear-Bearer (L11 OpSk of Nemelex Xobeh), demolished by Gastronok the juggernaut on Lair:1 on 2016-05-12 02:09:10, with 7627 points after 10002 turns and 0:32:03. 22:32:07 ahh, so that's how this started 22:32:10 !lg * ikiller~~gastronok ikiller!=gastronok recent s=god 22:32:11 37 games for * (ikiller~~gastronok ikiller!=gastronok recent): 21x Xom, 8x Nemelex Xobeh, Gozag, , The Shining One, Kikubaaqudgha, Okawaru, Yredelemnul, Trog, Pakellas 22:32:34 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:32:35 I don't think any particular special casing for poly with gastro makes sense per se but if people wanted to altar the poly effect in a nice, general way 22:32:45 *alter 22:32:46 we really could just lower gastro hd 22:32:53 that'd reduce his damage, right? 22:32:58 accuracy a bit 22:33:01 not damage afaik 22:33:02 gammafunk: i'm absolutely not suggesting a special case 22:33:05 wheals: spell damage 22:33:06 airstrike damage isn't hd-based? 22:33:09 oh 22:33:13 airstrike is hd-based, yeah 22:33:20 Gastronok (06w) | Spd: 5 | HD: 20 | HP: 128-171 | AC/EV: 3/1 | Dam: 40 | 10items, 10doors, amphibious, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(80), 12drown | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 2231 | Sp: airstrike (0-50), slow, swiftness, sum.small mammal, cantrip | Sz: Big | Int: human. 22:33:20 %??gastronok 22:33:29 Gastronok (06w) | Spd: 5 | HD: 15 | HP: 91-132 | AC/EV: 3/1 | Dam: 40 | 10items, 10doors, amphibious, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(80), 12drown | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 1256 | Sp: airstrike (0-40), slow, swiftness, sum.small mammal, cantrip | Sz: Big | Int: human. 22:33:30 %??gastronok hd:15 22:33:39 apparently so 22:33:40 brutal 22:33:46 is airstrike damage as weird for monsters as for players 22:34:04 -!- simmarine_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:34:56 no 22:35:12 // Previous method of damage calculation (in line with player airstrike) had absurd variance. 22:35:14 lol 22:35:47 airstrike (0-300) 22:37:02 %git 46a63f79124f15b3f25700303cade8d25d00f039 22:37:02 07sorear02 * 0.6.0-a1-1871-g46a63f7: Nerf monster airstrike damage variance (bookofjude) 10(6 years ago, 1 file, 3+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/46a63f79124f 22:37:13 rip effects.cc 22:37:27 -!- archon2 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:38:00 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:38:09 maybe polymorph shouldn't be based on hd? 22:38:14 i think this was suggested before 22:38:55 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 22:39:47 bonus, fun q from the sa thread: what's the most useful thing for a new contributor with "some coding/graphics ability" to volunteer to work on? 22:40:27 i'm never sure what to say to those things. if there was something easy to code, it'd probably be done by now... i guess i'll suggest tiles 22:40:56 we tell people bug fixes a lot, but I doubt that's the most fun way to begin working on the codebase 22:41:21 what do you think the most fun way is? custom race, maybe? 22:41:47 personally i just recommend what i did: play the game, and pay attention, looking out for things that seem weird or you don't like 22:42:12 when you find something, do some digging with grep and see if you can figure out how to change it. ask in ##crawl-dev if you need help with that 22:42:45 %git 6233edf2a1a5d1921c88d418c5815618bd2fa902 22:42:45 07amalloy02 {|amethyst} * 0.17-a0-482-g6233edf: Fix targeting of Dithmenos spell-shadowing (#9614) 10(1 year, 1 month ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6233edf2a1a5 22:42:54 my first commit. nothing grand, but i noticed it acting weird in my game 22:44:15 a common pattern for open source projects is for the core team to have a little cache of easy-to-fix issues 22:44:25 ??implementables 22:44:25 implementables[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/search.php?project_id=1&category=Implementables&sticky_issues=on&sortby=last_updated&dir=DESC&highlight_changed=12&hide_status_id=80 22:44:38 i don't know how implementable those actually are, but that's what they're supposed to be 22:44:42 whenever a newbie comes along, say "ah, well airstrike damage is about 50% higher than it should be, here's the issue explaining the problem, go for it" 22:44:49 the thing is 22:44:52 we generally like to fix things 22:44:59 rather than leaving them around indefinitely 22:45:03 sure, every project does 22:45:19 <|amethyst> someone could implement my Nemelex design :) 22:45:23 but these projects say "the benefit of getting a newbie onboard is worth the cost of leaving this small bug around another few months" 22:45:58 i think that's misguided: leaving bugs lying around doesn't attract newcomers, even if you thought you could pick just the right bugs 22:46:11 -!- MarvinPA has left ##crawl-dev 22:46:27 %git 4e08597 22:46:27 07chequers02 {gammafunk} * 0.17-a0-408-g4e08597: Let troll leather armour regen work on player trolls 10(1 year, 1 month ago, 2 files, 6+ 15-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4e08597d369b 22:46:35 this would be an issue you could leave around, for example 22:46:38 that wasn't a bug 22:46:46 bugs usually get left lying around not by design but by lack of people to work on them 22:47:02 things can be issues and not bugs :) 22:47:43 some percentage of those will not be worth the effort for already overtaxed devs 22:48:18 %git c91b278 22:48:18 07MarvinPA02 * 0.19-a0-22-gc91b278: Let entropy weavers open doors (#10384) 10(11 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c91b278225e6 22:48:31 that's an issue I think would have been find to leave around a few months 22:48:34 actually 22:48:41 |amethyst's nem design would be a nice project 22:49:09 it does involve menu code, which is a bit...idiosyncratic? 22:49:22 !rng ash sif 22:49:23 The RNG chooses: sif. 22:49:23 <|amethyst> doesn't need to be a menu, could be a prompt 22:49:25 chequers: how much would that actually teach someone about crawlcode? 22:49:29 good rng 22:49:30 wrt weaver doors 22:49:40 !lg www won s=god 22:49:41 6 games for www (won): Vehumet, Cheibriados, Pakellas, Ashenzari, Ru, Dithmenos 22:49:54 oh do you get points based on what your clan has won? 22:50:04 eli5 22:50:08 ??t 22:50:08 tournament[1/5]: The 0.18 tournament until 20:00 UTC May 22. Rules: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/ Leaderboard: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/overview.html (not done yet!) 22:50:16 i think so. it's something anyway 22:50:36 nice how we've not duplicated a god 22:50:39 !lg www won s=crace 22:50:40 6 games for www (won): Kobold, Merfolk, Ghoul, Deep Elf, Spriggan, Formicid 22:50:43 !lg www won s=cls 22:50:44 6 games for www (won): Earth Elementalist, Fire Elementalist, Monk, Hunter, Ice Elementalist, Wizard 22:50:45 cool 22:50:48 if i win my current one, i'll mess everything up 22:50:55 luckily i'll probably splat 22:50:56 sounds like we're in the clear then 22:51:03 * PleasingFungus shakes a fist 22:51:13 -!- Ubk_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:51:24 some free software projects have a "low hanging fruit" selection of seemingly easy to fix/implement issues 22:51:33 Sum total of all individual points with the exception of "Species/Background/God wins" points (for which only the largest value of the bonus among the clan's wins is used, as described in that section), plus the "Clan points only" awards above. 22:51:42 which you aren't really leaving open but just have in the backlog I guess 22:51:44 PleasingFungus: I don't think you need to learn a lot about the code with contribution #1 22:52:12 you need to feel like you had fun fixing a bug that gets quickly merged and your work is thanked 22:52:23 v0v 22:52:27 remove thanks imo 22:52:43 chequers, you should go through mantis and create a list of such currently-open bugs. 22:52:48 this will be *your* contribution. 22:52:50 we can thank you for it! 22:53:12 i'm waiting until you all break and move to github issues :) 22:53:12 isn't that what implementables are supposed to be? 22:53:20 amalloy: yeah, it's just uncurated 22:53:40 !learn add chequers_todo curate implementables 22:53:40 chequers todo[2/2]: curate implementables 22:53:40 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:54:01 ??chequers_todo[1 22:54:01 chequers todo[1/2]: you regenerate a [little|moderately|much] faster -- for every mut 22:54:04 !learn del chequers_todo[1 22:54:06 Deleted chequers todo[1/2]: you regenerate a [little|moderately|much] faster -- for every mut 22:54:16 rip, whatever that was 22:54:30 fr replace all mutations with regen 22:54:34 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 22:54:36 simpler messaging for mutations 22:54:40 -!- maha_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 46.0.1/20160502172042]] 22:54:55 done, or you changed your mind? 22:55:06 -!- sneakyness has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:55:13 -!- Ubk has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:55:14 latter, it's not worth it 22:55:29 just means you get ugly duplication in mutation-data, but it's nbd 22:55:42 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 22:55:49 i'm all about user experience, not dev experience :P 22:55:55 i love devs 22:56:02 some of my best friends are devs 22:57:14 allow dev marriage now 22:57:19 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:57:23 NO SHIPPING 22:57:27 .oO { you can't have devils without devs } 22:58:12 this is all very unsound 22:58:32 -!- Ubk_ is now known as Ubk 22:59:45 -!- Suga_H has quit [Quit: Connection reset by beer.] 23:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:15 apparently zot:5 can be disconnected 23:00:25 -!- Staren has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:00:34 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:01:09 <|amethyst> oh, I had a commit sitting here 23:01:24 a good one? or... a bad one? 23:01:27 03|amethyst02 07* 0.19-a0-76-g295c512: Don't spawn traps that let lava lindwurms escape (minmay) 10(23 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/295c512924ba 23:01:52 should've put it on chequers' list! 23:02:25 oh yeah 23:02:27 can put fixing all the other vaults that might do this on the list 23:02:33 !learn del chequers_todo[1 23:02:34 Deleted chequers todo[1/1]: curate implementables 23:02:49 if the dev team moves to github issues I will happily triage 23:02:53 but I am not touching mantis :P 23:02:56 lmao 23:03:06 what's the problem with mantis? 23:03:25 haveyou tried to open a bug in mantis lately? 23:03:35 yes? 23:04:02 horrible UX 23:04:12 horrible seems like a very strong term. 23:04:33 not a modern style, sure. 23:05:08 managing more than a handful of bugs with the few tools GHI has is an exercise in frustration 23:06:20 it doesn't even have emojis PF 23:06:24 simply not usable 23:06:29 grim! 23:06:45 -!- grammus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:07:05 people using :doomguy: without having extensive classic doom game experience... 23:07:10 I think when you present users a bug report page with 8 fields, most of which ask questions that are often unanswerable by the reporter, you can call the UX "horrible" 23:07:14 i played it on the iphone 23:07:18 iphone!!!! 23:07:24 :) 23:07:25 millenial 23:07:34 chequers is acting VERY millenial rn, imo 23:07:41 that is a lot of fields 23:07:52 and a lot of the version choices are dumb 23:08:04 man I added my fair share of custom fields to bugzilla 1.8 23:08:11 yeah, I think our mantis is not teribly recent? 23:08:24 the crawl variant thing is terrible 23:08:31 <|amethyst> I think entirely freeform bug reports wouldn't be great either 23:08:46 github isn't freeform, if you don't want it to be 23:09:26 is there an example that you can point to of a project making good use of github issues? 23:10:03 hm 23:10:08 https://github.com/atom/atom/issues 23:10:19 do we have the ability to edit that report issue form? 23:10:33 PleasingFungus: https://github.com/blog/2111-issue-and-pull-request-templates 23:10:58 those are some pretty free-form bug reports that atom's using 23:11:01 unless i missed something 23:11:07 they don't use templates 23:11:31 I don't think many repos use templates, tbh 23:12:05 if you make a new issue 23:12:11 https://github.com/atom/atom/issues/new 23:12:19 they have some kind of pre-filled text 23:12:24 but it's like literally ascii text 23:12:30 with ascii-text check boxes 23:12:32 <|amethyst> gammafunk: markdown 23:12:38 yeah markdown 23:12:43 but still that's not a great UI I think 23:12:56 very js 23:12:57 i'm imagining trying to search for e.g. bug report vs vault submission vs w/e in this system 23:13:00 yeah I'm not sure how a pre-filled glorified text box is great 23:13:35 you can label issues, which can be used analogous to categories currently in mantis 23:13:40 i'd be fine with slimming down our current submission fields, though 23:13:52 the DEWZ are slightly overbuff 23:13:53 label:vault label:bugfix label:0.19 23:13:54 -!- gressup has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:13:56 <|amethyst> oh, labels can be applied by anybody? 23:13:57 and maybe fixing the horrible crawl variant thing 23:14:09 <|amethyst> I figured they were restricted to devs 23:14:15 |amethyst: configurable 23:14:16 i think that's true 23:14:18 oh 23:14:40 i thought labels were for contributors only too 23:14:52 I think the default is contributors only 23:14:57 wheals, you were talking about editing stuff on mantis earlier, right? 23:15:09 specifically i remember you talking about updating the versions 23:15:22 yeah i'm an admin but i don't know much about how it works 23:15:30 chequers: i don't see anyplace to change that in repos i own 23:15:47 like what would happen to old reports if some variants were removed 23:15:52 it would be nice to change, at the very least, the horrible 'crawl variant' field 23:15:56 yeah, I think it's just repo admins I think 23:16:03 -i think 23:16:55 many folks who use GHI use hooks that watch for special strings in comments and adjust labels 23:17:15 -!- simmarine_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:17:17 hahaha 23:17:41 if you want something like version labels, well, glwt 23:18:01 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:18:25 hm. wheals, can you give me the power of the admin? 23:18:34 or does it require a super-admin to give someone else admin 23:19:15 wow, 'crawl variant' is some insane composite field 23:19:45 just upgraded you from dev to admin 23:19:51 tyvm! 23:19:58 and got a peek at your email... 23:20:11 selling it to spammers for mad cash as we speak 23:20:13 i don't rmeember which email i used for mantis 23:20:39 Helmschank (L19 MiFi) ASSERT(a) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 964 failed. (No actor in stationary net at (38,38)) (Shoals:4) 23:21:44 net code... 23:21:47 not to be confused with netcode 23:21:47 Helmschank (L19 MiFi) ASSERT(a) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 964 failed. (No actor in stationary net at (38,38)) (Shoals:4) 23:21:55 ghost net 23:22:03 hm, crash on load? 23:22:03 that's not good. 23:22:36 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 46.0.1/20160502172042]] 23:23:27 <|amethyst> I don't think it's on load 23:23:30 <|amethyst> !crashlog 23:23:31 <|amethyst> !crashlog -2 23:23:33 13475. Helmschank, XL19 MiFi, T:48993 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Helmschank/crash-Helmschank-20160512-032134.txt 23:23:34 No milestones for -2 (crash). 23:23:39 <|amethyst> !crashlog * -2 23:23:40 13474/13475. Helmschank, XL19 MiFi, T:48986 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Helmschank/crash-Helmschank-20160512-032024.txt 23:24:03 <|amethyst> looks like ctrl-x 23:24:12 <|amethyst> I mean, it's still bad 23:24:31 but it could be worse! 23:24:31 johnstein: you should serve your morgue dirs with an explicit content-encoding header 23:24:35 <|amethyst> but at least you can say "don't look at it and maybe it won't crash" 23:24:57 johnstein: in nginx I have location /morgue/ { charset utf8; } 23:26:48 lmao, the project management page lists literally everyone who's ever registered 23:27:14 <|amethyst> oh, that's weird... if I ctrl-r my browser interprets it as UTF-8 23:27:24 <|amethyst> but if I ctrl-shift-r it is interpreted at latin-1 again 23:27:52 would anyone mind if i removed the "fr" categories, assuming that i first move existing things in those categories to something else? 23:27:54 they feel like clutter 23:28:05 -!- Suga_H has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:29:09 +1 23:29:18 <|amethyst> I guess move them all to "FR"? 23:29:18 holdover from the early days 23:29:21 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:30:11 it feels like there should be some way to avoid having a 'fr' category in the list of categories users can submit 23:30:20 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: huh? 23:30:28 i'm pretty sure the fr categories are already excluded when submitting something 23:30:30 oh 23:30:31 <|amethyst> yeah 23:30:32 i'm an idiot 23:30:33 rip 23:30:36 they do clutter it when you search though 23:30:49 -!- AltReality has quit [Client Quit] 23:30:56 -!- wheals has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:30:56 that's what i was thinking of, apparently 23:31:14 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:31:31 i'm gonna focus on trying to fix the 'operating system' thing, then 23:33:56 i have absolutely no idea where it is... 23:34:51 !nchoice 23:34:57 CeNe: 0 wins || irum: CWZ, L20 Crack Shot of Yredelemnul || ksagri: CBRO, L15 Crack Shot of Okawaru || wormsofcant: CBRO, L6 Grave Robber of Okawaru || CALLOUS: CAO, L5 Grave Robber of Elyvilon || Tegga21: CAO, L5 Skirmisher of Gozag || ldf: CDO, L5 Cudgeler of Ru 23:35:05 i guess i could play CeNe 23:35:16 "Grave Robber of Elyvilon" 23:35:21 good title 23:35:23 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 23:35:24 -!- xnavy_ is now known as xnavy 23:36:04 -!- simmarine_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:36:12 -!- Tickenest has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:37:28 googling suggests that i might have to go edit php 23:37:28 which seemsinsane 23:37:58 gotta say, chequers, if you dislike the user-facing mantis ui, you'd *hate* the admin stuff 23:38:16 <|amethyst> can one even fill out the OS by hand? 23:38:45 no, it's composited into the "crawl variant" dropdown 23:39:52 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:39:57 <|amethyst> what are you looking to do exactly? 23:40:12 <|amethyst> Is "Manage Global Profiles" what you're looking for? 23:40:37 hm 23:40:40 maybe 23:41:02 i want to merge all of the webtiles things together 23:41:28 and all the online console things, i guess 23:41:43 <|amethyst> probably make a new profile (two new profiles) for those, then delete the existing ones 23:41:44 i think it is very rarely useful to have the servers separated out there, and it is both confusing & clutter-y 23:41:50 -!- Beargit has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:42:11 <|amethyst> that won't affect existing bugs because AFAIK the profile doesn't actually get saved with the bug, only the values that it selected 23:42:17 sure 23:42:42 -!- xczxc has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:43:18 <|amethyst> hm 23:43:21 ? 23:43:42 <|amethyst> well, the profiles generally have three copies of each thing, for console/tiles/both 23:43:45 <|amethyst> err 23:43:51 <|amethyst> I mean, there are three copies of each profile 23:44:02 yeah 23:44:03 <|amethyst> that seems like it kind of goes against the purpose of using profiles 23:44:22 <|amethyst> when you could have the profile just select local/remote and OS, and leave console/tiles/both as a separate field 23:44:33 <|amethyst> that probably does require editing PHP or at least config files 23:44:59 yeah 23:46:03 i'm also gonna delete the DOS Console profile 23:47:49 -!- techieAgnostic is now known as tAFK 23:48:34 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:49:37 that's as much as i have stamina for now 23:49:50 a frustrating experience 23:50:01 in conclusion, remove ha 23:52:04 -!- tAFK has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:52:51 chequers: can you elaborate on your morgue suggestion? 23:54:24 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:59:31 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-76-g295c512 (34)