00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:27 ontoclasm: what on earth 00:00:47 oh, i misread chequers as saying your tile did have muscle arms 00:03:03 does anyone have any ideas: http://puu.sh/ohuqO/fae561c8e6.png 00:03:29 the lines in the code dont mention ascii, but instead write data 00:04:07 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:07:19 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 00:08:33 -!- Tiktailk has quit [Changing host] 00:08:35 -!- Tiktailk is now known as Tiktalik 00:09:19 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 00:11:37 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 00:11:42 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 00:11:55 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 00:13:37 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:13:49 Zibudo: you're not running on python 3 ar eyou 00:13:52 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:14:06 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 00:14:08 i have python 2.7.6 00:14:17 should it be python 3? 00:14:26 nope, py2 is correct 00:15:03 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:15:06 after line 128 in terminal.py can you add this line: print type(data), data 00:15:09 i tried adding from encodings import ascii in the files 00:15:14 okay 00:15:19 then see what you get in the log 00:16:03 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:17:14 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:17:58 http://puu.sh/ohw18/e78a964038.png 00:18:01 that is the new error 00:18:02 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:18:49 that looks like a completely new error 00:18:58 these errors only occur when someone tries to run a crawl webtiles game 00:19:02 yea it does 00:19:15 I forgot to restart webtiles 00:19:18 it seems either sqlite3 command isn't available on the server, or it is but not in the PATH that webtiles server is running with 00:19:21 when i added the import for ascii 00:19:46 ah, `from encodings import ascii` won't help here so best to remove that if you added it 00:19:54 okay 00:20:57 i removed it and restarted and i am getting the ascii error again 00:21:10 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:21:11 I think that line fixed that error 00:21:46 -!- nicknameforirc has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:22:41 hm, weird 00:23:06 yea i added it back and its giving the new errors 00:26:33 what does whereis sqlite3 return? 00:27:02 if you get nothing, you probably need to install it. If you're on ubuntu use sudo apt-get install sqlite3 00:27:40 no i have sqlite3 installed 00:27:45 because I can use it manually 00:27:53 what path does it have 00:27:58 food shops would be more interesting if they sometimes carried muta meat 00:28:02 -!- G-Flex| has joined ##crawl-dev 00:28:08 sky beast jerky! 00:28:51 not sure if food shops are very interesting in the first place 00:28:56 sorry i am unsure what path you want chequers 00:29:05 Zibudo: what does 'whereis sqlite3' show 00:29:08 -!- PsyMar has quit [Disconnected by services] 00:29:22 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1773-gec4f98e (34) 00:29:23 -!- PsyMar2 is now known as PsyMar 00:29:27 sqlite3: /usr/bin/sqlite3 /usr/bin/X11/sqlite3 /usr/include/sqlite3.h /usr/share/man/man1/sqlite3.1.gz 00:30:02 weird 00:30:23 the command is http://puu.sh/ohwzz/7e3d717886.png 00:30:33 try replacing 'sqlite3' with '/usr/bin/sqlite3' in crawl-git-launcher.sh 00:30:39 I can use the crawl user to access sqlite3 /home/crawl/DGL/dgldir/dgamelaunch.db 00:30:45 but i am unsure if these are the same 00:30:54 or adding up the top export PATH="$PATH:/usr/bin" 00:30:55 -!- G-Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:30:55 -!- pantaril has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:30:56 -!- namad7 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:30:56 -!- nithck has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:31:25 -!- bencryption has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:31:25 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:31:25 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:31:25 -!- thrig has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:31:25 -!- bh has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:31:26 -!- Medar has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:31:26 -!- greensnark has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:31:38 -!- greensnark has joined ##crawl-dev 00:31:39 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 00:32:04 -!- Cacheline has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:32:04 -!- Mandevil has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:32:09 -!- Cacheline_ is now known as Cacheline 00:33:24 well i added the path 00:33:29 and it doesnt throw the error anymore 00:33:31 however: http://puu.sh/ohwIl/ee6a072574.png 00:33:41 when i try starting a game it just terminates w/o error 00:34:48 nevermind 00:34:56 i restarted it and it still gives sqlite3 error 00:35:18 even thought you have a PATH with /usr/bin in it? 00:35:22 that's... weird... 00:35:32 fr: muscle shrikes 00:35:59 fr sprite of trogdor for my player doll 00:36:28 you can have the hydrataur, that's pretty similar 00:36:45 actually 00:36:53 fr replace iron giants with muscle shrikes 00:37:01 they come with a band of caustic & shard shrikes 00:37:11 into with they throw you with their powerful bird arms 00:37:21 lol, the hydrataur tile 00:37:25 we do have too many giants. 00:37:42 too many dragons too 00:37:43 hill giant, ettin, two headed ogre, stone giant 00:38:17 frost, fire, titan 00:38:20 antaeus 00:38:23 cyclops 00:38:30 iron giant, now 00:38:34 i was just listing the ones i find identical 00:38:37 oh 00:38:38 yes 00:38:42 could probably add in cyclops too tho 00:39:24 stone giant has a very important difference from the other guys you mentioned 00:39:38 merging 2h ogres & hill giants is something i've been mulling for a while, though 00:39:53 and ettin? 00:40:01 what? no 00:40:13 ettins are fine. good glass cannon monster 00:40:15 @??ettin 00:40:15 ettin (07C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 55-77 | AC/EV: 9/4 | Dam: 45, 45 | 10items, 10doors, two-weapon | Res: 06magic(40), 12drown | XP: 1132 | Sz: Giant | Int: human. 00:40:17 very different threat level from the other two 00:40:20 @??two-headed ogre 00:40:20 two-headed ogre (04O) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 25-39 | AC/EV: 1/4 | Dam: 17, 13 | 10items, 10doors, two-weapon | Res: 06magic(40) | XP: 279 | Sz: Large | Int: human. 00:40:28 sure, but their gimmick is the same 00:40:33 like, i mean, should we merge orc and orc warrior? 00:40:36 their gimmick is the same 00:41:05 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/shrikes.png 00:41:08 there is a place in crawl for "similar monster, but at a different depth". imo 00:41:10 chequers: i got the sqlite3 error to go away when i installed sqlite3 in the chroot, but now its giving me this error: http://puu.sh/ohx3C/f60db72235.png , but i changed the locale outside of the chroot, should i change inside it? 00:41:12 -!- Blazinghbnd_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:41:17 boids 00:41:37 Zibudo: ah of course, the chroot. You probably need to copy in the locale files to your chroot 00:41:46 imo it's not necessary to remove a ton of giants per se, but i would like to have them not be giants 00:41:55 for various reasons 00:42:11 ontoclasm: pidgeot! 00:42:20 xD 00:42:26 needs a sweet crest 00:42:34 -!- Medar has joined ##crawl-dev 00:42:39 Zibudo: maybe /usr/share/locales, /usr/share/locale or /usr/lib/locale. I'm not really sure 00:42:47 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:42:51 the dgl chroot creation script might include reference to this stuff 00:42:59 chequers: i got locales to work, but now I got a real error i guess http://puu.sh/ohx9t/e106ff62a3.png 00:43:22 PleasingFungus: yeah. I just think 'two headed ogre' is a better name than 'ettin' and 2h ogre is in a boring depth right now 00:43:44 so my idea was remove ettin and move 2h ogre up to its threat level 00:44:13 2h ogres used to be even less meaningful than they are now! 00:44:26 titan might be a good candidate for reflavouring, since it doesn't really do anything giant-related 00:44:30 due to being super deep and super rare and still not really that much better than a standard ogre 00:44:36 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:45:06 actually, it's probably a great candidate, since giants probably aren't good at air magic (or maybe they are, since they're closer to the sky???) 00:45:48 !apt og 00:45:48 Og: Fighting: 3!, Short: -4*, Long: -3*, Axes: -3*, Maces: 3!, Polearms: 0, Staves: -1, Slings: -3, Bows: -3, Xbows: -3, Throw: 0, Armour: -2, Dodge: -1, Stealth: -1, Shields: -1, UC: -1, Splcast: 1, Conj: -3*, Hexes: -3, Charms: -3, Summ: -3*, Nec: -3*, Tloc: -3*, Tmut: -3, Fire: -3*, Ice: -3*, Air: -3, Earth: -3*, Poison: -3*, Inv: 1, Evo: -2, Exp: 0, HP: 3!, MP: 0 00:45:59 chequers: i disagree with the premises 00:47:02 there's nothing wrong with my house! 00:47:07 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:47:19 (: 00:48:43 any opinions on the shrike 00:49:02 i like it obviously but i dunno if people are attached to the current ones 00:50:00 tbh i prefer the current ones, i think 00:50:04 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 00:50:07 yours is a cool bird but it's not as threatening 00:50:17 hm 00:50:25 -!- simmarine_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:50:26 might almost be better as a bennu 00:50:29 well i am getting: ERR: ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 111: Can't bind the webtiles socket! 00:50:31 i forget if their tile is good 00:50:37 Zibudo: oh, good! 00:50:41 Zibudo: permissions, probably 00:50:45 so i am unsure if this is an error in chroot or what 00:50:50 Zibudo: i know this one. are you trying to launch crawl? 00:51:10 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:51:10 i might not actually know this one, i've just gotten that error a million times 00:51:11 yea when i try to run it in the browser it pops up with the error 00:51:12 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:51:24 huh 00:51:31 not my bug, then 00:51:33 carry on 00:51:34 D: 00:51:54 chequers: do you know what permissions would be messed up? 00:52:49 cszo is done for? 00:53:08 that's why i am trying to get my server up for my friends, cuz we liked cszo 00:53:36 ah 00:53:47 PleasingFungus: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/crawl/crawl/master/crawl-ref/source/rltiles/mon/animals/bennu.png 00:54:04 i don't think i can fit that crane beak in 00:54:30 imo add your bird to UNUSED, we'll use it eventually 00:54:41 xD 00:54:44 more birds! 00:55:44 Zibudo: it gives that error if it can't open the unix webtiles socket 00:55:54 webtiles server creates a socket in your inprogress dir 00:56:15 but ontoclasm... what ARE birds??? 00:56:56 the socket name is like Ultraviolent4:2016-04-14.04:52:16.sock 00:57:25 dcss is run by the webtiles server with a command like 00:57:31 *a parameter like: 00:57:32 -webtiles-socket /opt/dgl-chroot/tmp/dcss-sockets/Ultraviolent4:2016-04-14.04:52:16.sock 00:57:46 hmm I am kinda lost to be honest, I have the directory with the owner as crawl:crawl, but not in the chroot 00:57:58 could perms be diff between the two? 00:58:46 i think it needs to be in the chroot 00:59:02 in your webserver config.py you have games = OrderedDict(blah 00:59:10 mhm 00:59:13 the socket_path entries under there are relative to the chroot 00:59:45 they need to be writeable by the user webtiles server is running at, and readable by the crawl binaries (which in your case are using the same user) 00:59:46 alright so i run into a little conundrum then 00:59:53 cuz i have user crawl and group crawl 00:59:55 not in chroot 01:00:00 with uid 1001 and guid 1002 01:00:02 but in chroot 01:00:03 CanOfWorms: !!!! 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:07 crawl is 1000:1000 01:00:21 that's fine 01:00:32 all users in your setup should be global, the chroot won't have its own /etc/passwd 01:00:56 well they are, the only user that seems to be not global is the crawl chroot 01:01:05 like they are two different users 01:01:12 with two different sets of uid and guid 01:01:21 cuz i have a main user with already 1000:1000 that is not crawl 01:01:31 so i am confused about perms within chroot 01:01:41 -!- gressup has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:02:17 I'm a bit lost sorry 01:02:25 same 01:02:27 well 01:02:30 in config.py 01:02:38 I have uid and guid set to 1001 and 1002 01:02:39 i don't see why you need a passwd file in the chroot. it might be the way classic webtiles is set up 01:03:06 in any case, if you have it, it should be a copy of the real passwd file 01:03:20 any users with the same name should have matching uid/gid. The alternative is madness 01:03:39 this might require major chowning on your system to bring it back into line, sounds like 01:03:45 and process restarting 01:03:45 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:04:14 I am changing the uid and guid in the chroot 01:04:25 cuz i am very maddened by it lol 01:06:15 okay i fixed the uid and guid stuff 01:06:27 -!- Krakhan|2 is now known as Krakhan 01:06:27 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 01:06:38 do you know which folder I should be editing the perms to tho, because my inprogress dir is crawl:crawl 01:06:52 remember to restart the webtiles server after you update uid/gid 01:07:09 that ownership sounds right, make sure user has rwx permissions on the dir 01:07:12 then I'd try again 01:07:53 nope 01:08:23 user has rwx and restarted nothing happened 01:08:27 still same error 01:08:33 afk for a bit 01:08:40 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:08:50 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 01:09:18 zibudo: setting up a new server? are you following the dev wiki article setup process? 01:09:30 oh boy i am past that 01:09:50 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:09:58 yea i followed that set up, but i am on my last error 01:10:00 sorry, what I meant was, are you rolling your own setup? or are you very closely following the dev wiki? 01:10:02 hopefully lol 01:10:23 i followed it very closely and have troubleshot everything that it hadn't covered 01:10:24 currently 01:10:30 ERR: ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 111: Can't bind the webtiles socket! 01:10:36 i.e. cbro (and cue/clan) are basically following that wiki very closely so we are set up very similar to cszo 01:10:48 cszo 01:10:58 i am testing it on a test domain @ skarner.top 01:10:59 cxc may also be similar. but chequers rolled his own 01:11:13 ill probably end up changing stuff 01:11:19 but i am just getting used to the set up 01:11:22 man. I think I saw that bind error once 01:11:30 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:11:34 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1773-gec4f98e (34) 01:11:37 but I can't remember what I did. tried to update the dev wiki with the issues I ran into 01:11:40 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 01:11:54 I had so many permissions errors 01:11:57 ^ 01:11:59 yea 01:12:23 i've had chroot problems where some things needed to done there specifically 01:12:26 set it up basically 3 times. first one was a failed install. redid it for cbro. then redid it for dbro. oh, did dbro twice. so I guess 4 times 01:12:44 I did a big chown on my chroot on accident once 01:12:45 -!- eb_ has quit [] 01:12:49 THAT took many hours to fix 01:12:52 lol been there 01:12:55 i would have restarted 01:12:57 quicker 01:13:01 well, it was on dbro 01:13:05 so I could compare to cbro 01:13:15 that's good then 01:13:22 with no comparison i would have died 01:13:24 well. probably less stress to just redo it 01:13:32 that's why i have updates every hour 01:13:38 backups* 01:14:07 anyways, I am unsure if this is a permission error, a socket error already being used, or a chroot duality perm error 01:16:33 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 01:16:39 good luck 01:17:24 I'm totally unqualified to run a server. surprised it hasn't burned to the ground yet. |amythest bailed me out many times when things got really confusing 01:17:55 -!- nithck has quit [Changing host] 01:17:55 ugh 01:18:06 hey, i like your server =p 01:18:10 thanks, I've run a lot of other stuff so ill get it eventually 01:18:20 although we'll see if i still like it after all the cszo people migrate over =p 01:18:34 i also like dbro becaue i can't install locally on my laptop 01:18:39 at least not without installing linux 01:18:47 :) 01:19:15 i guess i should register on cdo just to avoid problems 01:19:25 I need to shut it down to do some maintenance. really rilly rilly need to dist-upgrade 01:19:35 get myself at least on 14.04 01:19:54 heh 01:20:03 do it without warning - best practice tbh 01:20:08 worried things will break or versioning will get screwed up on some libraries and I'll have to spend hours trying to fix it 01:20:09 great, all the servers i play on will be down! 01:20:14 =O 01:20:24 so I just keep leaving it at 12.04 01:20:35 haha 01:21:19 -!- yesno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:21:36 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0.1/20160315153207]] 01:22:32 cpo is using webtiles-changes 01:22:39 so that's why i'm not super helpful 01:22:44 yea. need to do that too at some point 01:23:22 ugh 01:23:24 -!- ragingrage has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:23:55 connection refused? whyyyyyy don't you like me cdo?!? 01:24:04 oh well, i'll try to do that on a real computer at some point 01:24:15 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 01:24:15 rather than jack around with this chromeOS ssh client 01:24:22 that i barely understand how to operate anyway 01:26:41 so the command is -webtiles-socket /crawl-master/webserver/sockets/test:2016-04-14.05:07:45.sock -await-connection 01:27:00 which was like what you wrote chequers 01:27:12 -!- FireSight has quit [] 01:28:22 -!- Ultraviolent4 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:31:06 I DID IT 01:31:20 IT WORKS BOIS 01:32:22 :) 01:33:20 holy shit i am too embarassed to say the reason the error was occuring but it's done 01:33:44 don't worry, setting up a crawl server is so fiddly everyone makes "dumb" errors 01:34:18 i'd be happy to help change the wiki tho 01:34:28 and add in errors I came across 01:34:39 you should definitely do that, it would be much appreciated 01:34:53 ofc, always gotta give back since you guys are great 01:34:58 things like feedback on each step, and also 'i got this error, the reason was x and the fix was y' 01:35:40 I will probably wanna change some ordering on 2 particular steps because I think they are wrong, and add some like x.1 and x.2 steps 01:35:52 but that's for tomorrow 01:36:07 gonna go to sleep and work on this again tomorrow 01:36:10 do it now! before you forget! 01:36:14 :) 01:36:16 nah i have a notepad 01:36:17 up 01:36:19 with everything 01:36:24 nice 01:36:30 it's how i keep sane 01:36:33 anyways ttyl 01:37:05 l8r 01:37:18 -!- Zibudo has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:37:37 -!- Jessika has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:38:06 -!- jefus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:40:45 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:50:54 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:52:24 rchandra (L20 OgSu) ERROR: range check error (213 / 70) (Orc:4) 01:52:54 !crashlog rchandra 01:52:55 6. rchandra, XL20 OgSu, T:62250 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/rchandra/crash-rchandra-20160414-055222.txt 01:53:01 -!- rchandra1 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:53:08 stop shopping 01:53:27 haha 01:53:33 what did I do? 01:53:37 -!- rchandra1 is now known as rchandra 01:53:46 dared to go to an orc:4 shop i guess? 01:53:56 did you search for 'grand' and it crashed when you pressed enter? 01:53:57 it was a shop in a bazaar from v4 01:54:11 I did search for grand! 01:54:19 but the crash was from buying the non-grand books 01:54:46 ah, and you were in a bazaar? 01:54:46 only search for regular grimoires! 01:54:47 =P 01:54:58 yeah, chequers 01:55:21 this game was from 0.15 so I'm finding all sorts of treasures 01:55:36 -!- simmarine_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:56:37 rebought the books without using the shopping list, no crash :| 01:59:21 yay 01:59:25 i guess 02:00:44 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 02:03:16 -!- johnsteinVPS has joined ##crawl-dev 02:03:24 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:03:40 the crash lists your lcoation as orc:4 02:04:10 i suspect it's related to portal entry being on a level of a branch that no longer exists, but i'm just making things up 02:08:19 strange, since the bazaar was from v4 02:08:26 though my shopping list does have items from orc 4! 02:08:44 -!- omarax has quit [*.net *.split] 02:08:45 -!- molotove has quit [*.net *.split] 02:08:45 -!- dtsund has quit [*.net *.split] 02:08:45 -!- onmyo has quit [*.net *.split] 02:08:45 -!- johnstein has quit [*.net *.split] 02:08:45 -!- crate has quit [*.net *.split] 02:08:45 -!- Eksell has quit [*.net *.split] 02:08:46 -!- FIQ has quit [*.net *.split] 02:08:46 -!- Kalma has quit [*.net *.split] 02:08:46 -!- Weretaco has quit [*.net *.split] 02:08:46 -!- Grivan has quit [*.net *.split] 02:08:47 -!- sneakyness has quit [*.net *.split] 02:08:47 -!- murphy_slaw has quit [*.net *.split] 02:08:48 -!- kramin has quit [*.net *.split] 02:08:48 -!- endou has quit [*.net *.split] 02:08:49 -!- lvh has quit [*.net *.split] 02:08:49 -!- vonhedlund has quit [*.net *.split] 02:08:49 -!- atrodo has quit [*.net *.split] 02:08:49 -!- Finwe has quit [*.net *.split] 02:08:50 -!- Xjs|moonshine has quit [*.net *.split] 02:08:50 -!- johnsteinVPS is now known as johnstein 02:09:07 -!- fydsga has quit [Client Quit] 02:10:22 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 02:10:49 -!- murphy_slaw has joined ##crawl-dev 02:10:59 -!- fyasds has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:11:33 -!- Eksell has joined ##crawl-dev 02:12:25 -!- FIQ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:21:46 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:26:02 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:27:21 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 02:33:37 what is this nonsense in my morgue about evoking clubs and whips instead of wands and rods? 02:33:47 -!- Blazinghbnd_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:34:10 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/yollama/morgue-yollama-20160414-023527.txt for reference 02:34:16 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:34:56 it was spoken about earlier today 02:35:07 yo llama 02:35:31 from a logfile: start=20160010144044S 02:35:51 to me, that reads as 2016-00-10 14:40:44 02:35:53 00?!? 02:36:00 is month 0-indexed? 02:36:28 chequers: welcome to the 1970s, when weird decisions were made about time structs in C 02:36:52 ugh. is day/hour/min/sec also 0-indexed? 02:37:05 uhhhhhhhh 02:37:20 hour yes, day no...minute, second probably 02:37:48 day no? ok i have to know why month and time was 0 indexed 02:38:12 well, for hours/minutes/seconds 0-indexed is just obvious 02:38:18 it's not 3:60, it's 4:00 02:38:26 oh yeha 02:38:29 end=20160031000042S 02:38:45 you'll love how years are stored 02:39:19 the year in a struct tm is the number of years since 1900 02:39:32 ok, so day is 1-indexed 02:39:36 just month is 0-indexed 02:39:46 amalloy: lol 02:40:57 for months i imagine someone just wrote: enum month { JAN, FEB, ...} 02:41:02 and that turns out to make january 0 02:41:12 but i don't know that for a fact 02:41:13 -!- sorlin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:41:59 seems reasonable. And then use int for the date instead of an enum, because enum ONE = 0 would be weird 02:43:05 right. all decisions that seemed innocuous in the context of writing a C function, but the impact they had on data transfer and serialization is immense and retarded 02:44:07 yeah. taking a string like the above and processing it so the month is 1-indexed is... non-trivial 02:44:08 the 1900 thing seems less innocuous, but then you realize people used to just store the year as a two-character string, with the "19" implied 02:44:32 still do! But I figured they'd assume people want to store pre-1900 dates occasionally?? 02:45:07 well when every byte costs you a dollar or whatever... 02:46:12 a[:4] + '%02d' % (int(a[4:6]) + 1) + a[6:] 02:46:13 simple 02:47:53 naturally. why didn't they think of that in the 70s 02:48:01 -!- Idolo has quit [] 02:48:13 i guess i wasn't around 02:49:10 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 02:50:18 -!- sorlin1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:00:02 -!- omarax_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:03:31 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:04:08 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:07:11 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 03:07:12 the slowest part of logfile parsing, by far, is the regex I use to split the line into segment 03:08:33 might be worth writing something that does dumb string parsing 03:10:02 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:14:26 -!- Blade- has joined ##crawl-dev 03:14:58 i want to post my log file on reddit as evidence that you really can go through extended without rMut, and even come away with a good mutation set if you're careful. but sadly, it would only convince the people who already believe it 03:16:40 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:21:42 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:21:54 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 03:23:58 amalloy: try adding "feminism is a plague on society" to the end of your post. redditors are more likely to believe things if you do that 03:24:13 good Wn randbook: Grimoire of Summoning (Summon Butterflies, Recall) 03:24:20 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1773-gec4f98e (34) 03:24:25 can't let those butterflies get away 03:24:57 "I think the devs are SJWs, they removed the amulet because of ableism" 03:26:07 -!- Mattias has joined ##crawl-dev 03:26:32 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 03:27:41 "you used to need rMut, but anita sarkeesian blackmailed the devs, and they changed extended so that its easy enough that women can do it" 03:28:18 that should about cover it 03:29:08 maybe change "blackmailed" to "cucked" 03:29:30 too real 03:30:04 -!- Cacheline has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:31:24 "anita sarkeesian cucked the devs, therefore you can do extended without rMut" undeniable proof 03:33:11 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:45:06 -!- Evablue_ has quit [Quit: Evablue_] 03:48:42 -!- Kramin42 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:50:25 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:53:40 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 03:54:22 -!- freekillb has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:58:47 -!- Nimuir has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:02:27 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 04:03:03 -!- cojito has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:03:03 -!- ChongLi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:04:46 -!- CcS has quit [Client Quit] 04:05:56 -!- Adum has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:06:15 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:07:17 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:11:48 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:28:08 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:30:31 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:38:06 johnstein: I noticed that my game on cbro goes super laggy on any reach animation, where it animates each cursor movement (in console) extremely slowly) 04:38:20 that comes up a lot in wanderer starts, amalloy (summon + recall) 04:38:25 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:38:35 I'm not sure why that in particular seems to cause such slowdown, but it persists even when I set my view_delay to -1 04:38:53 er, I should confirm that view_delay=-1 is a valid setting though 04:39:46 I wonder of use_animation -= beam affects reach 04:39:54 the animation, that is; I assume it would 05:00:02 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00:07 -!- bencryption has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:02:40 -!- Rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 05:05:23 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 05:05:24 -!- Rast-- has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:14:10 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:15:28 ??cbro 05:15:28 cbro[1/4]: Server in Georgia, US: crawl.beRotato.org -- ssh port 22, username crawler, keys at http://crawl.beRotato.org/crawl/keys (no password access). In case of DNS problems, use crawl.boylecraft.net. Webtiles at: http://crawl.beRotato.org. Use glyph/sigil ^ for bots 05:15:57 johnstein: you should set up https 05:16:04 some people being dumb proxies can't play webtiles over http 05:16:26 cszo had https and a few people in this situation are playing on cpo now, which must be painful 05:22:06 -!- lordfrikk_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:29:25 -!- Rotatell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:31:01 -!- jefus- has joined ##crawl-dev 05:33:02 -!- vonhedlund has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:33:03 -!- pantaril_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:33:03 -!- herself has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:33:36 -!- jefus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:33:36 -!- Ragnor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:33:37 -!- Hiffwe has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:36:26 -!- Nimuir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:42:50 gammafunk, I also do not know why it would do that. likely due to something old or outdated in my setup 05:43:03 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:43:08 chequers, I would likely need help setting that up. 05:43:28 johnstein: yeah, I need to make sure my animation changes are taking effect, but it seemed odd that it stopped being responsive specifically for that 05:43:42 guessing something here would help me with https: https://www.google.com/search?q=set+up+https+on+apache&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 05:43:59 I've noticed lag every so often. I just assumed it was normal 05:43:59 my ping time to cbro is good and there weren't any other real issues with responsiveness 05:44:12 is cbro a physical server or AWS? 05:44:14 yea. I get sporadic reports of laggy behavior 05:44:21 ramnode vps 05:44:25 openVZ 05:44:26 ah ok 05:44:49 when I get reports, I check out the CPU/RAM usage and things look ok 05:45:01 perhaps could be some other vps on the same system. maybe 05:45:19 wonder if something odd happens in the reach animation specifically that eats cpu or something 05:45:25 but if it's happening consistently with animations, that sounds suspciously like some config issue on my part 05:45:49 I do see periodic spikes for crawl games. usually 3% or so RAM/CPU per game 05:46:01 -!- Nimuir has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:46:01 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:46:21 but I'll see the CPU go to 15% or so on occasion. but never could correlate it to an in-game thing since it's not always clear which game it is 05:46:39 rsyncing ttyrecs takes FOREVER 05:46:44 clearly we need to just remove polearms 05:46:54 if anything lags cbro, remove that thing 05:47:00 then we get good performance 05:47:18 in the end we'll just have robotfindskitten 05:48:29 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:51:09 almost through the capital letters now.... 05:52:34 oh, speaking of cbro 05:52:43 I guess it's down? 05:56:16 it is! 05:56:39 moving ttyrecs and I'm too lazy to set up a clever find/rsync command to ensure I don't move ttyrecs for games in progress 05:57:04 shut down webtiles. ensure no ssh users. remove crawler from sshd_config 05:57:07 EASY PEASY 06:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:02:38 -!- edsrzf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:05:30 -!- yesno has quit [Client Quit] 06:14:24 -!- Twinge has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:15:07 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:18:53 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 06:19:12 Webtiles server restarted. 06:29:06 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 06:49:27 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:55:26 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 06:56:20 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:01:29 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:05:38 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 07:15:51 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:18:18 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:18:41 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest80917 07:19:12 -!- Guest80917 has quit [Client Quit] 07:21:35 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:22:09 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 07:22:27 -!- knu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:26:35 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:30:05 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:32:16 -!- Guest59785 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:32:25 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 07:32:48 -!- Wensley is now known as Guest65550 07:43:39 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 07:44:13 johnstein: i think your apache redirects players to talk to the webtiles server directly 07:44:49 -!- techieAgnostic has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4-dev] 07:45:14 johnstein: you'd need a certificate from eg letsencrypt and then to set up ssl_options in config.py 07:48:35 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:49:24 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:53:01 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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I'm trying to figure this out now as well :) 10:29:28 -!- CKyle has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:31:34 friendfixit: my guess is that it's based on whether the role also gives a shield 10:31:41 I haven't looked it up tho 10:33:19 -!- ZanniqlcKzxkq is now known as Zannick 10:35:08 checking in newgame.cc now. job_gets_new_weapon line 1804. it's not just as easy as them both having WCHOICE_GOOD in the job-data.h file. 10:37:33 -!- alvarops has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:37:45 friendfixit: yep, GLADIATOR is free to use quarterstaff thanks to ng-restr.cc on line 104 used in newgame.cc on line 1810 10:37:47 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 10:37:49 1811* 10:38:31 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 10:44:00 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:44:06 -!- namelastname112 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:44:21 why can't you lrd liches? 10:44:30 they are basically skeletons right 10:52:15 very finely crafted skeletons 10:52:25 -!- neizenel is now known as nikheizen 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:48 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:02:35 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:03:44 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:07:23 -!- Karagy has joined ##crawl-dev 11:07:31 Hi! 11:08:27 Some Gods are not count kills via reflection of projectiles. It is ok? 11:13:03 -!- errant_nrx has quit [Quit: EXIT] 11:18:09 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:18:09 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:19:25 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 11:19:25 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please. 11:19:27 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! 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Type ??servers for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic 13:42:08 -!- Jessika has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:43:56 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:47:46 does stat zero randomly paralyse you? 13:48:13 when you reach stat zero you are unrandomly paralysed immediately, once 13:48:13 amalloy: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 13:49:01 -!- simmarine__ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:49:11 hm 13:49:21 okay 13:49:40 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:49:41 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:50:48 -!- endou_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:50:54 -!- IceBlind has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:50:54 -!- kebab has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:50:58 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:51:38 -!- Ragnor has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:51:38 -!- simmarine_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:51:38 -!- Athaboros_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:51:38 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:51:38 -!- vonhedlund has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:51:38 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:51:38 -!- johnny0 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:51:48 -!- johnny0 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:58:48 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:09:19 shit 14:09:26 i screwed up a merge :( 14:10:07 hm, no, nvm. 14:15:52 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:16:03 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:16:50 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 14:20:55 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:28:04 -!- epen has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:33:53 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:35:06 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:38:46 I figured out how to add muta meat to shops in order to make them less disappointing, but what I can't figure out is whether it will just rot away 14:39:03 I'm hoping chunk rot only happens in inventory/floor, does anyone know? 14:39:09 *to food shops 14:41:17 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 14:42:24 -!- kuniqs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:43:40 friendfixit: afaik stuff in shops doesn't really exist 14:43:45 until you buy it 14:44:10 i'm pretty sure it wouldn't rot 14:44:23 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:45:08 ah, awesome. heisenberg meat :D 14:46:25 would it be rude to submit shop meat as a pull request to DCSS proper? I figure with a project this big, keeping it clean is a ton of work 14:47:24 I'm having fun messing with stuff, but i don't want to unduly annoy anyone 14:48:12 friendfixit: people do it all the time; however, if you're hoping to get it accepted, it might be nice to discuss it with a dev 14:48:21 (other than me) 14:48:34 (i'm the tiles guy, i don't mess with balance) 14:48:51 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:51:19 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest70206 14:51:46 I see. as in, chatting about it in here? 14:51:49 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:52:21 i don't think it is a thing that would be likely to be accepted 14:52:28 because in the specific case, I'm sure that "shop muta meat" would get vetoed, but in the general case I'm just feeling out how appropriate it is to bounce random ideas like that off of github 14:53:04 literal meat chunks in the shop is code-easy, but an immersion fail 14:53:04 but it's not a problem necessarily to submit it 14:53:05 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 14:53:11 it should be salted or jerky to explain why it's not rotted 14:54:12 hm, is it possible to just color-shift the jerky tile, without getting an artist to make a new tile for "muta jerky"? 14:54:36 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:55:59 friendfixit: if something gets implemented it'll get a tile sooner or later 14:56:34 there's some kind of bug with casting tornado, as a felid, worshipping chei, while in statue form. the tornado randomly disappears for the duration of the spell. being a felid might be optional 14:57:12 oh speaking of bugs, gozag-bundled "healing potion" effects work on Vs, is that intended? 14:58:44 -!- G-Flex| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:58:51 that's intended, yes 14:58:54 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 14:59:37 cool. hot, in fact! 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:01:51 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 15:03:10 -!- Mordru has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:03:36 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:06:10 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 15:06:24 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:18:09 so there's a problem in _move_player but that function is too tangled for me to see how to fix it. the problem is, if the player follows fedhas and attempts to move into a square which (a) is excluded, and (b) has a plant in it, we print "you walk carefully through the plants" before asking if they really want to move into an excluded area 15:19:35 the print needs to somehow be moved after some call to check_moveto, but along with the print there's this other side effect that changes how other parts of the function behave so you can't just move it 15:21:42 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:23:13 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 15:24:36 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:58 which syntax is correct: "you_wearing(AMU_FAITH)" or "you.wearing(AMU_FAITH)" ? 15:26:10 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:29:11 i think there are multiple bugs where that fedhas message prints at the wrong time, yeah 15:29:26 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:29:26 or possibly other ones were fixed but that one remains, i hadn't seen it for exclusions before 15:37:56 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Client Quit] 15:42:12 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:42:42 -!- mibert has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:44:14 New branch created: pull/255 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/255 15:44:14 03yrmvgh02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/255 * 0.18-a0-1774-g335cd81: Allow armored quarterstaff users (fighter) 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/335cd8157f55 15:45:50 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:55:01 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 15:56:02 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:58:14 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:06:45 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:16:09 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:16:17 -!- spriseris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:18:54 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 16:22:54 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:22:57 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:23:00 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:25:07 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:25:21 -!- ProzacElf_ is now known as PElf 16:26:54 -!- Medar has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:27:16 -!- Medar has joined ##crawl-dev 16:29:30 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:30:42 -!- Shinino has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:32:08 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:33:26 -!- Guest70206 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:33:32 -!- PElf is now known as ProzacElf 16:33:45 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:36:03 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 16:39:41 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:40:20 friendfixit: neither, i would think. instead, you.faith() 16:40:40 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:40:59 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:41:08 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:41:24 -!- insecticide2 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:42:17 amalloy: is that because you.wearing will return false when the amulet is melded into a form you are using? 16:42:43 it's because you.faith() will consider special cases of some kind, and you don't need to know what those are to know that it's better than you.wearing 16:42:57 the one *i* thought of was lacertilians, but melding is another possible issue 16:43:13 ah, yeah, lacerationreptilians :) 16:43:21 I took a peek at those 16:43:36 do you like em? 16:43:58 you should use you.wearing if you care specifically about a hunk of metal around the player's neck; if you care whether they should get piety faster, you want you.faith 16:44:05 i haven't tried them 16:44:59 ok cool, thank you for the help! 16:47:30 so my little ecu altar snippet ultimately will read: else /linebreak/ if (you.faith()) /linebreak/ gain_piety(60, 1, false); 16:47:49 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 16:48:41 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:48:56 I don't actually know what the "1, false" bit does, but it's part of the existing bit for getting 20 piety at an altar :) 16:49:34 -!- somebodya has quit [] 16:52:05 you want ecumenical altars to give players extra piety for praying while wearing faith? i don't think that's a good idea 16:52:34 amalloy: agreed 16:54:53 fair. because it's such a narrow case? because it encourages "bad" play? other? 16:56:37 it's an overbuff of a situation that's already very good. faith is very strong already, and if you have it when you start with an ecu altar you'll be very high on piety quite soon anyway 16:56:43 ^ 16:57:00 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest35614 16:57:12 Also because wearing faith doesn't currently give you extra piety when you join a diety. 16:57:21 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:57:25 right, if you were going to do this you should do it for all altars 16:57:27 so why should it do that when using the ecumenical altar specifically 16:57:30 (not that i think this would be good) 16:58:40 another fairly minor issue is that it introduces a weird breakpoint for "faith. currently "faith is very smooth: whenever you put it on, you start gaining extra piety from then on; delaying by one turn has effectively no impact 16:58:54 I see. mostly, I'm just trying to practice messing with the code. starting with stuff that is comprehensible and probably won't explode when I change it 16:58:59 you'd change that, by making a one-turn delay cost you a lot of piety 16:59:27 i think that's a fine thing to do. i'd encourage you to finish your project even though i don't think we should accept your change 16:59:31 also, I wasn't thinking of it as buffing faith (which it is, I realize now) I was thinking of it as buffing altars (whicn most people consider a bad move) 17:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:34 ecumenical altars aren't really there to be strong. they're there to be exciting 17:01:42 cool cool 17:01:48 thanks for the notes! 17:01:53 friendfixit: in terms of playing around and experimenting, don't worry about what we think 17:02:00 do whatever seems fun and interesting to you 17:02:14 You only need to worry about our opinion if you're looking to get a patch accepted :) 17:03:40 just you wait til I get my mutagenic jerky patch figured out! ;) 17:04:02 haha 17:04:54 for inspiration, look at the circus animals fork. I don't think that coder has done a single thing we'd merge into master, but it seems like they're creating a lot of fun for themselves and their audience 17:05:23 that's what got me started actually! 17:05:41 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:05:47 if it were possible to enable and disable the changes in circus-animals all a la carte, i'd try out the experience_mode=simple_depth 17:05:56 amalloy: what's that do? 17:06:14 nothing gives you any XP at all except for one !exp per floor 17:06:30 and you have to find the !xp? interseting 17:06:34 well, i'm not sure exactly 17:06:37 interesting I mean 17:06:54 the thing that appeals to that about me is encouraging alternate means of dealing with monsters than just murdering them 17:07:01 sneak by, distract them... 17:07:08 Yeah, in principle I like the idea 17:07:24 the widely-lambasted movement options are disabled by default. ;) you could play with that experience mode, and one of the unchanged races 17:07:30 it's not a new idea; there are other roguelikes where that's the core conceit. but i haven't gotten a chance to *try* one of those, and this one is low barrier to entry for me 17:07:37 haha 17:07:51 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:07:53 Those roguelikes probably balance the XP gain a little better 17:07:57 I think minotaurs are untouched. most of the existing "best" options have seen little or no tweaking 17:08:04 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:08:13 s / best / easiest 17:09:25 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:11:45 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:12:34 i don't play a lot of the easy stuff 17:13:28 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:14:24 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:14:27 hmmmm. how to get you that 'vanilla' feel with just the dive-based exp... you could play vine stalker and ban yourself from using the at will lignify. or felid, and leave 2 ring slots unfilled 17:14:52 Ho is untouched, but that's kinda an easy race too 17:15:08 Dr and restart if i turn out mottled :P 17:15:35 ha, true 17:18:30 -!- mamgar has quit [Client Quit] 17:19:47 -!- Floodkiller has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:16 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:26:03 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:26:04 -!- Guest35614 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:26:25 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:27:21 ??8 17:27:21 8[1/2]: This is either a {statue} or a {golem}. It's either totally harmless or an electric golem. 17:27:23 ??8[2 17:27:23 8[2/2]: Is also a marker for extremely out of depth (depth*2+4 depth!) monsters in vaults; both traditional and valued by most devs. Good results: d:4 wolf spiders, d:5 centaur warriors, d:6 fire crabs, d:9 sphinxes, d:10 fire giants, d:11 liches. 17:27:32 !source mon-pick-data.h 17:27:33 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-pick-data.h 17:27:47 ??9 17:27:47 9[1/3]: Gargoyles! Very high AC, but low HP, low EV, creature. Decent conjurations, great melee early. LRD blows them up easily. See: {gargoyle} {war gargoyle} {molten gargoyle}. 17:27:50 ??9[2 17:27:50 9[2/3]: Gargoyles! 17:27:52 ??9[3 17:27:52 9[3/3]: 7 8 it. 17:27:55 ... 17:27:59 !learn del 9[2 17:27:59 Deleted 9[2/3]: Gargoyles! 17:28:36 nice entry 3 (2?) 17:29:08 -!- ontoclasm1 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:30:53 (: 17:31:04 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:31:32 @??salamander stormcaller 17:31:32 salamander stormcaller (05N) | Spd: 10 (swim: 70%) | HD: 15 | HP: 61-86 | AC/EV: 5/10 | Dam: 1004(fire:15-29) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(60), 04fire+++ | Vul: 12cold | XP: 1298 | Sp: fire storm (8d12 / 8d11) | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 17:31:35 @??ogre mage 17:31:35 ogre mage (06O) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 46-66 | AC/EV: 3/7 | Dam: 12 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, unholy, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(80) | XP: 930 | Sp: haste other, crystal spear (3d28), blink, b.fire (3d18), b.cold (3d18), minor healing (2d5) [04emergency] / haste other, mystic blast (3d15), invisibility, confuse, slow / haste other, paralyse, haste, b.lightning (3d17), confus.. 17:31:38 @??fire dragon 17:31:38 fire dragon (04D) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 73-106 | AC/EV: 10/8 | Dam: 20, 13, 1307(trample) | fly | Res: 06magic(60), 05fire++, 03poison, 12drown | Vul: 12cold | XP: 1074 | Sp: fire breath (3d24) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 17:31:56 i need to draw salamanders 17:32:03 * PleasingFungus hisses. 17:32:05 -!- ontoclasm1 is now known as ontoclasm 17:33:16 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 17:33:49 -!- Medar has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:35:39 throw everyone for a loop 17:35:44 make them look like real life salamanders 17:35:49 instead of fire nagas 17:35:53 alternately, turn them into birds 17:36:03 shrike stormcaller 17:37:29 alternatively, wasp swarmcaller 17:37:41 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:38:39 -!- Blade- has joined ##crawl-dev 17:40:02 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:40:41 -!- FIQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:41:01 yes 17:41:13 !seen |amethyst 17:41:13 I last saw |amethyst at Mon Apr 11 22:34:56 2016 UTC (2d 23h 6m 17s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: leaving'. 17:41:31 i am %100 okay with making a bunch of bird sprites 17:41:46 salamander shrikecaller 17:41:56 ! 17:42:05 they call down a caustic shrikenado 17:43:18 newtstorm 17:43:23 I've got a couple questions about akrasiac scoring, by the way 17:43:27 -!- Ququman_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:43:30 -!- FIQ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:43:44 what determines which servers the scoreboard pulls and compiles itself from? 17:44:38 it's manually configured 17:44:41 afaik 17:45:24 -!- Medar has joined ##crawl-dev 17:46:09 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:46:14 is the configuration mainly just adding a new connection string and running the same pull script, or does it have to be modified for each one? 17:48:01 My impression is that it's closer to the former, though I think there might be a few paths per server. 17:49:03 logs, morgues, whatever. 17:50:20 what's all pulled/stored from the servers when a pull is made? I know logfiles are, is there anything else? 17:51:03 -!- PsyMar has quit [Disconnected by services] 17:51:18 -!- PsyMar2 is now known as PsyMar 17:52:19 -!- Twinge has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:52:37 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 17:52:49 -!- edsrzf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:52:56 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:52:56 -!- rax has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:53:07 -!- rax has joined ##crawl-dev 17:53:16 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:53:30 -!- whitephoenix has joined ##crawl-dev 17:53:33 -!- tsujin has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:53:41 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:54:10 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:54:33 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:54:39 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 17:54:39 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 17:54:47 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:54:47 -!- WorkSight has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:54:47 -!- bencryption has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:54:57 -!- Blade- has joined ##crawl-dev 17:55:36 another thing is, is the information processed and stored on the scoring database in a different format, or is it just the raw data being queried every time the scoreboard is pulled up? 17:55:51 it is processed 17:55:53 hence recent issues 17:56:01 -!- sage1234 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:56:25 given the death of the king of cszo, i think gr**nsn*rk is the person you want to t*lk to h*r* 17:56:38 since iirc he originally wrote all this stuff 17:56:43 -!- sorlin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:57:02 ah 17:57:13 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:57:15 -!- Zeor has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:58:01 -!- Ragnor has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:58:20 maybe just the duke or prince of cszo. idk. i'm not picky. 17:59:52 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:07 well, another thing separate from akrasiac is the tournament scripts, because I think scraping the rcfiles is probably the best way to authenticate with the lowest impact on either the local or central server. do you know who maintains them? 18:00:33 and using the same lines as what grabs the #teamcaptain would probably work for that 18:01:35 elliptic is the doux of tournament scripts, and chequers is his apprentice and/or marquess. 18:01:57 (the female version of 'marquess' is 'marchioness', if you're wondering.) 18:05:05 Floodkiller: The data being pulled is the same for Sequell and CAO 18:05:15 Floodkiller: you're already familiar with logfile and milestone? 18:05:25 it's just those files pulled from each server 18:05:47 for CAO it only looks at the logfile, but of course sequell also looks at the milestone file as well 18:07:54 Floodkiller: and this is the repo of the current scoring scripts, which also pull from logfile/milestones and process into a database: https://github.com/crawl/dcss_tourney 18:08:17 current tournament scoring scripts, I should say 18:08:43 The repo for CAO scoring is https://github.com/crawl/scoring 18:09:42 I guess cao scoring is looking at milestones, probably mostly for that games in progress listing, but I don't think it's even doing that for all servers 18:09:44 really? i thought it was "marquis" and "marquess" 18:09:55 So the logfile is the important one for scoring 18:10:17 ProzacElf: both of those are male 18:10:18 i guess that's "marquis" and "marquesa" 18:10:20 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:10:34 marquess really does sound female. but it's not! 18:11:05 OTOH, i view most titles of the nobility as largely interchangeable anyway 18:11:24 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:11:35 this is also a key reason why i prefer hearts of iron to europa universalis/crusader kings =p 18:11:44 haha 18:11:55 "what do you mean i'm only a duke?!?" 18:12:36 I see, it appears every single scoreboard was created as its own table 18:12:52 ProzacElf: could be worse. could be a count! 18:13:01 in ck, anyway (: 18:13:05 or even a baron! 18:13:08 * ProzacElf shudders 18:13:16 n-no! that's impossible! 18:13:25 also i'm pretty sure you just lose if that happens 18:13:29 lol 18:13:30 literally a fate worse than death 18:13:43 i think it was technically possible in EU 18:13:52 Floodkiller: by scoreboard, do you mean scoring page? 18:14:00 As in combo scores, top scores etc 18:14:07 yeah, sorry 18:14:14 eu didn't have government ranks until recently and the lowest rank currently is a duke. this is super off-topic tho 18:14:22 -!- sorlin has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:14:23 oh 18:14:25 hah 18:14:33 also, yes, very off-topic 18:14:42 Floodkiller: chequers is apparently working with someone playing on CPO who does database stuff to update scoring 18:15:06 I don't think they'll use the same database structure or scripts, but I'm not sure 18:15:21 oh, someone is updating scoring already? 18:15:29 Well he'd said as much 18:15:55 I think in the near term he's just polishing up a rework of tournament scoring, but that might use the same back-end tournament code I linked above 18:16:01 and have a bootstrap rework of the html 18:16:07 i'd only heard him working on tournament stuff 18:16:15 didn't realize he was planning anything broader 18:16:23 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:16:37 No he mentioned working on scoring itself, but again not sure what their progress is, and clearly tournament work is happening before that 18:16:55 But yeah you might want to ask about his plans, but why is this relevant to single login, if I may ask? 18:17:20 also that comma was totally valid punctuation to seperate two sentances 18:18:07 argument is that you don't need single log-in if you can isolate scoring problems with rcfile stuff 18:18:09 iirc 18:18:13 probably i'm not explaining it well 18:18:28 mainly to see that I can integrate the account aggregation/scoring pages correctly with the central login 18:18:38 or that 18:18:52 while still allowing unregistered accounts to be shown on the scoreboard if not claimed 18:20:49 account aggregation here referring to all individual instances of an account on the various servers? 18:21:00 unregistered accounts? 18:21:21 that are presumably linked to one account in the central db 18:23:11 account aggregation in the system I am planning would have a central authentication server where players can make a central account. from there, the player can look up an account from one of the servers that scoring collects from and verify the account is theirs (the current idea is to scrape the top line of the rcfile of that account for a string the system generates when you attempt to verify). 18:23:50 once the account has been verified, it (and any other verified accounts) would combine their information together to appear like the current scoring setup 18:23:58 on the user's scoring page 18:24:40 if an account is unregistered, it would show up on the scoring pages as server/nickname instead to indicate that it is not tied with a central account (but is still visible for score comparison) 18:25:25 this would allow people to tie multiple different nicknames from multiple servers together, while avoiding constantly straining either the local or central server with constant verification requests 18:25:38 Is verification basically permanent once done, as in I could remove the top line from my rc after I verify? 18:25:43 yes 18:26:05 but reversible by admins in case of malicious activity 18:26:09 on the central server 18:26:16 -!- Athaboros_home has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:26:44 Oh, so with this system there's no modification to webtiles, it sounds like 18:27:02 as in there's a centralized account with auth, but none of that auth happens in webtiles 18:27:22 yes, but it would still need to be involved with whatever the scoring database is 18:27:39 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:30:07 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:30:31 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0.1/20160315153207]] 18:31:22 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 18:33:54 the idea is mainly to have authentication, but keep the individual servers insulated in case of an attack/accident with the auth server 18:34:26 -!- gressup_ is now known as gressup 18:37:50 -!- Alarkh has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:38:25 Floodkiller: well, that last bit is nice, but I think the more practical issue is that if you have the webtiles servers participate in the auth, things become a lot more complicated and require rewriting webtiles code 18:39:03 And your proposal doesn't change webtiles at all, so that's good, regardless of the reason 18:39:35 yeah, that's why I settled on the rcfile scraping idea, because it looked like the least impact way to do verification 18:40:35 Floodkiller: one thing that wouldn't be terribly hard to do instead of rc scraping 18:40:53 is have the auth server open a websocket to the webtiles user with the user's supplied login data 18:41:08 -!- jetnerd has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:41:11 so they'd just enter the webtiles login/password from a form and it would authenticate on e.g. cbro 18:41:15 and say "ok, this is good" 18:41:29 wow,, howler monkeys look angry 18:41:52 Floodkiller: I'm already doing websocket auth with beem, and it's not hard 18:42:34 Would prevent users from having to fuss with rc files, but scraping rc files is certainly good as an initial approach 18:42:40 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:43:02 it does seem equally as good and low impact 18:43:23 if you get to the point of something working, I can help with the websocket part 18:43:23 but it might bring up user concerns if they have to put their username/password into a different website 18:44:18 Well, I don't think that's much of an issue, if the idea is that this is a server maintained by the dcss dev team 18:44:31 But the rc file approach can certainly work 18:46:44 I suppose what would be nice would be if the auth server could generate some token, and the webtiles server supported contacting the auth server with this token to do the link 18:47:41 This is where we need sanity checking by |amethyst 18:53:16 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:54:37 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 18:54:48 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:57:43 -!- vermi is now known as vermifax 18:57:59 -!- fiyawerx_ is now known as fiyawerx 18:59:44 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:14:30 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:14:55 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:25:04 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:26:45 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:29:39 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:32:19 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:32:49 -!- rrage has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:33:41 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 19:33:46 hi 19:39:58 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:40:36 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:42:48 -!- Franz__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:43:38 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:49:18 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:50:06 X> keystrokes does not always select closest path to downstaircase 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10360 by RoGGa 19:51:37 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 19:55:43 -!- WorkSight has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:24 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 20:02:59 johnstein: i just migrated my own server to letsencrypt ssl, which is pretty easy. ping me if you're interested in setting it up 20:15:48 -!- 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has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:20:16 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:21:22 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:25:25 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 21:27:25 Arena Sprint monster loading problem?? 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10361 by Undo 21:30:37 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:37:13 -!- n1k has joined ##crawl-dev 21:37:45 -!- techieAgno2tic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:38:02 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 21:41:53 -!- techieAgno2tic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:43:47 -!- Cerpin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:44:52 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:45:34 interesting new dragon there 21:46:52 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 21:47:18 -!- techieAgno2tic has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:47:31 -!- n1k has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:47:33 -!- Zekka has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:48:03 -!- n1k has joined ##crawl-dev 21:49:45 That Dragon, Cancer? 21:52:34 !blame2 amalloy 21:52:34 aaammmaaalllllloooyyy 21:52:37 probably 21:52:48 %git 0bbe7b463c4441e2f86c6adf708598ebeb122752 21:52:48 07MarvinPA02 * 0.18-a0-1749-g0bbe7b4: Adjust some arenasprint monster sets 10(3 days ago, 2 files, 13+ 16-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0bbe7b463c44 21:52:50 oops 21:52:53 !unblame2 amalloy 21:53:27 also that commit doesn't seem relevant anyway 21:53:55 er 21:53:56 it was me..... 21:54:16 !blame pleasingfungus 21:54:17 I pronounce pleasingfungus... Guilty! 21:55:44 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1774-gce1f7b6: Fix an arenasprint typo (10361) 10(71 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ce1f7b62af8b 21:56:55 really the bug is that you can't have mottled variant of every colour drac 21:57:00 haha 21:57:18 note that this won't fix that particular save 22:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:01:45 -!- lordfrikk_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:01:50 -!- kajarainbow has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:10:49 -!- } has quit [] 22:13:29 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 22:15:39 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 22:15:45 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:20:33 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:22:05 -!- kajarainbow has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:22:41 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:23:28 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 22:23:46 -!- CaptainFruitcake has joined ##crawl-dev 22:25:02 -!- Zeor1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:25:34 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:25:35 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:25:40 -!- CaptainFruitcake is now known as CanOfWorms 22:26:08 -!- Ragnor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:26:41 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:28:28 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest51220 22:28:40 if anyone's thinking about fixing the "miasma & black smoke have the same tile" issue, a lower-priority version of the same problem is steam sharing a tile with thin fog & grey smoke. 22:31:07 til there's a reason sometimes steam hurts and sometimes it doesn't 22:31:08 -!- vale_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:31:14 lol 22:31:42 is cdo down 22:31:47 ??is cdo down 22:31:56 42 minutes, 30 seconds since last activity (cdo) 22:31:56 is cdo down[1/1]: 42 minutes, 32 seconds since last activity (cdo) 22:32:01 signs point to: 22:32:04 probably 22:32:13 probably fine that thin mist & grey smoke have the same tile, though they are very slightly mechanically distinct. 22:32:45 -!- Guest51220 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:33:31 -!- debo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:36:56 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:36:56 what about gray smoke? 22:37:22 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 22:37:27 myst, mist, grey smoke, gray smoke, purple colored smoke, purple coloured smoke, ... 22:38:17 purple smoke & tloc energy are the last clouds with the same tile, which is probably fine, since they *are* (afaik) identical. 22:40:10 oh, tloc isn't "cosmetic" whereas purple smoke is 22:41:44 obviously 22:41:55 guess what that does 22:42:06 makes things purple? 22:42:19 lol 22:42:29 it prints "foo is engulfed in tloc energy" 22:42:39 duvessa condenses it and uses it as eyeshadow? 22:42:40 whereas you never get an "engulfed in purple smoke" message. 22:42:40 ah 22:42:48 MAJOR DIFFERENCE! 22:43:01 in conclusion, i'm fine with them having the same tile 22:44:28 -!- sorlin has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:44:55 BUT HOW WILL I KNOW WHICH IS WHICH WITHOUT STANDING IN THEM? 22:45:22 x? 22:45:27 fr, ectoplasmic emissions 22:45:38 ejected frmo ghosts when you hit them with swords 22:45:52 -!- sorlin1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:46:33 ghost farts... 22:47:59 [19:39:52] ‹Lasty› If it's not full of beans, I don't even want to hear about it! 22:51:16 crawl 18.0: ghost farts 22:53:28 CanofBeans 22:53:47 Finally, the food reform we've been looking for... 22:59:16 heh 22:59:21 hrm, I kind of need to split out this webtiles code into a library 22:59:25 ProzacElf: I have a picture of duvessa wearing a ton of eyeshadow 22:59:54 haha 22:59:56 he has a lot of duvessa pictures... 22:59:59 why doesn't that surprise me 23:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:14 gammafunk: I only have 6 23:00:59 I mean I have various pictures of sif 23:01:20 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 23:01:35 http://i.imgur.com/F7i7Ywm.png 23:02:16 <3 23:05:45 -!- Zibudo has joined ##crawl-dev 23:06:25 I got that new "Lost World" volcano 23:06:44 I killed all the rare being dwelling inside and burned the forest down 23:06:45 did you die 23:06:48 aww 23:06:51 well, worth hoping 23:07:00 -!- FreekillB has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:07:05 it's kind of sad how there's no volcano effect though 23:07:05 !lm gammafunk volcano 23:07:06 70. [2016-04-14 23:39:50] gammafunk the Eye of the Storm (L15 MfWz of Qazlal) killed the ghost of MorganLeah the Cruncher, a journeyman DrWn of Okawaru on turn 40539. (Volcano) 23:07:20 !lg morganleah drwn volcano 23:07:21 1. MorganLeah the Cruncher (L13 DrWn of Okawaru), blasted by an orc sorcerer (bolt of negative energy) in Volcano (volcano_pools) on 2016-04-14 21:35:41, with 31164 points after 22399 turns and 1:28:44. 23:07:31 pew 23:07:31 !lg 23:07:31 3676. gammafunk the Eye of the Storm (L15 MfWz of Qazlal), quit the game on Orc:2 (enter_volcano_3) on 2016-04-14 23:45:06, with 85605 points after 41048 turns and 3:22:36. 23:07:33 I quit that char anyhow 23:07:38 going to redo with a better build 23:07:38 2slo? 23:07:40 huh 23:07:46 weird 23:07:55 just was getting annoyed 23:08:05 what do you mean by volcano effect? the occasional eruptions? 23:08:09 yes 23:08:11 spreading lava with minecraft or dwarf fortress physics 23:08:17 only like half the volcanoes have that anyway 23:08:17 +1 23:08:21 small pity tho 23:08:21 hrm 23:08:29 really? I thought like every one has it 23:08:35 -!- Floodkiller has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:08:38 doesn't that effect also kill items / monsters? 23:09:51 yeah, it can but volcanos having it tend to make the monsters in an area where this doesn't happen 23:09:57 and the monsters tend to be fire res 23:10:06 doesn't kill items since item destruction was removed 23:10:10 probably 23:10:27 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:11:08 well, the ones that have the rising lava destroy the items 23:11:19 or at least they effectively do 23:11:40 yeah that lava one and the collapsing entrances one 23:12:06 actually I thinkt he forest got burnt down by an eefret 23:12:28 kinda silly that there are volcanoes that are just free items, with more free items if you have movespeed/apportation 23:12:29 something made a fireball? 23:13:02 minmay: that one has some nasty enemies these days 23:13:02 minmay: do you like any of the portals very much? 23:13:04 a few 23:13:22 most of the ones that aren't labs are ok 23:13:34 (either kind of lab) 23:13:40 gammafunk: i don't think there should be anything in the lost world that has fireball. a few monsters have fire breath 23:13:53 yeah but something made a fireball that started a forest fire 23:13:55 I'll watch the tv 23:14:20 !lm . br.enter=volcano -tv:>3:channel=volcano 23:14:25 also, there are four volcanoes that have the big eruption of flames (with warnings) and seven that don't, counting lost_world 23:14:32 66. gammafunk, XL15 MfWz, T:40330 (milestone) requested for volcano: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 23:15:00 what's the problem with labs? minotaur is too variable? 23:15:13 maze solving is a silly skill to test in crawl 23:15:31 back when =tele was still evokable the collapsing entrance volcano was really silly 23:15:47 also, i still maintain that labyrinth should be called maze 23:16:09 labs are waste a few minutes of real-time for some loot 23:16:23 either that or all paths should eventually take you to the center if we want it to actually be a labyrinth 23:16:30 wizlabs too full of weird gimmicks? 23:16:48 i cant think of a wizlab that isnt horrendously spoiler reliant 23:17:05 so basically that, yes 23:17:12 the one with the iood statues? 23:17:14 i enjoy the lab mazes still after 85 of them 23:17:25 iskendrun 23:17:25 spoiler reliant? 23:17:36 i mean, what kind of spoilers do you need for the hellbinder wizlab? 23:17:46 it's fine if you like manual exploration and mapping but that's not a reason to remove autoexplore and the map from the game 23:18:00 I suppose now that you can see the hellbinder's spells it isn't too bad 23:18:10 ProzacElf: consider e.g. the wizlab of dorkhole 23:18:14 look, I was really just intending to only complain about a couple of volcanoes, not every portal in the game at once 23:18:16 zonguldrok 23:18:20 i don't think i've ever bothered to look at hellbinder's spells 23:18:22 minmay: :) 23:18:30 minmay: ha ha ha! you have no power here!!! 23:18:32 i've never actually seen zonguldrok's wizlab 23:18:36 o 23:18:38 it's goofy 23:18:46 what about vagina wizlab 23:18:48 dorkhole is lame though 23:18:54 i just leave that one 23:18:55 that communictes its dangers quite well imo 23:19:01 dorkhole's tomb i mean 23:19:11 the vagina one is pretty straightforward 23:19:24 although i was more scared of cig's monster than i needed to be at first 23:19:34 imo spoiler reliant vaults/portals etc. are the only things which make dcss enjoyable to play 23:19:47 this is after playing 0.6.0 for about a week 23:19:48 my armpit looks more like a vagina than any of the wizlabs 23:19:56 so youll have to be more specific 23:20:00 it's referring to fleshworks 23:20:02 the "doors" 23:20:11 you part the fleshy orifice 23:20:13 -!- StarButterfly has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:20:14 i thought you played tiles minmay 23:20:33 or do you play console and complain about console 23:20:45 no he's actually good and plays console of course! 23:20:50 -!- foophykins has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:20:54 fleshworks is pretty bad imo because yo get such a big advantage from knowing how fog generators work 23:21:20 i certainly don't 23:21:33 but yeah, dpeg's loot-destroying thing is pretty frustrating I guess. Arguments about the flavor aside, it's really hard to know what you're supposed to do when you first encounter it 23:21:38 if you got rid of the one in the middle i would have no problem with it 23:21:53 And "look you saw loot but didn't get it" isn't really the best basis of a portal 23:22:00 which loot destroying thing? 23:22:02 even if you stand in the muta fog, you don't get yellow contam for a few turns 23:22:24 dpeg's volcano raises lava on a timer 23:22:30 -!- JChrist has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:22:30 which will destroy items 23:22:41 "raises" means it places lava on former floor tiles 23:22:44 oh right, I forgot mutagenic fog was changed oops. I suppose I have no major problem with fleshworks other than renamed monsters, then 23:22:59 -!- wheals__ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:23:12 oh, yeah, that one sucks 23:23:18 -!- Rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 23:23:30 !vault volcano_overflow 23:23:30 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/volcano.des#l1353 23:23:30 but yeah, i was scared of cigotuvi's monster 23:23:33 -!- xaibudo has joined ##crawl-dev 23:23:40 till i realized it was just a reskinned tmons 23:23:46 I don't like the rising lava/collapsing entrance volcanoes because they're basically just movespeed/apportation checks 23:23:49 oh that was changed by hangeman recently 23:23:52 i guess it might be a little tougher than a regular tmons 23:23:54 cig's monster, I mean 23:23:59 what minmay said 23:24:00 @??cigotuvi's monster 23:24:01 Cigotuvi's Monster (13H) | Spd: 10 | HD: 27 | HP: 122-169 | AC/EV: 13/5 | Dam: 40, 2507(trample), 25(reach), 2503(constrict) | 07vault | Res: 06magic(108), 02cold, 03poison | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 3765 | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 23:24:14 it's a chimera thingy? 23:24:15 I think 23:24:20 but note the attacks 23:24:23 it has reach? 23:24:26 and hd:27 23:24:35 @??tentacled monstrosity 23:24:35 tentacled monstrosity (03X) | Spd: 10 | HD: 23 | HP: 103-149 | AC/EV: 5/5 | Dam: 22, 17, 13, 903(constrict) | 05demonic, 10doors, amphibious, unholy, see invisible | Res: 06magic(160), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 2971 | Sz: Giant | Int: human. 23:24:44 yeah it's a chimera with a 40,25trample, 25 reach, 25 constrict 23:24:47 i guess the AC is notably higher too 23:24:50 so a lot nastier 23:24:52 ProzacElf, everyone knows you cant add a new melee monster unless it has at least 4 different attack flavours 23:24:56 the monster is now a mutant beast 23:24:56 it's no longer a tmons base monster at all 23:24:57 see tomb 23:24:57 haha 23:25:20 unknown monster: "cigutovi's_monster" 23:25:20 %??cigutovi's_monster 23:25:24 unknown monster: "cigutovi's monster" 23:25:24 %??cigutovi's monster 23:25:26 er 23:25:37 -!- tealeaves has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:25:37 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:25:46 unknown monster: "cigutovis monster" 23:25:46 %??cigutovis monster 23:25:52 not sure what chei doesn't like that 23:25:56 because you can't spell 23:26:00 lol 23:26:02 yeah, that one 23:26:04 oh I changed it 23:26:08 Cigotuvi's Monster (13H) | Spd: 10 | HD: 27 | HP: 122-169 | AC/EV: 13/5 | Dam: 40, 2507(trample), 25(reach), 2503(constrict) | 07vault | Res: 06magic(108), 02cold, 03poison | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 3765 | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 23:26:08 %??cigotuvi's monster 23:26:16 er 23:26:18 uh oh 23:26:24 did chei get updated? 23:26:28 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.15-b1-44-gb588af2 23:26:28 %?-version 23:26:29 -!- Zeor has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:26:30 -!- } has quit [] 23:26:36 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.18-a0-1640-g8b6524e 23:26:36 %??-version 23:26:40 ! 23:26:49 when did this happen! 23:26:52 it's always been cig O t U vi 23:27:00 Cigotuvi's Monster (13X) | Spd: 10 | HD: 23 | HP: 200 | AC/EV: 5/5 | Dam: 22, 17, 13, 903(constrict) | 05demonic, 10doors, amphibious, see invisible, 07vault | Res: 06magic(153), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 4221 | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 23:27:00 %?cigotuvi's monster 23:27:07 No I mean the version, chei was stuck in 0.17 forever 23:27:13 ah 23:27:19 I mean, he's still stuck in 0.15 23:27:29 no that's for one ? 23:27:39 for two it was 0.17, a beta version 23:27:40 now it's trunk 23:27:52 -!- Leafsnail has quit [Quit: A day without sunshine is like .... night] 23:28:04 yes but isn't one ? supposed to be for the current stable version 23:28:04 Could not execute monster-0.16: No such file or directory 23:28:04 %0.16?-version 23:28:05 wouldn't it be better to have a bot that covers the latest stable 23:28:06 not that it ever is 23:28:09 but isn't it supposed to be 23:28:14 Could not execute monster-0.17: No such file or directory 23:28:14 %0.17?-version 23:28:20 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.15-b1-44-gb588af2 23:28:20 %0.15?-version 23:28:57 welp, that's weird, but yeah it's no longer a tmons and it's probably going to kill someone (who hasn't read the spoilers) 23:29:02 anyway here's duvessa wearing a ton of eyeshadow http://i.imgur.com/Y1sJuS9.jpg 23:29:05 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:29:08 !lg * ikiller~~cigotuvi 23:29:09 21. kroki the Executioner (L22 MiSk of Makhleb), mangled by Cigotuvi's Monster in WizLab (wizlab_cigotuvi) on 2016-04-03 10:57:52, with 431181 points after 73346 turns and 1:33:27. 23:29:18 well, took you long enough to get around to that minmay 23:29:19 =p 23:29:30 but do you have a picture of duvessa with her bro 23:30:00 CanOfWorms: http://i.imgur.com/dDUrQ2B.jpg 23:30:10 nice 23:30:18 @??dowan 23:30:18 Dowan (05e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 3 | HP: 21-28 | AC/EV: 2/13 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 68 | Sp: throw frost (3d5), corona, blink, throw flame (3d5), haste other | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 23:30:27 hmm 23:30:35 how do you query angry dowan 23:30:40 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 23:30:44 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 23:30:57 don't think you can 23:31:03 heh 23:31:17 -!- wheals__ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:31:59 -!- Blade-_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:32:07 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:32:34 -!- Zibudo has quit [*.net *.split] 23:32:35 -!- P_R_Deltoid has quit [*.net *.split] 23:32:35 -!- Grivan has quit [*.net *.split] 23:32:35 -!- muravey has quit [*.net *.split] 23:32:35 -!- wheals_ has quit [*.net *.split] 23:32:35 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [*.net *.split] 23:32:35 -!- MgDark has quit [*.net *.split] 23:32:35 -!- vonhedlund has quit [*.net *.split] 23:32:35 -!- eb has quit [*.net *.split] 23:32:36 -!- ChongLi_ has quit [*.net *.split] 23:32:36 -!- Rast-- has quit [*.net *.split] 23:32:36 -!- _sk has quit [*.net *.split] 23:32:36 -!- Rjs has quit [*.net *.split] 23:33:00 hmm, amusing how dowan's upgraded spell for throw flame is stone arrow instead of some kind of fire spell 23:33:16 although I guess he doesn't get a hex for corona either 23:33:18 he realized earth magic is better than fire 23:33:19 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 23:33:23 -!- Zibudo has joined ##crawl-dev 23:33:28 and that hexes are for them gross stabby dirty spriggans 23:33:34 wow 23:33:36 racist 23:33:39 he realized that physical damage is better than elemental damage since it doesnt check a resist in addition to AC 23:34:12 also he realized that monster stone arrow does huge damage for some reason 23:34:36 -!- xaibudo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:34:43 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:34:45 ??stone arrow 23:34:45 stone arrow[1/1]: A level 3 earth/conjuration spell. Found in the book of Geomancy, starting book for EEs. Does 3d11 dmg at max power. Does massive damage from ghosts for some reason. To-hit: 8+power/10. 23:35:00 @?? gargoyle 23:35:00 gargoyle (159) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 23-32 | AC/EV: 18/6 | Dam: 20 | 11non-living, 10items, 10doors, fly, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(40), 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 414 | Sp: stone arrow (3d12) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 23:35:56 npc gargoyles are simply the best there is when it comes to earth/conj 23:36:36 @??dowan spells:stone_arrow.1.wizard;iskenderuns_mystic_blast.1.wizard 23:36:36 Unknown spell name: 'iskenderuns mystic blast' in 'stone_arrow.1.wizard;iskenderuns_mystic_blast.1.wizard' 23:36:39 @??dowan spells:stone_arrow.1.wizard;iskenderun's_mystic_blast.1.wizard 23:36:39 Dowan (05e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 3 | HP: 21-28 | AC/EV: 2/13 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 68 | Sp: stone arrow (3d8), mystic blast (3d9) | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 23:36:50 oh, I guess it does less damage than imb at that HD 23:36:56 @??dowan hd:6 spells:stone_arrow.1.wizard;iskenderun's_mystic_blast.1.wizard 23:36:56 Dowan (05e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 42-57 | AC/EV: 2/13 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 359 | Sp: stone arrow (3d12), mystic blast (3d12) | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 23:37:01 @??dowan hd:12 spells:stone_arrow.1.wizard;iskenderun's_mystic_blast.1.wizard 23:37:01 Dowan (05e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 81-113 | AC/EV: 2/13 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 1287 | Sp: stone arrow (3d19), mystic blast (3d17) | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 23:37:06 crawl why 23:37:22 IMB might be good lore since he wouldn't use it while duvessa was still alive for fear of friendly fire 23:38:15 I think foe ratio would actually handle that 23:38:19 assuming it's accurate about what's affected 23:38:30 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 23:38:41 LORE I said, not your stupid CODE 23:38:43 as in it can actually see monsters hit by the imb AOE 23:38:53 But code *is* the lore! 23:39:05 I guess @crawlcode is lore 23:39:24 -!- HOAKguy123 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:47:50 he would still kill duvessa with it sometimes 23:53:25 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:57:22 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:59:14 -!- Enthusiasm has quit [] 23:59:36 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1774-gce1f7b6 (34)