00:00:05 <|amethyst> I remember once, when I was somewhere around 8 years old 00:00:36 <|amethyst> my parents, upright totally-not-white-trash that they were at the time, took me with them to the liquor store 00:00:51 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:57 <|amethyst> there I saw, among many other wondrous things, a bottle of some kind of cocktail mix 00:01:13 pleasingfungus: late d howler monkey packs = good 00:01:18 <|amethyst> I was convinced it was bird food of some kind 00:01:29 <|amethyst> since we had a cockatiel 00:04:10 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:05:09 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1539-g1c7284a (34) 00:08:06 -!- kaiza has quit [Quit: o7] 00:10:02 -!- Guest48236 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:14:52 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:20:25 <|amethyst> !source _valid_morph 00:20:25 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-poly.cc#l101 00:20:35 <|amethyst> %git 00:20:35 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-1539-g1c7284a: Try to reduce monster flip-flopping further 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1c7284ab8732 00:22:54 |amethyst: I forgot that involved a string comparison, now I hate it even more 00:23:12 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 00:23:51 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:24:14 <|amethyst> at this point we have props[ORIGINAL_TYPE_KEY] so the string comparison could be avoided 00:24:22 <|amethyst> oh wait 00:24:43 <|amethyst> no, because Ribbit's corpse reversion is implemented using ORIGINAL_TYPE_KEY 00:26:12 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:27:54 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:28:16 -!- Evablue_ has quit [Quit: Evablue_] 00:29:48 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:29:52 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:31:42 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:33:43 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:34:26 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:35:14 <|amethyst> (I think this also means that Ribbit fails mons_is_or_was_unique ?) 00:38:46 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 00:41:15 -!- allbefore has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:44:06 chequers: :) 00:44:40 * PleasingFungus hoots and howls with incredible vigour! 00:44:56 hm, what's with these tukima ctd reports 00:45:25 <|amethyst> my guess would be something related to the tiles changes? 00:45:39 I concur 00:46:00 not trivially reproducible 00:46:06 also 00:46:19 "crash to desktop" - are people running the very latest trunk as a local build? 00:46:43 <|amethyst> http://crawl.develz.org/trunk/ does exist 00:46:45 -!- allbefore has quit [Client Quit] 00:47:06 <|amethyst> #10316 is Windoes Tiles 0.18-a0-1522 00:47:47 %git 2057906ad90d3e0d1983f3eea34e410af36f12d4 00:47:47 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-1524-g2057906: Revert "Dataify weapon/shield tile offsets" 10(33 hours ago, 4 files, 1354+ 786-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2057906ad90d 00:47:54 two commits later 00:47:59 -!- giann has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 00:48:21 can we poke whatever builds local tiles? 00:49:11 <|amethyst> running now 00:50:17 |amethyst: IMO remove all the special handling and make prince ribbit a human altogether, and change his description to say the curse only lasted 15 years, but now he's REALLY mad and is going to take out his anger on the most witch-like thing he sees, which is the player 00:51:42 -!- giann has joined ##crawl-dev 00:53:08 // There's room here to have different types of webs (acid? fire? ice? different strengths?)* 00:53:11 good comment 00:54:15 I'm finding it very difficult to wrap my head around the logistics of a fire web 00:55:17 imo 00:55:20 it's a web 00:55:22 that someone set on fire 00:55:53 -!- Bajowa has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:56:03 that comment dates back to the very first web trap commit 00:56:05 neat 00:57:22 someday i'm gonna implement mucus slugs 00:57:25 and then you'll all be sorry 00:58:05 !send PleasingFungus torpor snails 00:58:05 Sending torpor snails to PleasingFungus. 00:58:12 they're friends 00:58:13 this reminds me 00:58:15 oh 00:58:19 this also reminds me of something 00:58:21 you go first 00:58:23 !learn add PleasingFungus a man, a plan, torpor snails, DCSS 00:58:23 pleasingfungus[28/28]: a man, a plan, torpor snails, DCSS 00:58:27 hm 00:58:29 time to trim 00:58:30 drat, now I need to find one to remove >.> 00:59:15 !learn del pleasingfungus[19] 00:59:15 Deleted pleasingfungus[19/28]: I live to spite 00:59:30 i was thinking of the one that's now [23 00:59:30 -!- roadmap is now known as sneakyness 00:59:43 oh, I didn't actually look through them, I just picked one at random 00:59:45 hehe 00:59:54 !learn s pleasingfungus[23 I live to spite 00:59:54 pleasingfungus[23/27]: I live to spite 01:00:00 !learn set pleasingfungus[23] I live to spite 01:00:01 pleasingfungus[23/27]: I live to spite 01:00:01 oh 01:00:04 Grunt: hi... 01:00:06 hi 01:00:19 not as quick on the draw as I used to be >.> 01:00:22 -!- Rust3dCor3 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:00:27 you're getting old, old man! 01:00:39 * Grunt shakes his cane at PleasingFungus. 01:00:52 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:12 !learn edit pleasingfungus s/snails, DCSS/snails: dcss/ 01:01:12 Use: !learn edit pleasingfungus[NUM] s/// 01:01:16 !learn edit pleasingfungus[27] s/snails, DCSS/snails: dcss/ 01:01:16 pleasingfungus[27/27]: a man, a plan, torpor snails: dcss 01:01:20 got the quote slighitly wrong anyway >.> 01:01:30 wow, did I actually say that 01:01:46 ^ arguably another good entry 01:01:49 20151210 01:01:55 http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ 01:02:05 -!- West1C has quit [] 01:02:11 22:40:42 FR a !torpor command that doesn't do anything until 15 seconds later 01:02:14 this is a good fr 01:02:16 :) 01:02:26 !torpor Grunt 01:02:45 Being near the PleasingFungus leaves Grunt feeling lethargic. 01:03:20 :) 01:03:20 anyway what were you about to chime in about before this sideshow 01:03:23 >.> 01:03:25 two things 01:03:39 (1) do you know anything about how/where dungeon feature tile variants are stored 01:03:43 ah 01:03:58 that's kind of multilayered - what do you want to know specifically? 01:03:58 xom's vitrify doesn't override them 01:04:05 so you end up with visibly opaque walls being transparent 01:04:05 ah 01:04:26 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1539-g1c7284a (34) 01:04:39 <|amethyst> env.tile_* 01:04:47 <|amethyst> not sure which is relevant here though 01:04:59 env.tile_flv, maybe...? 01:05:01 <|amethyst> !source crawl_environment 01:05:01 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/env.h#l22 01:05:08 <|amethyst> possibly, or tile_fg maybe? 01:05:10 <|amethyst> no clue 01:05:29 hm 01:05:32 i'll experiment 01:05:37 the other question was 01:05:44 giving mesmerise to obsidian statues 01:07:44 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:08:00 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:09:35 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:14:17 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1539-g1c7284a 01:16:13 with 200 spell freq right?? 01:19:01 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1539-g1c7284a (34) 01:22:50 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 01:25:27 !learn set pleasingfungus[23] I live to spite 01:25:27 pleasingfungus[23/27]: I live to spite 01:25:37 sorry it took so long, there was a torpor snail 01:26:57 how come statues have their own polymorph immunity but immobile plants don't? 01:27:09 obviously they're immune already because of being nonliving but 01:28:20 -!- giann has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:29:09 why are dancing weapons so elementally immune 01:29:56 <|amethyst> same reason golems are 01:31:09 "nonliving" means "everything immune" 01:31:13 or sometimes "gargoyle" 01:31:58 <|amethyst> nonliving can mean "eldritch" now too 01:42:03 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 01:43:11 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:45:21 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 01:49:15 -!- FireSight has quit [] 01:49:33 -!- sorlin has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:49:36 -!- Blade-_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:49:49 how did the superpak bug know how high to charge various weapons and armour? 01:49:58 is there an easy way to see its values for each weapon? 01:50:32 it's just a constant associated with the item 01:50:45 -!- 32NAAI0HW has quit [Quit: 32NAAI0HW] 01:51:03 do worse items have higher constants overall? for example, what would a rapier look like vs a dagger? 01:51:25 -!- Blade- has joined ##crawl-dev 01:51:45 let's see 01:53:02 ah 01:53:07 what happens is 01:53:24 the game tries to set the charge (which is enchant for weapons/armour) to 9*max wand charge 01:53:34 the function that calculates max wand charge returns 8 by default 01:53:42 er, 9*max charge/2 01:53:50 which is why you see +36 weapons 01:54:09 why +72 clubs, then? 01:54:45 <|amethyst> WPN_DAGGER == WAND_INVISIBILITY_REMOVED, WPN_RAPIER == WAND_TELEPORTATION, WPN_CLUB = WAND_FLAME, WPN_GREAT_MACE = WAND_CONFUSION 01:54:53 <|amethyst> s/ = / == /g 01:55:09 <|amethyst> it interpreted the weapon type as though it were a wand type 01:55:14 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:55:21 oh, that's fascinating. so it's more or less random? 01:55:24 there we go 01:55:25 no 01:55:25 <|amethyst> yeah 01:55:30 it's fixed per item type :v 01:55:32 <|amethyst> I mean, it's fixed 01:55:33 -!- Blade-_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:55:40 <|amethyst> but what it's fixed to is more or less random 01:55:41 it's "arbitrary" 01:55:41 <|amethyst> gone 01:55:50 what is a short sword, and what is a whip? also, is there a place in the code I can just see this? 01:55:57 enum 01:56:14 <|amethyst> easiest way to find out IMO is build crawl with debugging 01:56:24 <|amethyst> then in gdb ./crawl you can do 01:56:30 <|amethyst> p (wand_type)WPN_GREAT_MACE 01:56:36 <|amethyst> or in the other direction 01:56:46 <|amethyst> p (weapon_type)WAND_RANDOM_EFFECTS 01:57:00 <|amethyst> or, you can count enum positions yourself 01:57:03 <|amethyst> !source wand_type 01:57:03 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/itemprop-enum.h#l659 01:57:06 <|amethyst> !source weapon_type 01:57:06 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/itemprop-enum.h#l506 01:57:09 cheers 01:57:49 <|amethyst> I'm wondering what other things might be exploitable there besides armour and weapons 01:58:08 rings? 01:58:11 yes, rings 01:58:12 <|amethyst> yeah 01:58:18 how much ev would a ring of EV get? 01:58:26 I heard protection was 36 01:58:35 <|amethyst> you could probably screw up a manual real good 01:58:42 <|amethyst> since you'd be setting its skill to 36 01:59:05 would supercharging a pile of ammo work? 01:59:11 <|amethyst> not usefully 01:59:13 -!- Shinino has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:59:16 <|amethyst> since ammo doesn't have plusses 01:59:32 oh man 01:59:36 a supercharged blowgun... 01:59:53 so since there are more weapons than wands, would some weapons fail to supercharge? 02:00:11 no 02:00:18 does it loop back around? 02:00:20 <|amethyst> they'd be caught by the default: return 8; in wand_charge_value 02:00:21 8 is the default value returned 02:00:23 oh 02:00:38 so they'd charge to 36 by default. 02:00:51 <|amethyst> yeah, as CanOfWorms said earlier 02:00:52 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:56 right. 02:01:23 i guess we missed the opportunity to use it on a pie tomahawk 02:01:36 <|amethyst> hm 02:02:00 While I'm here, does anyone know how to fix a Crawl game displaying like this:http://imgur.com/a/GQ9e1 ? 02:02:02 <|amethyst> none of the jewellery that would get +72 actually has plusses 02:03:02 what happened if you used it on a hide? 02:03:05 <|amethyst> Blade-: what does echo $TERM in your terminal say? 02:03:25 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:03:28 rxvt-unicode 02:03:34 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:03:53 <|amethyst> is your terminal actually rxvt? 02:04:00 <|amethyst> the menu looks like gnome-terminal 02:04:11 it's gnome-terminal, yes 02:04:22 <|amethyst> that's a bad TERM to use then 02:04:26 <|amethyst> not sure what's setting it to that 02:04:34 <|amethyst> try export TERM=gnome-256color 02:04:44 -!- allbefore has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:04:51 <|amethyst> or xterm-256color if your terminfo doesn't have that one 02:05:02 <|amethyst> the "-256color" doesn't actually matter for crawl 02:05:15 <|amethyst> but will make vim etc nicer 02:05:15 hey, it worked! sweet 02:05:27 <|amethyst> now to find out what's setting it to rxvt-unicode 02:05:48 thank you. I think it was another game I installed and one of the commands I typed in along the way 02:07:53 -!- vfoley has joined ##crawl-dev 02:09:06 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 02:12:04 <|amethyst> minmay: you'd have a +36 (probably, don't feel like checking all the enums) hide that would display as +36 02:12:08 <|amethyst> %git 8b25d414 02:12:08 07|amethyst02 * 0.14-a0-2416-g8b25d41: Do show enchantment for hides that aren't +0 (Implojin) 10(2 years, 1 month ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8b25d4142020 02:12:40 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:12:57 <|amethyst> (the fix was for corrosion, but I figured == 0 was easier to type than >= 0) 02:13:29 <|amethyst> err 02:13:46 <|amethyst> ah, no, that's right 02:14:17 <|amethyst> stupid logic not in disjunctive normal form 02:16:58 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:20:08 next question: what would happen if you tried to supercharge an artefact? 02:20:40 <|amethyst> that's what happened 02:20:42 <|amethyst> https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=19378 02:20:57 <|amethyst> +36 randart scimitar of speed 02:21:35 <|amethyst> there might be some unrands that break it 02:22:15 like if I used it on the vampire's tooth...? 02:22:17 <|amethyst> e.g. sword of power would change back to +whatever next turn 02:22:34 oh, so it would work normally on most unrands? 02:22:37 <|amethyst> hm 02:22:39 <|amethyst> probably 02:22:44 <|amethyst> but 02:22:55 <|amethyst> I think it might not last across save and restore 02:23:08 <|amethyst> ISTR there's something that resets unrand stats on restore 02:25:26 <|amethyst> yeah, unrands get reset on load 02:25:40 <|amethyst> so you'd have to carry it around and never save 02:27:50 <|amethyst> if you leave and return to the floor that it's on, or even look at another level while it's not in your inventory, that also counts a save and restore 02:28:39 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:29:06 <|amethyst> carrying it in inventory should be fine until you actually load a save though 02:30:55 interesting. the things you learn with bugs 02:32:05 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:33:08 -!- Svalin has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:43:07 -!- Blade- has left ##crawl-dev 02:45:12 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:51:52 abyss-kills playtesting report: way too easy to spawn an exit at xl 21 02:52:18 scaling definitely needs work 02:53:41 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1539-g1c7284a 02:54:06 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest71467 03:00:04 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:00:27 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest89724 03:00:52 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:03:21 -!- Blade- has quit [Quit: Blade-] 03:05:31 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 03:05:49 -!- Guest89724 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:06:02 hey guys there are still a few servers where pakellas bug is still active 03:06:05 (need to be rebuilt) 03:06:19 -!- eb_ has quit [] 03:06:25 main ones are the korean server and CBRO Xperimental 03:06:47 there might be more, idk 03:07:43 -!- Guest71467 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:07:56 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:10:08 Rast: are the experimentals really worth worrying about 03:10:19 do they "count"? 03:10:35 !lm rast 03:10:36 16174. [2016-03-09 08:08:22] Rast the Acrobat (L22 SpAE of Okawaru) entered the Shoals on turn 68221. (Lair:6) 03:10:41 possibly so 03:10:52 S - the +72 robe of Wesimype (worn) {*Drain Slay+5 SInv Stlth+} 03:14:46 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1539-g1c7284a (34) 03:15:27 -!- Idolo has quit [] 03:21:35 -!- Hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:21:54 It isn't exactly wise to score trunk games (or at least, mix their scores with those from releases) precisely because this sort of thing can and will happen during development 03:22:17 It also deemphasizes releases significantly 03:23:17 is it a goal to emphasize releases? 03:23:35 Why bother with them at all otherwise? 03:24:09 to give people stable versions of the game? 03:24:14 if nothing else it's a good excuse to occasionally have versions where we emphasize non-bugginess 03:24:17 ^ 03:24:33 feature-sets that we've spent significant effort on de-buggifying 03:24:36 before we go on to add more bugs 03:26:29 it's also a good incentive for lapsed players to come back and try out the new stuff 03:27:22 -!- read has quit [Quit: bye.] 03:27:54 -!- DaneiTHREE has quit [Quit: Those who tell the truth shall die, those who tell the truth shall live forever.] 03:33:48 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0.2/20160210153822]] 03:39:41 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 03:40:55 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:42:17 -!- West1C_iOS has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:42:34 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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== 34 10:17:53 does it refers to the version of the game ? 10:21:11 save file format version 10:21:25 34 is the current save format 10:21:40 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:21:40 oh ok 10:22:06 and putting something in that is an indication that the code should be removed the next time we break save compatibility 10:22:33 (the current save format has a *lot* of code for upgrading older games) 10:30:10 -!- SurpriseTRex_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:31:48 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:34:19 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:34:25 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:38:03 -!- Grunt_ is now known as Grunt 10:38:32 -!- Dakoteus has quit [Client Quit] 10:41:00 -!- clouded_ is now known as st_ 10:45:05 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:52:43 -!- DrStalker has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:55:12 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:56:25 TheNoid (L15 KoAr) ASSERT(in_non_diamond_int(r.start)) in 'ray.cc' at line 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(D:11) 10:57:09 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 11:00:52 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:02:44 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 11:05:09 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:10:23 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:13:11 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:25:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:25:24 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 11:28:55 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 11:29:56 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:30:32 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:36:11 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:36:35 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest85185 11:41:26 -!- Guest85185 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:45:04 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:49:57 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:50:33 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 11:56:36 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1542-g9c1a92e: Tweak & simplify xp abyss XP exits 10(13 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9c1a92ebe1cc 11:56:59 xp abyss XP 11:57:01 ugh 11:57:49 I hope you've learned from this experience 11:58:00 !banish Grunt 11:58:01 PleasingFungus casts a spell. Grunt is cast into the Abyss! 11:58:20 can we pull some of those numbers in the last formula into constants 11:58:24 I don't like magic numbers 11:58:45 it's all witchcraft to me 11:58:51 WITCHES 11:59:00 we needed some more witches, after chequers removed the last ones 11:59:04 rip 11:59:08 ya rip. 11:59:57 -!- Jessika has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:00:53 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:04:07 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 12:09:11 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1542-g9c1a92e (34) 12:09:38 -!- minmay has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:09:47 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:10:04 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:11:09 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:15:17 I think crawl needs more references to real-world religions and cultures 12:15:24 what could go wrong? 12:15:39 what, like the robe of night? 12:15:47 were you around for the first iteration of Robin 12:15:53 probably not 12:15:57 ??robe of night 12:15:57 robe of night[1/1]: the +4 robe of Night {+Inv MR+ SInv Stlth++ (50)}. Reduces LOS by 2, partially stacking with lantern of shadows, nightstalker and Darkness. 12:16:27 ??darkness 12:16:27 darkness[1/1]: A level 6 Hexes spell that reduces LoS by 25% normally (stacks with nightstalker, but with diminishing returns) and as the description implies, does not decrease your stealth as a penalty. 12:16:31 ??nightstalker 12:16:31 nightstalker[1/1]: +40/80/120 stealth -1/-2/-3 LOS. Remember, LOS is reciprocal, so when your LOS is reduced, so is the LOS of everything else in the dungeon. 12:17:46 -!- Galewind has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:18:35 -!- West1C_iOS has quit [] 12:19:30 A long black robe made of strange glossy material. It seems to shroud its wearer in darkness. According to legend, it was the gift of Ratri the Goddess of the Night to one of her followers. 12:19:30 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:19:45 was that originally kali or something 12:19:49 no 12:19:52 ratri is a real god 12:19:53 well, 'real' 12:19:57 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:02 Ratri, often also called Ratridevi, is the goddess of night in the Vedas and the mythology of India and Hinduism. 12:20:42 ahok 12:21:10 initially i was vaguely trying to do some 'include more cultures' thing with robin 12:21:47 so she was The Grand Nawab 12:21:51 this was a bad idea. 12:25:51 -!- regret-index has joined ##crawl-dev 12:26:52 seeking real-world religions and cultures for ideas is some small part of how ushabtiu and bennu came to be 12:27:07 also raiju? 12:27:59 raiju are from pokemon, right 12:28:22 it is probably too late to convert spark wasps into impundulu (and another elemental bird might be a bit much), but for the sake of holies I will probably hold onto juggernaut to dharmapala for a long while while I'm stupidly still here 12:28:43 juggernauts are from a religion!!! 12:28:45 sort of 12:28:54 jaggernaut is not really a connection 12:29:12 you might as well say the aesir are ashuras or mithras is maitreya 12:29:21 maybe I will.... 12:29:23 -!- mopl is now known as mopl_away 12:29:37 -!- nithck has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:30:14 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 12:31:36 there's also still that fravashi derived undead design I'm still sitting on. kind of annoying that with one or two exceptions all of the functional holy designs ended up being abrahamic. 12:32:29 -!- iafm has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:32:49 there's just no apising you... 12:33:16 !glasses 12:33:17 ( •_•)    ( •_•)>⌐■-■    (⌐■_■) 12:35:00 yes, clearly next I will demand oozes to be made into globsters, and sky beasts into sky fish, and for tiamat to at least have some bloody H in her band instead of re-inforcing d&d's draconic nonsense 12:35:30 what's an H 12:35:44 sphinx (15H) | Spd: 11 | HD: 16 | HP: 74-104 | AC/EV: 5/5 | Dam: 25, 12, 12 | 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 2267 | Sp: confuse, paralyse, minor healing (2d8), smiting (7-17), slow | Sz: Big | Int: human. 12:35:44 %??sphinx 12:35:46 also, what's a globster 12:36:55 a piece of a corpse torn off and drifting in from the sea rendered unrecognizable and vaguely ascribed as the forms of unknown alien sea beasts 12:38:48 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:39:46 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:40:31 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:41:39 (the real grounds to be made would probably be in all the generic demons the tiers are saddled with, but who cares about those) 12:42:25 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:43:45 -!- regret-index has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:50:26 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:50:38 <|amethyst> bgiannan: I am here, but might not get a chance to look at your patch until tonight or tomorrow 12:50:57 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:35 <|amethyst> +1 to making tiamat more the mesopotamian tiamat and less the D&D one 12:53:38 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:53:57 <|amethyst> though I guess Zot doesn't necessarily have enough water 12:55:11 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:53 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:03:05 -!- feksclaus has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 13:04:40 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:05:07 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:06:03 fr: sword of sargon 13:07:03 -!- wheals has left ##crawl-dev 13:10:50 <|amethyst> FR: more mythologies 13:11:20 <|amethyst> for example, implement the transdimensional hellspider, but call it "Anansi" 13:15:37 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:15:44 -!- argent0 has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:28:04 the transdimensional hellspider will always live on 13:28:07 in our 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15:41:38 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let grunt know. 15:41:53 i actually don't know the answer to this one 15:41:58 is this the new end 15:42:01 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 15:42:34 PleasingFungus: it is a rare side effect of the "garden" ending 15:42:43 I haven't been able to figure out exactly why it happens occasionally 15:43:00 huh 15:43:02 CanOfWorms is correct there 15:43:04 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:44:01 :D 15:44:26 does ilsuiw have a garden vault? 15:44:29 no 15:44:46 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:44:48 my original intent with the garden was to have the "guardian" vault have a completely different unique which doesn't exist yet 15:44:53 ah 15:45:01 and may never exist because Shoals already has enough uniques :) 15:45:08 could the vault be generating because the game is trying to place an ilsuiw vault and doesn't have a garden vault? 15:45:12 well 15:45:15 wellllll 15:45:23 the Ilsuiw vault it picks is independent of the rest of the layout 15:45:27 I did change it so that many melee uniques don't spawn in shoals (or swamp) 15:45:33 so, technically, that's an opportunity 15:45:34 ! 15:45:41 because they were super pathetic there 15:45:57 _Asterion flops about in the water. 15:46:00 i think this was pre tides revision 15:46:04 what I wanted for the vault was a unique satyr 15:46:07 (cannot be called Pan obv) 15:46:08 so maybe they'd be more viable with more shallow water 15:46:11 why not??? 15:46:22 -!- mopl has quit [Client Quit] 15:46:23 there were bugs filed against Pan being Pan!!!! 15:46:27 also we wanted to remove all of Pan 15:46:59 anyway if not Pan, the most appropriate mythological figure to base a unique design on is Silanus 15:47:13 I haven't yet translated that into a design though :) 15:47:59 those sound like good bugs 15:48:35 if we remove royal jelly, we'll need something else to fill the vital name conflict role 15:48:50 sigmund fault 15:48:57 someone whip up a unique named Choko 15:48:59 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:49:06 no geekosaur 15:49:09 obviously that would be a god 15:49:10 Chokowaru 15:50:57 at some point I need to clean up my volcano shoals end and submit it to mantis, or something 15:51:00 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:53:01 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:54:30 -!- giann has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 15:54:40 more volcanoes 15:54:42 hm 15:54:54 i should have a shot at my volcano at some point 15:56:21 sooner or later I will have a good volcano idea 15:56:29 Grunt: do you want to steal mine 15:56:40 nah, I'd rather think of my own >.> 15:56:50 also I want more people to learn to vault more :) 15:56:52 i thought you might, but I figured I should offer :) 15:57:40 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:00:53 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01:57 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:02:00 -!- giann has joined ##crawl-dev 16:06:23 -!- Wolfechu has 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[2016-03-09 22:01:53] Yermak the Unseen (L16 SpTm of Zin) entered the Elven Halls on turn 20055. (Orc:3) 17:10:06 yes, amalloy 17:10:30 i doubt that's intentional 17:11:47 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 17:12:48 -!- Guest72009 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:12:59 -!- gong has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:14:43 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:14:59 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:17:53 <|amethyst> I guess the mercs are getting Zin as their god 17:18:41 <|amethyst> why does _mercenary_card use you.religion there anyway? 17:18:57 <|amethyst> I'd expect mercenaries to be more likely to follow NO_GOD or maybe Gozag or something 17:19:40 -!- miek_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:22:36 <|amethyst> (the actual angering happens in apply_daction_to_mons, and it applies to monsters for which mons_matches_daction; Zin uses DACT_ALLY_HOLY, which matches mon->wont_attack() && is_good_god(mon->god) 17:22:40 <|amethyst> ) 17:22:51 -!- _miek has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:01 -!- _miek is now known as miek_ 17:23:09 -!- mamgar has quit [Client Quit] 17:25:35 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 17:29:42 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest49963 17:30:52 |amethyst: for messaging for priestly mercs, i guess 17:34:06 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:34:08 strange, crawl links in a reasonable time now 17:34:21 !tell canofworms The Miracle Of Unlife 17:34:21 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let canofworms know. 17:34:53 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:35:44 hm? only time I see crawl link slowly is when I have LTO on 17:35:51 (well, thee days that's always) 17:35:55 geekosaur: he's on windows, iirc 17:35:59 (correct me if i'm wrong) 17:36:13 oh, wouldn't know anything about that 17:36:16 -!- Blade-_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:36:24 yeah 17:36:33 it used to take ~4 minutes 17:36:39 * geekosaur does have a windows VM, no dev system on it and at 2GB it's already fighting with chrome for my RAM all the time >.> 17:36:58 is there anywhere to watch the ttyrecs of either of the winning 4.1 games? It doesn't look like they're recorded in the same place as other ttyrecs. Do they just not exist? 17:37:06 (and I can trivially lock it up by running 3 applications in it...) 17:37:47 Blade-_: they might not; you might want to /msg eoc to see if he has backups or anything 17:39:27 Oh, is he the one who runs the servers they're stored on? 17:40:21 no, but he was doing some of the games, and i think he may have recorded them on termcast 17:40:43 hm 17:40:47 oh, cool. I'll do that. Thanks! 17:40:58 Napkin: are there ttyrecs for 4.1 games on CDO? 17:41:12 didn't even think of asking the server admin at first :P 17:41:37 (of course, we usually don't want to bother him for nothing) 17:41:44 s/usually // 17:46:13 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:48:51 -!- agentgt_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:53:49 -!- Guest49963 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:54:26 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Client Quit] 17:58:14 -!- Ququman_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:45 -!- Ququman has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:00:52 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:54 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:56 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:59 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:01:56 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:02:33 -!- pantaril has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:02:35 -!- DashNine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:02:41 -!- giann1 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:02:42 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-a0-1542-g9c1a92e (34) 18:04:02 -!- giann has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:04:13 -!- surr has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:05:02 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:08:26 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:10:16 -!- mork is now known as morik 18:21:39 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:22:06 -!- wheals has quit [Disconnected by services] 18:22:10 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals 18:23:05 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0.2/20160210153822]] 18:25:14 -!- giann1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:29:34 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:29:41 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:33:43 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:35:52 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:47:15 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:55:11 -!- giann1 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:59:17 -!- Sizzell has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:00:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:00:53 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:07 -!- glosham has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:01:19 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:01:29 -!- morik has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:02:02 -!- wheals has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:03:17 -!- Sizzell has joined ##crawl-dev 19:04:25 -!- morik_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:04:34 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:14:11 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:14:32 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:16:25 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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The only rule is that you can't play something that has already been won on this account. To see how its doing, type: !lg comborobin won x=cdist(char) 21:55:48 -!- Bcadren_ is now known as Bcadren 21:59:04 -!- surr has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:00:55 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:06:10 oh ontoclasm 22:06:10 CanOfWorms: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 22:06:13 have you seen 22:06:15 !messages 22:06:15 (1/1) PleasingFungus said (4h 31m 54s ago): The Miracle Of Unlife 22:06:41 -!- Bajowa has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:06:41 er 22:06:44 http://puu.sh/nAPHD/4598b0721c.png 22:06:49 as depicted here 22:06:52 aha 22:07:01 abominable. 22:07:36 I have 3 more ideas left to make 22:07:56 http://puu.sh/nB78P/3f023935be.png 22:07:59 super rough drafts here 22:08:46 -!- mizu_no__ has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:08:59 also, are there any of the original abom tiles you want to keep? 22:09:11 !learn add CanOfWorms only has 3 good ideas left in him 22:09:11 CanOfWorms[2/2]: only has 3 good ideas left in him 22:09:20 gasp 22:09:53 I keep forgetting aboms are under demon, not undead 22:20:43 @??large abomination 22:20:43 large abomination (04X) | Spd: 6-12 | HD: 9 | HP: 40-59 | AC/EV: 11/6 | Dam: 40 | 07undead, evil, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(100), 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 366 | Sz: Big | Int: brainless. 22:20:59 were they ever actually demonic? 22:21:31 amalloy: I thought the ones generated in the abyss and pan were once demonic 22:21:48 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:26:53 they were both for a stretch 22:26:57 in various capacities 22:26:58 it was 22:26:59 odd 22:28:17 -!- Elitist has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:31:27 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:34:34 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:45:07 <|amethyst> really the special case was twisted res 22:45:16 <|amethyst> (and scroll of unholy creation) 22:45:17 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 22:45:27 <|amethyst> those aboms were undead, and the other ones were demonic 22:45:38 <|amethyst> then they all became kinda sorta dual-holiness 22:45:43 <|amethyst> then they because just undead 22:47:04 so, are there any of the original abomination tiles anyone wants to keep (possibly updated) 22:47:17 I already did chow mein 22:54:54 <|amethyst> I think the spider abom (abomination_large1.png) could be moved to unused to be reused for something else 22:55:14 <|amethyst> it doesn't really fit with the theme of the others 22:55:35 <|amethyst> the dead christmas tree (abomination_large.png) can just go IMO :) 22:55:49 <|amethyst> or maybe it's moldy pudding 22:58:46 dead christmas tree was already remade (it's chow mein) 22:58:56 say hello to.... 22:58:58 http://puu.sh/nB9Oz/ee17cda8f6.png 22:59:00 DEAD CORPSE TREE 22:59:56 <|amethyst> much better 23:00:14 <|amethyst> bone pudding 23:00:55 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:02:30 <|amethyst> the spider one kind of reminds me of the Shadows from Babylon 5 23:04:15 -!- Jarlyk2 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:08:19 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:08:52 <|amethyst> ... and that's why we're turning Sigmund into a dart slug 23:09:24 finally! 23:09:24 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 23:09:25 !lg * killer~~the_dart_slug 23:09:25 No games for * (killer~~the_dart_slug). 23:09:28 rip... 23:09:32 heh 23:09:35 sort of low hd 23:09:50 <|amethyst> !lg * recent killer~~-shaped s=killer 23:09:51 No games for * (recent killer~~-shaped). 23:10:17 <|amethyst> !lg * recent killer~~^[a-z]+_the_ s=killer 23:10:18 4108 games for * (recent killer~~^[a-z]+_the_): 2961x Blork the orc, 16x Gastronok the shard shrike, 13x Gastronok the juggernaut, 9x Grinder the hellion, 9x Sigmund the steam dragon, 8x Gastronok the titan, 7x Sigmund the killer bee, 7x Grinder the sixfirhy, 7x Grinder the hell beast, 6x Grinder the quasit, 6x Grinder the efreet, 6x Pikel the harpy, 5x Grinder the tormentor, 5x Grinder the apocal... 23:10:28 <|amethyst> !lg * recent killer~~_the_ s=killer 23:10:29 4189 games for * (recent killer~~_the_): 2961x Blork the orc, 16x Gastronok the shard shrike, 13x Gastronok the juggernaut, 9x Sigmund the steam dragon, 9x Grinder the hellion, 8x Gastronok the titan, 7x Grinder the sixfirhy, 7x Grinder the hell beast, 7x Sigmund the killer bee, 6x Grinder the quasit, 6x Pikel the harpy, 6x Grinder the efreet, 5x Sigmund the wolf, 5x Ijyb the wasp, 5x Crazy Yiuf t... 23:11:29 <|amethyst> I know it's funny and all, but has anyone considered lowering gastronok's HD? 23:11:48 <|amethyst> I mean, not necessarily substantially 23:11:56 <|amethyst> @??gastronok 23:11:56 Gastronok (06w) | Spd: 5 | HD: 20 | HP: 128-171 | AC/EV: 3/1 | Dam: 40 | 10items, 10doors, amphibious, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(80), 12drown | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 2231 | Sp: airstrike (0-50), slow, swiftness, sum.small mammal, cantrip | Sz: Big | Int: human. 23:12:16 @??gastronok hd:15 23:12:16 Gastronok (06w) | Spd: 5 | HD: 15 | HP: 91-132 | AC/EV: 3/1 | Dam: 40 | 10items, 10doors, amphibious, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(80), 12drown | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 1256 | Sp: airstrike (0-40), slow, swiftness, sum.small mammal, cantrip | Sz: Big | Int: human. 23:12:21 brutal airstrike nerfs 23:12:25 I wonder what the mean looks like 23:13:00 <|amethyst> hm 23:13:19 <|amethyst> I don't think monster's numbers are right anyway 23:13:34 hmm, my friendly torpor snail isn't slowing these ugly things in 0.16 23:13:41 <|amethyst> oh, right 23:13:54 CanOfWorms: yes, friendly torpor snails turn off their slow fields entirely 23:13:55 <|amethyst> there's this weird AC thing 23:13:58 <|amethyst> int damage_taken = 10 + 2 * mons->get_hit_dice(); 23:13:59 at least they did, i forget if they still do 23:14:04 <|amethyst> then resists, then 23:14:06 yeah it was reverted recently 23:14:07 the worry was wrt enslave spell 23:14:09 <|amethyst> damage_taken = foe->apply_ac(random2avg(damage_taken, 3)); 23:14:19 speaking of which, that means it's now time to remove haste the spell 23:14:23 and replace it with summon torpor snail 23:14:25 does it. 23:14:27 ha! 23:14:38 <|amethyst> we already have Englaciation 23:14:51 -!- Alcopop has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:15:47 hm 23:16:00 we have slow and weird mass slow (englac), confuse and weird mass confuse (alistair's), petrify and 23:16:04 an open niche!? 23:16:06 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:16:29 <|amethyst> so I guess the actual damage, ignoring resistances, is 1d17 + 2d18 - 3 23:16:32 petrify is the weird paralzy, though 23:16:39 |amethyst: for gastronok? 23:16:43 CanOfWorms: true! 23:16:50 so clearly the mass version would have to be even weirder 23:16:54 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: yeah, random2avg(50, 3) 23:16:59 and sigmund the steam dragon!! 23:17:51 that's surprisingly sane 23:18:06 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I'm probably off by 1 23:18:29 hmm, now that pakellas exists 23:18:37 does that mean there's secret P torpor snail tech?! 23:18:38 <|amethyst> it's actually (1d50 + 2d51)/3 - 1 23:22:34 CanOfWorms: probably not 23:23:40 <|amethyst> ? 23:23:53 <|amethyst> I don't get it 23:24:30 -!- GoblinBomb has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:25:44 torpor snails now affect enemies because enslavement is more limited, but now that P exists you can recharge /enslave more liberally 23:25:51 <|amethyst> ah 23:26:14 CanOfWorms: well 23:26:19 the problem is with the first clause of that sentence 23:26:20 which is not true 23:26:48 <|amethyst> ? 23:26:48 torpor snails affect enemies because that makes sense 23:26:58 well, they didn't when enslave the spell existed 23:27:04 <|amethyst> the change did say "less possibility for abuse" 23:27:04 i was saying that, in principle, we could probably allow friendly torpor snails to affect enemies 23:27:11 <|amethyst> %git c5f8fa8 23:27:11 07wheals02 * 0.17-a0-1155-gc5f8fa8: Let enslaved torpor snails operate as normal. 10(10 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c5f8fa8fac42 23:27:30 hrm 23:27:32 but 23:27:45 oh, I was looking at the wrong function 23:27:45 the notion of a god of torpor snails is pretty cool 23:27:46 disregard 23:27:54 amalloy: maybe it could use the C letter 23:28:02 <|amethyst> hm 23:28:03 the second google go game is live, btw 23:28:06 give him an altar covered with snails...??? 23:28:07 <|amethyst> what about permallies 23:28:15 *give C 23:28:29 |amethyst: if you can polymorph your ally into a torpor snail, you are a hero 23:28:30 fr make torpor snail aura stack 23:28:41 and then make a chei vault which is just 1000 torpor snails 23:28:46 <|amethyst> I guess they're not intelligent so you can't spectralise them 23:28:56 <|amethyst> and a spectral one probably wouldn't work anyway 23:28:59 also spectrals aren't permanent 23:29:10 <|amethyst> I was thinking Yred enslave 23:29:27 o 23:29:28 does it work on torpor snails though? 23:29:28 <|amethyst> hence the not intelligent thing 23:29:32 <|amethyst> no 23:29:44 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:31:45 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 23:35:00 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:36:07 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:38:01 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:41:00 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:41:53 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 23:43:34 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Client Quit] 23:44:31 ok, this is the weirdest zot:5 vault i've ever seen 23:45:04 a bunch of neutral draconians wandering around in steam clouds over water surrounding an oof encased in glass 23:45:30 sauna? 23:45:35 i'm sure it has some cute name like "draconian hot tub" too 23:45:38 yeah, basically 23:45:45 or maybe that's the name of it 23:46:16 it's the sauna, yes 23:46:21 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:46:23 -!- Athaboros has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:46:38 I made a sauna for ilsuiw 23:46:44 haha 23:46:45 cute 23:46:51 need to finish the volcano end though so I can submit it 23:46:56 haha 23:46:58 !vault nrook_zot_tub 23:46:58 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/zot.des#l926 23:47:00 zot tub 23:47:38 he's still quite proud of that 23:48:44 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 23:48:55 the only vault with neutral monsters in all of zot.des 23:49:40 hahaha 23:49:43 zot tub 23:49:51 ^^ 23:49:56 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 23:50:02 i said it would be a hot tub pun 23:51:56 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:52:35 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:52:56 -!- surr has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:53:30 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:56:10 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 23:57:25 why does the mac os console build execute the command `/whatever/crawl; exit` instead of `exec /whatever/crawl`? 23:58:41 chequers: the alphago game appears to be totally silent to me. am i experiencing IT problems? 23:59:13 yes 23:59:24 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1542-g9c1a92e (34) 23:59:25 go doesn't involve shouting or loud motion, unlike your barbaric western games, amalloy. 23:59:29 the micing is not pro quality though, levels change a lo 23:59:30 t