00:00:05 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:36 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:00:37 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 00:00:59 johstein: ofc 00:00:59 xaibudo: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:01:03 !message 00:01:04 You probably meant !messages, or possibly !tell. 00:01:07 !messages 00:01:08 (1/1) johnstein said (1m 27s ago): remember to updated the dgamelaunch wiki if you found errors or better ways to do this stuff! Thanks! 00:01:37 hrm 00:01:45 where is the dgl admin stuff, I'm looking at crawl-git-launcher.sh 00:01:55 chequers: i did, and not particularly, seems kind of weird 00:04:37 -!- FireSight has quit [] 00:05:08 the rebuild stuff is a hairy mess, mainly because I'm not very good at apache 00:05:32 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:05:44 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 00:06:10 oh weird, all the user admin stuff is in sh-utils.sh 00:06:17 er just sh-utils 00:06:57 -!- JoeltCo has quit [Quit: Quitting] 00:06:57 -!- JoeltCola has quit [Quit: Quitting] 00:06:57 basically, you update /utils/ trigger-rebuild.pl (add allowed versions) and auth-save-downloader.pl ( 00:07:27 then update your apache rewrite rules 00:07:45 aha! 00:08:00 once again, confused by the fact that master is out of date wrt the cszorg branch 00:08:07 the scripts in that branch are up to date 00:08:35 yep, never use master 00:08:50 in related news, we should tidy up the crawl dgamelaunch repo 00:09:17 yeah 00:09:33 that is a job I delegate to.... 00:09:36 !rng @gods 00:09:36 The RNG chooses: @gods. 00:09:38 !rng @god 00:09:39 The RNG chooses: No God. 00:09:42 wow 00:09:45 lol 00:10:15 xaibudo: so with the help of johnstein, we see how to set users as admins 00:10:17 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:10:27 not sure if you were following this, but there's a dgl admin command 00:10:36 there's a LOT of dgl commands! 00:10:40 : o 00:10:54 are these documented? 00:10:55 sudo /home/crawl-dev/dgamelaunch-config/bin/dgl admin add 00:11:01 I updated the wiki 00:11:02 so yes! 00:11:05 nice 00:11:11 now I don't know that you need sudo there 00:11:48 unfortunately you have to run that for any active dev for whom it's good to grant rebuild access 00:12:04 hmm 00:12:06 but there aren't a lot who are in channel I guess 00:12:26 -!- Arglure has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:12:53 some names: amalloy doy elliptic gammafunk MarvingPA Medar PleasingFungus wheals 00:13:00 oh and Lasty 00:13:05 Lasty but not Leasty 00:13:19 MarvingPA, huh 00:13:19 http://pastebin.com/4GaAAxv5 00:13:29 look spelling is hard ok 00:13:32 xaibudo, gammafunk, that's my messy apache config for cbro 00:14:00 hmm i have a lot of this, some extra lines to throw in 00:14:02 there's a couple non-crawl things on there (df, clicker), but that's what I ended up with after harassing neil and grunt to help me 00:14:02 xaibudo: yeah, the rebuild cgi is a bit weird to set up 00:14:32 -!- Grammus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:14:47 it's one of the more significant things, because if, say, wheals, breaks save compat and someone does a fix and we need to rebuild servers 00:14:49 if either of you are better at explaining apache stuff, please update the wiki 00:14:59 we can rebuild trunk on your server at-will 00:15:00 but if not, I can muddle my way through it at some point :) 00:15:09 yea. I was getting harassed daily 00:15:11 :P 00:15:23 Targeting Dazzling Spray down always crashes in this fight 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10366 by 1old3 00:15:55 [21:17] !tell johnstein Did you ever get the rebuild interface enable / dev accounts assigned? Considering events from earlier this might be prudent. 00:16:03 from jan 18th 2014 00:16:21 It's wise to listen to a hasted patch executioner 00:17:08 I guess I can go ahead and ask the snark about cjr logfile/milestones, although cao worries me 00:17:19 xaibudo, gammafunk: there's also this wisdom from neil: [22:06] <|amethyst> johnstein: also you need some sudo rules to allow www-data to run /home/crawl-dev/dgamelaunch-config/bin/dgl update-trunk and /home/crawl-dev/dgamelaunch-config/bin/dgl update-stable * as user crawl-dev 00:17:19 [22:07] <|amethyst> johnstein: (the trigger-rebuild.pl script explicitly does sudo -u crawl-dev dgl update-$branch $args 00:17:30 johnstein: is your rebuild directory your cgi-bin where rebuild trigger pl script is saved? is that a sym link? how does that directory set up look like? 00:17:38 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:17:48 [22:09] <|amethyst> johnstein: and maybe tweak the document and add this stuff 00:17:48 [22:09] <|amethyst> johnstein: since I forgot to the last three times I set this up :) 00:17:50 doh 00:18:10 no one ever harassed chequers into it, ofc 00:18:20 well chequers rebuilds every 15 mins 00:18:26 does update trunk / stable have to be ran by www-data for rebuild or can that be ran through scripts? 00:18:28 tbf xaibudo is rebuilding every hour 00:18:33 which is also pretty fast 00:18:45 so in fact, now that you mention it 00:19:01 note: is there a difference between rebuild and update-trunk? 00:19:17 xaibudo, my rebuild dir is: /var/www/crawl/rebuild 00:19:21 it's just an empty directory 00:19:32 oh wait 00:19:36 xaibudo: did you say you're rebuilding every hour for trunk? 00:19:41 let me actually read your question more closely 00:19:48 it update-trunks every hour at the moment 00:20:06 well, if you'd like to keep it that way, I think you could argue there's no need for a rebuild cgi 00:20:37 that's what i am thinking 00:20:41 seems like a lot of work 00:20:44 for the same thing 00:20:46 yeah 00:20:48 I could add in a login 00:20:52 that a dev could run the update 00:20:58 would be minimal effort 00:21:03 it was a lot of work for me, but it was my first foray into apache stuff 00:21:05 it would be helpful if you can still make devs wizmode users 00:21:23 through the dgl admin thing, but that requires no extra setup 00:21:29 I will do that, and apache is so old that half of it barely works in the config tbh 00:21:54 you still may have to do a bit of work with the auth-save-downloader.pl script 00:21:59 ah, yes 00:22:01 and the associated rewrite rules 00:22:02 that is a good point 00:22:11 but should be simpler... I think 00:22:16 that doesn't need the sudo rules though, right? 00:22:19 since I think it's mostly dgl 00:22:38 xaibudo: auth-save-downloader.pl lets devs get save files from any game on the server 00:22:41 for debugging 00:22:47 ah okay 00:22:51 you need the rewrite rules 00:22:59 well, the user must first log in via console to issue the save of the save 00:23:16 which still may need the www-data user 00:23:31 so once you get that working, you are halfway to the rebuild triggering :P 00:24:00 it's not critical, nice to have 00:24:27 xaibudo, [22:05] <|amethyst> johnstein: /home/crawl/DGL/dgldir/dumps/ has to be readable by user or group www-data 00:24:41 well, probably fairly critical for mantis bug reports 00:24:56 yeah I say this as someone who doesn't fix a lot of bugs 00:25:11 but not having it won't prevent the server from being useful for tourney etc 00:25:11 my permissions let www-data, crawl, and crawl-dev, and root do anything in those directories 00:25:19 so I don't think I should have perm errors in many places 00:25:24 if you're rebuilding every hour, just check that a full game build takes less than an hour 00:25:38 dgl might already have locking about that 00:25:41 it takes much less than an hour 00:25:47 I often find builds take >15mins on my server 00:26:03 15 to 20 if i recall 00:26:24 cool 00:26:36 I added: 00:26:36 www-data ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /home/crawl-dev/dgamelaunch-config/bin/dgl update-trunk, /home/crawl-dev/dgamelaunch-config/bin/dgl update-stable 00:26:36 to visudo 00:26:39 -!- regret-index has joined ##crawl-dev 00:26:46 "minmay_five_octagons and minmay_octagon_city because you anuses completely broke them by adding monster digging, and then broke them again trying to fix them (not even fixing the monster digging problem for octagon city)" 00:27:11 anuses, huh 00:27:14 definitely need to add this stuff to the wiki. such a convoluted solution 00:27:20 I'm more of a sphincter 00:27:24 yeah, just a regular sudo w/o password to run in scripts 00:27:32 I have one of those too 00:27:34 for reference, r-i is talking about https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?p=266993&sid=512bc30829fda38abaccb85fb0c43c24#p266993 00:28:02 I know my whole melodramatic schtick about toxic voices and a lack of gratitude is annoying, but 00:28:25 dont take angry duvessa posts seriously 00:28:33 don't take anything seriously 00:28:35 ctrl+f johnstein 00:28:37 whew! 00:29:01 minqmay: might be worth toning it down a little bit regardless. esp. the death threats, maybe. 00:29:13 %git e6d6f54438e4ee46afd15c5709bbfc240dacef29 00:29:13 07dpeg02 * 0.8.0-a0-3972-ge6d6f54: Floating vaults by minmay. 10(5 years ago, 1 file, 248+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e6d6f54438e4 00:29:24 imo dpeg doesn't deserve a death threat for this... ^ 00:29:57 !lg dpeg killer=duvessa 00:29:58 8. dpeg the Chopper (L6 MiGl), mangled by Duvessa (a +1 vampiric short sword) on D:4 on 2016-02-26 13:36:11, with 335 points after 3658 turns and 0:05:26. 00:30:06 apparently its too late 00:30:09 nooooo 00:30:21 nice, most of my vaults are on your list! 00:30:26 I take a break because of shitty players and I decide to work again because of shitty people. what a cycle. 00:30:26 most of the ones that place monsters, anyway 00:30:27 no they aren't 00:30:37 pf_torpor_hydra and pf_orc_diabolical 00:30:45 i haven't made that many non-decorative vaults... 00:31:07 it's those two, snail_temple (which no one has ever seen), and lost_world, which is very new 00:31:10 i mean i didn't count, i just went through all the des files and tried to sound berserk 00:31:16 feature freeze was never formally announced but vault edit work never mattered for this, right 00:31:24 just don't introduce bugs 00:31:26 that's the key thing 00:31:31 he didn't list mine because he knows I'll start editing his posts 00:31:31 noted. 00:31:32 feature freeze = monotonic bug reduction 00:31:34 ideally 00:31:41 gammafunk: tacky... 00:31:52 well njvack ruined that fun and told me to stop 00:31:55 minqmay: the careful listing of baileys is a good touch 00:31:55 didn't projected noise get removed deep into one freeze 00:32:10 regret-index: and meleebug was introduced in another 00:32:12 we all make mistakes! 00:32:17 it looks careful mostly because the names were so lazy 00:32:52 gammafunk i actually did "list" at least one of yours 00:33:14 which? 00:33:20 moon base 00:33:28 "wizlabs (cloud mage would be ok if the air elementals didn't submerge and it didn't have water in the playable part)" 00:33:33 i already edited the post btw 00:33:48 rip death threat 00:33:56 (ty.) 00:34:04 johnstein: I am getting 403 perm error on the auth-save.pl script, but all previous directories are 755 with root:root which www-data is in root group, any thoughts? 00:34:09 cheibrodos gets points for listing metal_show, which really is just an awful vault 00:34:27 hm 00:34:37 gammafunk: is there any reason I shouldn't remove metal_show, actually? 00:34:43 imo, no 00:34:47 ait 00:35:01 no one ever gets the reference 00:35:41 the only purpose of metal_show is confusing people that use !lm to find unique depths 00:35:45 "why is sigmund a vaults unique" 00:35:53 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:35:55 haha 00:36:01 im serious this happens routinely 00:36:02 I need to edit that lemuel kiku vault that places rats, bats, and porcupines as well 00:36:13 * regret-index coughs. 00:36:19 rats and bats I kind of get, but porcupines are just not very goth 00:36:35 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1790-g1042b88: Remove an overly-gimmicky vault 10(78 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 58-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1042b8806e4d 00:36:40 vampire tower thing? 00:36:40 xaibudo, not offhand, but maybe when I get back. (late bedtime for the kiddos and one of them decided to go into meltdown mode. heh 00:36:40 yeah 00:36:50 minqmay: i didn't know anyone used lm for that, tbh 00:36:58 johnstein: no worries i'll see what google has to say 00:37:03 so long, me just cutting the mosh pit. 00:37:12 regret-index: you can do that! 00:37:19 nobody can do anythingggggggggggg 00:37:22 uh 00:37:24 i just did something 00:37:30 idk if you noticed? 00:37:45 regret-index was talking about the user Nobody, obviously 00:37:57 GOD_NOBODY 00:38:59 oh 00:39:08 CanOfWorms: there was a request for your services earlier today 00:39:10 i forget why 00:39:14 ! 00:39:28 oh, right 00:39:30 frostbite tile 00:39:33 ah 00:39:37 supposedly the current one looks like, and I quote 00:39:38 as compensation for the toxic tone, i will release 1 more unreleased terrible vault. do you want hellion volcano, zot_deadly_rat, wizard wardrobe, or an ice cave vault that i barely started, but the part that i barely started looks kinda like a floppy penis 00:39:39 "soggy garbage" 00:39:48 lmao 00:39:55 regret-index: this one's for you, I think 00:39:56 * CanOfWorms files it right behind tzitzimitl 00:40:01 that's continuing the toxic tone, so- 00:40:10 imo it's fine to laugh at old vaults 00:40:13 oh, or some elf ends that look like they might be finished 00:40:26 I vote hellion volcano 00:40:27 i guess that might be more constructive 00:40:27 regret-index these are my own vaults 00:40:33 yes, I know. 00:40:35 but i kinda want to see the penis 00:40:37 minqmay: is the ice cave better than the spider end 00:40:39 hopefully it's the cancelled sequel to hellion island 00:40:42 please don't quote me out of context 00:40:56 1learn add PleasingFungus 00:41:14 surely elf is bad now anyway since it uses elementals and dancing weapons and a monster with arrows and hexes and blink 00:41:16 1learn add PleasingFungus to minmay 00:41:31 so there's less than no point 00:41:38 gammafunk: do you have example of how rebuild would be triggered or auth-save would work on a server http://www.jorgrun.rocks/rebuild/ http://www.jorgrun.rocks/saves/ just show scripts 00:41:48 elf was always bad but it influenced a good dream so it has a place in my heart 00:42:14 xaibudo: your cgi-bin is not handling them 00:42:17 oh another option is minmay_a_box_with_orc_wizards_in_it 00:42:30 so this is certainly something going on with your cgi handler within apache config 00:42:33 gammafunk: so it's just not executing 00:42:39 just dump them in a paste for me to ignore forever. 00:42:53 ??rebuild 00:42:53 rebuild[1/2]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 00:43:21 xaibudo: well, apache is seeing the requests and thinking they're simply for data, not to be handled cgi 00:43:26 minqmay: at this point, this has become a question for !rng 00:43:37 xaibudo: those urls are examples, but they're password-protected 00:44:34 xaibudo: do you have the things at the top of the second box in 12.5? 00:44:52 those first 6-8 lines are what enable the cgi-bin 00:45:09 in that case, in /usr/lib/cgi-bin 00:45:12 gammafunk: yea i have them but it is probs some other problem 00:46:07 !rng volcano rat wizard 00:46:08 The RNG chooses: rat. 00:46:39 http://pastebin.com/qUqhPUah 00:47:20 originally it had a butterfly but the butterfly would fly over the zot traps while out of los and produce huge amounts of message spam 00:48:22 gammafunk: i got it working, cgi module wasn't enabled for who knows why 00:48:28 gammafunk: tfw when meirl 00:48:42 post it to reddit 00:48:48 ^ 00:48:49 I will upvote it to the front page 00:49:12 I guess it should have ORIENT: float or mini_float 00:49:14 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:50:58 http://www.jorgrun.rocks/rebuild http://www.jorgrun.rocks/saves/ seem to be working gammafunk? 00:52:11 xaibudo: I skipped out of auth and it just kept giving internal server error, let me try again 00:52:32 gammafunk: i haven't made any admins so should i do that? 00:52:38 yeah 00:52:53 hrm, does it pull auth out of the webtiles user db? it must 00:54:17 minqmay: does that vault actually work? not much these days that works through glass, but i can imagine zot traps might 00:54:30 gammafunk: i couldn't make my own DGL admin, but when i wrote gammafunk it worked, also there seems to be some weird error 00:54:35 idk the file was last changed in june 2012 00:54:57 i should test it 00:54:59 and then 00:55:01 commit it!!!!! ha ha ha ha ha 00:55:17 we both know that vault is too stupid to actually commit 00:55:53 too stupid... even for me...!? 00:56:02 zot traps do not work through glass. 00:56:07 (anymore) 00:56:28 what a sham 00:56:37 also it was too stupid for me, i confess 00:56:50 like that wonderful door trap vault 00:56:58 xaibudo: I wonder if it's looking in the webtiles user db? 00:57:11 and if you don't have an account their 00:57:11 I'd have to see 00:57:18 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1791-g880dd48: Book of Hinderance -> Misfortune (nicolae-) 10(2 minutes ago, 6 files, 13+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/880dd4869c03 00:57:33 -!- simmarine_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:58:13 !vault minmay_twisted_water 00:58:13 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/large_themed.des#l785 00:58:39 hm, i think i did this vault exactly once 00:58:48 it was distinctive 00:58:49 xaibudo: yeah, it's looking in dglusers, which I believe gets populated based on webtiles logins 00:59:04 so if you don't have an account created in webtiles, it's going to give you an error 00:59:24 gammafunk: yea just realized that cuz I tried making a pseudo user an admin 00:59:32 minqmay: did you know that air elementals stopped submerging nearly a year ago? 00:59:43 today is the 11-month anniversary 00:59:56 gammafunk: some errors in apache.log will trouble shoot for perl scripts 00:59:57 no but im leaving it in the post 01:00:01 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:06 haha 01:00:08 !vault minmay_beelzebubs_servants 01:00:08 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/mini_monsters.des#l2133 01:00:18 that originally had giant blowflies and hairy devils iirc 01:00:22 xaibudo: yeah, I seem to just get internal server error when I auth for your rebuild script 01:00:23 wow 01:00:31 blowflies would make the name make a lot more sense 01:00:38 gammafunk: missing something, i'll see if this fixes it 01:00:46 minmay_metal_thing is a heck of a name 01:01:03 gammafunk: try now 01:01:31 ...oh, that's not the vault with scorpions and orange demons 01:01:42 gammafunk: let's you log in but has wrong directory? 01:01:44 is it as good of a name as minmay_a_box_with_orc_wizards_in_it 01:01:50 hrm 01:01:56 tough competition, that's for sure. 01:02:00 right, anti-melee exists and that's terrible 01:02:00 or min_mini_mini_minitomb 01:02:14 !!! 01:02:16 !vault kennysheep_blocky_hall 01:02:16 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/float.des#l6673 01:02:30 regret-index: ? 01:02:50 pleasingfungus: for it to be listed 01:03:02 xaibudo: one sec, I need to see if there's a way to make chrome forget http auth 01:03:07 oh 01:03:07 nm 01:03:10 alternatively literally no monsters that don't spawn normally in a branch should be ever used, but that's already a given. 01:03:11 i'm pretty sure you're putting way more thought into this than min did 01:03:19 no offense to anyone involved 01:03:21 xaibudo: Rebuilding . . . 01:03:21 sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified 01:03:42 yes. I overthink everything. that's the point. 01:03:46 gammafunk: I tried the auth-save one and it said it couldn't find /home/crawl/DGL/dgldir/dumps// with two slashes 01:04:22 hrm, and that's the correct path to the dumps dir in the chroot? 01:04:29 the two slashes is nbd 01:04:39 yea it is 01:04:53 since no one has run a dump command, does that actually exist? 01:05:02 oh, it has to be specific for a user 01:05:15 right, there's a username involved 01:05:19 let me demonstrate 01:05:23 blocky_hall also never actually has anything spawn in the center, incidentally. 01:05:27 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:05:48 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1792-g362e38b: De-spoilerify a vault (minmay) 10(37 seconds ago, 1 file, 15+ 15-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/362e38b6ca6c 01:05:53 yes it does 01:05:53 gammafunk: you lost me, specific user? 01:05:53 i just did it 01:05:53 ... 01:05:57 hey regret-index was my guessing about arrow map correct? 01:06:05 okay, now it does since I moved from zot to depths 01:06:10 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:06:11 it took me five tries 01:06:21 it's not common 01:06:34 I guess technically kennysheep_bubbly could do the same thing? 01:06:46 xaibudo: you choose an option from ssh to back up the save, it gives you a url like http://crawl.beRotato.org/crawl/saves/beem-crawl-git-92de1acf7b-160421-0506.tar.bz2 01:06:57 chequers: I never meant for _arrow_trap to mean anything regarding digging, see the backlog. 01:07:00 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:07:07 that prompts for auth, and lets user download if they're dgl admin 01:07:18 PleasingFungus, I think the lack of the transparent tag will prevent that? 01:07:26 this won't work until you've set up ssh access 01:07:30 in combination with it having ORIENT: float 01:07:37 ah, ok 01:07:43 because anything that generated inside would be disconnected 01:07:59 someday i should learn how vaults work, i guess 01:08:01 but that's a total guess 01:08:05 i feel like it might drive me insane 01:08:13 as opposed to the rest of crawl 01:08:17 I mean, not knowing how vaults weren't didn't stop me and other people from making hundreds of them 01:08:22 s/weren't/work 01:08:28 haha 01:08:30 xaibudo: regarding the rebuild error, looks like sudo doesn't grant permission to www-data or whichever that user was, to run that command 01:08:36 and let's not even talk about my own masterworks! 01:08:37 maybe you knew that already 01:08:50 gammafunk: I think I know how to fix it 01:09:07 the vault should just be a shuffled subset of kennysheep_block_room right underneath it 01:09:23 *blocky_room 01:09:42 gammafunk: now it says it can't lock 01:09:42 regret-index: ah, thanks 01:09:53 gammafunk: but the hour just turned, so my script probably ran 01:09:55 i can't figure out what "that shoals vault where you have to fly into it to see all the giants its full of" is 01:10:03 none of the giants vaults in shoals.des look promising 01:10:04 something st made 01:10:18 gammafunk: i looked at the script and this just runs the update-trunk or stable version, so it seems like this isn't necessary to a point 01:10:26 oh 01:10:30 st_shoals_ruin 01:11:03 i didn't feel like finding it either so i referred to it as that :P 01:11:05 looks like, technically, you can walk in if you're fine with murdering a few fungi 01:11:12 obviously i can't endorse any such behaviour. 01:11:29 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1791-g880dd48 (34) 01:11:43 the vault that demands flight to see giants is st_sunken_temple 01:11:59 that one has too many letters 01:12:00 xaibudo: yeah, you rebuild frequently enough that it's not so important, other servers rebuild once a day and it's bad to let critical bugs sit that long 01:12:02 i can't read it at all 01:12:19 gammafunk: i'll troubleshoot the auth-save now 01:12:19 wow pleasingfungus 01:12:24 oh god, right, i momentarily forgot that w was deep and W was shallow 01:12:24 writing a creative book description... 01:12:31 CanOfWorms: highly illegal, imo 01:12:51 you'll hear from marvinpa about this, probably 01:12:53 also every time I type 'hinderance' it feels like a mispelling 01:12:59 should have never used such a messy glyph as w and W for such water 01:13:00 xaibudo: for that, I'm not sure you can test more until you've set up ssh access, although I guess you can run dgamelaunch locally to test 01:13:28 gammafunk: so it's just not finding the file is the error? 01:13:53 xaibudo: no, what I'm saying is you don't access just that url directly 01:14:01 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 01:14:14 what happens is 1) the user logs into ssh, goes to A) screen, and chooses to B) (I think) backup their save, and gets a url 01:14:18 Like this one: http://crawl.beRotato.org/crawl/saves/beem-crawl-git-92de1acf7b-160421-0506.tar.bz2 01:14:29 can you run that on tiles? or only ssh? 01:14:33 latter 01:14:34 only ssh 01:14:46 someone could/should implement a tiles version 01:15:07 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:15:10 I think your "error" was simply the script not seeing any url to download 01:15:15 alright 01:15:21 time to get ssh then 01:15:29 shhhhhhhh! 01:15:42 *sshhhhhhh! 01:15:47 ^ 01:17:06 minqmay: lmao, i just noticed you included a bunch of unique vaults 01:17:17 i'm really warming to this post of yours. 01:17:21 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 01:18:09 I considered including all of them except uniq_duvessa 01:18:16 fuck this 01:18:19 -!- regret-index has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:18:41 that would've been good 01:18:51 though idk who would have the patience to see the missing element 01:18:53 ...because it was an in-character post, not because all uniques except duvessa are bad 01:19:15 yes 01:20:18 I think I have made someone unhappy 01:20:43 i think r-i has their own stuff going on that's making them disgruntled. idk. 01:21:27 imo don't feel too bad about it. 01:21:28 I wonder who KSK is 01:21:34 ? 01:21:50 but I'm warming to anyone who opens a post with "you need nemel?" 01:22:08 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=19732 01:22:35 I have to say the new nem seems a lot stronger 01:23:06 tbh it might have been more than just minqmay's post in that thread 01:23:07 plain summons deck gives strong stuff 01:23:08 i can't keep track of nems 01:23:14 eg Cheibrodos's 01:23:20 -!- jehoesefat has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:23:23 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:24:25 -!- chamandro has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:26:10 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:26:32 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:29:05 cheibrodos said he might make some more vaults this summer 01:29:18 be warned he may try to sneak in something related to testicles 01:29:33 wow, fucked up 01:30:47 can someone test my ssh @ crawl.jorgrun.rocks username: jorgrun password: rocks 01:30:51 let me know if you need key 01:31:30 -!- Ultraviolent4 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:31:52 gammafunk: are we gonna release a 0.17.2? 01:32:02 gammafunk maybe people will finally leave me alone about that shoals entry then 01:33:03 oh, which shoals entry? 01:33:25 !vault minmay_shoals_entry_lonely_mermaid 01:33:25 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/shoals.des#l80 01:33:26 ? 01:33:35 PleasingFungus: It's kind of a big hassle, imo only if there's an important commit in there 01:33:37 looks more like lungs to me 01:33:43 relative to 0.17.1 01:33:49 gammafunk: considering whether to close 10366 01:33:53 since it's fixed in 0.18 01:33:55 !bug 10366 01:33:55 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10366 01:34:41 PleasingFungus: well, since you're release coordinating this time, maybe you can see how geekosaur feels about it, making os x packages for 0.17.2 01:34:47 it is a crash bug, but... 01:34:52 oh dear, i'm coordinating? 01:35:00 yes, you set the freeze! 01:35:02 and the dates 01:35:03 shit! 01:35:06 shit!!! 01:35:33 I mean, probably you won't make any builds, but you can do the branching/tagging/posts etc 01:35:34 but i've got the next two weeks on my calendar blocked out already! see, there's this thing called 'dark souls' 01:35:44 dark souls is a meme, disregard 01:35:45 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 01:35:46 The build is still failing. (master - 1042b88 #5305 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/124658577 01:35:46 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 01:35:57 shit!!!! 01:36:22 wow, WEIRD test failure there 01:36:25 test error: ...build/crawl/crawl/crawl-ref/source/dat/dlua/test.lua:23: Shoals hut doors blocked (map dumped to level-fail.map) 01:37:23 two questions: 1.) I think ssh is working, but it is listing more versions than I support, does anyone know where that file is located so I can edit it 2.) when I try to spectate a game from console it closes putty out 01:37:24 gonna try to replicate 01:38:12 xaibudo: listing more versions? 01:38:23 oh for basic menu? 01:38:27 johnstein: yea 01:38:38 chroot/dat/menus/ 01:38:59 there's a menu for normal users and admins 01:39:08 based on who is a dgl admin 01:39:09 I know, I think the shoals ending looks nothing like balls and I certainly never intended it to look like balls. But every fucking month, someone comes up to me and like "ur shoals entry looks like balls lmao" 01:39:18 wow 01:39:21 they see the admin one 01:39:24 no one ever talks to me about my vaults... 01:39:30 maybe i should've made them look like, idk. labia 01:39:49 then gotta make sure dgamelaunch config file matches. I kept screwing that up early on 01:39:56 forgetting the poor admins 01:40:02 PleasingFungus did you see there was a guy who tried to "uncensor" that duvessa tile 01:40:07 lmao 01:40:08 what 01:40:22 and used it as his avatar on tavern for like an hour 01:40:30 it was creepy 01:40:53 uh 01:41:03 reminds me of the nude demigoddess custom tile person 01:41:11 in badwhatever 01:41:16 and he did a really, really bad job of drawing it 01:41:21 ??crawl confessions[nude 01:41:21 I don't have a page labeled crawl confessions[nude in my learndb. 01:41:26 if I attach to a crawl process with gdb, how can i see the message log? 01:41:31 johnstein: so do i edit in config then publish? 01:41:35 ??crawl confessions[3 01:41:36 crawl confessions[3/4]: Her Crawl iteration actually does use equipment since for some reason this is required for her survival, but her custom tile shows otherwise, as for her to be in character, she must be naked. My Demigoddess tile is specifically without underwear and has a specially long 'cape' for her very long godiva hair entirely for this purpose. 01:42:03 dang 01:42:03 xaibudo: yes 01:42:08 sudo publish 01:42:10 i would've thought that'd have gone with the badwhatevers 01:42:19 who wrote that 01:42:25 me 01:42:47 johnstein: yea, also could you test my ssh, I don't know if I need a key or not, kinda confused on that part for now, but server is: crawl.jorgrun.rocks user: jorgrun pass: rocks 01:42:53 how do i used crawl-gdb.py with gdb? 01:43:57 oh, right 01:45:23 rip badideas 01:47:23 xaibudo: worked via my iPhone https://imgur.com/a/xQ28t 01:47:41 johstein: so do i not need the key then? 01:47:58 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:48:22 hrm, that shoals test doesn't fail in 2500 iterations 01:48:37 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 01:48:46 xaibudo: depends if you want to allow ssh users to have password access. some people turn that off and just use keys 01:49:06 cbro only uses keys 01:49:22 johnstein: is there a negative to keeping it the way I am doing it? 01:50:19 johnstein: is the negative that they could log in as this user, so the key just replaces the password step? 01:50:34 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 01:50:54 xaibudo: I'm not a great person for a good answer to that. I read somewhere that it was better to turn off password auth for ssh. but I can't give you a great explanation on the details of why 01:50:59 -!- Idolo has quit [] 01:51:14 Failed to load map, reloading all maps (Map was built for a different version of Crawl (hangedman_vaults_slice) (map: 0.0 us: 34.169)) 01:51:25 not sure how negative it is though 01:51:25 what on earth 01:51:28 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:51:38 one thing I want to do is add the other server keys to cbro 01:51:41 this is the lua map bug on my server 01:51:45 it happened again 01:51:51 so they aren't limited to having to have the cbro one 01:52:00 anyway, the 0.0 implies to me the file isn't reading properly at all 01:52:07 I wish |amethyst were here :( 01:52:16 -!- Blade- has joined ##crawl-dev 01:52:46 johnstein: I think I get it, but I will leave it since I need to ssh for other reasons, I'll just make sure to limit the user in case of silly people 01:53:08 the key is ssh too 01:53:34 I use a key for my personal login to a cbro shell 01:54:08 yea, i just share the server in other regards for other projects so it wouldn't be reasonable for my to do it that way at the moment 01:54:21 anyways good night ttyl 01:54:47 later 01:56:10 !tell |amethyst I got a core dumb of the tides of blood / lua level loading / sprint scorinb bug issue if you have some time to help me debug it 01:56:11 chequers: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 01:56:48 !tell |amethyst I'm wondering if crawl is failing to read the map file properly but not sure how to tell -- Map was built for a different version of Crawl (hangedman_vaults_slice) (map: 0.0 us: 34.169) 01:56:48 chequers: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 01:56:53 !seen |amethyst 01:56:53 I last saw |amethyst at Mon Apr 11 22:34:56 2016 UTC (1w 2d 7h 21m 56s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: leaving'. 01:58:33 chequers you do tiles right 01:58:48 minqmay: do I? 01:58:56 idk thats why i asked 01:59:02 CanofWorms does 01:59:16 minqmay: i don't even support ssh 01:59:23 oh, you mean I'm an artist? no 01:59:30 i know worms does 01:59:41 PleasingFungus has made some in the past 01:59:54 jockstrap made of brambles 01:59:58 !crash Ultraviolent4 01:59:59 a classic 02:00:00 2. Ultraviolent4, XL17 OpSu, T:50230 (milestone): https://crawl.project357.org/morgue/Ultraviolent4/crash-Ultraviolent4-20151113-221027.txt 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:05 hm 02:00:29 thats not the right game 02:00:30 https://crawl.project357.org/morgue/Ultraviolent4/crash-Ultraviolent4-20160421-055844.txt 02:00:38 !tell |amethyst https://crawl.project357.org/morgue/Ultraviolent4/crash-Ultraviolent4-20160421-055844.txt 02:00:38 chequers: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 02:01:08 "High score entries featuring mountain dwarves that died of stupidity no longer crash the game." 02:01:10 yay, im famous 02:01:14 ^ sounds like there's a story there 02:01:17 -!- Guest37165 is now known as Wensley 02:01:30 so if i test and upload these 4 elf ending vaults will something bad happen 02:01:30 Wensley: that was a good bug, imo 02:01:37 other than them possibly being added to crawl 02:01:40 minqmay: it's possible that they could end up in the - fuck!!! 02:01:51 you're not allowed to make my jokes before i can finish typing them out. 02:02:15 minqmay: did you see these ending vaults in a dream 02:02:15 Wensley: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 02:02:24 no i found a bunch of old vaults that i never submitted 02:02:25 whoa, chequers, thats actually super weird 02:02:44 scroll down to the bottom of the messages and you will see that it still has the messages from the last time i got this crash 02:02:49 dated 02/12/2010 to 03/21/2013 02:02:58 The mighty Pandemonium lord Mnoleg resides here. He guards the glowing rune of Zot. 02:03:17 also wensley i finally found the accidental duvessa cosplay i wanted all along 02:03:21 ??minmay[16 02:03:21 minmay[16/16]: photo proof duvessa is real http://likaloony.deviantart.com/art/15-10-14-11-569486745 02:03:46 !tell xaibudo you ssh works for me! thanks for setting it up. Using an ssh key would be great to set up for that "jorgrun" user only, and it's good to use an existing key; you can use the same key as cao, found http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/howto 02:03:47 gammafunk: OK, I'll let xaibudo know. 02:04:25 I just realized I have the exact same shirt as her, too 02:04:47 well, you are her. 02:04:49 canonically. 02:05:59 @??dowan 02:06:12 I am so behind on my enemydb syntax 02:06:36 that should work, i think? 02:06:43 anyway, minqmay, pretty sure dowan is the blue one. that's a cosplay of dowan. 02:06:46 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:06:50 @??goblin 02:06:58 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 02:07:08 http://crawl.develz.org/info/index.php?q=duvessa http://crawl.develz.org/info/index.php?q=dowan 02:07:32 red is basically another shade of blue 02:07:33 my whole life is a lie 02:07:54 look, bloax-dowan has sort of a blueish tinge on the edge of the book...? 02:07:56 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:07:56 I guess it's not confusing because she only berserks when he's dead 02:08:02 i guess that's the cover, huh. 02:08:07 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 02:08:08 The build is still failing. (master - 880dd48 #5306 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/124660535 02:08:08 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 02:08:24 feh! 02:08:36 -!- vale_ has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 02:08:48 can't replicate that locally at all. 02:09:27 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:10:05 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0.2/20160407164938]] 02:12:13 someone should probably make the gauntlet elf ends have more monsters to be consistent with the rest, or the other way around 02:12:47 and actually use the functions that the rest of the vaults do 02:14:04 -!- CanOfWorms has left ##crawl-dev 02:16:56 -!- ssteam has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 02:19:53 -!- xaibudo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:37:37 -!- Crauler has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:43:53 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:45:47 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 02:45:48 The build was fixed. 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PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:17:22 -!- Diabl0658 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:18:01 !messages 03:18:01 (1/1) gammafunk said (5h 8m 24s ago): Do you remember how to set up wizmode/rebuild/save access on dgl-based servers? xaidbudo is setting up a new server, cjr, and needs help there 03:18:16 -!- Denapoli has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:19:22 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:19:34 TZer0: I think we got it figured out 03:19:41 good, good 03:19:50 ./bin/dgl admin add username I think it is 03:19:53 yep 03:20:01 TZer0: by the way, do you know anything about the CAO scoring? 03:20:08 ??cjr 03:20:08 cjr[1/1]: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/ Hosted in Montreal by Zibudo 03:20:10 not really. 03:20:19 We're basically all set up with this new Canadian server 03:20:27 oh, cool 03:20:35 I mean 03:20:42 if you're talking about the central scoring system 03:20:48 I believe you just need to talk to |amethyst 03:21:05 and make sure that the scoring-files are exposed 03:21:16 yeah, he's been gone since the griefing incident, hopefully he'll return soon 03:21:22 I've noticed :/ 03:21:30 I still need to fix that shit on my server 03:21:40 and we (collectively) need to fix our tools to prevent this 03:21:53 The score files are avail for that server, and I could ask snark about setting up sequell, but I didn't quite want to without CAO covered 03:22:05 we need a central login system 03:22:05 ??cue 03:22:05 cue[1/4]: European Crawl server, located in Germany. http://underhound.eu:8080/ or underhound.eu, port 22, username: terminal, key: http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key.ppk See {putty} for Windows users. Runs 0.10-0.17 and trunk (DCSS, Zot, Sprint, Tut). Formely known as CLAN. 03:22:13 There's apparently some work on the unified database for accounts, but I'm not sure if it will go anywhere 03:22:22 We'll have to see 03:22:24 gammafunk: fwiw i had sequell set up for a while before i got cpo added to cao 03:22:33 chequers: yeah we'll probably just do that, I'm sure 03:22:37 and seriously, fuck people who grief 03:22:44 I still don't know who actually griefed on my server -_- 03:22:45 esp since for tournament we don't need cao 03:22:48 like, I have the IP.. 03:23:01 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1792-g362e38b (34) 03:23:12 you're not messing up for whoever your intended target is 03:23:13 tourney doesn't even need sequell! 03:23:14 Well with some sleuthing you could probably match it against a webtiles user? 03:23:17 you're messing up for system admins 03:23:24 chequers: tourney needs what sequell needs though 03:23:34 gammafunk: if they haven't played many games on any user on my server 03:23:34 yip yip 03:23:37 and actually, tourney does need sequell 03:23:46 how do I know which one is theirs? 03:23:47 a lot of users track based on sequell etc 03:23:54 so "needs" I guess, but bad to not have them both 03:24:01 tourney just needs one dude with a spreadsheet 03:24:01 yeah, would be more correct to say tourney website doesn't 03:24:02 =p 03:24:16 ProzacElf: and a lot of uppers 03:24:24 that's how you get the scoring to be realtime. lesser roguelikes have to deal with sleep 03:24:27 TZer0: I don't know the details, but you could probably look at account creation, the IP of the request? 03:24:32 or account access, rather 03:24:50 if they covered their tracks through a proxy for griefing, maybe not though 03:25:06 in the case of dreamurr he didn't 03:25:27 gammafunk: sure, I can identify what IP griefed 03:25:31 and what users it griefed 03:25:37 but not the original account of the griefer 03:26:11 yes, this is true 03:26:40 problem is banning griefers or whatever might just make them want to grief more 03:26:49 oh I guess if said user never used your server legitimately 03:26:57 if we had access to the logs from all other servers 03:27:02 better to prevent griefing in the first place 03:27:31 oh 03:27:36 was it Dremurr? 03:27:51 zxc: I don't think that logic exactly works, I'm pretty sure even commercial game companies both ban people and have anti-cheating/griefing tech 03:27:52 that was the guy that griefed cszo iirc 03:28:09 yeah that was the one who griefed some cszo users 03:28:12 yeah, what flowey did was break one streak, get banned, then break more streaks as "retaliation" 03:28:12 we only have *one* weakness 03:28:14 gammafunk: well I have an example to point to - that dremurr guy 03:28:27 and it is distributed scoring with no central login 03:28:28 -!- Surgo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:28:30 and as some sort of attempt at an ultimatum 03:28:30 an example of what? 03:28:48 gammafunk: of someone getting mad because of what they perceived as overreaction and griefing more 03:28:49 imo we should refer to him as flowey instead of dreemurr because that fits his behaviour much better 03:29:02 sure but that doesn't mean don't ban people 03:29:06 sure 03:29:08 minqmay: haha, not really 03:29:16 dreemurr is an anagram for murderer 03:29:23 :D 03:29:32 hey now asgore was under a lot of pressure to kill those children 03:29:38 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:29:43 and Asriel is an anagram for serial 03:30:34 -!- crate has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:32:35 I think it would be nice if scoring prevent people being able to grief like this 03:32:43 fwiw the new scoreboard zxc and I are building does this 03:33:38 i think we're close to feature parity with cao it's just really ugly 03:33:48 well, slightly ugly 03:33:55 how does it prevent griefing 03:34:31 same name on different servers is not neccessarily part of the same nick group 03:34:40 you could make it demand a win from an account before it is eligible for scoring 03:34:48 because in that case, you really, really need to put some effort into your griefing 03:35:01 well, what is a nick group wrt scoring in this system? 03:35:09 basically, like sequell does it 03:35:42 although a pure whitelist. "this account is made up of games from these nick/server combos" 03:35:56 uh but that's not how it is right now 03:36:44 yeah, that's different 03:36:47 better though 03:36:54 but I still feel we should have some sort of syncing system 03:37:00 with a central registration server 03:37:07 that propagates things to other servers 03:37:14 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:37:19 I'm a bit unclear on the details, but you're providing an interface where people can register a nick? 03:37:41 and presumably make a scoring page based on this nick 03:38:04 haven't figured out how we get info from players as to their nick mapping, but yeah basically 03:40:32 TZer0: that would be nice, but it would require work on the webtiles side, and I'm not sure it's worth it without someone dedicated to the project 03:41:07 yeah 03:41:12 and I guess as far as gamedev tasks go 03:41:15 this one isn't that fun 03:41:33 setting up auth with a centralized server is pretty tricky if you don't want the auth server going down to bring down the whole server group 03:41:40 -!- Ultraviolent4 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:41:43 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:41:59 gammafunk: the idea would be for that not to happen 03:42:11 if the central server goes down, the only thing that should be allowed to break is registration 03:42:13 yeah, but making this system ourselves? 03:42:15 everything else should remain running 03:42:45 one way of dealing with this is replacing the current db with postgres and do hot standby or something 03:42:49 but that requires work 03:43:32 and I believe it requires some tedious setup while setting up a new server.. 03:44:25 additionally, we would have to have the old database available 03:44:29 for standalone servers 03:45:31 gammafunk: surviving master going down isn't so hard 03:45:38 Yeah. 03:45:41 gammafunk: you can replicate the userdb to each server in read-only mode 03:45:47 that's hot standby 03:45:49 if master dies, you can allow login but not registration 03:46:00 that's what I said... ;) 03:46:05 I'm not really talking hard "in theory" but more hard as in "would anyone actually ever set this up" 03:46:10 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:46:15 yeah 03:46:19 hence something like your work to fix cao scoring or FloodKiller's thing 03:46:22 develop it, set it up 03:46:28 yes 03:46:28 and make it work 03:46:31 maintain it 03:46:36 love it, caress it 03:46:40 tenderly... 03:46:45 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:46:46 server admins are pretty lazy, as seen by lack of upgrading to webtiles-changes 03:46:56 hey, that branch is janky 03:47:00 full of jank 03:47:06 not excluding myself, I still haven't updated my checkout to have the scoring system 03:47:32 I haven't had any energy to deal with serious changes on my server unfortunately. 03:47:38 if I get the time to make my fork, I might start from webtiles-changes, since there are some things that'd be cool to fix 03:47:41 My full-time job was giving me absolute hell last month 03:47:48 but it's going to be a few months before I'm able to work on that 03:49:18 -!- Surgo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:50:21 you know the dumb thing about volcanoes having red monsters is that you're more likely to overlook the monsters 03:50:25 almost didn't see a red ugly thing 03:50:36 gammafunk: maybe they need an outline 03:50:47 a red outline??? 03:51:01 :D 03:51:02 PERFECT 03:54:51 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:55:02 !tell pleasingfungus I read the new changelog post but I don't see mention of the blowgun nerf there or in previous posts. 03:55:02 zxc: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 03:56:07 zxc: it was either ninja added or you missed it 03:56:09 Poison needles scale with skill; they reach their old effectiveness at 8 Throwing, and improve from there. 03:56:16 Throwing speed scales like weapon skills, rather than being like unarmed combat; it’s floored at 0.7 turns per toss, up from 0.5, but scales faster with skill. 03:56:30 sigh, I ctrl-f blowgun 03:56:30 second one could mention it also applies to blowguns though(? i think) 03:56:48 !tell pleasingfungus Nevermind 03:56:48 zxc: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 04:00:09 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:02:06 -!- Denapoli has quit [Client Quit] 04:02:50 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 04:07:25 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:07:50 -!- MgDark_ has quit [Client Quit] 04:09:44 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:10:27 -!- Stendarr has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:12:34 yes, lasty has succeeded in getting me to no longer use blowguns on many guys 04:12:42 although i still carry them around 04:12:49 because i clearly don't value inventory space 04:18:35 -!- Surgo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:19:36 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:23:32 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:33:31 -!- Crauler has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:34:15 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:40:24 -!- Diabl0658 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:47:50 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:58:19 -!- djinni has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:58:44 -!- dustinm` has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00:55 -!- chamandro has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:03:36 -!- djinni has joined ##crawl-dev 05:05:11 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:05:22 -!- dustinm` has joined ##crawl-dev 05:19:00 -!- Wolfechu_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:19:10 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 05:19:54 -!- ldierk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:20:09 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 05:22:10 I receive the following error when trying to ssh into underhound.eu: 05:22:12 Received disconnect from 5.9.50.38: 2: Too many authentication failures for terminal 05:26:50 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:29:11 -!- 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2: Too many authentication failures for terminal 07:24:10 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:25:29 -!- djinni has joined ##crawl-dev 07:27:13 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 07:27:47 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:29:16 Btw. http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/howto mentions crawl.underhound.eu which does not exist 07:31:41 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:31:42 -!- techieAgnostic has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4-dev] 07:32:01 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 07:34:25 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:34:27 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:35:58 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:36:46 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 07:36:54 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:37:01 -!- namelastname112_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:38:20 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:38:41 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 07:38:49 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 07:43:24 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:46:30 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:46:31 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:46:41 oops 07:46:47 it should just be underhound.eu 07:47:13 ldierk: I'm using ssh as well 07:47:15 works fin here 07:47:17 let me check 07:47:45 ldierk: are you offering a bunch of ssh keys? 07:47:59 try using ssh -i (identitykey) terminal@underhound.eu 07:49:42 -!- nithck has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:55:17 $ ssh -i .ssh/cao_key terminal@underhound.eu 07:55:18 Received disconnect from 5.9.50.38: 2: Too many authentication failures for terminal 08:00:01 -!- omarax_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:01:05 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:02:02 Hmmmmm 08:02:20 kan you try to add like -vvvvv or something and see how many keys it is actually trying? 08:02:41 and were you in your home folder while doing that? 08:04:37 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:05:08 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:09:15 -vvvv showed that my ssh agent actually had more keys than I thought 08:09:43 after moving .ssh to somewhere else I can conncet 08:10:18 don't know what I changed, but the problem was obviously on my side 08:11:44 basically, you're offering lots of keys 08:11:52 and then the server goes "nope, you're trying too much!" 08:11:54 and disconnects you 08:12:15 remember, the -i-argument you provide is a path relative to your current directory 08:12:42 I see. But I normally use an ssh config with absolute path. 08:13:21 anyway thanks for the help! 08:14:17 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:14:56 -!- ldierk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:15:09 -!- Denapoli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:17:27 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:22:06 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:24:48 unavoidable shaft one step from the dungeon entry: !lm shinino shaft 43 -tv 08:26:25 -!- Shinino has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:27:09 zxc: haa. 08:34:43 -!- NotKat is now known as Kat_ 08:35:26 -!- Kat_ is now known as NotKat 08:37:30 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 08:40:47 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 08:44:21 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:45:33 -!- ECbian has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:49:24 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:49:26 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 08:52:21 Shaft one square next to entrance - only direction to go is shaft 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10367 by shinino 08:52:21 minqmay: i like your river too 08:52:21 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:54:16 -!- debo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 08:54:23 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 08:56:27 Resolution: Too Bad 08:57:38 -!- NotKat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:01:22 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:01:22 wheals: involuntary hard mode :( 09:01:45 they were playing a grfi so it all balances out 09:01:56 somoene suggested not having shafts on d:1 09:02:06 someone = streaker 09:02:18 that would be reasonable actually. 09:03:20 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:04:54 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:07:13 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 09:08:14 14 files changed, 404 insertions(+), 141 deletions(-) 09:08:19 jackpot! 09:08:25 Unfortunately, I cannot find it.. :( 09:10:38 -!- FunkyBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:12:20 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:16:11 -!- chamandro has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:17:20 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:18:40 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 09:20:37 -!- Surgo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:30:45 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:35:20 -!- NotKat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:40:04 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:48:28 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:50:57 -!- Athaboros has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:55:49 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 09:58:48 -!- Shinino__ is now known as Shinino 10:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00:41 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 10:01:50 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 10:04:07 -!- Zargon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:07:20 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:08:01 -!- Crauler has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:14:02 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:20:52 -!- Lasty_ has left ##crawl-dev 10:32:43 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 10:33:53 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 10:35:52 -!- Surgo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:39:06 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:45:42 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:50:18 -!- Crauler has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:50:24 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 10:54:31 -!- Krakhan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:56:03 -!- Dracunos7 is now known as Dracunos 10:59:51 -!- Nyvrem has joined ##crawl-dev 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:16 Does anyone here know if it is possible to change the base doll part in webtiles? 11:02:52 -!- Gamefreak has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:05:17 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:06:19 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.18-a0-1793-g3b92f7b: Fix spelling 10(4 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3b92f7b4791d 11:13:34 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:13:54 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:14:34 someday i will learn to spell 11:15:49 hm 11:16:28 ??cue 11:16:28 cue[1/4]: European Crawl server, located in Germany. http://underhound.eu:8080/ or underhound.eu, port 22, username: terminal, key: http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key.ppk See {putty} for Windows users. Runs 0.10-0.17 and trunk (DCSS, Zot, Sprint, Tut). Formely known as CLAN. 11:16:39 looks like this doesn't run webtiles? 11:16:47 er, disregard 11:17:56 someone posted "something something marijuana" as a comment on the last trunk changes post. on... 4/21. 11:18:45 ??? 11:19:04 pathetic 11:19:10 i'm very disappointed. 11:19:19 i'm gonna trash their comment and send them a chiding email. 11:19:24 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:21:03 timezones 11:21:07 perhaps 11:21:13 ya that seems to be it 11:21:17 still trashed their comment tho. 11:21:28 food 11:21:31 g 11:21:36 ? 11:22:07 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:28:22 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:50:38 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:51:29 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:52:32 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 11:53:08 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 11:57:09 'good' 11:59:30 server admins are pretty lazy, as seen by lack of upgrading to webtiles-changes. well, in my defense, I'm more of a scaredy cat with no free time. I need to update some stuff and in the past when I made updates, it always breaks something and leads to 2 hours of hunting for a solution to fix it. I don't have 2 contiguous hours to fix things if they break the server, so I persist on being outdated 11:59:44 (or maybe I'm just lazy. who knows!) 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:24 lazy :P 12:02:23 for every lazy you are, i will be two. 12:03:34 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 12:03:54 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:04:05 * geekosaur thinks of randal schwartz's 3 attributes of the programmer 12:04:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 12:11:22 -!- Stendarr has quit [Quit: Changing server...] 12:24:43 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:01 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:28:17 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 12:30:22 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 12:30:22 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:35:45 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:37:17 !tell pleasingfungus not a huge fan of clouds/envenomations there (in general i don't think "a book of magic, it's made out of " is a good pattern really) 12:37:18 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 12:38:05 !tell pleasingfungus i think the book of beasts one would work a lot better without trying to explicitly name actual spells, the resulting capitalisation is very awkward 12:38:06 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 12:38:56 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:39:47 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 12:39:48 MarvinPA: my feeling wrt envenomations was that it's fine to have one or two books that are 'made out of x' as long as it's not Literally Every Book (like it was two years ago) 12:39:48 PleasingFungus: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 12:40:00 i'm not trying to return to that situation 12:40:21 agreed that the clouds description isn't that hot. 12:40:24 true, i probably have a lot of inertia against that pattern as a result :P 12:42:06 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:42:46 i was thinking about trying to rework the 2-year-old book of clouds description into something punchier 12:42:48 so i'll probably do that 12:42:59 hmm also djinn is the plural rather than djinni i think? 12:43:16 ah, yep! i knew that looked wrong 12:43:24 good catch 12:43:48 i'm not sure i understand what you mean wrt book of beasts 12:43:59 -!- Nyvrem has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:44:08 like, "half-Spiders" definitely shouldn't be capitalised 12:44:14 oh 12:44:16 that's not book of beasts 12:44:16 and neither should "Blade Noses" 12:44:25 oh right yeah 12:44:49 that other one where you turn into beasts 12:45:19 (: 12:45:26 A student's primer to the magic arts of Transmutations, filled with lavish illustrations of spellcasting mistakes: half-wizard-half-spiders, blade noses, beaked tentacles where legs belong. The text is full of reassurances that these almost never happen. 12:46:04 i'm still sort of tempted to capitalize Blade Noses 12:46:11 just because the concept of the spell Blade Nose is very funny to me 12:47:13 i think it still gets that across without the capitalisation! 12:47:45 hmm maybe the last sentence isn't necessary on that one either 12:48:37 i'll trade you the capitalization for the last sentence. i think it helps the rhythm of the joke. 12:48:46 the last sentence helps, that is. 12:50:06 heh, i was thinking it stands on its own but sure 12:51:15 aw, now i'm torn. 12:51:19 i'll leave it for now and maybe trim it later. 12:51:29 (torn like a page...!???) 12:51:37 :( 12:54:24 haha 12:56:56 hrm 12:57:34 A book of magic spells for creating an assortment of clouds. It's difficult to read, as the text is randomly interrupted by descriptions of unusually-shaped clouds the author spotted while writing. 12:58:00 it feels like there's a good joke in here but i'm having trouble coaxing it out. wish there were good synonyms for 'cloud' 12:59:56 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:01:51 -!- Napkin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:02:28 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:03:55 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:03:57 -!- heteroy_ is now known as heteroy 13:04:02 -!- Napkin has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:04:02 -!- knu has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:04:02 -!- Excedrin has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:04:38 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:04:54 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:05:36 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1794-g139b600: Reflavor some book descriptions 10(16 hours ago, 1 file, 21+ 11-) 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13:56:56 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:14 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:02:07 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:02:30 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 14:02:48 -!- Franz__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:02:57 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:03:04 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 14:03:16 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:07:16 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:08:42 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:09:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 14:09:29 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 14:22:07 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:25:26 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 14:28:47 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:06 hey johnstein 14:34:27 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:34:33 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:34:38 if the imp branch is going to be down forever, is there anyway you could go in there and erase my active game on it? =) 14:37:33 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:38:21 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:39:08 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:39:41 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 14:47:26 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 14:50:07 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:52:18 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:54:03 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:54:04 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:54:47 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Client Quit] 14:54:54 -!- NotKat has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:56:20 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 15:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:01:27 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 15:03:15 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:04:40 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 15:05:01 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:06:37 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 15:09:14 !lm ProzacElf !explbr= 15:09:15 Broken query near '=' 15:09:22 ? 15:09:24 !lm ProzacElf explbr!= 15:09:25 473. [2016-04-19 07:57:44] ProzacElf the Basher (L11 LaBe of Trog) killed Grum on turn 10269. (D:8) 15:09:33 !lm ProzacElf explbr!= x=explbr 15:09:34 473. [2016-04-19 07:57:44] [explbr=faithful] ProzacElf the Basher (L11 LaBe of Trog) killed Grum on turn 10269. (D:8) 15:09:40 oh. heh, that might be weird to look up 15:09:48 b/c i still have that game going on 15:10:01 !lm ProzacElf alive x=explbr 15:10:02 31. [2016-04-19 07:57:44] [explbr=faithful] ProzacElf the Basher (L11 LaBe of Trog) killed Grum on turn 10269. (D:8) 15:10:13 I'm not seeing it show up 15:10:17 !locateall prozacelf 15:10:21 AstralHam: CSZO 0.17-a, L11 TrEn of Vehumet | CWZ 0.18-a, L1 KoWz of No God || BourgeoisCake: CSZO 0.17-a, L1 GhEn of No God || ChairmanMo: CSZO 0.17-a, L1 VpMo of No God || ProzacElf: CBRO imp 0.17-a, L1 ImFE of No God | CBRO faithful 0.18-a, L11 LaBe of Trog 15:10:31 ProzacElf: CBRO imp 0.17-a, L1 ImFE of No God 15:10:35 ah hm. 15:11:00 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 15:11:02 !cmd !locateall 15:11:02 Command: !locateall => .echo $(or $(join " || " $(split " | ^" $(sub 1 $(=locateall.raw $*)))) "Failed to locate $(name_fixup "$*").") 15:11:11 !cmd =locateall.raw 15:11:11 Command: =locateall.raw => !lm ${*:-.} alive s=name,gid o=-name join:" | " pfmt:"^${.}: ${child}" fmt:"\$(!lm ${*:-.} gid=${.} fmt:'$(upper $src) $explbr $cv, L$xl $char of ${god:-No God}')" stub:"^" 15:11:28 looks like it's using !lm, so even if I delete the game, it will probably show up in locateall 15:11:37 since the milestones are all in the sequell DB 15:12:09 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 15:12:10 oh 15:12:12 yuck 15:12:14 the game would probably have to be ended via quitting or dying 15:12:26 it'll disappear on its own eventually anyway 15:12:26 damn you sequell! 15:12:46 I think a better option would be to have !locateall ignore experimental games by default. then add an optional flag to allow them 15:12:55 or whatever the best sequellese would be 15:13:05 MarvinPA, why will it disappear on its own? 15:13:16 !kw alive 15:13:17 Keyword: alive => recent ktyp= type!=crash 15:13:26 !locateall prozacelf explbr= 15:13:26 it won't be recent any more 15:13:29 AstralHam: CSZO 0.17-a, L11 TrEn of Vehumet | CWZ 0.18-a, L1 KoWz of No God || BourgeoisCake: CSZO 0.17-a, L1 GhEn of No God || ChairmanMo: CSZO 0.17-a, L1 VpMo of No God 15:13:29 ah good point 15:13:33 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:14:05 ProzacElf, the explbr= addition also removes them for now 15:14:16 streak has the same issue 15:14:18 !streak 15:14:19 johnstein has 2 consecutive wins (GrBe, MfTm; VSBe, OgWr) and has won their last game (HuFi). 15:14:21 it's not that big a deal anyway 15:14:23 !streak explbr= 15:14:24 johnstein (explbr=) has 3 consecutive wins (VSBe, OgWr, HuFi), and can keep going! 15:14:53 I sacrificed a character in an experimental thinking it was my test cbrotest account, when setting up a new experimental 15:15:05 (it pre-seasons the log and stones files) 15:18:47 -!- WereVolvo1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:26:39 -!- Franz__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:26:44 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:37:20 -!- Nyvrem has joined ##crawl-dev 15:41:42 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest59090 15:42:38 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:42:42 -!- Surgo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:47:38 uhhh is this vault meant to look like a penis or is that a coincidence? http://i.imgur.com/jpgoUlO.png 15:48:00 that's not the spider end vault... 15:49:48 Can you change the base doll part in webtiles or is that only possible in the offline version? 15:52:51 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:05:28 -!- Gamefreak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:06:08 Nyvrem: only in the offline Tiles version, yeah 16:06:59 Damnable world - why does the standard demonspawn base-tile have to be the ugliest. 16:07:35 wear a helmet 16:07:50 Nyvrem: demons are ugly 16:08:02 if you have two +0 helmets, try swapping them to get a more complete face cover 16:08:02 it's lore 16:08:03 I can't when I have horns. 16:08:33 If demons are ugly why are the alternate demonspawn base tiles so pretty - especially when paired with hair? 16:08:35 horns are adooooooorable 16:08:39 ...on a felid 16:08:47 They're also adorable if you aren't demonspawn-pink 16:09:13 the player doll tiles are all kind of ugly 16:09:34 Demonspawn-5 is the best. 16:13:29 -!- ldierk has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:16:26 @??goblin 16:16:32 gretell still down 16:19:46 -!- ystael_ is now known as ystael 16:20:09 -!- Surgo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:20:12 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 16:20:48 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:22:32 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:23:51 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:26:27 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:26:42 -!- spriseris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:27:58 -!- packetloss has quit [Client Quit] 16:28:33 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 16:30:13 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:31:13 -!- GauHelldragon2 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:31:59 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:32:53 -!- mibert_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:33:26 rip dj 16:34:04 "This book feels wet to the touch." 16:34:45 dang forgot to scroll down, the description rules though 16:37:29 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 16:38:21 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 16:39:39 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:42:10 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:45:12 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:46:54 -!- Nyvrem has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:46:57 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 16:47:22 -!- Shinino has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:49:26 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 16:50:03 -!- Diabl0658 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:52:00 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:52:20 "I haven't made any video guides, but amalloy, another DCSS dev who is also a careful player, has made videos of his games that you can find on his Youtube channel." 16:52:51 now this should have a footnote about thinking chei is good but sadly markdown doesn't support footnotes 16:53:28 -!- xaibudo has joined ##crawl-dev 16:54:38 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 16:55:14 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 16:58:18 -!- docpaisley has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:59:29 * geekosaur did note 0.17.2 discussion overnight; has to patch up some expired build certs (have them but the xcode for pre-10.9 doesn't know what to do with them so manual certificate management is needed) 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:02:45 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:04:31 geekosaur: have you ever made a guide for doing these builds? Not sure if it would really be worth your time, but probably a couple devs have or could get the developer thingie to do builds as well 17:04:47 Maybe that's wishful thinking 17:04:53 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:05:09 I have not, but I have notes on turning the stuff I currently have to do manually (mostly the signing part) into a script 17:06:08 the hard part of that is the moving target: I have to do the builds on 10.8 in 10.7 API compatibility mode, but the signing has to be done on 10.10 or later (used to be 10.9 but Apple let a cert in the auth chain for 10.9 lapse so new certs are rejected) 17:06:40 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:07:16 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 17:07:19 also doublechecking that there aren't any moved or added things that need to be signed (I think the only special case there is the font file needs to be signed) 17:08:20 I could probably just add a section to the install guide 17:09:30 there's not a lot special that needs to be done although if you're shooting for supporting 10.7 or 10.8 there is a particular extra flag needed to enable C++11 support 17:14:48 -!- kajarainbow has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:15:36 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:16:56 -!- JoeltCo has quit [Quit: Quitting] 17:17:03 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:19:47 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 17:20:02 -!- Blade- has joined ##crawl-dev 17:20:53 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 17:24:12 -!- shinino_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:25:04 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:29:26 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 17:29:34 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 17:31:10 -!- Surgo has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:31:14 -!- Guest59090 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:31:14 -!- siepu_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:35:03 -!- docpaisley_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:35:17 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:36:37 -!- GauHelldragon2 is now known as GauHelldragon 17:37:21 gammafunk: might want to link to https://www.youtube.com/user/asdfgvbd/playlists?view=50&shelf_id=2&sort=dd instead, now that i've figured out how to categorize my videos. that's a link to just my DCSS stuff 17:37:41 amalloy: ok, good, I thought about doing that but was worried that the link might change 17:37:45 but I'll do that 17:37:50 i don't think it will 17:38:19 -!- docpaisley has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:38:56 oh, and automating the code signing is not really possible with apple's tooling 17:39:39 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:40:33 (you can, if you don't mind losing all control over what uses the signing key, click "always allow" at the dialog. but it will always insist on having the GUI available in case it needs to prompt.) 17:40:34 -!- shnurlf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:40:52 Does apple hold meetings to discuss how to make their build process as obtuse as possible? 17:41:00 Hearing what geekosaur goes through, I have to wonder 17:41:39 sometimes I think so... 17:42:13 I.. have come to detest the development environment 17:43:27 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:44:04 -!- Vall has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:44:21 i like the idea of you like...waiting at the reception desk at apple's office, and the receptionist asks, "What are you here for?" and you say "I've come...to detest the development environment" 17:45:06 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:47:06 * geekosaur doesn't even know whose desk to upper-desker >.> 17:49:05 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 17:49:14 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 17:51:31 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest9284 17:52:21 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:53:10 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:55:28 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:56:48 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:02:17 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals 18:08:19 -!- packet_loss has quit [] 18:09:40 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:12:53 -!- Guest9284 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:13:34 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:14:49 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-a0-1794-g139b600 (34) 18:17:30 -!- Dingbat_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:21:53 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:28:16 -!- minqmay has joined ##crawl-dev 18:31:57 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:32:24 -!- miek_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:34:46 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest67715 18:38:02 -!- miek_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:39:50 -!- Guest67715 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:45:01 -!- Franz__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:48:51 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:52:36 -!- ythm has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:52:46 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 18:59:59 -!- Arglure has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:07 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:00:10 -!- Dracunos has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:02:42 -!- Owner_ is now known as Guest89894 19:05:16 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:05:54 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 19:07:16 -!- Guest89894 is now known as heteroy-away 19:07:37 !lg sowus 19:07:38 No games for sowus. 19:07:38 -!- zibudo has joined ##crawl-dev 19:09:09 wow 19:09:13 we still claim that $ increases your score 19:10:09 last updated: sep 2013 19:10:17 pretty sure that was wrong even then... 19:11:16 -!- xaibudo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:12:25 Next you are given menus of species and character classes from which to choose. A dwarf, orc, ogre, or troll Fighter is a good bet. 19:12:45 -!- Franz__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:13:29 i logged onto a european server once, and the orcish mines were littered with £ instead of $ 19:13:36 haha 19:14:16 startlingly, i think that's the only really wrong thing in the quickstart guide. that and claiming monsters are represented by letters of the alphabet, of course 19:14:30 soon the suggestions for (p)raying will be wrong, but not yet! 19:14:44 oh my god 19:14:44 If you are badly wounded, you can run away from monsters to buy some time. Try losing them in corridors, or as a very last resort find a place where you can run around in circles to heal while the mon- ster chases you. 19:15:01 pillar-dancing: officially endorsed strategy 19:15:07 i can't tell if that's a tiles joke, or serious comment about some monsters being numbers 19:15:22 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 19:16:18 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:16:52 -!- hellmonk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:17:06 tiles joke 19:17:16 and, also, it's not a joke 19:17:20 tiles is very serious. 19:18:25 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:18:28 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:18:48 i saw a very serious tiles situation on reddit yesterday: https://i.imgur.com/nYjrpAA.png 19:18:59 er 19:19:08 that looks 19:19:11 surviveable? 19:19:15 ??? 19:19:22 'near starving' is a good touch 19:19:25 wait, shit 19:19:25 he probably didn't survive 19:19:28 they're 6* zin 19:19:32 right! 19:19:32 there's literally no reason not to survive that 19:19:42 well i don't know what his invo was 19:19:52 well, they paused long enough to take a screenshot, right? 19:19:52 and upload it 19:19:56 so that's a good ign 19:20:01 ah, he did survive 19:20:08 Left this one for now and finished Shoals instead, I'll come back to it. Need more magic res so I can take a shot at Elf. 19:20:10 also gserps aren't gonna be able to teleport him back into a mess 19:20:33 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:20:40 gserps don't teleport you 19:21:02 naga mages and greater nagas cast teleport other; gserps cast blink allies encircling (which still works on Fo!) 19:21:53 i had begun to question myself as soon as i said that 19:21:59 lol. really top-notch suggestion for that situation from the reddit peanut gallery: Immolation, blink, discord - problem solved. 19:22:03 i knew they had blink encircling but I couldn't remember if they had the shifter one 19:22:08 god, discord would be so good there 19:22:12 hard to get running by snake tho 19:22:19 also hard to blink 19:22:23 haha 19:22:25 and immolation...? 19:22:28 maybe for the legendary dean of deens... 19:22:40 we claim that 'P' can be used to remove jewellery. interesting 19:22:46 i wonder when that was last true 19:24:20 lol, that ThreeInvisibleDucks guy from tavern is posting on reddit now 19:24:32 https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/4fsglb/so_you_want_to_win_crawl_heres_the_tips_that_help/ 19:24:52 "worship trog or okawaru, press aa a lot, don't fight crowds. win" 19:24:59 which like, none of that is bad advice 19:28:47 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 19:30:13 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:31:10 For example: crawl -arena "2 place:Lair:10 v 3 place:Vault:7" 19:32:11 -!- wheals__ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:32:23 huh, this claims that arena defaults to randomly placing monsters from d:20 19:32:31 i wonder if that's still true 19:32:37 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:32:43 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:33:46 ah, Depths:1 19:33:46 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 19:34:13 god, arena is so complex 19:34:15 baffling 19:34:21 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 19:34:31 what was the last time someone used the ban_glyphs parameter? 19:36:00 heh, we note that tiles is slow on the intel i810 19:36:01 -!- wheals_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:36:06 released in early 1999 19:36:41 luckily, it runs ok on the i865, released... 2003, looks like? 19:37:06 -!- wheals__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:39:55 amalloy: it's all you need to win, amalloy 19:40:06 nothing else... 19:40:17 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1795-ga56a929: Update quickstart.txt and arena.txt 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 25+ 30-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a56a929296b6 19:40:25 i noticed there's a vault somewhere that places on D:8-16 or something 19:40:36 trog/oka both on d:9? you better just quit 19:40:46 gammafunk: that's why you start be 19:40:47 duh 19:40:48 gammafunk: actually though trog is on D:0 19:40:59 hard to worship oka on those though! 19:41:07 shit, i forgot to mention tab 19:41:07 maybe I should tell him to amend his guide 19:41:25 -!- WorkSight has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 19:41:26 "always start Be in case both the trog and oka altars are on D:9" 19:42:34 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1796-gb5bbf13: Mention autofight in the quickstart 10(19 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b5bbf139174c 19:43:02 I hope RandomTiles is also mentioned in the quickstart, very important imo 19:43:21 (-: 19:44:08 My console "action shot" has "Sif Muna whispers, 'Become a very ugly thing!'" 19:44:21 which was unintenional, but great 19:44:22 suits you... 19:44:39 brb 19:44:44 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0.2/20160407164938]] 19:45:52 -!- reaverbot has joined ##crawl-dev 19:46:09 gammafunk: console action shot? 19:46:23 ah 19:46:43 good font 19:47:14 from your screenshot i can confidently conclude crawl is mostly a game about doors 19:47:47 heh 19:47:49 my biggest regret is that it's a vampire 19:47:53 but it's a su of sif, at least 19:49:35 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:52:42 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:54:22 yeah, god forbid they get an "action shot" with any action. just channel channel channel, baby 19:54:44 chei is all about action. You pound the worker ant into dust!!!! 19:56:04 hey I put "action shot" in quotes; that was actually the ss I took when we were talking about our terminal fonts last, to show you what mine looke dlike 19:56:14 so not really an action shot 19:56:15 johnstein: like I said, i'm lazy too :P 19:56:42 Later on I'll find one with me channeling 6 times in a row behind some Xs or something 19:58:16 -!- bsdbeard is now known as } 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:30 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:05:47 are the release/tourney dates locked in? 20:06:30 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 20:06:47 lol 20:06:59 wow, i was just kind of an asshole on tavern 20:07:35 ProzacElf: You're definitely the first person to do that 20:10:34 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:11:25 -!- shellybean1981 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:11:57 Someone was mean on the Internet?! 20:12:06 Shut it down. 20:14:13 ProzacElf: and after you're done being mean, you'll have meatloaf 20:15:37 FR: remove unarmed combat from the game, it's the only way to get rid of these horrible misconceptions about UC and base damage 20:17:17 Someone in that thread said Hero increases UC damage by "way more than 100%" and I was dubious about that 20:17:38 I guess if you have 0 UC it would? 20:18:54 yeah, but only because 0 UC is so bad 20:19:54 I would watch Lasty do the MuMo challenge 20:19:59 heck, I'd even donate 20:20:03 ??mumo_challenge 20:20:03 I don't have a page labeled mumo_challenge in my learndb. 20:20:05 ??mumo 20:20:05 mumo[1/2]: http://i.imgur.com/z9NcfY3.jpg 20:20:06 What's the challenge? 20:20:28 deep from the heart of 4chan, comes a threat more terrifying than you ever imagined... 20:21:03 so nothing but UC? 20:21:17 a shield with no magical props aside from like resists? I think 20:21:20 it's maximum pain 20:22:03 "fuck bucklers" 20:22:18 -!- Franz__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:22:20 the image of the hungry ghost ring vault 20:22:33 and "make a friendship that will last a lifetime" is really funny, I admit 20:22:55 gammafunk: I'd play that for donations :p 20:23:04 but I'd probably die 20:23:13 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:23:16 Donate the proceeds to whichever charity 4chan hates the most 20:23:53 ??mumo[1 20:23:53 mumo[1/2]: http://i.imgur.com/z9NcfY3.jpg 20:23:54 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 20:24:00 ??mumo[2 20:24:00 mumo[2/2]: MuMo, no body armour, no weapons, no gods nor magics, no amulets, evocables, running, bucklers, slaying, or regen, and no throwing anything unless it's funny 20:24:05 did anyone ever win it 20:24:24 yeah, there are records at the end of the image 20:24:28 but implojin did most recently 20:24:32 why does it say no slaying/regen if you can't use weapons or armour 20:24:34 I watched a bunch of it, it was pretty funny 20:24:39 oh, rings? 20:24:45 You can wear rings that aren't slaying and amulets that aren't regen? 20:25:01 yeah only resist rings 20:25:19 it doesn't say no protection/EV rings... 20:25:23 Can I use dismissal? 20:25:25 I think it does somewhere? 20:25:29 no it's "no amulets" 20:25:33 so you can't even wear one 20:25:34 "no bennu" ??? 20:25:48 are they mummy killers 20:25:59 !lg * killer~~bennu s=race 20:26:00 105 games for * (killer~~bennu): 23x Demonspawn, 18x Deep Elf, 6x Gargoyle, 6x Ogre, 6x Naga, 5x Vampire, 5x High Elf, 4x Formicid, 4x Hill Orc, 3x Tengu, 3x Octopode, 3x Mummy, 3x Ghoul, 2x Minotaur, 2x Centaur, 2x Vine Stalker, Purple Draconian, Kobold, Merfolk, Deep Dwarf, Black Draconian, Spriggan, Human, Felid, Demigod, Halfling 20:26:03 probably something about exploiting them? 20:26:16 to get into trj vault, implojin had to find an eye of devestation 20:26:17 How do you exploit bennu? 20:26:20 ah 20:26:22 and lure it down like 4 floors 20:26:32 bennu can destroy walls? 20:26:44 no I'm guessing that's something...maybe about heal? 20:26:48 bennu (08b) | Spd: 16 | HD: 14 | HP: 62-89 | AC/EV: 6/16 | Dam: 2708(holy), 1813(drain), 18 | evil, see invisible, fly, regen | Res: 06magic(140), 04fire+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++ | Vul: 12drown, 08holy | XP: 1288 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 20:26:48 %??bennu 20:26:54 I'm not sure tbh 20:27:08 secret tech so secret even the developers are mystified 20:27:41 Their holy-branded peck attacks can be surprisingly harmful if you lack solid physical protection. The ghostly flame bursts they emit upon death will heal you, however. 20:28:32 it had something to do with them not resisting torment too 20:28:33 iirc 20:30:32 -!- hellmonk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:31:16 Lasty: i'm also making mac and cheese p= 20:31:54 and to be fair, i did cut my finger 20:31:57 ProzacElf: you're a buy lad 20:32:00 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1797-gc18daef: Remove Hive. 10(5 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c18daef7b943 20:32:05 busy too 20:32:07 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:32:10 https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/4frqfj/whats_the_most_immoral_act_you_perform_in_game/ 20:32:17 glad this didn't get posted on tavern tbh 20:32:26 Given that you have to get the tomb rune, what does "no bennu" mean? 20:32:30 Can you not kill them? 20:32:40 I think it's actually saying you can't play past 0.15 20:32:52 because those bennu exist and do that thing 20:32:57 svalbard caretaker is wrong 20:33:05 gammafunk: oh 20:33:11 the slaves don't leave gold if you're with gozag! 20:33:12 !lg implojin won mumu x=cv 20:33:13 No keyword 'mumu' 20:33:14 playing 0.15 might be a dealbreaker 20:33:19 !lg implojin won mumo x=cv 20:33:21 1. [cv=0.17] Implojin the Farming Grand Master (L27 MuMo), escaped with the Orb and 7 runes on 2015-12-19 02:43:31, with 2392453 points after 296499 turns and 1d+5:58:11. 20:33:27 well implo used 0.17 so 20:33:50 yeah I think you just can't exploit that 20:33:50 !tell pleasingfungus you desecrated linley's own words!!! 20:33:51 wheals: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 20:33:55 my google-fu informs me that implojin initially died to bennus several times and added that line as a joke 20:34:04 ah, haha 20:34:08 that's funny 20:34:17 I lost a speedrun to a stupid bennu 20:34:19 hah 20:34:24 misjudged how much damage they do 20:35:01 Lasty: but please don't do the MuMo challenge, it was a joke 20:35:09 We want to see you live to the next release 20:36:23 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:36:31 gammafunk: haha 20:36:36 no prob, just don't collect donations 20:38:14 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 20:38:57 all those donations can just go to me 20:39:02 i'm cool with it =p 20:39:35 -!- shnurlf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:41:06 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest16815 20:41:45 -!- xaibudo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:42:10 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:44:13 -!- zibudo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:45:24 xaibudo: I sent you a message, but the ssh worked on cjr 20:45:32 oh, I can test the save download maybe 20:47:36 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:48:03 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:48:04 -!- reaverbot has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:51:26 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:59:11 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 20:59:56 -!- Diabl0658 has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02:04 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:04:33 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 21:04:54 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:06:11 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:06:49 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:07:18 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:07:48 -!- punpun has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:07:59 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:08:10 wheals: i'm not the first :) 21:08:15 also extremely good anti-hive commit 21:09:22 -!- heteroy-away has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:09:41 -!- chamandro has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:10:34 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 21:10:35 The build was broken. (master - b5bbf13 #5311 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/124896404 21:10:35 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 21:11:29 -!- TenFootPit has quit [Client Quit] 21:15:01 -!- CKyle has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:15:13 -!- Guest16815 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:16:10 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:17:38 -!- Zibudo has joined ##crawl-dev 21:19:39 -!- xaibudo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:21:00 hey 21:21:04 !messages 21:21:04 No messages for Zibudo. 21:21:39 gammafunk: did you test the save download? 21:21:52 oh, let me do that 21:22:52 Zibudo: oh, looks like you need to update some stuff in dgl to not refer to cszo 21:22:59 https://dobrazupa.org/saves/beem-crawl-git-c18daef7b9-160422-0122.tar.bz2 21:23:04 is the url it gave me 21:23:08 but lets see if the right one works 21:23:20 Zibudo: can you see that save file in the right dir? 21:23:54 Zibudo: http://jorgrun.rocks/saves/beem-crawl-git-c18daef7b9-160422-0122.tar.bz2 is 404 21:24:28 oh, maybe that's not the right url 21:24:30 gammafunk: i see it in the right dir, but that should be 404 because saves just points to auth-save pl script 21:24:44 gammafunk: i think it's someting like ?file=... 21:24:53 Zibudo: no, I think the apache redirect handles this 21:25:00 redirecting the request to the CGI 21:25:12 maybe I'm wrong though 21:25:43 you're right, the rewrite is RewriteRule ^/saves/(.*)$ /cgi-bin/auth-save-downloader.pl?file=$1 [PT] so the file you reference should be inputted into the script 21:25:48 so something is up 21:26:10 the rcfiles dir also no longer seems to work 21:26:18 well there's morgue 21:26:25 oh! 21:26:28 needs www.? 21:26:31 http://www.jorgrun.rocks/rcfiles/ 21:26:32 yea 21:26:49 yep 21:26:54 it works, save downloaded 21:27:04 using www? 21:27:06 yes 21:27:09 it's 404 without 21:27:12 as are the other dirs 21:27:15 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 21:27:38 yea lemme make sure i rewrite non www to www because that was my intention 21:29:32 Zibudo: correct url is www.jorgrun.rocks/saves/beem-crawl-git-c18daef7b9-160422-0122.tar.bz2 if you want to test with your auth 21:30:25 gamafunk: cool, works for me too 21:31:33 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:34:33 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:40:02 gammafunk: the url without www works now 21:40:18 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:40:25 yep, works for me 21:41:20 Zibudo: about how many games do you think you can support at once? 21:41:35 Or I guess, are there any limits we should be aware of 21:41:43 gammafunk: do you have any metrics on how much a game takes? 21:42:11 I think one crawl proc can take 30-50mb active memory 21:42:20 chequers can probably give you some better metics 21:42:23 *metric 21:42:41 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:42:58 cszo is/was 8 4-core cpus with I think 32GB 21:43:12 but I'm not sure what all else neil had running on it 21:43:18 gammafunk: i think mine is similar 21:43:19 it was doing some non-crawl things 21:43:33 oh, well then the answer is probably "enough" 21:43:59 gammafunk: yea mine runs non-crawl things too, but none so that it would show probably maybe lag like at midnight when some scripts run 21:44:10 i really don't see a problem 21:44:20 yeah, less players on at that time overall 21:44:25 Zibudo: i budget 50mb per crawl process 21:44:43 chequers: how did you handle that for crawl? 21:44:59 just have enough ram. I don't do resource quotas or anything 21:45:07 also, compilation can take about a gig of ram at peak 21:45:21 yea i have 32gb so i think we should be fine 21:45:36 network is negligible, cpu for games is negligible and just make sure compilation is niced 21:45:43 io negligible 21:46:36 -!- MadCoyote is now known as FunkyBomb 21:47:42 gammafunk: speak of the devil... mumo is active on cpo! 21:48:05 playing dcss-ca tho 21:48:15 that's definitely not mumo challenge 21:48:43 mumo itself among the weakest combos, but not hard without restrictions of course 21:49:13 hang on, are you saying you don't call the weakest combos of crawl "hard"? 21:49:21 you do? 21:49:39 depends what you mean by hard, I suppose 21:50:13 players can throw large rocks if they have a large species OR 30 str … 21:50:14 …or higher 21:50:30 win with only one try is somewhat challenging, but just win it in as many tries as it takes certainly isn't hard 21:50:46 -!- heteroy-away has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 43.0.1/20151216175450]] 21:50:58 yeah ok, given infinite time I don't think crawl is hard either :) 21:51:05 it wouldn't take many tries 21:51:18 or rather it shouldn't for experienced players 21:54:09 https://crawl.project357.org/static/scoreboard/index.html secret preview 21:54:11 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 21:54:12 The build is still failing. 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I think not! 22:04:24 *does any 22:04:55 Be Potato 22:07:42 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:09:11 when i first heard of berotato i thought it was associated with BeRoTracker 22:09:27 and i thought, thats cool, i should tell that guy that his midi-to-mod feature was amazing 22:10:02 i still assume johnstein's irl last name is Rotato. That's the only way the name makes sense to me 22:11:33 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:11:56 -!- Stonar has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:13:01 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 22:15:32 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:16:06 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 22:17:03 j-rotato 22:18:49 what do you think my irl last name is 22:18:53 rash browns 22:19:41 elf ends from like 2013 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10368 by minmay 22:19:55 Brown. 22:19:57 something slightly weird european 22:20:00 some very common, boring last name. 22:20:22 Horowitz or similar 22:21:07 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:22:47 chequers, it's a mefightclub thing. definitely an 'in-joke'. remember, I never intended to make a public server. I just wanted something to futz around with (basically what dbro is). 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