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ZZZzzz…] 00:05:59 is the view enemy hp function (formerly ctrl-v) still available with a different hotkey? 00:09:13 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:10:20 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-61-g4dc4c6e (34) 00:13:55 Stable (0.18) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18.1-5-g4a78601 00:15:16 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:16:45 -!- frogfrogfrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:17:05 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 00:18:52 "I would like to spank all PleasingFungus monsters" -gammafunk twitch quote 00:19:03 lmao 00:19:04 it's official(tm)! 00:19:14 was this in response to anything in particular? 00:19:41 I typed "spank the howler monkey on the way up, gammafunk" in response to "spank the lich" 00:20:05 ahh 00:28:06 hm, this complex and absolutely useless function was added with the note: " There are a couple of other files I changed, but I can't remember any big stuff, so it was probably just cleanup." 00:29:11 -!- StarButterfly has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:29:39 :) 00:29:50 link to the function in question? 00:30:06 n1: thanks for the report about pakellas banner typo, fixed btw 00:30:29 sure chequers it was not me who found it though! 00:31:18 who to blame? 00:31:38 nikheizen: command.cc:_cmdhelp_textfilter(), specifically complex insofar as it interacts with formatted_string::parse_string1() and other formatted_string functions 00:31:53 as far as i can tell, it does literally nothing 00:32:15 chequers, ChrisOellmueller 00:32:29 ty chfris 00:32:53 the legendary chriso.... 00:33:26 [muffled I'll Be Watching You plays in the distance] 00:48:26 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:50:12 -!- owl has joined ##crawl-dev 00:51:29 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:54:30 -!- mineral has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:58:00 !killratio robin * t 00:58:05 robin wins 10.44% of battles against * (t). 00:58:07 !killratio sigmund * t 00:58:10 !killratio grinder * t 00:58:13 sigmund wins 13.22% of battles against * (t). 00:58:17 grinder wins 12.85% of battles against * (t). 00:58:21 wow, huh 00:58:26 !killratio grinder * cv=0.16 00:59:10 grinder wins 20.24% of battles against * (cv=0.16). 00:59:24 !killratio grinder * cv=0.16 t 00:59:27 No battles for grinder and * (cv=0.16 t). 00:59:32 hm 00:59:36 !killratio grinder * t16 00:59:37 Subcommand $(!lg * t16 ikiller=grinder fmt:"${n}" stub:"0") failed: Unknown tournament: t16 in $(= ${ratio} NaN) in $(if $(= ${ratio} NaN) No ba... 00:59:45 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:59:45 !killratio grinder * t0.16 00:59:50 grinder wins 17.72% of battles against * (t0.16). 00:59:54 weird 01:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:06 possibly something specifically about early tournament players? 01:00:21 !killratio grinder * cv=0.18-a 01:00:26 grinder wins 16.02% of battles against * (cv=0.18-a). 01:00:35 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:03:31 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:06:39 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:06:57 !source command.cc 01:06:57 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/command.cc 01:09:43 Pre-release branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18.1-5-g4a78601 (34) 01:11:28 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:11:29 ^vps 01:11:29 CBRO disk usage=58% | RAM usage=41% | uptime/CPU= 01:11:28 up 542 days, 10:30, 9 users, load average: 2.08, 2.02, 2.08 01:11:56 not sure what to tell players who've reported cbro lag. I don't think it's any worse than normal 01:12:04 should be about the same 01:12:15 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 01:13:08 johnstein, hm, it's rather bad for me too 01:13:26 sort of intermittent 01:13:45 there's twice as much ram and it's a 4 core system so running at 1.5 to 3.0 cpu load should be OK 01:13:59 of course I haven't played much over the last year so maybe it's different or I misremembered how it was 01:14:36 gammafunk said that evoking polearms can cause lag. and I do see the python server process spike a lot. but it doesn't seem to be pushing the CPU too hard, and the ram should be OK. 01:14:37 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 46.0.1/20160502172042]] 01:14:43 -!- Svalin has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:14:54 -!- opik has quit [Client Quit] 01:15:07 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:15:40 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Client Quit] 01:18:17 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:19:31 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-61-g4dc4c6e (34) 01:29:41 -!- neizenel has joined ##crawl-dev 01:30:49 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:32:07 -!- nikheizen has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:33:04 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:33:46 -!- neizenel is now known as nikheizen 01:35:18 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:35:35 everyone complains about lag on every server during tournaments 01:37:42 are nem choice combos retroactively awarded or do you have to actually win one after it's announced? 01:38:09 you have to start a game after it's announced i think 01:39:09 -!- enz_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:44:11 -!- marsbars has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:46:08 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 01:50:52 !seen geekosaur 01:50:52 I last saw geekosaur at Mon May 9 02:41:49 2016 UTC (3h 9m 2s ago) saying 'I thought faded altars were going to be made more common?' on ##crawl-dev. 01:51:24 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:54:52 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-61-g4dc4c6e 01:57:20 amalloy: you actually can start an nchoice before it is chosen and it will count, but it is rather rare for this to happen 01:57:23 -!- lobf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:57:35 and if a combo has actually been won in the tourney already then it won't be chosen 01:57:41 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:57:41 -!- lobf_ is now known as lobf 01:57:52 elliptic: what if the set of legal nchoices is exhausted? 01:58:38 it either stops choosing nchoices or chooses among combos with a low tourney high score, I forget 01:58:59 (it has never happened, or even come that close to happening) 01:59:21 !nchoice 01:59:27 OpSk: 0 wins || osuadh: CBRO, L11 Carver of Dithmenos || HilariousDeathArtist: CBRO, L8 Sneak of Fedhas || CALLOUS: CAO, L6 Charmwright of Cheibriados || Coal: CAO, L4 Charmwright of Makhleb || magnet0r: CAO, L1 Charmwright of No God || irum: CWZ, L1 Charmwright of No God 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:35 -!- elliptic_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:02:03 -!- elliptic has quit [Disconnected by services] 02:02:10 -!- elliptic_ is now known as elliptic 02:02:38 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:02:55 -!- elliptic is now known as parabolic 02:04:03 -!- parabolic is now known as elliptic 02:09:08 -!- Rast has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:09:58 amalloy: there are ~100 02:10:05 i know there are 02:10:24 but there are easily more than 100 wins per t. it could happen if a few players who know what the nchoice list is decided to make it happen 02:10:32 yup 02:10:40 * chequers narrows eyes and galres at the devs 02:11:01 Galare 02:11:05 good unique name 02:11:47 i am at a point in the string formatting code where i wonder how it ever worked at all. 02:12:33 Stable (0.18) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18.1-5-g4a78601 02:12:38 -!- enz_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:17:01 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 02:18:06 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:19:27 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 02:23:04 -!- ZiBuDo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:23:12 fr: rename the hat altar of ashenzari 02:24:34 |amethyst: how does cao scoring specify logfile sources? 02:29:21 -!- FireSight has quit [] 02:32:35 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:38:29 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:42:55 -!- sneakyness has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:43:52 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 02:45:08 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 02:48:09 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:49:39 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:50:14 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:50:57 -!- Idolo has quit [] 02:53:15 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:53:43 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-61-g4dc4c6e 02:53:55 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:56:22 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:59:10 ??inac 02:59:10 inac ~ inacc ~ inaccuracy[1/1]: You might be looking for {amulet of inaccuracy} or {bolt of inaccuracy}, refine your search! 02:59:17 ??amulet of inaccuracy 02:59:17 amulet of inaccuracy[1/1]: -5 To hit in melee and range (for the person wearing it). This will affect anything (spells, breath, you name it) that has a chance to miss. The only always-bad normal amulet. Always comes cursed in 0.15. 03:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:01:05 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:02:23 chequers: there's a yaml file iirc, for cao sources 03:02:36 sources.yml? that's sequell 03:02:39 or do they use the same data 03:03:17 what do you mean? yaml is a generic format that can be used by any project... 03:03:31 it's not literally the same file, if that's what you're asking, they're not on the same server 03:03:48 since cao is ra.x's and snark runs sequell on his server 03:04:01 oh, i thought you were either a) saying it used the sources.yml file identical to the one in sequell repo, or b) you were thinking of sequell, not scoreboard 03:04:11 no not saying either of those 03:04:22 it has a sources.yml file, but that's a really generic name I'm sure a lot of things use 03:04:33 not the same format as sequell, of course 03:05:22 but anyhow it's just a simple generic config format, I don't think there's anything special about it 03:05:37 cool 03:05:40 since CAO scoring is basically just a bunch of one-off scripts 03:05:50 i am just thinking about how best to specify the source of logfile/milestone data for our scoreboard 03:06:02 I don't really want to create a third file that stores the same data 03:06:56 yeah, obviously very simple; you could just use toml or you could use any of the other easy to parse config formats that work well in python 03:07:08 maybe the cao scoring yaml code is good enough 03:07:11 ??cao 03:07:11 cao[1/2]: Crawl server, located in Phoenix, AZ. USA, http://crawl.akrasiac.org/ or crawl.akrasiac.org ssh port 22 ssh-username:joshua ssh-password: joshua. Runs the latest stable release, trunk, and robotfindskitten. Further information on the website and ??putty entries for Windows users. Also see http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/howto 03:07:14 ??cao[2 03:07:14 cao[2/2]: Webtiles is at http://crawl.akrasiac.org:8080/. 03:07:16 ??cao[3 03:07:16 I don't have a page labeled cao[3] in my learndb. 03:07:16 man, i don't get why you like toml 03:07:20 it's such an ugly format dont you think 03:07:26 me? I don't really in any specific sense 03:07:37 it's just a simple config format with a parser 03:07:57 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:08:00 as far as ugly, probably yaml is uglier, but none of them tend to be very pretty 03:08:42 I think toml's only benefit is "formated syntaxt in, dict out" (and the reverse) 03:08:52 anything that does that I would be pretty happy with 03:09:39 I bet there's a bunch of yaml code in cao scoring scripts, although I could be wrong 03:09:52 compared to like "load pytoml, one like to convert toml file to dict" 03:10:15 but python also has a system that's similar to windows ini files with a good module for it 03:10:20 I just haven't used it 03:10:30 their generic config parsing stuff 03:10:44 yeah, it is .ini files 03:11:06 i think i'll stick with just cloning sequell's file for now, but it'd be nice if this data was a webservice. perhaps it can come with floodkiller's central auth 03:11:35 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 03:12:12 if it could be a pretty simple implementation, yes 03:12:22 where is that repo.. 03:12:25 ?/scoring 03:12:26 Matching terms (1): scoring; entries (9): cjr[1] | dieselrobin[5] | dieseltodos[1] | high_scores[1] | scoreboard[1] | scoring[1] | streak[3] | top_killers[1] | tournament[5] 03:12:32 ??scoreboard 03:12:32 scoreboard[1/1]: {cf. http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/overview.html } 03:12:35 ?/github.*sco 03:12:35 Matching entries (3): hda[2] | hdarc[1] | scoring[1] 03:12:36 ??scoring 03:12:37 scoring[1/2]: Source for the CAO scoring pages: https://github.com/crawl/scoring 03:12:54 ah 03:13:01 it's the same file, but with {} expanded 03:13:16 i always thought sequell's bash expansion logic was too clever! 03:22:16 %git 03:22:16 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-61-g4dc4c6e: Remove an unused parameter & a useless one 10(6 hours ago, 8 files, 52+ 59-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4dc4c6e18d4b 03:22:21 ^vps 03:22:22 CBRO disk usage=58% | RAM usage=29% | uptime/CPU= 03:22:21 up 542 days, 12:41, 6 users, load average: 1.54, 1.54, 1.18 03:22:33 &versions 03:22:40 CAO: 0.19-a0-58-gbb97db9, CBRO: 0.19-a0-57-g300684c, CDO: 0.19-a0-57-g300684c, CPO: 0.19-a0-58-gbb97db9, CSZO: none, CUE: 0.19-a0-54-g5421d7e, CWZ: 0.18.1-1-g2f07953, CXC: 0.19-a0-61-g4dc4c6e, LLD: 0.19-a0-40-g21a0e93 03:22:56 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:23:04 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:24:19 Stable (0.18) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18.1-5-g4a78601 03:28:57 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:38:11 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-61-g4dc4c6e (34) 03:38:26 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 03:53:55 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:58:45 TZer0: do you know why downloading logfiles/milestones from cue is really slow? 03:59:04 TZer0: http://underhound.eu:81/crawl/meta/0.15/milestones gives me speeds of 30-40kb/sec 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:34 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:02:56 -!- siepu has quit [Client Quit] 04:03:41 -!- kidkraken has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:14:32 johnstein: no news of other text bombs, but if you can ban that guy's account, it's maybe a good idea? 04:15:26 I blocked the IP 04:18:32 nice, thanks 04:18:45 but no, no other text bombs that I noticed 04:19:19 we do need to go add a message limit on the webtiles side, I think; the only issue is we need server upgrades then 04:20:03 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 04:20:13 chequers: hmm.. 04:20:45 chequers: I'm getting approx. 0.7 MB/s 04:20:49 which is still slow... 04:21:08 I could try to take a look at it later 04:21:33 I mean, in theory.. it would be the webserver suffering from people just browsing.. :/ 04:27:01 TZer0: it's being served directly from apache right? not being proxied via the webtiles server or anything I assume 04:27:15 TZer0: if so I guess it might just be a slow network for the server 04:27:24 was it OVH? 04:29:06 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:31:25 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:49:15 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:49:34 -!- swartzcr has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:51:23 -!- TZer0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:55:04 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:14:58 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:20:38 Has anyone created an ansible file for setting up a webtiles server yet? 05:20:46 ansible playbook to be exact 05:21:53 -!- glaas has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:33:36 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:36:24 -!- Pekkekke has quit [] 05:46:10 -!- edsrzf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:56:33 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:00:08 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:32 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 06:13:33 -!- droogie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:29:09 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 06:36:25 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:36:40 Mattias: nope 06:37:10 Mattias: both myself and tzer0 thought about making a reproduible server images, but we were both lazy 06:37:55 -!- grisha5 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:38:00 Great, I might create one which sets up a VPS + DNS record + webtiles + irc bots etc all automatically. 06:38:26 chequers: is a $5 Digital Ocean VPS too small? 512MB ram and 1 core? 06:38:40 to small 06:38:48 Minimum specs? 06:38:48 you need about a gig of spare ram to compile dcss 06:38:51 I see 06:38:55 so I'd go with 2gb 06:38:58 what about temporary swap for that? 06:39:09 that might work, I haven't tried 06:39:09 512MB ram for when it is up and running 06:39:15 each crawl game being played will use about 50mb of ram 06:39:39 Anyways, I'll make it all configurable 06:40:17 have you set up webtiles before? it's pretty gnarly 06:40:22 Yeah, a long time ago 06:40:27 I hope it's easier now? :P 06:40:31 ha ha ha 06:40:34 long time ago = 3+ years ago 06:41:12 https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:server:setting_up_dgamelaunch_and_webtiles 06:41:21 those instructions were recently followed by zibudo to set up cjr 06:41:24 I'll be using centos 7.2 06:41:40 hm, I would recommend a debian derivative, because that's what everyone else uses 06:41:41 But setting up a server isn't hard 06:41:54 I'll try in vagrant first 06:42:23 also, not setting up the SSH portion would make it a lot simpler IMO 06:43:47 I'll also use nginx over apache2 06:43:57 * Mattias is not a fan of apache2 06:44:40 Ok then, time to convert some of those docs into an ansible playbook :) 06:57:32 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:58:01 -!- Ge0ff has quit [] 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:02:55 -!- Naruni has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:14:02 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 07:20:03 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:24:22 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:35:47 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:46:33 -!- zeia has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:58:27 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:05:55 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:06:12 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:06:32 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:14:45 -!- djinni has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:14:45 -!- dustinm` has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:15:32 -!- Chris7 has quit [] 08:17:12 well... if you say so. file:///tmp/gm-temp/GitHub_-_I_Hate_Courier_New.user.js 08:20:28 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:28:42 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:29:30 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:30:10 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:39:37 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:44:41 -!- djinni has joined ##crawl-dev 08:45:27 -!- dustinm` has joined ##crawl-dev 08:49:33 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 08:53:10 that link's not very useful for anyone else 08:55:55 -!- TonyMeatballs has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:58:51 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:59:29 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:02:19 -!- eif has quit [Client Quit] 09:05:46 hm I wonder if mvm item steal functions 09:06:03 i.e. if an enslaved Maurice will loot items by other monsters 09:07:17 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:08:27 <|amethyst> it does not 09:08:32 <|amethyst> case AF_STEAL: 09:08:33 <|amethyst> // Ignore monsters, for now. 09:08:33 <|amethyst> if (!defender->is_player()) 09:08:33 <|amethyst> break; 09:08:55 hm... ok 09:09:00 that's a shame 09:09:11 by design or lack of implementation? 09:14:52 !tell PleasingFungus you rang? 09:14:53 geekosaur: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 09:15:13 <|amethyst> lack of implementation it looks like, but that would be very low-priority 09:16:53 -!- Leszczynek has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 09:17:30 <|amethyst> since it would rarely do anything 09:18:36 <|amethyst> I guess it could be useful against ranged monsters 09:18:47 <|amethyst> or ones that spawned with a wand 09:23:11 captains cutless better disarm the player!!! 09:23:22 |amethyst: any comment on the lv milestone field stuff I mentioned? 09:25:53 <|amethyst> chequers: assuming they're not using "0.2" etc 09:26:42 <|amethyst> or they could use the v and vlong fields 09:27:29 <|amethyst> e.g. instead of 0.19, dcssca-1.5 09:27:32 <|amethyst> or whatever 09:29:18 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:32:45 -!- meatpath has joined ##crawl-dev 09:34:18 -!- hellmonk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:39:31 -!- NotKat has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:40:02 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:48:26 -!- rkd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:00:01 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:01:53 -!- sneakyness has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:02:07 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 10:07:11 -!- Datul has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:11:19 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:12:35 -!- ChongLi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:13:01 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 10:34:58 -!- svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:38:03 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:39:12 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:44:07 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 10:48:23 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:49:00 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 10:49:20 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:50:04 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:52:29 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01:02 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:03:23 -!- molotove has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:04:02 does xom always put you in abyss:5 11:09:45 -!- Dracunos7 is now known as Dracunos 11:15:23 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:16:06 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:16:08 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:16:30 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest78605 11:19:44 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:21:12 -!- Guest78605 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:22:36 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Client Quit] 11:22:54 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:51 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Client Quit] 11:24:23 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:25:22 minmay: n 11:25:22 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:25:56 -!- jefus- has joined ##crawl-dev 11:26:41 -!- CcS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:29:07 -!- jeefus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:31:26 geekosaur: i had a weird crash that was complaining about malloc when i passed a vector as a reference, for reasons i couldn't understand. later it vanished 11:39:30 -!- dalwyn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:41:27 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:43:16 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 11:47:05 our formatted_string colour code is awful, and i despise it 11:48:22 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:52:46 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:57:04 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:50 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:02:12 -!- Dingbatt has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:02:18 -!- sneakynesss has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:54 -!- sneakyness has quit [Ping 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15:49:17 -!- heteroy-away has quit [Client Quit] 15:54:16 tile_water_anim animates rock walls. is this known? :s 15:54:25 among other tiles, probably 15:54:41 naruni: because then it's optimal to cast them out of combat and wait for mp to replenish 15:55:57 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:56:02 -!- Poncheis_ is now known as Poncheis 15:56:17 like imagine shadow creatures with no duration limit 15:56:44 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:57:17 or any other summon that has variability (trying to get a warg from call canine, a sixfirhy from summon demon, etc.) 15:57:57 ok that makes sense... something just seems off with this char 15:58:16 socks_, those (torches and such?) should be tile_misc_anim 15:58:26 the amount of MP and nutrition i have to spend to win a fight feels like a lot higher than using conjurations 15:58:41 although that might default to whatever tile_water_anim is set to 15:58:57 i'm in lair and all of my orange rock walls are changing 16:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01:53 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:08:04 -!- LordSloth_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:13:00 Naruni: the amount of hp you have to spend is probably lower, which is part of the balance 16:13:48 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:14:23 -!- JoeMaro has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:16:28 zzyzx (L12 DEWz) (D (Sprint)) 16:17:32 zzyzx (L12 DEWz) (D (Sprint)) 16:27:24 -!- LordSloth has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:27:52 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 16:30:55 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:31:12 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 16:35:05 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:40:27 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 16:40:32 !crashlog zzyzx 16:40:32 No milestones for zzyzx (crash). 16:40:44 !crashlog zzyzx sprint 16:40:46 2. zzyzx, XL12 DEWz, T:3913 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/zzyzx/crash-zzyzx-20160509-201731.txt 16:41:31 oops 16:42:12 easy fix 16:42:15 embarrassing, tho 16:47:12 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:51:36 at XL 13 and air magic 3.6 (+3 apt) if i focus air when would i get tornado online? 16:52:14 around when you ask ##crawl 16:52:16 probably 16:52:32 :p 16:52:39 oh sorry wrong screen 16:55:14 -!- SERQ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:57:13 -!- SERQ has quit [Changing host] 16:59:51 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:59:53 -!- gressup has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:59:53 -!- TZer0 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:18 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-74-g8fff883: Don't crash when a monster hits a wall 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8fff883b8223 17:02:15 -!- SERQ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:03:27 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:03:53 -!- SERQ has quit [Changing host] 17:04:45 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:06:21 -!- Nattefrost1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:07:08 -!- lax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:08:00 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:10:40 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:11:46 Snord (L27 GrBe) (Zot:2) 17:14:36 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:14:48 -!- Poncheis_ is now known as Poncheis 17:15:08 .gfgk 17:15:09 94. mopl the Covert (L19 MuVM of Gozag), blasted by a moon troll (bolt of acid) in WizLab (wizlab_lehudib) on 2016-05-09 14:39:41, with 264638 points after 60954 turns and 4:27:54. 17:15:25 .gfgk -tv:<3 17:15:26 94. mopl, XL19 MuVM, T:60954 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 17:16:12 -!- jefus- is now known as jefus 17:17:28 Snord (L27 GrBe) (Zot:2) 17:17:31 -!- Yermak has joined ##crawl-dev 17:17:37 !crashlog Snord 17:17:38 2. Snord, XL27 GrBe, T:99759 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Snord/crash-Snord-20160509-211727.txt 17:17:46 hrm 17:17:54 !lm Snord crash 17:17:56 2. [2016-05-09 21:17:27] Snord the Hoplite (L27 GrBe of Makhleb) (Zot:2) 17:17:56 !lm Snord crash x=src 17:17:57 2. [2016-05-09 21:17:27] [src=cao] Snord the Hoplite (L27 GrBe of Makhleb) (Zot:2) 17:18:17 !lm zzyzx crash sprint x=src 17:18:18 2. [2016-05-09 20:17:31] [src=cao] zzyzx the Thaumaturge (L12 DEWz of Sif Muna) (D) 17:18:46 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 17:20:03 Why Vp isn't recommended for VM background? Just because of -1 apt? Vampires are excellent stabbers plus poison resistant below full, which makes them good mephcloud users. 17:21:00 Yermak: the set of recommended bgs for each race (and recommanded races for each bg) were chosen so that each bg/race had about the same number of recommendations 17:21:15 I see 17:21:20 -!- wheals__ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:21:38 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-74-g8fff883 (34) 17:22:01 it is, of course, reasonable to ask why demonspawn *are* recommended for vm 17:22:16 -!- wheals__ has quit [Client Quit] 17:22:24 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:24:07 are vm recommended for ds? 17:24:14 I forget if they're symmetric 17:24:25 it looks like it is 17:24:27 but I can see why vm is recommended for ds 17:24:55 they are not symmetric in general 17:25:04 -!- wheals_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:25:10 e.g. there are recommended backgrounds for mu, but... 17:25:16 same for ck :v 17:25:23 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 17:25:36 I think Ds->VM is a good recommended, for VM->Ds maybe elliptic can remind us of the reasoning (if he remembers) 17:25:53 it was a big group of people making a spreadsheet 17:26:15 Mostly good players (so PleasingFungus was *not* involved LOL!!!) 17:26:23 nooo 17:26:25 also it was before i joined 17:26:29 probably 17:26:34 yeah it was some time ago 17:26:39 I want to say...0.14? 17:26:43 maybe even 0.13 17:26:49 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: actually, two backgrounds recommend Mu... no species recommend CK though 17:27:14 i already noticed that wz recommends mu, yeah 17:27:17 <|amethyst> %git 3acc414d9 17:27:17 07elliptic02 * 0.14-a0-2629-g3acc414: New species/background recommendations. 10(2 years, 3 months ago, 1 file, 246+ 496-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3acc414d9ce8 17:27:19 Yeah obviously given species difficulty, we can't recommend only the strong things 17:27:36 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:27:45 every bg should recommend one of Mi/DE/HO 17:27:59 what is the other background which reccomends Mu? IE? Ne? 17:28:00 s/DE/Sp/ 17:28:04 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:28:15 Ne would make sense, they have innate enhancer 17:28:27 gammafunk: more like, as an additional constraint, every bg should also recommend Sp 17:28:35 which is something I didn't know until relatively recently! 17:28:45 Mu get *two* innate enhancers 17:28:47 amalloy: do you think that DE are strong? 17:28:48 eventually 17:29:07 If so I'm going to have to open my next stream with a long rant 17:29:12 longer than my usual rant, that is 17:29:29 it's been a while since i played one, but i guess i do think that, yes 17:29:37 ??tiers 17:29:37 tiers[1/1]: Races: http://i.imgur.com/NMsN77b.png Gods: http://i.imgur.com/QuSrpL6.png (tiles) / http://pastebin.com/UWHjNUNC (text) 17:29:48 That listing is correct except for the parts that I say aren't 17:30:00 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 17:30:10 <|amethyst> hm 17:30:16 DE are fun though, that I'll grant 17:30:19 thank god, a tier list. i was worried we were going to get involved in some critical thinking 17:30:37 If you're mad because the korean tier list isn't included, I agree 17:30:41 we've been tierrorized? 17:31:12 (it had Yred as some kind of ueber-tier at the top, for some reason) 17:31:23 !lg . de 17:31:24 8. yollama the Magician (L1 DEWn), slain by a jackal on D:1 on 2015-10-25 08:32:11, with 6 points after 103 turns and 0:03:34. 17:31:30 !lg . de won 17:31:31 2. amalloy the Sorcerer (L27 DEWz of Cheibriados), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2015-10-03 22:47:28, with 2088829 points after 114111 turns and 15:11:29. 17:31:46 time for another DEWz 17:31:54 DEWz of chei... 17:31:55 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:31:56 !gameinfo 17:31:57 amalloy the L11 DgWz^ in D:10 (cao console), T:15598, defenses: 7/15/0, stats: 12/30/16 17:32:12 <|amethyst> now I do wonder how many races you need to cover all the recommendations 17:32:20 hm. no, that's dead already. DEWz time, just for gammafunk 17:32:27 !lg . dewz won x=int 17:32:28 1. [int=82] amalloy the Sorcerer (L27 DEWz of Cheibriados), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2015-10-03 22:47:28, with 2088829 points after 114111 turns and 15:11:29. 17:32:32 gammafunk: how can you say no to 82 int 17:32:35 If you go chei I'll find some way to end that game 17:33:05 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:33:07 chei is scoring badly now 17:33:11 -!- PsiRedEye22 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:33:11 and i already have one chei t win 17:33:17 so probly not 17:33:19 how much is my theoretic musu worth? 17:33:24 *theoretical 17:33:51 I see, TeWz is worth a lot more? 17:33:54 That's funny 17:33:59 -!- eb has quit [Client Quit] 17:34:20 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:34:22 sif is still decent, and musu good overall 17:34:25 I should get cracking 17:35:44 -!- Beargit has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:36:03 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:36:09 -!- Poncheis_ is now known as Poncheis 17:36:47 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:37:39 -!- PsiRedEye22 has quit [Client Quit] 17:38:04 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:38:46 -!- Avigdore has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:40:36 wow, still 0 ely wins 17:40:47 how is that even possible 17:42:14 d:2 vehumet altar. gammafunk, prepare yourself 17:42:17 the 3 people who play ely decided not to pick her probably 17:42:45 amalloy: thank god for veh! 17:43:07 one of the few times I've said that; never considered how one of veh's greatest benefits is that veh isn't chei 17:43:34 any chance we can make a veh-exclusive 'hellfire' spell now with damnation gone? 17:44:00 maybe that requires a brand new god proposal... 17:44:14 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 17:44:17 ^vps 17:44:17 CBRO disk usage=58% | RAM usage=40% | uptime/CPU= 17:44:17 up 543 days, 3:03, 6 users, load average: 1.39, 1.57, 1.82 17:44:33 whew still working 17:45:09 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:45:21 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:45:29 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 17:46:24 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 17:48:16 <|amethyst> oh, huh 17:48:29 <|amethyst> looks like the recommendations were never updated for Fo 17:48:38 <|amethyst> in that no background recommends Fo 17:48:57 I wonder if that nice matrix still exists 17:49:02 it was a google doc 17:49:08 ?/recommend 17:49:09 Matching terms (2): recommendation, recommended_combos; entries (9): Bcadren's_Weird_Tips[18] | death_yak[1] | gehenna[1] | Generalist[1] | goodforum[3] | noobrobin[1] | recommendation[1] | slime_pits[2] | ziggurat[3] 17:49:15 ??recommended_combos 17:49:41 ??test 17:49:46 <|amethyst> also, surprisingly few backgrounds recommend humans 17:49:54 1 combo won at most 6 times: DDAE 17:49:54 test[1/40]: blaargh blaargh blaargh blaargh blaargh 17:49:57 hah 17:50:01 ??recommendation 17:50:02 recommendation[1/1]: For each species/background, only a few backgrounds/species (usually 5) are hand-picked as recommendations. It is not a comprehensive list of everything workable, they are just suggestions that would be strong. 17:50:45 elliptic: do you happen to have that google doc with the recommendation matrix you put together back when that was done? 17:51:03 would be a good starting point for maybe looking at that again 17:51:14 it was actually a google spreadsheet 17:51:35 it would be in the dev logs, but I'm not sure what to search for 17:51:55 actually this would work 17:52:27 gammafunk: after the tourney I'd like to pick yours and whoever else's brain on anything we can do to reduce lag. cbro is maxed out on the hardware I can easily throw at it. I'm getting reports of lag still. I think a lot of it is the targeter stuff. evoking polearms and spell targeting etc 17:52:46 dunno if I can tweak some settings or if there's anything hat can be done in the code 17:52:58 seems like there should be something doable 17:53:08 speaking as someone who knows nothing 17:53:10 yeah, I'm probably not the best giant orange brain to pick on that, but if I'm around I can help discuss 17:53:22 did that issue with reach get solved by wheals' fix? 17:53:28 I never actually tested 17:53:51 i haven't noticed any reach problems in quite a while 17:53:56 whereas it used to happen all the time 17:54:15 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:54:18 that's good, maybe wheals did indeed fix it 17:54:38 and I can't seem to find that spreadhsheet, let me try a different search 17:55:09 !learn del amalloy_todo[7 17:55:09 Deleted amalloy todo[7/9]: what happens when you stairdance a convoker while it's reciting recall? 17:55:30 -!- Orphics has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:56:00 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:56:13 -!- Poncheis_ is now known as Poncheis 17:57:49 aha 17:57:50 is there an easy way to profile a webtiles game? 17:57:50 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0As51ya2bLlkGdHV2bjl3RTk2T1A5eTJxeW5iY0loSHc&usp=drive_web#gid=1 17:58:31 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:59:24 that spreadsheet has two matrices, the first is Race->Cls, the second Cls->Race 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:39 <|amethyst> it looks like you can choose four species so that, whatever background you pick, one of those three species will be recommended 18:00:40 I think the Xs in the matrices were made when a combo was deemed bad, and they chose from the set of combos without xs 18:01:16 <|amethyst> I don't think you can do it with 3, but I haven't actually tried using a set cover algorithm or anything like that 18:01:31 but what about the evenness of the number of recommendations over all? 18:01:39 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:01:39 <|amethyst> evenness? 18:01:59 given a race/cls, how many can we recommend 18:02:20 so that the number recommended for any race or any cls is similar 18:02:40 <|amethyst> those look fairly even 18:02:51 the idea being it's nice for players not too see much more/less than 7, say 18:02:51 <|amethyst> since that was an explicit goal 18:02:58 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 18:03:04 -!- LexAckson__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:03:05 <|amethyst> if you start with background it's always 6 or 7 18:03:18 <|amethyst> I'm only looking at that direction at the moment 18:03:36 I'm also not sure if that condition you said is actually solving any problem 18:03:45 you can only impose it for 4 species? 18:04:04 <|amethyst> it's not, I was curious because <+amalloy> every bg should recommend one of Mi/DE/HO 18:04:08 ah 18:04:35 which four species, out of curiosity? 18:04:49 <|amethyst> several different options 18:05:00 <|amethyst> DE + HO + Dr gives you all but one background 18:05:09 oh 18:05:14 that spreadshee has entries for Fo 18:05:30 but they're in parens; Fo wasn't in stable at the time I guess? 18:05:39 ah I see 18:05:44 the problem is no cls recommends fo 18:05:58 <|amethyst> DE + HO + Ha also gives you all but one background 18:06:07 <|amethyst> (different background) 18:06:09 since it wasn't in stable; but the Fo->Cls recommend was in fact done at the time of this sheet 18:06:14 gammafunk: DE FR: remove orc priests 18:06:36 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:06:36 also, who made howler monkeys fast? jeez 18:06:38 It's no problem, DE are so strong they don't need HP! 18:07:16 well i'm alive 18:07:20 so clearly it is true 18:08:39