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I wonder if that's a level gen bug rather than a tele bug per se 00:47:31 yea 00:47:37 I have no idea why that got generated 00:47:42 but it's clearly not a premade vault 00:48:08 I'm not sure if tengu/black dracs can get tp'd over lava 00:48:10 you could submit a picture of the minimap (especially if you have ?mapping) as a bug to mantis 00:49:27 flying gargoyles can teleport over deep water, at least 00:49:51 really the issue is just that that thing shouldn't have been generated in the first place 00:49:54 so I think the teleport picking deep water is fine, but the level gen creating disconnected lake is not fine 00:50:57 I have seen weird little disconnected ponds like this generate before 00:51:17 and found them via inadvertent magic mapping, so it's probably not that uncommon 00:54:06 -!- Grivan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:54:09 there are definitely lots of weird bugs in the level gen. I've opened a few bugs about it too 00:54:21 unfortunately nobody really touches that code 00:54:34 one must summon the wizard known as infiniplex 01:01:07 -!- Franz__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:01:08 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:02:05 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1570-gf60b0ab (34) 01:03:31 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1570-gf60b0ab (34) 01:03:47 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 01:06:06 yesssss 01:06:11 it's time 01:10:28 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:10:44 time for what? 01:11:16 -!- milgwyn has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:11:18 !seen gammafunk 01:11:18 I last saw gammafunk at Sat Mar 12 15:30:15 2016 UTC (1d 13h 41m 2s ago) joining the channel. 01:12:02 !tell gammafunk if you're still devving, I think the pakellas experiment vault messages deserve a force_more so the player doesn't miss them when o-spamming 01:12:03 chequers: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 01:12:25 time for the new abomination tiles 01:12:55 chequers: there's nothing special about disto blinks, afaik 01:13:09 blink restrictions != tele restrictions 01:17:46 PleasingFungus: there was a case where someone was blinked into a cell while silenced 01:17:52 one of the cells in evilmike_wizard_prison 01:18:20 yes 01:18:21 that's not a bug 01:18:30 that's bad, but it's all intended functionality 01:18:37 working together in an unfortunate way 01:18:47 design problem 01:19:48 emergent player hatred 01:20:16 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:20:24 just so 01:20:47 i mean, there's something that needs to be fixed there, but the fact that blink does not respect no_random_tele_into is not a bug 01:21:10 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:25:13 heh 01:25:34 if you get trapped in that cell you really should have had some digging or disint on hand, now shouldn't you? 01:25:55 didn't someone change that vault pretty recently? 01:26:10 like, make it smaller so the silence covers the whole thing or something? 01:27:14 prozac: ru??? 01:27:19 ru_unreasons 01:27:31 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:28:55 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 01:30:01 hahaha 01:30:17 fr: a shovel 01:30:38 i swear stupid sacrifice artifice creates so many issues that basically don't exist otherwise 01:32:28 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:32:38 yep 01:32:48 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:32:50 though fwiw, the problem game was not ru 01:35:21 heh 01:35:34 tbh, i actually like sacrifice artifice 01:35:50 unless i actually already have one or more good evokables by the time it comes up =p 01:35:59 it's worth a ton of piety and you can typically work around it 01:36:21 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:36:43 and well, what good is a wizard prison if just any yahoo can break out of it? =p 01:36:50 -!- giann1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:36:53 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:37:57 pleasingfungus: there's a player on cszo in the abyss right now if you want to see some live abomination action 01:37:59 oh my god 01:38:06 he just encountered happy feet 01:38:21 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:40:31 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:41:30 =OP 01:41:33 =O even 01:41:44 i want to see happy feet! 01:41:52 and jolly fat two-headed guy! 01:41:57 and the whole gang! 01:42:25 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:43:49 is that fat guy now? 01:43:56 or a different multihead one? 01:44:33 THERE HE IS 01:44:34 different multihead one 01:44:38 hydrabomination 01:44:40 now it's fat dude 01:44:51 and miracle of unlife 01:45:09 haha 01:46:43 wow, deep elves are terrible. he's xl 27 with 124 mhp and 12/19/7 defense? 01:47:11 musashi? 01:47:16 yeah 01:47:40 -!- Athaboros has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:47:44 oh, i guess some of that at least must've been due to transient muts 01:47:56 yeah he normally has 25 EV 01:48:01 and 150 HP 01:48:22 haha, this does not improve my opinion of deep elves much though =p 01:51:48 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:55:36 for reference 01:55:40 27 fighting DE has 199 HP 01:56:40 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:59:30 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 02:01:09 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:07:27 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:15:00 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:17:04 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:18:13 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1570-gf60b0ab (34) 02:30:51 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:30:57 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 02:35:06 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:42:01 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 02:50:43 -!- FireSight has quit [] 02:54:19 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:54:22 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1570-gf60b0ab 03:01:02 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:01:09 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02:52 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:07:11 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:07:30 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0/20160303134406]] 03:13:30 -!- koboldina_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:13:40 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1570-gf60b0ab (34) 03:15:29 -!- nosratheno has quit [*.net *.split] 03:15:29 -!- bmfx has quit [*.net *.split] 03:15:29 -!- molotove has quit [*.net *.split] 03:15:29 -!- finrod has quit [*.net *.split] 03:15:30 -!- G-Flex| has quit [*.net *.split] 03:15:30 -!- nimtz has quit [*.net *.split] 03:15:30 -!- Sonderblade has quit [*.net *.split] 03:15:30 -!- Lantell has quit [*.net *.split] 03:15:30 -!- rax_ has quit [*.net *.split] 03:15:30 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [*.net *.split] 03:15:30 -!- johnstein has quit [*.net *.split] 03:15:30 -!- timbabwe_ has quit [*.net *.split] 03:15:30 -!- Napkin has quit [*.net *.split] 03:15:30 -!- Finwe has quit [*.net *.split] 03:15:30 -!- FatShack has quit [*.net *.split] 03:15:31 -!- yernab has quit [*.net *.split] 03:15:31 -!- Gretell has quit [*.net *.split] 03:15:37 -!- Napkin has joined ##crawl-dev 03:16:10 -!- G-Flex| has joined ##crawl-dev 03:16:10 -!- Lantell has joined ##crawl-dev 03:16:10 -!- rax_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:16:10 -!- johnstein has joined ##crawl-dev 03:16:10 -!- FatShack has joined ##crawl-dev 03:16:10 -!- Gretell has joined ##crawl-dev 03:16:13 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:26:34 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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ZZZzzz…] 13:51:03 ohh 13:52:29 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:53:05 Are there any plans to protect account names accross all servers? I used to make a new account on every new server so that no one could use my name. But it still happened, someone used my name somewhere and now my games are shared with someone who dies a lot before d:3 13:53:41 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:53:48 That person doesn't seem to be playing actively anymore but still, I don't want to have those games on my record 13:54:03 the current best solution is to do something like set up a nick 13:54:10 which excludes the problem server(s) 13:54:18 it sucks like hell and I wish we had a better solution 13:54:53 -!- njorth has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:56:06 -!- Bcadren has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:56:52 -!- endou has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:56:53 Are credentials stored in a database or in some kind of file specific to crawl? 13:56:58 -!- Porost_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:57:31 If it's a db, all servers could use the same db? 13:58:30 'easier said than done' 13:58:33 Wahaha: shared signon is something that's been wanted for a long time, and some devs keep hoping to get around to it, but it's not as easy as just creating a shared database 13:59:04 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:01:10 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01:12 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 14:02:53 Is there any discussion about this that I can read? 14:04:58 containing potential solutions with pros/cons. Or was it not discussed much 14:05:04 it was discussed intensively 14:05:09 mainly on irc, a year or two ago 14:05:17 probably some on crd 14:06:03 you'd have to go trawling through the logs 14:08:14 it ended up being postponed after webtiles-changes 14:08:21 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 14:08:22 which will be soon celebrating its 3rd birthday 14:08:45 er, 2nd 14:08:45 I don't know what webtiles-changes is 14:09:28 -!- Bcadren_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:10:10 I guess I'll hope that someone will provide a short summary of the situation 14:11:22 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 14:11:30 webtiles-changes is a rewrite of webtiles stuck in the unfortunate position of "only a few devs know what it does, and they keep leaving". 14:12:13 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 14:12:40 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:13:40 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:14:07 Does webtiles-changes include stuff that would affect the way shared logins would be implemented? 14:14:08 last i heard of it it was waiting for |amethyst to get holiday off around dec. 2014 so he could roll it out on cszo 14:18:37 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:19:53 -!- Bcadren_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:25:56 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1689-g1c4808b: Add movement warning prompts for self-Transfer 10(46 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1c4808b47273 14:25:56 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1690-g23b3303: Spawn ancestors aggressive 10(41 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/23b3303ae960 14:25:56 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1691-g8a629f1: Fix? some unsigned comparison warnings (chequers) 10(37 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8a629f1bfb4d 14:25:56 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1692-g309ac77: Timeout idealization while offlevel 10(35 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/309ac77a6af9 14:25:56 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1693-gfd5a3ae: Fix 1 HD ancestor spellpow crash (MarvinPA) 10(22 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fd5a3aee3c7f 14:25:56 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1694-ge4b3ff2: Fix ally/invis mon interaction (Xenobreeder) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e4b3ff25d2d0 14:26:28 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1571-g22b4fda: Fix ally/invis mon interaction (Xenobreeder) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/22b4fdabfaec 14:32:04 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 14:34:40 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:36:25 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:54:20 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:54:45 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:55:54 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:58:18 -!- jetnerd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:59:41 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:01:10 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:01:27 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:03:27 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:03:35 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 15:05:19 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1724-g273c912: Merge branch 'master' into combo_god 10(39 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/273c912d999d 15:05:19 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1725-g46e6353: Cut H ability costs 10(33 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/46e63532dfeb 15:05:19 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1726-g399342b: Re-add a simpler swap effect 10(7 minutes ago, 3 files, 29+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/399342b36b98 15:07:57 !learn s hepliaklqana[1 Experimental God of ancestral memory, playable on cbro. Grants a powerful, customizable permanent ancestor at ** piety, which will be automatically revived if slain (after a few dozen turns). Likes exploration, hates felids. 0*: ally & recall, 2*: Remember Life, 3*: {Transference}, 4*: {Idealise}, 5*: Transference-slow 15:07:57 hepliaklqana[1/4]: Experimental God of ancestral memory, playable on cbro. Grants a powerful, customizable permanent ancestor at ** piety, which will be automatically revived if slain (after a few dozen turns). Likes exploration, hates felids. 0*: ally & recall, 2*: Remember Life, 3*: {Transference}, 4*: {Idealise}, 5*: Transference-slow 15:09:26 !learn s transference[1 Hepliaklqana 5* ability. Switch any creature's location (including yourself!) with your ancestor's, as long as your ancestor is in LOS. At 5*, also slows creatures adjacent to the target for a duration dependent on invo; from 3-6 to 11-20 turns, at 0/27 invo respectively. 15:09:27 Transference[1/1]: Hepliaklqana 5* ability. Switch any creature's location (including yourself!) with your ancestor's, as long as your ancestor is in LOS. At 5*, also slows creatures adjacent to the target for a duration dependent on invo; from 3-6 to 11-20 turns, at 0/27 invo respectively. 15:09:45 oops 15:10:04 !learn e Transference[1 s/a 5/a 3 15:10:04 Transference[1/1]: Hepliaklqana 3* ability. Switch any creature's location (including yourself!) with your ancestor's, as long as your ancestor is in LOS. At 5*, also slows creatures adjacent to the target for a duration dependent on invo; from 3-6 to 11-20 turns, at 0/27 invo respectively. 15:10:06 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 15:10:18 !learn del Romanticise 15:10:19 Deleted Romanticise[1/1]: Hepliaklqana 3* ability. Heal your ancestor, remove debilitating status effects, and provide a short-duration ac buff. Healing & buff duration scale with Invocations. 15:11:11 !learn s Idealise Hepliaklqana 4* ability. Heal your ancestor, remove debilitating status effects, and provide a short-duration AC, damage & spellpower buff. Healing & buff duration scale with Invocations. 15:11:11 Idealise[1/1]: Hepliaklqana 4* ability. Heal your ancestor, remove debilitating status effects, and provide a short-duration AC, damage & spellpower buff. Healing & buff duration scale with Invocations. 15:11:20 !learn del remember death 15:11:20 Deleted Remember Death[1/1]: Hepliaklqana 6* ability. Choose one of five on-death/swap effects for your ancestor (only three are offered in a given game): Slow (slow nearby enemies), Fog (creates fog), Disperse (as {Dispersal}), Implode (as {Gell's Gravitas}), Explosion (an explosion). None will harm the player or ancestor. Choice is permanent. 15:11:24 !learn del ancestor death 15:11:25 Deleted Ancestor Death[1/1]: See {Remember Death} 15:11:51 hopefully that's everything 15:12:02 rip H? 15:12:10 it died 15:12:13 but will be 15:12:16 !glasses 15:12:16 ( •_•)    ( •_•)>⌐■-■    (⌐■_■) 15:12:18 remembered 15:12:37 i seriously need to do more playtesting... 15:13:37 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 15:14:14 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:19:01 -!- Wahaha has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:21:21 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 15:23:05 -!- Elitist has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:28:02 Experimental (combo_god) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1726-g399342b 15:29:03 -!- Zargon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:30:58 -!- Implojin has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:31:13 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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16:33:21 ignore last trailing slash 16:33:33 *autogenerate & serve, I should say 16:33:37 and then link in a new tab 16:33:39 <|amethyst> hm 16:33:46 <|amethyst> might be simpler to have webtiles serve it 16:33:53 no that's what i meant 16:33:54 <|amethyst> oh, I guess that's what you meant 16:33:55 sorry 16:34:03 my version was ambiguous 16:34:08 but yeah 16:34:24 <|amethyst> hm 16:35:34 <|amethyst> would need to be per-version 16:35:59 ah, true 16:36:13 #trunk_db_mesm_status ? 16:36:15 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 16:36:39 -!- AnFair has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:37:28 -!- Bcadren_ is now known as bcadren 16:37:28 <|amethyst> I was thinking /gamedata//dbquery#mesm_status 16:37:43 <|amethyst> "trunk" isn't really a specific enough version 16:37:59 -!- iafm has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:38:00 .orc definitely sounds like a real tld 16:38:16 neil (L1 HuFi) ERROR: short read while reading save (D:1) 16:38:17 if it isn't it should be imo 16:38:18 i wasn't sure what paths webserver is allowed to, well, serve 16:38:36 all the stuff you see when playing normally is just anchors, yeah? 16:38:41 <|amethyst> ? 16:38:42 MarvinPA: wow, I didn't even notice I'd typed that 16:38:55 |amethyst: i'm not sure how to explain without sounding stupid, possibly because it is stupid 16:39:00 <|amethyst> what do you mean "just anchors"? 16:39:30 http://crawl.s-z.org/#lobby , http://crawl.s-z.org/#watch-HowlingFantods http://crawl.s-z.org/#play-dcss-git 16:39:39 <|amethyst> ah 16:39:46 <|amethyst> those are the URLs the player would see normally 16:40:12 <|amethyst> but e.g. the javascript for a particular version is served at /gamedata//cell_renderer.js and friends 16:40:20 ahh 16:40:25 <|amethyst> and the global javascript is served at /static/ 16:40:36 <|amethyst> images are in /gamedata// as well 16:40:51 <|amethyst> would need a new URL handler for whatever so it doesn't try to find a file with that name 16:41:01 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 16:42:20 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:42:50 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 16:44:14 neil (L1 HuFi) ERROR: short read while reading save (D:1) 16:44:23 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:46:40 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:46:57 -!- gressup has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:50:45 -!- giann has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:51:04 <|amethyst> hm, how to treat this case 16:51:16 -!- CacoS_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:51:31 -!- CcS has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:51:58 <|amethyst> I guess in general an short read failure there could mean anywhere from 0 to 3 bytes 16:52:23 <|amethyst> if it's 0 bytes I see no problem with using it (and padding it out as necessary, which there is already code to do) 16:52:36 <|amethyst> but if it's 1-3 bytes I'm not sure I'd want to overwrite it 16:53:37 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest66467 16:53:43 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:55:18 <|amethyst> eh 16:55:24 <|amethyst> at most 1-3 bytes lost, right :) 16:57:35 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-1572-g0a86841: Don't crash when encountering a zero-byte timestamp file. 10(25 minutes ago, 1 file, 16+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0a86841e96d6 16:57:50 <|amethyst> Let's see if that worked 16:57:54 <|amethyst> rebuilding CSZO 16:58:20 let's see which species gets hellfire this time 16:58:32 now that's a real... can... of worms....... 16:58:39 ! 16:58:53 ; ) 16:59:27 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1572-g0a86841 (34) 17:00:26 <|amethyst> that seems to fix it 17:00:54 <|amethyst> maybe I should have a DGL setup at home so I don't have to test things like that on the server :) 17:01:01 pft 17:01:11 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:04:36 !tv bl4d3 current trunk volcano 17:04:37 1. bl4d3, XL12 DDFi, T:11089 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 17:06:30 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:06:48 !gamesby bl4d3 17:06:49 bl4d3 has played 183 games, between 2016-02-03 05:03:06 and 2016-03-14 06:47:43, won 0, high score 405505, total score 1639659, total turns 1057979, play-time/day 1:39:30, total time 2d+20:00:00. 17:06:56 !hs bl4d3 17:06:57 183. bl4d3 the Slayer (L23 GrFi of The Shining One), blasted by a sphinx (divine providence) on Tomb:1 (tomb_1) on 2016-03-12 03:07:46, with 405505 points after 56897 turns and 4:44:54. 17:07:00 deng 17:14:44 -!- neuralroberts has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:18:39 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Quit: Excess flood] 17:20:04 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:24:21 -!- giann has joined ##crawl-dev 17:32:05 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:35:58 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 17:36:22 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 17:36:58 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:37:08 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:41:57 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 17:47:32 -!- Sandman25 has quit [Client Quit] 17:49:20 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 17:49:30 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 17:52:02 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Demise101, XL24 MiAs, T:72531: https://crawl.project357.org/morgue/Demise101/morgue-Demise101-20160314-105549.txt 20:44:54 hm 20:44:54 -!- vfoley has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:45:15 %git 2d5df2f 20:45:15 07chequers02 * 0.18-a0-1305-g2d5df2f: Simplify panlord description logic. 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 92+ 96-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2d5df2f40b9a 20:45:17 incorrect name, that was their 104th demise 20:45:24 !lg . x=vlong 20:45:24 1607. [vlong=0.18-a0-1570-gf60b0ab] chequers the Spear-Bearer (L7 MfGl), blasted by a steam dragon (ball of steam) on D:4 on 2016-03-14 08:37:02, with 513 points after 3344 turns and 0:03:38. 20:45:41 !lg * vlong>0.18-a0-1305-g2d5df2f killer=pandemonium_lord 20:45:42 No games for * (vlong>0.18-a0-1305-g2d5df2f killer=pandemonium_lord). 20:45:51 !lg demise101 x=killer 20:45:51 104. [killer=Quowiss the pandemonium lord] Demise101 the Conqueror (L24 MiAs of Trog), blasted by Quowiss the pandemonium lord (iron shot) on Zot:2 on 2016-03-14 10:55:49, with 549094 points after 72531 turns and 1:55:34. 20:45:55 !lg demise101 x=ckiller 20:45:56 try ckiller 20:45:56 104. [ckiller=a pandemonium lord] Demise101 the Conqueror (L24 MiAs of Trog), blasted by Quowiss the pandemonium lord (iron shot) on Zot:2 on 2016-03-14 10:55:49, with 549094 points after 72531 turns and 1:55:34. 20:46:03 !lg * vlong>0.18-a0-1305-g2d5df2f ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord 20:46:04 19. Demise101 the Conqueror (L24 MiAs of Trog), blasted by Quowiss the pandemonium lord (iron shot) on Zot:2 on 2016-03-14 10:55:49, with 549094 points after 72531 turns and 1:55:34. 20:46:13 !lg * vlong>0.18-a0-1305-g2d5df2f ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord s=dam 20:46:13 19 games for * (vlong>0.18-a0-1305-g2d5df2f ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord): 2x 34, 3, 47, 56, 53, 58, 13, 27, 21, 54, 17, 50, 57, 51, 69, 37, 16, 41 20:46:21 !lg * vlong>0.18-a0-1305-g2d5df2f ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord s=ikiller 20:46:22 19 games for * (vlong>0.18-a0-1305-g2d5df2f ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord): Vaojigg the pandemonium lord, Boagoi the pandemonium lord, Meax the pandemonium lord, Xypuqy the pandemonium lord, Atotze the pandemonium lord, Lium the pandemonium lord, Heddosyc the pandemonium lord, Jimp the pandemonium lord, Keotuset the pandemonium lord, Zoanke the pandemonium lord, Bisaor the pandemonium lord, Feppywif ... 20:46:25 hm 20:46:29 how do you get the method of death? 20:46:31 ??listgame 20:46:32 listgame[1/5]: !lg command displays info about past games. The manual is available here: https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/docs/listgame.md 20:46:34 kaux? 20:46:36 ktyp? 20:46:41 or ckaux 20:46:49 !lg * vlong>0.18-a0-1305-g2d5df2f ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord s=kaux 20:46:50 19 games for * (vlong>0.18-a0-1305-g2d5df2f ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord): 9x, 4x great icy blast, 2x iron shot, a stone wall, great blast of fire, crystal spear, icy blast 20:46:53 !lg * ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord recent s=killer 20:46:53 333 games for * (ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord recent): Pnudipn the pandemonium lord, Zuzaivop the pandemonium lord, Ihaat the pandemonium lord, Edoaco the pandemonium lord, Womi the pandemonium lord, Pnuteiq the pandemonium lord, Xaacehy the pandemonium lord, Kixufarch the pandemonium lord, Kyletekusa the pandemonium lord, Saam the pandemonium lord, Inixobbe the pandemonium lord, Okaog the pandemoni... 20:47:07 !lg * vlong>0.18-a0-1305-g2d5df2f ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord s=ktyp 20:47:08 !lg * ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord s=killer 20:47:08 19 games for * (vlong>0.18-a0-1305-g2d5df2f ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord): 9x mon, 9x beam, collision 20:47:09 871 games for * (ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord): Joet, Priluuri the pandemonium lord, Coteups the pandemonium lord, Zuzaivop the pandemonium lord, Hohuffa the pandemonium lord, Psunoag, Bemneme, Froag, Crogo the pandemonium lord, Clisajih the pandemonium lord, Ranynnaf the pandemonium lord, Giejisma, Pnuteiq the pandemonium lord, Xaacehy the pandemonium lord, Kyletekusa the pandemonium lord, Saam the... 20:47:18 glaciate > * apparently 20:47:23 i guess no repeats, not even of plog 20:48:07 !lg * vlong>0.18-a0-1305-g2d5df2f ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord ktyp=collision 20:48:08 1. sanka the Warrior (L27 MuWn of Kikubaaqudgha), collided with a stone wall caused by Zocomimn the pandemonium lord on D:1 (lightli_arrival_quake) on 2016-03-01 08:45:35, with 627596 points after 109816 turns and 6:07:01. 20:48:16 !log * vlong>0.18-a0-1305-g2d5df2f ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord ktyp=collision 20:48:17 1. sanka, XL27 MuWn, T:109816: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/sanka/morgue-sanka-20160301-084535.txt 20:48:26 d:1 nice 20:48:37 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:48:39 holy crap 20:48:43 force lance? 20:48:44 i think sanka was on the upstairs 20:49:00 lol 20:49:08 or actually, sanka got knocked _past_ the upstairs and into the wall 20:49:11 nice, force lance 20:49:25 based on the fact that the screenshot doesn't show the & 20:49:37 !lg * vlong>0.18-a0-1305-g2d5df2f ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord ktyp=collision -tv 20:49:37 1. sanka, XL27 MuWn, T:109816 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 20:49:57 was just about to -tv that :) 20:50:15 i like the several turns of tabbing a pan lord and a reaper while getting low hit point warnings, without bothering to haste 20:50:23 haha yeah 20:50:29 hahaha that death 20:50:34 i almost feel bad 20:50:36 and if you're a stabber of kiku, you should have ddoor 20:50:47 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:50:49 i guess maybe no necronomicon 20:50:50 !gamesby sanka 20:50:50 sanka has played 7530 games, between 2009-04-23 08:06:18 and 2016-03-11 12:55:30, won 44 (0.6%), high score 10372622, total score 140005793, total turns 48120573, play-time/day 1:07:19, total time 117d+14:13:56. 20:50:58 I want to see "collided with a stone wall caused by something" if it's possible 20:51:01 well disto qblade implies necrobook 20:51:09 oh yeah 20:51:24 59926 | Vaults:3 | Identified a +5 quick blade of pain (a +3 quick blade bloodied by Kikubaaqudgha) 20:51:36 !cmd !cheqpanlord !lg * vlong>0.18-a0-1305-g2d5df2f ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord 20:51:37 Defined command: !cheqpanlord => !lg * vlong>0.18-a0-1305-g2d5df2f ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord 20:51:39 decided to use disto instead(???) 20:51:43 !cheqpanlord 20:51:44 19. Demise101 the Conqueror (L24 MiAs of Trog), blasted by Quowiss the pandemonium lord (iron shot) on Zot:2 on 2016-03-14 10:55:49, with 549094 points after 72531 turns and 1:55:34. 20:51:48 well disto makes way more sense for the orb run 20:51:54 yes 20:52:02 i guess we don't know how long it was wielded 20:52:19 !cheqpanlord max=dam x=dam 20:52:20 19. [dam=69] TheOrbIsALie the Sorcerer (L27 DsWz of Sif Muna), blasted by Boagoi the pandemonium lord (iron shot) in Pandemonium (rand_demon_1) on 2016-02-18 10:06:48, with 877419 points after 104800 turns and 9:05:42. 20:52:36 !cheqpanlord kaux~~crystal x=dam 20:52:37 1. [dam=47] rauk2000 the Executioner (L27 DsBe of Gozag), blasted by Reskujei the pandemonium lord (crystal spear) on Zig:19 on 2016-03-08 01:07:20, with 724563 points after 60115 turns and 2:48:53. 20:52:44 what does "very quick" mean in that @ list? Swift? 20:52:44 !tell dpeg !lg sanka d:1 ktyp=collision 1 -- a game for the book? the player was within sight of the exit, the panlord force lanced them over the exit into a wall, killing them 20:52:44 wheals: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 20:52:48 !lg sanka d:1 ktyp=collision 1 20:52:49 1. sanka the Warrior (L27 MuWn of Kikubaaqudgha), collided with a stone wall caused by Zocomimn the pandemonium lord on D:1 (lightli_arrival_quake) on 2016-03-01 08:45:35, with 627596 points after 109816 turns and 6:07:01. 20:52:51 or does haste just always look that way? 20:53:07 wheals: maybe tell blade too, for his great moments in crawl thing 20:53:10 !lg * d:1 ckiller=pandemonium_lord 20:53:10 14. sanka the Warrior (L27 MuWn of Kikubaaqudgha), collided with a stone wall caused by Zocomimn the pandemonium lord on D:1 (lightli_arrival_quake) on 2016-03-01 08:45:35, with 627596 points after 109816 turns and 6:07:01. 20:53:12 !lg * d:1 ckiller=pandemonium_lord -2 20:53:13 13/14. BLOAX the Slayer (L24 MiFi of Cheibriados), slain by Zoanke the pandemonium lord on D:1 on 2016-02-24 19:38:17, with 538135 points after 27507 turns and 0:50:39. 20:53:14 if they're considering a little set of cignettes 20:53:22 *vingettes 20:53:38 cignettes are very small, disconnected cigarettes 20:53:54 !cmd !d1panlordtv !tv * d:1 ckiller=pandemonium_lord $* 20:53:55 Defined command: !d1panlordtv => !tv * d:1 ckiller=pandemonium_lord $* 20:53:57 !lg * current kaux~~crystal ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord x=avg(dam) 20:53:58 5 games for * (current kaux~~crystal ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord): avg(dam)=57.6 20:54:03 !d1panlordtv -2 20:54:04 13/14. BLOAX, XL24 MiFi, T:27507 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 20:54:04 !lg * current kaux~~iron_shot ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord x=avg(dam) 20:54:05 3 games for * (current kaux~~iron_shot ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord): avg(dam)=67.67 20:54:09 -!- AnFair has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:54:11 that seems weird 20:54:14 lcs < iron shot 20:54:33 !d1panlordtv -3 20:54:34 12/14. Amaril, XL26 DgFi, T:93613 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 20:55:29 !d1panlordtv -4 20:55:30 11/14. jimcrow, XL27 MiAK, T:102172 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 20:56:50 !d1panlordtv -5 20:56:51 10/14. casual, XL27 HONe, T:129297 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 20:57:07 guest appearance by agra 20:57:18 you miscast tornado???? 20:57:22 in a 1-wide corridor? 20:57:55 ahahaha 20:57:56 killed by Sony 20:58:37 so about iron shot vs crystal spear... I'm thinking of bumping up monster lcs damage and then possibly giving some lcs-monsters iron shot instead 20:58:37 a fight to the death with a pan lord, gets knocked down to 3 hp but the pan lord is almost dead, will he survive? yes! he kills the pan lord...and another one shows up and hellfires him 20:58:46 lol 20:59:02 -!- Elitist has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:00:54 #crawlcode submission: return random_choose(SPELL_LEHUDIBS_CRYSTAL_SPEAR); 21:01:06 ... 21:01:11 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:19 I bet that's mine <.< 21:01:32 actually I bet someone else modified it after 21:01:34 that kind of thing just happens organically when people aren't super observant about code they're editing 21:02:56 ha I'm right on both counts 21:03:17 wait 21:03:20 how did you find it so quickly 21:03:23 i'm still reading the git blame manpage 21:03:30 because I knew there's only one part in the code that has a line like that :b 21:04:04 yeah I wrote the original line of code 21:04:09 %git 98df2439 21:04:09 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0-2646-g98df243: Vehumet wrath: employ actual conjurations, not just miscasts. 10(2 years, 1 month ago, 5 files, 132+ 21-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/98df243970cc 21:04:25 subsequently cleaned up first by PleasingFungus then |amethyst 21:04:37 :) 21:07:02 -!- neuralroberts has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:07:03 so iron shot has this monster damage: new dicedef_calculator<3, 8, 1, 9>, 21:07:09 and lcs has new dicedef_calculator<3, 16, 1, 10>, 21:07:18 ?/dicedef 21:07:18 Matching entries (1): beam_damage[1]: calcdice_calculator means (B + pow * C / D) damage divided among A identical dice. Die size is rounded up/down at random, weighted by remainder. dicedef_calculator means (A)d(B + pow * C / D) damage. dice_def(A, B) simply means AdB. 21:08:07 i guess it's the 9 v 10 which is making lcs weaker 21:08:11 so ishot does more damage if pow/9 + 8 > pow/10 21:08:13 -!- genericpseudonym has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:08:17 er 21:08:29 pow/9 > pow/10 + 8 21:09:54 simplifying, 10pow > 9pow + 720 pow > 720 ? 21:10:02 -!- bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:10:04 that seems unlikely to be true 21:10:06 yeah 21:10:13 so why is pan lord iron shot kill damage higher than lcs damage 21:10:31 chequers: variance 21:10:38 that's way too small a sample size to be sure about 21:10:42 !lg * ckiller=pandemonium_lord ckaux=iron_shot max=dam x=dam 21:10:43 13. [dam=92] platinum the Evocator (L26 DDBe of Trog), blasted by Icaycsodgh the pandemonium lord (iron shot) on D:1 (zaba_arrival_water) on 2015-03-18 03:46:00, with 619491 points after 51672 turns and 3:27:33. 21:10:48 !lg * ckiller=pandemonium_lord ckaux=lehudib's_crystal_spear max=dam x=dam 21:10:48 No games for * (ckiller=pandemonium_lord ckaux=lehudib's_crystal_spear). 21:10:55 !lg * ckiller=pandemonium_lord ckaux=crystal_spear max=dam x=dam 21:10:56 23. [dam=121] bmoore the Merfolkian Porcupine (L27 MfCr of Nemelex Xobeh), blasted by Kipamn (crystal spear) in Pandemonium on 2009-09-10 20:30:07, with 622349 points after 144460 turns and 11:54:07. 21:11:05 Icaycsodgh sounds like it was trying to say icosahedron and just gave up in the middle 21:11:13 !lg * recent ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord ckaux=iron_shot s=dam -graph:area 21:11:14 7 games for * (recent ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord ckaux=iron_shot): https://shalott.org/graphs/6e1cd2d756d4819b57dbde69a9d1346cd37cc8c4.html 21:11:22 !lg * recent ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord ckaux~~crystal_spear s=dam -graph:area 21:11:23 8 games for * (recent ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord ckaux~~crystal_spear): https://shalott.org/graphs/7814e05eb6a8418633177a572f4f8e6f37adf339.html 21:11:38 !lg * recent ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord ckaux~~crystal_spear s=dam -graph 21:11:39 8 games for * (recent ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord ckaux~~crystal_spear): https://shalott.org/graphs/3c8aec05b5ec71fc820606b76baeaebeea2d05bd.html 21:11:47 !lg * recent ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord ckaux=iron_shot s=dam -graph 21:11:48 7 games for * (recent ckiller=a_pandemonium_lord ckaux=iron_shot): https://shalott.org/graphs/102abe538624603d30fa5ec01a92eed8f94ef0ec.html 21:12:31 might be variance but that distribution is quite different 21:12:39 how do you specify a monster with a single frequency 200 spell? 21:12:55 @??goblin spell=iron_shot 21:12:55 unknown monster: "goblin spell=iron_shot" 21:13:01 ??%?? 21:13:01 monsters[1/4]: The most up-to-date code for @?? can be found at https://github.com/crawl/monster/ : branch 'master' for trunk, 'dcss016' for 0.16, and likewise back to 'dcss09'. 21:13:09 @??rat spells:iron_shot.200.wizard 21:13:09 rat (07r) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 2-3 | AC/EV: 1/10 | Dam: 3 | spellcaster | XP: 1 | Sp: iron shot (3d9) | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 21:13:09 <|amethyst> @??orb of fire spell:iron_shot.200.wizard 21:13:09 unknown monster: "orb of fire spell:iron_shot.200.wizard" 21:13:11 ta 21:13:18 <|amethyst> @??orb of fire spells:iron_shot.200.wizard 21:13:18 orb of fire (05*) | Spd: 15 | HD: 30 | HP: 120-178 | AC/EV: 20/20 | 11non-living, spellcaster, see invisible, fly, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 04fire+++, 02cold, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | XP: 8569 | Sp: iron shot (3d48) | Sz: little | Int: human. 21:13:27 <|amethyst> @??orb of fire spells:lehudib's_crystal_spear.200.wizard 21:13:27 orb of fire (05*) | Spd: 15 | HD: 30 | HP: 120-178 | AC/EV: 20/20 | 11non-living, spellcaster, see invisible, fly, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 04fire+++, 02cold, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | XP: 8569 | Sp: crystal spear (3d52) | Sz: little | Int: human. 21:14:16 <|amethyst> @??pandemonium lord 21:14:16 pandemonium lord (09&) | Spd: 10-18 | HD: 22 | HP: 113-324 | AC/EV: 17/18 | Dam: 39 | 05demonic, 10doors, fighter, unholy, see invisible | Res: 06magic(146), 05fire, 12cold+++, 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 6850 | Sp: (random) | Sz: Large | Int: human. 21:14:25 <|amethyst> @??pandemonium lord spells:lehudib's_crystal_spear.200.wizard 21:14:25 pandemonium lord (09&) | Spd: 10-18 | HD: 21 | HP: 111-345 | AC/EV: 18/18 | Dam: 44 | 05demonic, 10doors, fighter, unholy, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(140), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 7156 | Sp: (random) | Sz: Large | Int: human. 21:14:31 <|amethyst> @??pandemonium lord spells:iron_shot.200.wizard 21:14:31 pandemonium lord (09&) | Spd: 10-18 | HD: 21 | HP: 111-345 | AC/EV: 18/18 | Dam: 44 | 05demonic, 10doors, fighter, unholy, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(140), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 7156 | Sp: (random) | Sz: Large | Int: human. 21:14:38 <|amethyst> oh right 21:14:40 -!- jetnerd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:15:50 -!- Floodkiller has joined ##crawl-dev 21:16:00 how do i set hd? 21:16:05 <|amethyst> hd:22 21:16:12 ta 21:18:45 -!- gluten has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:19:58 lcs and iron shot damage is pretty much identical (ignoring accuracy) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PZ9R2rSxN5Le44L3pDcNXB14n1CUaE9C0yt9NVN4xYM/pubchart?oid=1695899674&format=interactive 21:20:57 i wonder how else you could differentiate these two things for monsters without just separating the damage rolls 21:22:00 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:22:23 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest80254 21:23:10 -!- bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:24:06 -!- cang has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:26:31 -!- Guest80254 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:31:11 -!- Boyo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:32:04 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:32:29 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:32:40 chequers: it seems possible that range and accuracy are sufficient differentiators 21:32:40 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 21:33:06 i mean, that's not too far off rom the situation for the player version of the spells, iirc? 21:33:17 for whatever that's worth 21:33:35 !tell grunt our +3 warlock's mirror {reflect} reflects the !tell! 21:33:35 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let grunt know. 21:33:36 <|amethyst> the player spells are further apart in damage 21:34:34 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:34:43 <|amethyst> player LCS max damage is 23 + pow, player iron shot 15 + 3*pow/4 21:40:18 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:41:05 -!- starbutterfly has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:41:31 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 21:42:02 <|amethyst> chequers: here's an ASCII histogram of 2000 rolls: https://gist.github.com/neilmoore/870d841feadfabbbd918 21:42:39 <|amethyst> chequers: LCS @25hd (3d46) is on the left, Iron Shot @25hd (3d41) on the right 21:43:09 that's fantastic, but why not anydice? 21:43:09 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 21:43:24 Grunt: lmao 21:43:39 <|amethyst> not anydice because I have Perl 21:43:48 <|amethyst> :P 21:43:50 hi PleasingFungus... 21:43:50 is there anything better than ascii histograms? 21:44:04 <|amethyst> code's at the top, but you will just have to imagine the contents of the "roll" function 21:45:07 -!- jetnerd has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:46:30 :) 21:48:15 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:48:33 PleasingFungus: but those two differentiators are worse for lcs 21:48:37 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:49:30 hm 21:49:39 is this one of those things where it turns out i've forgotten everything i knew about crawl 21:50:06 er 21:50:30 |amethyst: that's pretty neat ascii btw 21:50:32 no, it is not 21:50:38 -!- bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:50:38 lcs's accuracy is higher 21:52:07 oops, you're right 21:52:44 the format is a little potentially confusing :) 21:52:50 I only remembered because I used it recently 21:54:35 i wonder if players bother to learn lcs 21:54:44 uhh 21:54:48 yes 21:54:54 ^ 21:55:05 i bet logicninja does 21:55:10 <3 21:55:50 i mean, there are spells I'm not totally sure anyone uses 21:55:51 like leda's 21:55:57 but lcs is not in that category 21:56:44 I don't even know what Leda's does 21:57:03 I think it's a really bad slow? 21:57:46 ??ledas 21:57:47 leda's liquefaction[1/2]: Level 4 earth/hexes spell, found in the book of the Earth. Generates a halo of "liquefied" ground around the caster. Moving on liquefied ground has a -3 player movement malus. Applies slow movement effect to monsters. Doesn't affect flying, clinging, insubstantials; cannot be cast by these. 21:58:05 i think it's secret am tech 21:58:17 it's like, mass slow, sort of 21:58:33 sort of. 21:59:41 it's a mass slow that is meaningless against things that do get next to you 21:59:43 'create shallow water all around you, except you can't swim in it, and also you can't cast it while flying or fly while casting (something like that), and it shrinks like silence so you end up the only one affected' 21:59:45 well, no 21:59:51 causes them to fumble melee attacks 21:59:57 since it's shallow-ater-like, iirc 21:59:58 looks like lcs is cast at about a quarter of the frequency that iron shot is 22:00:09 it also causes you to fumble melee attacks, unless you're an ogre/troll/naga 22:00:32 <|amethyst> is cast by? 22:00:37 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:00:39 wheals: logicninja learns firestorm, not lcs 22:00:42 by players, I mean 22:00:52 (based on all CPO morgues) 22:01:05 is that out of winning games? 22:01:07 hey, once you start learning annihil spells 22:01:12 no, all games 22:01:12 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:01:16 PF: leda also doesn't affect flying enemies 22:01:20 CanOfWorms: ya 22:01:21 chequers: I that might be because iron shot is level 6 22:01:24 while LCS is level 8 22:01:31 totally 22:01:43 but it's defintiely bothered to be learnt 22:01:58 it's all the benefits of surrounding yourself with water nymph aura, and some additional downsides 22:02:04 -!- Floodkiller has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:02:29 well, it does have the subtle property that enemies actually move more slowly than the player through the liquified grounnd 22:02:33 unless that was changed 22:02:34 chequers: can you compile a top/bottom ten? 22:02:39 PleasingFungus: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sRcsNzSWMyj8rGPRhydpEMXKeNqi79maBpbP9ojt5Us/edit#gid=1713170391 22:02:53 so some kind of weird swiftness esque effect 22:03:16 -!- feksclaus has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 22:03:18 ahh, this is cast, not learn 22:03:31 wow, not a lot of summoners on c3po 22:03:38 2x sgd, 3x dcall, 3x haunt 22:03:55 and this goes far enough back that twisted resurrection's in there 22:04:20 this is a # of games? 22:04:30 every morgue, which will include experimentals and such 22:04:33 also the fact that LCS is only range 4 22:04:34 117 Learned a level 6 spell: Iron Shot 22:04:34 36 Learned a level 8 spell: Lehudib's Crystal Spear 22:04:34 <|amethyst> 2 casts of alistairs 22:04:52 ??alistairs 22:04:53 alistair's intoxication[1/1]: L4 Transmutation-Poison spell. Has a (40 + power/3)% (max 73%) chance of confusing each natural, non-poison resistant monster in line of sight with greater than animal intelligence. Has a (60 - power/3)% chance of affecting you, even with rPois, if you do not have a source of clarity. Also drains 1-3 points of intelligence 5% of the time. 22:05:11 PleasingFungus: about 30k games 22:05:32 nice, one in six games never perform a single melee attack 22:05:34 half never eat 22:05:49 god bless d:1. 22:05:50 this reminds me to ask |amethyst for a tarxz of morgues from any servers he has access to, so I can broaden the data :) 22:06:13 haha, 3 people using dual wielding 22:06:24 hrm 22:06:28 what was that from again 22:06:29 evoke-phial of floods(inert) 22:06:33 I really wonder what's going on there 22:06:44 current bug, old bug? 22:06:54 ??gyre 22:06:54 gyre and gimble[1/1]: A pair of +5 vorpal {quick blade}s. Essentially gives you a double-attack every time you swing them. Takes both of your hands to wield, of course! 22:07:02 ofc 22:07:35 6 games using zigfigs 22:07:39 that's... surprisingly low? 22:08:01 cpo has few good >3 runers 22:08:21 truly, australia is a benighted place. 22:08:31 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 22:09:00 the player population skews newer and less successful, quite noticeably 22:11:10 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:11:25 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:14:13 anyway, if i get morgues from a few servers i was thinking of putting all this data into hadoop so it can be analysed a bit more like !lg 22:14:34 eg 'do people who learnt iron shot and lcs stop using iron shot after learning lcs' 22:14:44 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:15:07 ! 22:16:05 -!- sorlin has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:17:16 -!- sorlin1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:21:55 -!- sorlin1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:23:05 -!- sorlin has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:26:06 -!- sorlin2 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:28:40 -!- bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:30:04 -!- SirLIcksAlot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:30:27 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 22:32:16 -!- Bcadren_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:32:24 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 22:33:06 hmm 22:33:13 any reason why a purple ugly thing would be immune to corona? 22:36:38 -!- G-Flex| has quit [Quit: Time for us to bug out.] 22:40:17 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 22:41:45 dang, gell's works well with inner flame 22:44:12 all ugly things are immune 22:44:49 hah 22:45:18 casting with z says 'nothing is in view' but if you cast with Z you can manually target them 22:45:53 hm 22:46:02 probably i broke mon-info ghost magic immunity 22:46:08 *ghost-demon 22:46:10 Your Spells Power Range Hunger Level 22:46:13 a + Corona 0 (90) @------> 50 1 22:46:15 why are ugly things immune to corona to begin with, though? 22:46:18 pan lords are the same thing, so possibly 22:46:27 why does this show the power as 0 (90) in wizmode? 22:47:20 i can't actually affext ugly things with corona at all 22:48:10 oh.... ugly things come with innate corona now heh 22:48:24 it has no corona status, but in x-v "It is outlined in light." 22:49:39 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest98517 22:49:53 oh 22:49:54 odd 22:51:11 -!- eb_ has quit [] 22:53:25 -!- Guest98517 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:53:34 -!- TacoSundae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:54:33 -!- Bcadren_ is now known as bcadren 22:55:32 makes sense, glowing with mutagenic radiation 22:56:57 good point 22:58:57 random thought 22:59:02 what does beogh have over yred 23:01:11 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:01:19 yred doesn't grant walking on water :) 23:01:29 also doesn't give a chance of random enemy undead becoming friendly 23:02:40 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:02:55 also you get smite 23:02:56 a smite that works on rN stuff 23:03:12 (arguably drain life is a better smite for stuff without rN) 23:03:22 -!- Mandevil has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:05:23 -!- bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:05:52 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:10:57 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:13:04 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:14:02 -!- bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:18:20 -!- flappity has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:22:10 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 23:22:36 -!- ontoclasm has left ##crawl-dev 23:23:16 -!- Blade-- has joined ##crawl-dev 23:23:36 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 23:24:13 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:24:41 -!- Blade- has quit [Quit: Blade-] 23:24:45 -!- Blade-- is now known as Blade- 23:25:32 -!- bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:29:45 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 23:32:21 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:33:44 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 23:35:48 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 23:36:30 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 23:39:00 -!- st_ has quit [] 23:39:30 -!- jspengler has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:46:38 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:47:44 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:49:34 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:51:55 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: Reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold, BYE] 23:57:02 -!- giann has joined ##crawl-dev 23:57:31 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 23:57:56 PleasingFungus: it seems the abyss doesn't generate exits on abyss:5 based on 23:57:59 onster xp 23:58:01 -!- argent0 has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:58:13 or perhaps it is that only one exit is generated, and if you miss it bad luck