00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:19 true hubris is being at ****** trog piety, below half health, in hell, and not using trog's hand 00:00:32 autoexploring instead 00:00:36 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1782-gb76a692 (34) 00:00:41 ??murdertv 00:00:42 I don't have a page labeled murdertv in my learndb. 00:00:48 !help !murdertv 00:00:49 No help for !murdertv (you could add help with !learn add !help:!murdertv ) 00:01:26 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:01:53 !kw murder 00:01:54 No keyword 'murder' 00:01:58 !kw murdertv 00:01:58 No keyword 'murdertv' 00:02:13 !murdertv 00:02:19 23645. Grivan, XL16 HaTm, T:50256 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:03:41 !cmd . murdertv 00:03:41 Unknown command: murdertv 00:03:46 !cmd .murdertv 00:03:47 No command .murdertv 00:03:56 !cmd !murdertv 00:03:57 Command: !murdertv => !lg * !boring !win !Pan !Dis:7 !Geh:7 !Tar:7 ((tiles || !@hugeterm)) ((cln end>=20130626 || !cln)) !csn (( killer!=tentacled_monstrosity|greater_naga|naga_warrior || ktyp!=mon )) vault(kmap)|vault(map)~~evilmike|_mu$|_due|dpeg|minmay|hangedman|lemuel|^st_|_st$|^grunt xl>=15 x=map,kmap $* stub:"No murders found." min=ntv -tv 00:04:42 wow. what a rube goldberg machine in text form 00:04:44 that seems like a pretty useless command 00:05:49 I thought murdertv was going to be masterful nightstalker / dith murders of uniques, without losing any health 00:05:56 or something along those lines 00:07:02 you can make a channel for your tv, then it becomes a bit more like netflix 00:07:22 -!- Beargit has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:07:46 "it's tv not netflix" is gonna be met with blank stares in a few years 00:07:52 unless of course, the server you want doesn't have ttyrecs, then it's like watching a tv with the crt smashed out! 00:08:57 !cmd !pyrrhictv 00:08:57 Command: !pyrrhictv => !lm * unique|rune|orb|ghost ((tiles || !@hugeterm)) !won ${lg:turn-turn}<=3 -game -tv $* min=${lg:ntv} xl>8 00:10:30 ha 00:10:47 I thought one of the tvs was for games where the die roll was close to 50/50, and if it had gone the other way, the player would be alive/dead instead of whichever they are 00:10:55 maybe they were only talking about setting that up 00:11:05 suspensetv? 00:11:12 !pyrrhictv 00:11:16 ah, that's the one I think 00:12:03 hm. tough query for it to run? 00:12:43 90s limit exceeded: killed !pyrrhictv 00:14:22 wow this is old 00:15:37 -!- Harudoku has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:18:28 gamma, you've been working with xom in the past week or two. is it true that he likes giving you awesome weapons that you can't use? pondering a game of neglecting weapon skills until xom shows me the way ;) 00:18:55 -!- koboldina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:20:42 -!- sooheon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:21:15 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:21:45 in my experience xom doesn't specifically avoid giving you weapons you've trained 00:21:51 but they are almost always chaos branded 00:23:20 -!- FunkyBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:23:48 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 00:25:21 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:26:44 -!- FireSight has quit [] 00:27:41 -!- BadBadger is now known as FunkyBomb 00:27:45 friendfixit: ah, I'm innocent, since I haven't made a decent commit in months 00:27:55 you can blame some of these other fine people though! 00:28:39 ha, ok, thought I saw you testing som xom stuff recently, maybe you were just... playing the game 00:28:41 weird 00:28:46 who does that 00:30:13 I guess completely random gifts end up looking like "avoiding the skills you hav" relative to oku style gifts, ProzacElf 00:30:30 thus the hearsay spreads ;) 00:31:26 don't worry, trog and oka also gift you stuff you haven't trained 00:31:33 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:31:34 heh 00:31:41 so does acquirement! 00:31:58 worst wand of wishing ever ;) 00:32:24 ??okawaru[4 00:32:25 okawaru[4/7]: You finish putting on the -5 robe of Misfortune {god gift, -Cast Contam+ *Tele EV-4 Str-2 Dex-2 Int-2 Stlth-- Curse}. 00:32:51 ??misfortune 00:32:51 robe of misfortune[1/2]: the cursed -5 robe of Misfortune {-Cast Contam *Tele EV-4 Str-2 Dex-2 Int-2 Stlth-- Curse} 00:32:58 ??misfortune[2 00:32:59 okawaru[4/7]: You finish putting on the -5 robe of Misfortune {god gift, -Cast Contam+ *Tele EV-4 Str-2 Dex-2 Int-2 Stlth-- Curse}. 00:33:25 is that thing still around? I saw it on walrusmcfish's game 00:33:46 it's secretly OP if you do something to it to invert it? or he was pulling our leg 00:34:38 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:36:22 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 00:37:59 no, it's just garbage 00:38:21 i haven't seen it in a little while but i'm pretty sure its still around 00:40:55 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:47:54 -!- n1 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:55:59 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 00:56:24 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:02:23 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 01:03:28 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1782-gb76a692 (34) 01:03:53 -!- joy1999 has quit [Quit: Http://www.ZeroIRC.NET ΆΖ Zero IRC ΆΖ Ver 2.9G] 01:18:58 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1782-gb76a692 (34) 01:19:59 -!- Doll has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 01:21:38 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:32:27 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:32:46 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest21160 01:36:19 -!- Twinge has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:37:36 -!- Guest21160 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:40:00 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 01:40:37 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:46:04 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:49:53 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:51:43 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 01:53:52 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:54:32 -!- Krakhan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:54:33 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1782-gb76a692 01:55:10 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:55:11 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:57:10 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:07:57 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 02:10:58 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 02:27:22 friendfixit: it's still around 02:27:48 nice d:3 vault here. i come down the stairs and am surrounded by water and at least 5 dart slugs 02:30:07 -!- jefus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:30:26 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 02:32:03 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 02:37:45 -!- Kuniqs has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:37:57 gammafunk: i think i'm having the webtiles performance problems you were talking about 02:38:08 on cpo? 02:38:12 ya 02:38:19 is this testing with a different rc? 02:38:20 with polearm tab being slow, right? 02:38:23 oh, yes 02:38:25 well, with my RC 02:38:33 &rc 02:38:35 https://crawl.project357.org/rc-files/trunk/chequers.rc 02:38:39 actually, try this 02:38:45 use reach with just evoke, not autofight 02:38:49 and see if it's slow 02:39:06 not slow 02:39:20 right, it's autofight doing a lot of calculation with reach 02:39:32 so the culprit is more autofight lua, I guess 02:39:43 I really want to see if it can be improved, because it's terrible on cbro 02:39:51 yeah 02:39:55 it's recent though 02:39:58 ah 02:40:03 i mean, I used to tab always with polearms 02:40:03 that's interesting 02:40:14 did anything change autofight recently? 02:40:17 %git :/autofight 02:40:17 07wheals02 * 0.18-a0-1763-g7aac3cf: Fix autofight if you remap keys (#5634). 10(4 days ago, 2 files, 102+ 26-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7aac3cfdd960 02:40:19 it appears to only happen when the enemy is two squares away 02:40:20 yes! 02:40:25 !blame wheals 02:40:26 I pronounce wheals... Guilty! 02:41:00 one thing though. when the game is calculating, crawl isn't using a lot of cpu 02:41:04 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest21393 02:41:28 I wonder why it would be slow 02:42:16 also, it looks like it's mostly slow when the enemy is diagonal from you 2 squares away 02:42:28 !tell wheals Recently there's a problem where reach is sometimes extremely slow only with reach, and normal evoke reach is fine. Wondering if 7aac3cf is the cause 02:42:30 gammafunk: OK, I'll let wheals know. 02:42:32 2 squares up/down is marginally slower than it should be 02:42:59 !tell wheals Sorry, that's "autofight is sometimes extremely slow only with reach" 02:42:59 gammafunk: OK, I'll let wheals know. 02:43:08 nvm. all 2 square attacks are slow 02:43:19 1 square is all fast 02:45:18 yeah, I don't have any evidence that 7aac3cf is the cause, but it's the best guess 02:45:29 you could try a checkout before 7aac3cf to see 02:45:45 -!- whitephoenix2 has left ##crawl-dev 02:45:48 if autofight+reach+>1 square is fine, then that's definitely the culprit 02:45:55 were you using console? 02:46:20 wonder if local tiles/console is also affected 02:47:05 hm, now the problem has gone away 02:47:10 it was happening on orc:2, but not in D 02:47:39 diagonal is still noticeably slower, but taking like 100ms instead of 3secs 02:48:55 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:49:40 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 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Type ??servers for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic 07:28:36 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 07:28:39 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 07:32:05 -!- zxc__ is now known as zxc 07:40:26 -!- tealeaves has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:50:29 -!- Guest63116 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:50:57 -!- Nyvrem has joined ##crawl-dev 07:53:39 namelastname112: known issue 07:54:11 gammafunk: i wonder why they didn't submit translations? didn't know about translations or some limitation 07:55:13 minmay: how come aizul is the only naga without arms 07:55:47 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:01:00 -!- techieAgnostic has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4-dev] 08:04:01 !tell pleasingfungus did you want another changelog for the blog 08:04:01 chequers: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 08:07:20 -!- techieAgnostic has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4-dev] 08:15:30 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:17:18 -!- mamgar has quit [Client Quit] 08:22:28 -!- hellomates has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:27:07 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest57531 08:31:02 -!- Guest57531 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:32:23 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 08:38:48 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:40:07 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 08:42:55 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 08:46:10 -!- HellTiger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:00:15 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:02:32 Does anyone here know if it is possible to use an alternative player base doll part in webtiles? 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12:23:01 that'd still need some effort and objstat stuff though, but seems like decoupling ammo drops from monsters would make things a lot easier 12:23:10 yeah 12:23:32 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:23:48 -!- jefus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:30:21 -!- neizenel is now known as nikheizen 12:31:58 -!- simmarine has quit [*.net *.split] 12:31:58 -!- tealeaves has quit [*.net *.split] 12:31:59 -!- Nattefrost has quit [*.net *.split] 12:31:59 -!- Writ has quit [*.net *.split] 12:31:59 -!- jefus has quit [*.net *.split] 12:32:10 -!- jefus_ is now known as jefus 12:32:40 that seems like a huge blow for bows and xbows, less so for slings since sling bullet using enemies aren't common outside of shoals 12:39:46 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:40:36 !tell marvinPA Something along those lines seems really good. 12:40:36 Lasty: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 12:43:23 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:45:03 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:45:15 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 12:45:25 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:45:43 -!- fixit_friend has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:47:18 -!- fixit_friend has joined ##crawl-dev 12:49:42 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:51:45 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 12:51:56 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:53:09 03Lasty02 07* 0.18-a0-1784-ga939a68: Nerf rElec to the same level as other resists (crate) 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a939a6871a3d 12:54:15 -!- joy1999 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:55:30 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:55:48 -!- johnny0_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:56:10 -!- Chousuke_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:56:10 !learn del lasty_to_do[1 12:56:11 Deleted lasty to do[1/10]: make sure dismissal is actually teleporting away summons and not the summoner 12:56:33 !learn del lasty_to_do[4 12:56:33 Deleted lasty to do[4/9]: stomp: fixed-pecent current-hp damage, scaling flat damage. 12:56:38 wow finally 12:57:02 finally re: relec? 12:59:14 yes 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:46 -!- Tea-Rex has quit [*.net *.split] 13:00:46 -!- tripout has quit [*.net *.split] 13:00:46 -!- johnny0 has quit [*.net *.split] 13:00:46 -!- Rjs has quit [*.net *.split] 13:00:47 -!- lukano has quit [*.net *.split] 13:00:47 -!- Twinge has quit [*.net *.split] 13:00:47 -!- Chousuke has quit [*.net *.split] 13:00:47 -!- rossi has quit [*.net *.split] 13:00:47 -!- a-109-107 has quit [*.net *.split] 13:01:37 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 13:02:47 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:08:01 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1784-ga939a68 (34) 13:08:02 -!- Alarkh has joined ##crawl-dev 13:10:24 so many last minute player nerfs 13:10:36 yessir 13:10:53 We want to make sure we have a record low player win rate this time around 13:10:55 is this the first version to be a net player nerf in a while? Certainly feels a lot like it 13:12:38 as opposed to a record low monster win rate 13:13:24 yeah, probably 13:13:43 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 13:14:24 Orc harder, Elf harder, throwing nerf, the str/dex nerf depending on species (spriggans get hurt quite a bit by it for one thing), arguably the amulet changes, summon spell nerfs, the removal of a lot of the defense boosting buffs (stoneskin, condensation shield, phase shift), ozo nerf... 13:14:41 IMO amulet changes were a player buff 13:14:51 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 13:14:59 hence why I said arguably 13:15:15 (amulets of reflection rule though) 13:15:27 and I'm arguing! :D 13:15:32 yup 13:15:57 the counterpoint is the removal of the rmut amulet to those people for which it's a hill to die on 13:16:03 I am not one of those people 13:19:23 why not remove brands from throwing projectiles as well if you want to keep throwing further in check 13:20:58 although then again it's not stackable like ammo brands and launcher brands once were 13:21:03 yeah, that's the main reason 13:21:10 This way you can still get access to brands while throwing 13:21:16 on the other hand, I'm not sure if that's good 13:21:22 another thing is all the throwing brand vaulst 13:23:43 worth wondering; if monster ammo will disappear on death, would it be worth making it so they can't run out of ammo? 13:24:03 since I've dealt with Vashnia and the like before by literally stairdancing until they ran out of ammunition 13:24:22 possibly. Cyclopses and stone giants having limited ammo is interesting 13:26:20 could leave it a set amount on those and unlimited on the others 13:26:27 since yeah unlimited ammo stone giants would be kind of scary 13:27:32 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:29:28 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest9382 13:31:00 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:31:46 just make monster ammo a breath mechanic :P 13:31:50 -!- tripout has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:34:17 -!- Guest9382 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:41:12 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:49:04 -!- Alarkh has left ##crawl-dev 13:51:23 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:58:41 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:59:22 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:07:03 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:09:26 -!- hewge has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:11:16 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 14:16:09 -!- murphy_slaw has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:17:14 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 14:17:15 -!- murphy_slaw has joined ##crawl-dev 14:19:35 -!- moxian has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:22:45 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 14:33:42 -!- Zeor has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:38:14 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest2958 14:39:24 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:40:57 -!- serq has quit [Quit: suddenly gone...] 14:45:22 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:48:38 -!- serq has quit [Changing host] 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:03:02 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 15:03:04 -!- TAS_2012v has joined ##crawl-dev 15:07:59 -!- muravey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:08:10 -!- sooheon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:09:16 -!- tripout has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:10:37 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 15:11:09 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:05 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 15:17:38 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:20:42 -!- minmay has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:23:56 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 15:25:22 -!- tealeaves has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:26:38 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:26:45 -!- st_ has left ##crawl-dev 15:26:55 -!- zxc_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:27:07 -!- pollysee has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:30:14 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:31:26 -!- fixit_friend has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:33:10 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:33:19 -!- geekosaur has quit [*.net *.split] 15:33:19 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [*.net *.split] 15:33:19 -!- omarax has quit [*.net *.split] 15:33:19 -!- wheals has quit [*.net *.split] 15:33:19 -!- FireSight has quit [*.net *.split] 15:33:20 -!- zxc has quit [*.net *.split] 15:33:20 -!- Kalir has quit [*.net *.split] 15:33:20 -!- _sk has quit [*.net *.split] 15:35:05 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 15:35:06 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 15:35:47 -!- Guest2958 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:35:52 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 15:37:23 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 15:39:30 -!- simmarine_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:39:59 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:41:41 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:41:48 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:41:50 !lg 15:41:50 3663. darkli the Talismancer (L27 DrBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-04-02 08:06:15, with 1638825 points after 81411 turns and 3:49:45. 15:47:02 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:48:18 -!- fixit_friend has joined ##crawl-dev 15:50:38 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:51:10 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:53:28 Lasty: good commits 15:53:44 -!- zxc_ is now known as zxc 15:55:29 the glaive of the guard is supposed to be aizul's? 15:55:34 how did he hold it? 15:58:54 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest81102 16:00:02 -!- omarax_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:03:05 probably with his hands 16:06:30 heh 16:07:15 coiled body around it and used the blade like a sword, I'd guess. long poles are good for somehting :p 16:12:05 we already jumped the shark with felids using wands 16:14:44 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:15:40 i'd still prefer felids to have leap and no wands =p 16:18:27 -!- kazimuth has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:21:39 -!- simmarine_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:22:02 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:23:33 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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17:18:02 -!- Guest60525 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:18:03 rip bot 17:19:12 deep elf master archer (15e) | Spd: 10 (msl: 50%) | HD: 15 | HP: 61-89 | AC/EV: 3/15 | Dam: 25 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, master archer | Res: 06magic(100) | XP: 2497 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 17:19:12 %??deep elf master archer 17:19:15 deep elf archer (07e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 43-57 | AC/EV: 3/15 | Dam: 21 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, master archer, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(80) | XP: 664 | Sp: blink away, slow, confuse, repel missiles | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 17:19:15 %??deep elf archer 17:23:14 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:23:59 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 17:25:37 -!- bgiannan1 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:30:01 -!- johnny0 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:30:45 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:31:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 17:37:08 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:37:59 -!- zxc has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:39:58 -!- dtsundere has joined ##crawl-dev 17:40:18 -!- Patashu__ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:41:07 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [*.net *.split] 17:41:08 -!- kazimuth has quit [*.net *.split] 17:41:08 -!- vale_ has quit [*.net *.split] 17:41:08 -!- ontoclasm has quit [*.net *.split] 17:41:08 -!- geekosaur has quit [*.net *.split] 17:41:08 -!- dtsund has quit [*.net *.split] 17:41:09 -!- IceBlind has quit [*.net *.split] 17:41:09 -!- serq has quit [*.net *.split] 17:41:09 -!- scummos__ has quit [*.net *.split] 17:41:09 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [*.net *.split] 17:41:09 -!- johnny0_ has quit [*.net *.split] 17:41:10 -!- luukano has quit [*.net *.split] 17:41:10 -!- Rjs- has quit [*.net *.split] 17:41:10 -!- Krakhan has quit [*.net *.split] 17:41:10 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [*.net *.split] 17:41:11 -!- Franz__ has quit [*.net *.split] 17:41:11 -!- destroythecore has quit [*.net *.split] 17:41:11 -!- bh has quit [*.net *.split] 17:41:12 -!- iFurril has quit [*.net *.split] 17:41:12 -!- us17 has quit [*.net *.split] 17:41:12 -!- us17_ is now known as us17 17:45:27 -!- Patashu__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:47:36 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 17:52:41 -!- dtsundere is now known as dtsund 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01:41 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:01:53 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 18:02:50 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-a0-1784-ga939a68 (34) 18:04:57 -!- knu has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:04:58 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:08:45 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:09:48 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:11:43 -!- MIC132 has quit [Client Quit] 18:13:33 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:13:47 what up 18:15:21 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 18:20:40 -!- Rocannon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:21:25 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 18:21:29 -!- halv has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:25:44 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 18:40:38 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest31802 18:40:53 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:44:52 -!- Guest31802 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:46:02 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:49:25 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:51:02 -!- MgDark has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:53:15 Edwardauron (L19 FoFi) ASSERT(in_non_diamond_int(r.start)) in 'ray.cc' at line 217 failed. 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I've occasionally noticed very laggy throwing of stones when using that semicolon autofight throw/melee keybind 20:14:12 -!- morik has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:14:22 it's kinda cool, I get to watch the game figure out the trajectory of the shot in slow mo :D 20:16:19 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 20:27:57 -!- Harudoku has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:28:21 gammafunk: yay 20:35:18 -!- Krakhan|2 is now known as Krakhan 20:35:19 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 20:38:37 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:41:25 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest33147 20:45:37 -!- Guest33147 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:46:11 -!- Adeon_ is now known as Adeon 20:49:47 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:50:17 -!- JStrange has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.3] 20:53:19 fixit_friend: it is still there 20:57:45 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:08:03 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:08:11 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 21:08:22 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:09:14 -!- Tickenest has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:09:40 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 21:16:16 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 21:17:27 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:18:24 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 21:19:51 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:23:27 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:26:19 -!- eb has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 21:27:02 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:28:13 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:30:44 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:33:35 -!- simmarine_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:35:05 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 21:37:01 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 21:38:42 -!- hellmonk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:41:18 -!- punpun has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:44:59 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 22:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:11:30 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:13:13 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 22:15:28 -!- knu has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:16:09 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 22:18:04 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:23:30 -!- minqmay has joined ##crawl-dev 22:23:57 can someone explain why the automatic LRD targeting specifically chooses doors over metal walls 22:26:02 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:27:27 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:27:51 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 22:34:41 -!- WebFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:34:51 minqmay: can you give more details on the lrd thing? 22:35:30 if theres a door in los and a monster next to it, even if there are also walls next to the monster, the lrd targeter seems to choose it automatically without fail 22:35:43 the lrd code is a byzantine nightmare, but let me see 22:35:49 I know I've complained about the lrd automatic target choice many times, but... 22:36:18 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:36:28 i'm pretty sure it just chooses whatever's closest to you 22:36:36 that's what it seems to do in testing 22:36:46 oh hm 22:37:20 yeah, with the exception that it prioritizes LRD-able monsters (e.g. gargs) over terrain 22:37:52 he's right, if you cast LRD and there's a door near the nearest monster it will be targeted initially, even if there's metal nearer the monster. which bothered me at first until I realized the doors seemed to consistently do more damage than metal 22:38:10 (targeting the door is very consistent in my experience) 22:38:17 i can't replicate this 22:39:05 ...but the fact that the doors seemed to do more damage anyway --- I keep finding the result of LRDing metal to be underwhelming even at high power --- means I rarely target metal any more unless there's nothing better near :/ 22:40:59 as far as i can tell, metal walls should do more damage than doors, though not dramatically so 22:41:41 4 dice vs 3 22:41:46 (same die size) 22:44:18 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:46:23 ??LRD 22:46:23 lrd[1/4]: Lee's Rapid Deconstruction: Turns walls into explosions. Useful for removing inconvenient stone or green crystal walls, though one needs fairly high power to pierce stone, and even higher to pierce metal (see {lrd[4]}). Causes lots of undodgeable damage to anything foolish enough to be near the wall (but AC is applied thrice). 22:46:42 what is LRD's damage at full power 22:46:51 depends 22:47:06 assuming metal walls 22:48:22 either 4d45 or 6d45, depending on whether it blows up the wall (8% chance) 22:53:11 I really wish LRD just picked the target that magic dart would, by default; that way I'd be able to aim at the square I actually want without waiting to see what square the WTF targeter picked 22:54:02 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 22:56:41 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:59:40 -!- Blade- has joined ##crawl-dev 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:23 -!- bgiannan1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:00:48 You climb downwards. Welcome to the Orcish Mines! A stone giant comes into view. 23:01:22 -!- moxian has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:01:31 ??longbow 23:01:32 longbow[1/1]: Like a {shortbow}, but longer. 15 base damage, 1.7 base delay, 0.7 mindelay. Fires arrows. Small species (e.g. halflings) can't wield these. Try taking one from harmless monsters like centaur warriors, deep elf master archers, or Nessos! 23:01:36 ??battleaxe 23:01:36 battleaxe[1/1]: (axes; -4 acc / 15 dam / 1.7 base delay / 0.7 min delay; two handed). A large war axe with a formidable double-sided head. 23:02:33 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 23:05:43 update: the LRD targeter also really wants me to destroy orcish idols 23:05:45 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:08:15 -!- Arglure has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:08:23 -!- Dingbat_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:09:42 -!- Evablue_ has quit [Quit: Evablue_] 23:14:39 WebFungus: want to write a trunk updates post? i think a few things in the past few days are big 23:17:30 ??executioner's axe 23:17:31 executioner's axe[1/2]: (axes; -6 acc / 18 dam / 2.0 base delay / 0.7 min delay; two handed). You want axes? You want them big? You want to swing your axe into the guts of demons? Do the demons have HUGE GUTS you want to RIP AND TEAR? Then this axe is for you. 23:17:34 -!- neon|ugh is now known as neongrey 23:17:58 ??trove[4 23:17:58 treasure trove[4/4]: a - [D:9] the +12,+10 sword of Jihad {holy, *Rage rN+ MR EV+3 Stlth--} (30630 gold) Trove: D:27 (give sword of Jihad) 23:18:11 -!- Athaboros has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:19:10 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:23:08 -!- WebFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:24:32 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 23:27:13 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:27:23 ??triple crossbow 23:27:23 triple crossbow[1/3]: Like a crossbow, but three times as good! Base damage 22, base/mindelay 23/10. Historically known as a Chuangzi Nu. Not suitable for shaving. 23:28:34 -!- WebFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:28:57 chequers: could be reasonable, i suppose 23:29:44 -!- Cacophony has quit [Quit: oh no am scare] 23:30:00 not feeling it right this sec but could take a crack in a few days 23:30:17 i just want my name in the credits 23:30:18 fame yo 23:30:56 Hey we don't even put names in update posts! 23:30:56 -!- destroythecore_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:31:20 author tag in wordpress 23:32:24 we should set that to always GOD_NOGOD 23:32:56 :) 23:33:02 The diety so powerful, I decided to worship it in my current game 23:33:33 which file sets how often you want a given vault to spawn? 23:33:51 the vault has a WEIGHT: attribute which controls this 23:34:10 the default value is 10, for vaults without a weight specified 23:34:17 vaults are in source/dat/des 23:34:19 ah, okay 23:34:34 there's also CHANCE: but don't use that 23:34:41 PLACE and maybe some other keys override this behaviour, more info in docs 23:35:20 if you're making a vault for dcss and want to have it merged, your vault should probably have default weight 23:35:33 GOD_NO_GOD 23:35:34 but if you're testing it can be nice to set it to a very high value or use CHANCE: 100% 23:35:39 oh sorry 23:35:42 but: imo, GOD_NAMELESS 23:35:52 man, if I'd made that post, think of the compilation errors 23:35:57 we'd never recover 23:36:01 (-: 23:36:13 Author: if(you.religion = GOD_XOM) 23:36:16 you'd just have to make a clean post and remake with the correct author 23:36:51 I'd probably just delete wordpress and reclone it 23:36:55 only way to be sure... 23:37:13 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:37:46 I'm just trying to make sure ecu altar always spawns in my desktop version of the game, sorry gamma 23:38:16 yeah, for that CHANCE: 100% might be best 23:38:39 -!- G-Flex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:38:49 if you're testing, there are wizmode commands to place a vault on a generated level and to simply place the vault somewhere on the current level 23:38:49 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 23:38:55 it's currently saying 50 : 10% ... does that mean 10% overall, but 50/50 shot of it being either version? 23:38:56 temple is kind of weird though, testing wise 23:39:04 no that's a priority, that 50 23:40:23 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:41:17 I guess you'd want CHANCE: 0 : 100% 23:41:41 but just CHANCE: 100% should work 23:41:46 you don't have to specify priority 23:42:44 PLACE: D:2 will place the given vault always on d:2 23:42:58 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:43:15 -!- WebFungus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:43:16 fwiw dcss-ca should definitely spawn ecu altar in every game 23:43:26 cos dcss should also do so (maaaaaarvin!) 23:43:38 okeydokey. now I'm stuck window shopping... the altar vaults are so neat in general. dith vs tso, nemelex's 3 door monty haul 23:44:00 lugonu bribe, ofc, but I've already seen that one 23:44:22 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:44:46 thought I've had some ecu-altar-less games, but maybe I just didn't notice the altar due to already having kowtowed to someone convenient 23:45:01 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:45:21 -!- eb has quit [] 23:46:25 i think gammafunk is wrong and your interpretation of CHANCE is correct 23:47:16 yeah he is! 23:47:26 why "marvin!"? 23:47:49 he nerfed the spawn chance 50->10 23:48:08 ecu altar *should* spawn every game, I agree ;) how else can you ensure your ! mode character is truly ! 23:48:36 the typical argument is that you could just worship at the first altar you see 23:48:50 feff. 23:48:54 but that's harder to police 23:48:56 that feels different and you know it. 23:49:18 i got ecu altars into the game, you dont have to tell me that 23:49:25 ha! :D 23:50:18 you nerfed spiny and you made ecu altars? I didn't even know you were a dev, yet you've done some of my favorite commits (thought you just did the aus server) 23:51:01 the 5% of chequers commits that get merged are good commits, yeah 23:51:07 but he's not a dev 23:51:27 we accept outside patches a lot if they're good, well thought out 23:51:42 speaking of the 5% of chequers commits, I need to merge those vaults this evening 23:51:43 actually, i buffed spiny 23:51:47 now that DgEE is in the bag 23:52:03 time to nerf EE? 23:52:20 nerf Dg imo 23:52:25 although I did submit in here a nerf in the past few months, but I think it slipped through the cracks 23:52:36 and a nerf for powered by death that nobody picked up 23:52:42 ah, thought you nerfed the earlygame snoozefest aspect of spiny 23:52:45 Ds mutations are a bundle of....interest 23:52:48 gammafunk's protips for winning: nerf things after you've won with them, not before 23:52:53 lategame, I rarely make it to lategame with a Ds 23:52:55 fixit_friend: i submitted a patch to do so! 23:53:03 I buffed XXX once while I was playing 23:53:04 oh, I see 23:53:05 but then I died 23:53:10 rip 23:54:30 -!- Zxpr2jk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:55:14 -!- FunkyBomb has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:56:43 -!- docpaisley has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]