00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:20 uh 00:00:25 i don't think that's what /notify does 00:00:36 looks like a notify here? 00:00:39 /notify shows you the online/offline status of all the users on your notify list. 00:00:41 travis is sending a notice for sure 00:00:50 oh sorry /notice 00:01:03 language what is it 00:01:09 test 00:01:12 neat 00:01:52 hm, wheals's's's's patch works for me 00:02:17 (in theory bots are supposed to use /notice for such things. in practice many do not, but the travis bot obeys that rule) 00:03:38 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-46-g8690a2b: Fix [scrolls/potions]_used milestones 10(88 seconds ago, 3 files, 13+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8690a2b252d4 00:03:41 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.18] * 0.18.0-1-g0107ab7: Fix [scrolls/potions]_used milestones 10(2 minutes ago, 3 files, 13+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0107ab71f132 00:04:51 ??lld 00:04:52 lld[1/2]: Located in Japan. http://lazy-life.ddo.jp:8080/#lobby - Admin is https://twitter.com/dplusplus/ 00:07:06 sent an email to the lld admin 00:07:19 it's mid-afternoon there, so maybe he'll reply 00:08:34 woo 00:10:56 chequers: would you mind double-checking that fix? 00:11:06 it worked for me, but i'm a little curious about why it didn't for wheals 00:11:21 ok 00:11:40 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:11:41 wow, this is the first time we've had a release that *wasn't* on the day of a tourney in over a year 00:12:42 v=0.18.0:vlong=0.18.0-1-g0107ab7:lv=0.1:tiles=1:name=chequers:race=Minotaur:cls=Berserker:char=MiBe:xl=2:sk=Fighting:sklev=4:title=Skirmisher:place=D::2:br=D:lvl=2:absdepth=2:hp=0:mhp=27:mmhp=27:mp=1:mmp=1:bmmp=1:str=21:int=4:dex=9:ac=2:ev=12:sh=0:god=Trog:start=20160405041157S:dur=26:turn=232:aut=2310:kills=10:gold=0:goldfound=0:goldspent=0:scrollsused=0:potionsused=1:sc=11:ktyp=beam:killer=a dart slug:dam=6:sdam=6:tdam=6:kaux=slug dart:piety=38:end=20160 00:12:47 since 0.15, in fact 00:12:49 if that truncated: yes it works 00:13:06 excellent! 00:13:06 !lg * x=potionsused 00:13:08 5554177. [potionsused=0] chromaticdragonking the Blocker (L10 MiFi of The Shining One), slain by an orc warrior (a +0 trident) on D:8 on 2016-05-05 04:12:43, with 5803 points after 7131 turns and 0:20:24. 00:13:11 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: "first time in over a year" isn't so impressive when it only happens twice a year :) 00:13:12 |amethyst: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 00:13:16 |amethyst: peh! 00:15:12 !lg * x=potionsused 00:15:14 5554182. [potionsused=0] Warped the Twirler (L7 FoFi), slain by a killer bee on D:5 on 2016-05-05 04:14:30, with 429 points after 3739 turns and 0:06:09. 00:15:20 http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/crawl-0-18-pakellass-packrats 00:15:21 !lg . x=potionsused,vlong 00:15:22 1675. [potionsused=1;vlong=0.18.0-1-g0107ab7] chequers the Skirmisher (L2 MiBe of Trog), blasted by a dart slug (slug dart) on D:2 on 2016-05-05 04:12:25, with 11 points after 232 turns and 0:00:26. 00:15:29 pakellass 00:15:33 ty for that death, btw 00:15:55 <|amethyst> !lg * kaux=slug_dart s=killer 00:15:56 1389 games for * (kaux=slug_dart): 1389x a dart slug 00:16:20 ye 00:16:25 greater dart slug: fires a barrage of 27 slug darts in succession 00:16:26 PleasingFungus: are you going to add high level changelog to the post? 00:16:34 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: give Gastronok the spell Dart Strike 00:16:42 chequers: beyond what's in the second line? 00:16:46 yep 00:16:53 0.17 and 0.16 both had posts with more info 00:16:56 http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/category/news 00:17:21 ah, true enough 00:17:43 <|amethyst> ? 00:17:47 well, if we did that before, i suppose i'll have to edit it in. 00:17:58 <|amethyst> the 0.17 post seems pretty similar to the 0.18 one 00:18:00 |amethyst: http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/october-trunk-update-and-the-0-17-release-and-tournament-date 00:18:13 hm 00:18:15 actually 00:18:18 that's just a trunk update 00:18:20 <|amethyst> yeah 00:18:21 he's right about 0.16, though 00:18:23 <|amethyst> 0.16 did have an 00:18:24 <|amethyst> yeah 00:18:54 -!- jefus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:19:02 maybe mention the new god, charms, and that third thing 00:19:19 you are obsessed with charms 00:19:19 ah yes, Stury Frame mutation 00:19:19 i am going to turn you into a charm 00:19:25 I am charming already, PleasingFungus 00:19:41 "the new god, charms". good example of when the oxford comma doesn't help 00:19:47 fr 00:19:54 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 00:19:55 and amulets 00:19:57 and monsters 00:20:01 i'd like to thank my mother, ayn rand. 00:20:07 noooooo 00:20:53 i really appreciate how that's the standard example 00:21:01 mostly because ayn rand is inherently funny 00:24:59 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:26:41 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:29:12 while we're on the subject of all these stats. How hard is it to add additional stats fo the logfile? 00:29:25 I'd like things like base str/int/dex/hp/mp/etc 00:29:35 there's concern about filesize 00:29:38 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-45-g2c295ea (34) 00:29:47 sure 00:30:07 I am thinking about submitted a patch where you can give crawl a program to call with the milestone, rather than appending it to a file 00:30:30 most server admins can have that script append the line to a logfile, but we can also just insert directly into whatever stats tracking we want 00:32:05 huh, faith got nerfed 00:32:07 rip 00:33:18 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:33:52 yes 00:33:54 1/3 > 1/4 iirc 00:34:08 ya 00:36:41 -!- svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:38:53 PleasingFungus, question for you 00:39:05 answer 00:39:07 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:39:11 chequers: http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/crawl-0-18-pakellass-packrats 00:39:37 so many functions in item_use.cc accept only an int, then inside those functions the item is looked up via you.slot[int] 00:39:53 why don't the functions just accept item_def& 00:40:10 Naruni: do you have an example? 00:40:12 it is making it quite hard to do anything to an item that is not in inventory 00:40:16 PleasingFungus: gold star 00:40:20 :) 00:40:22 i'm sure there are some functions where the way it's done is a mistake 00:40:23 i'm so tired. 00:40:23 you put the most important change first 00:40:24 amalloy, yes, look at read() and read_scroll() 00:40:27 but i bet there are some where it's not 00:40:27 !source item_use.cc 00:40:27 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/item_use.cc 00:40:34 oh god, i did, didn't i 00:40:44 whatever. chaos reigns 00:41:13 go to sleep, dear mycelium 00:41:25 !nwon 18 00:41:44 well, read_scroll reduces the quantity of a slot in your inv by one. we don't really keep 10 item_def objects around if you have 10 ?blinking, do we? i'd be surprised, if os 00:42:11 passing an item_def& wouldn't make sense 00:42:17 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 00:42:18 99 combos won at most 18 times: CeAE CeAr CeCj CeEE CeFE CeIE CeNe(jumbajumba) CeSu CeVM DDAE DDAK DDCj DDEn DDIE DDSk DDSu DDWz DEAM DEAr DEGl DEHu DESk DETm DrAM FeAK FeNe(4Hooves2Appendages) FoAE FoCj FoEn FoFE FoIE FoNe FoSu FoTm FoVM FoWr FoWz GhAK GhCj GhEn GhSu GhVM GrAM GrEn GrNe HaAE HaEn HaFE HaNe(WalkerBoh) HaSu HaVM HaWz HEAr HEEn HESu HEVM(Lasty) HOAE HOCj HOEn HOSu HuEn KoAE KoIE MfC... 00:42:33 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:42:33 amalloy, it would make sense if the scroll being read wasn't in inventory 00:43:05 would it? what about a stack of two ?blinking on the floor 00:43:11 does that have two item_defs? 00:43:37 dang. anti-flood detection on reddit, can't submit to both /r/dcss and /r/roguelikes 00:43:47 in that case, i would call dec_mitm_item_quantity(link, 1); 00:44:29 chequers: not in like the same minute 00:44:38 just to check, are cure mutation potions supposed to sometimes not cure any mutations at all? 00:44:41 amalloy: 10! 00:45:14 someone was poking at that the other day 00:45:17 amalloy, i think 00:45:25 not if you have any, Lightli. there was a problem with transient muts, but i fixed it recently 00:45:42 amalloy, besides, in what situation would it be necessary to call dev_inv_item(slot, qty) instead of dec_inv_item(item&, qty) 00:45:51 I darnk a cmut potion that removed everything but a single mutation (beak 1) 00:45:53 so I drank another 00:45:56 which did literally nothing 00:46:12 i'm only asking to really understand - it just doesn't make sense to me 00:46:18 !lm Lightli 00:46:19 26205. [2016-05-05 04:45:09] Lightli the Devastator (L20 HuIE of Vehumet) entered the Vaults on turn 57883. (D:14) 00:46:22 this char? 00:46:42 yup 00:46:43 Your mouth lengthens and hardens into a beak! _The +2 helmet "Cunun" {+Blink rF+ Str+2 Int+3} falls away! This meat tastes really weird. _You feel yourself wasting away. _This meat tastes really weird. It has a very clean taste. _Your slimy green scales disappear. You feel more energetic. You feel healthier. _It has a very clean taste. There are no objects that can be picked up here. 00:46:50 &dump lightli 00:46:51 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Lightli/Lightli.txt 00:46:59 I bought another cmut potion and that one did work 00:47:09 sounds buggy, probably 00:47:17 !locate lightli 00:47:19 lightli was last seen on CBRO (Lightli, L20 HuIE of Vehumet). 00:47:35 can you make a dump so i can see the log? 00:47:39 # 00:47:40 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:47:50 <|amethyst> doesn't look like a bug 00:48:11 <|amethyst> oh 00:48:20 amethyst: the first cure mutation potion removed everything but beak 1 00:48:24 the second one failed to remove beak 1 00:48:29 the third one did remove beak 00:48:30 <|amethyst> I guess the first iteration will at least try to cal delete_mutation 00:49:23 <|amethyst> oh 00:49:31 <|amethyst> 1/1000 chance of not even trying 00:49:49 <|amethyst> !source mutation.cc:1677 00:49:50 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mutation.cc#l1677 00:50:10 <|amethyst> and actually the chance of doing nothing is higher than that 00:51:04 that seems like not the best idea 00:51:11 <|amethyst> if you have just one mutation, that's a 1/152 chance of picking that on each iteration 00:51:24 <|amethyst> and 1/1000 chance of quitting 00:51:46 I mean it's incredibly rare to have happen (this is the first time I ever had it happen), but it still is weird for it to fizzle completely 00:52:37 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:52:52 and now for a round of "is it a bug, or an intentionally bizarre design" 00:53:45 there will be 122 combos in nem_eligible this year 00:53:55 based on !nwon 19 - 0.17 nem combos 00:54:09 any feedback on this approach? 00:54:23 is it generally a bad coding practice to ask for references as arguments to a function? 00:54:37 %git 50e5d330369be6bb954d75a43a9f647d2d8f9fe3 00:54:37 07ontoclasm02 * 0.12-a0-2750-g50e5d33: New panlord tiles (denzi, 4888) 10(3 years, 2 months ago, 13 files, 12+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/50e5d330369b 00:55:14 minmay: i think it's clearly the latter 00:56:01 -!- eb has quit [] 00:56:07 <|amethyst> I'm calculating a 13.2% chance of nothing happening if you quaff cure mut with one mutation 00:56:15 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:56:18 that's really weird 00:56:31 <|amethyst> that seems higher than I'd expect 00:56:53 I have seen it happen pretty often 00:58:20 it's probably rare people quaff curemut with a single mut 00:58:27 -!- johnstein has quit [Excess Flood] 00:58:57 -!- johnstein has joined ##crawl-dev 00:59:20 -!- BanMido_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:59:26 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:59:31 <|amethyst> oh 00:59:46 <|amethyst> that 13.2% chance doesn't take into account the stuff that happens with mutation weight later 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:07 <|amethyst> if (random2(10) >= mdef.weight && !_is_slime_mutation(mutat)) 01:00:07 <|amethyst> continue; 01:02:40 Stable (0.18) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18.0-1-g0107ab7 01:04:58 -!- jefus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:05:30 !lg * vlong~~8690a2b day 01:05:31 1. edsrzf the Sneak (L2 OpAs), slain by a giant cockroach on D:1 on 2016-05-05 04:56:10, with 11 points after 196 turns and 0:01:26. 01:05:50 !lg * vlong~~8690a2b day s=src 01:05:51 One game for * (vlong~~8690a2b day): cpo 01:06:00 i guess that query will tell me if every server updates in time 01:06:19 johnstein: can you please ensure cbro updates to the latest build in the 0.18 branch before tourney? 01:06:42 who looks after cdo? 01:06:47 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:07:12 TZer0: can you please make sure cue is using latest build in the 0.18 branch before tourney? 8690a2b 01:07:26 Medar: can you please make sure cxc is using latest build in the 0.18 branch before tourney? 8690a2b 01:07:40 ZiBuDo: can you please make sure cjr is using latest build in the 0.18 branch before tourney? 8690a2b 01:07:47 chequers, is it not updating? 01:07:58 johnstein: i just wanted to ensure you had auto updates or would do it by hand 01:07:59 &versions 01:08:05 oh. yea. auto should be on 01:08:07 CAO: 0.19-a0-39-g8dff1f5, CBRO: 0.19-a0-38-ga776ef0, CDO: 0.19-a0-36-g4a0968a, CPO: 0.19-a0-46-g8690a2b, CSZO: none, CUE: 0.19-a0-45-g2c295ea, CWZ: 0.18-a0-1781-g663d63a, CXC: 0.19-a0-36-g4a0968a, LLD: 0.18-b1-26-gf763f46 01:08:19 and yea, &versions wouldn't have helped me 01:08:24 &versions 0.18 01:08:29 CAO: none, CBRO: none, CDO: none, CPO: 0.18.0-1-g0107ab7, CSZO: none, CUE: none, CWZ: none, CXC: none, LLD: none 01:08:31 chequers: if i just run update-stable 0.18 it will work right ~ cuz i am doing that every hour 01:08:33 Stable (0.18) branch on crawl.jorgron.rocks updated to: 0.18.0-1-g0107ab7 01:08:46 =version 01:08:46 trunk: 0.19-a0-45-g2c295ea; 0.18: 0.18.0-1-g0107ab7; 0.17: 0.17.2 01:08:49 there you go :) 01:09:05 none? 01:09:18 no games since the update from beta to stable, I guess 01:09:26 ^versions 01:09:33 ah ok 01:09:36 oops, the right version is 0107ab7 01:09:47 TZer0: sorry *0107ab7 01:09:49 Medar: sorry *0107ab7 01:09:50 Pre-release branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18.0-1-g0107ab7 (34) 01:10:04 hah. i should have waited 5mins 01:10:50 ^versions 01:10:59 weird that it's not showing u 01:11:00 p 01:11:00 no s i think 01:11:06 ^version 01:11:06 trunk: 0.19-a0-38-ga776ef0; 0.17: 0.17.1-1-g73c8601; 0.16: 0.16.2-12-gd0ad4c3; 0.15: 0.15.2; 0.14: 0.14.2; 0.13: 0.13.2 01:11:11 ??doh 01:11:11 |amethyst[1/24]: <|amethyst> doh 01:11:20 I always forget to update sizzel 01:11:53 -!- Rotatell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:12:20 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 01:12:24 -!- jefus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:12:25 ^version 01:12:37 trunk: 0.19-a0-38-ga776ef0; 0.18: 0.18-b1-23-gf76aad1; 0.17: 0.17.1-1-g73c8601; 0.16: 0.16.2-12-gd0ad4c3; 0.15: 0.15.2; 0.14: 0.14.2; 0.13: 0.13.2 01:12:38 THERE WE GO> GOOD JOB ROTATELL 01:12:50 &versions 0.18 01:12:55 CAO: none, CBRO: none, CDO: none, CPO: 0.18.0-1-g0107ab7, CSZO: none, CUE: none, CWZ: none, CXC: 0.18.0-1-g0107ab7, LLD: none 01:13:00 :/ 01:13:05 :) 01:13:06 !cmd &versions 01:13:06 Command: &versions => .echo $(join ", " (map (fn (src) (concat $src ": " (=version.query $src $*))) (serverlist))) 01:13:10 need to play a game 01:13:22 !lg * cbro cv~0.18 01:13:23 Broken query near '~0.18' 01:13:29 !lg * cbro cv~~0.18 01:13:30 49527. tbh1313 the Sneak (L5 SpEn), slain by a gnoll (a +0 flail) on D:3 on 2016-05-05 05:12:42, with 212 points after 3240 turns and 0:10:28. 01:13:35 !lg * cbro cv~~0.18 x=cv 01:13:36 49527. [cv=0.18-a] tbh1313 the Sneak (L5 SpEn), slain by a gnoll (a +0 flail) on D:3 on 2016-05-05 05:12:42, with 212 points after 3240 turns and 0:10:28. 01:13:53 does &versions 0.18 only work for the non-beta? 01:14:07 !cmd =version.query 01:14:07 Command: =version.query => !lm * thisweek current $* max=vlong fmt:"$vlong" stub:"none" 01:14:26 !kw thisweek 01:14:26 Keyword: thisweek => end>${day(now()) - ndayofweek(now()) * interval('1d')} 01:14:39 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17.2-0-g21b64f0 (34) 01:14:52 oh. was 17.2 tagged today? 01:14:58 looks like it 01:15:48 johnstein: yes cv=0.18 is only the real releases 01:15:54 0.18.0-b1 is cv=0.18-a 01:16:02 ah ok 01:16:04 neato 01:16:13 it will be here in 2 hours 01:16:33 -!- shnurlf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:16:49 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgron.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-46-g8690a2b (34) 01:17:21 kid cant spell 01:17:22 please roast 01:17:31 jorgron 01:17:48 ??jorgron 01:17:49 jorgron ~ jorgrun[1/8]: A dwarven earth mage, with Shatter, LRD, petrify, and dig. 01:17:51 WORKS FOR ME 01:17:58 -!- tollymain has joined ##crawl-dev 01:18:06 no he needs to take responsibility for this 01:18:20 someone kill me 01:18:29 :^) 01:18:35 Sequill is the only dictionary i need 01:19:00 ??dsomething 01:19:00 dithmenos[1/3]: God of shadows. Grants the player an {umbra} at * piety ala TSO's halo, {shadow step} at ** piety, {bleed smoke} at *** piety, a passive {shadow mimic}king your actions at **** piety, and {shadow form} at ***** piety. 01:19:09 IT EVEN UNSCRAMBLES! 01:19:13 -!- cang has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:19:28 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:20:27 lol 01:20:52 learn add Sequell It slices! It dices! IT EVEN UNSCRAMBLES 01:21:06 Webtiles server restarted. 01:21:25 there can be two functions with the same name that accept different type arguments right? 01:21:26 now you need someone to push a commit so you can prove you fixed the typo 01:21:35 yes, Naruni 01:21:40 Webtiles server restarted. 01:21:45 hmm maybe that's what needs to be done 01:21:53 that one_chance_in(1000) dates to pre-stone-soup, shockingly 01:22:24 Someone push a commit, I fixed my spelling error 01:22:41 -!- Jorgrell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:22:47 !commit Rename Jorgrun -> Jorgron 01:22:48 03amalloy * 0.18-a0-2579-g3e2c774: Rename Jorgrun -> Jorgron 10(in the future, 37 files, 631+ 710-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e2c774 01:23:01 uWu 01:23:06 dying 01:23:09 what are you doing to me!~ 01:25:00 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:25:17 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 01:25:24 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 01:26:00 -!- Rotatell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:26:07 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 01:26:10 ^vps 01:26:24 Current CBRO VPS disk usage is 77% 01:26:26 Current CBRO RAM usage is 48% 01:26:29 Current CBRO uptime stats are: 01:26:09 up 538 days, 10:44, 7 users, load average: 0.56, 0.47, 0.54 01:26:48 kinda obnoxiously 3 lines. I should condense that a bit 01:28:31 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:28:52 -!- Rotatell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:29:03 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 01:29:26 ^vps 01:29:26 CBRO disk usage=77% 01:30:36 -!- Jorgrell has joined ##crawl-dev 01:31:00 =version 01:31:00 trunk: 0.19-a0-46-g8690a2b; 0.18: 0.18.0-1-g0107ab7; 0.17: 0.17.2 01:31:43 ^vp 01:31:45 ^vps 01:31:45 CBRO disk usage=77% 01:32:20 -!- Rotatell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:32:31 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 01:33:35 -!- Jorgrell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:33:50 ^vps 01:33:50 CBRO disk usage=77% 01:34:00 maybe you need tr '\n' ' ' 01:34:19 it was 3 lines before. trying to make it one. hmm 01:34:59 -!- Jorgrell has joined ##crawl-dev 01:34:59 -!- FireSight has quit [] 01:35:02 =jorgrun 01:35:16 rocks 01:35:16 Stable (0.17) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17.2-0-g21b64f0 01:35:19 WOO 01:36:16 http://pastebin.com/3fciiR5T 01:36:16 chequers, ^ 01:36:32 * johnstein is not a perl fan, but this seems so simple. I'm probably forgetting to escape something 01:36:50 each output has a trailing \n 01:36:52 !jorgrun 01:37:06 to each command, add `| tr -d '\n'` 01:37:17 ??jorgrell 01:37:17 jorgrell[1/2]: Announces games and updates for CJR. Uses = as a prefix for commands. Notably susceptible to spelling errors. 01:37:20 oh 01:37:22 eg my $DF =`df / | grep / | awk '{ print \$5}' | tr -d '\n'`; 01:37:27 ty 01:37:37 ??jorgrell [2] 01:37:37 jorgrell[2/2]: =jorgrun 01:37:52 "Notably susceptible to spelling errors" someone burn this heathen thanks 01:38:55 -!- Rotatell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:39:07 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 01:39:08 ??slimify 01:39:08 slimify[1/1]: Jiyva ability that coats your wielded weapon or fists with slime. Hitting a corporeal undead or natural monster will turn it into a neutral slime of similar HD with no resistance checks. Durably summoned/god wrath no longer provides immunity to slimify. 01:39:10 ^vps 01:39:24 CBRO disk usage=77% | RAM usage=44% | uptime/CPU= 01:39:09 up 538 days, 10:57, 6 users, load average: 0.85, 0.58, 0.51 01:39:33 hey lookit that 01:39:36 thanks chequers 01:40:49 ??jorgrun 01:40:49 jorgrun[1/8]: A dwarven earth mage, with Shatter, LRD, petrify, and dig. 01:41:24 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 01:41:29 yw 01:43:07 does jiyva really need a OHKO attack that ignores MR? 01:43:18 yes 01:43:30 -!- BanMido_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:44:03 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:44:27 yes 01:44:53 -!- home has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:45:04 does it scale with invo? 01:45:20 oh there's no invo with J 01:45:38 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:45:39 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:46:32 praised be 01:49:12 need some help with this one: 01:49:34 error: conflicting declaration ‘const item_def& scroll’ here is the line: const item_def& scroll = static_cast(*object); 01:50:05 the variable "scroll" is already defined somewhere else in scope 01:50:18 a variable named "scroll", i should say 01:51:06 ah ok 01:56:36 why do bloodless player vampires get rC++ instead of rC+ 01:56:47 ghouls don't get rC++, mummies don't get rC++, monster vampires don't get rC++ 01:58:33 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:58:52 do they get rc+ at some other blood level 01:59:14 also someone remind me where the in-game blood info screen is 01:59:40 A! 01:59:52 they get rC+ starting at thirsty and rC++ starting at near bloodless 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:06 ty, i was thinking it was based on % for some reason 02:00:42 anyway, ask marvinpa 02:00:47 i think he was the last guy who touched that stuff 02:01:07 !tell MarvinPA why do (near) bloodless player vampires get rC++ instead of rC+. ghouls don't get rC++, mummies don't get rC++, monster vampires don't get rC++ 02:01:08 minmay: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 02:01:19 :) 02:01:28 @??vampire 02:01:28 vampire (05V) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 26-39 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 15, 1505(vampiric) | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(40), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 211 | Sp: vampiric draining (4-22), confuse, invisibility | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 02:01:30 @??vampire knight 02:01:30 vampire knight (10V) | Spd: 10 | HD: 11 | HP: 61-82 | AC/EV: 19/7 | Dam: 33, 1505(vampiric) | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(80), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1347 | Sp: blink close, paralyse, haste, invisibility, vampiric draining (4-30) | Sz: Medium | Int: human.. 02:01:38 <|amethyst> %git 07dc1fd2 02:01:38 07jpeg02 * 0.4-a0-1086-g07dc1fd: Further improvements of vampires: 10(8 years ago, 10 files, 206+ 144-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/07dc1fd248de 02:01:39 bring back vampires with spammals 02:02:07 how do i make a variable available to the whole function when it will only be initialized in an if statement? 02:02:09 huh, vp had a ne boost? 02:02:25 Naruni: why are you trying to use a variable in a whole function when it might not be initialized? 02:02:38 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:03:20 PleasingFungus, i'm returning an object which may or may not be in inventory. later in the function i need to take specific actions if it is inventory, and reference it by item[slot] 02:03:58 so what's the variable? slot? 02:04:04 yeah int 02:04:38 <|amethyst> why not define slot inside the "specific actions if it is inventory" block? 02:04:41 but it only needs to exist if item is in inventory 02:04:42 do something like "int slot = -1; if (something) { slot = the_right_value(); } some other stuff; 02:05:04 |amethyst: i think the implication is that there are multiple such blocks 02:05:05 in the function 02:05:08 i could be assuming 02:06:00 yes correct assumption 02:06:05 is jpeg dpeg? 02:06:12 <|amethyst> chequers: dpeg's sister 02:06:18 hah! 02:06:28 yeah ok so int slot -1; is ok to do? 02:06:31 the programmer in the family 02:06:32 (: 02:06:42 Naruni: yes 02:06:46 er 02:06:48 = -1 02:07:06 chequers: according to legend, she was hired after using beogh as an example of her coding prowess, and left crawl forever. 02:09:16 lol 02:09:34 this may even be true 02:09:36 i can't say 02:09:48 "I made a racist god" Political Campaign Manager: "you're hired" 02:10:35 -!- Jorgrell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:10:53 -!- Jorgrell has joined ##crawl-dev 02:11:00 =jorgron 02:11:10 no one likes you. 02:11:29 amalloy: there's some bug with XE selection 02:11:51 amalloy: specifically, if the exclusion square is horizontally or vertically in-line with you, you can't E to or from it reliably 02:12:16 amalloy: you can test this by placing two or three E points randomly, then one in-line with yourself. Then re-enter X and try to E between them all 02:12:41 the E code is the same as, eg, the < code 02:12:50 actually, maybe I misunderstand the bug 02:13:13 i'm running 0.18 with default rc and can't reliably move between squares 02:13:16 &watch Cheibriados 02:13:17 @watch Cheibriados 02:13:18 &watch chequers 02:13:19 !lldwatch chequers 02:13:28 derp 02:13:29 &watchlink chequers 02:13:30 unknownchequers 02:13:38 http://lazy-life.ddo.jp:8080/ 02:14:15 so there are four exclusions, but mashing E only goes to the first one 02:14:35 now E goes to nothing 02:14:55 Stable (0.18) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18.0-1-g0107ab7 02:15:05 the top four above me work 02:16:11 yeah, i don't get this 02:17:38 i gave up on trying to figure out what you're trying to demonstrate 02:17:50 sorry, I gave up on demonstrating, now i'm just playing 02:18:35 ok, here, let me demonstrate again 02:18:55 !gamesby chequers 02:18:56 chequers has played 1675 games, between 2014-08-19 04:57:21 and 2016-05-05 04:12:25, won 14 (0.8%), high score 22490806, total score 163416738, total turns 10855789, play-time/day 0:48:30, total time 21d+2:02:52. 02:18:58 cycling through E only selects 3/4 points 02:19:11 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 02:19:50 honestly i have no idea. the XE code is no different from X^, X_, X<... 02:20:06 fair enough, just thought I'd report 02:21:34 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:21:50 <|amethyst> I can confirm but I'm having a hard time figuring out the conditions 02:22:28 definitely putting an exclusion in the bottom left of the map will never be selected 02:22:58 or on the far edge of the map, IF the square hasn't been revealed 02:23:04 -far 02:24:58 -!- Zeor1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:26:55 -!- tw12we has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:26:56 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:36:23 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 02:39:52 yes! 02:39:57 it works! 02:40:54 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:41:58 hmm what is the git command to make a patch from a branch im in? 02:42:07 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:42:43 why do you need to make a patch? 02:43:01 Hero comes into view. 02:43:05 But I thought I was the hero 02:43:06 i dunno, I've completed my code, committed it to my local repo, and i need to upload the changes to mantis 02:44:12 !vault dpeg_arrival_morbid_curiosity 02:44:12 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/arrival/large.des#l253 02:44:20 this is one of the most ridiculous spoiler trap vaults in the game and it's an arrival vault 02:44:34 git format-patch --stdout origin/master > floor.patch 02:44:39 or something like that anyway 02:45:33 open the wrong door? you die 02:45:33 -!- Guest43453 is now known as Wensley 02:45:44 ??orcish mines 02:45:44 orcish mines[1/6]: Found in the main dungeon, between D:9 and D:12. Some levels deep. 02:45:51 so exactly how long are the mines these days? :P 02:45:58 2 levels 02:45:59 <|amethyst> two floors 02:46:37 is that 13 goblins in one room? 02:47:02 <|amethyst> no, just 2 02:47:10 what about the one which has lots of monsters behind a runed door 02:47:10 <|amethyst> the others are l 02:49:52 not really sure if that patch went out properly, but it's there for when someone wants to look at it 02:54:03 -!- Dingbat_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:56:24 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:56:26 let's pursue a goal of halving the length of the orcish mines each release 02:56:59 someone, calculate how many releases it will take until the mines consist of exactly one square, which is an upward staircase, containing a pile of 4,000 gold 02:57:57 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 02:58:10 even if we round up, it will take only eight releases 02:58:38 it'll also contain one-quarter of a shop mimic 02:59:20 the orcish mines have been replaced by a guaranteed branch staircase mimic 03:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:03:35 tell me that amulets of harm can spawn as cursed 03:03:58 amulets of harm can spawn as cursed 03:04:30 but is it true 03:05:00 FR: amulet of pacifism. you cannot take damage, but you are under a permanent fear effect 03:06:38 why amulet? make it a race. should be very fun 03:06:48 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 03:10:08 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:11:47 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:18:13 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 03:18:45 -!- Wax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:21:08 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:21:15 Stable (0.18) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18.0-1-g0107ab7 03:31:53 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:33:04 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-46-g8690a2b (34) 03:54:49 Game lets me drop the same item on two separate turns and crashes 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10397 by knonme21 03:54:55 !tell PleasingFungus Linux binaries actually weren't available, only windows, so I'll edit the post 03:54:56 gammafunk: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 03:56:27 !source gain_mutation 03:56:28 Can't find gain_mutation. 03:57:05 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:58:51 -!- ZiBuDo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:59:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:04:34 -!- Mandevil has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:04:38 -!- aiguu_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 04:05:24 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:09:14 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:13:03 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 04:13:40 !versions 0.18 04:13:44 !version 0.18 04:13:45 trunk: not found; 0.17: not found; 0.16: not found; 0.15: not found; 0.14: not found; 0.13: not found; 0.12: not found; 0.11: not found; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 04:14:03 &versions 0.18 04:14:09 CAO: none, CBRO: 0.18.0-1-g0107ab7, CDO: none, CPO: 0.18.0-1-g0107ab7, CSZO: none, CUE: 0.18.0-1-g0107ab7, CWZ: none, CXC: 0.18.0-1-g0107ab7, LLD: none 04:14:40 i can allmost re-enable ascetic 04:22:05 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:22:17 -!- Naruni has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:24:15 wooooo 04:26:00 amalloy, so, a Giant Cockroach species? 04:26:12 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Okay, then._The storm dragon breathes lightning at you." 09:52:24 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:52:27 -!- heteroy_ is now known as heteroy 09:52:30 ??mantis 09:52:30 mantis[1/2]: To report bugs or submit new content like vaults, patches or tiles, go to: http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/main_page.php 09:54:13 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:04:15 Fedhas lets you sort-of abort storm dragon breath with nearby trees 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10398 by rchandra 10:04:43 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:04:55 -!- heteroy_ is now known as heteroy 10:05:28 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 10:10:17 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:10:35 %git :/[Tt]ree 10:10:35 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-b1-23-gf76aad1: Prompt for god-hated tree destruction (gammafunk) 10(32 hours ago, 2 files, 30+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f76aad11abc3 10:10:43 -!- wheals_ has quit [Client Quit] 10:10:59 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:11:17 it doesn't check whether it's a *player* tracer 10:13:01 unfortunately it's in the release 10:13:25 here we go again... 10:13:41 beam.cc:1077 or 1078 should be have && YOU_KILL(thrower) 10:14:09 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:17:38 ??tournament 10:17:39 tournament[1/5]: The 0.18 tournament will run from 20:00 UTC May 6 to 20:00 UTC May 22. Rules: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/ Leaderboard: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/overview.html (not done yet!) 10:21:39 -!- Dalwyn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:25:19 this bug won't make our hearts bleed 10:27:13 -!- LexAckson__ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:27:43 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:28:12 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 10:29:14 -!- onmyo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:29:15 yeah, at least it still attacks 10:29:15 rchandra: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:32:29 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:33:08 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:34:02 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:36:41 -!- LexAckson__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:40:57 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:41:19 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:44:24 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:45:47 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:47:23 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 10:49:10 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 10:56:38 This one is normal, right? Your wandering mushroom releases spores at your wandering mushroom!! Your wandering mushroom is destroyed! You feel extremely guilty. 10:57:19 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01:51 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:02:10 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:04:03 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:05:36 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:05:38 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:13:22 -!- modargo has joined ##crawl-dev 11:14:51 hi -- i have an issue related to CAO that rax suggested i bring up here. i was looking at my game list (http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/modargo.html) and noticed that there were had two games i didn't play. it looks to me like they were both played on non-CAO servers; it looks like someone picked the same name as me 11:15:12 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:15:33 it's somewhat annoying since i was in the middle of a streak. is there a way those games (or all non-CAO games) can be excluded from my game list? 11:16:39 it can't be at the moment, there are some hopeful plans to fix it in the future 11:17:04 !streak modargo cao 11:17:05 modargo (cao) has 5 consecutive wins (TrWz, TeAE, HOPr, CeAs, KoBe; DECr, MfSu, CeGl, TrTm, SpPr) and has won their last 4 games (DsWn, VpEn, CeFE, TrMo). 11:17:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:18:29 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:19:29 -!- LordSloth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:20:13 thanks for the response. consider this a vote for some functionality that patches the problem, like being able to specify what set of servers you play on in your rc file (not saying that needs to be the solution, just throwing an idea out there) 11:20:46 knowing that the !streak command takes a server name s hould let me track things for my own gratification in the meantime :) 11:20:51 -!- Twinge has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:21:02 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:42 -!- jbenedetto has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:23:43 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:24:01 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:24:25 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:27:34 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:27:46 oh god 11:27:46 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:27:52 i should never have made a commit 11:27:58 you can use it with any of the options that !lg takes, as well 11:28:22 modargo: what you ought to do is register your name on all the servers you can 11:28:43 modargo: and there are definitely hopeful plans, so play as though the streak is intact :) 11:29:25 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:35:52 yeah, that makes sense. unfortunately it looks like whoever did this already got to most of the non-CAO servers (at least, CXO, the .eu one, and the .jp one), and i was already on CAO/CDO. guess i'll go through the others one-by-one and check 11:35:53 !tell minmay the really good part about morbid_curiosity is that it's no_rotate 11:35:53 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let minmay know. 11:36:05 the streak is certainly intact in my heart :) 11:37:11 i'll keep an eye out for when there's some solution for this -- i assume it will be mentioned in future patch notes or something like that 11:37:53 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-47-g1fa3c7d: Don't prompt when enemies would burn trees (10398) 10(31 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1fa3c7daf26a 11:38:10 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.18] * 0.18.0-2-g198d6d4: Don't prompt when enemies would burn trees (10398) 10(48 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/198d6d447f3a 11:38:43 !tell gammafunk er, i guess the linux builds probably need to be reuploaded... c.f. bug 10398 :( 11:38:44 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 11:39:33 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:40:13 all i wanted was to fix bug 11:40:16 is that so bad 11:41:15 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:42:59 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:42:59 -!- heteroy_ is now known as heteroy 11:45:20 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:47:46 -!- Crawl_Bacchus is now known as Icadius 11:48:32 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:48:39 -!- Icadius has quit [Client Quit] 11:48:40 -!- heteroy_ is now known as heteroy 11:51:03 modargo: ah I see that it was a TrWr and FeWr... I know that MO 11:51:36 i take it someone was griefing people by doing that deliberately 11:51:47 <|amethyst> yes 11:51:48 yep, and it indirectly led to the shut down of CSZO 11:51:56 never thought i'd see the day that griefing came to crawl 11:52:05 <|amethyst> Dreemurr JakeTrogg@yahoo.com 11:52:05 yep 11:52:15 wait, is this the same guy? 11:52:34 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/modargo.html 11:52:40 <|amethyst> Yes, modargo was one of the accounts Dreemurr griefed to get back at me for banning him 11:52:46 you can see the grief is a TrWr and FeWr, and from april 11 11:52:54 both match what that guy was doing to other accounts at the time 11:52:55 ah, ok 11:53:10 that's bad enough, but i'd worried he'd struck again 11:53:14 which would have really surprised me 11:53:16 for a second I thought that too 11:53:35 <|amethyst> also glaas, gurmil, and elmdor 11:53:51 i've just been inactive for a while so didn't notice until now :). looked at crawl again when i saw 0.18 was coming out 11:53:52 <|amethyst> (the other accounts griefed to "motivate" me) 11:54:25 modargo: just know that the griefed games will be removed eventually, so your streak is still active right now 11:54:59 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:55:01 cool 11:56:01 |amethyst: what I find puzzling is that this griefer actually played the characters a fair bit and died on them, rather than just quitting on turn 1 like they usually do 11:56:16 one of the games was played for close to 10mins 11:56:49 and also, the griefer played two games on each of the games, a TrWr followed by a FeWr, on separate servers 11:56:53 <|amethyst> yeah, I imagine that's to make it look less suspicious 11:56:55 on each of the accounts * 11:57:17 <|amethyst> ... which doesn't make sense if you're going to email one of the admins to brag about it 11:57:29 <|amethyst> s/email/message on tavern/ 11:57:42 yes it's all very bizarre 11:58:04 I've been wondering about how to detect griefing incidents that are meant to look like legitimate deaths 11:58:11 <|amethyst> zxc: IP address 11:58:22 well, from purely the logfile data 11:58:30 <|amethyst> I doubt you can 11:59:14 <|amethyst> since any criterion you come up with would either be easy to fake, or catch innocent players 11:59:25 <|amethyst> we could put IP address in the logfiles 11:59:48 <|amethyst> (would need some work to get that information to Crawl, of course) 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:15 how would the IPs help? 12:00:16 <|amethyst> of course, then we're probably more seriously in violation of EU law than we already are 12:00:47 it's very simple to detect griefing from past data 12:00:50 <|amethyst> IPs were how we determined this was in fact a griefing incident, and what user was responsible 12:01:43 <|amethyst> zxc: you mean like "if you lose on D:1 after an N-game streak, you must be a griefer"? 12:01:48 <|amethyst> that sounds very error-prone 12:02:00 but future griefing can be very difficult if they really try hard, but in that case you can manually blacklist name-src combinations 12:02:26 |amethyst: not quite - the thing is, almost all these incidents occur on the first time an account is playing on a new server 12:02:51 something about trying to handle low-hanging fruit, threat profiles, possibly delayed bans to make it less obvious how we're identifying people 12:03:34 yes, and in combination with some degree of review and manual blacklisting, I think you almost entirely get rid of the problem 12:04:08 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:04:10 hm 12:04:13 <|amethyst> or just don't track streaks 12:04:17 it would be nice if floodkiller was alive 12:04:19 <|amethyst> that gets rid of the problem nearly 100% 12:04:30 chequers suggested that streaks be restricted to the server it began on, which would work, although it would stuff up older streaks 12:04:31 <|amethyst> no one griefs to reduce someone's winrate 12:04:53 grief minmay by registering his name on a new server and then playing a non-mummy 12:05:01 but then again, we can detect older griefs easily 12:05:34 !seen floodkiller 12:05:34 I last saw Floodkiller at Tue Apr 26 01:57:00 2016 UTC (1w 2d 14h 8m 34s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: Page closed'. 12:06:21 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:08:34 Stable (0.18) branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.18.0-2-g198d6d4 12:12:33 if (you.res_water_drowning()) { .. } else if (!you.res_water_drowning()) { ... } 12:13:44 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 12:13:48 -!- dawlyn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:16:22 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 12:16:51 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-47-g1fa3c7d (34) 12:18:38 -!- xen_ has quit [Client Quit] 12:19:47 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:20 is fedhas supposed to let you drown yor oklobs with Rain? 12:20:42 Your oklob plant falls into the water! Your oklob plant falls apart. You feel extremely guilty. 12:20:54 i don't see why not 12:21:08 heh, 'falls apart'. they should probably drown 12:21:16 i guess it's weird either way 12:21:59 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:22:41 <|amethyst> if you make them able to drown, you also make them susceptible to curare damage 12:23:20 <|amethyst> well, I guess can_drown could be separated from is_unbreathing 12:23:58 was just thinking about messaging, that's all 12:23:59 I guess having some idea of what will happen when you use Rain would be nice. it's a very confusing ability 12:24:02 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:24:13 ??rain 12:24:13 fedhas[3/7]: rain - creates a circle of water around you, the floor becomes shallow water, shallow water becomes deep water, randomly spawns plants and fungus 12:24:24 <|amethyst> maybe rain shouldn't kill things 12:24:38 <|amethyst> no placing deep water if there was a monster there 12:24:44 |versions 12:24:50 |version 12:24:50 trunk: 0.19-a0-45-g2c295ea; 0.18: 0.18.0-1-g0107ab7; 0.17: 0.17.2; 0.16: 0.16.2-12-gd0ad4c3; 0.15: 0.15.2; 0.14: 0.14.2 12:25:22 brutal nerf 12:28:40 i feel truly mortified about the fedhas/tree thing 12:28:47 Stable (0.18) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18.0-2-g198d6d4 12:28:50 i had a bad feeling when i pushed it... 12:30:02 I don't think you should 12:32:38 some guy wants a cao password reset 12:33:31 who all has cao access and knows how to do that and has time? 12:33:36 !venn 12:33:45 someone with cao access should put 0.18 on there... 12:33:47 just sayin... 12:33:54 wink, nudge 12:33:55 -!- kaiza has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:34:21 agreed. haven't heard back from r a x for a few days after I sent her my public key info 12:34:37 !time 12:34:37 Time: May 05, 2016, 04:34:38 PM, UTC. The 2016 0.18 tournament starts in 1 day, 3 hours, 25 minutes and 21 seconds. 12:34:46 :S 12:41:25 the Spirit of Crawl will come through in the end 12:46:29 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:51 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 12:53:20 -!- jefus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:57:45 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:59:23 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 13:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:00:19 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:01:13 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:05:57 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:06:20 -!- shinino has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:08:49 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:09:11 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 13:14:59 -!- jerkstoresup has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:16:24 Are you sure you want to destroy the ? 13:16:30 when attacking an entropy weaver 13:17:01 hmm I seem to be stuck in a loop. saying N and it keeps asking 13:17:15 sometimes "Are you sure you want to destroy the tree?" instead 13:18:32 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:19:28 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:10 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:24:14 oh this is probably the same one as before, with it casting wave of entropy on every tree in sight 13:24:45 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:24:52 -!- betheynyx has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:25:56 Stable (0.17) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17.2-0-g21b64f0 13:25:59 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:26:44 rchandra: what's a wave of entropy 13:28:32 I can't keep up with all these new spell names! 13:28:34 +e probably 13:28:54 entropy weaver (07p) | Spd: 10 | HD: 13 | HP: 58-84 | AC/EV: 7/13 | Dam: 17, 17, 17, 17 | fighter, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 1006 | Sp: entropic weave | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 13:28:54 %?? entropy weaver 13:29:00 duck, dodge, weave 13:29:12 but also i don't understand how that would harm a tree 13:29:13 Is there a way to see a non-test version of dobrazupa(sp?)? 13:29:29 I want to know if the clan stuff in my rc is working 13:33:11 the other enemies with odd attacks were tarentella and DTEM 13:33:34 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-47-g1fa3c7d (34) 13:39:31 fwiw I'm doing 0.18.0 builds in the background" --- but may have to suspend that as $employer related VMs have priority 13:40:33 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:40:34 geekosaur: ty! 13:40:38 this is the latest version from git, right? 13:40:47 people keep finding bugs that i added :( 13:41:43 no, it's the tag not the later updates. (see "here we go again"earlier >.> I released an 0.17 with some fixes that originally were going to be rolled in but then weren't) 13:42:24 I'm consideringt hese builds provisional (eg not signing them yet), will wait and see what is decided about other platforms 13:42:29 hm 13:42:45 also I saw the 0.17.2 tag went in 13:42:47 <|amethyst> %git stone_soup-0.18 13:42:47 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18.0-2-g198d6d4: Don't prompt when enemies would burn trees (10398) 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/198d6d447f3a 13:43:03 <|amethyst> tag that as 0.18.1 and no more commits until after the tournament 13:43:05 there's always 0.18.0.1 tagging :) 13:44:23 what if someone finds another critical next bug in the next few hours 13:44:25 will i have to cry 13:44:51 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:45:13 -!- WorkSight has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:45:25 !tell chequers lld has updated 13:45:25 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let chequers know. 13:45:36 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:46:04 <|amethyst> eh, what if someone finds a bug in Super Mario Bros that lets you go to World -1? 13:46:13 <|amethyst> might have to recall all the Nintendos ever 13:47:10 nintendo had the excuse of coding on something roughly as powerful as a toaster 13:47:14 probably somewhat less so 13:48:12 %git stone_soup-0.18 13:48:12 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18.1: Don't prompt when enemies would burn trees (10398) 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/198d6d447f3a 13:49:19 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:49:23 -!- mineral has joined ##crawl-dev 13:52:33 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:55:37 haha. "really allow this goblin to zap a wand of lightning at you? this attack might incur penance!" 13:56:03 do NOT make fun of me at this time 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:02:10 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 14:02:14 hello 14:02:44 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:02:45 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 14:05:43 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:08:04 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 14:11:11 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:13:07 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 14:13:57 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:16:55 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:18:04 -!- test is now known as Guest43266 14:31:07 -!- Guest43266 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:32:33 -!- kaiza has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 14:33:36 -!- kaiza has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 14:34:33 %git stone_soup-0.17 14:34:33 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.17.2: Fix a hiscores crash (10340) 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/21b64f0e3517 14:34:33 gammafunk: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 14:34:45 %git 0.17.2 14:34:45 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.17.2: Fix a hiscores crash (10340) 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/21b64f0e3517 14:34:49 ok good 14:35:00 was gonna flip my lid 14:35:03 ? 14:35:12 if 0.17.2 was tagged and there was another fix 14:35:16 since I built the packages and such 14:35:26 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:35:29 well I've almost built them all, there's still the debs 14:35:30 -!- kaiza has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 14:36:17 geekosaur: yeah 0.17.2 is ready if you want to build os x packages 14:36:28 -!- kaiza has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 14:37:15 -!- kaiza has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 14:37:36 !bug 10398 14:37:36 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10398 14:37:55 -!- kaiza has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 14:38:00 gosh dorbit!!! 14:38:40 -!- kaiza has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 14:39:00 so I guess we need new builds and just release 0.18.1 14:39:10 sry :( 14:39:30 I'm going to find some beetles in my yard, and push them around 14:39:41 not a lot, just enough to make them annoyed 14:40:43 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:40:53 hope they're not boulder beetles >.> 14:42:03 hrm, I see git clean is removing FAQ.html and crawl_manual.txt 14:42:14 -!- joy1999 has quit [Quit: Http://www.ZeroIRC.NET Zero IRC Ver 2.9G] 14:42:14 -!- Ge0ff has quit [] 14:42:19 does that get remade when I do builds? 14:42:49 guess I'll find out 14:43:02 -!- blatancyhs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:43:48 <|amethyst> they do, unless you're doing 'make crawl' or some such to build only the binary 14:43:57 ok 14:44:04 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:45:32 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:45:38 !source item_def 14:45:39 1/2. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/externs.h#l588 14:47:02 -!- CKyle has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:53:54 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 14:58:22 !lm hong 14:58:22 PleasingFungus, you commented on the purple dragon magic resist thing (mantis 10231) but I'm confused about your comment 14:58:23 11805. [2016-05-03 11:04:22] hong the Grappler (L12 DsCK of Xom) reached level 2 of the Orcish Mines on turn 9786. (Orc:2) 14:58:38 -!- CKyle has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:58:53 in the mutation enum there is no definition for a fakemut 14:59:26 !source mutation.cc:76 14:59:26 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mutation.cc#l76 14:59:30 yes, of course. 14:59:46 if they were in the mutation enum, they wouldn't be fake! 14:59:49 they're in race-data.h. 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:34 i don't have a race-data.h in my source dir? 15:00:55 species-data 15:01:00 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 15:01:01 The build passed. (0.18.1 - 198d6d4 #5411 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/128106054 15:01:01 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 15:01:38 Are there any dev team clans this t? 15:01:51 I made one the last two, but I'm not sure who's playing/already in a clan 15:02:03 and I don't have a superlative name ready 15:02:15 yes, those - i might be reading it wrong, but aren't those species mutations legit mutations? 15:02:29 !readall reserved clan names 15:02:29 Akrasiac Record / Quiescent Sporulation [who do you think?] / Wizards Without Wizlabs [gammafunk] / Actual Cannibal Shia LaBeogh [|amethyst] / Anti Player Species Monster Vendetta [gammafunk] / Beautiful Crash Blossom [wheals] / HashtagStupidRemove2016 [Lasty] / Odious Ogres [gammafunk] / Meta-Spitballing [gammafunk] / Future Trapdoor Spider [gammafunk] / Chaos Triplesword Zerked The Emperor Scorp... 15:02:33 -!- ZiBuDo has joined ##crawl-dev 15:02:36 SP_NAGA { "You cannot wear boots." } 15:02:40 there are some *decent* ones 15:02:42 don't think that's a real mut, Naruni 15:02:56 I'm partial to Wizards Without Wizlabs 15:03:12 gammafunk: as i mentioned in your stream i'd play on a dev team 15:03:18 oh cool 15:03:27 sorry didn't see you mention it 15:03:36 maybe I should go ahead and set one up then 15:03:55 i don't really get too much into the tournaments, but being on a team is more fun than not 15:04:01 !won . tall 15:04:02 amalloy (tall) has won 6 times in 68 games (8.82%): 1xDrIE 1xDsTm 1xGrBe 1xHaAr 1xVSIE 1xVpAE 15:04:13 yeah, if you can get just a single win, it'd be appreciated 15:04:33 !won . tall 15:04:34 gammafunk (tall) has won 5 times in 744 games (0.67%): 1xDgWn 1xHaCj 1xOpDK 1xSpEn 1xVSFi 15:04:39 I'm not very prolific myself 15:04:56 I may try a mibe realtime run at the start of t if the timing works out for me 15:04:58 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:05:08 and stream it, of course 15:05:15 competing with whatshihname 15:05:22 i watched his mibe realtime run at the start of last time 15:05:24 lessens? 15:05:26 yeah 15:05:39 i'll probly go mostly for the nemchoices myself 15:05:39 and a few others, yeah. Note hoping to actually get the first win, of course 15:05:52 !time 15:05:53 Time: May 05, 2016, 07:05:53 PM, UTC. The 2016 0.18 tournament starts in 1 day, 54 minutes and 6 seconds. 15:06:00 amalloy, I believe that is just a string that gets added to the abil menu - the actual mutation would be MUT_CONSTRICTING_TAIL 15:06:05 Well chequers is running it, so for all we know MiBe will be the first nem choice 15:06:22 or MUT_DEFORMED 15:06:33 Naruni: a fakemut is exactly a string that gets added to the ability menu 15:06:54 i haven't been tracking why you guys are talking about fakemuts, but the thing PF just mentioned is what fakemuts are 15:08:20 like he said, if there were a real mutation enum value for it, such as MUT_DEFORMED, it would be a real mut, not a fake mut 15:08:20 amalloy, ok, i think the request was to make purple draconian magic resistance a separate mut from MUT_MAGIC_RESIST 15:08:34 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 15:08:42 !bug 10231 15:08:43 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10231 15:09:41 -!- CKyle has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:10:05 i see. the issue here is that other draconian resistances are real mutations, like MUT_RESIST_COLD or whatever 15:10:17 yes 15:10:48 whereas purple draconians don't get a mutation, but instead whenever the game calculates MR it checks your racial MR multiplier, and purple dracs have a higher one. so you get a higher MR score, but there's no mut to expose to show the player why 15:11:14 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:11:21 you could fix this in several ways: one, by creating a new mutation that's like "higher racial MR multiplier", and giving that to purple dracs at XL7 15:11:34 two, by adding a way to give dracs fakemuts as well as real muts when they hit XL7 15:11:46 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:12:10 three, by replacing their higher-racial-MR feature with a level of the already-existing MUT_MAGIC_RESISTANT or whatever. so instead of a multiplier they'd get a flat bonus (20 or whatever it is) 15:12:38 i went with 2 15:12:48 it already exists 15:13:12 i just changed the fakemut to a realmut 15:13:14 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:32 but assigned it a new flag so that way it can't be gained by other means 15:14:18 you said you went with (2), but then when you described it further you seem to have done exactly (1) 15:14:21 do you have a patch? 15:14:34 yes it's on that mantis draconian_MR.patch 15:14:35 going with (2) would be like a single one-line change to species-data.h 15:14:48 ah i misread 15:14:51 1 then 15:15:05 the patch increases their mr too 15:15:30 i see 15:15:36 wheals, yes, admittedly i did not look closely into the whole pip thing 15:15:43 i was hoping someone else could help me figure that out 15:15:44 <|amethyst> what's the point of mutflag::SPECIES ? 15:16:30 <|amethyst> re multiplying vs adding, do you know where in the code the current purple draconian MR is? 15:16:37 <|amethyst> s/is?/is handled?/ 15:16:40 -!- CKyle has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:17:05 |amethyst, two reasons: 1 to prevent the mutation from being gained via benemut or malmut and 2: to create a flag for future use of muts that may have the same requirements 15:17:10 actually this patch reads like a mix of (1) and (3). you created a purple-dr-specific mut, but it's additive instead of multiplicative, and you gave it to them on top of their current multiplicative bonus 15:17:29 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 15:17:39 <|amethyst> how does the flag prevent it from being gained via benemut or malmut? 15:17:42 and no i do not know where MR is actually handled, i looked at player.cc and think it was handled there 15:18:22 <|amethyst> and what about all the existing species-native mutations? 15:19:16 |amethyst, there is a flag JIYVA described as jiyva-only muts 15:20:32 existing species-native mutations can be transferred over to the new mutflag if necessary 15:21:52 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:22:01 amalloy_, can you tell me where i should make an adjustment to give the proper MR? 15:22:40 <|amethyst> don't make any adjustment 15:22:45 <|amethyst> just have a mutation that does nothing 15:23:06 ah i see 15:23:31 <|amethyst> looks like purple dracs get higher MR because they have a higher species multiplier for MR 15:24:28 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:36 right 15:24:46 -!- sysv has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:26:41 <|amethyst> so if you wanted it to be a real mutation that actually does something, reduce the multiplier back to 3 like other draconians, and have player_res_magic() do int rm = you.experience_level * (species_mr_modifier(you.species) + 3 * player_mutation_level(MUT_PURP_DR_MAGIC_RESIST)); 15:26:52 <|amethyst> but I think that makes things more complicated than they currently are 15:26:52 -!- sysv_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:27:32 <|amethyst> I think it makes more sense to add a way for fakemuts to have a level associated with them 15:28:04 <|amethyst> or add a special case to describe_mutations 15:29:06 why do they need to have an associated level? 15:29:15 <|amethyst> oh 15:29:18 it's not like you can gain an unknown amount of it 15:29:20 <|amethyst> right, because you're not purple yet 15:29:33 -!- CKyle has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:29:50 <|amethyst> yeah, you can just add a string 15:31:28 !source species-data.h:263 15:31:29 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/species-data.h#l263 15:31:35 so that should just be changed to: 15:32:00 { "You can breathe bolts of dispelling energy.", "You are resistant to magic." }, 15:32:36 <|amethyst> with different wording, sure 15:33:03 -!- ZiBuDo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:33:13 I thinkg thats what pleasingfungus was saying, because if the purp draconian then gains MUT_RESIST_MAGIC they would conflict in description 15:33:29 -!- ZiBuDo has joined ##crawl-dev 15:33:33 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:33:46 <|amethyst> that, and also it should say something about "hostile enchantments" 15:34:19 <|amethyst> lest you make people think you are protected from damage spells 15:35:27 "You are naturally resistant to hostile enchantments." 15:35:32 hows that sound 15:35:43 or should it have something about draconian resistance 15:37:54 <|amethyst> hm, maybe "Your scales protect you from hostile enchantments."? 15:38:00 <|amethyst> though I wonder 15:38:08 -!- noobcanoe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:38:09 is the word 'scales' misleading? 15:38:18 PleasingFungus: ok, 0.18.1 source and windows packages up and on the download page, maybe we could make an update note on your announce mentioning people should download the 0.18.1 bugfix release? 15:38:18 <|amethyst> hm 15:38:28 <|amethyst> I guess scales go away in forms, so yeah 15:38:33 The download page does now refer to 0.18.1 so there shouldn't be any real confusion 15:39:03 <|amethyst> I wonder if we should have something similar for DD, Felid, and Spriggans 15:40:05 |amethyst, good point - I just need the proper wording: "Your species is more resistant to hostile enchantments."? 15:40:11 catchall 15:40:55 i think "You are naturally more resistant to hostile enchantments." sounds better 15:43:04 should everything that is not the normal 3 resist get it? demigods are 4 15:44:01 !apt mr 15:44:01 MR: Sp: 7!, DD: 6, Fe: 6, Mu: 5, Na: 5, VS: 5, Dg: 4, DE: 4, Fo: 4, HE: 4, Og: 4, Vp: 4, Ce: 3*, Dr: 3*, Ds: 3*, Gh: 3*, Gr: 3*, Ha: 3*, HO: 3*, Hu: 3*, Ko: 3*, Mi: 3*, Mf: 3*, Og: 3*, Op: 3*, Te: 3*, Tr: 3* 15:44:03 is this on the apt screen somewhere? 15:44:18 don't think so 15:44:27 we don't mention MR in terms of numbers anywhere 15:44:36 interesting 15:44:36 !source species-data.h 15:44:36 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/species-data.h 15:44:52 !cmd !apt mr 15:44:53 Unknown command: mr 15:45:01 ??userdef 15:45:01 userdef[1/1]: https://loom.shalott.org/userdef.html 15:45:14 !cmd =racialmr 15:45:14 Command: =racialmr => .echo MR: Sp: 7!, DD: 6, Fe: 6, Mu: 5, Na: 5, VS: 5, Dg: 4, DE: 4, Fo: 4, HE: 4, Og: 4, Vp: 4, Ce: 3*, Dr: 3*, Ds: 3*, Gh: 3*, Gr: 3*, Ha: 3*, HO: 3*, Hu: 3*, Ko: 3*, Mi: 3*, Mf: 3*, Og: 3*, Op: 3*, Te: 3*, Tr: 3* 15:45:41 !cmd =racialmr .echo MR: Sp: 7!, DD: 6, Dr[Purple]: 6, Fe: 6, Mu: 5, Na: 5, VS: 5, Dg: 4, DE: 4, Fo: 4, HE: 4, Og: 4, Vp: 4, Ce: 3*, Dr: 3*, Ds: 3*, Gh: 3*, Gr: 3*, Ha: 3*, HO: 3*, Hu: 3*, Ko: 3*, Mi: 3*, Mf: 3*, Og: 3*, Op: 3*, Te: 3*, Tr: 3* 15:45:41 Redefined command: =racialmr => .echo MR: Sp: 7!, DD: 6, Dr[Purple]: 6, Fe: 6, Mu: 5, Na: 5, VS: 5, Dg: 4, DE: 4, Fo: 4, HE: 4, Og: 4, Vp: 4, Ce: 3*, Dr: 3*, Ds: 3*, Gh: 3*, Gr: 3*, Ha: 3*, HO: 3*, Hu: 3*, Ko: 3*, Mi: 3*, Mf: 3*, Og: 3*, Op: 3*, Te: 3*, Tr: 3* 15:45:45 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:45:46 !apt fire 15:45:46 Fire: Dr[red]: 2!, HO: 1, DE: 1, Te: 1, Dr[mottled]: 1, Dr[pale]: 1, HE: 0, Fo: 0, Dr: 0, Gr: 0, VS: 0, Op: 0, Hu: 0, Na: 0, Ha: 0, Ko: 0, Dg: -1, Ce: -1, Fe: -1, Ds: -1, DD: -1, Gh: -2, Vp: -2, Dr[white]: -2, Mu: -2, Sp: -2, Og: -3*, Mi: -3*, Tr: -3*, Mf: -3* 15:45:55 !cmd =racialmr .echo MR: Sp: 7!, DD: 6, Dr[purple]: 6, Fe: 6, Mu: 5, Na: 5, VS: 5, Dg: 4, DE: 4, Fo: 4, HE: 4, Og: 4, Vp: 4, Ce: 3*, Dr: 3*, Ds: 3*, Gh: 3*, Gr: 3*, Ha: 3*, HO: 3*, Hu: 3*, Ko: 3*, Mi: 3*, Mf: 3*, Og: 3*, Op: 3*, Te: 3*, Tr: 3* 15:45:55 Redefined command: =racialmr => .echo MR: Sp: 7!, DD: 6, Dr[purple]: 6, Fe: 6, Mu: 5, Na: 5, VS: 5, Dg: 4, DE: 4, Fo: 4, HE: 4, Og: 4, Vp: 4, Ce: 3*, Dr: 3*, Ds: 3*, Gh: 3*, Gr: 3*, Ha: 3*, HO: 3*, Hu: 3*, Ko: 3*, Mi: 3*, Mf: 3*, Og: 3*, Op: 3*, Te: 3*, Tr: 3* 15:46:34 so i added that line to everything that was >3 15:47:30 that sounds misleading especially for 4, since they don't gain MR all that much faster 15:48:53 verbage doesnt work well with the naturally thing: "You are naturally a little more resistant to hostile enchantments." 15:53:34 -!- CKyle has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:54:31 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:58:17 -!- CKyle has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:58:59 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:59:01 gammafunk: updated the post 15:59:07 thanks 15:59:51 What a hot fix, would download again 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:39 !lg * cwz 0.18 max=vlong 16:00:39 No games for * (cwz 0.18). 16:00:52 !kw cwz 16:00:53 Built-in: cwz => src=cwz 16:02:47 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:06:43 no hong has been sited 16:06:47 not even by hongbot 16:07:12 -!- tripout has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:07:20 *sighted 16:07:44 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:09:23 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 16:12:33 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:16:58 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:18:18 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 16:19:48 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:26:12 -!- KiT_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:26:37 -!- spriseris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:27:13 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:37:55 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.18] * 0.18.1-1-g2f07953: Update and correct the debian changelog 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 14+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2f079536fbf8 16:38:34 03gammafunk02 07* 0.19-a0-48-g9fa930a: Update and correct the debian changelog 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 14+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9fa930a05f40 16:41:25 anyone know which download page this is referring to https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?p=268384#p268384 16:41:46 probably the main one, since it has several links to 0.17 16:41:50 e.g. for os x 16:42:11 yeah, download page refers to 0.18.1 but some still link to 0.17.1 and are marked as such 16:42:38 some being os x and linux at present 16:44:08 ZiBuDo: For console, we need a unix/ssh version of the server key 16:44:21 I'm not sure what the difference is between putty's and openssh's tbh 16:44:30 they seem to use different encodings for the keys 16:44:42 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:44:56 putty has a tool to convert between the two, iirc 16:45:48 hm 16:45:51 !seen johnstein 16:45:51 I last saw johnstein at Thu May 5 16:34:21 2016 UTC (4h 11m 30s ago) saying 'agreed. haven't heard back from r a x for a few days after I sent her my public key info' on ##crawl-dev. 16:46:20 oh, wonder if said tool works on linux 16:46:28 really, putty uses a different kind of ssh key than ssh somehow? 16:46:33 yeah 16:46:43 just a different textual format, the bits are the same 16:47:01 they may be but looking at cbro's, is the encoding different? 16:47:20 e.g. http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/keys/cbro_key and http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/keys/cbro_key.ppk 16:47:33 the server itself just needs the one key, right? you're talking abotu a different key format to distribute to clients? 16:47:59 yes it's one key on the server, but you give the key to your client 16:48:05 and putty accepts a different format than ssh 16:48:18 so servers have to distribute the key in both formats 16:48:23 right 16:50:34 weird 16:50:41 ok, seems puttygen can do this 16:50:51 let me do that and see if it works in my ssh 16:53:17 gammafunk: if i am joining the dev team, i add you as my TEAMCAPTAIN, or ? 16:53:46 :< cao doesn't yet have 0.18 16:54:02 amalloy: yeah, you can go ahead and do that, I'll add the lines I need to my rc a bit later today 16:54:14 oh yeah, and i guess i have to do it on not-cao 16:54:26 open call to tentatively named "Wizards Without Wizlabs" dev team 16:54:52 for devs obviously, not normal people LOL 16:55:16 http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/74545/what-difference-between-openssh-key-and-putty-key 16:55:31 the puttygen think to make a pem worked in my ssh 16:55:32 ^ how putty and openssh keys differ. in particular, the openssh private key is encrypted 16:55:37 aha 16:55:38 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:55:39 makes sense 16:55:45 optionally encrypted, anyway 16:55:48 s/think/thing/ 16:56:02 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:56:58 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:57:00 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:58:03 !lg * t 16:58:04 No games for * (t). 16:58:09 !lg * tall 16:58:24 678055. foulmouthboy the Insei (L2 VpMo), slain by Crazy Yiuf (a +4 quarterstaff of chaos) on D:3 (uniq_crazy_yiuf_cottage) on 2015-11-22 19:59:52, with 14 points after 403 turns and 0:06:27. 16:59:34 amalloy, I think it's always "encrypted" but may have an empty passphrase 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:03 so what you get out is different from the original, just in a "well known" way 17:00:10 i see 17:00:27 x.509 server keys do that too 17:01:20 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 17:02:30 -!- koboldina has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:02:30 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:03:22 -!- Guest25703 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:03:43 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:04:53 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:07:47 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:08:34 Stable (0.18) branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.18.1-1-g2f07953 17:09:08 oh nice, jorgrell 17:09:18 tbh kind of sad he didn't just call it "Jorgrun" 17:09:28 we do have Cheibriados after all 17:09:37 I guess the ell suffix is tradition 17:09:48 ??bot 17:09:48 bot ~ bots[1/3]: Bots that can be pm'd: announcement bots: Henzell (CAO, !), Gretell (CDO, @), Sizzell (CSZO, %), Lantell (CUE, $), Rotatell (CBRO, ^), Eksell (CXC, |); others: Varmin, Cheibriados (%), and Sequell (! ?? & and others) 17:09:59 welp. builds may take a while; the "new improved" network here has a small NAT table and my git clones are getting silently dropped 17:10:18 sneakernet reasons 17:10:23 wasn't IP6 going to mean we don't need NAT? 17:10:47 "need" vs "i just feel more secure with a nat" 17:10:47 chequers: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 17:10:49 sure, in 50 years when the US gets around to upgrading to it 17:10:50 !messages 17:10:50 (1/1) PleasingFungus said (3h 25m 24s ago): lld has updated 17:10:55 yay 17:11:37 and that's just the consumer level providers; private networks like this one will probably take another century after that >.> 17:12:11 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:12:19 maybe we'll convert to IP6 and metric at the same time in the states... 17:12:41 hah. I'm waiting for the UK to follow brexit with reversion to imperial units 17:14:16 <|amethyst> "A pint's a pound the world around... except in the UK" 17:14:51 <|amethyst> and most of the Commonwealth I guess 17:15:18 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:15:48 Well 0.18.1 linux debs are up, finally 17:16:01 are there osx builds? someone was asking on reddit 17:16:03 0.17.2 in the works, and 0.17.2 source and windows packages already up 17:16:15 chequers: aren't you following the cdo blog posts?! 17:16:53 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-48-g9fa930a (34) 17:18:34 i just woke up! 17:18:48 woke up to reddit, what a rude awakening... 17:19:11 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:19:15 hm, the google play image is broken on download.tm 17:22:23 if we didn't have submodules I'd retool this to use a local clone :/ (could probably do it even with but would take longer to sort it out) 17:23:06 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 17:23:13 ok, 0.18.1 console building 17:26:33 did we ever make it so that if you upgrade an old save that cleared tomb before zigfigs were placed there, to a version where a zigfig is placed there, you get the zigfig? 17:28:05 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 17:28:14 doubt it 17:28:18 doesn't seem like a priority 17:28:38 if you cleared elf before hall of blades was added there, should you get some nice weapons? 17:33:26 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 17:38:30 gammafunk: i have some website updates 17:38:42 to fix the google play images and play.htm 17:38:50 !time 17:38:50 Time: May 05, 2016, 09:38:50 PM, UTC. The 2016 0.18 tournament starts in 22 hours, 21 minutes and 9 seconds. 17:42:03 -!- tripout has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:42:57 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:43:02 -!- BanMido_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:44:36 gammafunk: I think I got the Unix key up, but it still asks for password so I am not sure why, probably because I don't want to turn off Password Authentication, but they key is up 17:44:54 -!- removeelyvilon_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:46:19 gammafunk: https://github.com/crawl/dcss-website/pull/2 17:48:56 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:52:34 -!- Diabl0658 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:02:05 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 18:03:25 -!- Chris7 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:05:11 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:07:37 ZiBuDo: you're probably not connecting with the right ssh identity, it works for me fine without a password 18:07:54 Meaning I can use the unix key for cjr and not get a password 18:08:03 -!- rarewave has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 18:08:11 gammafunk: can you show me what command you are using to get that? 18:08:39 ZiBuDo: well you need to update your ssh client config, once you do it's just ssh jorgrun@crawl.jorgrun.rocks and dgl pulls up 18:08:52 Host crawl.jorgrun.rocks IdentityFile ~/.ssh/cjr_rsa 18:08:55 on two lines 18:09:00 in my ~/.ssh/config 18:09:03 oh okay 18:09:13 there is a command-line option as well 18:09:20 to use a specific identity file, that is 18:09:32 yea i was using those 18:09:58 ZiBuDo: are you using the jorgrun login when you ssh? 18:10:13 -!- fixit_friend has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:10:14 as in jorgrun@crawl.jorgrun.rocks 18:10:16 -!- friendfixit has joined ##crawl-dev 18:10:20 i run: ssh -C -i jorgrun_key -l jorgrun crawl.jorgrun.rocks 18:11:01 hrm, do you want this -C option? 18:11:54 it still prompts without it 18:11:59 <|amethyst> -C is just compression 18:12:15 |amethyst: but is -C desirable? 18:12:16 <|amethyst> ZiBuDo: are you using an agent? 18:12:20 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I think so, yes 18:12:23 oh ok 18:12:32 it doesn't really impact latency, if that's your concern 18:12:49 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 18:12:52 I am connecting to my server using Putty then ssh into the same server with the key 18:12:52 well the ssh man page: Compression is desirable on modem lines and other slow connections, but will only slow down things on fast networks 18:13:21 written back when pentium 1s couldn't compress at line speed 18:13:56 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-a0-48-g9fa930a (34) 18:14:11 I don't think pentium 1s saw a lot of ssh usage tbqh 18:14:21 <|amethyst> ZiBuDo: where is your key? 18:14:43 the key is located in the directory i run the command at the moment 18:14:47 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I did lots of ssh from pentium 1s 18:14:50 should I put it in the .ssh folder 18:14:57 <|amethyst> ZiBuDo: I mean, can I get a copy so I can try? 18:15:07 |amethyst: you were probably atypical in that regard! 18:15:12 https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/console.html 18:15:52 you can specify it on the command line just as well from your ssh config 18:18:49 Yeah I bet given my internet connection speed, compression is actually worse, so I'll leave that off 18:21:18 <|amethyst> yeah, the key is fine in the sense that it doesn't seem to be encrypted 18:21:21 i get the same speed here, tested on downloading 50mb 18:21:24 of gzip data 18:21:46 <|amethyst> but the server is asking for a password 18:21:49 <|amethyst> let's see what -v says 18:22:09 <|amethyst> it just didn't accept the key 18:22:17 I'm reading that you probably don't want it unless your connection us under 5-10mbps which mine isn't 18:22:27 <|amethyst> debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password 18:22:28 <|amethyst> debug1: Next authentication method: publickey 18:22:28 <|amethyst> debug1: Trying private key: /home/neil/jorgrun_key 18:22:28 <|amethyst> debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password 18:22:28 <|amethyst> debug1: Next authentication method: password 18:22:58 weird, but I connected ok with it 18:23:07 -!- finrod_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:25:23 debug1: Trying private key: /home/gammafunk/.ssh/cjr_rsa 18:25:23 debug1: Authentication succeeded (publickey). 18:25:25 Authenticated to crawl.jorgrun.rocks ([158.69.27.140]:22). 18:25:51 <|amethyst> gammafunk: and your key ends in 5733lEYkcpE ? 18:25:55 let me see 18:26:06 nope 18:26:22 actually, ZiBuDo where did you get this unix key? 18:26:23 I converted your putty key to a pem key 18:26:37 with puttygen 18:27:14 http://dpaste.com/2MV7HS7 18:27:18 is what I'm using 18:27:57 <|amethyst> yes, if I convert the putty key I can connect with that 18:28:22 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 18:28:23 seems like ZiBuDo is giving out the wrong unix key 18:28:47 <|amethyst> also 18:29:08 <|amethyst> I would suggest installing 'ncurses-term' or whatever is the equivalent on your OS 18:29:33 <|amethyst> I can connect but then get kicked out with "Error opening terminal: gnome-256color." 18:29:53 he's ubuntu 14.04 18:30:00 <|amethyst> yeah, ncurses-term should be it then 18:30:08 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:30:17 interesting, do all servers show this login message before dgl starts? 18:30:21 <|amethyst> probably needs to be present both inside and outside the chroot 18:30:35 I only know this because I did that ssh -v thing when I saw |amethyst do it, and that stuff came up before dgl in the output 18:30:55 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 18:30:58 <|amethyst> most of them display something 18:31:04 shows a bunch of data that some admins would consider 'private' 18:31:30 0 packages can be updated. 18:31:30 0 updates are security updates. 18:31:39 good to know for me, gammafunk, ace hacker 18:31:52 also: *** System restart required *** 18:31:57 imagemagick...... 18:32:17 more like imagefanfic...no sorry I got nuthin 18:32:36 you want to apt-get purge update-motd 18:33:18 ah 18:33:25 how come qazlal doesnt keep you from being hurt by your own fireballs? 18:33:29 also cbro runs ubuntu 12.04, interesting 18:33:48 why would qaz do that 18:33:59 fireball is a cloud after all 18:34:03 <|amethyst> err 18:34:04 <|amethyst> no it's not 18:34:16 <|amethyst> it's an explosion 18:34:17 yeah explosions != cloud 18:34:49 explosions are far too ephemeral for qaz to concern himself with those 18:35:03 <|amethyst> and even for spells that leave a cloud, Qaz doesn't protect against the impact damage, only the cloud damage 18:35:07 <|amethyst> e.g. fire storm 18:35:27 well, i would buy that if fireball dealt physical damage, but it's all fire damage 18:36:17 <|amethyst> I think Qazlal might be a bit overpowered if it gave you rF+++ rC+++ etc 18:36:22 i think you're using a different definition of "cloud" than what everyone else is 18:36:24 <|amethyst> maybe not, though, because noise 18:36:38 a "mushroom cloud" is a "cloud" I suppose :) 18:36:39 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:36:52 <|amethyst> A cloud is one of those things that looks like (or maybe 0 or # depending on your glyph choice) 18:37:26 ZiBuDo: So on your console login page, we're not sure where you got that unix key, but it's not the right one. You can either use puttygen to convert your ppk or use the conversion here: http://dpaste.com/2MV7HS7 18:37:37 The putty key is fine, it's just the unix one that's a problem 18:37:38 <|amethyst> or, if you generated them separately 18:37:52 <|amethyst> make sure the authorized_keys file has both pubkeys 18:38:07 ah 18:38:12 like if there were in fact two keys? 18:38:22 hrm, that seems like a confusing thing to do though 18:38:25 uploading 0.18.1 signed builds for testing. the way local notwork is going, should only take 5 hours >.> 18:38:41 thanks geekosaur 18:38:49 <|amethyst> gammafunk: it's somewhat easier to generate a key with puttygen than to convert one 18:38:58 <|amethyst> in the sense that, to convert one, you have to read the man page 18:39:04 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:39:10 heh, yeah I guess so, but we can help him with the command 18:39:11 in fact 18:39:15 <|amethyst> :) 18:39:23 ...and in the process I discovered that editors aren't working in iterm any more for some reason (weird key translations happening). wtf 18:39:37 ZiBuDo: puttygen jorgrun.ppk -O private-openssh -o cjr_rsa 18:39:47 <|amethyst> BTW 18:39:51 <|amethyst> in your authorized_keys fine 18:39:58 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:39:58 <|amethyst> s/fine/file/ 18:40:08 <|amethyst> I highly recommend prepending no-agent-forwarding,no-port-forwarding,no-X11-forwarding 18:40:09 ZiBuDo: given your jorgrun.ppk, that command converts it to the openssh format in the file named cjr_rsa (feel free to use whatever filename you like) 18:40:50 |amethyst: meaning ZiBuDo should, to disable those forwardings? 18:41:12 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:41:12 <|amethyst> anyone running a crawl ssh server, really 18:41:14 <|amethyst> but yes 18:41:35 i don't run a crawl ssh server, but those all sound like very good ideas 18:43:34 <|amethyst> aha 18:43:56 <|amethyst> the instructions on wiki have you do that in /etc/ssh/sshd_config instead 18:44:16 I also added no-user-rc and command="/path/to/dgl" 18:44:32 just in case there's a bug in dgamelaunch which let people mess around with the filesystem 18:44:45 (also, authorized_keys, .ssh and the homedir should be owned by root) 18:45:02 gammafunk: i just generated the key and added it to the user profile in the ssh 18:45:21 ZiBuDo: yeah, the thing is it seems like you made a brand new key 18:45:31 ZiBuDo: you want to make a conversion of the putty one you made, not make a new key 18:45:39 I hope this isn't getting asked too often, but does anyone know when CAO is going to be hosting 18.0? 18:45:48 they're just different key distribution formats, putty vs unix 18:45:50 0.18* 18:46:06 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:46:06 ZiBuDo: but see that puttygen command I gave or just download the conversion I made in that dpaste url above 18:46:29 nikheizen: when johnstein gets access 18:46:36 I'm going to add cjr to the websites now 18:46:53 let me do the dcss-website stuff first 18:46:53 then wordpress, I guess 18:46:53 chequers: so: it is a mystery? 18:47:05 nikheizen: it's not much of a mystery 18:47:09 nikheizen: we are waiting to hear back from r.ax, i think 18:47:30 &versions 0.18 18:47:36 CAO: none, CBRO: 0.18.0-1-g0107ab7, CDO: 0.18.0-1-g0107ab7, CPO: 0.18.0-1-g0107ab7, CSZO: none, CUE: 0.18.0-1-g0107ab7, CWZ: none, CXC: 0.18.0-2-g198d6d4, LLD: none 18:47:39 i'm preparing to play my own t games on cbro instead of cao, just in case 18:47:44 the official answer is "maybe we'll get 0.18 on cao before start of tourney, we'll have to see, but it will get added hopefully within a few days at worst" 18:48:17 there's also cjr 18:48:21 okay cool. ...will cbro be able to handle the load? 18:48:30 it's not in cao scoring but it is in tournament scoring 18:48:33 and it does have 0.18 18:48:39 ??cjr 18:48:39 cjr[1/1]: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/ Hosted in Montreal by Zibudo (admin@jorgrun.rocks). SSH username jorgrun, password rocks. Currently games are visible on Sequell, but CAO scoring is a work in progress. 18:48:48 Montreal! 18:48:50 and it will get into cao scoring in not too long 18:48:56 yeah, Canada, sorry about that 18:49:03 we couldn't stop the Canadian onslought 18:49:13 (i am Canadian) 18:49:23 oh, sorry about that 18:49:30 ssh'ing to montreal is a violation of the us cryptography-as-munition laws 18:49:31 thats our line 18:49:36 Maybe I should remember that not all canadians are Arrhythmia 18:49:40 (well, would have been twenty years ago) 18:51:02 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:51:34 a response from r.ax was posted on the sa forums 18:52:26 we already did away with grunt, the rest of you canadians are next 18:53:20 oh, on sa? 18:54:01 "asked on IRC if [0.18] would be up [on cao] tomorrow and got" 18:54:08 "probably? someone's offered to take care of it and i intend to give them access, i'm just super hosed and also not sure how to actually manifest that fact in the technical world" 18:54:21 "hopefully i'll be able to do that tomorrow" 18:54:31 -!- genericpseudonym has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:55:14 <|amethyst> hm 18:55:22 <|amethyst> now it's a race 18:55:36 every time i get an email from gammafunk my heart skips a beat, sure it will finally be the confession of love i've been waiting for. but it's always just an email from github on his behalf: "Merged #2." 18:56:10 wow, that emails people? I'm just clicking buttons 18:56:28 it does if they're subscribed to the repo. i haven't yet unsubscribed from that one 18:56:30 I'm going to blame chequers on that one 18:56:32 yeh, it emails 18:56:54 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:57:17 you should be able to set your org default watch status 18:57:18 Yeah I need to get all the cjr stuff in so we can mention this 18:57:19 random question 18:57:21 to 'not watching' 18:57:29 btw, the tournament page is really live now 18:57:31 is it possible for Gozag's bribe branch to bribe a seraph into backstabbing it's allies 18:57:32 and then I'll make a blog post, maybe I'll also mention that CAO may not be ready for tournemtn 18:57:35 *tournament 18:57:38 things should Start Working in 22hrs 18:57:42 Lightli: i would imagine so 18:57:43 <|amethyst> it'll be ready 18:57:54 <|amethyst> ??time 18:57:54 I don't have a page labeled time in my learndb. Did you mean: tide, tome. 18:57:58 <|amethyst> !time 18:57:58 Time: May 05, 2016, 10:57:58 PM, UTC. The 2016 0.18 tournament starts in 21 hours, 2 minutes and 1 second. 18:58:01 meanwhile it's not possible to bribe the demon lords 18:58:02 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:58:04 I won't be around at the start of the tournament, can someone please put their hand up in case the tourney scripts DIAF? I will be ~3hrs late for the start 18:58:19 -!- LexAckson__ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:58:31 chequers: I'm not sure if elliptic will be avail 18:58:44 guess worst case the website will just not update for 3hrs, and there's no nemelex combos 18:58:47 elliptic: will you be around near start of t to check the scripts, by any chance? chequers will be a few hours later 18:58:57 I know it's just game mechanics, but it's funny that Cerebov is able to resist the temptation of money but the paragons of divine might can be bribed into murdering their fellow angels 18:59:00 Yeah I was going to try to play for the first win with a stream 18:59:06 nemelex combos are dumb anyway, there's no Be :(( 18:59:08 which would put me in a bad position to mess with the scripts 18:59:14 there shouldn't be any Be!! 18:59:19 Lightli: just confirmed it in wizmode fwiw 18:59:22 what is this ez-mode 18:59:30 gammafunk: "i'll just delete this win by demise... and there! I have the fastest win!" 18:59:40 demise? lol 18:59:41 <|amethyst> Lightli: seraphim etc are used to following orders from TSO 18:59:43 there are some Mi in the candidate list 18:59:49 <|amethyst> Lightli: you're just giving them new orders to follow 18:59:59 !lg demise won min=dur 19:00:00 46. Demise the Executioner (L25 HOBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-11-19 05:04:56, with 1664584 points after 63057 turns and 0:57:37. 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:00:07 <|amethyst> Lightli: whereas Cerebov is lord of his own domain 19:00:08 that's pretty far from the record 19:00:13 seraphim are sheeple, desperate for someone to take orders from 19:00:14 I'd be worried about simm though 19:00:20 !lg lessens won min=dur 19:00:21 111. lessens the Executioner (L24 MiBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-03-13 21:15:53, with 1954733 points after 48953 turns and 1:13:49. 19:00:31 yeah he won last with not even a great time 19:00:35 it's more about 'not dying' 19:00:44 but I doubt I'll be very close at all, I have very little practice 19:00:47 sure 19:00:52 gammafunk: who else is on the team? 19:01:00 did you push those website changes to prod? 19:01:03 amalloy: I haven't scouted yet, feel free to find some 19:01:35 do you know anyplace where crawl devs hang out? 19:01:35 I got like 3 different things going, I'll get to websites 19:01:42 np 19:01:47 not sure if doy or dpeg are playing 19:01:50 there's wheals 19:01:53 amalloy: try the tavern 19:01:59 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:02:16 he may need us to make a windows 3.1 build for him, but he might be playing 19:02:16 gammafunk: it works now 19:02:20 nice 19:02:24 thanks! 19:02:31 minmay is tavern's favorite dev 19:02:44 I will not be on the same team as an elf lover 19:02:55 ??cjr 19:02:55 cjr[1/1]: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/ Hosted in Montreal by Zibudo (admin@jorgrun.rocks). SSH username jorgrun, password rocks. Currently games are visible on Sequell, but CAO scoring is a work in progress. 19:03:04 yeah I'm getting crj on websites now 19:03:08 <|amethyst> amalloy: I mean, how many other devs have uniques named after them? 19:03:09 then it's on to 0.17.2 debs 19:03:24 =version 19:03:24 trunk: 0.19-a0-48-g9fa930a; 0.18: 0.18.1-1-g2f07953; 0.17: 0.17.2 19:03:27 <|amethyst> or their elf girlfriends, whatever 19:03:44 ZiBuDo: the thing that works is the ssh key for cjr? which key is it? 19:03:55 -!- unmovable has joined ##crawl-dev 19:04:01 -!- unmovable has quit [Client Quit] 19:04:07 both work, one is for putty, the other for unix i believe 19:04:09 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 19:04:29 i mean, where is the key 19:04:57 it doesn't seem to be the cao or cbro key 19:05:00 <|amethyst> ZiBuDo: BTW, is your Hall Of Memes picture *supposed* to be "The image you are requesting does not exist or is no longer available" 19:05:07 yes 19:05:13 <|amethyst> amalloy: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/console.html 19:05:20 chequers: hrm, so I need to add this entry to servers.json, right? 19:05:33 where do I find the latlongdecimal 19:05:36 it's in montreal 19:05:40 ??cjr 19:05:41 cjr[1/1]: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/ Hosted in Montreal by Zibudo (admin@jorgrun.rocks). SSH username jorgrun, password rocks. Currently games are visible on Sequell, but CAO scoring is a work in progress. 19:05:41 <|amethyst> wikipedia? 19:06:06 <|amethyst> 45°30′N 73°34′W but you have to convert to decimal 19:06:23 ZiBuDo: cool, works 19:06:28 cool 19:06:40 oh I found it 19:07:03 !learn edit cjr s/SSH.*rocks./SSH login info: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/console.html./ 19:07:03 Syntax is: !learn edit TERM[NUM] s/REGEX/REPLACE/opts 19:07:24 ugh 19:07:24 use | 19:07:24 insteald of / 19:07:25 !learn edit cjr s|SSH.*rocks.|SSH login info: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/console.html.| 19:07:25 cjr[1/1]: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/ Hosted in Montreal by Zibudo (admin@jorgrun.rocks). SSH login info: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/console.html. Currently games are visible on Sequell, but CAO scoring is a work in progress. 19:07:27 yeah 19:08:11 might add bot info as [2] there? 19:08:28 yea, Jorgrell uses prefix "=" 19:08:56 !learn add cjr[2] Bot is Jorgrell, prefix = 19:08:56 cjr[2/2]: Bot is Jorgrell, prefix = 19:08:58 ??cao 19:08:58 cao[1/2]: Crawl server, located in Phoenix, AZ. USA, http://crawl.akrasiac.org/ or crawl.akrasiac.org ssh port 22 ssh-username:joshua ssh-password: joshua. Runs the latest stable release, trunk, and robotfindskitten. Further information on the website and ??putty entries for Windows users. Also see http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/howto 19:09:01 ??bots 19:09:01 bots[1/3]: Bots that can be pm'd: announcement bots: Henzell (CAO, !), Gretell (CDO, @), Sizzell (CSZO, %), Lantell (CUE, $), Rotatell (CBRO, ^), Eksell (CXC, |); others: Varmin, Cheibriados (%), and Sequell (! ?? & and others) 19:09:01 ??cao[2 19:09:01 cao[2/2]: Webtiles is at http://crawl.akrasiac.org:8080/. 19:09:35 !learn edit bots[1 s/;/, Jorgrell (CJR, =);/ 19:09:36 bots[1/3]: Bots that can be pm'd: announcement bots: Henzell (CAO, !), Gretell (CDO, @), Sizzell (CSZO, %), Lantell (CUE, $), Rotatell (CBRO, ^), Eksell (CXC, |), Jorgrell (CJR, =); others: Varmin, Cheibriados (%), and Sequell (! ?? & and others) 19:09:42 the os/2 warp port is working, right? 19:10:18 !learn edit bots[1] s/\QSizzell (CSZO, %), \E// 19:10:18 bots[1/3]: Bots that can be pm'd: announcement bots: Henzell (CAO, !), Gretell (CDO, @), Lantell (CUE, $), Rotatell (CBRO, ^), Eksell (CXC, |), Jorgrell (CJR, =); others: Varmin, Cheibriados (%), and Sequell (! ?? & and others) 19:10:20 <|amethyst> wheals: yes, you can take one of three pipes to go to os/4-1, os/5-1, or os/390 19:10:55 i dunno, i guess maybe the Sizzell "contact info" is still useful even though cszo doesn't run games? 19:11:35 <|amethyst> mostly I didn't remember to take sizzell down 19:11:38 <|amethyst> is it useful? 19:11:49 not to me 19:11:50 -!- MarvinPA has left ##crawl-dev 19:11:53 <|amethyst> I would suspect not very 19:12:16 -!- Sizzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:12:32 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 19:14:28 -!- tripout has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:14:30 ug 19:15:02 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:15:28 otoh none of the bots other than Sequell, Cheibriados, Gretell are useful to me anyway, even though they run games 19:15:45 how could you not include beem... 19:19:00 chequers: hrm, I've updated (after breaking and then fixing servers.json), and cjr is in the play.htm list, but my chrome doesn't like geolocation 19:19:19 I get the "Can't get your location :(" 19:20:08 there's also that dgl script on cdo that can look across servers 19:20:12 I forget who maintains that 19:21:00 <|amethyst> gammafunk: are you doing https? 19:21:40 I just clicked on the big green button 19:21:42 hm, yes, works for https. maybe the main page should redirect 19:21:50 gammafunk: chrome needs https 19:21:54 Stable (0.18) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18.1-1-g2f07953 19:21:55 oh 19:21:58 i'm slow 19:22:05 oh ok 19:22:08 yeah that does work 19:22:28 but I am now getting "site took too long to respond" for cjr 19:24:30 ok, 4th try it connected 19:24:36 -!- Henzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:24:55 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 19:25:01 <|amethyst> !versions 19:25:10 <|amethyst> !version 19:25:23 <|amethyst> !versions 19:25:25 trunk: not found; 0.18: not found; 0.17: not found; 0.16: not found; 0.15: not found; 0.14: not found; 0.13: not found; 0.12: not found; 0.11: not found; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 19:25:26 <|amethyst> !version 19:25:30 <|amethyst> err 19:25:31 gammafunk: whie you're there, how often does the live games page update on cdo? 19:25:32 trunk: not found; 0.18: not found; 0.17: not found; 0.16: not found; 0.15: not found; 0.14: not found; 0.13: not found; 0.12: not found; 0.11: not found; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 19:25:35 <|amethyst> oh 19:25:39 &versions 0.18 19:25:40 -!- Henzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:25:45 CAO: none, CBRO: 0.18.0-1-g0107ab7, CDO: 0.18.0-1-g0107ab7, CPO: 0.18.0-1-g0107ab7, CSZO: none, CUE: 0.18.0-1-g0107ab7, CWZ: none, CXC: 0.18.0-2-g198d6d4, LLD: none 19:26:20 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 19:26:24 <|amethyst> !version 19:26:34 -!- unmovable has joined ##crawl-dev 19:26:34 -!- unmovable has quit [Changing host] 19:26:34 -!- unmovable has joined ##crawl-dev 19:26:38 <|amethyst> !versions 19:26:54 trunk: 0.19-a0-47-g1fa3c7d; 0.18: 0.18.1-1-g2f07953; 0.17: 0.17.2; 0.16: 0.16.2-12-gd0ad4c3; 0.15: 0.15.2; 0.14: 0.14.2; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 19:26:59 mrrr. now stuck at "loading" 19:27:13 overloaded already, or is this my local notwork being its usual self? 19:27:23 marsbars (L1 DsSk) (D:1) 19:27:23 Farmadillo (L2 HaHu) (D:3) 19:27:23 Webtiles server stopped. 19:27:24 -!- Kramell has quit [Excess Flood] 19:27:24 Sbamiri (L3 DrTm) (D:1) 19:27:25 Pyromatic (L1 DrTm) (D:1) 19:27:28 haxsii (L9 FoAK) (D:8) 19:27:30 Korvan (L14 FoFi) (Lair:6) 19:27:33 Frenoss (L10 DgAE) (D:9) 19:27:35 marcb3 (L1 DECj) (D:1) 19:27:37 Luckless (L13 MfSk) (Lair:4) 19:27:40 fallenxxxsky (L8 MiBe) (D:5) 19:27:42 Antem (L17 TeWz) (Shoals:4) 19:27:54 lark774 (L2 OpIE) (D:1) 19:27:54 filthy (L9 GrVM) (D:6) 19:27:54 Bananafish1988 (L14 MiBe) (Orc:4) 19:27:54 !lm antem x=src 19:27:54 17035. [2016-05-05 23:27:23] [src=cao] Antem the Cruncher (L17 TeWz of Gozag) (Shoals:4) 19:27:54 corvin (L13 DECj) (Lair:8) 19:27:56 coupon (L3 DESu) (D:2) 19:27:59 demiskeletong (L13 MfGl) (D:14) 19:28:01 FocusNinja (L7 SpEn) (D:5) 19:28:01 !!! is it gett 0.18? 19:28:04 FearTheChris (L11 FoFi) (D:10) 19:28:06 Stigmas (L7 DsNe) (D:5) 19:28:08 Superwolf (L13 MiBe) (Lair:7) 19:28:09 <|amethyst> yes 19:28:11 415raechill (L5 VSCj) (D:3) 19:28:13 Wolpertinger (L16 HaHu) (D:9) 19:28:15 Bellerephron (L8 NaAs) (D:7) 19:28:18 Naruni (L10 GrFE) (Lair:1) 19:28:20 Krsqk (L6 DrTm) (D:4) 19:28:23 Flutterguy (L9 DsAs) (D:8) 19:28:25 donkeydoodoo (L13 DEWz) (Lair:3) 19:28:28 zantega (L17 DsBe) (Spider:2) 19:28:30 SillyWilly (L8 DECj) (D:5) 19:28:32 Gerad (L22 TeBe) (Depths:1) 19:28:35 enigma74 (L11 GrFi) (D:9) 19:28:37 Rayonic (L23 HaHu) (Crypt:2) 19:28:40 ObaWulf (L8 MuNe) (D:6) 19:28:42 sage1234 (L24 OpGl) (Orc:2) 19:28:44 thriftstorewar (L6 NaWr) (D:5) 19:28:47 tempest (L27 HOFi) (Pan) 19:28:49 yay (L18 MiBe) (Abyss:1) 19:28:52 Sporophyte (L24 DsAr) (Vaults:4) 19:28:54 pun (L17 MiBe) (Snake:4) 19:28:57 RBrandon (L20 OgWz) (Spider:3) 19:28:59 horredgrones (L27 TeCj) (D:13) 19:29:01 DeviousJester (L26 CeFi) (Crypt:2) 19:29:04 Cadash (L22 DsFi) (Depths:5) 19:29:20 Webtiles server started. 19:30:43 |amethyst to the rescue, just like in my dreams 19:31:39 chequers: every 5 mins, according to crontab 19:31:44 <|amethyst> rax, johnstein: I updated CAO to 0.18, but you should still work out getting access 19:31:46 -!- Dracunos has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:31:47 wheee 19:31:54 -!- Dracunos_ is now known as Dracunos 19:32:10 -!- endou_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:32:10 hrm, I wonder if the dgl thing will just work automatically? 19:32:14 I see it reads servers.json 19:32:16 |amethyst: next request /cgi-bin/teams-0.18 19:32:18 gammafunk: it will 19:32:28 ok 19:32:33 guess I'd need to start a game to see it 19:33:02 <|amethyst> chequers: done 19:33:33 ZiBuDo: welp, cjr is on the website play/geolocate thing and is also included in the "How to Play" and server links stuff in crawl.develz.org/wordpress/ so that really should be everything 19:34:00 aside from CAO, but we'll work that out with johnstein when he gets access and has time, probably in a week or so 19:34:05 cool thanks 19:34:16 oh, I need to make a blog post about it 19:34:17 <|amethyst> gammafunk: what on CAO? 19:34:20 |amethyst: ace, it works 19:34:23 |amethyst: adding cjr to scoring 19:34:35 |amethyst: if you have time to do that, it'd be great, but if not we can wait for Jorgrell 19:34:38 er dammit 19:34:40 johnstein: 19:34:44 <|amethyst> gammafunk: ah, yeah 19:34:49 <|amethyst> gammafunk: also, all the 0.18s :) 19:34:53 yeah :) 19:35:01 I know you never wanted to have to touch that thing again 19:35:04 when are you making the tourney post gammafunk ? 19:35:11 chequers: that was made some time ago 19:35:15 dang 19:35:16 before the release 19:35:21 <|amethyst> scoring is down 19:35:24 <|amethyst> let's see 19:35:29 oh yeah. I thought you were going to make another 19:35:30 oh! it got my game last night 19:35:35 s/!/?/ 19:35:36 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:36:03 Yeah I'm going to make apost about cjr and will include the fact that cao is is now on 0.18 19:36:23 was going to see if i had time to get our scoreboard up and running for official announcement pre-tourney 19:36:36 but I guess we'll aim for post-tourney, since everyone is just checking the tourney board anyhow 19:36:42 scoreboard? You mean..yeah 19:36:51 I think coordinating that so close to t is a bad idea 19:37:09 but post-t sounds great 19:37:42 it's mostly working now, some obscure stats are wrong (streaks) 19:37:54 <|amethyst> dammit, I need to make a version of vim's ctrl-a that skips over "-0" 19:38:30 <|amethyst> I keep trying to ctrl-a things like "milestones-0.17.txt" into -0.18, but instead it becomes "milestones1.17.txt" 19:39:09 /172c18 :P 19:39:14 n.n.n.n. 19:39:39 * chequers did that a lot in the tourney script update 19:39:41 <|amethyst> or just /17 would work 19:40:05 ^a is some kind of numeric increment command? 19:40:08 <|amethyst> yeah 19:40:30 woah, what's decrement 19:40:34 <|amethyst> ctrl-x 19:40:40 <|amethyst> for the configs I did V