00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:06 Stable (0.18) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-b1-10-g3f7de93 00:04:54 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:05:56 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:07:17 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:19:39 ontoclasm: i really dislike the outlines of the second, and I think the third is really nice looking 00:20:47 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:21:15 is the source a vector? could you make a version 225px high? 00:21:33 and yeah, i prefer the original colours, but that might just be resistance to change 00:21:51 I now prefer this logo to the old dcss one after never liking it until I forced myself to use it for the site :D 00:28:15 -!- MagicLamp has quit [Quit: -a- IRC for Android 2.1.20] 00:30:39 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 00:30:49 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:33:51 -!- mibe_ is now known as mibe 00:41:13 -!- noobcanoe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:45:09 chequers: not a vecotr, sadly 00:45:12 i should do that 00:45:24 it's actually pixel art, though it doesn't look like it 00:47:20 chequers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/logotype/logotype-light3.png 00:47:36 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:47:37 has the normal yellow, if you think that's better 00:48:09 -!- Zeor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:53:53 CanOfWorms: new tzitz tile would be great, yeah 00:56:27 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:57:06 ontoclasm: those urls will stick around for a while right? 00:57:46 ontoclasm: also, do you prefer the new more orangey colour? 00:57:53 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:59:03 -!- Zeor has quit [Client Quit] 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:02:00 -!- tollymain has joined ##crawl-dev 01:03:09 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 01:04:04 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:07:58 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:11:59 -!- Alat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:12:13 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 01:16:17 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-14-gde87d98 (34) 01:17:33 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:21:20 -!- Arglure has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:21:36 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:25:21 chequers: yeah, they'll stay 01:25:43 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:25:47 and i prefer the yellow version; i made it more orange in hopes it'd be easier to see, but if the yellow works, then that's what i'd go with 01:32:45 -!- FireSight has quit [] 01:36:11 -!- Fandango_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:36:33 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:37:32 -!- Fandango_ has quit [Client Quit] 01:42:49 i think the Dungeon Crawl is easy to see, but the Stone Soup is hard 01:43:01 -!- Idolo has quit [] 01:51:05 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 01:55:36 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-14-gde87d98 01:58:21 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:02:22 Stable (0.18) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-b1-10-g3f7de93 02:19:34 -!- Zibudo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:24:08 making themed vaults, what are some good words ending in "ock" 02:24:56 so far i have minmay_shoctagon (elec stuff), minmay_roctagon (earth stuff), minmay_coctagon (ice stuff), and minmay_cocktagon (just an octagon with a lot of giant cockroaches in it) 02:26:44 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:27:36 stock 02:27:42 block 02:27:47 mock 02:27:59 tick tock? 02:28:00 oh, i already have bloctagon actually 02:28:12 and ticktoctagon, which has a chei altar, but i don't think i'm gonna finish that one because slow monster suck 02:28:18 dang 02:28:21 dock 02:28:28 water sucks too tho 02:28:40 lock? 02:28:42 maybe it's a spaceship dock 02:28:45 wok 02:28:50 ??nemelex wrath 02:28:50 nemelex xobeh wrath[1/1]: Two stages. You are forced to draw from the {deck of punishment}; and any cards which you have stacked are randomly shuffled. Drawing from decks at any point could also mean you have to draw from the deck of punishment. Marked cards are 3 times more likely to be swapped for punishment cards. 02:29:01 gawk 02:29:11 it seems bad that using an identify scroll on a deck is actively bad if you are under nemelex penance 02:29:15 jock 02:29:27 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 02:29:55 what would gawctagon be like, just a bunch of nude species monsters behind glass? 02:30:02 eyeballs 02:30:09 huh, that would work i guess 02:30:20 thank you for your contributions 02:30:28 you're welcome 02:30:44 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 02:32:52 floctagon (shrikes) 02:34:31 -!- Shasbat has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:38:03 knock 02:38:34 a bunch of doors i guess 02:41:04 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:41:22 -!- FailInc has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:42:16 kocktagon, a bunch of kobolds with daggers of chaos - oh wait that vault already exists 02:45:18 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:45:21 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:46:39 -!- eb has quit [] 02:47:28 awktagon 02:49:19 thats a bit advanced for me, i'll start with sedtagon 02:50:00 have you made a hexagon? 02:51:47 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-14-gde87d98 02:52:09 I've made a lot of hexagons 02:52:31 this is going to end with you saying "sexagon" isn't it 02:52:46 although, it should be noted that regular hexagons are not really possible on crawl's grid 02:52:57 yet another thing switching to a hexagonal grid would fix!!!!! 02:56:55 -!- Alcopop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:03:51 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:07:34 -!- Twinge has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:08:52 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 03:09:31 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:11:05 Stable (0.18) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-b1-10-g3f7de93 03:12:24 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-14-gde87d98 (34) 03:13:55 !source player_stat_modify_damage 03:13:56 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/attack.cc#l1198 03:14:02 !source player_aux_stat_modify_damage 03:14:02 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/melee_attack.cc#l1440 03:14:24 there are a couple things that confuse me about this pair of functions 03:14:48 1. why does player_stat_modify_damage have a blind spot between 9 and 11 str, but not player_aux_stat_modify_damage 03:14:58 2. why is the dammod thing even still there 03:15:25 er, excuse me, never mind 2 03:16:25 2. why is a different dammod value used for the two when they produce almost the same result due to player_stat_modify_damage multiplying the strength bonus by 2 03:24:15 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:25:53 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:28:46 afaict the answer is "historical reasons" 03:28:56 and nobody is super keen to change it 03:29:32 I made a thread on GDD a while back listing everywhere that stats were used in the codebase, and discussion in here coming out of it was that changing these equations was in the "too hard" basket 03:39:27 minmay: I was actually wondering if you made a octagon with hexing monsters and called it hexagon 03:41:12 -!- svendre has joined ##crawl-dev 03:44:36 CanOfWorms: oh, I did not 03:48:45 !messages 03:48:45 No messages for TZer0. 03:48:47 Good. 03:51:10 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:54:03 1tell TZer0 Server's on fire, nbd I'm dousing it with water 03:55:38 AAAAAAA 03:56:02 http://underhound.eu/tzer0/public_www/renoise/temp/Feelings.mp3 03:56:09 I kind of doubt it is on fire 03:56:12 I managed to request a file from it 03:56:14 :D 03:56:28 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 03:57:19 TZer0: the track is nice 03:57:24 gammafunk: :) 03:57:43 chequers: http://pastebin.com/gavbX2q2 03:57:52 I should make a "Crawl admin remixes" playlist for twitch 03:58:07 hah, that's not a remix 03:58:09 :P 03:58:26 yeah Crawl Admin Music then 03:58:33 http://underhound.eu/tzer0/public_www/renoise/temp/Jazztime.mp3 03:58:39 I need to "release" this one 03:59:11 chequers: when you consider the low base damage on aux attacks the two functions are practically the same, except maybe at absurd strength values 03:59:23 8-bit drums and piano 03:59:27 because why not. 03:59:29 :D 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:02:18 that reminds me I have an old song I need to finish 04:05:22 minmay: are you on Steam? 04:09:17 i have a steam account why do you ask 04:09:37 if you're going to send me shite make sure it's on minqmay and not minmay, i dont know who the minmay on steam is but it is not me 04:12:01 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:12:14 okay 04:12:37 also i never log in so just tell me what you're doing 04:12:58 oh, I just like sending people (and receiving) music-stuff. 04:13:24 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:13:25 but we can always do that here 04:13:34 so people can see how bad I am or something. 04:17:53 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 04:19:31 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 04:32:49 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 04:34:01 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:40:51 -!- svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:42:53 -!- svendre has joined ##crawl-dev 04:49:48 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:56:57 !tell |amethyst I've generated a sample of DEF_BITFIELD pre-processed captured with /P switch from delay.cc (including enum.h), the data is here: http://pastebin.com/KaFzkL9P (line numbers messages can be disabled) 04:56:58 svendre: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 04:59:47 <|amethyst> svendre: I see the problem now 04:59:47 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 04:59:49 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00:43 <|amethyst> svendre: it's getting confused by the variadic macro 05:00:48 <|amethyst> inline constexpr mon_spell_slot_flags operator|(mon_spell_slot_flag, 11 a, mon_spell_slot_flag, 11 b) { return mon_spell_slot_flags(a) | b; } 05:00:55 <|amethyst> that 11 should not be there 05:01:42 <|amethyst> I guess it's because of MSVC's poor support for C99 05:01:51 yeah it's only partial 05:01:53 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:02:27 <|amethyst> Specifically this line: 05:02:32 <|amethyst> DEF_BITFIELD_OPERATORS(fieldT, __VA_ARGS__, ) 05:02:54 <|amethyst> it's treating __VA_ARGS__ as a single argument to DEF_BITFIELD_OPERATORS 05:03:13 <|amethyst> while really I want that to expand into as many arguments as are covered in the ... 05:03:19 <|amethyst> s/in the/by the/ 05:03:52 besides the compilation, I've been reading up on the complications of debugging introduced as well 05:03:54 <|amethyst> I wonder 05:04:08 <|amethyst> what happens if you remove that comma after __VA_ARGS__ ? 05:04:14 this macro only seems to be called in a limited number of places 05:04:28 I'll try it 05:07:33 stii: expected a type specifier, also further down cannot convert from 'int' to 'enum_bitfield ah, same problem them 05:07:51 ^still, look about the same 05:10:59 by the way there's a comment in AppHdr.h, don't know if it's applying anywhere or not but it says 05:11:12 butterflies are not supposed to change colour every frame are they 05:11:34 <|amethyst> minmay: they are now 05:11:38 <|amethyst> minmay: they have ETC_JEWEL 05:11:49 that is rather bad when there are other monsters on b 05:11:51 MSVC imposes some annoying restrictions on precompiled headers: the precompiled header *must* be the first include in all cc files. Any includes or other statements that occur before the pch include are ignored. This is really stupid and can lead to bizarre errors 05:12:42 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:12:43 <|amethyst> svendre: yeah, I don't know if anyone has actually tested PCH compiles in a long time 05:13:05 I'm not sure why that caught my attention, but I think I recall reading something pertaining to that and macros 05:15:21 |amethyst: what seems to be consistent is that in the code which follows the macro, it's always complaining that no suitable constructors exist to convert int to enum_bitfield 05:15:28 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:16:20 a number of items in msvc.h were broken (I've removed or fixed most of them) 05:16:33 <|amethyst> svendre: re the __VA_ARGS__ problem 05:16:37 <|amethyst> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5134523/msvc-doesnt-expand-va-args-correctly 05:17:13 <|amethyst> so what if you change DEF_BITFIELD to something like 05:17:19 <|amethyst> #define EXPAND(x) x 05:17:33 <|amethyst> #define DEF_BITFIELD(fieldT, ...) \ 05:17:38 <|amethyst> typedef enum_bitfield<__VA_ARGS__> fieldT; \ 05:17:44 <|amethyst> EXPAND(DEF_BITFIELD_OPERATORS(fieldT, __VA_ARGS__, )) 05:18:46 at the bottom is says the support was added (more) but.. BTW, you will need to use a .cpp suffix to your source file to get this support. 05:19:11 that would be really lame, I'm pretty sure though that it understands .cc are the same as .cpp now 05:19:29 I'll try it 05:19:29 <|amethyst> I think that just means that you can't use __VA_ARGS__ in C at all 05:24:47 |amethyst: that appears to have cleared up a metric shit ton of errors, now only 14 compile errors total down from 30/40 05:24:53 <|amethyst> svendre: woo! 05:25:09 <|amethyst> I'll push that then (after making sure it doesn't break gcc) 05:25:23 only problem now is in monster.h, spel-util.h and (mysteriously cinttypes) 05:25:54 with cinttypes, I think it's some kind of weird global namespace matter 05:27:30 in mon-info.h it doesn't like "function".... function is not a template 05:27:32 typedef function (const monster_info& mi)> (desc_filter); 05:28:39 in spl-util.h it looks to be a similar line with the same complaint "function is note a template" 05:28:40 typedef function cell_func; 05:29:02 <|amethyst> both of those headers need to #include 05:30:05 <|amethyst> minmay: I don't think it's any worse than chaos spawn existing at the same time as other 3s 05:30:28 <|amethyst> or golden eyes vs eyes of devastation 05:30:39 they must include functional, is that some type of inside joke there 05:30:48 <|amethyst> svendre: :P 05:31:04 <|amethyst> svendre: the function<> template comes from the header of course :) 05:31:35 <|amethyst> probably libstdc++ and libc++ happen to pull that in from some other header that is included 05:32:30 ok those problems are fixed, looks like down to ONE LAST set of errors before I can debug 05:32:36 this business with cinttypes 05:32:47 <|amethyst> what are the errors? 05:34:31 -!- svendre_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:35:25 http://pastebin.com/24NZJhaq 05:37:11 -!- svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:37:16 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:37:17 not surprisingly there are defines here too 05:37:55 imaxabs defines as "#define imaxabs _abs64" 05:38:23 strtoimax defines as "#define strtoimax _strtoi64" 05:39:11 and lastly, wcstoimax shows "#define wcstoimax _wcstoi64" .... basically matching the errors 05:39:33 <|amethyst> none of which we use of course 05:39:36 (well almost, it's really only mad with the first two) 05:39:43 Perhaps the problem is that it doesn't like how c and c++ headers are mixed 05:40:19 <|amethyst> yeah, I wonder 05:40:40 -!- Patashu has quit [Changing host] 05:40:40 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 05:40:51 <|amethyst> does it help to change into 05:40:54 <|amethyst> though 05:41:00 '_abs64': symbol cannot be used in a using-declaration 05:41:13 <|amethyst> (err, in AppHdr.h I mean) 05:41:37 <|amethyst> svendre_: alternatively, what if you #include instead of cinttypes ? 05:42:07 -!- svendre_ is now known as svendre 05:43:16 there's one other thing I should point out, may not be related but 05:43:27 you see the section in AppHdr where it says: 05:44:56 // Solaris libc has ambiguous overloads for float, double, long float, so // we need to upgrade ints explicitly: 05:45:43 just fyi, there's a similar section (or was) in msvc.h, which instead of functioning like the solaris bit there was failing due to ambiguous overloads, I currently have it commented (one of the overloads) 05:46:53 Well, workarounds for old msvc might or might not apply to newer ones 05:47:04 <|amethyst> yeah, feel free to change anything at all in msvc.h 05:48:10 <|amethyst> or wipe it out and start over :) 05:48:21 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:48:25 03|amethyst02 07* 0.19-a0-15-gde8992a: Fix three-argument DEF_BITFIELD for MSVC (svendre) 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/de8992abcc2e 05:48:25 03|amethyst02 07* 0.19-a0-16-g2b77abf: Avoid an uninitialized variable warning. 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2b77abf2bd67 05:52:57 |amethyst: changing into (in AppHdr.h) does not appear to affect the errors (or generate any new ones) in any manner 05:54:40 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:56:38 <|amethyst> figured 05:57:14 <|amethyst> what about cinttypes -> inttypes.h in externs.h? Not even sure if inttypes.h exists on MSVC though 05:57:26 removing and replacing it with (in externs.h, the only place I could find the include) generates 5,754 errors 05:58:04 Well that's because crawl accesses those types without a namespace 05:58:33 <|amethyst> Zaba: ? 05:59:01 Doesn't cinttypes put them in the std namespace? 05:59:51 -!- shnurlf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:59:57 <|amethyst> Zaba: yes 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:30 <|amethyst> Zaba: inttypes.h should put them in std and in the global namespace.... but maybe that rule is only there for the headers that were in C89 06:00:33 So at least one would need to add some 'using' declarations after the include to make existing code work 06:00:51 <|amethyst> Zaba: we using namespace std; in apphdr.h 06:00:54 Ah 06:00:57 Right 06:01:05 <|amethyst> Zaba: but that doesn't explain why changing from to causes so many problems 06:01:14 Hmm, then I wonder what's wrong 06:01:22 <|amethyst> I imagine it's that MSVC's is an older version 06:01:24 Perhaps something with the other headers they pull in 06:01:29 <|amethyst> the weird thing here 06:01:32 Hmm 06:02:02 <|amethyst> I wonder 06:03:08 I can confirm, does exist 06:04:54 <|amethyst> No clue, other than that our AppHdr.h does some weird stuff 06:04:59 <|amethyst> namespace std {} 06:04:59 <|amethyst> using namespace std; 06:05:35 <|amethyst> I guess that first line is because we have not yet included any actual C++ headers (just ), so namespace std might not exist 06:05:50 <|amethyst> but I wonder if that is causing problems 06:07:25 rebuilt everything, 6 errors (just lines 22 and 23 of cinttypes) 06:08:11 '_abs64': is not a member of '`global namespace" 06:08:24 "_abs64': symbol cannot be used in a using-declaration 06:08:26 <|amethyst> I guess try making a small program that does just using namespace std; #include 06:08:32 <|amethyst> that should work 06:08:36 '_strtoi64': is not a member of global namespace 06:09:01 <|amethyst> then try adding lines from apphdr.h until it fails maybe 06:09:06 <|amethyst> trying to get this to a minimal example 06:10:38 <|amethyst> ohh 06:10:50 -!- edsrzf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:10:51 <|amethyst> are you compiling as 32-bit? 06:11:47 -!- tollymain has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:11:51 <|amethyst> hm, no, that shouldn't matter 06:12:01 yes 32 bit 06:12:46 I have made all the flavours of the lib files yet, but I planned to build both after I got past the basic stuff 06:12:51 er, haven't 06:13:27 even if it compiles, it might still crash :D 06:14:33 <|amethyst> Does compiling a hello-world program with #include work? 06:14:55 <|amethyst> at least a few people have reported a similar problem, and reinstalling Visual Studio fixed it 06:15:21 <|amethyst> though that was an older version of VS 06:15:31 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:15:43 <|amethyst> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6011470/ 06:15:56 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest62856 06:17:15 -!- NotKat has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:18:22 |amethyst: new blank project with one header.h file, with using namespace std; #include has no problem compiling 06:18:22 -!- Fandango_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:18:32 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:18:54 <|amethyst> hrm 06:22:00 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:22:18 _CSTD shows as "#define _CSTD ::" 06:22:44 then imaxabs is "#define imaxabs _abs64" 06:23:06 and I guess it's bitching that imaxabs isn't a member of the global namespace 06:23:46 <|amethyst> my guess is that _abs64 just isn't being defined at all, but that's MS-specific I have no idea where it's supposed to come from 06:24:02 it's calling it a symbol also and saying that it cannot be used in a using-declaration 06:25:09 so can we just create those two items in the global namespace, then see what happens? 06:25:28 <|amethyst> err 06:25:39 <|amethyst> you'd have to define them correctly 06:25:54 <|amethyst> these are MS-internal things that should be there 06:26:05 <|amethyst> the question is, why don't they exist 06:26:38 then, logically the answer can only be with externs.h 06:26:46 <|amethyst> ? 06:26:58 it's the only thing including this file 06:27:21 other example (which was simple) didn't generate these errors, same compiler 06:27:21 -!- Raurakos has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:27:27 <|amethyst> the error could be with some different compiler flag that is causing it to exclude 64-bit functions 06:27:38 so what is it with externs.h including it, that it is unhappy 06:28:02 could there be some overlapping defines 06:28:12 <|amethyst> or it could be with some macro defined in another header file that is....yes that 06:28:32 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 06:28:41 <|amethyst> I would recommend trying to find where _abs64 and _strtoi64 are supposed to be declared (in the MS header files) 06:28:56 I'm a bit fuzzy on that, but when I was looking at a bunch of searching pertaining to this file and these messages, I did come across macro definitions as a culprit 06:28:58 <|amethyst> and trying to figure out from there why they aren't 06:29:07 <|amethyst> by looking at surrounding #ifdefs etc 06:29:08 I just can't remember the details of what I saw, I moved onto something else 06:30:28 lol, what if we make a writable copy of cinttypes - and change it around 06:30:37 and then include the modified version instead 06:31:04 you could at least rule some things out 06:31:05 <|amethyst> then it won't work right with the next version of Visual Studio 06:31:12 <|amethyst> oh 06:31:14 <|amethyst> for testing, sure 06:31:21 I just meant as a test to narrow down the problem 06:31:29 -!- Guest62856 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:31:47 <|amethyst> yeah, sounds reasonable 06:32:25 figures, there would be one last $hitty thing preventing getting to debug status 06:33:05 I'm going to try some stuff, if you get an idea or whatever, just let me know (afkish) 06:34:08 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:34:40 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:40:07 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:48:44 -!- packet_loss has quit [] 06:53:33 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:53:36 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 06:58:00 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:01:42 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 07:14:05 -!- jerkstore has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:14:16 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:36:05 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:44:11 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:44:32 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:46:56 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:49:58 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:52:54 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:56:14 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 07:58:07 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Client Quit] 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00:25 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:02:04 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:04:09 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:05:04 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:06:11 -!- Doll has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 08:10:27 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:20:09 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:23:44 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:26:50 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:27:01 -!- noobcanoe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:29:40 -!- kuniqs_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:35:56 -!- kuniqs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:37:56 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:55:20 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:58:51 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:14:48 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:15:33 -!- noobcanoe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:18:52 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:26:43 -!- Nyvrem has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:34:03 -!- Doll has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:36:20 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 09:40:04 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:47:22 !tell |amethyst about that griefing-incident - can you send me the details? 09:47:22 TZer0: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 09:54:20 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 09:55:35 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:55:45 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:07:30 <|amethyst> TZer0: here? 10:07:30 |amethyst: You have 5 messages. Use !messages to read them. 10:10:07 yes!!!! 10:10:17 finally, getting somewhere 10:10:21 <|amethyst> oh? 10:10:27 yeah I had a breakthrough 10:10:45 so here's what was going on: 10:11:38 there were a bunch of copies of inttypes.h, like in source/MSVC, source/MSVC/include etc.. 10:12:03 <|amethyst> ohhhh 10:12:06 (among other things) - I haven't sorted out exactly which includes to keep or not yet 10:12:25 but some of them were old files, downloaded somewhere attempting C99 compat. 10:12:50 and that they were in directories that were specified to include for loading header files 10:13:04 <|amethyst> unistd.h dirent.h getopt.h and sys/ you're still likely to need 10:13:13 meant that they were always taking precedence over the current default inttypes.h, which when I finally got it pointing to it, didn't cause those errors 10:13:18 yeah 10:13:31 <|amethyst> but try getting rid of both copies of inttypes and stdint since you're using a more modern Visual Studio 10:13:36 I just pulled the whole include dir, I can see which stuff is actually needed... what threw me is the include directories were like 10:13:54 <|amethyst> those were probably intended for VS 2005 or 2008 or so 10:13:55 ./include;./.;./../.. etc 10:14:03 and it's copied in multiple directories 10:14:26 so deleting include files - it was STILL using the old inttypes.h 10:14:49 <|amethyst> yeah, that's kind of weird that it's in two places 10:14:55 anyways, so I'm pretty sure, now I might have new errors to fix - maybe, maybe not I'll see once i finish unscrewing those headers 10:15:14 I'm going to remove all duplicated references, but just keep the MSCV/include dir 10:15:21 <|amethyst> cool 10:15:32 <|amethyst> and removing inttypes.h and stdint.h from there too 10:15:43 anyhow - I noticed it looking at the external references from the test project I created from clean 10:15:43 <|amethyst> since C++11 support should remove the need for those 10:16:05 yeah 10:16:26 I have yet to find out what bag of fun awaits once I get the proper headers in with the real code, but hopefully it isn't bad 10:16:44 at least I'm not stuck now 10:16:55 <|amethyst> oh, I wonder 10:17:03 <|amethyst> have you gutted msvc.h yet? 10:17:12 modded, not gutted 10:17:15 <|amethyst> ok 10:17:18 <|amethyst> this in particular: 10:17:19 |amethyst: yeah 10:17:21 I had to change some things which were causing problems 10:17:22 <|amethyst> #define strtoll _strtoi64 10:17:29 <|amethyst> has me slightly worried 10:17:42 I've read up on that, it's a good thing to have 10:17:47 <|amethyst> ok 10:17:49 |amethyst: you could just send it on PM 10:17:51 the snprintf stuff was really the big pile of shit 10:17:51 whenever you have time 10:18:09 and the ambiguous overload thing, I fixed 10:19:36 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:23:26 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 10:24:45 -!- ystael has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:26:15 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 10:28:52 -!- johnny0_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:29:29 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:30:45 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:31:22 -!- glaas has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:32:37 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:33:10 -!- Dracunos has quit [*.net *.split] 10:33:10 -!- Twinge has quit [*.net *.split] 10:33:10 -!- spring_break_08 has quit [*.net *.split] 10:33:10 -!- PsyMar has quit [*.net *.split] 10:33:11 -!- Lantell has quit [*.net *.split] 10:33:11 -!- Zaba has quit [*.net *.split] 10:33:12 -!- gressup has quit [*.net *.split] 10:33:12 -!- yaknyasn has quit [*.net *.split] 10:33:12 -!- johnny0 has quit [*.net *.split] 10:33:12 -!- Lohengramm has quit [*.net *.split] 10:36:58 97 errors, I can see SDL will need some more work, several others in fixedvector appear obviously related to one of the overloads I commented out in MSVC.h 10:37:05 -!- Dracunos is now known as 16WAAEN2T 10:37:10 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 10:37:10 -!- Lantell has joined ##crawl-dev 10:37:39 I don't think it's as bad as it sounds (97) since the errors are probably clumped around a smaller number of issues 10:37:53 no more nonsense about cinttypes 10:40:30 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:38 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:42:33 this here is the problem: static inline double pow(int x, int y) { return pow((double)x, y); } 10:43:40 what I need is a debug in g++ to see what assumption it's making with regard to those overloads, so a non-ambiguous implementation can be put in place instead, unless there is some other easier work-around, but I think if there is, it would be hacky at best 10:44:46 if I leave it in, it goes nowhere past that, if I take it out, it generates about at least I am guessing 30-50 errors elsewhere throughout the files 10:45:14 so is there a pow(double,int)? 10:45:27 if you look at mscv.h 10:46:01 yeah there's another version (so the combination of this + the other becomes ambiguous) 10:46:51 i thought the default one is pow(double,double) 10:46:52 this is the first overload: static inline double pow(int x, double y) { return pow((double)x, y);} 10:47:56 there are a total of two pow( 10:48:00 well that turns it into double,double atleatst 10:48:11 1st: static inline double pow(int x, double y) { return pow((double)x, y);} 10:48:24 2nd: static inline double pow(int x, int y) { return pow((double)x, y); } 10:48:42 cast y as double in the 2nd one 10:48:48 -!- Lohengramm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:48:54 MSCV completely refuses to make an assumption what to do there 10:49:09 pretty sure I tried that earlier, I'll try again 10:49:46 oh it doesnt understand which to choose if i write pow(1,1) ? 10:49:49 you are suggesting: static inline double pow(int x, int y) { return pow((double)x, (double)y); } ? 10:49:53 yes 10:50:29 I don't recall all the scenarios, I think things like unsigned ints/signed ints fall into these categories 10:50:40 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 10:50:59 whenever it has to make an implicit conversion and it could go multiple ways 10:51:08 ah okey 10:51:24 so just define one for every possible permutation ;) 10:51:44 -!- kuniqs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:52:20 the hacky plan I had was like include to get std::pow and qualify as std::pow. you could put your own functions in a namespace and qualify ::pow to pick the one from math.h 10:52:39 #include "math.h" namespace nn { void pow(int, int) { ::pow(0, 1); } } or so 10:52:53 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 10:52:54 yeah it says cmath has the permutations 10:53:05 so it would be to include cmath and remove both 10:54:45 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:54:55 doable with #ifdefs 10:55:59 well it does compile with y cast as a double 10:56:25 still 97 compile errors still, it's possible they aren't related - same # of errors as when I had that second overload commented out 10:57:35 here's the bunch of them if you're curious: http://pastebin.com/fS9VWyD6 10:57:45 svendre, yeah because if y ou dont cast that as double it would have to go to another overload 10:58:03 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 10:58:06 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:58:25 I wonder, has anyone tried compiling in clang++? 10:58:50 might not be a bad way to look for bugs, trying different code analysis versions - despite maybe having to fix some compiler related things 10:59:06 -!- ystael has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:59:20 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01:12 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 11:01:22 -!- thetao has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:01:29 what happends if you just remove msvc.h? 11:01:36 like the include 11:01:39 If you see anything in there you might know how to fix, ^^ I'm all ears :D 11:01:55 I'll try it 11:03:08 I could just comment it out in AppHdr.h (the only place it's called) 11:04:16 if I do that, it immediately fails at store.h line 72, doesn't get past 3 errors and it aborts 11:04:31 but what are the errors 11:04:39 invalid combination of type specifiers 11:04:42 i woant to knwo what is needed from msvc.h 11:04:51 int64_t followed by _int64 is illegal did you forget a ; ? 11:05:10 well this didn't seem like all the errors, it stopped prematurely 11:05:44 http://pastebin.com/fS9VWyD6 11:05:47 oops 11:05:48 http://pastebin.com/T0Uze2DQ 11:05:49 sry 11:06:04 ^^ that is the output with msvc.h commented out in AppHdr.h 11:06:50 hmm, this is me trial and erroring only, but what if... you include it again 11:07:12 and in msvc.h you remove lines 15 to 87 11:07:45 because cmath shouldd be included right? 11:07:55 maybe start at 17 11:07:56 -!- Tewi has quit [Client Quit] 11:08:25 feel free to put up a version of mscv.h as you are describing 11:08:34 my line numbers aren't the same as your anymore 11:09:18 http://rextester.com/l/cpp_online_compiler_visual 11:11:29 http://rextester.com/live/KPCXF11799 11:11:37 -!- Franz__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:11:51 this is an interesting project 11:12:05 have read you dealing with it and it sounds real fun 11:12:11 but tough 11:13:03 yeah I've looked into it 11:13:24 I haven't been coding for several years, so I walked into a big project overall - getting back up to speed quickly on this though lol 11:14:01 -!- 16WAAEN2T is now known as Dracunos 11:14:09 I originally started by looking at notes.cc for a simple re-write but I didn't want to start in an IDE I didn't already have some familiarity with (and debugging) one thing lead to another 11:15:08 see my annotations 11:15:11 the <<<<<-------- 11:15:16 its the remove here 11:15:31 so 11:15:32 there 11:15:37 wow I can watch you editing in realtime there 11:15:41 yeah 11:15:42 cool 11:15:47 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:16:23 yeah i dont really develop on windows, but would be cool to get it working either way 11:17:45 you removed the code on rex? 11:17:59 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:17:59 I was going to paste out of it, but now it's just got the top part showing? 11:18:19 yeah its now one of the versions i ment 11:18:44 fr: stupid remove 11:18:51 haha 11:19:23 are you saying what you have there, try that only... minimal? 11:19:27 what is selected at present? 11:19:35 yeah 11:19:44 i just want to see the errors 11:19:57 k 11:21:01 myabe that too 11:21:04 try that instead 11:21:13 i dont knwo how long the compile time is 11:22:31 -!- ystael has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:23:04 faster than pastebin 11:23:40 108 errors, the output this time did not fit 11:23:40 are you using VS2015? 11:23:43 yes 11:23:57 recent fresh download as of a few days ago, all updates 11:24:13 ill dl it too :D 11:24:33 my stupid experimenting is just slowing you down ;) 11:24:38 yeah exceeds pastebin limit 11:24:42 haha 11:25:19 try this version 11:25:56 oh nvm dont 11:26:16 restore to your old msvc.h :D 11:26:39 this line has to come out: #define snprintf _snprintf 11:27:06 there is no _snprintf? 11:27:19 in one of the base libraries, there's a section which forces an error if you redefine snprintf 11:27:34 oh 11:27:38 with a nice little message slapping you on the wrist for trying it 11:27:50 well this file was last edited 2013 11:27:55 it's defined there they don't want you to redefine it 11:28:14 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 11:28:39 how about this, the idea about cmath 11:28:39 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 11:28:54 if we can just have a version which maybe deals with those two overloads 11:29:00 that would be ideal and help the most 11:29:03 yeah i think cmath is the best course of action, and remove the overloads 11:29:40 for prettymuch all the overloads except log2 which might be a real function 11:29:49 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:29:54 oh and round 11:30:14 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 11:30:15 sqrt atan and pow can go 11:30:29 with cmath i think 11:30:40 atan isn't even a problem 11:30:48 or sqrt, only pow 11:31:48 yeah but if you add cmath you wouldnt need those overloads i think 11:33:00 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 11:34:16 that's what I could use help with, the actual implementation of that plan 11:34:28 if you throw something like that up, I can figure out how to merge it in and try it 11:34:52 from the original file, I know what's changed since then 11:35:49 could you push your changes to a github fork i can clone? 11:36:44 err 11:36:50 i did download vs2015 11:37:18 yeah I suppose I could, I guess you'd pick up the settings changes to the solution file as well 11:37:20 -!- dracos369 has quit [Client Quit] 11:37:26 and the rebuilt .lib files 11:37:58 I have a github fork 11:38:04 the name is cailinn 11:38:14 one sec 11:39:51 cool 11:40:01 and yeah i would pick up all your changes i guess 11:40:10 yikes :D 11:40:40 it wasn't really um too ready yet, I dunno I suppose it would work though just to synch us 11:40:54 also, disclaimer: im not a crawl developer either, havent really done much more than browse their code 11:41:20 I created a fork from the main crawl - using github, pulled it down, that directory is the one I've changed 11:41:26 I just haven't pushed anything at all back to it yet 11:41:34 so this would be the first push 11:41:57 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 11:41:57 I need to use this Synch button right? 11:41:57 well get it to the state with 97 errors or whatever it was and push that 11:41:59 :D 11:42:04 the one top right? 11:42:24 ive only ever used commandline git 11:42:24 but maybe 11:42:24 says pull changes from and push local on master to the remote ?? 11:42:38 yeah that sounds good 11:42:59 361 changes 11:43:09 pulls any changes from the server (wont be any) and merges with yours and then pushes it back to the server 11:43:44 yeah I haven't updated from crawl/master since I downloaded to local 11:44:15 there are things called commits 11:44:19 that you can do locally 11:44:19 but 11:44:33 to save your changes every few steps 11:44:34 there were new directories created, where the new libs went 11:44:53 I had to recompile zlib, libpng, everything 11:45:07 as long as they are subdirectories, it's going to send everything? 11:45:31 or is it only going to send changes to files I downloaded originally 11:46:00 -!- LexAckson__ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:46:54 as long as you dont add them it will only send changed files 11:46:55 not added 11:47:32 this is my repository: https://github.com/cailinn/crawl 11:47:56 but I won't be able to synch easily then, due to many adds/removals 11:48:35 seriously? that seems like such a pain, it can't auto detect new files and missing ones? 11:49:04 one sec when i fight with visual studio 11:49:18 there were files that needed to be removed as well as added - to get things working 11:49:28 the existence of some files will cause crashes 11:49:43