00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01:00 -!- potato_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:02:32 as in, there is no path from any upstair to any downstair? 00:03:21 -!- techieAgnostic is now known as tAFK 00:05:21 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:07:59 -!- tAFK has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:18:07 is anyone able to create tournament banner images? 00:18:19 -!- BanMido_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:18:52 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:19:16 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest64716 00:19:51 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:20:23 -!- Nerem has quit [Read error: No route to host] 00:21:36 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:22:06 I made some once. it was kinda tedious but I finally got a workflow 00:22:14 it's been a while 00:22:32 and they didn't look all that great 00:22:56 is it just a matter of editing a line of text in the svg to change the wording, and then some hex colour codes? 00:22:59 or more complex 00:24:01 I did a lot more steps 00:24:09 what tool did you use? 00:24:09 following instructions from somewhere 00:24:14 Inkscape 00:24:20 inkscape:export-filename="/home/kibble/Pictures/bannertier2candidate2.png" 00:24:24 I may have a how-to at home 00:24:31 there's a patching step 00:24:37 pathing 00:24:45 to do the banner effect 00:24:53 it makes the text wavy 00:25:01 text and design 00:25:20 I'm not at home atm. I can look when I get home. 00:25:40 maybe it was in the tourney repo though? 00:25:53 or else I copied some instructions from elliptic 00:25:57 from IRC 00:25:59 i'll try to figure it out 00:26:03 i can't see anything in the repo 00:26:07 elliptic: know how to make banner images? 00:26:20 ill be home in a couple hours 00:27:07 cool 00:29:34 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:29:38 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:30:07 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 00:32:41 chequers: I have awful internet right now and can't look for more details, but iirc there is a file named something like bannerfactory.svg somewhere in the repo 00:33:00 and people who know how to use inkscape have found it fairly straightforward to use that to create new banners 00:33:38 (I've even done it myself, though not recently because I don't really know inkscape and other people are better at it 00:33:40 ) 00:35:08 I think Grunt made the banners the last few times, though he hasn't been around much recently 00:35:57 yeah, i wouldn't count on him for this 00:35:59 sad to say 00:36:30 -!- Guest64716 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:41:33 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:48:03 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:49:34 chequers: must have been grunt who helped me. 00:51:53 What if we add auto-identification for pots of magic under Pakellas? Small flavour bonus. 00:52:46 don't we already effectively have that 00:53:01 also, what flavour? 00:54:51 lemon 00:54:53 I mean MP is kinda pakellas' thing. As curse is Ash's 00:55:03 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:55:07 I thought MP was Vehumet's thing. Or, perhaps, Sif's. 00:55:22 Or maybe non-deck evocables are Pak's thing, which is why Pak IDs those 00:55:32 :P 00:55:32 We have it, but not exactly. Right now I spent one ?identify on a pot of magicx 00:55:48 -!- shnurlf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:55:54 I don't see that as a problem. 00:55:59 pak's !magic gifts are not really the god's core concept, but rather a way to make sure its core concept doesn't create tedious micromanagement 00:56:08 also i wouldn't be surprised if they vanished in 0.19 00:56:18 or were drastically reworked in some way 00:56:32 !magic in general, or pak's gifting of them? 00:57:11 latter 01:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:07 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:00:41 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 01:00:48 elliptic: thanks for the tips 01:01:09 I would support auto-id because it's dumb for P to give you mystery pots, an experienced player could just inscribe manually 01:02:18 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:02:50 er, i assume the gifted ones are gifted pre-id'd... 01:02:54 if they aren't, they should be 01:03:21 Pak will gift them directly down your gullet 01:03:21 update: they are 01:05:32 -!- koboldina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:08:25 ah, you just don't get them identified until you get one? yeah 01:09:00 -!- Klaymen has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:09:10 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 01:09:14 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:09:27 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 01:12:31 -!- ahriman has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 01:13:49 -!- jefus- has joined ##crawl-dev 01:14:04 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:16:35 -!- jeefus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:17:10 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:19:33 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-36-g4a0968a (34) 01:21:25 -!- Idolo has quit [] 01:23:09 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 01:26:19 &rc arglure 01:26:19 https://crawl.project357.org/rc-files/trunk/Arglure.rc 01:26:51 -!- FireSight has quit [] 01:31:56 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:38:07 -!- glaas has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:39:50 hm 01:39:54 it's impossible to burn the tree in wucad mu 01:39:59 i'm not clear why 01:40:08 like, it uses veto_fire, but: why 01:40:26 oh, nvm, they're map borders 01:40:28 that's silly 01:40:51 <|amethyst> FR: endless forest 01:40:56 <|amethyst> to go with open sea and endless lava 01:41:04 <|amethyst> or was that lava sea 01:41:11 <|amethyst> maybe it should be "tree sea" 01:42:07 <|amethyst> also, open sea and lava sea should probably have DCHAR_PERMAWALL, no? 01:42:22 I don't remember what a dchar is 01:42:28 <|amethyst> console glyph 01:42:49 <|amethyst> ▓ instead of # 01:44:02 hrm, I don't think I have special glyphs for those in my rc 01:44:10 not sure what would be good, not that's it's super important i guess 01:44:21 <|amethyst> currently they're just # 01:44:31 but an ETC color? 01:44:34 <|amethyst> except the two permawalls 01:44:45 <|amethyst> open sea is darkblue, lava sea darkread 01:44:49 <|amethyst> s/read/red/ 01:44:50 ah ok 01:45:05 tabstorm is playing dcss-ca if you want to watch 01:45:25 <|amethyst> there is (or was) one vault with a weird open sea glyph in the middle, which it even lampshaded 01:45:39 <|amethyst> but otherwise they're just map borders 01:45:56 I don't want to watch dcss-ca, no 01:46:04 <|amethyst> I guess permawall is a little different because it can appear around some vaults 01:46:22 hrm, I want to say that the lava sea...maybe it was just a trove that used it 01:46:30 <|amethyst> ah, maybe that was it 01:46:33 <|amethyst> btw, if you missed it 01:46:50 <|amethyst> minmay suggests giving clear stone a different colour 01:46:52 <|amethyst> to distinguish it from clear rock 01:47:13 could do I suppose, kind of like how we do with crystal walls 01:47:14 <|amethyst> his suggestion was blue, mine was lightblue and move grates to a different glyph 01:47:23 <|amethyst> since grates work more like statues than like walls 01:47:34 I use a different glyph for all walls types, but that's not an option I guess 01:47:40 it is super nice though 01:48:14 chequers: oh, i'd like to see. where? 01:48:18 <|amethyst> Could put grates on ♯ but I guess that's probably not supported everywhere 01:48:21 it'd be cool to have the ca dev in here sometime 01:48:48 man that's super tiny in my gnome-terminal font 01:48:53 guess I use too small a font size 01:49:10 PleasingFungus: http://crawl.homedns.org/crawl#watch-tabstorm 01:49:19 PleasingFungus: he's scared of this channel 01:49:21 <|amethyst> it's tiny with my font too 01:49:24 noooo! 01:49:27 why would he be scared!!! 01:49:31 <|amethyst> not sure if it's actually in this font or if it's being substituted 01:49:35 Our powers are legendary... 01:49:42 emoji glyphs pls 01:49:44 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:49:57 -!- twelwe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:50:41 <|amethyst> Ш is not taken, is in WGL4 (but not CP437), and is vaguely grate-like 01:50:51 <|amethyst> or there's ╬ 01:51:15 -!- tw12we has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:51:15 I like using # for grates and shading characters for actual walls 01:51:40 <|amethyst> yeah, that makes sense but I think it would be controversial to move walls off # in the default charset :) 01:51:58 I think I might use different ones for supernaturally hard walls as well 01:52:17 yeah, some people I've talked to have expressed that it makes wall tiles harder to count or something, which I understand even if I find it a bit silly 01:52:32 Well you can do that presently, but we're talking about what would be widely accepting as new defaults 01:52:39 yeah 01:52:39 *accepted 01:52:58 <|amethyst> more glyph FRs: for two spiders standing on the same square 01:53:06 haha 01:53:07 lol 01:53:15 but only if they're the last in a group of monsters? 01:53:20 <|amethyst> :) 01:53:30 hrm 01:53:32 <|amethyst> ſ when a spider is standing to the left of another monster 01:54:31 http://sprunge.us/VRUD this is prompting before the player confirms a target selection, just when the player is moving the targetter around. trying to figure out where to move it 01:55:17 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: you could check is_targeting 01:55:20 I don't know why I don't know this, but does crawl use ≈ for anything by default 01:55:45 water/lava, in unicode? 01:55:47 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-36-g4a0968a 01:55:52 unless yu mean as a command 01:56:03 ≈ as a command would be rather difficult to input 01:56:04 |amethyst: ah, that sounds right 01:56:26 but yeah I meant as a map glyph :p 01:56:28 i'm not clear on why other prompts for the player don't run into this problem 01:56:30 <|amethyst> G-Flex: depends on your keyboard and your compose map :) 01:57:27 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 01:58:13 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:58:41 -!- Zannick has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:59:45 a perfect grate 01:59:50 -!- dpeg has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:00:02 more like a perfect lightning spire I guess 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:32 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 02:00:45 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 02:02:25 I propose 㰴 02:02:37 Unicode Han Character '(of statement) to grate on the ear; earnest and faithful remonstrance' (U+3C34) 02:03:20 chequers, https://gist.github.com/jmbjr/d9278f9357ea1a4de75804262f30caeb 02:03:30 that's my instructions to myself on how to do the banners 02:03:51 image-templates/bannerfactory.svg basically has similar instructions in the file 02:04:06 the critical piece is the pathing part 02:04:15 pretty lean instructions, I know 02:05:02 ty! 02:05:19 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 02:06:51 -!- jefus- is now known as jefus 02:07:44 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-37-gd6153c6: Prompt for god-hated tree destruction (gammafunk) 10(7 minutes ago, 2 files, 30+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d6153c6f3218 02:08:00 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.18] * 0.18-b1-23-gf76aad1: Prompt for god-hated tree destruction (gammafunk) 10(7 minutes ago, 2 files, 30+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f76aad11abc3 02:08:02 if this breaks everything i will laugh 02:09:09 PleasingFungus: btw there is ##circusfork if you want to start developer relations the other way around 02:09:18 ya, i was informed 02:09:28 i'm way too lazy to hang out in more than one irc channel at once, tho. 02:09:29 i suggest u dont join 02:09:36 being the first to join shows weakness and inferiority 02:09:58 chequers, if I wasn't stupid busy these days I would volunteer to help make banners. 02:09:58 <|amethyst> instead, you should piss on his leg 02:10:10 <|amethyst> that's how you establish control 02:10:10 hopefully for 0.19! 02:10:21 what |amethyst said 02:10:43 i'm going to assume johnstein was responding to |amethyst 02:10:44 i came back to the computer 2am 02:10:46 for golden showers 02:10:47 +1 02:10:49 <|amethyst> :) 02:10:53 @2am 02:11:11 <|amethyst> 0.19 plan: replace food clock with bladder clock 02:11:14 is there a way to run a search on github through commit titles? 02:11:21 no 02:11:23 now i have to read scrollback 8-) 02:11:39 <|amethyst> fixit_friend: you can do it from the command line anyway, dunno about github 02:11:42 git tag -a 0.19-a0 -m "piss on his leg" 02:11:45 or from irc 02:11:54 |amethyst, pleasure ensure that relieving oneself upon fire elementals and alike results in steam clouds 02:12:01 %git :/[aA]gony 02:12:01 07gammafunk02 * 0.17-a0-1301-ga863c44: Merge pull request #54 from amalloy/master 10(11 months ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a863c440da54 02:12:10 whoa it was me 02:12:13 s/pleasure/please/ 02:12:15 wow 02:12:24 that was not freudian, i swear 02:12:28 %git :/dcssca spell failure 02:12:28 Could not find commit :/dcssca spell failure (git returned 128) 02:12:50 doesn't search the fork 02:13:01 alas 02:13:28 <|amethyst> would be nice to add support for multiple repos to chei 02:14:06 <|amethyst> then it could announce commits/PRs for sequell, submodules, dgamelaunch-config, itself, etc 02:14:24 <|amethyst> and forks 02:14:38 careful with that rabbit hole, ##crawl has more bot talk than talk talk ;) 02:14:38 also peeing on fire elementals 02:14:52 but that sounds nice actually 02:15:11 nothing says 'dev' more than a steady stream of commit messages filling up the room 02:15:30 most people don't realize this, but gammafunk is a bot 02:15:39 what is its sigil? 02:15:43 i knew that 02:15:57 whoa, you get a prompt for god hated tree destruction now? 02:16:01 <|amethyst> johnstein: γ 02:16:18 * johnstein is too slow trying to find it in character map 02:16:22 that would have saved me a lot of trouble last time i wanted to use a lightning wand to burn some trees with dith 02:16:33 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:16:37 esp since each tree that caught fire earned me more penance 02:17:28 that is an amazing detail i did not know 02:17:55 ProzacElf: lol 02:18:40 which? that dith would call you out for each new tree? 02:18:54 i mean, you were the one who said gammafunk was a bot, so that can't be the detail 02:19:26 I wonder if fire elementals not under your control can get you in trouble that way 02:19:54 beem is a bot, I just make the bots 02:19:59 they can't burn trees 02:20:07 but then they kill their master... 02:20:43 <|amethyst> FR: fire elementals inherently have inner flame 02:21:12 <|amethyst> (does inner flame explosion burn trees?) 02:21:15 hmm, okay. how about fire crabs? 02:21:22 |amethyst: not at present, i think 02:21:24 it should 02:21:26 if those start a forest fire... 02:21:42 i don't think i've ever blown up an inner flame guy next to a tree 02:21:43 also, good news: the dcss-ca guy was wrong about our spell fail chances being incorrect 02:21:51 γspeak 02:21:54 γdance 02:21:55 it's just a heady mix of crawlcode & statistics 02:22:22 inner flame explosion too powerful to burn things... it should straight delete trees! 02:22:28 <|amethyst> !send PleasingFungus tetrahedral numbers 02:22:28 Sending tetrahedral numbers to PleasingFungus. 02:22:31 gammafunk is beem 02:22:32 :) 02:23:26 man, I still want to write that lua to test it for myself though 02:23:26 I should 02:23:54 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 02:31:53 I wonder if there's even a simple way to detect which server is running webtiles-changes 02:32:07 looking at the lobby messaging, it's only a little different, so supporting it would be easy 02:38:24 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-38-ga776ef0: Document raw_spell_fail() 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a776ef0264b3 02:42:25 -!- Mandevil_ has left ##crawl-dev 02:47:05 can kramell be made to parrot chei's commit announcements? 02:52:05 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:53:59 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-38-ga776ef0 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:01:25 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 03:01:26 The build has errored. 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More {vampiric} than any other weapon, it heals you for the full damage (healing still triggers on 3/5 hits like a regular vampiric weapon). 03:20:44 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:20:59 damnation (the crossbow) still has rF++ rC-. should it 03:21:19 it's associated with gehenna 03:21:21 in the description 03:21:24 forged in the fires of... 03:21:29 wtf is autotheism 03:21:42 however, we already have another rf++ rc- weapon, so i wouldn't mind if that was removed 03:22:50 Stable (0.18) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-b1-23-gf76aad1 03:24:39 -!- omarax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:24:58 -!- } has quit [] 03:26:35 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: Reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold, BYE] 03:26:41 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0.2/20160407164938]] 03:27:02 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:27:31 -!- bgiannan has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 03:28:39 chequers: you believe in yourself? 03:28:42 :D 03:28:50 hah, yup 03:28:52 -!- TZer0_ is now known as TZer0 03:28:56 !messages 03:28:56 No messages for TZer0. 03:29:23 -!- filthy has quit [Quit: please don't look for me] 03:35:41 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-38-ga776ef0 (34) 03:38:05 -!- Zibudo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:41:28 -!- GauHelldragon2 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:43:55 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 03:44:20 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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12:50:40 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.18] * 0.18-b1-25-gea6fe36: Final changelog update for 0.18 10(23 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ea6fe361db4a 12:51:26 ^ yes 12:51:27 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:51:40 you should double-check the windows build for me 12:51:49 as a favor, to me, your good friend, the pleasing fungus. 12:51:50 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:30 -!- Gamefreak_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:54:54 PleasingFungus: you should cross compile it! 12:55:01 (not sure if mingw works on os x though) 12:55:22 yeah it apparently does 12:55:34 i'm going through the release guide 12:55:55 sanity checking is step 4, whereas producing cross-platform builds is step 7. 12:56:01 do you want me to skip ahead THREE steps??? 12:56:06 yeah, the only thing is you have to install the mingw cross-compilers 12:56:16 which won't be in said guide, not sure where os x people get it from 12:56:35 I mean maybe they have to visit the Tomb of Steve Jobs and prey to his spirit or something??? 12:56:53 but I am seeing stuff about using mingw on os x 12:56:55 i am prey to the spirit of steve jobs 12:57:02 *pray 12:57:07 no 12:57:09 definitely prey 12:57:53 manual: "food is extremely important." 12:57:58 why are we lying to the players.... 12:58:13 i was just about to say, has anyone been through the manual/tutorials for release yeah 12:58:51 I remember last time that didn't happen until 0.17.1 or something 12:58:53 i normally try to but i didn't realise actual release was so soon 12:59:15 and haven't a ton of time recently 12:59:23 PleasingFungus: there's also an even more egregious lie: "Crawl is a fun game..." 12:59:31 Such a falsehood that I put it in my twitch bio 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:57 i'm reading through the manual now 13:01:02 skimming 13:01:03 always enjoyable 13:01:06 haha 13:01:31 Try to avoid drinking poisonous potions!\ 13:01:38 Oh, and maybe we should test the tutorial again 13:01:43 no matter how many times i read it there's always something new and surprising that's 3 releases out-of-date 13:01:50 gammafunk: i said that! 13:01:54 ah 13:01:58 and gammafunk just volunteered! 13:02:02 but you broke it last time! 13:02:07 it was a good bug, too 13:02:12 yeah I'll go test it right quick 13:02:27 what did i do? i think i have broken the tutorials numerous times 13:02:52 Put a statue where a monster was supposed to be, and making it impossible to finish the tutorial? 13:02:56 haha 13:02:57 usually it's breaking the messaging for tiles because getting all the syntax right is impossible 13:02:59 something like that due to a base SUBST change 13:03:01 oh haha, that is much better 13:03:05 yeah i do recall that now 13:03:06 sounds like an extremely goodbug 13:03:21 s/base/bad/ 13:03:40 re: manual, i think the status appendix could be removed now! since that stuff is all properly in the lookup data 13:03:48 that's some good -loc for someone 13:04:03 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 13:04:06 oh, i thought you already had 13:05:08 wow, i totally forgot that staves reduced the power of their crosstrained school 13:05:10 hmm, doesn't look like it 13:05:11 er, antitrained 13:06:11 i think i had been sort of meaning to remove that at one point, also for rings of ice/fire 13:06:33 not sure if there was a reason why i didn't or if i just forgot 13:06:45 v0v 13:08:01 Many of the more powerful spells carry disadvantages or risks; you should read the spell description (obtained by reading the spellbook in which you found the spell) before casting anything. 13:08:06 this is a really weird line 13:08:37 probably thinking of things like ozo's refridge? 13:08:45 i assumed it was e.g. haunt 13:08:50 yeah and xxx 13:08:56 or, ofc, cbl 13:08:57 but haunt's is no longer a thing 13:08:59 ya 13:09:06 also the advice to look at the spellbook 13:09:14 rather than just looking at the description through I 13:09:31 and also the implicit assumption that you don't need to look at the description for less powerful spells 13:09:33 it's all so odd 13:09:48 Well it could be generalized to not mention 'powerful' 13:09:58 but it is good advice to read the spell desc before casting/using 13:10:03 does fedhas corpse sacrifice still work through (p) 13:10:09 yes 13:10:12 i believe so 13:10:27 is there another way it could work aside from autosacrifice? 13:10:38 I think that's like the last legit use of p, even 13:10:57 people have been talking about moving it into the a-menu 13:11:00 but ofc that's more of a pain 13:11:55 also, p is still used for altars, technically 13:12:26 At an altar, you can read a description of that god's general attitude by pressing 'p'. You will be asked afterward if you really want to attend this circle. 13:12:32 what, is crawl about wiccans??? 13:12:39 who WROTE this 13:13:16 i think > was suggested for altars 13:13:22 yes 13:13:25 hence 'technically' 13:13:31 fedhas is the last legit problem 13:14:02 and corpse sacrifice could just be an ability for the cases where you care about when the toadstools are generated, and happen automatically otherwise maybe 13:14:09 oh I should probably do this tutorial with the default rc 13:15:39 Wow, "You're doing great!" for moving 7 squares E, now maybe it's overinflating my confidence here 13:16:21 MarvinPA: the issue was wrt leaving levels 13:16:44 well, a few issues i think 13:17:04 like, you can have corpse decay trigger mushrooms automatically when a corpse would have rotted away otherwise, but if you generally want piety sooner than later (plausible), you'd be using the ability all the time 13:17:47 and obviously you won't be tracking corpse rot while offlevel, so do you automatically toadstoolify corpses when leaving a level? is that going to be overly annoying for people who are stairdancing? 13:18:05 i had a branch somewhere for some version of this 13:18:16 wow it makes you choose between a wyvern and an ooze 13:18:24 hmm true 13:18:35 %git fedhas_decay 13:18:35 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.17-a0-383-gd913f81: Make Fedhas appreciate all corpse decay (minmay) 10(1 year, 1 month ago, 4 files, 15+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d913f81aab57 13:18:39 wow, time flies 13:18:46 this version doesn't handle offlevel stuff 13:18:52 I died to the wyvern 13:18:52 probably somehow solveable but yeah, i guess it does require some fiddling with 13:18:58 gammafunk: good call 13:19:25 gammafunk: this dates from before monster threat levels! so the advice at the time was literally "read the flavour description and see which one sounds scarier" 13:19:50 MarvinPA: oh, should it have some kind of prompt in that regard? 13:19:54 !lg * recent killer=ooze 13:19:56 9268. Guntaas the Insei (L2 OpTm), slain by an ooze on D:1 on 2016-05-04 16:54:13, with 8 points after 77 turns and 0:00:22. 13:19:57 I don't know that it said anything to me about which to fight 13:19:58 !lg * recent killer=wyvern 13:19:59 2543. heiberg the Archer (L7 CeHu), slain by a wyvern on D:5 on 2016-05-04 12:05:40, with 952 points after 4831 turns and 0:15:56. 13:20:02 maybe I missed it 13:20:14 i'm sure there should be a message to that effect yeah 13:20:17 telling you to xv them 13:20:29 I'll go back and check if I can defeat this training dummy 13:20:31 compare_monster_desc 13:21:28 !source dat/des/tutorial.txt:206 13:21:28 Can't find dat/des/tutorial.txt. 13:21:31 oops 13:21:35 !source dat/descript/tutorial.txt:206 13:21:35 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/tutorial.txt#l206 13:21:54 interesting how it places three exit stairs 13:22:03 I guess just to show the player that multiple down stairs exist 13:22:07 ohhh 13:22:16 look at where the F is placed in that room 13:22:21 if you move diagonally into the room, you can skip it 13:22:34 i wonder if that's my fault. i remember tweaking that tutorial at some point 13:22:55 ah 13:23:05 I'll go back and verify if I don't die to these stairs 13:23:42 oh weird 13:23:47 my 'e' key isn't working?! 13:23:54 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.18] * 0.18-b1-26-gf763f46: Make a tutorial message less missable (gammafunk) 10(21 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f763f468d7ec 13:23:56 ??? 13:24:07 I'm hitting e and it's not eating chunks 13:24:19 what is it doing? 13:24:22 nothing 13:24:28 I'm using default rc 13:24:39 it won't even prompt for food or give message or anything 13:24:46 PleasingFungus: can you use e in the second tutorial? 13:25:00 i'm doing it right now... 13:25:07 the heck... 13:25:12 I'm deffo loading the default rc 13:25:43 doesn't work in tutorial I either, let me try regular game 13:26:15 hrm, I think there's something weird going on with lua/default rc 13:26:19 since S doesn't work either 13:26:28 I think those are overloaded to call lua 13:26:40 let me try verifying that my build isn't weird 13:27:11 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-39-g8dff1f5 (34) 13:27:36 -!- dpeg_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:41 !seen PleasingFungus 13:27:41 I last saw PleasingFungus at Wed May 4 17:25:00 2016 UTC (2m 41s ago) saying 'i'm doing it right now...' on ##crawl-dev. 13:27:47 !seen dpeg_ 13:27:47 I last saw dpeg_ at Wed May 4 17:27:41 2016 UTC (6s ago) saying '!seen PleasingFungus ' on ##crawl-dev. 13:27:58 * dpeg_ declares PleasingFungus the Master of Commits! 13:28:03 So much good work :-) 13:28:07 ty! :) 13:28:13 I made a commit once... 13:28:13 i try, occasionally 13:28:17 gammafunk: bullshit 13:28:22 !!! 13:28:35 * dpeg_ avoids obvious jokes about commits and suicides. 13:28:35 you *quit* an *elf* once. that's different 13:28:51 new species: Quit Elf (QE) 13:28:53 ah, elfquitting != commiting, got it 13:29:03 hrm, my stable build is really weird 13:29:05 our elf populations are severely endangered 13:29:10 some of my keys just not working, like the lua-related ones 13:29:12 e, S 13:29:16 we must replenish them and allow natural biodiversity to restore itself. 13:29:18 I hope the deepies are safe at least 13:29:24 gammafunk: do you have some modifier key held down? 13:29:29 but autoexplore and tab work 13:29:36 -!- LexAckson__ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:29:42 PleasingFungus: no, my typing etc is normal 13:29:46 hrm 13:29:54 let's try unplugging ye olde keyboard and replugging in I guess 13:29:59 the 'mutations' section of the manual is something else 13:30:08 Although it would doubtless be a nice thing if you could remain genetically pure, there are too many toxic wastes and mutagenic radiations in the Dungeon for that to be possible. 13:30:15 i'm not sure there are any toxic wastes in the dungeon... 13:30:28 i guess... !mut...? 13:30:56 PleasingFungus: can you do me a favor and try crawl with -rc ../settings/init.txt ? 13:31:01 and see if your keys work 13:31:05 namely e and S 13:31:10 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:31:30 yeah with my rc, they work 13:31:40 so did we break the default rc or something?! 13:31:58 that works for me 13:32:11 the -rc version 13:32:13 yeah it's deffo that my rc is fine but settings/init.txt isn't 13:32:17 well huh 13:32:23 the heck could cause this 13:32:32 anyone else can confirm, maybe on Linux? 13:32:44 yeah, i feel like we need a third party here 13:32:49 trying -rc ../settings/init.txt or otherwise the default rc? 13:33:30 this is what happens when you load an rc with errors in it, some keys become disabled 13:33:48 let me try also just removing my default rc and starting crawl with no args 13:33:54 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:34:01 -!- heteroy_ is now known as heteroy 13:34:11 same problem 13:34:51 I should mention this is a webtiles build 13:34:56 if that makes any difference 13:34:59 ah, sorry, i was in local tiles 13:35:02 let me test 13:35:08 rebuild and test 13:35:14 yeah I mean it shouldn't make a difference, but I have no idea what could be happening at this point 13:35:46 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 13:35:47 The build has errored. 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PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 13:36:32 those apt-get travis errors... 13:37:37 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:41:58 Even veteran players will find the Tomb or the Hells exciting 13:42:16 wait, hrm 13:42:20 "exciting" 13:42:23 just remove the word exciting and it's good 13:42:23 how are you doing the tutorial in a webtiles build? 13:42:37 webtiles make console and webtiles avail 13:42:39 I use console 13:42:46 console doesn't work for me in webtiles builds 13:42:46 <|amethyst> webtiles supports tut, it's just that most of the servers don't do it 13:42:47 never has 13:42:57 PleasingFungus: you can try with webtiles, I guess 13:42:59 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:43:00 <|amethyst> what happens when you try? 13:43:02 maybe |amethyst can verify? 13:43:08 |amethyst: e and S don't work 13:43:17 PleasingFungus: I like the usage of "radiation" as a countable noun, by the way 13:43:20 like there's some kind of rc error (yet no error is printed) 13:43:21 <|amethyst> ah 13:43:23 this is with the default rc 13:43:25 <|amethyst> hm 13:43:26 G-Flex: ya, that struck me too 13:43:28 my own rc seems to work fine 13:43:29 |amethyst: http://pastebin.com/JvX5qgse 13:43:31 I'm trying with tiles now 13:43:41 this has been the case for the last two years or so 13:43:42 oh |amethyst was asking about why console doesn't work, sorry 13:43:46 that quote makes it sound like crawl has a completely different setting 13:43:51 <|amethyst> hm, OS X 13:43:52 *work on os X 13:43:55 <|amethyst> no clue about that 13:43:57 haha 13:44:03 but there's another bug at present |amethyst 13:44:10 where my e and S keys don't work 13:44:14 I'm trying tiles now 13:44:35 yeah same problem in tiles 13:44:36 In this case, they also serve as additional motivation: in many situations, the OOD monster can be survived somehow, and the mental bond with the character will then surely grow. 13:44:50 works with my rc, but they keys aren't working with default rc in settings/init.txt 13:44:59 this reads like a translation of an interview with a JRPG designer 13:45:20 <|amethyst> gammafunk: S works for me in webtiles build controlled from console 13:45:28 gah 13:45:40 OOD monsters also help to keep players on their toes by making shallow, or cleared, levels still not trivial. 13:45:43 what in the hell could cause this? 13:46:23 the OOD monster is survived by three brothers and his widow, Barbara 13:46:28 going to reboot in case there's some really weird ubuntu business going on somehow 13:46:46 <|amethyst> gammafunk: e also works for me 13:46:47 PleasingFungus where are you getting these from 13:46:55 the manual! 13:46:56 |amethyst: and that's with settings/init.txt ? 13:47:09 <|amethyst> gammafunk: oh, let me remove my rc and try again 13:47:12 it works for me on cjr's 0.18 webtiles with a blank rc, also why does cjr change your cursor to what i can only assume is jorgrun 13:47:17 I keep forgetting crawl even has a manual 13:47:31 apparently so did everyone else 13:47:35 he is pretty lacking in all of the vital features of a mouse cursor 13:47:48 woah, what did Zibudo do 13:47:53 The legendary water magic of the Merfolk 13:48:12 hahhaa 13:48:18 wrt jorgrun-cursor 13:48:26 changing the cursor is a classic example of Things You Can Do, But... 13:48:39 it was very obnoxious to register with 13:48:49 oh just the mouse cursor, I gotcha 13:48:53 thought you meant the in-game one 13:49:00 !apt ha 13:49:01 Ha: Fighting: -1, Short: 3!, Long: 0, Axes: -1, Maces: -2, Polearms: -3*, Staves: -2, Slings: 4!, Bows: 2, Xbows: -1, Throw: 1!, Armour: 1, Dodge: 1, Stealth: 2, Shields: 1, UC: -2*, Splcast: -3, Conj: -2, Hexes: -1, Charms: 1, Summ: -1, Nec: -2, Tloc: 1, Tmut: -4*, Fire: 0, Ice: 0, Air: 1, Earth: 0, Poison: -1, Inv: 1, Evo: 0, Exp: 1!, HP: -1, MP: 0 13:49:05 the only cursor-related thing I want is better highlighting when I zoom to stuff when viewing the level map 13:49:13 haha, that's funny 13:49:14 huh, didn't remember they had +1 xp apt 13:49:21 "I know I just snapped to a staircase; time to scan the screen to see where it is" 13:49:34 WOW some real anti-kobold racism in this manual 13:49:34 er 13:49:37 Kobolds are small, ugly creatures with few redeeming features. They are not the sort of people you would want to spend much time with, unless you happened to be a Kobold yourself. 13:49:38 did he like nuke the registration db? 13:49:42 my login no longer works 13:49:46 wow 13:49:54 do they also have their own swimming pools 13:49:55 !stat hafi 13:49:58 !stats hafi 13:50:00 Starting stats for HaFi: Str 16 Int 7 Dex 13. Stat gain: d/5 13:50:04 !stats kofi 13:50:05 Starting stats for KoFi: Str 14 Int 6 Dex 15. Stat gain: sd/5 13:50:11 apparently he did 13:50:19 weird mix of base and growths 13:50:42 they end up about the same 13:51:13 <|amethyst> gammafunk: yeah, they seem to work with the default config 13:51:18 ug 13:51:18 <|amethyst> gammafunk: tutorial, not hints, right? 13:51:20 PleasingFungus: time to add the first big removal to the 0.19 todo.....? 13:51:35 |amethyst: it also doesn't work in the main game for me right now 13:51:39 halflings, you mean? 13:51:42 <|amethyst> gammafunk: bad macro? 13:51:51 I have no idea, since I removed the rc 13:51:51 you can't remove kobolds. they are my precious ugly children 13:51:56 either, but i'd pick halflings yeah 13:52:01 hrm, maybe it is loading macros, yeah 13:52:37 if either, halflings because they aren't used as much elsewhere 13:52:51 Zibudo: btw, you seemed to have nuked the user registration db at some point; that's why my logins weren't working last night. I had to reregister my various accounts 13:53:20 gammafunk: yea i thought i mentioned that and you did acknowledge it? 13:53:22 also removing halfings over kobolds seems like the best way to get more accusations of being fantasy hipsters 13:53:26 which is important 13:53:28 ya 13:53:31 halfling distinguishing features: (a) shitty inherent rmut (b) slings 13:53:49 Zibudo: I must have missed it; also the Jorgrun cursor is really hard to use for me 13:53:55 I can't even click on the checkbox to remember login 13:54:04 the jorgrun cursor is a bad idea, Zibudo. 13:54:06 gammafunk: I am writing code so you can turn it on and off 13:54:09 haha 13:54:42 <|amethyst> IMO config option 13:54:42 <|amethyst> tile_cursor = 13:54:45 Zibudo: if you gave him a staff that he pointed with maybe? 13:54:46 <|amethyst> :P 13:55:17 It's just really hard to know where the pointer is, and I can't seem to click that checkbox at all no matter where I move 13:55:35 !apt og 13:55:36 Og: Fighting: 3!, Short: -4*, Long: -3*, Axes: -3*, Maces: 3!, Polearms: 0, Staves: -1, Slings: -3, Bows: -3, Xbows: -3, Throw: 0, Armour: -2, Dodge: -1, Stealth: -1, Shields: -1, UC: -1, Splcast: 1, Conj: -3*, Hexes: -3, Charms: -3, Summ: -3*, Nec: -3*, Tloc: -3*, Tmut: -3, Fire: -3*, Ice: -3*, Air: -3, Earth: -3*, Poison: -3*, Inv: 1, Evo: -2, Exp: 0, HP: 3!, MP: 0 13:55:37 gammafunk: yea i realized last night, but put it off til today 13:55:44 ah, I figured it out 13:56:01 my actual curser is like just to the left of his (I guess right) hand 13:56:06 *cursor 13:56:16 all of these race descriptions are just references to other races 13:56:43 nagas level as fast as merfolk. ogres level 'nearly as quickly' as humans 13:57:02 oh no, haha, the cursor is actually at an empty space to the left of where Jorgrun is staring at 13:57:07 right near his head 13:57:14 is it: the top-left corner 13:57:15 probably upper-left of that tile 13:57:18 yes 13:59:01 <|amethyst> should use the weapon attachment offset 13:59:22 |amethyst: ah, I think what's happened is my macro has those lua function calls saved 13:59:28 <|amethyst> with that we can theoretically figure out where the tile's hand is, right? 13:59:29 and when my rc isn't loaded, those functions aren't defined 13:59:35 <|amethyst> gammafunk: aha 13:59:54 is there any way to make that not happen? 13:59:56 I guess not 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:11 <|amethyst> hm, maybe you can define the macro from lua? 14:00:30 <|amethyst> hopefully without using sendkeys to do it :) 14:00:49 I define them in my rc file currently 14:00:55 <|amethyst> gammafunk: the macros? 14:00:56 yes 14:00:56 <|amethyst> hm 14:01:08 <|amethyst> oh, but they still get saved into the macro file, of course... 14:01:29 <|amethyst> not sure if there's a way to say "define this macro just for this session" but there maybe should be 14:01:38 <|amethyst> BTW, a problem with the autofight delay stuff: 14:01:58 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:02:04 <|amethyst> it doesn't work if it's being called from a macro, which was intentional (don't remember exactly why) 14:03:04 <|amethyst> but that means if you use the recommended approach of macroing whatever key to ===hit_closest or ===hit_closest_nomove, it wouldn't work 14:03:45 <|amethyst> you have to instead use bindkey to CMD_AUTOFIGHT or CMD_AUTOFIGHT_NOMOVE 14:04:14 <|amethyst> the macro thing was I guess so you can still have a macro that includes an autofight command 14:06:32 If you've entered wizard mode, then you can change the zapping range of a wand by inscribing it with 'range:number' (e.g., 'range:50'). This only works for wands zapped by the player. 14:06:34 wtf 14:08:17 i'm going to delete that, because: 14:08:19 why 14:08:41 I survived the *difficult fight* 14:09:26 %git ec56a205 14:09:26 07Matthew_Cline02 * 0.6.0-a0-1977-gec56a20: Wizard inscription 'range:' for wands 10(7 years ago, 2 files, 18+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ec56a2051c15 14:09:30 gammafunk: haha 14:09:53 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:10:05 i've always wondered if there was literally any use at all for that feature 14:10:11 maybe if . didn't exist? 14:10:25 or, like, if some wands had less than full-LOS range 14:10:34 like the comment on the wand_range function implies was once intended 14:10:43 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:10:46 <|amethyst> could be interesting with lightning bolt I guess 14:11:13 <|amethyst> range:100, zap it in a small enclosed space, see how the "never triple-zap" code responds :) 14:11:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-40-g21a0e93: Final changelog update for 0.18 10(81 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/21a0e93b4ca8 14:11:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-41-g5fc76d1: Remove support for wizmode wand range tweaking 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5fc76d110ad7 14:11:48 heh 14:12:06 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:12:40 did that tutorial fix from earlier go into master? i only saw the 0.18 commit 14:13:32 hrm 14:13:41 i think i forgot to cherry-pick it 14:13:43 will do so in a sec 14:14:04 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.18] * 0.18-b1-27-gaae1b44: Remove support for wizmode wand range tweaking 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/aae1b44a9839 14:14:04 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.18] * 0.18-b1-28-g21923cb: Manual updates for 0.18 10(49 seconds ago, 1 file, 56+ 282-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/21923cb01119 14:14:18 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-42-g6c9e60b: Manual updates for 0.18 10(63 seconds ago, 1 file, 56+ 282-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6c9e60b01de3 14:14:18 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-43-gc85460c: Make a tutorial message less missable (gammafunk) 10(51 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c85460c5c175 14:14:38 Congratulations, you're a real wizard now! 14:15:43 gonna hold off a few minutes on making the tag, just in case someone wants to critique my amazing manual tweaks 14:15:59 !apt ho 14:16:00 HO: Fighting: 2, Short: 0, Long: 1, Axes: 3!, Maces: 1, Polearms: 1, Staves: -1, Slings: -1, Bows: -1, Xbows: -1, Throw: -1, Armour: 1, Dodge: -2, Stealth: -1, Shields: 1, UC: 1!, Splcast: -3, Conj: 0, Hexes: 0, Charms: -1, Summ: 0, Nec: 0, Tloc: -2, Tmut: -3, Fire: 1, Ice: -1, Air: -2, Earth: 0, Poison: -1, Inv: 3!, Evo: 0, Exp: 0, HP: 1, MP: 0 14:16:29 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: you did those in the wiki first, right? 14:16:34 yes 14:16:37 hm, i forgot the word 'be' 14:16:49 <|amethyst> good, just making sure we didn't need to reverse the polarity or some shit 14:17:04 every time i sync the manual, i have to manually edit util/unrest.pl 14:17:21 I guess the only really problem is how short the last tutorial is, but I can see how it'd be more complicated to extend 14:17:24 heh, can't fix my typo because marvinpa has the manual locked... 14:17:32 would have to give the player piety and show them other abilities etc 14:17:36 rip 14:17:49 <|amethyst> maybe if we had some kind of distributed system 14:17:51 but I didn't see any other glaring issues 14:17:55 <|amethyst> with conflict resolution 14:17:59 <|amethyst> we could use that for our manual 14:18:11 i spotted a couple more things (str/dex both saying they "increase weapon effectiveness", can split that into damage/accuracy now) 14:18:14 |amethyst: I don't think such a system exists... 14:18:24 what's the typo, i can fix that while i'm at it 14:18:51 oh 14:19:02 PleasingFungus: don't tag quite yet, I do need to update the debian dir 14:19:08 would be really good to do that before the tag 14:19:17 ok 14:19:43 MarvinPA: "tend to more agile and weaker" 14:19:51 should have a "be" in there 14:20:19 (a mibe, maybe?) 14:20:51 Also, technically you should try step 7 before pushing the tag 14:21:28 aha, there's also a claim that appendix 5 still exists 14:21:57 ah, i vaguely thought there was, but it didn't show up when i searched for 'appendix' 14:22:41 ah, weird ("a full list with explanations is given in Appendix `5. List of Enchantments`_.") 14:22:47 hm 14:22:49 maybe i'm blind 14:23:13 <|amethyst> maybe you're case-sensitive? 14:23:48 i don't even see case! 14:23:57 case-blind 14:24:03 <|amethyst> some of my best friends are uppercase! 14:24:38 oh did we never actually do 0.17.1? 14:24:52 i think we did but didn't do 0.17.2? i could be wrong 14:25:06 I must not have updated the trunk one, I see 14:25:11 <|amethyst> we did 0.17.1 but not .2, which we should probably do now 14:25:31 <|amethyst> there are at least a few crash fixes in 0.17 waiting for release 14:25:36 "the magical power to turn invisible granted by a ring" 14:27:01 hrm, it looks like setting up mingw on os x would be a massive pain in the tukhus 14:27:34 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 14:27:54 |amethyst: yeah I held off from doing it because we need to have geekosaur make the os x build (and then I have to do the debs) 14:28:12 probably good if we just do it at some point though 14:29:24 <|amethyst> well, someone has to make the 0.18 builds anyway 14:29:46 <|amethyst> probably easier to do two in a row than to do one, then another later 14:30:10 <|amethyst> which is at least part of the reason we usually release 0.X.last at the same time as 0.X+1.0 14:30:56 that's true, but I think geekosaur had his hands full last time just getting them to work 14:31:17 had to do a number of builds before they even worked properly without scary warnings iirc 14:31:42 <|amethyst> I would say that "hopefully that was only necessary once" 14:31:56 Windows/debs are ok though, so we could just do those and wait for os x 14:31:57 <|amethyst> but who knows how Apple has changed the toolchain since then 14:32:10 speaking of this, how are we even making previous stable releases available? 14:32:28 builds of those, I mean 14:32:42 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:32:43 the download page is always current stable 14:32:53 <|amethyst> there's SF and there's http://crawl.develz.org/release/ 14:33:11 <|amethyst> I think the download page used to have older versions, but that was simplified away 14:33:22 <|amethyst> would be nice if it at least linked to the /release/ directory 14:33:47 <|amethyst> also, on http://crawl.develz.org/download.htm I see broken images for "Get it on Google Play" 14:34:44 %git 0.17.2 14:34:44 Could not find commit 0.17.2 (git returned 128) 14:34:54 ok so it was never tagged 14:34:56 <|amethyst> it was got 14:34:57 <|amethyst> no 14:34:58 <|amethyst> t 14:35:02 <|amethyst> %git stone_soup-0.17 14:35:03 07MarvinPA02 {|amethyst} * 0.17.1-3-g152610e: Don't allow Control Undead or Simulacrum under sacrifice love (#10117) 10(5 months ago, 1 file, 14+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/152610e6aa16 14:35:11 <|amethyst> %git stone_soup-0.17^ 14:35:11 07|amethyst02 {gammafunk} * 0.17.1-2-g5865329: Allow jellies to escape nets (#10187) 10(5 months ago, 2 files, 4+ 16-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/586532902eac 14:35:12 <|amethyst> %git stone_soup-0.17^^ 14:35:13 07|amethyst02 * 0.17.1-1-g73c8601: Revert another double-zap cherry-pick. 10(5 months ago, 2 files, 94+ 74-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/73c86016d2ef 14:35:20 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.18] * 0.18-b1-29-g7fd734d: Update the debian changelog for 0.18 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 12+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7fd734d3f5d8 14:35:36 <|amethyst> I think there was a report about a crash fixed by 0.17.1-1-g73c8601 14:36:44 03gammafunk02 07* 0.19-a0-44-gea17314: Update the debian changelog for 0.18 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 12+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ea1731463632 14:37:24 <|amethyst> 10382 maybe 14:37:52 PleasingFungus: ok the debian stuff I wanted is done 14:38:07 I guess there's no harm in tagging 0.17.2? 14:38:46 and yeah we need a way to link to old releases from the download page 14:38:53 something not super prominent but not buried 14:39:13 I don't know that the releases url is link anywhere 14:39:27 directly, that is, not counting the download urls we do link to 14:39:39 i updated the manual some more, can someone make rest/push it? 14:39:49 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:40:13 -!- Vizer has quit [Client Quit] 14:43:22 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:44:37 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:45:26 <|amethyst> gammafunk: IMO a section "Older versions" in the table below "Source" 14:45:34 <|amethyst> gammafunk: (or above) 14:45:49 <|amethyst> gammafunk: with a link to the releases page and that's all 14:47:31 that would work, yeah 14:47:59 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:48:14 is there any reason why we couldn't have the manual in markdown and have people use pandoc to convert to rst if that format is still needed? 14:48:39 and then we wouldn't need to have the manual on the wiki, since people can edit pretty easilly right on github if they want 14:48:58 not sure how good the rst -> markdown conversion in pandoc is though 14:49:08 nor how good the reverse is 14:50:16 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:50:21 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 14:50:54 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:51:27 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-45-g2c295ea: Further manual updates (MarvinPA) 10(43 seconds ago, 1 file, 11+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2c295ea56146 14:51:47 cheers 14:52:09 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.18] * 0.18-b1-30-gbfef935: Further manual updates (MarvinPA) 10(85 seconds ago, 1 file, 11+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bfef9350a2e2 14:52:33 gammafunk: are we not cherry-picking anything into 0.17 past november '15? (that's when the last commit in there is from) 14:53:07 PleasingFungus: yeah I mean we could 14:53:16 but then it has to be tested... 14:53:22 [04 18:31] had to do a number of builds before they even worked properly without scary warnings iirc 14:53:34 no, took several attempts to figure out signing issues 14:53:41 that's resolved 14:53:54 yeah, that's what I was trying to say (always ignore gammafunk of the past imo) 14:53:56 <|amethyst> assuming Apple hasn't changed anything yet :) 14:54:04 they haven't 14:54:09 geekosaur: are you ok with doing builds for 0.17.2 as well? 14:54:16 (I'm regularly doing signed builds for $employer now) 14:54:18 we don't have the release tagged yet, but if we did, we'd need them 14:54:20 geekosaur: remember when my computer got somehow 'poisoned' by the bad release you gave me initially, and then your later ones wouldn't work for me? 14:54:25 yeh 14:54:26 Good Times 14:54:41 Poisining a fungus *is* quite a cheevo 14:54:48 *Poisoning 14:54:51 -!- docnvk has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 14:55:19 anyway, yes, if I can do the one then I can do the other just as easily 14:55:21 it's easy, these days! 14:55:34 but if people want to cherry-pick for 0.17.2 that's fine, it's ust some very basic tests need to be done to ensure that the release actually works 14:55:55 we didn;t do that last release but I think with 0.16 I also did a point release for 0.15 bugfixes within a week or so? 14:56:18 yes, we did what |amethyst said for 0.16, doing the point release along with new stable release 14:56:32 and it's good to do, I agree, just more work for things that aren't automated 14:56:36 in any case the build part is automated, and the signing part will be by the time I get done with this release :) 14:56:37 (like all of our builds) 14:57:20 nap.kin was going to get windows builds for release going on cdo with instructions, not sure where he is on that 14:57:27 debian builds take a long time, unfortunately 14:58:13 could still be surprises if something isn't building right on 10.7 --- I do not regularly do such builds, and only occasionally do 10.11 builds --- but I'm not expecting much trouble unless a c++14-ism leaked in 15:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:00:11 let me try this pandoc to make rst into markdown and put it up so people can see if there's a problem 15:00:23 pandoc <3 15:00:30 oh I can make a branch 15:01:38 how do I fetch the rst again? 15:01:44 oh I can pandoc from the url, nm 15:04:03 -!- lnt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:04:57 03|amethyst02 {PleasingFungus} 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17.1-4-g423dff4: Don't crash when Fedhasites kill with AUTOMATIC_HIT spells. 10(5 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/423dff437207 15:04:57 03wheals02 {PleasingFungus} 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17.1-5-gdd79a67: Don't crash when trying to affect a wall on the level border. 10(4 months ago, 1 file, 9+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dd79a67654b6 15:04:57 03|amethyst02 {PleasingFungus} 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17.1-6-g43d3b2a: Don't badly aim rod of lightning/clouds southeast. 10(4 months ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/43d3b2a5d9e9 15:04:57 03|amethyst02 {PleasingFungus} 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17.1-7-g7bfd1ee: Stop shotgun/tbolt targetting rays at solid features. 10(4 months ago, 1 file, 9+ 16-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7bfd1ee77a5d 15:04:57 03|amethyst02 {PleasingFungus} 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17.1-8-gfd5ec84: Properly round rays with negative coordinates. 10(4 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fd5ec846215f 15:04:57 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17.1-9-g81d2447: Fix blinkbolt reflection 10(4 months ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/81d2447b7f74 15:04:57 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17.1-10-g459286f: Fix a very obscure Imprison/Tomb crash (10248) 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 18+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/459286f30927 15:04:57 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17.1-11-ga03b9a5: Possibly? fix a force lance crash 10(10 weeks ago, 3 files, 16+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a03b9a5b1bf5 15:04:57 03|amethyst02 {PleasingFungus} 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17.1-12-ga9e5a35: Don't crash when encountering a zero-byte timestamp file. 10(7 weeks ago, 1 file, 16+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a9e5a351690a 15:04:57 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17.1-13-g87d126b: Fix another rare Imprison crash 10(6 weeks ago, 1 file, 8+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/87d126b28279 15:04:57 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.17] * 0.17.1-14-g21b64f0: Fix a hiscores crash (10340) 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/21b64f0e3517 15:05:27 -!- Torax_ is now known as Tiltorax 15:05:45 i never realized vampire bats actually qualified as undead 15:05:50 haha 15:06:21 New branch created: mdmanual (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/mdmanual 15:06:21 03gammafunk02 07[mdmanual] * 0.19-a0-46-g1231c18: Convert the crawl manual to markdown from reSt 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 3715+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1231c1850bb0 15:06:34 well, i don't usually try to use a spell on them that doesn't affect undead =p 15:06:43 or conversely, that only affects undead 15:06:53 gammafunk: thank you!!! 15:07:00 i've wanted to destroy the wiki manual for-ever 15:07:02 er 15:07:07 I done goofed, sorry 15:07:10 noo 15:07:18 it's html 15:07:21 let me try that again 15:08:07 oh it's not liking the fetching 15:08:54 wow, so how does our makefile do this 15:09:17 never ask that question, unless you want to cry >.> 15:09:26 omg, undoku.sed!!!!! 15:09:29 I'm literally dead 15:10:56 don't forget unrest.pl 15:12:01 03gammafunk02 07[mdmanual] * 0.19-a0-46-gcdbfacc: Convert the crawl manual to markdown from reSt 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 3401+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cdbfacc686d9 15:12:35 Ok, if people could look over https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/cdbfacc686d945dae7a0c744314700ad06928644/crawl-ref/docs/crawl_manual.md 15:13:04 I guess what I need to do is then convert this to txt, don't I 15:13:28 I'm seeing some weird stuff in the markdown though 15:14:17 good mailto links make from "@w9" 15:14:34 *made 15:15:31 all the lines starting with ": " are very odd 15:15:44 section G is completely boned 15:15:54 particularly the first part 15:16:11 also, this isn't related to your version if it, but what the hell is ax-crawl 15:16:12 -!- lnt has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:16:28 Console text roguelike game based in Dungeon Crawl 4.0.0 beta 23, but with lots of enhacements, interface changes, managment of savegames, more items, more customizable, multilanguaje, etc 15:17:06 I see that we will probably need a nice way to go from md to txt 15:17:14 I guess hopefully one that doesn't require pandoc? 15:18:32 we could require that tool for making the manual, but that's probably being mean to windows people 15:18:40 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:18:50 so it looks like this will require both some cleanup of the conversion and a way to convert the md 15:18:54 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 15:18:58 latter shouldn't be too hard, I hope 15:19:02 anyway, i pushed a 0.17.2 tag 15:19:26 i can push the 0.18.0 tag, but it'd be nice if someone could do the cross-compilation 15:19:28 since it's a pita on os x 15:20:24 I can test it really quick 15:20:33 the actual compilation is done afterwards, but yeah good to test 15:20:39 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:20:50 glad to see that os x still makes plenty of things inconvenient =p 15:21:28 i'd either have to mess around with some weird scripts taken from github, or install homebrew and then mess with some *other* weird github scripts 15:21:34 as far as i can tell 15:21:37 I can't test the os x compilation 15:21:49 but do you test the os x package/zip thingies, PF? 15:22:05 I actually don't know what targets geekosaur uses 15:22:22 I use those 15:22:25 you have my build script now 15:22:29 yeah, ok 15:22:45 -!- Dalwyn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:23:13 I *do* have to unzip the result in order to sign them... but I do that on a separate machine because 10.8 can't sign packages for 10.10+ 15:23:27 (so it's faster to transfer the zips and unzip on the signing machine) 15:23:53 !tell svendre i have to work tonight and tomorrow aswell, ill be on on friday! 15:23:53 vible: OK, I'll let svendre know. 15:24:54 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:24:59 perhaps testing unsigned os packages isn't all that helpful, anyhow 15:25:10 but I'm making the windows zips and will test in wine when they're done 15:25:33 *os x packages 15:26:12 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:26:25 our guide still has to enable LTO for windows but I bet that's not working on anyone's system 15:26:36 still fails to compile at mine during the contribs 15:29:48 -!- Demiskeleton has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:32:54 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:38:22 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 15:39:19 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 15:41:29 -!- fazisi_ is now known as fazisi 15:41:51 -!- tollymain has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 15:42:04 -!- Doesnty has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:42:52 -!- bsdbeard is now known as } 15:42:58 -!- } is now known as bsdbeard 15:45:30 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:46:27 -!- spooncolony has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:46:27 PleasingFungus: having fun with the game philosophy? :) 15:46:33 Feel free to add, edit, remove! 15:46:41 -!- Leszczynek has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 15:47:04 haha 15:47:17 trying to mess around with the game philosophy is wayyy more of an undertaking than i'm up to right now 15:47:28 maybe after the release, and after gammafunk gets it into the repo 15:47:34 but probably not! 15:47:38 :PO 15:47:41 *:P 15:55:12 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:56:52 -!- GauHelldragon2 is now known as GauHelldragon 15:58:40 -!- Tedronai has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 15:59:12 -!- ahpla has quit [Quit: blah] 16:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:08:10 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 16:09:50 so you guys know how if you would starve to death but have food in your inv, it eats that instead? FR when you would die ddoor gets cast for you 16:09:56 seems balanced 16:10:38 lol 16:12:41 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:14:33 Stable (0.17) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.17.2-0-g21b64f0 16:15:38 ddoor actually prevents starvation deaths 16:18:08 i thought mpa removed that 16:18:23 oh, no, nvm 16:18:28 i was thinking of paralysis 16:18:33 or something 16:18:36 <|amethyst> yeah 16:18:46 <|amethyst> %git 5661db0b 16:18:47 07MarvinPA02 * 0.18-a0-1712-g5661db0: Allow passing out due to hunger under DDoor 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5661db0bc70a 16:18:55 <|amethyst> ddoor used to prevent fainting too, not it just prevents dying 16:20:59 hm. should the 0.18.0 tag have a release name in it? 16:21:11 i'm trying to figure out how to get the message for the 0.17.0 tag 16:21:32 ok, windows install built, let me test it 16:21:55 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:22:02 git show 0.17.0 16:22:40 -!- Gamefreak has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:23:16 ah ha 16:23:23 I expected it to be something in git tag 16:23:25 ty! 16:23:31 git show shows everything, man. it's great 16:24:07 i had no idea 16:24:33 -!- spriseris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:26:33 git show why_do_people_think_cheibriados_is_good 16:26:46 windows tiles works ok, I need to try console in the vm 16:26:52 since I guess console doesn't work through wine 16:27:09 funny thing I noticed: the new logo slightly covers up the loading messages in fullscreen tiles 16:29:54 <|amethyst> "One Tenth Inspiration"? 16:30:06 ? 16:30:15 <|amethyst> oh, it was "one percent" 16:30:25 <|amethyst> and I guess it was about "genius", not "invention" 16:30:26 <|amethyst> never mind 16:32:01 ten percent luck, twenty percent skill / Fifteen percent concentrated power of will 16:32:52 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0.2/20160407164938]] 16:33:12 -!- Diabl0658 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:33:48 Can any win people try this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/o6fyqyjouv4kmcq/stone_soup-0.18.0-win32-installer.exe?dl=0 16:34:15 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:36:17 <|amethyst> oh, what is that song called? 16:37:52 !tell PleasingFungus I just tested windows build tiles/console in windows 10 vm, and they work, so you're good 16:37:53 gammafunk: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 16:39:23 There's still that weird issue on actual windows where the tiles are mostly white blocks 16:39:32 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:39:38 seems to happen only in my VMs, but I'm not sure why 16:41:05 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:41:54 <|amethyst> video RAM? 16:42:01 <|amethyst> as in, not enough of it 16:43:15 hrm 16:43:17 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:43:29 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 16:43:30 The build has errored. (master - 5fc76d1 #5395 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/127864112 16:43:30 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 16:43:57 mine is set to 128 mb 16:44:26 with 3d/2d accel enabled 16:44:50 this was an issue also when I ran win8 16:44:53 <|amethyst> hm 16:45:09 that was a 32-bit vm, this one is a 64-bit one, if that somehow matters 16:47:30 https://www.reddit.com/r/roguelikes/comments/3h6qpa/dcss_and_windows_10/ 16:47:39 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 16:47:48 maybe I can do a driver update in windows 16:50:04 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:53:27 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 16:53:56 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:54:58 !lg * newocs ikiller~~_statue s=ikiller% 16:55:00 1062 games for * (newocs ikiller~~_statue): 889x an ice statue (83.71%), 85x an obsidian statue (8.00%), 31x an orange crystal statue (2.92%), 20x a conjurer statue (1.88%), 10x a charred statue (0.94%), 8x an archer statue (0.75%), 7x a frost-covered statue (0.66%), 6x a firespitter statue (0.56%), 2x a lasher statue (0.19%), 2x a lunar statue (0.19%), 2x the Statue of Wucad Mu (0.19%) 16:55:30 !lg * newocs br=D ikiller~~_statue s=ikiller% 16:55:35 277 games for * (newocs br=D ikiller~~_statue): 152x an ice statue (54.87%), 78x an obsidian statue (28.16%), 22x an orange crystal statue (7.94%), 10x a charred statue (3.61%), 8x an archer statue (2.89%), 7x a frost-covered statue (2.53%) 16:55:46 !lg * newocs br=depths ikiller~~_statue s=ikiller% 16:55:47 6 games for * (newocs br=depths ikiller~~_statue): 6x an orange crystal statue (100.00%) 16:55:51 hah 16:55:57 that's an accomplishment, at least 16:56:12 !lg * newocs br=vaults ikiller~~_statue s=ikiller% 16:56:14 No games for * (newocs br=vaults ikiller~~_statue). 16:56:18 !lg * newocs br=crypt ikiller~~_statue s=ikiller% 16:56:19 One game for * (newocs br=crypt ikiller~~_statue): an orange crystal statue (100.00%) 16:56:38 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:50 Looks like my win10 will be updating for the next couple hours, maybe after that the graphics glitches will be gone 17:01:07 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:02:43 -!- Ge0ff has quit [] 17:04:09 what are the odds of actually getting the singing sword from the blacksmith vault (or whatever it's actually called)? 17:04:29 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:04:57 -!- Lusting has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:06:26 looks like 1/12 to me 17:06:30 !vault old_forge 17:06:31 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/float.des#l1146 17:07:44 -!- Wax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:07:52 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:09:43 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:14:27 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:15:13 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:16:51 -!- mamgar has quit [Client Quit] 17:19:50 still slogging through the backlog... also happy with Ha-- for 0.19 17:20:24 pet bonus reason for me: kobolds are monsters, halflings aren't 17:20:39 -!- Wolpertinger has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:21:01 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:35 hm. "0.18: Pakellas's Pack-Rats" 17:22:35 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 17:22:46 -!- LexAckson__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:25:07 |amethyst: if you weren't joking, it's "Remember the Name" 17:25:16 <|amethyst> wheals: I was :) 17:25:30 oh 17:25:33 i just got the joke 17:25:34 oh, i get it! i get it! 17:25:42 <|amethyst> otherwise I would have said "what was the name of that song" 17:25:45 i get it (the joke) 17:26:03 also i didn't remember the name of the song, i had to google a snippet to find the lyrics to use 17:26:10 this has not been my best day 17:26:18 but it's gonna be!!! 17:27:56 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 17:27:57 The build has errored. (stone_soup-0.18 - 21923cb #5396 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/127864630 17:27:58 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 17:28:42 wheals: can you test that windows installer? 17:28:51 assuming you're not running Win95 17:29:06 https://www.dropbox.com/s/o6fyqyjouv4kmcq/stone_soup-0.18.0-win32-installer.exe?dl=0 17:29:26 for all I know, wheals is traveling back in windows time to win3.0 17:30:41 %git c18daef7b943e480cbac0655465d8a88529b2ae3 17:30:41 07wheals02 * 0.18-a0-1797-gc18daef: Remove Hive. 10(13 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c18daef7b943 17:30:47 this was already my best day ^ 17:31:01 just a sec 17:31:14 <|amethyst> I remember when 3.1 came out they announced "no more Unrecoverable Application Errors" (what bluescreens were called in 3.0) 17:31:34 <|amethyst> turns out that's just because the screens provided more detail, so now it was usually a "General Protection Fault" instead 17:31:40 hah 17:31:47 I have fond memories of 3.1 17:31:54 I never used 3.0 iirc 17:32:08 I recall a lot of...was it xtree...in dos 17:32:13 <|amethyst> I used 3.0 at school, but my first PC ran 3.1 (and, more often, DOS 5) 17:32:54 see you recall the actual dos version you used 17:33:05 <|amethyst> IBM DOS 5.0 to be more precise 17:33:10 <|amethyst> it was a PS/2 laptop 17:33:21 all I remember is figuring out how to make my prompt have rainbow colored letters and feeling I was pretty pro 17:33:33 <|amethyst> I switched to 4dos as soon as I found it 17:33:43 <|amethyst> tab-completion 17:33:50 bug: this seems to include some malware called "tiles" 17:33:51 nice 17:33:57 sorry about that 17:34:04 wheals: I'm most curious if you get the white tiles thing 17:34:20 no these look ethnically diverse 17:34:21 since even on win10 I'm getting this 17:34:22 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:34:27 well that's good 17:34:33 <|amethyst> speaking of malware called "tiles", how about that imagemagick remote code execution huh 17:34:42 oh no, what's this? 17:35:15 wow, this windows dialogue is like talking with a millenial 17:35:18 <|amethyst> https://imagetragick.com/ 17:36:02 "We'll schedule a restart during the time you don't usually use your device (right now 3:30am tomorrow looks good)." 17:36:10 all it needs is ellipses 17:37:24 nobody here remembers windows 2.11? 17:37:54 last call for objections to "Pakellas's Packrats" 17:38:01 <|amethyst> geekosaur: I was seven, sorry :) 17:38:19 PleasingFungus: what's the packrats a reference to, if I may ask? 17:38:24 I'm not objecting, just wondering 17:38:25 <|amethyst> geekosaur: was still kicking around on my Franklin Ace 500 Apple II clone 17:38:29 only chequers knows 17:38:37 i think that was his, anyway. 17:38:44 <|amethyst> geekosaur: running Franklin DOS, which unlike ProDOS did not have directories 17:38:49 wow, chequers, we've jumped the shark 17:38:55 something about stuffing your inventory with evocables, possibly 17:38:56 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:38:58 I remember that too, yes 17:39:06 <-- too damn old 17:39:29 Was windows 3.0 actually like, a bitmapped screen or whatever? 17:39:48 ? 17:39:52 or was it cursor-addressing 17:39:54 <|amethyst> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_3.0 17:40:09 oh ok 17:40:26 <|amethyst> even 1.0 used graphics 17:40:30 windows 3's claim to fame over windows 2 was actual 32-bit mode and true multitasking. and yes, bitblits were all we had back then 17:40:52 i love that the 'features' section is written in the present tense 17:40:52 <|amethyst> DesqView was the Cool Thing if you wanted multitasking but no graphics 17:40:56 Windows 3.0 succeeds Windows 2.1x and includes a significantly revamped user interface as well as technical improvements... 17:41:04 <|amethyst> s/Desq/DESQ/ 17:41:07 <|amethyst> Deep Elf Squire 17:41:15 squire class gets a horse 17:41:23 <|amethyst> I ran my BBS under desqview 17:41:40 <|amethyst> so I could still do stuff on the computer 17:41:48 Wow, ran a bbs, serious creds 17:42:08 <|amethyst> it wasn't *much* of a BBS 17:42:09 except spriggans get fireflies and centaurs get ... humans? :p 17:42:19 <|amethyst> but I was the only one in town running WWIV 17:42:21 %git stone_soup-0.18 17:42:21 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18.0: Further manual updates (MarvinPA) 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 11+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bfef9350a2e2 17:42:32 %git 0.18.0 17:42:32 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18.0: Further manual updates (MarvinPA) 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 11+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bfef9350a2e2 17:42:35 it's done! 17:42:43 w00 17:42:44 as a certain palestinian once said 17:43:06 a certain palestinian said "woo!"? 17:43:07 anyway, gammafunk, are you good to plop the builds onto cdo? 17:43:12 gammafunk: probably! 17:43:16 * geekosaur was a big desqview user back in the day. and then one of the few non-industry users of DESQview/X 17:43:17 well I haven't make the debs yet 17:43:26 PleasingFungus: I'll do that once the debs are also ready 17:43:30 OK 17:43:32 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:43:32 tyvm! 17:43:35 np 17:43:37 do we still need to mess with sourceforge 17:43:44 I guess technically we do 17:43:57 I don't have access, but others are welcome to once the uploads are made 17:44:02 <|amethyst> I heard of desqview/x, but this was slightly before I knew anything about X and Unix 17:44:05 don't even know if we do os builds there as well 17:44:17 *os x builds 17:44:58 <|amethyst> I think Byte's famous "Is Unix Dead?" article had just come out, or was about to 17:44:59 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 17:45:11 <|amethyst> which was probably the first time I had heard of Unix 17:45:16 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:49:45 PleasingFungus: awesome! 17:50:01 also happy that we have agreed to axe a race -- what a nice chain of events! 17:50:11 someone could still speak out 17:50:23 hush hush 17:50:29 :) 17:50:43 anybody speaking out will be accused of Halflingism and be purged 17:52:09 <|amethyst> we're getting rid of both halflings and kobolds, right? 17:52:17 nooo 17:52:20 not my ugly babies 17:52:55 |amethyst: I only meant Ha... I think Ko have a reasonable niche. You'd axe both? 17:53:18 <|amethyst> probably not really 17:54:44 <|amethyst> maybe merge them into demi-bolds 17:55:39 dpeg_: it'd be nice to have one fewer size for player races, wouldn't it? 17:56:14 minmay: I never looked it from that angle. Are felids in their own size category? 17:56:19 *at it 17:56:24 -!- Dracunos has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:56:40 !lg dpeg Fe 17:56:41 Fe is ambiguous: may be species or class. Use Fe-- (Felid) or --Fe (Fire Elementalist) to disambiguate 17:56:44 !lg dpeg Fe-- 17:56:44 <|amethyst> felids are the same size as spriggans 17:56:45 4. dpeg the Spry (L12 FeVM of Dithmenos), blasted by a water nymph (the raging water) on Shoals:1 on 2015-01-22 20:09:57, with 21708 points after 39834 turns and 1:43:13. 17:56:59 I had no idea I played four of them. 17:57:05 <|amethyst> but don't use equipment so the size doesn't matter as much 17:57:10 yeah 17:57:15 I was thinking "gremlins" except Gr is taken >.> 17:57:16 it's, like, an ev boost 17:57:22 and also it affects nets in 17:57:24 some way 17:57:25 (Ha/Ko merge) 17:57:43 what part of ha do we particularly want to save? 17:57:46 the rmut thing? 17:58:03 <|amethyst> and it doesn't actually affect stealth, but there's another number that's highly correlated with size that does 17:58:03 i feel like that could resurface somewhere else, but no particular reason for it to be on ko 17:58:05 -!- tw12we has joined ##crawl-dev 17:58:10 <|amethyst> Dg 17:58:17 hu 17:58:19 <|amethyst> goes with sustat 17:58:19 how are the chat vibes today? 17:58:30 they're fine, tw12we. and you? 17:58:33 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: humans mutate all the time, though, don't you read comic books? 17:58:41 <|amethyst> HE? 17:58:46 i'm tragically comic illiterate 17:58:46 me too 17:58:57 PleasingFungus: the bad thing about more sizes is that it means another list of weapon handednesses 17:59:02 dang, i look away for like an hour and two genocides have occurred 17:59:19 what was the first one? 17:59:37 amalloy: isn't it wonderful? 17:59:51 minmay: ideally, weapon handedness variation would be good, and not bad 18:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:03 like, whoa, here's this fresh new angle on the game 18:00:12 all this equipment is useful in different context than normal! 18:00:13 PleasingFungus: you can wield a triple crossbow as a kobold, but not a spriggan; you can wield a battleaxe as a human but not a kobold 18:01:15 i'm pretty sure i've held the exact opposite position in the past, but i'd be up for reconsidering the role of weapon size restrictions in 0.19 18:01:26 especially those that don't rhyme with "biant glubs" 18:02:55 I think the list here is still accurate https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=15036 , admittedly triple crossbow is the worst case (it has its own handedness category that no other weapon does) 18:03:30 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:03:40 -!- rarewave has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 18:03:57 kobold gimmicks: good at evo and not a deep dwarf, good at crossbows, carnivorous, small-size weapon restrictions 18:04:56 -!- poisonmushroom has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:04:58 i feel like there's enough there for them to still be interesting without the weapon restrictions, and i'm not sure that the weapon restrictions do make them more interesting 18:05:04 PleasingFungus: I feel like there must be a more flattering description of kobold than "spriggan that trades speed for slightly better melee and the ability to wield a triple crossbow" 18:05:40 they're also not as frail and have pretty different spellcasting apts, iirc 18:05:46 !apt ko 18:05:46 Ko: Fighting: 1, Short: 3!, Long: -2, Axes: -1, Maces: 0, Polearms: -2, Staves: -1, Slings: 2, Bows: -1, Xbows: 2!, Throw: 1!, Armour: -2, Dodge: 2, Stealth: 4, Shields: -2, UC: 0, Splcast: -1, Conj: -1, Hexes: 0, Charms: -2, Summ: 0, Nec: 0, Tloc: 0, Tmut: -1, Fire: 0, Ice: 0, Air: 0, Earth: 0, Poison: 0, Inv: 1, Evo: 2, Exp: 1!, HP: -2, MP: 0 18:05:47 !apt sp 18:05:48 Sp: Fighting: -2*, Short: 1, Long: -2, Axes: -2, Maces: -3*, Polearms: -3*, Staves: -3*, Slings: 2, Bows: 2, Xbows: 0, Throw: 0, Armour: -3*, Dodge: 4!, Stealth: 5!, Shields: -3*, UC: -2*, Splcast: 2, Conj: -3*, Hexes: 2, Charms: 4!, Summ: -2, Nec: -1, Tloc: 4!, Tmut: 3!, Fire: -2, Ice: -2, Air: -1, Earth: -1, Poison: 0, Inv: 0, Evo: 3!, Exp: -1, HP: -3, MP: 1 18:05:55 6-point difference in charms, for example 18:06:15 fr: when monsters with bite attacks bite player kobolds and nagas, they get poisoned 18:06:19 4 points in tmut (are there people who play sptm...?) 18:06:27 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: SpSt 18:06:28 sptm is the most fun sp dude 18:06:32 huh 18:06:33 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: rip 18:06:42 |amethyst: dont forget spee 18:06:44 <|amethyst> !lg . won 18:06:45 3. neil the End of an Era (L27 HOCK of Qazlal), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-03-16 00:05:52, with 1719705 points after 66461 turns and 3:18:10. 18:06:45 <|amethyst> !lg . won 1 18:06:46 1/3. Neil the Sorcerer (L27 SpSt of Kikubaaqudgha), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2011-08-31 02:58:26, with 1298440 points after 120543 turns and 10:19:50. 18:07:13 minmay: what are you talking about? it sounds like you're implying their very flesh is poisonous, but there's nothing in the game that would support that at present... 18:07:34 <|amethyst> casting Ice Form to gain more carrying capacity so I could pick up corpses and stack them together to cast Twisted Resurrection 18:07:43 <|amethyst> while evaporating 18:07:58 <|amethyst> my entire win has been removed 18:07:58 should have just distilled them instead 18:08:08 !remove Ice Form 18:08:09 03minmay * 0.18-a0-2578-g30b8e89: Remove Ice Form 10(in the future, 21 files, 631+ 245-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=30b8e89 18:08:36 that doesn't seem like it should be a net gain in lines 18:08:48 it's very surprising 18:09:02 <|amethyst> save compat 18:09:07 <|amethyst> can be very tricky 18:09:16 clearly give kobolds sharp teeth because they're dogs or something 18:09:36 <|amethyst> I guess our kobolds are the dog kobolds and not the lizard kobolds? 18:09:40 <|amethyst> I can never keep track 18:09:49 2010s: the decade of player races with bite attacks 18:10:01 I think the tiles are dog kobolds 18:10:03 <|amethyst> I would at the very least like to see them (and the whole monster race too) renamed 18:10:13 rename them to halflings 18:10:19 the German word "Kobold" is not linked to either dogs or to lizards, more about PleasingFungus' ugly children... is this some D&D thing we need to eradicate? 18:10:31 <|amethyst> yes 18:10:42 <|amethyst> both dog-like and lizard-like in different versions of D&D 18:10:42 * dpeg_ is in favour. 18:10:44 <|amethyst> also, gnolls 18:10:59 What were they thinking?! 18:11:11 <|amethyst> (to be fair, the name is from Lord Dunsany... 18:11:14 need to remove goblins and giant geckos too. rip D:1 18:11:36 anything that will invalidate the lore of that terrible pikel/sonja hentai that got made somehow (don't google it) 18:12:34 <|amethyst> oh, and "big kobold" 18:12:35 <|amethyst> really? 18:12:37 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:12:49 <|amethyst> that's the best lore we can come up with, "they're a kobold... but bigger!" 18:12:57 isn't it "large kobold"? 18:13:06 @??large kobold 18:13:06 unknown monster: "large kobold" 18:13:06 oh 18:13:07 <|amethyst> at least call them hobkobolds or something 18:13:07 @??big kobold 18:13:07 big kobold (08K) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 24-31 | AC/EV: 3/12 | Dam: 7 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(20) | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 97 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 18:13:20 I always call them "large kobolds" for some reason 18:13:42 gammafunk: wait, there's actually more crawl porn now? I thought it would just be that one picture forever 18:14:04 minmay: man the sonja/pikel hentail is definitely the worst, but yeah there's more than that even 18:14:09 you see a lot of things in tiles chat... 18:14:44 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-a0-45-g2c295ea (34) 18:14:53 it was lizard kobolds in the version of d&d i first learned, so they're lil lizardmen to me 18:15:01 It shouldn't surprise anyone, don't you all remember in the Korean tier listing thread, where someone posted some korean manga about yred? That wasn't particularly bad at least 18:16:15 but not porny at all, was it? 18:16:24 very slightly, maybe 18:16:26 at most 18:16:48 -!- Dracunos has quit [Client Quit] 18:17:31 the solution is pretty clear: Deep Kobold (player and monster species), home free. 18:18:04 haha 18:18:14 dk-- 18:18:48 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:19:07 Deep Djinn or Deep Lava Orcs imo 18:20:05 this is deep 18:20:22 deeper dwarves 18:20:48 I think Crawl needs another slow species... but: removal first! 18:20:53 vs. mountian kobolds? 18:21:34 bring back salamanders 18:21:48 -!- gamefreak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:23:28 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:24:01 til I have advzip installed and it's part of our make process for windows 18:24:11 PleasingFungus: I don't have any idea for a cool slow species, but that's something I'd love to play. 18:24:29 3% zip size saving that took like 5 minutes 18:26:03 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:26:55 remove what? 18:27:02 (outside of lightlis) 18:27:12 -!- fixit_friend has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:27:40 Ok, at http://crawl.develz.org/release/ we have the 0.18.0 source packages, the windows installer, and the windows zips 18:28:10 when I get back a bit later I can start the debs, maybe those and hence the release announce can be done this evening 18:28:30 Lightli: nah, i think we'll stick with that for now 18:28:53 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:29:07 k 18:29:20 -!- fixit_friend has joined ##crawl-dev 18:29:23 gammafunk: \o/ 18:30:09 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:30:12 dpeg_: !glasses 18:30:47 .echo dpeg: $(!glasses) 18:30:47 dpeg: ( •_•)    ( •_•)>⌐■-■    (⌐■_■) 18:30:50 there we go 18:31:35 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:32:44 hi 18:33:00 PleasingFungus: gammafunk: just that evocables take up a lot of inventory space 18:33:16 alliteration > sense 18:33:58 how many hours to 0.18.0 proper? 18:34:03 need to schedule my availability 18:34:20 the tag is done. not sure when everything is gonna be uploaded. 18:34:26 'this evening' was the goal 18:34:33 yeah 0.18.0 is basically 'now' 18:34:39 but the tourney isn't until friday, ofc 18:39:33 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:47:38 yup 18:51:19 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:51:53 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:54:30 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 18:54:31 The build has errored. (stone_soup-0.18 - 7fd734d #5398 : gammafunk): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/127870193 18:54:31 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:03:27 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 19:03:39 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 19:04:05 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:04:24 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Client Quit] 19:04:31 -!- jerkstoresup has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:07:16 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:07:29 -!- filthy has quit [Quit: please don't look for me] 19:12:43 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:12:51 -!- Dracunos_ is now known as Dracunos 19:17:02 Hey gammafunk, could you add cjr to the website, I think it is done, unless you have any more suggestions. 19:17:04 -!- alien3456 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:18:35 ??cjr 19:18:35 cjr[1/1]: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/ Hosted in Montreal by Zibudo (admin@jorgrun.rocks). SSH username jorgrun, password rocks. Currently games are visible on Sequell, but CAO scoring is a work in progress. 19:18:44 ??zibudo 19:18:44 zibudo[1/1]: runs {cjr} 19:19:08 Montreal! Merci beaucoup! 19:20:17 A votre service mon ami 19:21:10 <3 19:21:27 -!- Implojin has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:22:09 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:23:18 -!- lnt has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:23:47 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 19:25:02 -!- jefus has quit [Quit: das reboot] 19:25:26 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:30:32 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 19:31:23 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:31:40 -!- moxian has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:31:58 -!- home has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:33:24 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:34:13 -!- jefus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:35:12 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:38:00 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:38:03 !tell gammafunk: could you add cjr to the website, I think it is done, unless you have any more suggestions. 19:38:03 Sorry Zibudo, I don't know who gammafunk: is. 19:38:06 -!- WorkSight has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 19:38:14 !tell gammafunk could you add cjr to the website, I think it is done, unless you have any more suggestions. 19:38:14 Zibudo: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 19:38:35 Zibudo: don't worry, I'll do that when I update the website for the 0.18 release 19:38:35 gammafunk: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 19:39:15 just a bunch of things that have to be done at this point 19:40:07 alright thanks 19:40:10 besides, cjr must already official since it already has a beem instance running for it 19:40:54 Zibudo: although, that reminds me, it's nice to get an Irc bot running on cjr as well, would need a name and its own irc prefix 19:41:06 so players in ##crawl can see milestone annoucements 19:41:14 and to help with various irc commands 19:41:38 are there any guides for that to set it with the server 19:41:44 ??sizzell 19:41:44 sizzell[1/2]: Like Gretell, except that |amethyst is typing everything himself. Announces games and upgrades on crawl.s-z.org ({CSZO}). Uses "%" for its commands ("%dump" etc), but does not do nick mapping. 19:41:49 ??sizzell[2 19:41:49 sizzell[2/2]: Source at https://github.com/crawl/sizzell 19:41:58 That is the repo 19:42:00 ??bot 19:42:00 bot ~ bots[1/3]: Bots that can be pm'd: announcement bots: Henzell (CAO, !), Gretell (CDO, @), Sizzell (CSZO, %), Lantell (CUE, $), Rotatell (CBRO, ^), Eksell (CXC, |); others: Varmin, Cheibriados (%), and Sequell (! ?? & and others) 19:42:13 those sigils you see there are taken 19:42:31 alright 19:42:34 $version 19:42:34 trunk: 0.19-a0-45-g2c295ea; 0.18: 0.18-b1-22-ge198996; 0.17: 0.17.2; 0.16: 0.16.2-12-gd0ad4c3; 0.15: 0.15.2; 0.14: 0.14.2; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.4 19:42:45 that's one helpful command, show all installed versions on a server 19:42:49 Zibudo: clone the repo. make some updates. I can see if my fork is pushed so you have examples 19:42:53 although there are ways sequell can guess at this 19:43:11 yea i had that repo but forgot about it, i'll check the file out 19:43:12 are there any other useful commands in sizzel? 19:43:18 $help 19:43:23 $rc 19:43:24 http://underhound.eu:81/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-git/gammafunk.rc 19:43:38 heh, sequell handles that 19:44:31 haha, the updated jorgrun pointer 19:44:42 gammafunk: what is it now? 19:44:51 Zibudo will not be detered 19:44:58 dpeg_: go to cjr to see! 19:45:07 assuming you have a graphical browser 19:45:18 I should really leave my 80x24 hell^H^H^H^H living room!?! 19:45:18 let's just say that jorgrun seems to have learned stone arrow 19:45:49 Zibudo: start here. https://github.com/jmbjr/sizzell/commits/cbro 19:45:54 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:46:03 you can see my updates on getting things initially set up 19:47:04 great landing page 19:47:06 Zibudo 19:47:26 Zibudo: that's some unflattering Jorgrun fixation! Thumbs up!! 19:48:11 Jorgrell? 19:48:29 wow that landing page 19:48:33 19:48:34 -!- Zibudo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:48:45 @??jorgrun 19:48:45 Jorgrun (13g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 100-140 | AC/EV: 4/15 | Dam: 20 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(120) | XP: 3204 | Sp: rapid deconstruction, petrify, shatter, dig | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 19:48:49 the prefix has to be g right 19:49:10 -!- Zibudo has joined ##crawl-dev 19:49:32 there are not many sigils left tbh 19:49:59 ~ could work 19:51:10 ??cjr 19:51:11 cjr[1/1]: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/ Hosted in Montreal by Zibudo (admin@jorgrun.rocks). SSH username jorgrun, password rocks. Currently games are visible on Sequell, but CAO scoring is a work in progress. 19:51:21 could use %. 19:51:28 * johnstein ducks 19:51:55 but yea ~ should work I bet 19:52:16 -!- Orphics has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:54:46 𝄞 19:55:59 what when they're used up? double sigils? 19:57:37 *, (, ), -, _, +, =, \ 19:57:57 19:58:34 one without needing shift is best 19:59:47 ...don't all the current ones require shift? 20:00:02 yeah, and this is not something that's going to be used all that frequently 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:23 minmay: and it's a failing! 20:00:39 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 20:00:51 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:02:52 none of the current ones need shift on my keyboard. y'all should try swapping !@#$%^&*() with 1234567890 20:04:14 neerrrrd alert 20:04:40 chequers: do you use a non-standard keyboard layout (Dvorak, Colemak etc.)? 20:04:58 no that's for nerds and i'm DEF not a nerd 20:07:12 well, you are talking on a roguelike IRC channel right now... for some, that's enough to deduce 100% nerditiy 20:07:26 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 20:07:32 doesn't need nerd, just french? 20:07:33 hello 20:07:54 Hi 20:10:20 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Client Quit] 20:12:18 -!- Zibudo has left ##crawl-dev 20:13:02 dpeg_, do you know anything about delay.cc specifically start_delay function? 20:13:34 -!- ZiBuDo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:18:30 Naruni: hell, no :) I am typing a mathematical article and utter something here from time to time :) 20:18:34 -!- techieAgnostic has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:20:21 I have updated sizzel.pl to be specific to my server, how do i run it? 20:20:27 do i just run the perl script 20:25:22 -!- noobcanoe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:27:49 "const delay_queue_item &delay" is this the same as "const delay_queue_item& delay" 20:31:03 Zibudo: yea just run the perl script 20:31:13 and the bot should just APPEAR 20:32:22 Naruni: yes 20:33:06 & and * annotations are (for single declarations) the same on either the type or the name (or indeed in between them) 20:34:22 amalloy, thanks 20:35:11 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:36:47 -!- Implojin has quit [Client Quit] 20:37:12 -!- moxian has joined ##crawl-dev 20:40:40 -!- chewymouse has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:42:39 chequers: you are still working on the tourney page? I got a report by players that the all-players page is weird 20:42:51 http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/all-players.html 20:43:04 which indicates to me that you might still be working on it 20:43:14 oh yeah... the clans are strange aren't they 20:43:21 i assumed it was because some rc files weren't downloaded 20:43:21 yup 20:43:27 let me zero the database and try again 20:44:27 hmm. one guy said he made a change 24 hours ago and his clan name isn't updated. (player slitherrr). I told him I didn't know if the update frequency was still 4 hours or even updating at all yet 20:44:35 change on cbro? 20:44:49 currently the tourney scripts aren't running so that's why clan changes aren't showing up 20:45:22 while we're talking about this, any CAO 0.18 eta? 20:46:13 I haven't heard from r a X for a couple days 20:46:24 I emailed her my public keys for ssh access though 20:47:17 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:48:28 -!- Jorgrell has joined ##crawl-dev 20:48:43 how come there are so many functions dealing with items that only accept an int and then the object is called inside each function? for instance void bla(int slot) { slot = you.inv[slot]; stuff; } instead of void bla(item_def& slot) { stuff; } 20:49:32 -!- Jorgrell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:49:50 -!- Jorgrell has joined ##crawl-dev 20:50:13 : o 20:50:46 =cjr 20:50:46 crawl (L1 @ D:1, T:262) 20:50:48 :) 20:50:52 is it working? 20:51:02 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:51:09 prefix is = 20:51:16 gammafunk: i think i put this in the right place http://webzook.net/bbs/board.php?bo_table=webzook_server 20:51:22 =rc ZiBuDo 20:51:33 hm, i'm not actually sure what commands it supports 20:51:58 i pulled it from sizzell git repo 20:52:44 can a dev or server admin help me edit someones rc file to get me into a good tournament team? 20:53:48 =version 20:53:48 trunk: 0.19-a0-45-g2c295ea; 0.17: 0.17.2; 0.16: not found; 0.15: not found; 0.14: not found; 0.13: not found; 0.12: not found; 0.11: not found; 0.10: not found 20:53:57 hmm 20:55:56 -!- Jorgrell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:56:11 -!- aurelian has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:56:11 -!- Jorgrell has joined ##crawl-dev 20:56:17 =version 20:56:28 trunk: 0.19-a0-45-g2c295ea; 0.18: 0.18-b1-30-gbfef935; 0.17: 0.17.2 20:57:23 tw12we: do you want to play in my team? 20:57:33 I haven't picked a name yet, but i'm quite good 20:58:28 can 0.19 please include lugonu buffs so I can call my clan "I Love Lucy"? 20:59:27 would there be a way i can get more commands for the bot? 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:28 -!- Implojin has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:00:41 =players 21:00:41 crawl (L1 @ D:1, T:262) 21:01:12 modify the .pl script i guess 21:02:27 well does anyone care to be code sugar daddy *winky face* 21:03:19 what else would you want? the server-specific irc bots don't really need to do much 21:03:27 sequell does all the interesting stuff 21:03:57 !locateall * cjr 21:04:00 beem: CJR 0.18-a, L1 HuBe of Trog || johnstein: CJR 0.18-a, L1 MiGl of No God || ZiBuDo: CJR 0.18-a, L1 MiBe of Trog 21:04:25 !hs * cjr 21:04:26 17. Gramm the Conqueror (L27 GrGl of Makhleb), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-04-17 01:09:55, with 1762144 points after 63826 turns and 4:06:13. 21:04:48 there's still time to be the first 15-rune win on cjr 21:04:59 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 21:05:00 The build passed. (stone_soup-0.18 - bfef935 #5401 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/127873926 21:05:00 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 21:05:11 -!- Orphics has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:06:00 -!- home has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:06:22 cheqyers yes i can do it this 21:06:37 chequers 21:07:34 name it `ur worst dps nightmares` 21:10:57 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 21:15:19 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:15:58 johnstein: fixed 21:16:19 zibudo: I've added a couple not commands. remind me and I'll point you to them sometime 21:16:19 ^watch johnstein 21:16:20 No current CBRO game for johnstein. 21:16:25 though &watchlink is smarter for the link 21:16:48 ^watch checks to see if the game is running. but is case sensitive since I'm dumb 21:16:48 No current CBRO game for checks. 21:16:52 here's a content question, is "Spellcasting is for Felids" an ok clan title? 21:16:59 it's referencing a reasonably rude word 21:17:21 I also added a command to return my vps info so I know what my disk usage, ram, and cpu usage is 21:17:38 I want to make it smarter and just alert me when it's past the limits I set 21:17:50 there was also a command to run mapstat 21:18:05 which was cool. but had some troublesome issues that I never worked out 21:18:26 ^stats 21:18:29 ^cpu 21:18:31 ^top 21:18:35 i give up 21:18:58 it's not for Rotatell 21:19:04 it's for a clone in my other channel 21:19:15 oh 21:19:31 I should just add it to Rotatell. I had some paranoid notions on not adding it to Rotatell but that's kinda dumb 21:19:54 if/when I add the limit warnings I think it would be a good addition for the crawling cbro public 21:20:12 mainly to check on server performance rather than pinging me 21:21:34 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:24:23 -!- dpeg_ has quit [Quit: sleep] 21:24:32 -!- jefus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:25:01 chequers: oh, I hadn't seen that forum 21:25:21 I posted to another one that was linked to, but it was a general korean rl forum I think 21:25:32 sadly hongbot has not seen hong 21:25:41 !lg hong 21:25:42 2777. hong the Skirmisher (L1 DsCK of Xom), slain by a hobgoblin (a +0 club) on D:2 (grunt_ministairs_10) on 2016-05-03 10:31:46, with 4 points after 219 turns and 0:00:29. 21:25:53 !lm hong 21:25:55 11805. [2016-05-03 11:04:22] hong the Grappler (L12 DsCK of Xom) reached level 2 of the Orcish Mines on turn 9786. (Orc:2) 21:26:02 doesn't seem it's missed him, at least 21:27:42 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 21:29:41 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 21:32:25 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:35:31 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:36:42 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:43:39 -!- techieAgnostic has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:44:29 question, how do you create runes in wiz mode now? 21:45:26 -!- NotKintak has quit [Read error: No route to host] 21:46:03 hello gammafunk 21:46:11 hi twelwe 21:46:35 pizza for you if you can figure out the answer to my question 21:46:38 i want to help and answer but i don`t know it 21:47:15 can you edit someones rc file and put me in a good team? 21:47:36 it's true I have the power to do that, but I need the right bribe 21:47:53 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:47:55 sex tips? i don`t have any 21:48:25 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 21:48:26 The build has errored. (mdmanual - 1231c18 #5403 : gammafunk): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/127877170 21:48:26 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 21:49:02 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:49:29 i have some vid game ideas if that works as payment 21:51:19 gammafunk: it's just &% 21:51:25 &%slimy rune of zot 21:51:27 oh, I tried that 21:51:42 how, now it works 21:51:45 what did I do wrong before 21:51:52 everything 21:51:53 oh I see 21:51:59 % doesn't allow partial matches? 21:52:03 no 21:52:04 &o does 21:52:06 &%shitty rune of zot 21:52:08 and it used to work from there 21:52:17 and then wheals took it all away from me 21:52:35 PleasingFungus: I did something right once 21:52:44 uhhh 21:53:11 i think there's a big bug in 0.18 21:53:22 potionsused and scrollsused=0 in every milestone 21:53:24 * gammafunk braces himself 21:53:25 and logfile 21:53:31 https://crawl.project357.org/dcss-logfiles-0.18 21:53:51 !lg * 0.18 x=avg(scrollsused) s=start(week) thisyear -graph 21:53:51 Unknown function: start 21:53:59 !lg * 0.18 x=avg(scrollsused) s=week(start) thisyear -graph 21:53:59 No games for * (0.18 thisyear). 21:54:16 !lg * 0.10 21:54:17 243870. kuronoryu14 the Grave Robber (L1 DgNe), slain by a ball python on D:1 (roderic_crop_circles_entry_small) on 2016-05-04 03:34:15, with 20 points after 256 turns and 0:01:11. 21:54:18 !lg * 0.18 21:54:19 No games for * (0.18). 21:54:24 kw 0.18 21:54:27 !kw 0.18 21:54:28 Built-in: 0.18 => cv=0.18 21:54:28 !lg * vlong~~0.18-b1 x=scrollsused 21:54:29 7277. [scrollsused=0] Fhqwhgads the Shield-Bearer (L4 GrFi), blasted by a crimson imp (wand of flame) (kmap: grunt_temple_overflow_lords_of_destruction) on D:4 on 2016-05-05 01:49:21, with 98 points after 1756 turns and 0:02:33. 21:54:33 !lg * vlong~~0.18-b1 scrollsused!=0 21:54:34 weird 21:54:34 No games for * (vlong~~0.18-b1 scrollsused!=0). 21:54:38 !lg * vlong~~0.18-b1 potionsused!=0 21:54:39 No games for * (vlong~~0.18-b1 potionsused!=0). 21:54:39 oh right 0.18 was just tagged 21:54:43 hrm 21:54:47 are betas not 0.18 21:54:49 maybe not 21:54:58 they are 0.18-a 21:55:11 !lg * cv=0.18-a x=avg(scrollsused) month 21:55:12 81528 games for * (cv=0.18-a month): avg(scrollsused)=3 21:55:15 i bet this is related to dacts 21:55:22 well seems some have it 21:55:26 it must be a recent thing 21:55:31 !lg * cv=0.18-a x=avg(scrollsused) week 21:55:32 14384 games for * (cv=0.18-a week): avg(scrollsused)=0.11 21:55:42 !lg * cv=0.18-a x=avg(scrollsused) day 21:55:43 2614 games for * (cv=0.18-a day): avg(scrollsused)=0.08 21:55:46 !lg * cv=0.18-a x=avg(scrollsused) s=week(start) -graph 21:55:47 400905 games for * (cv=0.18-a): https://shalott.org/graphs/65a72da2aee0b96f5acb79cb366e89b6d2004841.html 21:56:03 october 2015 perhaps 21:56:15 or apr 11 21:57:09 !seen wheals 21:57:09 I last saw wheals at Thu May 5 00:51:02 2016 UTC (1h 6m 6s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: Leaving'. 21:57:27 !lg * cv=0.18-a scrollused>0 day s=src 21:57:27 Unknown field: scrollused 21:57:33 !lg * cv=0.18-a scrollsused>0 day s=src 21:57:34 4 games for * (cv=0.18-a scrollsused>0 day): 4x cwz 21:57:47 if (you.action_count.count(p)) 21:57:48 for (int i = 0; i < maxlev; i++) 21:57:48 scrolls_used += you.action_count[p][i]; 21:57:50 from hiscores.cc 21:57:52 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:57:55 that's probably close to the bug 21:57:55 !lg * cv=0.18-a x=vlong cwz 21:57:56 130675. [vlong=0.18-a0-1781-g663d63a] prohare the Poker (L4 TeFi), slain by a gnoll on D:2 on 2016-05-05 01:57:48, with 63 points after 1140 turns and 0:01:39. 21:58:03 cwz doesn't have the bug 21:58:08 and that's its version 21:58:17 they don't update very often 21:58:19 %git 21:58:19 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-45-g2c295ea: Further manual updates (MarvinPA) 10(7 hours ago, 1 file, 11+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2c295ea56146 21:59:04 that would probably be the big action count changeset, surely 21:59:13 is a tag made for the beta? 21:59:31 it's just a branch, isn't it 21:59:31 %git fa5983245acb36c7473c60c9b89095d998ac467b 21:59:31 07argonaut02 {wheals} * 0.18-a0-1746-gfa59832: Count defensive actions. 10(6 months ago, 12 files, 153+ 28-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fa5983245acb 21:59:40 there was a tag for the beta 22:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:04 hm, but this commit *is* on cwz 22:00:06 interesting 22:00:11 !lg * cv=0.18-a scrollsused>0 day s=vlong 22:00:12 4 games for * (cv=0.18-a scrollsused>0 day): 4x 0.18-a0-1781-g663d63a 22:00:18 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:00:22 so that version had scrollsused>0 22:00:57 yeah I'm not sure 22:01:04 it's somewhat close 22:01:10 and still suspicious 22:01:20 but there are no game transfers on cwz 22:01:23 it's a forced update 22:01:50 !lm * cv=0.18-a lg:scrollsused>0 s=vlong 22:02:02 er 22:02:05 1711149 milestones for * (cv=0.18-a lg:scrollsused>0): 128170x 0.18-a0-1571-g22b4fda, 89715x 0.18-a0-845-gc59c8fa, 73256x 0.18-a0-1163-g98183fe, 47996x 0.18-a0-1399-gfc9c12e, 36737x 0.18-a0-43-g402c68f, 32499x 0.18-a0-601-g3d103d0, 29622x 0.18-a0-1542-g9c1a92e, 13446x 0.18-a0-844-g9229740, 13445x 0.18-a0-1-gfac8111, 13419x 0.18-a0-750-g37044d6, 12830x 0.18-a0-1718-g40ea4b6, 12703x 0.18-a0-1685-g44... 22:02:09 %git 663d63a 22:02:09 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-1781-g663d63a: Slow Iron Giants down a bit 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/663d63a8bd38 22:02:26 !lm * cv=0.18-a lg:scrollsused>0 cwz day s=vlong 22:02:27 175 milestones for * (cv=0.18-a lg:scrollsused>0 cwz day): 67x 0.18-a0-1163-g98183fe, 64x 0.18-a0-1571-g22b4fda, 26x 0.18-a0-1781-g663d63a, 14x 0.18-a0-845-gc59c8fa, 4x 0.18-a0-1399-gfc9c12e 22:02:42 I see those games didn't all begin that version though 22:03:00 -!- jefus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:03:20 hrm that 1163 is very confusing, that looks like a game that didn't transfer somehow 22:03:26 is cwz on some weird repo? 22:03:29 I recall it was in the past 22:03:48 i'm going to do some local bisection 22:04:04 !lm * !cwz !experimental scrollsused>0 22:04:26 Don't you die on my sequell, stay with me! 22:04:33 *me 22:05:10 6883423. [2016-05-05 02:04:35] DeviousJester the Fencer (L15 CeFi of Okawaru) killed Josephine on turn 43170. (D:13) 22:06:27 !lm * !cwz !experimental scrollsused>0 x=vlong 22:06:35 !lm * !cwz !experimental scrollsused>0 x=vlong,scrollsused 22:06:52 !calc 1.06^5 22:06:53 Unknown field: x 22:07:00 try ** 22:07:05 !calc 1.06**5 22:07:07 1.34 22:07:20 6883425. [2016-05-05 02:06:29] [vlong=0.17.1-3-g152610e] LukarsButtSlave the Fencer (L20 DsGl of Okawaru) killed Urug on turn 46511. (D:14) 22:07:31 well, it seems that no but in 0.17.1 22:07:32 663d63a is broken 22:07:39 *bug 22:07:43 cool, thanks 22:07:58 %git 663d63a 22:07:58 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-1781-g663d63a: Slow Iron Giants down a bit 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/663d63a8bd38 22:08:08 oh I see 22:08:13 6883427. [2016-05-05 02:07:18] [vlong=0.17.1-3-g152610e;scrollsused=77] LukarsButtSlave the Fencer (L20 DsGl of Okawaru) reached level 15 of the Dungeon on turn 47018. (D:15) 22:08:23 yeah I would try that last commit that changed the action table I guess? 22:08:30 I'm going to find a non-cwz version that's working 22:08:40 !lm * !cwz !experimental scrollsused>0 cv=0.18-a x=vlong,scrollsused 22:08:56 1021265. [2016-05-03 21:42:46] [vlong=0.18-a0-1688-gcd67086;scrollsused=3] DickMUffin69 the Skirmisher (L4 MiFi) killed Robin on turn 1451. (D:3) 22:09:08 %git cd67086 22:09:08 07Lasty02 * 0.18-a0-1688-gcd67086: Fix a typo (amalloy) 10(8 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cd67086d2279 22:09:13 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:09:14 who committed the dact changes? 22:09:16 that version seems working 22:09:17 has to be after this, presumably 22:09:22 i thought it was wheals but I don't see it in the log 22:09:28 it's in the commit 22:09:36 it says wheals 22:09:39 i can'f din the commit :P 22:09:45 testing cd67086 22:10:00 %git fa59832 22:10:00 07argonaut02 {wheals} * 0.18-a0-1746-gfa59832: Count defensive actions. 10(6 months ago, 12 files, 153+ 28-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fa5983245acb 22:10:08 {wheals} means wheals commited it 22:10:12 unless you mean another one 22:10:22 ah i was searching --author= 22:10:32 yeah there's probably --comitter 22:10:42 anyway i'll test the commit before that one next 22:10:48 this is odd, i don't see cd67086 in master... 22:10:56 oh 22:10:58 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 22:10:59 that's because it's not, of course 22:11:26 it's not? 22:12:04 %git ukayaw 22:12:04 07Lasty02 * 0.18-a0-1291-gb98e84e: Fix a typo (amalloy) 10(8 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b98e84e416d4 22:12:16 cd67086 works! 22:12:28 looks like the last master commit in ukayaw is 22:12:29 %git 2dc620858e380e92c9a22e1613ec140537de807a 22:12:29 07MarvinPA02 * 0.18-a0-1220-g2dc6208: Don't ask Octopodes for armour as a trove toll (edsrzf) 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 15+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2dc620858e38 22:12:35 so not surprising 22:13:12 oh, well I queried non-experimental games 22:13:19 so I guess I'm confused 22:13:20 that one shouldn't have come up 22:13:32 worrying, maybe 22:13:41 !lm * !cwz !experimental scrollsused>0 cv=0.18-a x=vlong,scrollsused 22:13:45 testing fa59832~1 22:13:45 !lm * !cwz !experimental scrollsused>0 cv=0.18-a x=vlong,scrollsused,file 22:13:52 1021265. [2016-05-03 21:42:46] [vlong=0.18-a0-1688-gcd67086;scrollsused=3] DickMUffin69 the Skirmisher (L4 MiFi) killed Robin on turn 1451. (D:3) 22:13:55 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:14:02 hah 22:14:03 1021265. [2016-05-03 21:42:46] [vlong=0.18-a0-1688-gcd67086;scrollsused=3;file=cpo/dcss-milestones-combo god] DickMUffin69 the Skirmisher (L4 MiFi) killed Robin on turn 1451. (D:3) 22:14:15 i banned that dude just yesterday 22:14:15 oh wtf 22:14:15 that's experimental! 22:14:15 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 22:14:23 what kind of circus is chequers running here... 22:14:26 !!! 22:14:41 also the space in the filename? 22:14:41 !hs * ukayaw x=experimental 22:14:42 Unknown field: experimental 22:14:48 it's a _ 22:14:50 no it's not a field 22:14:52 irl 22:14:52 it's a kw 22:15:08 !hs * ukayaw x=file 22:15:09 441. [file=cbro/crawl/meta/combo god/logfile] namelastname112 the Rhythm of Life and Death (L27 DrAs of Ukayaw), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2016-04-23 16:03:00, with 14964313 points after 105629 turns and 7:02:20. 22:15:11 that branch not being marked experimental is a separate problem i guess 22:15:12 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 22:15:15 also x=explbr 22:15:19 ah 22:15:23 there is a field for it? 22:15:32 !lm * !cwz !experimental scrollsused>0 cv=0.18-a x=vlong,scrollsused,file,explbr 22:15:43 1021265. [2016-05-03 21:42:46] [vlong=0.18-a0-1688-gcd67086;scrollsused=3;file=cpo/dcss-milestones-combo god;explbr=] DickMUffin69 the Skirmisher (L4 MiFi) killed Robin on turn 1451. (D:3) 22:15:49 hrumph 22:15:53 hm, they misset that 22:15:57 I'm hrumphing 22:16:05 yeah, ffa9a88 works 22:16:17 aka fa59832~1 22:16:35 now we try fa59832 22:16:52 unrelated: how do you adjust hd in @?? ? 22:16:54 %git fa59832 22:16:55 07argonaut02 {wheals} * 0.18-a0-1746-gfa59832: Count defensive actions. 10(6 months ago, 12 files, 153+ 28-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fa5983245acb 22:17:00 @??goblin hd:30 22:17:00 goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 30 | HP: 98-138 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | XP: 4525 | Sz: small | Int: human. 22:17:05 !lm * !cwz !experimental scrollsused>0 cv=0.18-a x=vlong,scrollsused,file,explbr,gid 22:17:16 1021265. [2016-05-03 21:42:46] [vlong=0.18-a0-1688-gcd67086;scrollsused=3;file=cpo/dcss-milestones-combo god;explbr=;game_key=DickMUffin69:cpo:20160403212232S] DickMUffin69 the Skirmisher (L4 MiFi) killed Robin on turn 1451. (D:3) 22:17:24 greensnark: It looks like some experimental branch games are not being marked as such in sequell, cf. DickMUffin69:cpo:20160403212232S 22:17:56 hm 22:18:27 -!- lnt has quit [Client Quit] 22:18:42 -!- jefus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:18:49 <|amethyst> what do the logfiles say? 22:19:00 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:19:01 dang. fa59832 works too 22:19:01 there were also some cleanup commits that might be relevant 22:19:07 %git 18c4181edb4fc881f6028f291644c629d377fef2 22:19:07 07wheals02 * 0.18-a0-1747-g18c4181: Cleanup code (|amethyst). 10(3 weeks ago, 3 files, 14+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/18c4181edb4f 22:19:11 %git 48885bca65be0117cb7c759dba5824e27105bad3 22:19:11 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-1766-g48885bc: Don't claim to evoke hammers (WorldFamousW) 10(3 weeks ago, 2 files, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/48885bca65be 22:19:23 trying 18c4181 22:21:07 !lg * !cwz !experimental file!~~combo scrollsused>0 cv=0.18-a x=vlong,scrollsused 22:21:20 117396. [vlong=0.18-a0-1677-g2bdad6c;scrollsused=7] djmy96 the Martial Artist (L11 DrTm of Sif Muna), quit the game on D:11 on 2016-05-04 00:54:35, with 11548 points after 20075 turns and 0:50:00. 22:21:34 ok that should be the last working version played online 22:21:49 18c4181 work 22:22:08 or rather 22:22:24 !lg * !cwz !experimental file!~~combo scrollsused>0 cv=0.18-a max=vlong x=vlong,scrollsused 22:22:37 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 22:22:47 wheallls 22:23:01 117396. [vlong=0.18-a0-1808-g3e993bd;scrollsused=13] Rubices the Basher (L9 DsBe of Trog), quit the game on D:7 (kb_xom_exploding_sheep) on 2016-04-26 19:22:13, with 2700 points after 4778 turns and 0:20:05. 22:23:06 did you know scrollsused & potionsused don't work properly in trunk right now? and we think it's related to dact changes 22:23:07 huh 22:23:10 <|amethyst> what's the URL for the logfile here? 22:23:26 |amethyst: sorry, which server, cpo? 22:23:29 |amethyst: just any logfile showing the example failure, or one in particular? 22:23:47 <|amethyst> oh 22:24:00 !lg * !cwz !experimental file!~~combo scrollsused>0 cv=0.18-a max=vlong x=vlong,scrollsused,src,file 22:24:07 <|amethyst> I was thinking the ones that are experimental but not marked as such 22:24:08 117396. [vlong=0.18-a0-1808-g3e993bd;scrollsused=13;src=cao;file=cao/logfile-git] Rubices the Basher (L9 DsBe of Trog), quit the game on D:7 (kb_xom_exploding_sheep) on 2016-04-26 19:22:13, with 2700 points after 4778 turns and 0:20:05. 22:24:14 that one is indeed trunk 22:24:23 <|amethyst> I didn't scroll back far enough to see about the scrollsused thing 22:24:33 and as recent as 1808 22:24:53 so I'm not sure what's up 22:25:10 |amethyst: https://crawl.project357.org/dcss-logfiles-combo_god 22:25:27 wait, is this something only broken on combo god? 22:25:35 no, all 0.18 22:25:39 it works on combo_god, i think 22:25:42 https://crawl.project357.org/dcss-logfiles-0.18 22:25:57 well there's one at 1808 with working scrollsused 22:26:08 it's broken in 48885bca65be0117cb7c759dba5824e27105bad3 22:26:15 and working in 18c4181 22:26:17 that's mine, right? 22:26:17 %git 48885bca65be0117cb7c759dba5824e27105bad3 22:26:17 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-1766-g48885bc: Don't claim to evoke hammers (WorldFamousW) 10(3 weeks ago, 2 files, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/48885bca65be 22:26:28 good, i didn't really have a clue what it'd be otherwise 22:26:29 several commits in between 22:26:31 then why is this 1808 one working 22:26:40 gammafunk: imported? 22:26:42 magic 22:26:46 imported? 22:26:48 you mean transfered? 22:26:51 ya 22:26:55 well 22:27:11 <|amethyst> !lg * !cwz !experimental file!~~combo scrollsused>0 cv=0.18-a max=vlong -log 22:27:14 only happens if the game started in a broken version? 22:27:18 117396. Rubices, XL9 DsBe, T:4778: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Rubices/morgue-Rubices-20160426-192213.txt 22:27:38 the commits I'll try (old to new) between 18c4181..48885bc: 7377c14 62c9655 22:27:39 i would expect that new scroll uses aren't registered, but that old ones remain 22:27:57 <|amethyst> 4778 | D:7 | Upgraded the game from 0.18-a0-1649-g8d9735b to 0.18-a0-1808-g3e993bd 4778 | D:7 | Quit the game 22:28:10 you can see it was a save import 22:28:14 er, transfer 22:28:22 <|amethyst> and never saved in between transferring and quitting 22:28:53 Well I give up, and I'm moving to Canada 22:29:00 ZiBuDo: I'll need your sofa 22:29:13 i don't think it's that complex.... 22:29:16 i can offer you a guest bedroom 22:29:52 it wouldn't be a release without an awful bug would it 22:30:14 this is not all that bad, basically only affects a tourney banner 22:30:17 and sequell stats 22:30:49 7377c14 works 22:31:00 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:31:05 i'm guessing it's 62c9655, testing now 22:31:26 %git 62c9655 22:31:26 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-1765-g62c9655: Move count_action out of player.cc 10(3 weeks ago, 15 files, 45+ 36-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/62c96558818d 22:31:27 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:31:29 looks like a real boring change tho 22:31:31 uh 22:31:49 well, nothing is impossible 22:32:18 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 22:32:19 The build passed. (0.17.2 - 21b64f0 #5404 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/127877855 22:32:19 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 22:32:44 <|amethyst> hm 22:32:49 <|amethyst> my guess would have been 22:32:50 hm, there's a save transfer bug here, at least 22:32:55 <|amethyst> %git 48885bca6 22:32:55 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-1766-g48885bc: Don't claim to evoke hammers (WorldFamousW) 10(3 weeks ago, 2 files, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/48885bca65be 22:32:58 yeah 22:33:04 however 22:33:04 62c9655 works too 22:33:07 it seems to still work for me 22:33:09 after that commit 22:33:16 so i'm at a loss 22:33:27 chequers, didn't you say 48885bc didn't work? 22:33:38 let me test again. maybe i did something dumb 22:33:40 <|amethyst> 32-bit vs 64-bit 22:33:44 <|amethyst> maybe 22:33:50 <|amethyst> hm, no, it uses an int 22:33:58 I have a entry in my logfile saying that 48885bc doesn't work 22:34:14 oh, wait 22:34:15 v=0.18-a0:vlong=0.18-a0-1766-g48885bc:lv=0.1:name=Wuban:race=Troll:cls=Monk....scrollsused=0:potionsused=0:sc=2:ktyp=mon:killer=a hobgoblin:dam=2:sdam=2:tdam=2:end=20160405122524S 22:34:28 i was looking at the wrong thing 22:34:29 i might have forgotten to actually quaff/read?? 22:34:34 yeah, i think 48885bc would've broken it 22:34:46 it works in the log but not for the milestone 22:34:46 i was looking at the wrong thing 22:34:59 hm, that data is from the log 22:35:08 <|amethyst> that commit completely changed how actions without auxtypes are stored, right? 22:35:11 being that I don't appear to have milestone file ocally 22:35:25 yes, they have (0xFFFF0000) prepended 22:35:32 which is gonna break the code in hiscores.cc 22:35:40 easy fix is to add "i & 0xFFFF" to the hiscores.cc code 22:35:50 lines 1715 and 1721, possibly? 22:36:08 yeah, this is the faulty commit for sure 22:36:17 hm, i never remember how to generate milestones 22:36:25 i've been testing by dying 22:36:41 that generates a logfile entry, and it's broken in my logfile 22:36:55 there's a compile switch to generate milestones 22:37:42 PleasingFungus: not "i | 0xFFFF0000"? 22:37:51 hm 22:37:54 <|amethyst> wouldn't it be 0x8000 prepended? 22:38:00 mine was wrong 22:38:17 <|amethyst> since you're orring in -32768 << 16 22:38:31 i've forgotten what numbers are 22:38:51 probably 22:39:04 i should never have written that commit..... 22:39:14 someone who remembers what numbers are should commit the fix, imo. 22:39:46 <|amethyst> I imagine we've given up on action counts in old saves 22:40:22 <|amethyst> maybe wipe the action count table on transfer in tags.cc just in case? 22:40:31 PleasingFungus: I've updated the download page for windows packages + source packages, would you mind making a wordpress post about the release, mentioning that os x and linux packages will be forthcoming? 22:40:39 gammafunk: i'd be happy to! 22:40:41 ty 22:41:02 luckily this isn't the sort of bug that requires re-cooking the builds... 22:41:08 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:41:08 yeah def. not 22:41:18 oh ok. So for the tournament I might disable ascetic banner then, thoughts? 22:41:27 well we can probably fix it by then but 22:41:33 not all servers auto-update stable 22:41:42 -!- home has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:41:44 we're actually not sure if we'll get cao 22:41:53 doesn't cao not have 0.18 at all right now 22:42:00 but as long as the fix is cherry-picked and we can update the servers 22:42:05 yeah neither cao nor cwz 22:42:11 and we're not sure either will be ready 22:42:15 all others are ready 22:42:30 cdo autoupdates and I believe cxc cue do as well 22:42:35 for stable, I mean 22:42:45 obviously, just have the commit scripts filter out all games from before the fix commit 22:42:47 lld is ready now but don't think it auto-updates 22:43:10 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:43:16 the problem is there's no support in tourney code to disable banner scoring for certain games /srcs only 22:43:16 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:43:25 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:43:30 it might be possible to hack in for this case by inspecting vlong... but I am feeling bad just writing htat 22:43:41 chequers: well servers without the fix will essentially self-disable themselves from the banner 22:44:02 hmm, will they? 22:44:11 <|amethyst> I thought the banner was "don't use scrolls" 22:44:12 well in that players on it just won't get the banner 22:44:12 -!- MaBunny has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:44:17 lol 22:44:18 good point 22:44:20 <|amethyst> so players on it will *all* get the banner :) 22:44:23 yeah 22:44:25 so it's a win! 22:44:29 <|amethyst> (subject to other requirements) 22:44:30 everyone is happy 22:44:50 let's make a commit that sets it to \Infty 22:46:18 -!- zeia has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:46:42 yep 22:46:46 that's how it was found 22:46:57 i just did a test tourney run and everyone got ascetic 1, 2 or 3 22:47:08 gammafunk: the reclining sofa? 22:47:25 yesss 22:48:07 oh wait 22:48:15 `i` is the wrong variable anyway 22:48:37 augh 22:48:49 loops are hard 22:49:20 modify p(CACT_USE, OBJ_SCROLLS), then? 22:49:25 specifically OBJ_SCROLLS 22:49:25 yeah 22:50:47 p(CACT_USE, OBJ_SCROLLS | (-32768 << 16)) or something? 22:51:00 -!- Pachimari has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 22:51:01 and hope OBJ_SCROLLS never gets changed to be bigger than 0xFFFF :P 22:51:12 <|amethyst> hm 22:51:14 <|amethyst> my suggestion 22:51:24 <|amethyst> we have a pair caction_extract_types(int compound_subtype) 22:51:24 (hopefully if it does we'll make you.action_count sane first) 22:51:27 <|amethyst> make the inverse function 22:51:29 <|amethyst> and use that 22:51:36 p(CACT_USE, OBJ_SCROLLS | (-32768 << 16)) or something? 22:51:44 <|amethyst> rather than hardcoding -32768 in the hiscores code 22:51:47 are you trying to help @crawlcode get new material 22:51:50 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:51:59 is compound_subtype = (auxtype << 16) | (subtype & 0xFFFF); not good enough 22:52:00 aren't we all 22:52:29 <|amethyst> wheals: if you make this function work like count_action as far as defaults 22:52:59 <|amethyst> int caction_compound(int subtype = -32768, int auxtype = -32768) 22:53:14 <|amethyst> then here p(CACT_USE, caction_compound(OBJ_SCROLLS)) 22:54:01 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 22:54:10 <|amethyst> but maybe it's just better to break action count compatibility and store three numbers rather than two 22:54:30 <|amethyst> the whole purpose of using just two numbers was to allow old saves to transfer action counts correctly 22:54:34 <|amethyst> and that has already been broken 22:55:39 feel wary about doing that in the release branch at least 22:55:52 <|amethyst> hm, yeah, probably 22:56:52 sounds like a pretty good idea for 0.19 though 22:57:18 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:57:33 http://sprunge.us/EMgG?diff how does this look 22:57:42 anyway, based on this I'm going to disable ascetic for the tourney, but we can re-enable it if all tourney servers update to the fixed commit before it starts 22:57:55 oh yeah 22:58:00 need to do it for potions too 22:58:54 -!- techieAgnostic has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:59:28 -!- bsdbeard has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:31 now to wait to test it 23:00:36 if we had regression tests, this would be a great caniddate 23:03:09 -!- jefus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:03:46 https://twitter.com/fuckeveryword/status/728056626352005120 same tbh 23:04:18 more like https://twitter.com/fuckeveryword/status/558919644770091009 23:04:30 or is it one of the non-sword-unrealistic ones 23:04:33 oh good one 23:04:50 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:05:08 oh right, compund is not the correct spelling 23:06:15 i guess this is the real upshot https://twitter.com/fuckeveryword/status/627697849375965184?lang=en 23:06:39 agreed 23:11:20 https://twitter.com/fuckeveryword/status/728056626352005120 same tbh 23:11:20 more like https://twitter.com/fuckeveryword/status/558919644770091009 23:11:34 fun question for you lot https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=19829&p=268333 23:11:37 I read the url as "fuckeverysword" and when I clicked the second one I was like "jesus man stick to your theme" 23:11:45 haha 23:11:58 I am not joking 23:11:59 oh, that's an easy one to answer. 23:12:25 i've used a sword of bugginess before, so I guess bugs technically are swords 23:13:00 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 23:13:01 The build has errored. (mdmanual - cdbfacc #5405 : gammafunk): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/127878657 23:13:01 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 23:13:07 ??guru wisdom[sword 23:13:07 guru_wisdom[22/27]: technically your head is not a sword 23:13:10 -!- Diabl0658 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:15:36 i like how travis joins the channel then messages it 23:17:49 <|amethyst> that's configurable 23:18:43 <|amethyst> you can set skip_join: true in the irc section 23:18:53 <|amethyst> but most channels have +n so 23:21:22 well crap, this didn't work 23:22:38 ? 23:23:14 the solution i tried 23:23:29 my logfile still says scrollsused=0:potionsused=0 23:25:54 -!- lukano has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:27:45 !tell |amethyst i tried http://sprunge.us/biiB?diff ; ?# shows the scroll/potion use is getting recorded, but it's still not in the logfile 23:27:46 wheals: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 23:31:19 -!- wheals has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:33:29 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:45:24 -!- home has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:49:13 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:55:43 -!- zeia has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:57:40 hm 23:59:40 that's not a /msg, that's a /notify 23:59:53 and as |amethyst said, most channels disallow notify from outside