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00:33:49 <Rast-> easy crawl server setup when?
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02:13:30 <Rast-> FR a fixedart that has both reaching and cleaving
02:13:53 <Rast-> basicalyl it hits those 24 closest squares at the same time
02:14:09 <PleasingFungus> Rast-: Finisher
02:14:16 <Rast-> ??finisher
02:14:17 <Sequell> finisher[1/1]: The +5 scythe "Finisher" {speed, Str+3}.
02:14:23 <PleasingFungus> (when this was suggested before, the suggestion was: put it on this)
02:14:24 <Rast-> oh?
02:14:35 <Rast-> that would be sweet
02:14:38 <PleasingFungus> well, the other suggestion was 'put it on all scythes'
02:14:39 <Rast-> keep the speed brand
02:14:40 <PleasingFungus> but that seems a bit much
02:14:41 <Rast-> hahaha
02:14:56 <Rast-> ??scythe
02:14:56 <Sequell> scythe[1/2]: (polearms; -4 acc / 14 dam / 2.0 base delay / 0.7 min delay; two handed). The weapon of choice of Sigmund and reapers. It's not worth picking up (unless it happens to be the {scythe of curses}). Scythes chop hydra heads.
02:15:08 <Rast-> would probably still not be worth using
02:15:13 <Rast-> ??scythe of curses
02:15:13 <Sequell> scythe of curses[1/3]: +13 scythe of draining which curses your equipment and inflicts necromancy miscasts on living targets it hits. Better than most bardiches!
02:15:22 <Rast-> er, except that
02:15:22 <PleasingFungus> i was more concerned about the effects of enemy scythes on allies
02:15:39 <Rast-> serve the player right for having allies
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02:27:11 <ProzacElf> heh
02:27:32 <PleasingFungus> hm
02:27:45 <PleasingFungus> i'm pretty sure any attempt to complicate cleaving further would cause the game to crack in half
02:27:53 <PleasingFungus> given that 90% of bugs are from either cleaving or spectral weapon or both
02:28:05 <ProzacElf> heh
02:28:16 <PleasingFungus> i was gonna put it on my todo to mess around with
02:28:20 <PleasingFungus> but it's probably best not to
02:28:20 <ProzacElf> i see an awful lot of crashes in beam.cc for it being cleaving or spectral weapon =p
02:28:32 <PleasingFungus> spectral weapon causes beam crashes
02:28:38 <ProzacElf> really?
02:28:46 <ProzacElf> i wouldn't have intuitively guessed that
02:29:29 <PleasingFungus> I think there was at least one involving its owner being killed by a beam that went on to hit it
02:29:33 <Zaba> intuition is not the best instrument for picking apart crawl code
02:29:38 <ProzacElf> haha
02:29:51 <ProzacElf> to both of those
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02:36:38 <gammafunk> !cmd !comborobinold .echo comborobin oldchar progress: $(let (num (!lg comborobin cv>=0.10 cv<=0.15 crace!=LO|Dj|El !experimental won x=count(char) fmt:"${x[0]}") den (!lg * cv>=0.10 cv<=0.15 crace!=LO|Dj|El !experimental won x=count(char) fmt:"${x[0]}")) $num"/"$den" ("$(/ (* 100 $num) $den)"%)")
02:36:39 <Sequell> Defined command: !comborobinold => .echo comborobin oldchar progress: $(let (num (!lg comborobin cv>=0.10 cv<=0.15 crace!=LO|Dj|El !experimental won x=count(char) fmt:"${x[0]}") den (!lg * cv>=0.10 cv<=0.15 crace!=LO|Dj|El !experimental won x=count(char) fmt:"${x[0]}")) $num"/"$den" ("$(/ (* 100 $num) $den)"%)")
02:36:43 <gammafunk> !comborobinold
02:36:50 <Sequell> comborobin oldchar progress: 25/745 (3%)
02:36:58 <gammafunk> hm
02:37:08 <gammafunk> oh
02:37:12 <gammafunk> right
02:37:49 <gammafunk> !cmd !comborobinold .echo comborobin new+old progress: $(let (num (!lg comborobin crace!=LO|Dj|El !experimental won x=count(char) fmt:"${x[0]}") den (!lg * cv>=0.10 cv<=0.15 crace!=LO|Dj|El !experimental won x=count(char) fmt:"${x[0]}")) $num"/"$den" ("$(/ (* 100 $num) $den)"%)")
02:37:50 <Sequell> Redefined command: !comborobinold => .echo comborobin new+old progress: $(let (num (!lg comborobin crace!=LO|Dj|El !experimental won x=count(char) fmt:"${x[0]}") den (!lg * cv>=0.10 cv<=0.15 crace!=LO|Dj|El !experimental won x=count(char) fmt:"${x[0]}")) $num"/"$den" ("$(/ (* 100 $num) $den)"%)")
02:37:54 <gammafunk> !comborobinold
02:38:01 <Sequell> comborobin new+old progress: 620/745 (83%)
02:38:07 <gammafunk> !comborobin
02:38:09 <Sequell> comborobin progress: 615/615 (100%)
02:38:13 <gammafunk> nice
02:39:05 <gammafunk> !cmd !comborobinold .echo comborobin new+old(>=0.10) progress: $(let (num (!lg comborobin crace!=LO|Dj|El !experimental won x=count(char) fmt:"${x[0]}") den (!lg * cv>=0.10 cv<=0.15 crace!=LO|Dj|El !experimental won x=count(char) fmt:"${x[0]}")) $num"/"$den" ("$(/ (* 100 $num) $den)"%)")
02:39:06 <Sequell> Redefined command: !comborobinold => .echo comborobin new+old(>=0.10) progress: $(let (num (!lg comborobin crace!=LO|Dj|El !experimental won x=count(char) fmt:"${x[0]}") den (!lg * cv>=0.10 cv<=0.15 crace!=LO|Dj|El !experimental won x=count(char) fmt:"${x[0]}")) $num"/"$den" ("$(/ (* 100 $num) $den)"%)")
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02:45:45 <PleasingFungus> !lg comborobin cv<=0.11 won
02:45:46 <Sequell> 3. comborobin the Archmage (L27 SpSt of Ashenzari), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-03-06 07:17:53, with 1348336 points after 151863 turns and 14:16:38.
02:45:47 <PleasingFungus> !lg comborobin cv<=0.11 won s=char
02:45:48 <Sequell> 3 games for comborobin (cv<=0.11 won): SpSt, SEMo, SETm
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03:04:53 <Cheibriados> New branch created: balefularc (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/balefularc
03:04:53 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07[balefularc] * 0.18-a0-1515-gbae21e1: New spell: Baleful Arc (L6 Conj/Hex/Tmut) {WIP} 10(6 minutes ago, 7 files, 99+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bae21e1bea7c
03:10:47 <PleasingFungus> !lg osuadh cv=0.11
03:10:48 <Sequell> 1. osuadh the Chopper (L3 MiBe of Trog), blasted by an orc priest (divine providence) on D:3 on 2012-10-07 01:06:53, with 115 points after 1049 turns and 0:01:28.
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03:11:26 <Sequell> 15. osuadh the Transmogrifier (L7 SETm of Makhleb), slain by an ogre (a +0,+0 giant spiked club) on D:5 on 2016-02-25 23:59:34, with 853 points after 6676 turns and 0:18:03.
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03:42:18 <travis-ci> The build passed. (balefularc - bae21e1 #4999 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/114012537
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09:29:35 <|amethyst> FR: amulet of inacc gives you -5 accuracy and +2 damage
09:29:42 <|amethyst> or maybe +1
09:35:00 <|amethyst> I guess the +1 damage would need to not apply to AUTOMATIC_HIT
09:51:15 <Xenobreeder> Might be more interesting to give infusion status.
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10:33:00 <Grunt> |amethyst: don't forget to make it buff the rod of inaccuracy
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13:14:44 <MarvinPA> https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/498asc/smoke_pours_from_its_what_now/
13:15:04 <PleasingFungus> I think that's been reported before
13:17:13 <MarvinPA> looks like they're supposed to be handled at least? ("pupil")
13:17:17 <|amethyst> GOOE could have "pupil"
13:17:20 <|amethyst> hah
13:17:28 <MarvinPA> !source hand_name
13:17:29 <Sequell> 1/4. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/form-data.h#l49
13:17:39 <MarvinPA> not that one
13:17:46 <PleasingFungus> !source hand_name 2
13:17:46 <Sequell> 2/4. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/monster.cc#l2403
13:18:34 <PleasingFungus> wait, giant orange brains have rhizomes?
13:19:08 <MarvinPA> rand is only if it's a chaos spawn it looks like
13:19:34 <MarvinPA> just confusingly formatted
13:21:51 <PleasingFungus> oh, the 'default'
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13:34:33 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1515-g333d932: Simplify rMut 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/333d9320e68b
13:42:45 <PleasingFungus> hopefully people won't scream at me too much fort his
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14:11:21 <Grunt> !simplify PleasingFungus
14:12:06 <PleasingFungus> :)
14:12:13 * PleasingFungus feels a bit simple...
14:12:55 <Grunt> /nick SimpleFungus
14:13:57 <PleasingFungus> haven't I had enough variant names for a while?
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15:26:57 <Cheibriados> Temporal Distortion causes graphical bugs with water/beach tiles in Shoals. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10314 by Brannock
15:30:06 <amalloy> FR temporal distortion should switch you to console
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17:53:40 <chequers> did someone see this bug https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/498asc/smoke_pours_from_its_what_now/
17:54:03 <amalloy> yes, it was discussed earlier
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18:01:08 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-a0-1515-g333d932 (34)
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18:07:34 <chequers> pleasingfungus: did you want to talk about H capstone sometime
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18:16:44 <PleasingFungus> chequers: i'm asleep right now
18:16:46 <PleasingFungus> but yeah we should at some point
18:16:54 <chequers> no rush
18:18:55 <PleasingFungus> also someone should talk about release dates for 0.18
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18:22:04 <chequers> last one was Nov 6
18:22:19 <PleasingFungus> 0.16 was may 8
18:22:27 <PleasingFungus> or 'mate' for short
18:22:51 <chequers> 0.15 ruined this six month cycle by being on aug 27
18:23:13 <chequers> oh, i'm looking at tag date
18:23:19 <chequers> what are you looking at?
18:24:13 <PleasingFungus> changelog
18:24:51 <chequers> well i guess may is a good time regardless
18:24:59 <PleasingFungus> that may be
18:25:10 <PleasingFungus> 8)
18:25:20 <PleasingFungus> I think we can probably have a shorter feature freeze than 0.16 had
18:25:28 <PleasingFungus> iirc that one was a month long and was kind of excessive
18:25:49 <chequers> just slip in H the day before release
18:26:19 <chequers> maybe you could do that for april fools? might be too believable
18:26:35 <chequers> wonder if we could launch the greenlight on april 1
18:27:34 <chequers> do you want to do another trunk update?
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18:32:27 <PleasingFungus> another blog post?
18:32:34 <PleasingFungus> probably some time in the next week or two, I guess
18:32:37 <PleasingFungus> not urgent
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18:49:45 <Rast> hey guys since you are determined to put Pakellas in stable
18:50:04 <Rast> can you make him like 10% less powerful number but allow mevoking rods direct from inventory?
18:50:05 <Rast> thanks
18:50:12 <Rast> *evoking
18:50:36 <chequers> +1 :D
18:50:50 <amalloy> that makes rods just like extra-overpowered wands
18:50:56 <Rast> ok, so?
18:51:00 <chequers> just like decks
18:51:13 <Rast> maybe there are too many evokables in the game
18:51:25 <Rast> and I say that as someone who loves evokables and the eovcations skill
18:51:41 <Rast> and still plays .15/.16 partly for the better  evocations apts
18:51:57 <Xenobreeder> PleasingFungus, after all the changes the god became a bit boring and on the weak side. I understand the balance issues, but maybe they can be addressed differently?
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18:52:20 <Xenobreeder> For example, like in Fate/stay night: don't make the ancestor weaker. Make the player weaker!
18:52:38 <Xenobreeder> So you power the ancestor with your life force.
18:53:06 <chequers> maybe it can be like naruto
18:53:12 <PleasingFungus> I am going to be completely honest with you: "like in fate/stay night" instantly makes me ten times less likely to agree with your suggestion
18:53:18 <Xenobreeder> Apply -wiz, -slay and - hp percentage for the abilities.
18:53:32 <chequers> you don't appreciate japanese culture PleasingFungus
18:53:45 <PleasingFungus> what a shame
18:54:36 <Xenobreeder> To be honest, I haven't seen it, only heard about it. But it was the closest example I could think about.
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18:56:26 <PleasingFungus> What do you mean by "apply -wiz, -slay and - hp percentage for the abilities"? I don't really understand.
18:56:29 <chequers> haha it's an anime about a guy and three high school girls who are bound as his servant
18:56:39 <PleasingFungus> chequers: it was originally a porno game
18:56:43 <PleasingFungus> please rate your level of surprise
18:56:57 <chequers> 11/10
18:57:05 <chequers> perhaps -1/10 after overflow would be appropriate
18:57:19 <PleasingFungus> ; )
18:57:26 <chequers> here's a changelog anyway http://dpaste.com/3Q3EC3Y
18:57:32 <PleasingFungus> a friend nagged me into trying the censored version, years ago. I couldn't make it an hour through
18:57:57 <_miek> anime fans are very interesting with their thoughts on quality
18:57:59 <PleasingFungus> you missed rime drakes
18:58:12 <chequers> maybe i just hate them
18:58:28 <PleasingFungus> also, I appreciate the emphasis on your panlord changes
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18:58:48 <chequers> maybe i like those changes more than rime drakes
18:59:06 <PleasingFungus> god damn it, fire crabs broke my script
18:59:09 <chequers> i'm only human damnit
18:59:33 <Xenobreeder> PleasingFungus, I mean — have the pet be weak at base, but if the player wants to make him more powerful — he can transfer some of his life force into the pet, granting it the old transference effect, for example, at the cost of weakening the player (-wiz, -slay and -hp status on player)
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19:00:51 <PleasingFungus> sounds very ru
19:00:56 <PleasingFungus> my position is
19:01:08 <PleasingFungus> by taking this god, the player is expressing their desire to have a strong ally
19:01:22 <PleasingFungus> so, if there should be any downsides to the player, they should always be in effect while following the god
19:01:29 <PleasingFungus> (this is known as a 'conduct')
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19:03:13 <ProzacElf> =O
19:03:13 <chequers> Octavia is not a pet!!!!11111
19:04:26 <PleasingFungus> the fundamental idea of 'weaken the player rather than the ancestor' is plausible, as long as it can be done in a way that's not overly complicated
19:04:31 <PleasingFungus> since this god is quite complicated enough as is
19:04:59 <Xenobreeder> I think that the ally doesn't seem that "strong" now, a bit on the over-nerfed side when compared with the benefits of other gods.
19:06:13 <Xenobreeder> And with a plain old spellforged servitor.
19:08:56 <Xenobreeder> And just boring. Transference before the last change was fun and really encouraging to use it. Now... Not so.
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19:12:07 <ProzacElf> hm.  i think the ally seemed pretty strong
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19:14:29 <chequers> PleasingFungus: i think the dangerous autopickup thing I suggested was a bad idea and should be reverted -- 73f4075
19:15:08 <chequers> @??rime drake
19:15:08 <Gretell> rime drake (02k) | Spd: 12 | HD: 6 | HP: 28-39 | AC/EV: 3/12 | Dam: 8 | fly | Res: 06magic(20), 02cold | XP: 373 | Sp: flash freeze (3d13) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Large | Int: animal.
19:15:13 <chequers> @??fire drake
19:15:13 <Gretell> unknown monster: "fire drake"
19:15:36 <ProzacElf> chequers: i agree. that was an awful idea.  why did you suggest it?!  =p
19:15:43 <chequers> !ambrosia
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19:16:10 <ProzacElf> haha
19:16:41 <ProzacElf> i've complained a number of times to the effect of "boy, it's so much more convenient to turn off autopickup on a dozen items than turn it back on for one or two"
19:17:11 <PleasingFungus> ok.
19:17:59 <PleasingFungus> 'no skin off my butt', as they say.
19:21:23 <chequers> someone going for a greaterminotaur streak on my server accidentally started the same combo again -- would anyone consider it cheating if I just deleted their turn 1 save?
19:21:50 <chequers> my rationale is: for an american/european player, they could just play the rest of their streak on another server and leave that game for dead until the streak is over, then ^q it
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19:22:36 <PleasingFungus> who cares
19:22:41 <PleasingFungus> do whatever makes people
19:22:43 <PleasingFungus> happy
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19:22:54 <PleasingFungus> this isn't like you're editing their save to give them some hw or w/e
19:22:58 <PleasingFungus> it's the most technical thing possible
19:23:01 <ProzacElf> heh
19:24:13 <PleasingFungus> new rule: streaks ONLY count if they are played in the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE
19:24:24 <|amethyst> I mean
19:24:35 <|amethyst> how does greater* streaking work?
19:24:42 <|amethyst> does a duplicate game end the streak?
19:24:43 <n1> I heard in the southern hemisphere streaks go the other way around
19:25:10 <PleasingFungus> |amethyst: I assume they just don't want to have to play the same char again
19:25:14 <chequers> i think he just wants to win a lot of games in a row
19:25:19 <PleasingFungus> and don't want to quit (since that'd break the streak)
19:25:55 <chequers> well it's moot, he decided waiting 15mins for an answer was too long and is just going to win the character
19:26:53 <PleasingFungus> lol
19:27:09 <PleasingFungus> crawl trivia: per comments in the code, one monster still 'essentially has a perma-stoneskin' effect baked in.
19:27:11 <PleasingFungus> which is it?
19:28:11 <chequers> stone elemental?
19:28:15 <wheals> dtem?
19:28:22 <wheals> or maybe jorgy
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19:30:11 <chequers> deep trolll earth mage
19:32:32 <PleasingFungus> chequers wins!
19:32:41 <PleasingFungus> on his second guess, but hey, that's something.
19:32:45 <wheals> i said dtem
19:32:48 <PleasingFungus> oh
19:32:54 <PleasingFungus> who says dtem, tho?
19:33:11 <PleasingFungus> I mean, at worst it's gonna be dtee
19:33:14 <wheals> Who DTEMs the DTEMs?
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19:34:56 <PleasingFungus> oh
19:35:09 <PleasingFungus> did you have an opinion on 0.18 release date / feature freeze date
19:35:33 <PleasingFungus> i'm sort of thinking "early may" and "mid-april" respectively
19:36:01 <wheals> ??plan
19:36:01 <Sequell> plan[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:release_plans
19:36:27 <wheals> i don't think i have any particular things lefti want to get done before release
19:37:13 <PleasingFungus> I might want to tweak yara's unravelling a little, maybe make warlock's mirror work for monsters
19:37:19 <PleasingFungus> the main thing I think is Pak
19:37:52 <wheals> i guess ranged reform would get postponed
19:38:01 <Grunt> I like where P is at
19:38:01 <Grunt> but
19:38:07 <Grunt> I'm also not the most objective person to ask about that
19:38:08 <Grunt> <.<
19:38:40 <wheals> it'd be nice to go back to some of the older PRs like the tiles lighting one
19:38:48 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1516-gdcabbe9: Move most tiles into data 10(2 minutes ago, 4 files, 1094+ 1641-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dcabbe93a0d0
19:38:52 <wheals> !seen bodrick
19:38:52 <Sequell> I last saw Bodrick at Tue Nov 17 09:16:44 2015 UTC (15w 5d 15h 22m 3s ago) parting ##crawl, saying 'chanpart'.
19:38:52 <wheals> welp
19:38:58 <PleasingFungus> afaik no one has actually been working on ranged reform
19:39:03 <wheals> yeah
19:39:15 <PleasingFungus> which makes it easy to postpone - not like it's midway done or something
19:39:30 <PleasingFungus> one thing I might want to do is dig up the old abyss-kills branch
19:39:33 <PleasingFungus> and turn it into an xp timer
19:39:45 <PleasingFungus> that's not particularly tied to a release either, tho
19:40:49 <wheals> boy, you have a lot of open PRs chequers :P
19:42:57 <chequers> <+PleasingFungus> chequers wins! <-- i gave the answer because i thought you had forgotten :P
19:43:11 <PleasingFungus> was coding
19:43:14 <PleasingFungus> and also being asleep
19:43:25 <PleasingFungus> all worn out... i am the sleep tite pupper
19:43:28 <Xenobreeder> What do you think about changing the potion of beneficial mutation into a potion of evolution? Granting the evolution mutation, stacking. Reason: the current beneficial mutation became a bit less useful with the amulet removal.
19:43:34 <chequers> wheals: i need a map editor to review
19:43:58 <PleasingFungus> sounds more complex
19:44:10 <wheals> #242 sounds like a job for MarvinPA
19:44:14 <PleasingFungus> on the other hand, you'd have fewer people complaining that it's not actually beneficial if beneficial's not in the name
19:44:31 <chequers> you mean 243 the gozag one?
19:44:37 <chequers> or is mpa also the mesm specialist
19:44:46 <wheals> nah, removing edge mechanics
19:44:47 <PleasingFungus> since when is mpa a gozag specialist
19:45:02 <chequers> i dunno, but he was the only one who really looked at all the other gozag changes I've submitted
19:45:09 <PleasingFungus> also like half the reason I wanted to keep /lightning was for the silly shoals mesm thing
19:45:25 <PleasingFungus> add more mechanics that interact with loud noises!
19:45:27 <chequers> I never use the noise mechanic, therefore it's a dumb edge case
19:45:35 <PleasingFungus> I see how it is!!!
19:45:40 <chequers> someone suggest statues of mesmerisation in other branches, which I quite liked
19:45:55 <chequers> you can either move towards them to kill them or make a lot of noise to escape
19:46:01 <Grunt> reminds me of my recurring idea
19:46:04 <Grunt> unspeakable horrors
19:46:16 <Grunt> mesm / silence <.<
19:46:25 <chequers> Grunt: would you look at my vaults?
19:47:55 <PleasingFungus> hm
19:48:03 <PleasingFungus> for some reason I thought statues of mesm existed
19:48:10 <PleasingFungus> but that's just me thinking of a game I played with obsidian axe
19:48:21 <chequers> lol
19:48:33 <chequers> reminds me of tf2 pyrovision
19:48:41 <PleasingFungus> i really love obsaxe
19:49:08 <PleasingFungus> I had an idea for a self-mesm form a while back, but never condensed it into something solid
19:49:10 <PleasingFungus> hm
19:49:14 <PleasingFungus> actually, maybe it could be a badform
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19:49:40 <wheals> antifungiform
19:49:54 <PleasingFungus> my nemesis!
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19:51:07 <Cheibriados> 03qoala02 07* 0.18-a0-1274-g5d8936c: Clean up merfolk swimming checks (#10253) 10(4 weeks ago, 3 files, 40+ 28-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5d8936c91b48
19:51:07 <Cheibriados> 03qoala02 07* 0.18-a0-1275-ged9d141: Don't double-print message for unsafe transformations 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 8+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ed9d141527c5
19:51:07 <Cheibriados> 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1519-g1381532: Merge pull request #233 from qoala/clean_up_merfolk_swim_checks 10(7 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/138153234dd5
19:51:17 <wheals> it looked fine to me
19:51:18 <PleasingFungus> sploosh
19:51:36 <wheals> i wonder if the second commit is also on mantis
19:56:52 <wheals> couldn't find it
19:58:11 <wheals> the gozag PR looks reasonable though it means the wrath strays ever further from "potion petition for monsters"
19:58:19 <wheals> s/wrath/flavour
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20:04:53 <PleasingFungus> he just keeps pouring them down your throat!!!
20:09:27 <chequers> hey, if gozag can make mummies quaff, i'm sure he has infinite duration potions
20:13:25 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus:  H bug report: the Transference help still mentions "If you remember your ancestor's death"
20:13:32 <PleasingFungus> oop
20:15:38 <|amethyst> (and FR: make allies understand Searing Ray)
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21:05:08 <Sizzell> resistentialism (L23 HOFi) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1578: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) (Vaults:5)
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21:28:32 <chequers> does animal skin exist purely as flavour?
21:28:58 <|amethyst> chequers:  yes, because it seems weird to give robes to troglodytes
21:29:57 <amalloy> make em nekkid. Be nerf time
21:30:47 <amalloy> clothes are for shame-ridden weaklings
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21:37:39 <chequers> does it?
21:37:57 <chequers> I guess it depends if "robe" conjures mental images of like a monk robe, or just like a bathrobe
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21:40:37 <|amethyst> Trog says "It must be Thursday. I never could get the hang of Thursdays."
21:49:03 <chequers> is there a command in wizmode to get the orb?
21:49:35 <amalloy> &%orb of zot
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22:14:36 <CanOfWorms> the robe of zhor
22:16:21 <chequers> is there any reason abyss.rc has support for spells but none are learnt?
22:20:31 <geekosaur> hm, actually that might make a good april fools thing: replace Crypt with KarnEvil, (some?) monsters within have AF_KLOWN
22:21:59 <Grunt> bring back subtractor snakes <.<
22:22:13 <|amethyst> is that a comics reference or a ELP reference?
22:22:49 <geekosaur> KarnEvil? I'm actually thinking of a pinball game "CarnEvil" that was in CMU's Cyert Hall lunch area for many years
22:23:07 <|amethyst> ah
22:23:34 <geekosaur> they miught well have lifted it from ELP
22:24:22 <geekosaur> (also, idea came from chatter in ##crawl)
22:25:32 * geekosaur makes note to credit Hellmonk if he finds time to poke at it
22:32:31 <chequers> is there any real difference between a crimson imp and ufetubus ally?
22:32:36 <chequers> thinking about simplifying deonic guardian
22:32:49 <geekosaur> oh, and if I don't have time then I can try to a Halloween egg >.>
22:32:57 <geekosaur> s/ to / for /
22:33:46 <geekosaur> ufetubi don't constantly blink away instead of attacking?
22:34:23 <geekosaur> (early demonic guardian's kinda crap because of that crimson imp thing)
22:34:49 <geekosaur> s/early (demonic guardian)/& 1/
22:37:16 <chequers> good sed
22:37:46 <geekosaur> bad sed, it doesn't do ERE :p
22:37:52 <geekosaur> shoulda been \( \)
22:38:39 <|amethyst> and ITYM \1 rather than & ?
22:39:53 <geekosaur> yeh, I started out differently. like I said, bad sed :p
22:40:10 * geekosaur kinda tired, but too early to go to bed
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23:14:32 <PleasingFungus> Agree with most here.  I stopped playing this several months ago because it has become way too simplistic.  A starter-roguelike I would only recommend to noobs.  I still watch for the updates though and shake my head at what happened to a once great roguelike.
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23:15:26 <PleasingFungus> !tell wheals " Trying to beogh ressurect over two orc follower skeletons and another corpse. Got a "Raise DEAD MONSTER?" prompt followed by a crash when I tried pressing Y to see what it would do. "
23:15:27 <Sequell> PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let wheals know.
23:16:10 <ProzacElf> haha
23:16:28 <ProzacElf> where's that from?
23:16:46 <PleasingFungus> wordpress comments
23:16:53 <PleasingFungus> aka
23:16:57 <PleasingFungus> the hall of champions
23:17:01 <ProzacElf> mmmm
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23:19:59 <wheals> strange; it must be the corpse is getting ORC_CORPSE_KEY set but improperly?
23:19:59 <Sequell> wheals: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
23:20:38 <amalloy> that poor commentor. he must be so sick of his 100% winrate
23:23:31 <PleasingFungus> hm
23:23:32 <PleasingFungus> I wonder
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23:23:45 <PleasingFungus> pity, doesn't play online by the alias he commented under
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23:29:26 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1520-g4167224: Dataify weapon/shield tile offsets 10(36 seconds ago, 4 files, 786+ 1354-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/416722485d3c
23:29:36 <Grunt> !
23:30:16 <Grunt> uh
23:30:17 <Grunt> hm
23:30:26 <Grunt> won't that cause problems if you're assigning monsters different tiles
23:30:32 <Grunt> i.e. vault definitions
23:30:35 <Grunt> or gammafunk.rc
23:30:55 <Grunt> I feel as though that should still be done at the tile level and not the monster level
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23:31:18 <PleasingFungus> Grunt: tiles can override it
23:31:57 <PleasingFungus> and the case in which you're going to assign one monster another non-vault-monster's tile is
23:31:59 <PleasingFungus> um
23:32:02 <PleasingFungus> probably not something we want to support
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23:32:33 <PleasingFungus> hm
23:32:41 <PleasingFungus> on the other hand, I'm not sure how this interacts with gammafunk.rc
23:34:32 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1521-g59d19af: Revert "Enable autopickup of dangerous items" 10(5 minutes ago, 2 files, 4+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/59d19afd3d53
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23:34:47 <PleasingFungus> by popular demand
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23:36:48 <PleasingFungus> Grunt: i mean, clearly this should be data, and not a switch-case
23:37:07 <PleasingFungus> but you may be right that it doesn't belong in mon-data
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23:37:20 <ProzacElf> yay
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23:47:22 <chequers> :)
23:47:31 <chequers> what noob suggested it in the first place
23:50:30 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus:  IMO the right place for those offsets would be in dc-mon.txt
23:50:55 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus:  but failing that I do think it should be a map from TILEP_* to the offset data
23:50:59 <PleasingFungus> :(
23:51:15 <PleasingFungus> am I gonna have to revert the commit, or will someone else do it for me
23:51:17 <PleasingFungus> I don't have the heart
23:51:44 <|amethyst> eh, see how badly it breaks gammafunk.rc first :)
23:52:03 <PleasingFungus> haha
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