00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01:58 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1784-ga939a68 (34) 00:03:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:04:31 -!- chamandro has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:12:37 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:14:42 -!- punpun has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:21:38 -!- Shadou has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:22:04 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 00:23:33 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:28:04 -!- GauHelldragon2 is now known as GauHelldragon 00:36:16 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:42:54 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest26991 00:46:33 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:46:59 -!- Guest26991 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:48:43 https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/4f81y9/is_there_a_way_to_autoeat_mutagenic_chunks/ 00:48:46 title says it all 00:49:22 of course then you'll want to autoquaff !mutation 00:54:43 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:59:50 it'd be a good feature for mutarobin 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:44 -!- Nerem has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:03:47 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1784-ga939a68 (34) 01:07:18 is the chance of a good mutation from mutagenic chunks the same as !mutation? 01:07:23 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:09:36 how does the phantom mirror description not have a quote yet 01:12:11 With everything happening today / You don't know whether you're coming or going / But you think that you're on your way / Life lined up on the mirror don't blow it, woo. -- Lil' Wayne 01:12:14 -!- hellmonk_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:12:28 chequers, yes !mutation should be exactly like eating 3 mutagenic chunks in a row 01:12:41 in old versions if you ate rotting mutagenic chunks they were more likely to give bad mutations 01:13:21 chequers: but blue oyster cult already has a song that's literally about an evil magic mirror, what more do you need 01:13:22 How Can Mirrors Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real -- Jaden Smith 01:13:28 okay yes, jaden smith wins 01:13:30 I take it back 01:15:04 is it really an evil mirror? 01:15:11 i think that's your prejudice speaking 01:16:59 do you hear or fear or / do i smash the mirror? 01:21:18 I know, I'm being mirror-normative and ought to check my privilege 01:21:36 I shouldn't apply my ethnocentric sense of judeo-christian morality to unknowable space beings 01:21:38 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:22:35 excuse me, they identify as "phantoms", "unknowable space being" is just a slur 01:27:58 peeps: I seem to be able to trigger "autotarget lag" more often, and more thickly, if I throw small stones all over the ground 01:29:00 this theory seems to stand up to repeat testing in the orcish mines at least 01:29:17 tell... I dunno, whoever it is that would want to know 01:30:13 i noticed it oreoccur in orc:2 with the crossbows ending too, but it might just be coincidence 01:30:17 it's not about the quantity of small stones, but the fact that a lot of squares have a stone 01:30:42 a single tile pile of 300 doesn't seem to do much 01:31:14 wrong channel 01:31:50 well, it affects upstream, not just circusfork :P 01:39:09 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 01:39:50 fixit_friend: well a stack of 300 stones is one object 01:40:04 it just has a "quantity" variable 01:41:21 -!- Zeor1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:42:26 makes sense, but I had to try it just in case ;) 01:43:38 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest11636 01:43:43 before claiming I had repeatable lab-friendly testing results 01:47:48 -!- Guest11636 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:57:57 -!- FireSight has quit [] 01:58:12 !tell wheals could action counts also be put in for autoexplore, autofight, move and manual attack? 01:58:12 chequers: OK, I'll let wheals know. 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:11:22 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 02:17:53 chequers: I think I'm going to merge those vaults with any fixes tomorrow, but I did notice in your fix for wizard prison that you removed the ancient lich yet didn't remove its monster definition in the header? 02:18:12 it looked that was when I was glancing anyhow 02:18:13 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:18:55 that's possible. I might not actually fix up the vaults before freeze, because I want to get this new scoreboard up and running in time for 0.18, and finish the trailer, and do tourney 02:19:14 yeah, I can do any fixes so it's not a problem 02:19:34 might as well get some of those PRs closed 02:20:01 I need to finish up some beem stuff and make a reddit post or something about it 02:20:19 cool! I think the only other issue is that chequers_temple_overflow_minitemple might have a LUA typo leading to mysterious error on game start 02:20:36 I'll look out for that then 02:21:36 -!- jefus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:24:49 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:34:36 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 02:39:44 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 02:39:46 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 02:41:23 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:43:37 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 02:44:45 you are prompted for walking into a travel-excluded area, but not for taking a known staircase into a travel-excluded area, unless an exclusion is *centered* on the stairs themselves. this seems bad 02:46:02 really? 02:46:10 i feel like that was different at some point 02:46:10 if that is the case then that is bad 02:46:22 but I wouldn't have thought that was the case 02:46:40 although i guess i tend to put exclusions on the stairs if i don't want to use them 02:47:06 %git 02:47:07 07Lasty02 * 0.18-a0-1784-ga939a68: Nerf rElec to the same level as other resists (crate) 10(14 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a939a6871a3d 02:47:51 was this discussed recently by crate? I just saw the commit being made 02:48:08 or is it more 'fix something we've known for a while' 02:50:55 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:58:03 beem should be opt-out, not opt-in 02:59:04 sometimes I go into a random player's game just to show them how to subscribe to beem... and usually they thank me (because for whatever reason, they wanted beem but never followed the instruction to type !beem help) 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:03:54 what server is beem on? 03:06:20 -!- Ultraviolent4 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:08:14 I used to think it was on cszo only, but it's also on cao. it can be "hard to find" because it needs to be active in someone's game for you to invite it to be active in your game 03:08:28 which makes me wonder if it's hiding on every server ;) 03:08:42 surely it's on cbro, I just haven't seen it yet / looked very hard for it 03:09:18 you can get it for your server here: https://github.com/gammafunk/beem 03:10:35 I can pop onto cao if you want it to meet it and tell it to start following your games there 03:10:51 *to meet you 03:11:38 ??cbro 03:11:38 cbro[1/4]: Server in Georgia, US: crawl.beRotato.org -- ssh port 22, username crawler, keys at http://crawl.beRotato.org/crawl/keys (no password access). In case of DNS problems, use crawl.boylecraft.net. Webtiles at: http://crawl.beRotato.org. Use glyph/sigil ^ for bots 03:12:06 i play on cpo :) 03:12:36 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1784-ga939a68 (34) 03:12:52 what?! why? that's in straya! 03:12:59 :D 03:13:19 nice one gammafunk 03:13:55 are you hosting a single master copy i can ask you to add cpo too? or do I run my own copy on cpo 03:14:12 can I disable the shatter animation? 03:15:21 you can run one on cpo, but it would need a webtiles-changes version 03:15:30 I think the json has changed? maybe not though 03:15:33 -!- argent0 has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:15:44 let me try really quick, maybe that's just for rc stuff and the rest is fine 03:19:21 btw, did you ever think of extending beem to be an IRC relay? 03:21:16 hrm, is freenode having issues right now? 03:21:21 how do you mean IRC relay? 03:21:36 if you mean responding to irc itself, probably not 03:21:53 although I had thought about that for the bot commands specifically 03:22:06 but it seems like there are other bots for that already? 03:22:11 for irc relay 03:22:23 I think kramin does that, doesn't it? 03:22:28 ??kramin 03:22:29 kramin[1/5]: DrAK MuNe VpEn TeCj 03:22:33 ??kramin[2 03:22:33 kramin[2/5]: arch wizard of lisp or whatever sequell is programmed in. often seen dabbling in {black magic} 03:22:36 ??kramin[ 03:22:36 I don't have a page labeled kramin[ in my learndb. 03:22:38 ??kramin[3 03:22:38 kramin[3/5]: !lg . won s=${int(nhour(end)+13)%24} o=-. -graph 03:22:39 or 03:22:47 not quite 03:22:50 forget what the bot is called 03:22:55 I meant like bridging irc chat and game chat 03:23:01 what do you think about beem being opt out instead of opt in? 03:23:02 oh I see 03:23:29 opt out would consume a lot more connections when people may not even use it 03:23:48 and beem has autolisten, which listens to the most-spectated non-subscriber game on each server 03:23:54 ah, ok 03:24:18 but in an ideal world it would be directly integrated into the server somehow and not go through something like irc 03:24:43 what do you mean opt-out? 03:25:32 ha yes. no one would even know its name was beem, gamma! it would just be the magic chat box full of info 03:25:53 cheqqy: as in, if you are playing a game, it is watching and ready to answer your deepest questions 03:26:10 without having to find it and do !beem subscribe 03:26:11 yeah, and it would allow using color in chat, but I mean ideally we'd have "real chat" that was something a lot better, a deep rabbit hole I guess 03:26:20 hrm, what's the websocket url for cpo? 03:26:21 though apparently finding it isn't as hard as I thought 03:26:37 gammafunk: nfi 03:26:57 /socket, it seems 03:27:03 (according to chrome dev tools) 03:27:22 yeah 03:29:42 gammafunk: kramell, of course 03:29:55 ??kramell 03:29:55 kramell[1/6]: Allows you to get announcements for your clan in a private channel. It will also allow you to query Sequell or Cheibriados from your private channel. 03:30:01 ??kramell[2 03:30:01 kramell[2/6]: In ##kramell, 1) Say '$channel #yourchannelname' 2) Say '$name #yourchannelname nick' for each player in your clan 03:30:03 ??kramell[3 03:30:03 kramell[3/6]: #fn:filter lets you use regexes to filter what is cross-posted, if there are multiple filters they are ANDed 03:30:05 ??kramell[4 03:30:05 kramell[4/6]: #fn:colour lets you colour announcements using regexes (type ${help} in ##kramell to see exact usage) 03:30:06 ??kramell[5 03:30:06 kramell[5/6]: If it is not online or not working, send a !tell to Kramin 03:30:07 ??kramell[6 03:30:08 kramell[6/6]: Source: https://github.com/Kramin42/Kramell/blob/master/server.js 03:30:10 there we go 03:30:12 yeah, we used kramell on EFnet for a while 03:30:23 but then kramin had issues and we went back to our older inferior bots 03:30:48 you have to be a lot more sophisticated if you're really gonna bridge between irc and chat 03:31:14 it's something like what twitch does, I guess 03:31:21 which honestly work the same as kramell more or less, we just don't have to badger kramin when they screw up 03:31:39 since i haven't seen him around since shortly after the last tourney anyway 03:31:53 not sure how their web browser interacts with their chat servers, but the chat servers are also available through irc 03:31:57 or i guess the last csdc 03:32:01 @??kramin badger 03:32:09 which is how beem can do twitch chat stuff 03:32:22 @??bagder of kramin 03:32:47 I'll have to see why, but beem's getting destroyed tasks when connecting to cpo 03:33:07 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:33:18 probably the dangerous australian wildlife 03:33:28 my guess is the json is a bit different 03:33:43 but it wouldn't be hard to make a webtiles-changes compat class 03:34:12 well if you ever do, i'll use beem! 03:37:01 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:43:09 another LRD targeter complaint: it seems to be unaware that LRD can be used through granite statues 03:51:17 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:51:19 -!- Ultraviolent4 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:54:37 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:55:42 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Quit: Quitting] 04:00:11 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:03:25 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 04:14:21 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:18:05 with plain mummy curses removed, "You feel extremely nervous for a moment" should probably just be "You feel nervous for a moment" 04:18:34 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:19:50 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:23:50 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 04:27:27 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:28:20 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 04:28:57 -!- 14WAAR8XE is now known as _sk 04:29:19 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 16:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:10:42 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:11:17 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 16:13:05 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:19:24 -!- WorkSight has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:21:29 -!- tripout has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:21:39 -!- debo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:23:24 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:26:23 -!- sneakynesss has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:27:25 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 16:30:27 -!- a-109-107 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:33:05 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest89766 16:34:58 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 16:35:31 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:37:59 -!- Guest89766 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:39:27 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:44:58 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:46:38 hm. shouldn't the Compendium of Damaging Unholy Magic be a conj/necro book? this one has 100% conj spells, and 0% necromancy spells 16:46:42 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:49:51 !tell PleasingFungus shouldn't the Compendium of Damaging Unholy Magic be a conj/necro book? this one has 100% conj spells, and 0% necromancy spells. also, there are a number of references in comments and so on to make_book_theme_randart, a function you removed 16:49:51 amalloy: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 16:55:02 -!- mibert has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:59:56 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:56 -!- WorkSight has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:06:27 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 17:06:33 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 17:07:28 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:16:46 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:23:56 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:25:53 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:26:20 -!- WorkSight has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:29:52 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:35:17 -!- WorkSight has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:35:48 -!- mamgar has quit [Client Quit] 17:42:29 -!- johnny0 has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:43:54 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:46:33 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:47:04 amalloy: i had one that seemed really misnamed in the last couple days too 17:47:34 i forget the name, but it sounded like it'd have necro and ice spells and it was just a random selection of conj 17:47:37 or somethig like that 17:47:49 the sinister glacier 17:48:02 (my own random guess at what a necro/ice book would be named) 17:53:27 -!- techieAgnostic has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4-dev] 17:58:13 -!- Guest7560 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:59:10 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest28810 17:59:32 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:05:04 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 18:06:24 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 18:07:45 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 18:07:47 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:08:08 -!- techieAgnostic has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4-dev] 18:08:09 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 18:09:06 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 18:10:28 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 18:11:49 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 18:15:37 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 18:17:30 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 18:17:40 -!- chamandro has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:21:19 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:31:59 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 18:32:03 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:32:28 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 18:37:11 Lasty: Sandman25 is playing combo god 18:37:13 on cbro 18:37:28 -!- sneakyness has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:38:51 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:47:31 -!- techieAgnostic has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4-dev] 18:47:36 -!- moxian has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:48:08 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 18:48:53 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 18:50:43 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:53:35 =O 18:54:07 amalloy: i don't think 'sinister glacier' was the name of the actual one i saw, but i think i have seen that as a randbook name 18:54:17 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:54:23 sure 18:55:39 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:57:08 -!- Guest28810 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:57:15 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:58:46 -!- jetnerd has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:19 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:03:22 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:03:23 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:05:53 whoa, sandman posted on tavern too 19:07:32 is sandman25 some well known crawl personality 19:09:43 he wins a lot 19:09:49 -!- AndChat-590889 has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:09:56 i think. maybe i'm getting him confusde with sharkman 19:10:05 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:10:21 !gamesby sandman25 19:10:21 sandman25 has played 103 games, between 2013-02-24 06:44:16 and 2016-03-16 04:40:51, won 41 (39.8%), high score 16022875, total score 175131530, total turns 5137552, play-time/day 0:38:50, total time 30d+3:05:19. 19:10:29 yeah I think you're talking about sharkman 19:10:48 sandman25 is known more for his tavern posts 19:12:12 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 19:12:22 -!- alvarops has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:13:39 39.8% I would say is "a lot" 19:13:49 even accounting for the likely winscumming.... 19:13:50 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 19:14:36 likely winscumming? 19:14:45 winscumming is this weird meme 19:14:58 ??winscumming 19:14:58 winscumming[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=14997 god knows what that is 19:15:06 a joke 19:15:17 oh 19:15:20 i guess i faile poe's law 19:15:45 the fault lies with me 19:17:30 Invisible octopodes are not warned about shallow water interactions 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10364 by CanOfWorms 19:19:07 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:20:15 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 19:22:02 gammafunk: he told me on Tavern :) 19:22:06 haha 19:22:12 did he give a verdict? 19:22:21 nope 19:22:24 I've been watching, but I'm not seeing him use the abilities a lot 19:22:28 but he did say he was hyping it 19:22:37 but I'm not paying too careful attention 19:22:44 I do see things falling asleep sometimes 19:22:52 monsters are bored of combat 19:23:17 His dude had a giant axe and GDA, so I assume he's doing fine 19:23:18 or I kind of like the idea of them not liking your dance, and falling asleep 19:23:24 yeah, rod of clouds etc 19:23:25 haha 19:23:33 Rod of clouds should be pretty solid 19:27:59 today i have heard of two new kinds of axe: "giant axe" in ##crawl-dev, and "great axe" on /r/dcss 19:29:10 haha 19:29:14 any moment now 19:32:05 heh, that's a +9 war axe 19:32:31 amalloy: metaphorical "giant axe" 19:32:38 i figured 19:32:41 have you looked at executioner's axes? they're pretty big 19:32:57 looks like a normal-sized ) to me 19:33:07 or perhaps (. that's the one glyph i can never keep straight 19:33:14 not if your terminal is configured right 19:33:20 should have a huge, bold glyph 19:33:49 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 19:34:26 re: the invisible octopode thing 19:34:54 the first test I did was affected by wizmode species change (apparently if you change species from merfolk your legs are still transformed...) 19:35:54 and now it seems like octopodes are correctly invisible? It's hard to tell if monsters can actually see me... 19:36:14 also tested with a grey drac and they might have the same benefits 19:36:39 in any case monster octopodes *are* visible when you make them invisible 19:36:59 by "visible" you mean "create a disturbance"? 19:37:34 yes 19:40:04 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:40:48 -!- Stonar has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:43:56 oh, I think I see what's happening 19:44:11 octopodes and grey draconians create disturbances in shallow water, but not deep water 19:44:48 and merfolk too 19:46:42 they do show up with the thing that indicates there's an invisible creature in that spot 19:46:46 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:50:39 -!- n1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:51:30 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:51:55 -!- Floodkiller has joined ##crawl-dev 19:51:57 CanOfWorms: it seems like octopodes are just invisible in shallow water. 19:51:57 PleasingFungus: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 19:51:57 -!- moxian has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:52:08 player op. 19:52:10 no disturbances at all. 19:52:17 sort of weird but w/e 19:53:23 yeah 19:53:24 amalloy: there's currently no requirement that a conj/necro book have both conj & necro spells, only that all spells in the book must be either conj or necro. 19:53:29 I think grey dracs are too? 19:53:41 wizmode species change makes it a bit hard to tell 19:54:16 PleasingFungus: imo the book's name should be adjusted when that happens. like, if you generate a conj/necro book with no necro spells, it should turn into a conj book, with title to match 19:54:39 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:54:42 possible. i'm not super fond of what that does to the logic. 19:54:59 like, you say "make me a cj/ne book", and the function says "ok, here's the cj book you asked for". 19:56:45 better than the old functionality, i guess. which could take "hey, give me a cj/ne book" and say "ok, here's the fe/ae book you asked for". 19:58:56 I think players are invisible in deep water in general 19:59:11 which does reflect monster invisibility, I guess 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:03:18 -!- bencryption has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 20:10:50 -!- Franz__ has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:14:51 "Because the Crawl developers are insane, a double-colon is an escaped colon, and so we have to be careful not to split the logfile on locations like D:7 and such." 20:19:09 hm 20:19:16 sounds like something chequers would write 20:19:31 opinion: should vault books with explicitly defined schools still get non-used schools trimmed? 20:19:59 e.g., if someone says "randbook disc:earth disc2:fire", should it be ok to name it as a pure fire book? 20:20:11 leaning toward yes, i guess 20:21:32 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 20:21:36 amalloy: in fact I think I may have 20:21:48 # logfile format escapes : as ::, so we need to split with re.split 20:21:49 # instead of naive line.split(':') 20:21:54 I guess I'm more neutral these days 20:22:14 will try harder 20:22:18 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1785-g1c24a7a: Tweak randbook naming (amalloy) 10(4 minutes ago, 3 files, 41+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1c24a7a42394 20:23:11 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:23:37 PleasingFungus: !(has_d1 ^ has_d2) is has_d1 == has_d2 20:24:01 oh yeah 20:24:13 that's true 20:25:15 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 20:25:50 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1786-g96b6fb6: Remove make_book_theme_randart() refs (amalloy) 10(2 minutes ago, 3 files, 7+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/96b6fb6e8e44 20:27:18 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1787-g69b0dfd: Simplify (amalloy) 10(77 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/69b0dfd271cd 20:27:44 !commit Simplify PleasingFungus 20:27:45 03amalloy * 0.18-a0-2575-g239f6f1: Simplify PleasingFungus 10(in the future, 3 files, 538+ 690-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=239f6f1 20:27:53 noo 20:27:56 -!- PleasingFungus is now known as PF 20:31:36 -!- fixit_friend has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:33:55 -!- PF is now known as PleasingFungus 20:36:21 -!- Blade- has joined ##crawl-dev 20:37:25 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0.2/20160407164938]] 20:39:02 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:40:27 -!- fixit_friend has joined ##crawl-dev 20:41:15 mwahaha 20:42:27 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:42:51 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest50564 20:43:34 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:43:40 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 20:45:22 -!- PsyMar has quit [Quit: witty quit message goes here] 20:47:19 -!- Guest50564 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:48:24 -!- punpun has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:54:20 -!- money has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:58:08 -!- n1 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:16:16 -!- Floodkiller has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:17:52 -!- Stonar has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:17:55 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:27:31 -!- yend has quit [Client Quit] 21:28:20 -!- Dingbat_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:28:29 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:28:31 why is TSO rendered as 'the Shining One' rather than 'The Shining One'? 21:28:53 i always assume The is part of it's name 21:29:07 like The Edge 21:29:10 who is also a god 21:29:22 haha great example 21:29:23 You've heard of Another Shining One? 21:29:48 wildly popular god on D:5 only 21:29:52 kind of a subculture though 21:30:03 but the wrestler is just Edge 21:30:15 you're thinking of the shinning one, gammafunk 21:30:35 not that jerk who goes around kicking people in the shins! 21:32:29 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:32:52 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest92756 21:37:09 -!- Guest92756 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:37:16 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:37:52 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:41:44 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 21:42:37 -!- techieAgnostic has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:50:32 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 21:51:59 is there any code which tracks race/role/god renames? 21:52:09 eg how Dithmengos -> Dithmenos, and Crusader -> Skald 21:59:06 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 21:59:10 msotly things are marshalled by number so there's no need 22:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:01:37 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 22:02:54 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:03:18 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 22:03:33 rats 22:07:42 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:08:36 wheals_: does that slow down from autoreach make any sense to you? 22:08:52 what happened 22:08:53 I couldn't see anything in your commit that would cause it, but it was the most recent thing to touch autofight 22:09:12 on some servers, the lua from autofight + reach makes the server slow down incredibly 22:09:15 the game, rather 22:09:30 it will just take seconds to animate even one glyph moving in the reach animation 22:09:37 if you normally evoke it's fine 22:09:38 :| 22:09:42 %git --author=mark 22:09:42 07wheals02 * ce6d5cfd8b15: Move cannibalism-hatred to data. 10(5 days ago, 4 files, 5+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ce6d5cfd8b15 22:09:45 -!- flappity_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:09:53 if you tab with adjacent melee it's fine 22:09:55 %git :/autofight 22:09:55 07wheals02 * 0.18-a0-1763-g7aac3cf: Fix autofight if you remap keys (#5634). 10(6 days ago, 2 files, 102+ 26-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7aac3cfdd960 22:09:57 it's only ranged autofight and reach autofight 22:10:11 yeah that's the one I figured could have caused it, since this is a recent phenomenon 22:10:13 -!- chamandro has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:10:16 but again couldn't see what might 22:10:23 it's probably hard to reproduce locally 22:10:33 it's sporadic as to the slowness 22:10:48 cpo and cbro have been baddly effected though 22:10:53 *affected 22:11:43 maybe it's that i forgot to add flush_input_buffer(FLUSH_BEFORE_COMMAND); 22:12:06 chequers noted that there's no apparent increase in cpu while it's happening, but I haven't looked into it 22:12:51 I really should have filed a bug report 22:13:50 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:14:38 OH LOL 22:14:50 ! 22:14:52 i put the unwind_bool inside an if 22:15:00 that might be part of it :P 22:15:10 I saw that and idly wondered if that scope was right 22:15:47 but I don't really know how that scoping works for unwind_var stuff 22:16:09 does it restore the var always when it leaves scope? 22:16:28 or rather, I wasn't sure what constituted a scope change I guess 22:17:36 basically whenever you cross a } (which includes breaking/continuing/returning) but i think it also counts if it's a one-line if/for/etc. 22:19:37 gammafunk: did you see fixit_friend did some testing and thinks having more throwables on the ground affects performance 22:19:48 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1788-g92de1ac: Try to fix do_commands 10(6 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/92de1acf7b5b 22:20:07 chequers: well, that could be the case, but what might be happening there is basically collateral damage 22:20:21 things that make lua do more processing, for instance 22:20:26 ya 22:20:31 so yeah having more items in los would make it worse 22:20:41 which would explain some of the variablity maybe, or all of it 22:20:50 yeah i don't see how that would matter 22:20:59 it might just be that all this string processing is too hard 22:21:46 wheals_: will your change in 7aac3cf also prevent the need for the fix I gave Celerity in https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=18147&p=248773#p248773 ? 22:22:05 the "fix" I should say, since I had to copy in autofight lua into his rc 22:22:22 assuming i don't have to revert it 22:22:32 -!- TangoBravo has quit [Client Quit] 22:22:33 nice 22:22:45 wonder if it will break his current rc though 22:22:54 maybe I should test it at some point 22:23:03 i doubt it since it doesn't remove any functionality 22:23:34 now we wait a few days and try to replicate 22:23:43 well, I'll try in 10mins on cpo 22:23:45 I'd bet you can replicate pretty easilly online 22:23:52 I'll try to test a bit later 22:24:25 pretty sure I have wizmode on cbro, at least 22:25:19 ??rebuild 22:25:19 rebuild[1/2]: https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 22:27:30 !learn edit rebuild[1] s|https://dobr[^ ]+ || 22:27:30 rebuild[1/2]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 22:27:37 ??rebuild[2 22:27:38 rebuild[2/2]: Trunk update start times in UTC (second number during summer time): CSZO: 0600/0500; CAO: 1700; CDO: 0600/0500; CLAN: 2300/2200; CBRO: 0800/0700; CXC: 0500/0400; CPO: every 15 minutes 22:28:15 !learn edit rebuild[2] s|CSZO[^;]+; || 22:28:16 rebuild[2/2]: Trunk update start times in UTC (second number during summer time): CAO: 1700; CDO: 0600/0500; CLAN: 2300/2200; CBRO: 0800/0700; CXC: 0500/0400; CPO: every 15 minutes 22:28:27 !learn edit rebuild[2] s| | | 22:28:27 rebuild[2/2]: Trunk update start times in UTC (second number during summer time): CAO: 1700; CDO: 0600/0500; CLAN: 2300/2200; CBRO: 0800/0700; CXC: 0500/0400; CPO: every 15 minutes 22:28:32 ?/cszo 22:28:32 Matching terms (5): cszo, cszo_key, is_cszo_down, is_cszo_up, why_is_cszo_down; entries (27): badshaft[1] | badshaft[2] | badshaft[3] | badshaft[5] | bh[4] | bots[1] | cbo[2] | chunkless[1] | co[1] | cszo[2] | cszo[3] | cszo[5] | cszo_key[1] | cßo[1] | epic_bugs[6] | experimental[1] | hdarc[1] | is_cszo_down[1] | is_cszo_down[2] | is_cszo_up[1] | is_dobrazupa_down[1] | is_dobrazupa_up[1] | is_sz_d... 22:28:39 heh 22:28:44 ??why_is_cszo_down 22:28:44 why is cszo down[1/1]: Blame DracoOmega. 22:28:51 ??why_is_cszo_down 22:28:51 why is cszo down[1/1]: Blame DracoOmega. 22:28:53 ??why_is_cszo_down 22:28:53 why is cszo down[1/1]: Blame DracoOmega. 22:28:55 oh 22:29:03 ??cszo 22:29:03 cszo[1/5]: Former crawl server. For some context on why, see https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/4eczzm/sz_offline/d1z1fpb 22:29:16 !learm del why_is_cszo_down 22:29:20 !learn del why_is_cszo_down 22:29:20 Deleted why is cszo down[1/1]: Blame DracoOmega. 22:29:32 ??experimental 22:29:32 experimental[1/1]: Experimental branches sometimes created on CSZO to test new features such as chunkless, smithgod, Ru. Games saved in these branches may become broken or get deleted. They are not tracked on CAO pages, but ask green.snark to add them to Sequell so they can be queried by lg/lm. 22:30:08 -!- Wahaha has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:30:47 !learn edit experimental s/on CSZO[^.]+\./CBRO or other servers to test new features./ 22:30:47 experimental[1/1]: Experimental branches sometimes created CBRO or other servers to test new features. Games saved in these branches may become broken or get deleted. They are not tracked on CAO pages, but ask green.snark to add them to Sequell so they can be queried by lg/lm. 22:31:01 !learn edit experimental s/CBRO/on CBRO/ 22:31:02 experimental[1/1]: Experimental branches sometimes created on CBRO or other servers to test new features. Games saved in these branches may become broken or get deleted. They are not tracked on CAO pages, but ask green.snark to add them to Sequell so they can be queried by lg/lm. 22:31:15 ??is_cszo_up 22:31:18 7 days, 4 hours, 21 minutes, 23 seconds since last activity (cszo) 22:31:23 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 22:31:24 The build was broken. (master - 69b0dfd #5302 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/124063770 22:31:24 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 22:31:34 !learn del is_cszo_up 22:31:34 Deleted is cszo up[1/1]: see {is cszo down} 22:31:38 ??is_cszo_down 22:31:40 ??is_cszo_down[2 22:31:41 7 days, 4 hours, 21 minutes, 46 seconds since last activity (cszo) 22:31:41 is cszo down[2/2]: If you have DNS problems try crawl.dobrazupa.org (webtiles + ssh). If you have too much lag try the other two IPs: dobrazupa.org and admin.dobrazupa.org (ssh only). If none of those solutions work, check if Sizzell is on this channel. If not, cszo probably really is down. 22:31:53 !learn del is_cszo_down[1] 22:31:53 Deleted is cszo down[1/2]: do {!isonline cszo} 22:31:55 !learn del is_cszo_down[2] 22:31:56 is_cszo_down has only 1 entry. 22:31:59 !learn del is_cszo_down[1] 22:31:59 Deleted is cszo down[1/1]: If you have DNS problems try crawl.dobrazupa.org (webtiles + ssh). If you have too much lag try the other two IPs: dobrazupa.org and admin.dobrazupa.org (ssh only). If none of those solutions work, check if Sizzell is on this channel. If not, cszo probably really is down. 22:32:02 ?/cszo 22:32:03 Matching terms (2): cszo, cszo_key; entries (23): badshaft[1] | badshaft[2] | badshaft[3] | badshaft[5] | bh[4] | bots[1] | cbo[2] | chunkless[1] | co[1] | cszo[2] | cszo[3] | cszo[5] | cszo_key[1] | cßo[1] | epic_bugs[6] | hdarc[1] | is_dobrazupa_down[1] | is_dobrazupa_up[1] | is_sz_down[1] | panrobin[1] | rcfiles[1] | sizzell[1] | ssh[2] 22:32:09 ??chunkless 22:32:10 chunkless[1/1]: Starts you with 5 rations and spawns more perma-food, removes chunk eating for everybody except Gh. (Yes even trolls). Extra food is meat to avoid messing with Sp. Now availible on cszo and cbro! 22:32:20 remember that great branch? 10/10 22:32:25 !learn del chunkless 22:32:25 Deleted chunkless[1/1]: Starts you with 5 rations and spawns more perma-food, removes chunk eating for everybody except Gh. (Yes even trolls). Extra food is meat to avoid messing with Sp. Now availible on cszo and cbro! 22:32:33 ??co 22:32:34 cszo[1/5]: Former crawl server. For some context on why, see https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/4eczzm/sz_offline/d1z1fpb 22:32:50 !learn del is_sz_down 22:32:50 Deleted is sz down[1/1]: see {is cszo down} 22:32:56 ??rcfiles 22:32:56 rcfiles[1/1]: Accessible via www: CAO: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/ CDO: http://crawl.develz.org/configs/ CSZO: http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/ 22:33:08 ??bots 22:33:08 bots[1/3]: Bots that can be pm'd: announcement bots: Henzell (CAO, !), Gretell (CDO, @), Sizzell (CSZO, %), Lantell (CLAN, $), Rotatell (CBRO, ^), Eksell (CXC, |); others: Varmin, Cheibriados (%), and Sequell (! ?? & and others) 22:33:21 I guess as long as sizell is still with us 22:34:32 !learn edit bots[1] s/CLAN/CUE/ 22:34:33 bots[1/3]: Bots that can be pm'd: announcement bots: Henzell (CAO, !), Gretell (CDO, @), Sizzell (CSZO, %), Lantell (CUE, $), Rotatell (CBRO, ^), Eksell (CXC, |); others: Varmin, Cheibriados (%), and Sequell (! ?? & and others) 22:37:10 -!- Aurelian has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:37:17 !lg * cpo won min=score 22:37:18 458. Espinaca the Invulnerable (L27 MiBe of The Shining One), escaped with the Orb on 2014-11-28 11:11:59, with 0 points after 111667 turns and 6:02:29. 22:37:20 another bug 22:37:37 there's 3 of them! 22:40:29 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:41:45 oh 22:41:51 yeah we found one of those and were confused 22:41:55 it's a cpo thing? 22:42:20 !lg * recent won score=0 s=src 22:42:22 2 games for * (recent won score=0): 2x cpo 22:42:26 yeah guess so 22:42:36 something about webtiles-changes? 22:42:37 -!- MarvinPA has left ##crawl-dev 22:43:03 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:44:26 -!- NotDumb is now known as NotKat 22:50:03 =O 22:54:37 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 22:55:00 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:56:00 -!- bgiannan1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:57:34 -!- wheals_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:10 -!- Shadou has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:11:33 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:12:31 gammafunk: probably the same thing as the broken huge score 23:12:35 !hs * cpo 23:12:36 33147. edsrzf the Devastator (L23 DsCj of Okawaru), blasted by an ancient lich (crystal spear) on Depths:3 (lemuel_river_lethe) on 2016-03-20 21:39:50, with 1859332704 points after 61543 turns and 5:46:14. 23:12:55 good that you're distributing the points not all one way! 23:13:19 you might get the highest score of all time...you might get 0 23:13:23 i'm like robin hood 23:13:32 giving from the average to the uh, below average 23:13:51 how noble 23:13:55 if sapher shows up to my stream again, I'll have to show him that game 23:14:26 it really is exactly like robin hood when you think about it 23:14:35 secret speedrun tech, play crawl and meatsprint at the same time 23:14:40 -!- docpaisley has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:15:13 -!- WorkSight has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:18:41 i call it meatcrawl 23:19:02 :meat soup 23:20:05 *meat stew 23:20:33 is the code for showing failure chance deliberately not the same as the actual failure chance code? 23:21:13 -!- bgiannan1 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:21:27 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 23:21:32 chequers, the actual failure chance code doesn't convert to a percentage without extra computational steps 23:21:33 -!- NotKat has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:21:37 which is what the code for showing failure chance does 23:23:36 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 23:23:37 The build was broken. (master - 92de1ac #5303 : Shmuale Mark): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/124078777 23:23:37 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 23:24:34 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 23:24:44 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:25:40 -!- bgiannan1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:26:10 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 23:26:45 -!- johnny0 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:27:10 the dcss-ca dev is saying there's a bug in the calculation, and this logic is more correct 23:27:13 https://github.com/jeremygurr/dcssca/commit/eca424e4451a66f74cec043da4c2bc49b7bad478#diff-1640204164db01d6db0d8af416d0f8e9R2275 23:29:24 I don't see a failure chance calculation in that diff 23:29:40 anecdotally, a spell that claims to fail at 2% fails much more often than that, for me. higher fail chance is harder to say one way or another, but I don't trust a sub-5% spell until it's at 0% 23:30:40 I think the game rolls 3 times for a failure 23:31:05 -!- wheals has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:31:29 although that wouldn't increase the failure rate :v 23:31:40 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:31:46 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:32:25 in fact, get_true_fail_rate in that fork seems to be identical to the one in DCSS 23:34:04 CanOfWorms, it rolls 3 dice and compares the sum to the "failure rate" (which is not a percentage) 23:34:09 -!- doy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:34:33 that's why the tetrahedral crap is needed at all, the failure rate crawl uses isn't a rate 23:34:35 -!- bh has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:34:38 -!- unpaidbill has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:35:03 -!- Guest65550 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:35:06 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 23:35:24 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 23:35:45 -!- Guest71956 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:36:38 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 23:36:59 nice. 23:38:51 my understanding is that at this point spl-cast.cc is mostly formulas that try to emulate the results of old formulas, which were trying to emulate the results of older formulas 23:39:22 :) 23:39:40 code xerox... 23:39:43 is there a way to write the message log to a file? 23:40:05 you get a huge amount of old message data in crash logs 23:43:32 -!- giantbat has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:44:36 "I changed [it by] not calling the function that messed up the numbers, and instead passed the correct failure rate straight through." it definitely alters my displayed failure rate, on reloading my save with the diff, minmay 23:45:34 -!- doy has joined ##crawl-dev 23:47:56 -!- FireSight has quit [] 23:49:07 -!- Blade- has joined ##crawl-dev 23:53:15 oh, did someone finally track down the "real" fail rates? 23:53:38 i'm not convinced, but i'm also too lazy to check 23:53:48 they've always felt off to me even accounting for the fact that you only notice failures and tend to ignore success 23:54:50 indeed 23:55:05 i want the log message history so I can try casting a spell 500 times and just grep the log for info 23:55:35 well some lua would probably be the best way to do it 23:55:49 it can access messages and has string finding patterns 23:56:16 i'd have to learn crawl lua 23:57:54 -!- bh has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:58:33 ./crawl > log.txt 23:59:00 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 23:59:06 really? that works?! 23:59:23 I doubt it :p 23:59:36 could run it under script if you liked pain 23:59:51 (then find a program that interprets ANSI escapes in a typescript) 23:59:59 -!- Kat is now known as Guest45418