00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:25 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-20-g1ce5f50: Glyph compatibility updates 10(68 seconds ago, 4 files, 1+ 310-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1ce5f50abd78 00:00:51 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.18] * 0.18-b1-14-g029dad2: Glyph compatibility updates 10(2 minutes ago, 4 files, 1+ 310-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/029dad26e3b7 00:01:27 oh that's another thing, they break when monsters get removed 00:01:57 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:03:08 wait, what else was there? 00:05:26 -!- chequers has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:07:07 -!- Blazinghbnd_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:08:20 i don't know who's in charge of cdo, but can i have admin there? i can't download the save file to check up on https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10383 00:08:57 <|amethyst> amalloy: using your mantis login, not your CDO login? 00:08:59 that'd be n*pkin 00:09:32 it should be my CDO login, right? 00:09:36 -!- Shasbat has joined ##crawl-dev 00:10:03 just grabbed it and tossed it up on dropbox for you 00:10:26 <|amethyst> amalloy: save download from CDO uses the mantis DB for authentication, though I'm not sure what permissions it wants 00:10:42 oh, that's a very familiar looking vault 00:10:48 thanks pf 00:10:49 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:11:07 <|amethyst> it's cheibrodos_leafed_vault 00:11:11 |amethyst: my mantis login doesn't work either 00:11:20 yeah, that bug about the disconnected vault? 00:11:31 !vault cheibrodos_leafed_vault 00:11:31 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/float.des#l5939 00:11:57 interestingly you can actually get into there in ldf's game, with /digging 00:12:01 seems pretty normal 00:12:03 <|amethyst> amalloy: ah, hm... probably message npkin then 00:12:04 the vault 00:12:05 there's one spot where a rock wall lets you in 00:12:26 stone wall? 00:13:01 no, rock. just west of the northmost chamber 00:13:01 <|amethyst> hm 00:13:05 <|amethyst> it's a non-minivault 00:13:12 -!- Arglure has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:13:38 i see the @ in the vault is "reachable" from the rest of the dungeon, except that the part it's reachable from is not itself reachable, because of the hatch nonsense 00:14:17 <|amethyst> I guess really it's probably layout_cave_shapes that is the problem 00:14:23 well, what I'm guessing happened is that the vault generated in a disconnected area 00:14:31 <|amethyst> it's a primary vault 00:14:34 <|amethyst> it was placed first 00:14:40 <|amethyst> then the layout placed around it 00:14:50 -!- MagicLamp has quit [] 00:14:50 yeah, the hatches are the level gen algo's way of dealing with that? 00:14:57 it put them there because of that zone 00:15:05 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:11 <|amethyst> not sure if those come from the layout or later 00:15:16 <|amethyst> in this case 00:15:35 it has a pass where it puts them in disconnected zones iirc 00:15:36 <|amethyst> it is AFAIK the layout's responsibility to hook up to the primary vault 00:15:54 <|amethyst> gammafunk: that's the level builder algorithm as a whole 00:15:57 right 00:17:10 |amethyst: but isn't the order actually generate the layout, plop N primary vaults down, check the map validity? 00:17:18 <|amethyst> no 00:17:22 <|amethyst> vault comes before layout 00:17:30 <|amethyst> that's the difference between a vault and a minivault 00:17:35 hrm, vault choosing, or vault placement? 00:17:40 or both 00:17:48 <|amethyst> placement at least, not sure about choosing 00:18:37 <|amethyst> floating non-mini vaults I think *can* be placed after the layout 00:18:48 <|amethyst> but if you look at the order in &^E this one was placed before 00:18:59 hrm, but this is a floating non-mini vault right? 00:19:07 oh you're saying there's another pass 00:19:16 what that happens additionally 00:19:38 <|amethyst> yeah, IIRC you can have multiple floating vaults on a level 00:20:06 amalloy: I think this is no problem with the vault itself, but rather just some badness from our overall level gen (and maybe that layout in particular) 00:20:34 That vault is on the larger side which tends to result in higher proportion of funkier levels 00:20:36 yeah, that's what i understand |amethyst to have said earlier. sounds right to me too 00:21:04 fun fact: cheibrodos considers this vault his finest work 00:21:41 although maybe it's secretly the uterus vault and he just won't admit it 00:22:33 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 00:25:16 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:25:57 gammafunk what do you think is my finest work 00:26:17 I know which one you want me to say, so it'd be cheating 00:26:36 ...I don't know that at all 00:26:58 I have no idea what you're thinking of 00:27:21 You said one time it was octagon city 00:27:26 -!- chequers has joined ##crawl-dev 00:27:26 before monster digging was added 00:28:09 The minmay fan favorite is definitely the tartarus end though 00:28:19 i'm a big fan of that end 00:29:39 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-19-gf75ed07 (34) 00:31:19 Stable (0.18) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-b1-14-g029dad2 00:34:33 I don't remember saying that but ok 00:34:44 though it is one of my favourites w/o monster digging 00:34:50 i hate the tar end 00:35:01 I don't think my finest work is a crawl vault 00:36:11 -!- packet_loss has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:37:49 oh I thought you meant as a vault 00:38:40 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:43:20 what is your finest work 00:43:43 -!- zeia has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:43:48 <|amethyst> ??the giaggostuono 00:43:48 the giaggostuono[1/3]: http://www.cowmuffins.net/stuff/THEGIAGGOSTUONO.png 00:44:27 <|amethyst> Personally, I like Mummy Roommates 00:49:04 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:53:18 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 00:59:20 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:59:26 i think my finest work so far is an unfinished video game mod 00:59:34 -!- glaas has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:44 if it has to be stuff that the public has seen, then my finest work is probably the time that I told a homophobic evangelist that he was gay because 50% of his wife's genes came from her dad 01:04:33 -!- Leszczynek has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 01:05:14 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:06:34 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:08:56 Pre-release branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-b1-14-g029dad2 (34) 01:09:47 -!- morik has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:12:39 -!- Arglure has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:13:06 -!- BanMido_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:16:51 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 01:19:38 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-20-g1ce5f50 (34) 01:22:48 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:22:48 -!- tw12we has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:22:56 <|amethyst> hm, was ctrl-o changed recently to not show altars? 01:23:31 <|amethyst> oh duh 01:23:46 <|amethyst> it just skips that section for dg, never noticed that before 01:23:53 neat 01:25:26 but what if my dg wants to know what overflow altars are left so they can prepare for the remaining overflow vaults???? 01:29:20 -!- Shasbat has left ##crawl-dev 01:34:31 lol 01:35:24 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: Reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold, BYE] 01:35:41 mummy roommates is definitely going to be your magnum opus as far as future generations are concerned, minmay 01:46:13 -!- fixit_friend has joined ##crawl-dev 01:49:00 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:54:01 -!- IceBlind has quit [] 01:54:48 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-20-g1ce5f50 01:55:19 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:56:44 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 01:56:47 -!- doroboNeko has joined ##crawl-dev 01:59:30 hello 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:03:20 -!- doroboNeko has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:11:34 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:12:32 -!- Ubk_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:13:26 Stable (0.18) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-b1-14-g029dad2 02:14:04 -!- Zibudo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:16:04 -!- Ubk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:26:19 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:30:34 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 02:32:59 -!- NotKat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:33:27 hmm 02:33:37 is it okay that elemental wellsprings can be killed with abjuration? 02:34:48 because the elementals they summon get abjured, and that costs the wellspring health? 02:34:59 yeah 02:37:36 -!- packet_loss has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:41:20 nice 02:41:57 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:42:30 -!- Arivia has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:47:32 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:49:00 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:49:14 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 02:49:44 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 02:50:14 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 02:50:45 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest63570 02:51:14 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 02:51:29 how about making translucent stone walls a different colour from translucent rock walls in console by default? 02:52:54 !lg * s=ktyp 02:52:57 i suggest sif muna colour, and take it away from trove walls 02:53:02 5534205 games for *: 3399746x mon, 855084x beam, 517897x quitting, 312719x leaving, 280548x pois, 41136x winning, 29460x acid, 23464x cloud, 10990x disintegration, 8927x wild magic, 8533x starvation, 8287x trap, 5838x spore, 5461x burning, 4135x targeting, 3916x draining, 3109x water, 1878x rotting, 1872x something, 1656x curare, 1265x stupidity, 1128x bounce, 1078x targetting, 781x self aimed, 69... 02:53:36 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-20-g1ce5f50 02:53:42 huh, I didn't expect leaving to be 3/5ths as popular as quitting, I would have expected much lower 02:53:47 !lg . won x=ktyp 02:53:48 14. [ktyp=winning] chequers the Heavyweight Champion (L27 TrMo of The Shining One), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-12-21 09:18:12, with 15586979 points after 101075 turns and 5:33:42. 02:55:15 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:56:33 ...what were you expecting 02:58:35 !tell johnstein hate to be a bother but can you reset the password on "minmay" on cbro? im dumb and forgot it and apparently never recorded it 02:58:36 minmay: OK, I'll let johnstein know. 03:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:47 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:02:59 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:05:37 -!- betheynyx has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 03:10:56 Stable (0.18) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-b1-14-g029dad2 03:15:01 -!- shnurlf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:23:46 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-20-g1ce5f50 (34) 03:31:45 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 03:35:43 minmay: "12345--that's the same combination as my luggage!" 03:36:21 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 03:52:33 G - the ring "Fitir" {Ice *Corrode rElec MR++ SInv, !a} 03:52:39 guess I need to update my rod autoinscription code 03:54:04 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:55:24 is there a way to force the game to make me airstrike an air elemental, other than turning it invisible? because i want my battlesphere to shoot at it 04:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:03:59 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0.2/20160407164938]] 04:07:33 -!- Arglure has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:09:30 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:13:27 can't you use another spell like dart and aim at that? 04:13:48 even if your spell doesn't hit that enemy due to LOF the sphere will go for who you aimed at 04:14:06 I am like 74% sure 04:16:24 zxc, airstrike is the lowest level battlesphere-triggering spell in this case 04:16:43 should've learnt mdart 04:16:45 of course it's a silly question in the first place since there aren't any actually dangerous enemies with rWind 04:17:54 what happens if you aim airstrike behind the enemy? 04:18:10 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:18:19 huh, that works 04:19:16 also, man the rElec nerf is annoying for characters using cbl 04:20:19 because air wasn't bad enough before! 04:20:28 hey it's still better than fire 04:20:40 nop 04:25:26 -!- Diabl0658 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:27:33 -!- Adder_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:28:34 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:35:04 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:38:30 -!- packet_loss has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:39:26 does sticky flame make noise? 04:42:45 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:43:59 all spells make noise 04:45:07 hrm, bolt of drain? 04:45:17 that's hit loudness I guess 04:45:34 -!- koboldina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:46:35 -!- Guest63570 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:51:17 minmay: even silent spells? 04:52:16 wow, hit_loudness in zap data is really weird 04:52:29 okay, fine, ensorcelled hibernation doesn't make noise 04:52:31 source beam.cc:517 04:52:35 !source beam.cc:517 04:52:35 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/beam.cc#l517 04:52:40 seems to be its only use 04:52:54 and casting/effect noise are already specified in spl-data.h 04:56:03 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:56:04 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:59:32 -!- MagicLamp has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:01:12 amalloy: there's casting loudness and effect loudness at the target, and all spells have a casting loudness, it seems 05:03:11 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 05:03:36 reading this, I see that each summoned dragon from dragon's call makes as much noise as a fireball 05:04:24 -!- Idolo has quit [] 05:04:54 -!- johnny0_ is now known as johnny0 05:05:05 -!- Kat_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:06:23 interesting, so that's why spires seem so quite 05:06:38 "electrical bolt" has a 5 case noise but no effect noise 05:07:03 s/case/cast/ 05:07:55 oh but, SPFLAG_NOISY 05:08:23 kkk 05:08:27 kkkkkkk 05:10:30 !source mon-cast.cc:6772 05:10:30 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-cast.cc#l6772 05:10:34 good stuff 05:14:07 -!- Blazinghbnd_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:14:32 -!- Blazinghbnd_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:15:47 T - Ban Ecrud's Catalogue of Self-Improvement and the Voyage {god gift} 05:16:10 I feel like the book randart name generator sometimes comes dangerously close to exceeding 80 characters in the inventory 05:28:55 -!- Grammus has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 05:29:07 -!- Grammus has joined ##crawl-dev 05:33:02 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:36:19 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:40:51 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 05:43:13 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:43:13 -!- shinino has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:47:26 I - Sif Muna's Tome of Hurtful Poisoning {god gift} 05:47:33 this book doesn't contain any poison spells, is that a bug 05:47:45 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest34116 05:47:53 it has flame tongue, icicle, lightning bolt, battlesphere, cbl, delayed fireball, and chain lightning 05:49:12 -!- Gorice has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:52:36 -!- Guest34116 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:57:46 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:00:00 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:57 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 06:04:39 -!- edsrzf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:06:52 -!- BanMido_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:08:49 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:19:13 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:31:08 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:31:21 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:33:38 -!- friendfixit has joined ##crawl-dev 06:33:41 -!- fixit_friend has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:38:52 -!- packet_loss has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:40:01 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:44:35 !lg minmay place=d:4 -tv 06:44:36 367. minmay, XL27 OpVM, T:132200 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 06:45:21 -!- errant_nrx has quit [Quit: EXIT] 06:47:37 Cuchill freezes you!!! 06:48:31 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest69032 06:51:49 i should really just dig a path before orbrun instead of trying to do it quickly with natural paths 06:53:01 -!- Guest69032 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:58:08 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 06:58:52 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:01:00 -!- halv has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 07:01:26 -!- Blazinghbnd_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:18:06 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 07:21:57 Entropy weavers can't open doors 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10384 by Sar 07:31:48 -!- tollymain has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 07:36:52 -!- friendfixit has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:37:02 -!- fixit_friend has joined ##crawl-dev 07:38:47 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 07:45:53 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 07:47:32 New branch created: pull/258 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/258 07:47:32 03yrmvgh02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/258 * 0.19-a0-21-g20f6974: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10384 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/20f69748b89a 07:52:58 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:55:43 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 12:10:08 -!- betheynyx has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 12:20:33 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:21:12 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:23:42 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:24:06 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest47560 12:25:26 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:26:42 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 12:29:07 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:31:49 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-21-geec0db1: Fix shadow fiend tile name (regret-index) 10(36 seconds ago, 2 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eec0db152425 12:32:54 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 12:33:03 huh apparently dazzling spray is capped at 50 power, but the spl-data claims it's capped at 100 12:33:39 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 12:35:08 hrm 12:35:12 zap-data vs spl-data? 12:35:18 the zap-data caps are really weird to me 12:35:20 this looks like it has been the case since implementation, yeah 12:35:38 capped at 50 in zap-data and 100 in spl-data 12:35:46 <|amethyst> is the zap-data cap applied to both power and enchantment power? 12:35:49 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 12:35:54 <|amethyst> s/both power/both beam power/ 12:36:37 looks like it, yeah 12:36:39 <|amethyst> one difference would be monster dazzling spray 12:38:32 ah looks like the blinding doesn't even check power anyway, just HD 12:40:27 -!- unmovable has joined ##crawl-dev 12:40:36 -!- unmovable has quit [Client Quit] 12:41:16 -!- unmovable has joined ##crawl-dev 12:42:10 -!- packet_loss has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:44:23 -!- t4nk684 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:45:00 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:46:48 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:47:49 -!- mibert has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:48:26 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:50:25 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-22-gc91b278: Let entropy weavers open doors (#10384) 10(24 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c91b278225e6 12:50:25 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-23-g670a064: Fix Dazzling Spray power cap being incorrectly displayed 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/670a064fcf4e 12:50:47 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest8629 12:50:57 <|amethyst> ghost nerfer :) 12:51:17 ghosts casting it already get to cheat and confuse you! 12:52:41 haha, you made a commit that duplicated the pull request, referenced the pull request, but didn't use it? 12:53:22 it would have been more effort to use it than to duplicate it since they didn't give a commit message 12:53:30 also i guess i used the wrong syntax to close it! 12:54:34 your message did automatically show up on the PR 12:54:36 <|amethyst> "Closes #XYZ pull request" works (with "[cC]loses #XYZ" being the active part) 12:54:58 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-24-g93f5f92: Fix acquirement book naming (minmay) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/93f5f9255c79 12:55:03 <|amethyst> I think there are a few other synonyms 12:55:07 aha 12:55:38 <|amethyst> https://help.github.com/articles/closing-issues-via-commit-messages/ 12:55:44 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:55:44 -!- Guest8629 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:55:52 <|amethyst> (pull requests count as issues here) 12:55:55 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 12:57:59 quick question 12:57:59 Lightli: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 12:58:02 !message 12:58:03 You probably meant !messages, or possibly !tell. 12:58:04 !messages 12:58:04 (1/1) PleasingFungus said (1d 23h 15m 21s ago): how did you manage to get a hydra corpse with 65535 heads, anyway? 12:58:32 oh that was simple: wizard mode 12:59:17 be more specific, please. 12:59:40 I used wizard mode's o command to make a hydra corpse and then got the option to specify how many heads it had 12:59:50 ahhh 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:11 &% and &m won't do it, but I forgot &o existed 13:03:36 -!- TacoSundae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:04:18 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:05:19 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-24-g93f5f92 (34) 13:06:22 -!- Guest63288 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:07:07 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-25-gc8806a0: Forbid 66535-headed wizmode hydras (Lightli) 10(35 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c8806a067b66 13:09:56 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:11:45 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:13:56 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:14:06 -!- unmovable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:15:09 -!- t4nk550 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:21:00 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:27:42 FR: Let ?/I search for item type 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10386 by moxian 13:27:42 Cannot get description of spear via ?/I 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10385 by moxian 13:41:03 -!- MagicLa0 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:41:08 -!- Denapoli has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:41:38 -!- MagicLamp has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:42:13 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:45:46 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 13:48:13 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01:05 -!- Zibudo has joined ##crawl-dev 14:04:20 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 14:11:53 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 14:14:18 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:14:21 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 14:16:06 -!- jefus has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:16:26 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:16:54 <|amethyst> the spear thing works for me, but I could see how that might be non-deterministic 14:17:48 oh yeah I forgot to ask the question 14:17:52 what's the banner for Pakellas 14:18:36 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:18:47 kill 27 lightlis 14:19:07 |amethyst: ? 14:19:17 i haven't looked, where's the nondeterminism? 14:19:24 <|amethyst> I'm not sure 14:19:41 <|amethyst> but I could imagine it depends on the directory order of the data files for example 14:19:45 <|amethyst> haven't looked into that 14:19:49 PleasingFungus: Got it, so play in the tournament using the Lightli name 14:24:34 :) 14:26:04 hm, 0.17 14:27:47 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 14:30:55 |amethyst: I experience that in 0.17 on CXC 100% of the time 14:32:24 I would be fine if I was shown a list of spear and book of Annihilations, but that's not the case. 14:36:40 very interesting that it only shows one or the other, actually 14:36:49 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest74580 14:37:01 hm, it seems to be a 0.17 problem 14:37:15 preferring annihilations, that is 14:37:20 but why doesn't it ever show both? 14:37:23 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:38:51 <|amethyst> maybe there is a bug in the exact match logic 14:38:59 <|amethyst> "there is an exact match, so take the first match" 14:40:39 -!- Alarkh has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:40:45 !source lookup_help.cc:1407 14:40:45 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/lookup_help.cc#l1407 14:40:47 i'm gonna poke around in here 14:40:49 -!- Guest74580 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:41:22 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: there is a find_earliest_match function which might not be usable here, but does at least have the kind of logic I think you'd want 14:41:54 currently trying to figure out what codepath it's taking 14:41:57 there are two that seem plauislbe 14:41:58 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: it finds the target string in which the query string appears earliest, breaking ties by picking the shortest (and therefore closest to the query) target string 14:42:13 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: "it" = find_earliest_match, not this 14:42:39 hm 14:42:43 in 0.18, it doesn't find annihilations at all 14:42:59 -!- packet_loss has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:43:51 ahhh 14:43:58 this is a good bug 14:44:07 !source lookup_help.cc:252 14:44:07 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/lookup_help.cc#l252 14:44:19 -!- Lamp has quit [] 14:44:21 if it finds exactly one result when looking for the name, it'll only return that 14:44:43 even if there are more results when searching in the body 14:44:52 that doesn't *seem* like the right result 14:45:02 honestly that whole early abort thing seems iffy? 14:45:13 <|amethyst> I can see that part being reasonable, but... 14:45:18 both size() == 1 and size() > 52 14:45:28 neither of those seem right - we check for exact_match separately 14:45:31 <|amethyst> what seems *really* iffy to me 14:45:31 later 14:45:48 <|amethyst> if there are multiple matches in the keys, but only one match in a description body 14:45:53 <|amethyst> it will pick that one match 14:45:56 -!- kaiza has quit [Quit: o7] 14:45:58 er 14:46:00 how? 14:46:01 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:46:05 i don't see that 14:46:06 <|amethyst> oh, sorry 14:46:18 <|amethyst> I'm misreading, missed the reference to key_matches in the second set of ifs 14:46:39 <|amethyst> but yeah 14:46:51 <|amethyst> probably the early abort on keys should be only if it's an exact match 14:46:56 <|amethyst> except this is a regex... 14:47:00 i'm not sure even that should come up 14:47:07 <|amethyst> hm 14:47:08 i don't think this is the right place to check for exact matches 14:47:23 yeah, i think i'm gonna dump that logic entirely 14:47:23 <|amethyst> ah, yeah, maybe it should be elsewhere 14:47:28 -!- serq has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:47:40 <|amethyst> but imo if you search for "spear" you should get "spear" and not a list that includes annihilations 14:47:45 yes 14:48:01 <|amethyst> but "spea" should give you both probably 14:48:11 yes 14:48:23 hm 14:48:23 <|amethyst> not sure what [s]pear or sp.ar should return 14:48:32 -!- MagicLamp has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:48:42 we're no longer finding spells with ?/i 14:50:02 <|amethyst> is this relevant? 14:50:07 <|amethyst> %git 57405aee 14:50:07 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-961-g57405ae: Don't make ?/ihat give the book of tempests 10(4 months ago, 1 file, 7+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/57405aee3560 14:50:17 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-26-gae82a2b: Improve ?/i logic 10(51 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ae82a2b802f0 14:50:22 <|amethyst> and a few other commits from around the same time 14:50:22 could be! 14:50:25 hm 14:50:32 actually probably not that noe 14:51:27 yeah, that's only much later 14:52:20 i guess i should cherry-pick that commit. 14:54:02 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:54:10 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 14:56:02 -!- gressup has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:56:38 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:58:35 FTR, I personally am perfectly fine with Book of Annihilation being in the result list of "spear" search. 14:58:55 (and book of Tempest in ?/ihat) 14:59:54 well there is already a separate lookup for spells (which shows you what books they're in), so leaving them out of item lookup seems good to me 15:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:18 Fair point. I retract my statement. 15:00:39 oh, nevermind, i guess that commit description does imply it'd cause that effect 15:00:41 hrm 15:02:06 reverting that commit changes nothing relevant 15:02:18 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:02:22 changes nothing at all, as far as i can tell 15:02:57 enh, i'll go with MPA on this and call it Good Enough. 15:03:28 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.18] * 0.18-b1-15-gc3399b4: Improve ?/i logic 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c3399b401dd6 15:17:45 -!- Dracunos has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:17:48 -!- Dingbat_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:18:11 -!- Dracunos_ is now known as Dracunos 15:19:34 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:20:35 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 15:22:12 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:26:49 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 15:27:04 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 15:30:19 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 15:31:00 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 15:31:23 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:32:31 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 15:36:45 -!- zeia has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:46:08 MarvinPA: thanks for removing Talos 15:52:18 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest40225 15:57:05 -!- Guest40225 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:57:53 -!- betheynyx has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:10:00 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:13:24 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 16:18:33 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:27:38 -!- Lasty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:31:59 -!- Zibudo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:35:48 -!- jetnerd has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:39:27 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:42:45 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 16:43:42 -!- packet_loss has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:47:37 Hey Lasty 16:47:41 hey 16:47:51 what's up? 16:47:52 What do you develop on? 16:47:57 Abacus! 16:48:08 Also Windows! 16:48:12 I mean crawl 16:48:18 what's your setup like? 16:48:49 I use MinGW, per the INSTALL instrux. I write in Sublime Text 3. 16:48:51 Last time I compiled crawl was maybe 3 years ago and I think it was cygwin 16:49:19 wait, whoa, you're on windows? 16:49:22 @ lasty 16:49:31 for some reason i thought wheals was the only windows dev 16:49:37 sorry Lasty didnt mean to out you like that 16:49:52 -!- MagicLamp has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:49:55 :D 16:50:01 PleasingFungus: my secret shame! 16:50:05 lol 16:50:07 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:50:21 hm, i should figure out who's doing the release soon 16:50:24 I was thinking of buying a really chap linux machine and remoting into it from windows 16:50:28 and decide if there are any critical bugs that need fixing before release 16:50:37 is mingw pretty good, then? 16:50:39 0010370, maybe 16:51:20 0010372 is worrying, ditto 0010323 16:51:24 PleasingFungus: Lasty and MPA both use windows 16:51:28 but 10370 is probably the only blocker rn 16:51:33 gammafunk: ! 16:51:34 revelations... 16:51:59 !mantis 0010370 16:51:59 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=0010370 16:52:01 there are more active windows devs than any other kind, it seems 16:52:21 I guess linux is tied depending on how you count 16:52:27 that one's been showing up for a bunch of players 16:52:35 i'd prefer if it wasn't in the release 16:52:39 since it seems very common 16:52:46 i'm not on windows anymore, i used to be 16:52:51 ah, ok 16:52:53 hrm 16:53:18 (well, i'm on windows right now but i boot into linux for dev and other stuff) 16:53:31 looking at it again, i guess blocker might be a little strong, but it's still more common than i'd liek 16:54:03 how often has it been coming up? 16:54:04 i went from msysgit -> cygwin -> linux and each was significantly nicer than the last as a dev environment :P 16:54:19 I'm not sure where I'd even start to lookiing into it 16:54:35 MarvinPA: ah, dang, cygwin is the better windows dev now? 16:54:48 Not sure I agree about cygwin, but hey people develop with *OS X* 16:55:00 gammafunk: hush, or i'll send you a screenshot of a diff. 16:55:18 i remember finding it easier at least, was a while ago though 16:55:18 WormsOfCan was sending me pngs of source code at one point 16:56:18 and i think i was using it so i could compile and termcast sil and other roguelikes too, since termcasting on windows seemed to be impossible 16:56:18 hey, he is an artist! 16:56:36 -!- noobcanoe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:56:39 <|amethyst> gammafunk: my students do that all the time 16:56:46 hah 16:56:52 <|amethyst> gammafunk: sometimes they're not screenshots, they're camera phone pictures of their monitor 16:57:12 Bad habits start early in life, I guess 16:57:17 <|amethyst> or sometimes they do copy-paste the text on their phone somehow, but it manages to strip all the newlines 16:57:55 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:58:18 -!- gressup_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:08 some of my co-workers send screenshots by pasting into MS word and sending the word document 17:00:16 These are IT professionals 17:04:41 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:07:41 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:14:14 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:15:23 |amethyst: that's called minifying, and it's so they can transmit the code to you efficiently! 17:15:30 You should praise their efficency 17:15:33 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:16:54 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:17:37 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:18:18 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:18:43 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:18:43 <|amethyst> if only they were using C-style comments instead of C++ 17:18:55 <|amethyst> then at least I could compile what they sent me :) 17:20:49 haha 17:20:54 fair 17:21:40 does anyone know the webtiles settings that enables dumps to show as urls in chat? 17:21:45 cbro has this turned off 17:22:08 hmmm 17:22:23 <|amethyst> morgue_url? 17:22:40 ah, yes 17:22:53 <|amethyst> needs to be set for each game separately 17:22:56 hm 17:22:57 johnstein: I think you have to add a morgue_url entry for each game you have defined 17:23:02 it's a kind of template string 17:23:11 # %n in paths and urls is replaced by the current username 17:23:11 # morgue_url is for a publicly available URL to access morgue_path 17:23:29 in the games OrderedDict 17:23:41 <|amethyst> cszo has morgue_url = "http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/%n/ everywhere 17:23:54 -!- shnurlf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:24:02 <|amethyst> %n is replaced with player name, not sure what other substitutions there are 17:24:30 so it's not morgue_path? 17:24:40 oh. that must be local 17:24:41 johnstein: no, that's for ...not sure actually 17:24:52 yeah it's morgue_url in addition to that 17:25:03 I can add that 17:25:10 johnstein: thanks 17:25:13 <|amethyst> it passes morgue_path to crawl -morgue 17:25:21 yeah and %n is the only replace done for that one 17:25:59 <|amethyst> if you're editing the dgamelaunch-config pre-filtered version you could also use dgl-config %%VARIABLES%% 17:26:21 <|amethyst> which get replaced at dgl publish time 17:26:28 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0.2/20160407164938]] 17:30:34 -!- vale_ has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 17:31:29 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:35:33 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:41:01 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:53:08 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:56:46 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01:27 -!- Guest47560 is now known as debo 18:02:58 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:11:41 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 18:13:37 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-a0-26-gae82a2b (34) 18:14:09 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:17:59 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:19:03 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:22:15 -!- barb4r1an has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:29:49 !learn add cjr under construction, use crawl.jorgrun.rocks/play for now 18:29:50 cjr[2/2]: under construction, use crawl.jorgrun.rocks/play for now 18:37:58 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:42:08 -!- Zibudo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:44:16 -!- packet_loss has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:46:30 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 18:50:33 -!- Diabl0658 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:51:24 -!- MagicLamp has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:53:44 -!- jefus has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:02:54 -!- jerkstoresup has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:07:21 -!- FireSight has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:07:54 lol, I should not look through my old vaults 19:07:54 minmay: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 19:08:10 "I suggest [...] not using overpowered/useless unrandarts." 19:08:17 KITEM: d = ring of protection unrand:ring_of_robustness 19:08:21 !messages 19:08:22 (1/1) johnstein said (5h 22m 41s ago): I reset your cbro password and I sent it to you via PM. let me know if you need me to send it again 19:11:20 -!- Dalwyn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:16:35 -!- alien3456 is now known as jerkstore 19:26:43 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:28:47 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 19:32:12 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 19:38:41 ?/chunk 19:38:42 Matching terms (2): chunk, contaminated_chunks; entries (40): adder[1] | animate_skeleton[1] | Bcadren's_Weird_Tips[20] | big_kobold[1] | bleak[1] | butcher[1] | coagulated_blood[1] | corpse[1] | corruption[1] | disintegration[2] | draw_out_power[1] | e[1] | eatdudes[1] | faq[23] | food[1] | food[2] | food_acquirement[1] | fun_with_your_own_corpse[2] | gh_guide[1] | ghoul[1] | giant_amoeba[2] | go... 19:38:46 ??chunk 19:38:47 chunk[1/1]: Provides 1000 nutrition. Comes in clean, rotten, poisonous, rotting, or mutagenic varieties, depending on the corpse they came from. 19:40:57 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:43:25 !learn edit chunk s/rotten.+, or/noxious, or/ 19:43:25 chunk[1/1]: Provides 1000 nutrition. Comes in clean, noxious, or mutagenic varieties, depending on the corpse they came from. 19:43:38 ??contaminated 19:43:39 contaminated ~ contamination ~ contam[1/4]: Powerful enchantments have cumulative side effects on the body, represented by a magic contamination stat. When you get enough contam, you start glowing, and you can get mutations. But it decays - unless you are hasted or invisible. The mutations are 1/5 random, otherwise bad with a 50% chance of overriding mutation resistance. 19:45:53 -!- CKyle has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:46:30 !lg * cwz -log 19:46:32 247335. Elfenrua, XL27 GrFi, T:76245: http://webzook.net/soup/morgue/trunk/Elfenrua/morgue-Elfenrua-20160430-233626.txt 19:46:37 !lg * cwz -log 0.17 19:46:38 6951. KomeijiKoishi, XL27 TeCj, T:123150: http://webzook.net/soup/morgue/0.17/KomeijiKoishi/morgue-KomeijiKoishi-20160430-161318.txt 19:46:40 ugh 19:46:45 -!- sneakynesss is now known as sneakyness 19:50:40 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:56:25 hrm 19:56:39 !source dbg-objstat.cc:691 19:56:40 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dbg-objstat.cc#l691 19:57:08 |amethyst: right above that line, should I be doing an unwind_var, or does it really matter? 19:57:51 did we ever reach hong 19:58:11 just need to catch him when he's playing 19:59:38 Is it hard to learn korean 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:04 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 20:00:45 ok, I just spoke with a player on cwz who said he'd send him a message 20:00:59 we'll have to see how it goes 20:02:18 :) 20:03:36 -!- KNBrisson has quit [Client Quit] 20:03:51 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 20:06:03 Deep-water mobs crash arena mode 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10387 by Gongclonker 20:06:04 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:06:17 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:19:44 -!- Alcopop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:23:23 new best objstat field: TotalGhoulsNutr 20:23:47 s/s// 20:27:18 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 20:29:57 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:30:26 i dont understand anyting you guys say in here ever 20:31:13 well it's encrypted 20:41:12 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:42:15 -!- bsdbeard has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:45:41 -!- packet_loss has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:46:51 -!- MaBunny has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:49:02 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:49:50 @??hell_hound 20:49:50 hell hound (10h) | Spd: 15 | HD: 5 | HP: 23-32 | AC/EV: 6/13 | Dam: 13 | natural, 05demonic, unholy, see invisible | Res: 06magic(20), 04fire+++, 03poison, 08blind, 13torm | Vul: 12cold, 08holy++ | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 146 | Sp: fire breath (3d10) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 20:50:01 those still leave chunks despite being demonic 20:50:05 @??shadow_dragon 20:50:05 shadow dragon (06D) | Spd: 10 | HD: 17 | HP: 104-148 | AC/EV: 15/10 | Dam: 2013(drain), 1509(claw), 1509(claw) | evil, cold-blooded, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(120), 02cold++, 03poison, 12drown, 13neg+++ | Vul: 08holy | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 2077 | Sp: b.draining (3d24) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 20:50:32 !tell PleasingFungus Should hell hounds no longer leave chunks now that they're demonic? I think that's left over from when they weren't 20:50:33 gammafunk: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 20:50:37 is 33x33 too large for a minivault 20:50:52 seems awful big but I'm sure there are some 20:51:09 I wonder what the odds of it actually placing are, given how the algo treats them differently 20:51:23 float vaults start generating a ton of vetoes when they get big like that 20:51:42 are you making vaults again or something? 20:52:02 -!- betheynyx has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 20:52:30 er 20:52:37 yes 20:52:42 !tell PleasingFungus I meant to say doom hounds, sorry 20:52:42 gammafunk: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 20:52:45 @??doom_hound 20:52:45 doom hound (03h) | Spd: 13 | HD: 20 | HP: 84-128 | AC/EV: 6/13 | Dam: 45, 30 | 05demonic, unholy, see invisible | Res: 06magic(20), 08blind, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 3392 | Sp: doom howl [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 20:52:48 the odds of it actually placing will be the same as any other minivault because it is a minivault 20:52:54 minivaults just get slapped on top of the generated level 20:53:18 -!- MagicLamp has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:53:22 im asking if its too large from a design perspective not a code one 20:53:40 I don't see how that prevents the vault from generating a vetoe on the level 20:53:44 *veto 20:54:52 it prevents the vault from creating a veto because all minivaults in the game are surrounded by .s 20:55:32 so unless the inside of the minivault is disconnected for some reason, it will always keep the level connected 20:57:49 really wish I knew how these things were leaving clean chunks 20:58:26 I guess it's just 20:58:48 that they have CE_CLEAN, and corpse leaving isn't directly tied to demonic holiness 20:58:56 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:59:13 except for the "mini_float" vaults that is, I don't actually know how those work, but this 33x33 one is a regular .-surrounded minivault 20:59:17 same with demonic crawlers 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:08 I suppose there's no issue with that, then, but I think it's still got to worry about placement over other vaults and there are finite tries for that etc 21:00:17 so it's probably going to have an effect on placement 21:00:37 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:43 anyhow 33x33 is pretty big for what I assume is a decorative vault? 21:02:56 -!- owl has joined ##crawl-dev 21:03:08 !tell PleasingFungus Doom hounds are accounting for 76% of the clean chunk nutrition in Tartarus, I mean is that what you really want????? 21:03:08 gammafunk: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 21:03:22 it's not decorative 21:03:27 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:03:35 it's full of monsters and items and shit 21:04:08 I guess my question isn't clear. the question is effectively: if I submit a 33x33 minivault, will someone add ORIENT: float to it 21:06:35 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:07:08 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:08:57 data from all servers now: https://crawl.project357.org/scoreboard/ 21:09:11 -!- GauHelldragon2 is now known as GauHelldragon 21:11:53 hah, there are some funny bugs showing up with the full dataset 21:12:43 looks like it's a bit more compact now, so thanks 21:12:55 alright let's get frostbite a new graphic 21:13:39 wheals: np 21:14:11 data visualisations that use way too much vertical space is kind of a pet peeve of mine :P 21:15:44 the modern web must be a white spacious hellscape to you 21:16:26 03gammafunk02 07* 0.19-a0-27-g415f530: Record more chunk and nutrition details in the monster objstat table 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 20+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/415f53018a3f 21:16:31 -!- owl is now known as read 21:17:12 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.18] * 0.18-b1-16-g289874d: Record more chunk and nutrition details in the monster objstat table 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 20+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/289874da2904 21:19:19 hey you show quit % 21:19:53 it was easy to calculate 21:20:44 Quits: 48 (51.61%) 21:21:16 hrm, the wins by species/race are interesting 21:21:39 probably better than that huge table 21:21:46 although having it not wrap entries would be cool 21:22:29 Maybe a games table like the old display could be added at some point 21:22:31 example? 21:22:48 oh just Mf(1) 21:22:52 I realllly don't like the big grids on cao. They're barely comprehensible. Maybe another 2d visualisation with colour would work though 21:22:56 is what it's doing now in my by species table 21:22:58 ah 21:23:01 yeah it is super big 21:23:02 can fix that 21:23:19 takes up a huge amount of space 21:24:39 chequers: your player links seem to have "scoreboard//" in the urls 21:24:55 still work, of course 21:25:03 overall looks like a really good improvement 21:25:08 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 21:25:26 I guess some things like "most pacific win" etc will be forthcoming 21:25:43 yep, gonna fix the urls 21:25:57 I guess the recent wins summary on the overview, if that's actually worth keeping 21:26:04 most atlantic win 21:26:06 currently we don't have a way to only rewrite changed pages, so running the script start to end takes like 45mins 21:26:06 which I'm not sure it is 21:26:33 gammafunk: sorry what do you mean? 21:26:40 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/overview.html 21:26:59 chequers: that has some nice summary tables of recent games, but again I'm not sure how necessary this is 21:27:12 there are some other good one-off kind of tables, like ghost kills, monster kills 21:27:29 ah yeah 21:27:29 not critical to have at all, just something that could also be done 21:27:38 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:27:48 yeah we'd like more stuff on the front page, the interesting things depend on milestone parsing 21:27:55 nicolae-: most bizarre things put in shops by vault makers!!! 21:28:01 -!- GauHelldragon2 is now known as GauHelldragon 21:28:51 most pacific wins seems boring since the records will never be beaten 21:29:05 well, it seems unlikely, given game changes since 21:29:10 gammafunk: tbh i think the weirdest i've ever actually gotten is the off-brand shop 21:29:23 chequers: well one can do this by version 21:29:27 but i'd really like some of the other funny ones 21:29:35 species/class high scores face a similar problem past 0.17 21:29:36 or the vault i submitted that isn't in yet that places sky beast chunks 21:29:40 http://puu.sh/oBRku/2707d84d5d.png 21:29:58 !lg * x=max(length(name)) 21:30:03 5537119 games for *: max(length(name))=20 21:31:00 nicolae-: I'll count "4 manuals of Polearms" in "Plog's Precious Peculiarities" 21:31:23 so it's like you got infinitely many in when you think about it... 21:31:48 gammafunk: hmm, you think 0.17 will be a particularly high scoring version? 21:32:11 gammafunk: oh, that reminds me, i completely failed to submit my alphashops variant that uses your randomizer to cut down on repeats 21:32:24 Well one of the most notable things is removal of =teleport as an evocable, and teleport is more limited, however more scores will be set in 0.18+ 21:32:36 some will likely never improve though 21:32:43 fair point 21:33:02 one idea I always had was trying to show the scores broken down by version 21:33:08 but this can get pretty complicated 21:33:19 something like showing the range of versions for which a game had a given score 21:33:31 but it's probably wishful thinking 21:33:54 that would be cool 21:34:00 we'd like to add time-period views 21:34:08 "show 0.17 tourney only" "show 0.12 only" 21:34:21 is there a good way to perform a SUBST:, SHUFFLE:, etc. on a vault with subvaults *after* the subvaults are placed in it? or should I just imitate that with lua 21:34:34 some system to see long-standing highscores is a nice idea though 21:34:45 you mean so you don't SUBST/SHUFFLE the contents of the subvaults 21:34:46 ? 21:35:23 i was under the impression that the contents of a subvault wouldn't be affected by later SUBST/SHUFFLEs anyway 21:35:42 no, so I *do* SUBST/SHUFFLE the contents of the subvaults 21:35:47 http://i.imgur.com/XUQT1QQ.png 21:35:49 frostbite tile 21:35:56 http://i.imgur.com/oTHFeHx.png 21:35:59 frostbite doll tile 21:36:02 like I want to place all the subvaults, then SUBST: x : xcvb, so that all walls are either rock, stone, metal, or crystal 21:36:29 it's not hard to make a hack to do it, just wondering if there's a better way 21:36:34 minmay: according to syntax dot txt, "Everything from the subvault cell (feature, items, monsters, properties, markers) overwrite the glyph in the parent map. Once replaced, this cell is immutable and cannot be changed with something like SUBST, MARKER, or KFEAT." 21:36:36 CanOfWorms: it's a nice tile, but I can't say that it's a frosty axe when looking at it 21:36:54 what does it look like? 21:37:08 I guess just a kind of maybe-old exec axe? 21:37:31 maybe not even old, that's just the outline 21:37:32 yeah i like it, but i was thinking more bluish/whitish, and also that it looked somewhat cruder, just a big fuckoff piece of jagged ice on a stick 21:37:44 this reminds me, would it be ok to (a) give frostbite fcloud immunity, (b) backport that to 0.18 21:38:04 wheals: i'm on board with a), i was thinking of getting around to that myself actually 21:38:05 CanOfWorms: something that's really blue or obviously icy would make it more obvious, if that helps 21:38:40 I'm alright with fcloud immunity, maybe see what MPA thinks 21:38:54 doesn't firestarter do this? 21:38:57 ??firestarter 21:38:57 firestarter[1/3]: +7 great mace of flaming; rF++, inner flames what it hits. 21:39:00 http://puu.sh/oBRPq/8a1c38f6e2.png 21:39:01 more like this? 21:39:02 guess not 21:41:22 http://puu.sh/oBRX0/684725bc00.png 21:41:28 slightly different lighting 21:41:54 CanOfWorms: what shade of blue is the blue in freezing clouds? 21:41:55 maybe like a picture of a frost giant in the background flashing a platinum necklace with diamonds spelling ICECOLD would get the point across 21:42:11 fr when wielding frostbite your displayed name is MR COOL ICE 21:42:26 what about that bad guy from the bad Batman movie 21:42:32 MR FREEZE 21:42:52 it should speak with quotes from that movie 21:42:58 that's what the *noise is 21:43:15 when you swing you have an uncontrollable urge to shout ice-based one liners 21:43:23 ICE TO MEET YOU 21:43:29 I'M GOING TO PUT YOU ON ICE 21:43:30 MIND IF I... AXE A QUESTION 21:43:41 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:43:46 http://puu.sh/oBS1C/efb50ce90d.png 21:43:47 WHY THE... FROSTY RECEPTION 21:43:52 anyway that's the freezing cloud tile 21:44:12 hmm I should steal the colours from ice blocks/statues 21:44:14 and simulacs 21:44:47 should be spelt "Frostbyte" 21:44:47 also: if possible without making it look corny, would it be possible to have little blue sparkles like mini freezing clouds around the blade 21:45:32 http://puu.sh/oBSah/536a6b6903.png 21:45:43 yeah! 21:45:49 probably not, I tried that with azure jellies a while back :v 21:45:57 fair enough 21:47:02 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:47:04 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 21:47:27 i like that color palette though 21:48:08 adding some icicles would probably communicate its iciness 21:48:11 although it already looks icy to me 21:48:25 icicles might be a little on the nose, yeah 21:48:53 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:49:24 http://i.imgur.com/hsSL7z1.png 21:49:30 http://i.imgur.com/GpXkaAt.png 21:52:01 i like the colors. would it be possible for it to have a different silhouette than a regular executioner's axe? just to differentiate it a little more. 21:52:25 also feel free to tell me to pound sand if i keep making suggestions 21:52:38 how much does {etheric cage} multiply contam by? 21:53:07 it has a slightly different silhoulette from standard exec axes 21:53:15 ah, k 21:53:48 http://puu.sh/oBSCY/9ae88b868c.png 21:53:51 here's a side by side 21:54:00 !source _ETHERIC_CAGE_world_reacts 21:54:00 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/art-func.h#l1333 21:54:02 read: ^ 21:54:14 ah, cool! thanks CanOfWorms, for your tile making :) 21:54:14 oh, actually nvm 21:54:33 !source contaminate_player 21:54:33 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/player.cc#l4291 21:54:34 nevermind, found it. 21:54:41 change *= 2; 21:54:45 thanks :) 21:57:46 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:57:57 I've just entered a level with both an ice cave and a volcano. 21:58:39 I don't like two timed vaults on the same level 21:59:28 that reminds me, the shortening of portal vault timers really increased the power spiral problem with portal vaults 22:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:11 most characters can actually do portal vaults at their earliest depth but some characters can't actually *reach* portal vaults at early depths 22:00:19 before the timer is up 22:02:12 wizlabs are way too late in the game to suffer from this, but that isn't the case for the rest 22:02:26 Will a save with those two be useful? If so - how do I make a save on cxc? 22:03:30 imo, reaching is easy even on early levels as long as you have magic mapping 22:04:02 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:04:15 getting two portals on a level is normal 22:05:31 But frustrating nonetheless. 22:05:46 Okay, anyway thanks for confirmation! 22:05:48 moxian: a save for those two won't be useful because two portal vaults generating on the same level is not a bug 22:25:34 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:26:05 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:26:57 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:28:17 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 22:32:51 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 22:45:59 -!- packet_loss has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:49:32 Update to alphashops.des to use a different way of choosing items 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10388 by nicolae 22:54:15 -!- MagicLamp has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:59:47 The message for removing stuff from shopping list upon item identification is in wrong order. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10389 by moxian 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:15:26 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 23:16:09 hey folks, im reading something in item-use.cc (line static bool _get_item_list(int type_expect) which is called by drink 23:16:31 drink calls it via: _get_item_list(OBJ_POTIONS); 23:16:43 i don't understand what is the point of a bool there? 23:16:58 it doesnt store the value, and it doesn't do anything with the return 23:18:40 oh nevermind i misread something 23:19:11 let's just forget my last 5 lines 23:19:18 move along, nothing to see here 23:30:01 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:38:46 -!- noobcanoe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:46:36 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:47:03 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:53:07 -!- Yermak has joined ##crawl-dev 23:56:13 Apportation targetting 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10390 by Yermak 23:57:51 does ToggleableMenu only allow the acts of ACT_EXECUTE or ACT_EXAMINE? 23:57:58 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:59:51 -!- WhiteShark has quit [Quit: Page closed]