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(master - fc652ff #5319 : Corin Buchanan-Howland): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/125371222 10:09:04 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 10:13:40 -!- betheynyx has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.1+deb1 - http://znc.in] 10:19:21 -!- } has quit [] 10:19:31 -!- }_ is now known as } 10:23:46 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:42:32 -!- Jessika has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:53:11 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:54:54 -!- grimmulfr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:55:20 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:57:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:58:15 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest43570 11:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01:24 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:07:55 -!- Amadiro has quit [Excess Flood] 11:10:34 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 11:24:23 -!- Jarlyk2 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:27:30 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 11:28:31 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 11:32:27 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:32:33 -!- Guest43570 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:34:52 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.18-a0-1802-g76aef2b: Typo fix 10(7 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/76aef2b9e149 11:43:28 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:43:37 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:47:02 -!- vedrorre has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:59:32 -!- noobcanoe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01:17 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:03:17 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:06:51 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:18:41 -!- gressup has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:22:44 -!- Amadiro has quit [Excess Flood] 12:27:57 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:28:08 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:53 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:54 The build was fixed. (master - 76aef2b #5320 : Chris Campbell): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/125388476 12:28:54 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 12:31:34 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:40:03 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:48:27 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:49:04 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:51:23 -!- TacoSundae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:56:06 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:56:48 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:59:59 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:02:00 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:02:34 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:04:24 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:04:53 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1802-g76aef2b (34) 13:06:28 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1803-ge65acef: Changelog fixes 10(84 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e65acefaa965 13:07:50 -!- Zibudo has joined ##crawl-dev 13:08:00 -!- shnurlf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:11:52 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 13:12:13 -!- Denapoli has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:22:57 pubby end or PleasingFungus end 13:23:02 every. single. time. 13:23:24 probably glitched 13:23:26 (: 13:23:41 !lg * recent orc:2 s=kmap 13:23:42 4253 games for * (recent orc:2): 2168x, 192x uniq_rupert, 148x pubby_orc_utopia, 145x grunt_orc_garden, 132x uniq_snorg, 108x pf_orc_diabolical, 87x grunt_orc_cross, 82x uniq_maud, 82x st_orc_pillars, 77x st_orc_open, 74x st_orc_congregation, 68x uniq_saint_roka, 62x st_orc_ogre_mass, 60x grunt_orc_community_town_hall, 56x grunt_orc_tribal_feast, 56x st_orc_rangers, 47x orc_temple, 44x st_orc_mage... 13:23:47 lmao 13:23:56 !lg * current trunk orc:2 s=kmap 13:24:01 2352 games for * (current trunk orc:2): 1024x, 147x pubby_orc_utopia, 136x grunt_orc_garden, 103x pf_orc_diabolical, 87x grunt_orc_cross, 81x st_orc_pillars, 74x st_orc_open, 73x st_orc_congregation, 67x uniq_saint_roka, 60x st_orc_ogre_mass, 59x grunt_orc_community_town_hall, 55x grunt_orc_tribal_feast, 53x st_orc_rangers, 42x uniq_rupert, 42x st_orc_mages, 38x st_orc_elflike, 28x uniq_azrael, 27... 13:24:06 I really wonder if pubby's end is placing more often than it should because of the fact that it's encompass 13:24:11 seems possible 13:24:14 i remember it was discussed before 13:24:15 although I should run mapstat to see 13:24:24 i want to say some bug was actually found last time 13:24:27 hm 13:24:42 well it can certainly happen naturally since float vault can generate a vetoed level 13:24:54 whereas encompass won't 13:25:09 %git 09c043c89ea98ed0e7c7111661565eeefeba1832 13:25:09 07|amethyst02 * 0.16-a0-3594-g09c043c: Make Orc:$ vaults into primary vaults (Grunt) 10(1 year, 3 months ago, 1 file, 14+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/09c043c89ea9 13:25:26 this is probably what I was thinking of 13:28:48 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest49351 13:28:53 !lg * cv=0.15-a orc:4 s=kmap 13:28:54 1232 games for * (cv=0.15-a orc:4): 443x, 87x grunt_orc_garden, 78x st_orc_congregation, 75x st_orc_pillars, 53x st_orc_open, 52x grunt_orc_community_town_hall, 51x grunt_orc_cross, 49x st_orc_rangers, 47x st_orc_mages, 46x st_orc_town, 39x st_orc_elflike, 37x grunt_orc_tribal_feast, 36x uniq_saint_roka, 31x st_orc_ogre_mass, 28x pubby_orc_utopia, 13x uniq_snorg, 6x uniq_nessos, 5x grunt_orc_commu... 13:29:03 interesting, it was much less common then 13:29:27 ha, orc:$ lethality has doubled 13:29:35 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:29:59 pubby's end also got an overhaul 13:30:04 I think that was in 0.17 13:30:22 I removed a lot of monsters because it placed too many, and many of them 0 that could spawn nasty things 13:31:50 yeah 13:31:57 but you'd think that'd decrease lethality 13:32:15 well you'd have to compare the the version of the change and trunk 13:32:34 tricky, since that was before orc:4 was cut 13:32:42 no it's not hard 13:33:56 !lg * cv=0.17|0.17-a kmap!= s=kmap% 13:34:00 168139 games for * (cv=0.17|0.17-a kmap!=): 16347x uniq_sigmund (9.72%), 10135x uniq_grinder (6.03%), 8826x uniq_robin (5.25%), 6798x uniq_natasha (4.04%), 6148x uniq_crazy_yiuf_cottage (3.66%), 5564x uniq_pikel (3.31%), 5157x uniq_terence (3.07%), 4372x uniq_duvessa (2.60%), 4000x uniq_iyjb (2.38%), 3918x uniq_menkaure (2.33%), 2883x uniq_jessica (1.71%), 2026x uniq_joseph (1.20%), 1893x uniq_pri... 13:34:02 !lg * cv=0.17|0.17-a kmap!= s=kmap% orc:4 13:34:02 3049 games for * (cv=0.17|0.17-a kmap!= orc:4): 318x pubby_orc_utopia (10.43%), 277x grunt_orc_garden (9.08%), 265x pf_orc_diabolical (8.69%), 204x grunt_orc_cross (6.69%), 197x grunt_orc_community_town_hall (6.46%), 188x st_orc_congregation (6.17%), 177x st_orc_pillars (5.81%), 170x st_orc_rangers (5.58%), 167x st_orc_open (5.48%), 163x uniq_saint_roka (5.35%), 117x st_orc_elflike (3.84%), 116x s... 13:34:12 mapstat shows it placing only very roughly 5% of the time 13:34:13 !lg * cv=0.18-a kmap!= s=kmap% orc:2 13:34:14 1356 games for * (cv=0.18-a kmap!= orc:2): 148x pubby_orc_utopia (10.91%), 140x grunt_orc_garden (10.32%), 107x pf_orc_diabolical (7.89%), 87x grunt_orc_cross (6.42%), 82x st_orc_pillars (6.05%), 76x st_orc_open (5.60%), 74x st_orc_congregation (5.46%), 67x uniq_saint_roka (4.94%), 62x st_orc_ogre_mass (4.57%), 60x grunt_orc_community_town_hall (4.42%), 56x grunt_orc_tribal_feast (4.13%), 55x st_o... 13:34:21 yeah, when was that change 13:34:31 whereas grunt_orc_garden places... a third of the time? 13:34:51 %git 96ac4c4e0d02e733dfd7c5dfed7efc08e558149d 13:34:51 07gammafunk02 * 0.17-a0-2007-g96ac4c4: Balance and clean up an Orc end vault 10(7 months ago, 1 file, 78+ 77-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/96ac4c4e0d02 13:34:53 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:35:08 ok so was 0.17 13:35:40 yeah so no change in the % of kills 13:36:17 not too surprising I guess 13:38:18 just moving it to 2 13:38:39 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:38:41 i'm running a 1000-iter mapstat, 100 has too low resolution 13:42:17 -!- Floodkiller has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:43:23 yeah, grunt_orc_garden places about 28% of the time 13:43:25 interesting 13:46:22 probably a bunch of levels are getting vetoed? 13:48:21 doesn't really look like it 13:48:23 tbh 13:48:37 i'm failing to get dpaste working 13:49:02 curl -F content=@mapstat.log http://dpaste.com/api/v2/ seems to fail silently, curl -F content=test http://dpaste.com/api/v2/ works 13:49:25 very weird 13:49:47 http://dpaste.com/0KQWV65 uploaded manually 13:50:15 hrm, i guess there is a significant veto rate, i lied 13:50:31 though orc utopia would still be one of the most common ones if there wasn't 13:50:57 http://dpaste.com/2XEEGXY 13:51:11 second arg is syntax 13:51:27 but I need to make it do some automagic 13:52:01 well, wrt vetoes, I see that 30% are being vetoed, but I guess that's not too atypical 13:52:31 hrm 13:53:03 if you want to cut orc utopia's weight to 70% or 50% or w/e, that'd be reasonable, i think 13:53:37 st_orc_rangers is getting vetoed a lot 13:53:59 actually would be cool to make some follow up script that showed vetoe% 13:54:20 but yeah a simple fix is to downweight it; it does place more xp/monster than the other maps 13:54:23 even after adjustment 13:54:54 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 13:56:10 ok, doing so. 13:59:41 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:03:21 -!- Guest49351 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:03:36 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1804-g0930707: Halve pubby_orc_utopia's weight 10(86 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0930707038ff 14:07:55 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:12:32 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:14:34 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:22:12 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping 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Perhaps chequers' new scoring will be ready pretty soon. If |amethyst comes back I can ping him about cao if new scoring is not ready 17:22:27 I assume your database if for scores on the server itself? 17:22:29 *is 17:23:08 yea, only for the server 17:26:46 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:28:48 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:34:18 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:37:55 whoops, made Crawl upset when I tried to change MAX_SKILL_LEVEL to test something out 17:44:34 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:44:38 -!- Surgo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:44:50 -!- Guest4545 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:48:37 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:49:23 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:52:02 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:52:13 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:53:28 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:55:36 -!- vedrorre has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:56:10 -!- hewge has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:57:18 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:57:40 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:58:34 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:02:54 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-a0-1804-g0930707 (34) 18:09:15 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:09:49 CXC WebTiles stopped working 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10371 by Esc 18:13:29 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:25:25 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:28:58 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 18:33:38 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 18:34:01 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:35:44 -!- vale_ has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 18:38:52 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 18:39:10 wow, there's someone out there who uses 034_monster_glyphs.txt 18:39:31 is that a file we actually care about maintaining? 18:39:43 seems weird to leave it around, but in a busted state 18:40:34 treasure trove collapsed by itself 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10372 by HardboiledGargoyle 18:40:40 wrt ^ 18:42:50 -!- Mekanik has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 18:43:47 -!- simples has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:43:48 ??sequell[github 18:43:49 sequell[1/4]: The ##crawl bot, handling game statistics, the {learndb}, and more. Operated by greensnark. See http://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/docs/listgame.md If you want the source, go here: http://github.com/crawl/sequell 18:44:35 Zibudo: have you made a pull request for your stones and log files? that's seemed to be the easiest path I've used for basic sequell integration 18:45:09 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:46:07 johnstein: I haven't, but i dont understand why I would? What is the purpose of Sequell integration? 18:46:46 milestone and log announcements in IRC 18:46:52 -!- hellmonk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:46:58 and db searches 18:47:06 sorry. not logs and stones 18:47:58 !lg * recent s=day(start),src -graph 18:48:04 1460087 games for * (recent): https://shalott.org/graphs/c5a6fd109b9ea83257ec9425c52e5341745b0205.html 18:50:34 -!- adelrune has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:55:14 PleasingFungus: i actually thought those had been removed already 18:55:26 hm 18:55:27 i agree they're probably not worth maintaining, especially that far back 18:55:37 i vaguely remember seeing a note that they wouldn't be maintained 18:55:39 let me see 18:56:42 hm, don't see it after five seconds of looking 18:57:30 i think it's fine to remove all of them really, the point of changing glyphs is that we think the new ones are better 18:57:44 sure 18:58:04 i'll let you do the honors. 19:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:04 oh wow 034_command_keys.txt still exists too 19:01:47 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:01:54 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:04:18 !seeen |amethyst 19:04:24 !seen |amethyst 19:04:24 I last saw |amethyst at Mon Apr 11 22:34:56 2016 UTC (1w 6d 29m 28s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: leaving'. 19:04:34 Hmmm.. :/ 19:05:09 :( 19:05:48 Bleh. I need to sleep 19:05:51 good night 19:06:12 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 19:07:35 Zibudo: you definitely want sequell integration 19:08:08 gammafunk: how does that work then? 19:08:09 that allows anyone to use the irc bots to query games on your server 19:08:24 basically we just ask snark, I've only held off because you said you had stuff you wanted to do first 19:08:42 my plan was to wait for that, then add cjr to sequell (through snark) and update the website 19:08:49 oh that's right 19:08:52 for scoring pages we'll have to play that as we go 19:09:14 At least you'll have your score pages for the server! 19:09:50 maybe new scoring will be ready soon, or we can figure out the cao thing; I could ask rax for a login but I'm not great with postgres and I don't want to break anything 19:10:16 postgres/mysql; I mean I can do basic things, but the scoring scripts are pretty easilly broken and they are working atm 19:11:19 Zibudo: Just let me know when you feel the server is ready for public consumption and I'll take care of the website; I can also ask green.snark for you, although you or I can submit a PR as well 19:11:45 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:12:26 gammafunk: you may as well ask to get the process started because I am trying to finish it up soon 19:13:58 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:17:25 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:17:37 -!- tedric has joined ##crawl-dev 19:17:55 real FR: remove starting stealth skill from Mage backgrounds 19:18:47 why? 19:19:09 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 19:20:40 there's no particular reason for mage backgrounds to all have stealth 19:20:47 it's weird 19:21:35 starting them with 2 fighting makes as much sense as starting them with 2 stealth 19:21:52 also mage backgrounds could use a nerf and this is a very easy and simple one 19:21:58 could they? 19:23:19 !lg * recent mage x=avg(score) 19:23:21 380399 games for * (recent mage): avg(sc)=63780.29 19:23:21 !lg * recent !mage x=avg(score) 19:23:24 1079781 games for * (recent !mage): avg(sc)=74051.01 19:23:36 score queries... smdh..... 19:23:40 -!- Shadou has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:23:55 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:24:16 -!- jehoesefat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:24:19 !lg * recent s=role x=avg(sc) o=avg(sc) 19:24:23 1460182 games for * (recent): 13058x Arcane Marksman [107176.7], 22676x Artificer [95050.64], 89154x Gladiator [93445.49], 123074x Berserker [91722.4], 21560x Warper [91573.86], 249042x Fighter [90299.4], 94057x Monk [83730.81], 36018x Earth Elementalist [81157.85], 67956x Conjurer [77840.05], 46536x Hunter [74733.31], 64945x Fire Elementalist [66559.59], 26134x Air Elementalist [66097.86], 33927x... 19:24:34 clearly, AM is the most OP background in the game 19:24:46 agreed. 19:24:48 unrelatedly, i tried playing a game with only yubn, and another game with only hjkl. i came to the conclusion that this dungeon is not very handicap-accssible 19:24:48 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0.2/20160407164938]] 19:24:49 or maybe, just maybe, sequell queries aren't a good way to determine background strength 19:25:23 amalloy I've seen people get ridiculously far without knowing it's possible to move diagonally 19:25:41 yeah, i know about that, and i was astonished at how hard it is 19:25:48 i mean, i was KoGl rather than MiBe 19:26:02 but i was forced into so many bad decisions all the time 19:26:17 your head wasn't in the cardinal direction game 19:26:25 you got to think like a cardinal direction 19:27:19 PleasingFungus: what do you think the reason is for giving all mage backgrounds 2 stealth? 19:30:32 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 19:30:59 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:31:49 Shops no longer do math for me 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10373 by tedric 19:34:50 minmay: simulationism 19:35:04 simulationism is always the reason 19:36:48 !tell greensnark Could you add our new montreal-based server cjr to Sequell? I made an issue with the urls https://github.com/crawl/sequell/issues/56 ; admin is Zibudo on irc 19:36:48 gammafunk: OK, I'll let greensnark know. 19:37:21 is new scoring just a script update or is it a website revamp? 19:37:33 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:37:47 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 19:37:58 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:38:27 ontoclasm: would it be more or less simulationist if mage backgrounds had 3 dodging 0 stealth insetad of 2 dodging 2 stealth 19:38:46 yes 19:38:50 Floodkiller: it's new code with a new front-end; chequers wants to have support for setting nicks within scoring, kind of like how sequell does, but you might want to talk with him about that 19:40:39 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:43:19 !lm neil 19:43:20 23146. [2016-04-24 23:30:50] neil the Severer (L11 DDBe of Trog) killed Nergalle on turn 10570. (Lair:3) 19:43:24 ! 19:43:46 !lm neil x=src 19:43:46 23146. [2016-04-24 23:30:50] [src=cbro] neil the Severer (L11 DDBe of Trog) killed Nergalle on turn 10570. (Lair:3) 19:50:24 do we still expect neil to come back to -dev? i got the impression he needed a couple days to cool off, but it's been weeks, hasn't it? 19:50:59 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 19:51:16 on scoreboard, we figured out how to prevent streak breakers without need for users to tell us anything 19:51:20 !seen |amethyst 19:51:20 I last saw |amethyst at Mon Apr 11 22:34:56 2016 UTC (1w 6d 1h 16m 23s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: leaving'. 19:51:23 amalloy: I don't know, but I sure hope so. 19:51:59 chequers: how so? 19:52:07 does 1.86472 count as "weeks" or does it have to be 2 before you can call it "weeks" 19:52:20 I wouldn't call it weeks 19:52:37 unless that number happens to be like a fraction of pi by some miracle or something 19:52:46 like a whole fraction, you know what I mean 19:52:53 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 19:52:55 isn't any real number a fraction of---yeah 19:54:57 gammafunk: basically, a loss only breaks a streak if it meets some threshold for "real game" 19:55:43 https://github.com/zxc23/dcss-scoreboard/blob/master/scoreboard/scoring.py#L28 19:55:58 hey folks, im trying to figure out some work on issue 0010317 (use items from ground) and i was thinking of approaching it with 2 changes to code: 19:56:00 catches most existing griefs 19:56:50 that doesn't sound a great fix 19:56:53 that- yes 19:56:53 1) objects that can be used from ground get a bool flag indicating such and 2) actions such as drink or read include objects on the current tile that are true for the bool flag 19:57:16 it's only for correcting existing griefing instances, isn't it? not trying to catch new ones 19:57:46 im having a problem looking at the drink code (item_use.cc line 1653) and interpreting how that menu is actually made 19:58:20 it seems to get called from prompt_invent_item which does not allow for objects on the ground to be included in that menu generation 19:59:11 either that, or i really have no idea how to read invent.cc line 1758 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:20 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:01:45 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:06:19 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 20:06:47 Naruni: not sure how i'd go about implementing it at a glance but yeah, prompt_invent_item sounds like the place that would need to be changed, to handle it generally 20:08:11 gammafunk: MarvinPA: it doesn't have to be, it just needs to survive until central auth / or if central auth never comes, it can be adjusted to deal with anyone exploiting 20:08:14 MarvinPA, well i did just have another thought, instead of hacking up prompt_invent_item to try and include ground objects, wouldn't it make a bit more sense for clean code to change the read/drink code to be similar to the memorize code? if i remember correctly memorize includes spells from books on your tile 20:08:14 might be kind of fiddly to refactor that to make it work though (and i don't have convenient access to the code at the moment to properly look at how it could be done) 20:08:18 but I think for now, simplicity is best 20:08:32 minmay: new ones too, theoretically 20:08:34 -!- Zibudo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:08:42 chequers: well, you're no longer planning to have/set nicks then? 20:09:24 Floodkiller was asking about it, but I'm not sure what he's up to 20:09:28 -!- Zibudo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:09:36 we'll integrate with SSO and use that data preferentially 20:09:44 Naruni: you could look at what how memorising books works maybe, prompt_invent_item is used very widely though 20:09:54 but until then, assuming progress is being made on SSO, we probably won't work on it ourselves 20:11:49 -!- noobcanoe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:12:50 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 20:13:29 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:13:49 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 20:15:17 -!- svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:20:19 aw 20:21:20 Lasty: did you like my sif picture 20:21:31 -!- } has quit [] 20:22:58 -!- hewge has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:23:45 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 20:24:23 -!- hellmonk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:26:25 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:28:49 minmay: I confess that that's not all that far off from how I think of Sif Muna 20:29:01 Friend of yours? 20:32:03 -!- reaverbot has joined ##crawl-dev 20:33:43 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:34:05 Lasty: no I found it on google 20:34:09 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 20:34:25 I only have 1 friend and her hair isn't blue 20:34:45 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 20:34:57 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 20:35:21 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:38:36 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:39:12 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:39:27 -!- Harudoku_ is now known as Harudoku 20:45:32 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:47:37 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 20:51:02 !message PleasingFungus please read and comment on my note added to Mantis issue 10317. Thanks! 20:51:03 You probably meant !tell, or possibly !messages. 20:51:10 !tell PleasingFungus please read and comment on my note added to Mantis issue 10317. Thanks! 20:51:10 Naruni: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 20:51:23 !tell dpeg please read and comment on my note added to Mantis issue 10317. Thanks! 20:51:24 Naruni: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 20:51:27 -!- shnurlf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:54:53 -!- waat has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:55:17 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 20:55:26 !messages 20:55:26 No messages for wheals. 20:55:36 !messages 20:55:36 No messages for minmay. 20:58:47 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:32 -!- MarvinPA has left ##crawl-dev 21:02:57 -!- svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:04:09 minmay: but presumably that could be changed 21:06:06 Lasty: forgive me if I don't feel like calling my best friend and telling her "hey, can you dye your hair blue so I can take a picture of you and post it on the internet" 21:10:02 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 21:10:14 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 21:12:20 minmay: real friends dramatically change their personal aesthetic at your whim. 21:16:03 heh 21:19:25 -!- svendre_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:19:33 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:28:01 -!- Harudoku has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:29:00 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:30:54 -!- jefus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:34:04 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:34:33 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:34:56 -!- jefus_ is now known as jefus 21:35:24 for report details in mantis, if i'm going off master branch which product branch do i select? 21:38:01 -!- HarryHood has quit [Client Quit] 21:39:18 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:40:04 Cleanup in player-equip.cc 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10374 by Naruni 21:41:34 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:42:06 Naruni, 0.18 development branch 21:43:06 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:45:43 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:47:26 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 21:49:54 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:50:42 geekosaur, thanks, thats what i ended up putting 22:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:08:35 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:09:02 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 22:14:07 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:15:01 Lasty: was your MP scaling change in 0.17? 22:16:40 -!- Harudoku has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:17:33 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:22:22 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:23:20 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 22:26:41 Lasty: although, come to think of it, she does have a nice pair of fake elf ears 22:27:21 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1805-g8ab820f: Fix typo. 10(10 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8ab820f8c40c 22:31:17 -!- Hiffwe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:33:28 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:35:20 -!- vedrorre has quit [Changing host] 22:35:32 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:40:04 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:40:14 -!- deadaf has quit [Client Quit] 22:41:20 -!- Blade- has joined ##crawl-dev 22:42:07 -!- Nomi has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:45:51 -!- vedrorre has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:50:11 -!- reaverbot has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:53:40 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:02:25 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 23:03:40 -!- Surgo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:03:51 -!- noobcanoe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:04:48 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:05:55 -!- notalatreon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:10:22 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 23:10:23 The build has errored. (master - 8ab820f #5323 : Shmuale Mark): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/125468731 23:10:24 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 23:10:38 wow wheals, just how big a typo did you fix?! 23:11:04 it was a critical typo 23:11:35 you.religion == GOD_XOM -> you.relgion = GOD_XOM 23:11:40 oops 23:11:51 can't even introduce bugs correctly 23:12:04 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:17:29 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:20:12 -!- docpaisley has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:31:04 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:31:16 -!- wheals has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:36:31 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:38:28 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:38:48 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Client Quit] 23:41:30 -!- Blade- has joined ##crawl-dev 23:41:46 -!- vedrorre_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:59:25 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1805-g8ab820f (34)