00:00:30 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01:00 hm 00:01:14 channel poll: should gozag's entrance fee be disabled or changed in some way for sprints 00:01:24 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 00:01:42 "sprints are in immense disrepair so I abstain" 00:01:45 haha 00:01:47 right now on linesprint it apparently counts all the gold on the map as 'nearby' for setting the entry requirement; not sure about other maps 00:01:49 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 00:02:25 it counts all gold generated so far, so for sprints all gold in the map 00:02:31 ya 00:02:44 seems not quite the intent 00:02:49 the purpose was to prevent people switching to gozag late and buying a load of shops, because this was bad as ?????, so I don't think the entry fee rationale applies to sprint 00:02:58 -!- giann has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 00:03:20 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 00:03:33 (fwiw, I think gozag wrath should be the deterrent rather than a usually meaningless entry fee that makes lategame switches to gozag usually literally impossible) 00:03:46 unwind_var fakepoor 00:03:56 chequers: that seems reasonable 00:04:07 ??gozag wrath 00:04:07 gozag wrath[1/1]: All purchased shops close permanently. For your next 2 XLs (or equivalent), potions have a 1/3 chance to fail when quaffed (spending a turn but not the potion), and monsters have a chance (based on HD vs player XL) to be hasted, mighted or berserked when coming into view. 00:04:18 the problem is wrath sucks 00:04:28 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:04:29 specifically or generally 00:05:00 ash wrath is cool 00:05:23 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:05:40 this comes as quite the shock from the person who copied it 00:06:40 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1485-g189885c (34) 00:06:40 :P 00:08:51 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1486-g60b4ee2: Disable gozag service fees in sprint (RPATDO_LAMD) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/60b4ee2488ee 00:10:11 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1486-g60b4ee2: Disable gozag service fees in sprint (RPATDO_LAMD) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/60b4ee2488ee 00:10:42 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:10:55 !lg * killer=purgy 00:10:56 4812. sunmilk the Skirmisher (L4 DsGl), slain by Purgy in Sewer (sewer_co_purgy_island) on 2016-03-03 04:40:22, with 96 points after 1644 turns and 0:04:11. 00:11:07 gozag wrath, I mean 00:11:09 !killratio purgy * recent 00:11:13 purgy wins 7.486% of battles against * (recent). 00:11:15 PleasingFungus: nice name 00:11:24 chequers: it's a bit odd 00:11:31 the wrath applied is short duration, so you can generally avoid the wrath by just walking backwards 00:11:35 I'm trying to remember where I copied that complaint from 00:11:45 probably SA 00:11:48 seems pretty reasonable to me 00:12:03 sunmilk, lunchild, starsapphir 00:12:05 i looked into fixing it, but there's no easy way to extend the duration of things like berserk to "infinity" 00:12:10 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest7645 00:12:25 hm 00:12:33 gozag had cooler wrath in the old days, but it was avoidable by playing optimally 00:12:36 which was a real shame 00:12:45 actually, I know how you'd do that 00:13:04 tag the monster with a prop in gozag wrath effects, check that in mon-ench when deciding whether to decr the zerk duration 00:13:17 (...clowpiec?) 00:13:29 good idea. you could do the same for the other enchs too 00:13:32 Optimal sure 00:13:35 oops 00:13:36 *sure 00:13:52 also, gozag wrath needs a buff for spellcasters too 00:13:58 PleasingFungus knows what i'd suggest!!! 00:14:01 brilliance was made a thing 00:14:13 monster::spell_hd! 00:14:16 not sure how much of a thing, but a thing. 00:14:36 grunt added brilliance aura, but there's scaffolding to make brilliance affect monsters now too as a result 00:15:38 should skip the stacking with scale part and just throw in colonel cores handing out might to the slimes and brilliance to the eyes (???) 00:15:48 ...and injury bond 00:16:50 spell_hd has been around forever 00:16:53 iirc 00:17:01 -!- Guest7645 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:17:28 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:18:10 colonel cores handling? 00:18:36 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 00:18:40 ancient, silly ideas to make slime try to aim for monster synergy 00:18:57 in a version it'll probably be three floors or sometihng anyway so 00:19:06 is colonel cores TRJ? 00:19:19 obviously trj is general core. 00:19:28 doh 00:19:30 no, just a G with a band 00:20:29 ah 00:21:20 PleasingFungus: i might implement that perma-buff thing 00:21:50 how do you tag a monster? 00:22:15 ? 00:22:26 -!- G-Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:22:28 spell_hd was originally introduced with demonspawn enemies 00:22:29 mon.props[SOME_STRING_CONSTANT] = true 00:22:37 oh nice, they have props 00:22:43 %git 5cd3e4e3e 00:22:43 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0-2075-g5cd3e4e: Augmentation for torturous demonspawn. 10(2 years, 1 month ago, 4 files, 104+ 64-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5cd3e4e3e1d9 00:22:44 ya 00:22:54 Grunt: it was before I joined the dev team, so! 00:23:03 forever for you then 00:23:04 <.< 00:23:05 aha, I see you used this to added support for allied doom hounds 00:23:21 -!- MBlaureNs__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:24:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:24:19 remind me 00:24:51 i just saw mon.props[DOOM_HOWLED] which seems like it means a monster could be doom howled 00:25:02 it's whether or not it's howled yet 00:25:09 sorry 00:25:14 english is ambiguous here 00:25:28 aw 00:25:35 !send PleasingFungus ambiguity 00:25:35 Sending ambiguity to PleasingFungus. 00:26:08 !lg genzel d:6 cv~0.11 00:26:08 Broken query near '~0.11' 00:26:10 !lg genzel d:6 cv~~0.11 00:26:11 3. Genzel the Ruffian (L7 TrAM), slain by Edmund (a +0,+0 dire flail) on D:6 on 2015-12-21 18:18:12, with 910 points after 3081 turns and 0:22:15. 00:27:22 !lg * cv~~0.11 year>=2016 00:27:23 Unknown field: year 00:27:24 hm 00:27:29 sometimes when i write code now it works first try 00:27:30 !lg * cv~~0.11 x=date 00:27:30 Unknown field: date 00:27:33 !lg * cv~~0.11 x=time 00:27:34 Unknown field: time 00:27:38 owned. 00:27:52 chequers: this is a trick. do not lower your guard!!! 00:28:29 PleasingFungus: actually it didn't happen this time. I said it and the build immediately broke 00:28:31 -!- molotove has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:28:34 haha 00:28:39 good 00:29:23 where would a variable for godwrath and mon-ench go? I put it in godabil.h but that's a new include for mon-ench 00:29:43 why not 00:29:45 mon-ench.h 00:30:00 guess so 00:30:03 chequers: stuff2.cc 00:30:03 ontoclasm: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:30:07 !messages 00:30:07 (1/1) chequers said (1d 3h 1m 50s ago): hey it's me your friend 00:30:15 you seemed sad you had no messages 00:30:25 thanks 00:30:29 np 00:30:30 i feel validated 00:30:42 !tell ontoclasm ontoclasm: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:30:42 Grunt: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 00:30:46 !tell chequers No messages for ontoclasm. 00:30:47 Grunt: OK, I'll let chequers know. 00:30:51 heh. gozag can send spellcasters berserk 00:30:51 chequers: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:30:52 !tell Grunt Grunt: OK, I'll let Grunt now. 00:30:53 Grunt: OK, I'll let grunt know. 00:30:53 thanks gozag! 00:30:59 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:31:00 what's the tag 00:31:04 @??deep elf annihilator 00:31:05 deep elf annihilator (12e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 56-81 | AC/EV: 1/12 | Dam: 12 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(120) | XP: 1261 | Sp: b.lightning (3d20), crystal spear (3d34), blink, iron shot (3d28), poison arrow (3d22) | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:31:25 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:31:25 maybe try to be picky based on m_spellcaster and m_fighter tags? 00:31:38 you can just see if the mon has spells right 00:31:43 well 00:31:47 berserk is a spell 00:31:51 for e.g. bears 00:31:55 check to see if a spell slot has M_WIZARD maybe 00:32:00 we have a helper function for that, I think? 00:32:03 has_wizard_spells? 00:32:10 oh, is_actual_spellcaster maybe? 00:32:28 gozag sends the eye of devastation berserk 00:32:30 (since M_SPELLCASTER no longer exists) 00:32:33 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 00:32:44 thanks, gretell 00:32:58 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 00:32:59 PleasingFungus: i'm willing to let that corner case go unfixed 00:33:11 I don't think ti's a corner case 00:33:18 dragons have spells 00:33:30 probably more monsters have spells than not? 00:33:40 ah, yeah 00:33:50 i guess Grunt's suggestion is good, without checking what it actually does 00:34:01 hm, I think we can nuance that a bit more 00:34:07 !source is_actual_spellcaster 00:34:08 1/2. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-info.h#l343 00:34:08 I know we have code for checking if a monster wants to go berserk or not 00:34:13 let me find it 00:34:13 yeah, I was gonna say 00:34:20 seems like it'd come up with POT_BERSERK 00:34:24 mon::can_go_berserk ? 00:34:36 ah, ::needs_berserk 00:34:53 the real question is where's the player gold mesmerizing 00:34:55 that check is: anything that isn't a natural ability or Berserk itself 00:35:14 there are some other checks in that function, but that's the spell bit 00:35:23 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:35:26 cool 00:35:30 sounds suitable? 00:35:38 !source needs_berserk 00:35:38 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/monster.cc#l5199 00:35:55 possibly add another parameter, or extract the spell check into its own function 00:35:57 everything except for foe_distance seems reasonable 00:35:59 imo 00:36:03 yes 00:36:21 yeah, i'll add a param to ignore_distance ? 00:36:30 sounds like the best option 00:36:36 or rather check_distance is probably a better name 00:37:05 and rename to wants_berserk? 00:37:14 o_O 00:37:40 oh, PleasingFungus, the hexer ancestor is awesome and don't let anyone tell you otherwise 00:37:47 haha 00:38:01 unlike what certain lasties would have me think, you mean? 00:38:06 haha 00:38:06 yes 00:38:08 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:38:38 englaciation is cool enough that i have considered that i may be foolish for never bothering to cast it on my own hexer type dudes 00:39:08 AMEN PROZACELF 00:39:38 i kind of wish there was something neater than petrify to stick in between confuse and ME 00:39:46 but i can't think of anything 00:39:54 cause fear would just be super annoying 00:39:59 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 00:40:02 and tukima would be too limited in scope 00:40:08 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 00:40:13 para was the other possibiilty 00:41:14 probably too powerful 00:41:20 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 00:41:50 weak also has its limits but would be strong! on the other hand there's nothing as a comparison point compared to player spells 00:42:35 seemed a little straightforwardly good ya 00:43:04 idk 00:46:16 -!- eb_ has quit [] 00:46:41 hm 00:46:48 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:47:21 Grunt: do you know how I'd check the number of values passed into l_dgn.cc:dgn_terrain_changed() 00:47:48 -!- Abadox has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:48:23 https://github.com/alexjurkiewicz/crawl-ref/commits/gozag-wrath-upgrade?author=alexjurkiewicz 00:48:27 opinions? 00:48:30 as in, number of arguments you're passing into it? 00:48:35 let me remind myself 00:48:55 lua_gettop(ls) 00:49:31 ok 00:49:35 for reference, I'm trying to fix, uh 00:49:47 !bug 10308 00:49:48 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10308 00:49:50 which I caused 00:50:13 %git e26f609298c1de4d6f6186d36b033817efbf90d2 00:50:13 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-1469-ge26f609: Remove two dungeon_terrain_changed params 10(2 days ago, 29 files, 57+ 63-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e26f609298c1 00:50:15 ^ with this 00:50:28 chequers: makes me... mad.... 00:50:50 chequers: this is gonna be reported as a bug 00:51:00 ? 00:51:08 -!- lnt has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:51:08 since you give no hints to the player that the buffs are special or permanent 00:51:08 you chequers 00:51:10 ah 00:51:13 you are going to be reported as a bug 00:51:16 ah 00:51:20 heh 00:51:20 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:51:24 we are all skittering insects. 00:51:27 -!- regret-index has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:51:30 I could add an enchantment "incited by gozag", I suppose 00:51:43 !commit remove chequers 00:51:43 03ProzacElf * 0.18-a0-1566-g8247da5: remove chequers 10(in the future, 20 files, 971+ 495-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8247da5 00:52:09 =p 00:53:12 !commitby chequers remove ProzacElf 00:53:13 03chequers * 0.18-a0-1567-g6162840: remove ProzacElf 10(in the future, 20 files, 310+ 301-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6162840 00:53:18 chequers! how could you! 00:53:26 sorry, slow on the respose there 00:53:49 aiiiieeeee 00:53:49 is there a way to make a fake enchantment that just shows a message in the enchantment area? or do I have to make a whole heavyweight enchantment for this 00:53:55 noooooo 00:54:39 ProzacElf: if either of us becomes a dev in future, their pending commit will be accepted and the other person will simply vanish as if they never existed 00:54:53 ahh 00:55:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 00:55:11 ah 00:55:19 PleasingFungus: 00:55:23 !source dat/dlua/lm_timed.lua:73 00:55:24 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/dlua/lm_timed.lua#l73 00:55:29 this is the cause of your woe 00:55:32 ack!!! 00:55:33 ᛟ 00:55:40 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 00:55:40 on the topic of gozag and statuses... is it possible to show the gozag gold buff as a status like 'Gold (4)'? 00:55:40 people were telling me that the function call was marshalled 00:55:44 or some weird lua shit like that 00:55:45 false 00:55:53 !blame2 wheals 00:55:53 wwwhhheeeaaalllsss 00:56:04 Grunt: tyvm for hunting that down! 00:56:06 generally if Lua is complaining about a bad argument, you are passing it a bad argument somewhere :) 00:56:44 -!- FireSight has quit [] 00:56:52 probably: remove affect_player from disappear there and from the call at the end of timeout 00:56:59 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 00:57:08 (I think the *argument* of :timeout is part of some other API) 00:57:23 insite a monter::foo function, how do I access like the monster's ::has_ench method? 00:57:27 is it just has_ench ? 00:57:31 chequers: yes 00:57:33 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 00:57:45 cool 00:58:36 -!- G-Flex has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:58:47 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 00:59:50 Grunt: as far as I can tell, it was specifically called by TimedMarker:timeout 01:00:20 er 01:00:28 TimedMarker:event 01:00:31 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:32 which always passes true 01:00:42 ah 01:00:44 !shrug 01:00:44 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 01:00:49 anyway, this works when I tested it 01:00:52 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1487-g13b51b8: Fix timed portals (10308) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/13b51b8250a3 01:01:00 sleuthing success... 01:01:17 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1487-g13b51b8: Fix timed portals (10308) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/13b51b8250a3 01:01:28 hardest part of this bug was getting a timed portal to generate so I could repro it 01:01:34 (and that wasn't super hard) 01:01:45 hark! 01:01:59 :P 01:02:01 oh 01:02:06 ? 01:02:15 since you were the one who reversed this in the first place 01:02:19 ?? 01:02:30 ?? ? ? 01:02:30 I don't have a page labeled ?_? in my learndb. 01:02:30 %git betterwater 01:02:31 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-1472-g63f80f0: Let flooding affect all walkable terrain 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/63f80f0df2e4 01:02:40 ah 01:02:40 well 01:03:00 I had been under the impression that it was prohibited for technical reasons, but maybe not? 01:03:09 the reason we originally introduced that is because it had extremely wonky interactions with stairs 01:03:50 I no longer remember the details 01:04:42 anyway I'm going to sleep 01:04:52 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1486-g60b4ee2 (34) 01:05:00 ahh 01:05:02 good night! 01:05:06 sounds like it was technical, then 01:07:34 -!- crate_ is now known as crate 01:11:00 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1488-g3180e67: Let flooding affect all walkable terrain 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3180e6704de2 01:11:30 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1488-g3180e67: Let flooding affect all walkable terrain 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3180e6704de2 01:11:48 someone will be in to shout at me soon enough if this is a mistake 01:12:12 BLAAAARGH 01:12:31 didn't chei used to show the branch 01:12:38 for commits not in master 01:13:49 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 01:16:06 <|amethys1> PleasingFungus: the bug that caused it to be closed wasn't technical exactly 01:16:11 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:16:22 hm, st 01:17:06 <|amethys1> PleasingFungus: it was player confusion about the stairs disappearing 01:17:16 ahh 01:17:20 right, I did see mention of that 01:17:29 you cracked jokes about adding layers of liquid to everything 01:17:39 <|amethys1> PleasingFungus: and I guess probably the question arose, "do we want nymphs to work like vault wardens" 01:17:56 <|amethys1> PleasingFungus: that wasn't 100% a joke 01:18:08 well, vault wardens lock shit from across the screen 01:18:34 <|amethys1> It might not be worth the pain to actually do it, but being able to have water on top of other features wouldn't be terrible 01:18:46 v0v 01:19:02 <|amethys1> (FR: a god whose altar counts as watery terrain) 01:19:08 <|amethys1> !bug 8078 01:19:08 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8078 01:19:23 <|amethys1> ^ that's the bug that led to stair drowning being disabled 01:19:29 <|amethys1> s/bug/report/ 01:20:02 what if 01:20:09 we printed a message when 'interesting' features got drowned 01:20:27 The waves cover the %s. 01:20:36 (that is, not shallow water or floor, I guess) 01:21:00 <|amethys1> that would probably help with the user confusion 01:21:06 <|amethys1> oh, I just thought of something 01:21:30 <|amethys1> oh, nm, you used feat_has_solid_floor, good 01:21:47 <|amethys1> I was concerned about water covering up lava :) 01:22:18 <|amethys1> granted, covering upstairs is a little weird, but then so is the very existance of Shoals 01:22:19 hm, maybe something that makes it clear the nymph is involved 01:22:25 stairs are always and forever weird 01:22:30 with or without shoals 01:23:03 not to be confused with floor_has_solid_feet 01:23:15 watery aura slowly engulfs the . 01:23:20 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 01:25:51 i'm imagining nypmhs just moving aorund in this sort of watery gelatinous cube 01:26:12 awesome 01:28:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:30:23 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 01:30:35 really, isn't the dungeon as a whole just sort of a watery cube? 01:31:14 deep 01:31:40 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 01:31:52 -!- onmyo is now known as dark_star 01:32:01 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:33:36 it's a metaphor for life 01:34:19 -!- G-Flex has quit [Quit: Time for us to bug out.] 01:34:22 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:35:20 life is a watery cube, then you die? 01:37:28 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1489-g10dd99b: Message when nymphs drown notable features 10(52 seconds ago, 1 file, 9+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/10dd99b8fdfd 01:37:44 exceptionally high include::loc ratio here 01:39:27 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 01:41:20 -!- Ultraviolent4 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:42:00 yes 01:42:10 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1489-g10dd99b: Message when nymphs drown notable features 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/10dd99b8fdfd 01:42:15 life is a watery cube, and then you fall out 01:42:17 and try up 01:42:22 inspire 01:42:41 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Goin ta sleep] 01:43:18 #jesus 01:43:24 thoughts: maybe it should be possible to tell what's beneath a temp feature 01:43:46 here: shallow water (covering a set of stairs leading upward). 01:48:13 could you make it look like the vault warden? 01:48:16 just like, a blue cross? 01:48:36 health insurance 01:49:19 so I added an enchantment "incited by gozag" and a corresponding MB mapping / description 01:49:26 but monsters don't seem to get this enchantment 01:51:42 chequers: those are separate features, iirc 01:51:54 let me look again 01:52:17 yes 01:52:27 yeah, so the monster is definitely incited 01:52:27 Not decrementing haste/berserk because the monster is incited. x5 01:52:27 there are three separate features for sealed doors, up stairs, and down stairs 01:52:33 oh, crossed wires 01:53:14 probably not practical to add a separate feature for "flooded up stairs", "flooded down stairs", "flooded shops", ... unless we actually limited it to just those three, I guess 01:54:14 flooded sealed down stairs 01:55:24 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:55:38 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:55:39 doh, got it 01:55:55 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:56:11 idk, i'm almost tempted now 01:56:18 stairs and shops cover like 99% of the practical problem cases 01:56:22 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:56:23 remove fountains 01:56:31 that would fix the other 1% 01:56:40 hm 01:56:45 oh, i guess trap doors 01:56:48 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 01:56:52 yeahh, ok 01:57:34 just add more eels 01:57:39 the problem will fix itsellf 01:57:42 -l 01:57:55 +1 what ProzacElf said 01:57:57 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest69401 01:58:03 eels and snakes, surefire fix for nearly anything 01:58:16 heh 02:00:10 hm 02:00:24 thinking about making passwall use spell range instead of randomly rolling per-cast 02:00:31 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:02:22 -!- Guest69401 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:02:32 would be strange if darkness reduced passwall's range 02:02:38 New branch created: pull/243 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/243 02:02:38 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/243 * 0.18-a0-1485-g538c8ca: Rework Gozag incite. 10(19 hours ago, 7 files, 29+ 31-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/538c8cadee60 02:03:00 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:03:02 New branch created: pull/243 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/243 02:03:02 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/243 * 0.18-a0-1485-g538c8ca: Rework Gozag incite. 10(19 hours ago, 7 files, 29+ 31-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/538c8cadee60 02:05:53 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:06:18 -!- Idolo has quit [] 02:07:48 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0.2/20160210153822]] 02:08:44 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 02:08:45 The build has errored. (master - 13b51b8 #4961 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/113324510 02:08:45 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 02:11:39 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:11:51 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:13:08 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 02:14:18 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:23:30 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1490-g504aa14: Simplify Passwall 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 3+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/504aa1434057 02:24:15 oh god thank you 02:24:15 minmay: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 02:24:19 !messages 02:24:19 (1/1) gammafunk said (2d 6h 49m 25s ago): njvack said I should apologize to duvessa for editing those posts, so I'm going to be humble and give this a try: ....fuck you! 02:24:44 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:25:06 !tell gammafunk apology accepted 02:25:07 minmay: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 02:28:18 haha 02:28:28 didn't expect that kind of reaction 02:28:33 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1490-g504aa14: Simplify Passwall 10(7 minutes ago, 2 files, 3+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/504aa1434057 02:28:41 what if this ruins passwall's carefully cultivated balance? 02:30:35 -!- Ayey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:33:15 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:33:30 heh, the carefully cultivated balance of "90% of players never use it" 02:34:58 -!- voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:38:54 :P 02:39:03 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:41:14 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0.2/20160210153822]] 02:49:46 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:52:26 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 02:57:38 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:58:42 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest80616 03:00:03 -!- Atomikkrab has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:00:31 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:01:32 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 03:02:01 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 03:02:02 The build has errored. (master - 3180e67 #4962 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/113325499 03:02:02 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 03:02:38 -!- Guest80616 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:08:53 -!- Adeon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:15:46 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 03:15:46 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please. 03:15:47 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! Type ??servers for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic 03:26:03 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:30:01 -!- inre has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:31:00 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:31:33 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:33:47 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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(master - 504aa14 #4965 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/113333286 05:39:52 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 05:43:45 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 05:45:11 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest41996 05:49:40 -!- Guest41996 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:51:04 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:52:32 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 05:57:37 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 06:00:30 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:32 does the dev team uses github issues or mantis still ? 06:01:50 stupid question issue are no enabled on the github repo 06:08:14 -!- TAS_2012v has joined ##crawl-dev 06:09:57 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:21:06 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:27:29 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:32:23 -!- Hiffwe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:32:26 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 06:37:31 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 06:42:08 Removed monster placed 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10309 by jejorda2 06:43:01 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 06:43:02 I see that monsters no longer pickup from seen stacks 06:43:04 what a shame 06:43:37 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:44:01 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest51995 06:45:20 Removed monster placed 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10309 by jejorda2 06:45:35 -!- TAS_2012v has joined ##crawl-dev 06:48:20 -!- Guest51995 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:51:44 I wonder if you could, theoretically speaking, get a perma-zerking orc with gozag wrath 06:52:09 by the orc joining you after zerking 06:52:51 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:58:49 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:59:22 -!- koboldina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:00:30 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:00:53 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 07:05:50 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:06:51 -!- TAS_2012v has joined ##crawl-dev 07:07:01 -!- bgiannan has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5-dev] 07:08:20 -!- Ayey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:09:18 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 07:13:54 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 07:16:21 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:22:49 is https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:interface:interface_implementables up to date ? 07:26:41 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 07:27:53 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 07:29:16 -!- debo__ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:30:40 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 07:33:44 -!- debo__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:33:57 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:36:03 -!- MBlaureNs__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:37:09 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1491-ga1dd5f1: Fix rat type (#10309). 10(35 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a1dd5f154efa 07:41:36 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1491-ga1dd5f1: Fix rat type (#10309). 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a1dd5f154efa 07:45:56 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest65670 07:50:01 -!- Guest65670 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:53:03 -!- johnny0_ is now known as johnny0 08:00:31 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:02:07 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:09:43 i built crawl under cygwin without any issue (except for sqlite https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9528), the build runs fine except i don't have a cursor when i want to travel (X) or look at something 08:10:01 any idea why ? 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Use !messages to read it. 10:59:20 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 10:59:23 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:00:31 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:47 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 11:02:23 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest18702 11:03:27 !lg * shoals recent s=ikiller 11:03:28 4874 games for * (shoals recent): 507x a water nymph, 450x a merfolk impaler, 410x a merfolk, 407x a merfolk aquamancer, 391x a merfolk javelineer, 269x Polyphemus, 266x a kraken, 200x a satyr, 178x an alligator snapping turtle, 165x a merfolk avatar, 162x a harpy, 149x a snapping turtle, 149x, 126x a sea snake, 121x a water elemental, 117x Ilsuiw, 85x a manticore, 75x Nikola, 65x a faun, 58x an o... 11:03:34 huh. 11:03:40 @??water nymph 11:03:40 water nymph (06m) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 43-59 | AC/EV: 4/13 | Dam: 1212(drown) | amphibious, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(100), 12drown | XP: 522 | Sp: waterstrike | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 11:04:41 @??merfolk aquamancer 11:04:41 merfolk aquamancer (03m) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 14 | HP: 51-72 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 15 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, amphibious, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(80), 12drown | XP: 909 | Sp: primal wave (3d20), steam ball (3d18), throw icicle (3d23), blink [04emergency] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 11:06:00 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:07:00 -!- Guest18702 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:07:27 PleasingFungus, any idea about my cursor issue ? Also, I'd like to help crawl dev if possible, could you point me to some easy enough issue i could try to fix for starter ? 11:07:46 no idea re the cursor, sorry 11:08:54 you could take a look at some or all of https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10282 , or just poke around https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view_all_bug_page.php and see if you can find something interesting 11:09:13 oh, https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10307 probably wouldn't be too bad 11:10:37 thx, i'll try :) 11:11:16 i'll try building on my mac, maybe i won't get the cursor issue, cygwin always get me strange bugs 11:12:04 bgiannan, I would guess cygwin's ncurses doesn't translate the cursor on/off stuff right 11:12:19 (windows doesn't use escape sequences natively, it uses the equivalent of ioctl()) 11:14:17 geekosaur, maybe yeah 11:15:55 !lg * shoals max=dam x=dam 11:15:56 12810. [dam=131] Serge the Bewitcher (L22 SpEn of Nemelex Xobeh), killed themselves with bad targeting on Shoals:3 on 2011-03-30 02:28:07, with 324775 points after 81303 turns and 6:47:52. 11:16:00 lol 11:16:16 !lg * shoals killer="water nymph" s=avg(dam) 11:16:17 ERROR: aggregate functions are not allowed in GROUP BY 11:16:26 !lg * shoals killer="water nymph" x=avg(dam) 11:16:26 900 games for * (shoals killer='water nymph'): avg(dam)=22.97 11:16:33 !lg * shoals x=avg(dam) 11:16:34 12810 games for * (shoals): avg(dam)=-297.41 11:16:37 hm 11:16:42 !lg * recent shoals x=avg(dam) 11:16:43 4875 games for * (recent shoals): avg(dam)=-217.17 11:16:45 hmm 11:17:05 !lg * recent shoals killer~~impaler x=avg(dam) 11:17:06 455 games for * (recent shoals killer~~impaler): avg(dam)=12.87 11:18:32 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1492-g2b1448d: Waterstrike technical tweaks 10(35 seconds ago, 2 files, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2b1448d63221 11:19:26 try !boring for the avg 11:19:34 !kw water 11:19:35 No keyword 'water' 11:19:38 !kw drowning 11:19:39 No keyword 'drowning' 11:20:03 !lg * recent shoals x=avg(dam) !boring 11:20:04 4782 games for * (recent shoals !boring): avg(dam)=-26.93 11:20:07 nope 11:20:11 -27 damage 11:20:19 !lg * recent shoals dam<0 11:20:20 115. OrcishSettler the Severer (L18 HOFi of Beogh), quit the game on Shoals:4 on 2016-03-03 00:36:10, with 206812 points after 52765 turns and 4:03:57. 11:20:23 !lg * recent shoals dam<0 !boring 11:20:24 22. kroki the Tortoise (L20 MiBe of Trog), drowned on Shoals:1 on 2016-02-10 01:05:34, with 279980 points after 47171 turns and 0:56:55. 11:20:36 !lg * recent shoals dam<0 !boring x=dam 11:20:36 !lg * recent shoals dam<0 !boring x=ktyp 11:20:37 22. [dam=-9999] kroki the Tortoise (L20 MiBe of Trog), drowned on Shoals:1 on 2016-02-10 01:05:34, with 279980 points after 47171 turns and 0:56:55. 11:20:38 22. [ktyp=water] kroki the Tortoise (L20 MiBe of Trog), drowned on Shoals:1 on 2016-02-10 01:05:34, with 279980 points after 47171 turns and 0:56:55. 11:20:40 huh 11:20:46 !lg * recent shoals dam<0 !boring ktyp!=water 11:20:47 No games for * (recent shoals dam<0 !boring ktyp!=water). 11:20:53 !lg * recent shoals !boring ktyp!=water x=avg(dam) 11:20:54 4437 games for * (recent shoals !boring ktyp!=water): avg(dam)=19.72 11:21:05 my feeling is that we might want to nerf water nymphs 11:21:41 they're the nastiest monster in probably the nastiest lair branch; they should probably either be OODs or tweaked down a bit, and I like them being pervasive common enemies 11:21:46 they're very distinctive 11:21:57 i'm undecided wrt nerfing their defenses or their offense, though 11:22:06 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1492-g2b1448d: Waterstrike technical tweaks 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2b1448d63221 11:27:44 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:28:25 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0.2/20160210153822]] 11:28:35 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 11:34:26 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:36:30 -!- tealeaves has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:37:32 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:44:33 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:57:58 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:59:15 -!- halv has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:00:31 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:02:14 -!- shinino_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:04:02 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:09:58 [03 17:06] You climb downwards. Lua error: /crawl-master/crawl-git-189885cc8b/data/dat/des/branches/lair.des:1077: unknown monster: "green rat" x25 12:10:11 sounds like an old vault hasn't been updated 12:10:40 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1492-g2b1448d (34) 12:11:04 -!- voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:12:10 -!- voker57 has quit [Changing host] 12:13:03 nm 12:13:13 %git HEAD^ 12:13:13 07wheals02 * 0.18-a0-1491-ga1dd5f1: Fix rat type (#10309). 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a1dd5f154efa 12:15:26 -!- buki_ is now known as buki 12:15:42 -!- Piginabag has joined ##crawl-dev 12:15:56 how do you turn off the warning prompt when you fall into shallow water? it's incredibly annoying 12:16:10 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:16:31 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:16:39 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:18:19 Lamp of fire crash 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10310 by sowus 12:19:59 Lamp of fire crash 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10310 by sowus 12:21:28 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 12:24:32 Piginabag: please clarify 12:25:32 -!- Etesian has quit [Client Quit] 12:25:56 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 12:26:14 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:27:29 every time you fall into shallow water there is a "you fall into shallow water" prompt which you have to hit enter to get past. I think its new in trunk 12:31:22 -!- Ayey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:37:22 got it 12:37:28 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1493-g60c2990: Fix a false positive force_more_message (Piginabag). 10(19 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/60c299062f6d 12:37:50 for now, you can add `force_more_message -= You fall into the 12:37:50 ` to your rcfile 12:38:02 without that linebreak 12:38:41 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1493-g60c2990: Fix a false positive force_more_message (Piginabag). 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/60c299062f6d 12:39:22 swiggity, thanks 12:40:51 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:48:08 -!- cmcbot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:48:12 -!- fiyawerx_ is now known as fiyawerx 12:50:34 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:51:21 -!- halv|2 has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 12:55:33 -!- WorkSight has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:55:58 -!- SurpriseTRex_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:00:32 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:03:09 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest12074 13:04:00 -!- sf_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:04:18 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:04:45 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:07:04 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:07:37 -!- Guest12074 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:14:02 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0.2/20160210153822]] 13:16:15 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:21:04 -!- cang has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:28:12 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:28:59 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:28:59 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:32:19 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:37:30 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:40:36 -!- MBlaureNs__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:52:25 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:54:11 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:54:31 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:37 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:40 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:05:10 why do we need a --more-- for falling into lava? doesn't the player just die next? 14:05:22 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:06:04 i wasn't sure 14:06:14 i guess to rub it in your face 14:07:25 more significant when scrambling existed i imagine 14:09:14 -!- MgDark_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:11:25 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:11:45 -!- WebFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:11:53 oh, that makes sense. I was assuming it was something about letting you see what happened when you died 14:12:03 but I guess there's probably another more for your actual death 14:21:20 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 14:25:23 -!- IceBlind has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:26:55 -!- WebFungus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:27:12 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:28:24 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:30:37 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:08 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest95485 14:34:33 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:38:06 -!- Guest95485 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:46:30 -!- cang has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:49:15 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:57:37 -!- owl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:00:32 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:03:15 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:04:48 -!- owl has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:56 -!- cang has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:15:57 -!- grimmulfr has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:18:11 -!- halv has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 15:21:42 -!- giann has joined ##crawl-dev 15:35:27 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:39:45 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 15:40:03 -!- voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:41:30 -!- Galewind has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:43:20 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:48:59 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:54:24 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:56:32 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:56:51 ?Random Uselessness: New sounds and smells 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10311 by Skrybe 15:58:11 ?Random Uselessness: New sounds and smells 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10311 by Skrybe 15:58:23 mm 16:00:33 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:04:23 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:08:25 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 16:10:23 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:19:30 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1494-g21fd751: Make water nymphs more fragile 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/21fd751387e1 16:20:13 -!- sorash has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:21:40 ??waterstrike 16:21:40 waterstrike[1/1]: 3d19 smite targetted AC-applicable damage only for targets in/above water. 16:22:00 wrong, actually 16:22:21 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1494-g21fd751: Make water nymphs more fragile 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/21fd751387e1 16:23:13 ah, but it was right a long time ago 16:23:19 !learn e waterstrike s/9/7/ 16:23:20 waterstrike[1/1]: 3d17 smite targetted AC-applicable damage only for targets in/above water. 16:26:44 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:30:49 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:33:34 -!- StarButterfly has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:34:02 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:34:34 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:35:24 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest68464 16:39:59 Qier the pandemonium lord 16:39:59 -!- Guest68464 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:40:33 pronounced 'choir' <_< 16:40:58 Ah yes, of course. Also, wrong chat. Woops 16:41:04 :P 16:41:06 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:41:15 did we ever kill your stupid zig character 16:41:37 Just like Dick the pandemonium lord is pronounced... ah.. the "D" is silent. 16:42:01 nope, I'm still blasting irreverently through zigs 16:42:07 it's the german version, pronounced 'ditch' 16:42:13 hm 16:42:29 I think the gold distraction nerf was half-assed 16:42:31 you have slowed me down considerably with the "one zig shape per game" fix. also the gozag nerf. also the monster set change 16:42:39 no stop changing things 16:42:41 haha 16:42:45 sure 16:42:48 everything is fine and happy 16:42:51 plenty else to do 16:43:00 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:43:03 monster set change? 16:43:16 what zig shape did you get stuck with 16:44:13 there is a scaling difficulty to monster distribution in zigs now. all of my ziggurats were diamond shaped which is hardly half as large as the other two shapes 16:44:21 so now I'm getting round and square which take much longer to clear 16:44:30 ah 16:44:50 I think I got the ball one in my one zig I did myself 16:45:09 Piginabag: as for scaling difficulty, hasn't that been the case since like 0.16? 16:45:23 up to the 14th 16:45:25 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:45:30 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 16:45:31 you're thinking of density. the actual monsters that spawn are different now 16:45:36 ah 16:45:38 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1495-g3ea706f: Intensify Doom Howl 10(35 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3ea706f9745d 16:45:46 interesting 16:45:52 look at some of the screenshots in this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/48bp9q/update_on_the_currently_128_zigs_cleared/ 16:46:05 FIQ: i'm pretty sure you got confused about the 'seen stack pickup' change, too 16:46:28 vault floors become lich/gold dragon/titan. shoals becomes all water nymphs and aquamancers. way more orbs of fire on fire floors. orc floors become jugernaut floors 16:47:22 This change has been in the works for a while, but it's possible that my abuse of ziggurats was a catalyst to get the commit pushed into trunk. 16:47:25 Piginabag....... 16:47:35 ayy lmao 16:47:42 you so vain, boy 16:47:43 its merely speculation is all 16:48:27 it seemed awfully coincidental 16:49:08 we specifically told you that it was not about you 16:49:12 and specifically told you which changes *were* about you 16:49:15 or in response to you, anyway 16:49:20 ^ 16:49:23 you goofin'. 16:49:31 do I commit seppuku now 16:49:56 no. instead, I will curse you the most terrible curse imaginable: 16:50:00 doing literally over a hundred zigs 16:50:01 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:50:08 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1495-g3ea706f: Intensify Doom Howl 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3ea706f9745d 16:50:39 I just edited the post, is that better 16:50:47 :P 16:50:49 rescaling stuff like that happens fairly often in an ongoing process, and while there can indeed be triggers they're usually of the form "oh I need to touch such-and-such, might as well do this at the same time" 16:51:08 if the post wasn't three days old, could get some good conspiracy chat from that edit 16:51:10 pity 16:52:29 it's been years afaik since there have been any major zig changes. it was quite noticeable to me because of the nonsense I had been doing 16:52:53 um 16:53:16 are you going to pull out a list of major zig changes now 16:53:29 <_< 16:53:34 do you want me not to 16:53:39 please don't 16:53:48 did you even finish that game yet 16:53:49 easy enough to do... they happen. they may not be noticed... 16:53:53 or did you finally ascend/quit/die 16:54:05 he's unstoppable 16:54:09 no, he is still there. in limbo. slogging forever forward 16:54:20 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:54:31 to be fair I have come very close to dying several times in the past few days and have stopped playing as much because of that 16:54:48 sounds like an okay place for balance 16:55:18 silence floors. and iron giants, aw geez.. 16:56:50 now I'm imagining silencing iron giants 16:56:50 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:57:01 -!- Crawl_Bacchus has quit [Quit: Look what I got, Bart, a Tickle-Me Krusty doll!] 16:57:16 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 16:58:16 iron giants are already completely ridiculous on their own. they really don't need anything else 16:58:57 @??iron giant name:silence_giant n_rpl spells:silence.200.wizard 16:58:57 silence giant (10C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 22 | HP: 176-253 | AC/EV: 18/2 | Dam: 75 | 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(120), 05fire, 02cold, 03poison, 12drown | XP: 5261 | Sp: silence | Sz: Giant | Int: human. 16:59:17 ??throw 16:59:17 throw ~ throwing[1/2]: Throw stones, tomahawks, javelins, large rocks at target to kill them. See {blowgun} for the skill's effect on needles. See {ammunition} for the base damage of various throwing items. 16:59:22 ??throw[2 16:59:22 throw ~ throwing[2/2]: Every 5 levels of throwing skill lowers the delay by 1 time unit. 16:59:25 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1496-g27d3123: Improve omnireflect/AUTOMATIC_HIT interactions 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/27d312378e2b 16:59:39 would be a little silly for them to silence themselves 16:59:44 iron shot is a wizard spell, probably 16:59:44 did you see that guy complaining about iron giants on reddit last night? https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/48outr/iron_giant_overtuned_worse_than_caustic_shrikes/ 17:00:11 hm, did I see a post on reddit? let me think 17:00:13 @??iron giant 17:00:13 iron giant (10C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 22 | HP: 176-253 | AC/EV: 18/2 | Dam: 75 | 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(120), 05fire, 02cold, 03poison, 12drown | XP: 5546 | Sp: iron shot (3d37), throw [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int: human. 17:00:24 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1496-g27d3123: Improve omnireflect/AUTOMATIC_HIT interactions 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/27d312378e2b 17:00:28 that is actually funny because I read the title and was like "YES. Yes they are" but then read his post and he died in the most avoidable way possible 17:00:29 paraphrased: this monster needs a nerf: i hadn't seen him before, but i was at half health so i decided to tab it. i had to run away and come back six times, and eventually it killed me 17:00:32 -!- voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:00:32 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:59 yeah 17:01:09 with caustic shrikes he would have died because he couldn't have walked away 17:01:17 well, died faster 17:01:27 I'm a little concerned with the fact that they can back to back throw you from giant to giant if they get lucky. but er... the way he played was more advocating for them being in a good place 17:01:43 I would have thought he died much quicker than he did 17:03:26 ....and he was under trog wrath on top of it all 17:03:59 clearly you should respect him more 17:04:01 secret powerful gamer 17:05:35 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:06:20 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1631-g9c2f64c: Merge branch 'master' into combo_god 10(14 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9c2f64c14242 17:07:23 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest2619 17:07:26 nerf DD 17:08:05 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:08:08 i do think chain throwing could use a fix. it didn't happen with opc, because they had to constrict you before throwing 17:10:36 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1631-g9c2f64c: Merge branch 'master' into combo_god 10(5 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9c2f64c14242 17:12:42 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1632-gacad1eb: Fix some transfer failure cases (Lasty) 10(17 seconds ago, 1 file, 9+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/acad1ebfb3ed 17:15:33 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:16:36 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1632-gacad1eb: Fix some transfer failure cases (Lasty) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/acad1ebfb3ed 17:17:44 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 17:18:15 -!- Guest2619 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:18:38 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:19:04 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:22:22 smells like victory 17:22:41 wheals: gonna merge the ?useless patch? 17:22:43 such as it is 17:22:54 you can if you'd like 17:23:51 [howl intensifies] 17:24:26 hahaha 17:24:30 time for some millimarvins 17:24:36 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1633-g78497ff: Remove deathswap effects 10(88 seconds ago, 10 files, 3+ 363-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/78497ff4ec98 17:24:47 hm, chei woke up 17:25:53 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:26:49 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1633-g78497ff: Remove deathswap effects 10(4 minutes ago, 10 files, 3+ 363-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/78497ff4ec98 17:26:50 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 17:27:47 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:29:36 -!- vev_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:29:53 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 17:35:22 -!- WorkSight has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:35:25 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1634-gf072a91: Swap Transference and Romanticise 10(2 minutes ago, 3 files, 10+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f072a91375f0 17:35:54 -!- AnFair has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:37:02 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1634-gf072a91: Swap Transference and Romanticise 10(4 minutes ago, 3 files, 10+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f072a91375f0 17:38:12 ? 17:41:08 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:42:02 ? 17:43:50 :O 17:43:51 ! 17:44:04 -!- IceBlind has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:44:37 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1635-g6e23df3: Romanticise - Idealise 10(44 seconds ago, 11 files, 14+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6e23df39f301 17:45:43 rip romance options 17:45:58 haha 17:46:03 and right afte rI added gender customization, too! 17:46:20 heh 17:46:37 rI? 17:46:55 after I 17:47:15 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1635-g6e23df3: Romanticise - Idealise 10(3 minutes ago, 11 files, 14+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6e23df39f301 17:47:26 oh i c 17:50:25 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:52:02 so how is Idealise going to be buffed 17:52:15 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest22355 17:52:19 also what ?useless patch 17:52:37 !bug 10311 17:52:37 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10311 17:53:09 -!- Weretaco has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:53:13 isn't ?useless not even useless since it sometimes produces butterflies around you 17:54:01 it's almost useless. 17:55:58 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:56:58 it's uselessly random 17:57:37 Lua Error 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10312 by spanner 17:57:48 -!- the_glow1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:57:53 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:58:22 almost entirely useless 17:59:16 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:00:01 Lua Error 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10312 by spanner 18:00:01 PleasingFungus: "Further ally customization will probably replace this as a capstone effect." = my idea, or did you have something else in mind, or unsure? 18:00:13 chequers: yours, yes 18:00:25 guess i'd better actually code it 18:00:29 :P 18:00:32 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:00:36 !lm * src=clan x=cv 18:00:42 1444404. [2016-03-03 22:59:20] [cv=0.17] riffraff the Shatterer (L24 GrBe of Trog) found a silver rune of Zot on turn 60353. (Vaults:5) 18:00:48 !lm * src=clan trunk x=cv 18:00:50 !lm * src=clan trunk x=vlong 18:00:59 -!- MarvinPA has left ##crawl-dev 18:01:33 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:01:33 929422. [2016-03-03 23:01:05] [cv=0.18-a] Mercurio the Covered (L7 MiGl of Makhleb) killed Pikel on turn 2925. (D:5) 18:02:05 929423. [2016-03-03 23:01:05] [vlong=0.18-a0-1484-g95ebbe1] Mercurio the Covered (L7 MiGl of Makhleb) killed Pikel on turn 2925. (D:5) 18:02:11 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-a0-1496-g27d3123 (34) 18:02:23 heh 18:02:29 hm 18:02:44 ah, okay 18:02:47 3 commits behind 18:04:37 -!- Guest22355 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:05:57 !commit upgrade PleasingFungus 18:05:58 03ProzacElf * 0.18-a0-1568-g6219745: upgrade PleasingFungus 10(in the future, 46 files, 640+ 918-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6219745 18:06:04 :) 18:06:09 =D 18:13:49 PleasingFungus: what HD do you think the capstone should be at? the abilities that will be turned into capstone choice seem to be 16-18 18:14:11 18 18:14:18 kk 18:14:42 -!- molotove1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:14:45 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:16:33 hm 18:16:48 I want to add an icon for this new idealise status effect 18:16:50 what would happen if you joined H after hitting XL27 then 18:17:03 but it ends up going onto the monster's head and looks like shit 18:17:05 feh 18:17:21 Lightli: yeah. I think the ability will depend on both HD and piety 18:17:30 make it a bright star or something 18:17:51 PleasingFungus: a white heart? 18:18:07 or perhaps blue, to match H's other icons 18:18:39 like symbolizing a bright and well-remembered memory 18:18:54 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:18:56 the problem is the positioning 18:19:09 there's always a little heart in the top-right, since the ancestor is allied, so the icon goes left than that 18:19:09 -!- Abadox has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:19:14 which is on the corner of the ancestor's head 18:20:15 that's fine. there are often multiple buff icons for tiles 18:20:36 eh, later on it'll be hasted anyways 18:20:38 what you're describing sounds like something very understandable for the average tiles player imo 18:20:40 it's barely visible and looks awful 18:20:45 as a tiles player 18:20:46 I hate it!!! 18:20:49 :) 18:20:57 Lightli: fair point, actually 18:20:59 hm 18:21:01 you're the boss boss 18:22:02 i'll put it in and complain 18:22:06 -!- Piginabag has joined ##crawl-dev 18:22:07 strong 18:22:12 This Is Extremely My Shit 18:22:28 you mentioned idealize was going to be buffed in some way 18:22:42 how is it being buffed beyond the current HP heal + AC boost? 18:23:37 if it's a permanent thing, i don't see why it even needs an icon 18:23:42 -!- emikaela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:24:01 it's not 18:24:12 ok then 18:25:13 PleasingFungus: there's an annoying corner case: if the player hits HD18 without selecting an ancestor type 18:25:43 or if they worship at level 27, as lightli noted. 18:25:48 PleasingFungus: well, I guess you just defer asking for the capstone until they level up with an ancestor type 18:25:51 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:25:53 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 18:26:01 yes, that's what I was thinking. 18:26:11 Lightli: we may never know. 18:26:19 for worshipping at XL27, I think you also trigger it if you hit max piety above the XL 18:26:21 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1636-gb430c8b: Reduce ancestor offensive power by 1/3rd 10(38 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b430c8b26a69 18:26:21 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1637-ge674d38: Make Idealise much more significant 10(9 minutes ago, 16 files, 39+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e674d3847c61 18:26:33 alternatively, make there be a capstone for no ancestor type 18:26:47 secret capstone gives +50 slay, easter egg! 18:26:56 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1636-gb430c8b: Reduce ancestor offensive power by 1/3rd 10(39 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b430c8b26a69 18:26:56 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1637-ge674d38: Make Idealise much more significant 10(9 minutes ago, 16 files, 39+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e674d3847c61 18:26:56 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1638-gaebbfa2: Revert "Buff Magic Armour" 10(21 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/aebbfa2feff4 18:27:01 players love stuff like that 18:27:56 considered also making it more expensive and longer-duration, but that didn't mesh well with the healing side of the effect 18:28:17 what are other god abilities that cost 5 piety 18:28:52 it technically costs avg 6.25 piety 18:29:35 oh 18:29:45 makh's greater servant is also '5', as is tso's angel summon 18:29:45 Lightli: finesse costs 5 18:29:52 *cost 5 18:29:54 currently 3 18:30:15 and both of those are on gods with much easier piety gain than exploration 18:30:48 it's very easy to tweak exploration piety gain, you know 18:30:58 gain 1 piety per tile explored 18:31:03 :P 18:31:07 -!- alvarops has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:31:27 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1638-gaebbfa2: Revert "Buff Magic Armour" 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/aebbfa2feff4 18:31:43 lord, you made it cost even more 18:31:55 i had enough trouble staying above *** 18:32:47 amalloy: made transferrence cheaper! 18:33:06 but I can always increase piety gain if it's too hard right now 18:33:11 like I said, it's really not hard 18:33:19 looks more expensive to me in that diff. i guess there was another diff before that? 18:33:28 cool 18:33:30 +1 18:33:33 (to the change) 18:33:39 %git f072a91 18:33:39 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-1634-gf072a91: Swap Transference and Romanticise 10(61 minutes ago, 3 files, 10+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f072a91375f0 18:33:42 ^ 18:34:56 -!- AnFair has quit [Client Quit] 18:35:18 -!- miek_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:35:39 i did not find transference especially useful 18:35:48 outside of one or two fights 18:36:09 mainly to park my guy right next to a juggernaut or iron giant 18:36:29 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:36:39 ProzacElf: which transference? 18:36:49 sounds like you're talking about the old one 18:36:49 explosion 18:36:49 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:36:55 no 18:36:57 not what I meant 18:36:59 wait, what does it do now? 18:37:06 it was reworked twice now 18:37:07 swap any enemy with your ancestor 18:37:14 it was just "trade places" 18:37:14 yeah 18:37:14 *any monster 18:37:20 that was the one 18:37:31 maybe i just wasn't creative enough 18:37:34 :) 18:37:38 PleasingFungus: ancestors can't be berserked right 18:37:38 ontoclasm: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 18:37:42 i chose explosion for the remember death part 18:37:43 they're currently undead 18:37:46 though I might change that 18:38:00 yeah, i thought it was a little weird that holy word hosed him 18:38:03 poor arsenio 18:38:04 well, if you don't, you could put the icon in the bottom right where berserk goes 18:38:04 I would like a non-rHoly- ancestor 18:38:12 haha 18:38:14 that seems really irrelevant 18:38:14 or bottom left where demon pentacles go 18:38:17 because the systems around crawl undead/holy states is not complex enough 18:38:22 the holy- 18:38:22 and he was also kind of a liability on holypan 18:38:30 haha 18:38:32 the one place 18:38:38 !messages 18:38:39 (1/1) Grunt said (18h 7m 56s ago): ontoclasm: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 18:38:48 H ability fr "make ancestor go away until i recall it" 18:38:49 r-recursion??? 18:38:51 ontoclasm: ah, didn't remember berserk was there 18:38:57 let me see how that looks 18:39:11 be sure to remove the icon shift line 18:39:56 don't worry PF--i survived holy pan and then got killed in regular pan. it was not my ancestor's fault though 18:40:13 :) 18:40:37 lol 18:40:49 other than the fact that i wish i'd chosen a different god altogether =p 18:41:02 nooo 18:41:07 haha 18:41:18 honestly the issue had a lot more to do with being a VS 18:41:21 and blurry vision 18:41:33 i probably would have been screwed unless i took zin or ely 18:41:59 hm 18:41:59 and also finding my first ?blink in gloorx's level 18:42:37 which i think is a new personal record 18:42:46 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:42:46 wow 18:43:02 did you clear d & so on, or was this something more speedrunnish? 18:43:10 !hs * god~~hepl 18:43:11 203. Lightli the Executioner (L27 HOGl of Hepliaklqana), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2016-02-18 10:16:56, with 2390588 points after 68546 turns and 2:18:00. 18:43:22 !lg * god~~help won s=name 18:43:22 No games for * (god~~help won). 18:43:26 haha, yeah, i cleared d 18:43:27 !lg * god~~hepl won s=name 18:43:28 13 games for * (god~~hepl won): josefromcouch, Shard1697, Lasty, namelastname112, mibe, amalloy, coldwave, TALISMASHER, password, lessens, Lightli, useraccount, Hellmonk 18:43:29 help 18:43:42 !lg * god~~hepl urune>4 s=name 18:43:43 One game for * (god~~hepl urune>4): ProzacElf 18:43:46 ? 18:43:48 congrats 18:43:50 and did swamp and spider and U and slime and crypt and vaults 18:43:57 and abyss too 18:44:21 !lg prozacelf god~~hepl s=rune 18:44:22 Unknown field: rune 18:44:25 dammit 18:44:42 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 18:44:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 18:44:53 re being undead, i think it's weird that the hep ancestor is undead 18:45:07 hit me 18:45:07 it's not the ghost of your ancestor, it's a reification of your memory/imagination 18:45:32 mm 18:45:34 I buy it 18:45:45 part of the reason it's undead is to get various resists 18:45:51 brutal ancestral powergaming 18:46:06 heh 18:46:24 probably most of the reason 18:46:47 i'd want to give it rpois and rn at some point if it wasn't undead 18:48:01 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1639-gc9971f7: Move Idealise icon to the bottom-right (ontoclasm) 10(42 seconds ago, 2 files, 3+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c9971f7fb2f1 18:50:42 also I need to stick the word "reify" into the text somewhere, now 18:51:33 god description 18:51:36 reify your memories 18:52:02 n.b.: it would probably be a bit obnoxious to actually use 'reify'. 18:52:06 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:52:17 when has obnoxious stopped you?! 18:52:26 o! I am undone! 18:52:28 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1639-gc9971f7: Move Idealise icon to the bottom-right (ontoclasm) 10(5 minutes ago, 2 files, 3+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c9971f7fb2f1 18:52:32 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0.2/20160210153822]] 18:52:38 now i feel bad 18:52:43 how obnoxious 18:55:20 -!- Poot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:56:20 the world would be a better place if more PC gamers knew what the word reify means 18:56:30 take that burden upon yourself, PF 18:56:37 would it? 18:56:42 well not a lot better 18:56:46 lol 19:00:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:00:33 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:50 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:01:34 pleasingfungus: " Hepliaklqana will remember this." sounds a little passive aggressive 19:03:02 when I get an enum value it's an int. can I convert that back to the symbolic name in any way? 19:03:25 I want to figure out what id 623 corresponds to in MONS_ 19:03:57 -!- _miek has joined ##crawl-dev 19:05:02 chequers: programmatically, or what? 19:05:14 amalloy: just for debugging purposes 19:05:29 well, gdb knows, but i guess you're not using gdb 19:05:38 i tried counting through the enum but there's too many ifdefs 19:05:52 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:06:08 -!- _miek has quit [Client Quit] 19:06:27 http://dpaste.com/0S2RQQN the switch statement I've added is falling into the default case 19:06:34 but I don't really understand what mon type 19:07:07 you forgot all your breaks 19:07:16 also those {}s are all just illusions 19:07:29 arrrrghhhghh 19:07:41 -!- _miek has joined ##crawl-dev 19:08:21 {} doesn't delimit cases. use break; to end a case without fallthrough 19:08:39 haha this vault was not designed for amphibious swap worms 19:09:57 !lg . x=kmap 19:09:58 3538. [killermap=worms_lemuel] wheals the Warrior (L11 HOMo of Beogh), slain by a swamp worm (kmap: worms_lemuel) on D:11 on 2016-03-04 00:09:42, with 8964 points after 13889 turns and 0:33:40. 19:10:05 !vault worms_lemuel 19:10:06 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/mini_monsters.des#l259 19:11:13 -!- serQ has quit [Quit: suddenly gone...] 19:11:17 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:11:35 FR swap worms 19:12:20 how do i stop mpr capitalising my line 19:12:27 ah, mpr_nocap 19:12:58 need mpr_nojoin_nocap 19:13:14 !source PRINTF 19:13:15 Can't find PRINTF. 19:13:17 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:15:16 -!- jetnerd has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:15:49 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:21:07 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:24:04 -!- themonke1bob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:24:58 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:25:22 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:26:32 if I'm defining a vector list, how can I conditionally add an element? 19:26:39 !source set_ancestor_spells 19:26:40 Can't find set_ancestor_spells. 19:26:45 whoops 19:27:00 -!- Misder has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:27:06 -!- Wahaha has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:27:17 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/combo_god/crawl-ref/source/mon-util.cc#L5735 19:27:33 I want to add a spell to the HEXER list only if a certain condition is true 19:30:24 if (condition) some_vector.push_back(thing); 19:30:43 hm, actually, do we normally use something other than push_back 19:30:49 I remember emplace being used elsewhere 19:30:51 * geekosaur notes it's declared const currently 19:30:57 oh 19:31:08 i can un-const it 19:31:13 that won't work here 19:31:14 i was hoping there was a way to do it inline 19:31:20 static 19:31:36 that too, yes 19:31:38 hrm 19:31:43 like { (expression) ? { 18, SPELL_FOO} : {}, 19:31:52 sadly that won't work in a static initializer 19:32:05 oh 19:32:06 and not in general anyway, because C (and inherited by C++) 19:32:07 that gives me an idea 19:32:16 i guess I can just do this check in another way 19:32:16 let me find a bit of code where we've done this previously that I just thought of 19:32:29 rather than adding something to the list conditionally, just skip over it conditionally when we use the list 19:32:33 !source acquire.cc:667 19:32:33 bb in 15mins 19:32:33 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/acquire.cc#l667 19:32:52 remove static, adjust weight based on condition 19:33:50 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 19:33:51 -!- Adalace has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:34:04 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:41:55 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:43:36 Grunt: i want to add a whole element though 19:43:36 or not add 19:43:39 based on condition 19:44:21 yes 19:44:21 so 19:44:27 set weight to 0 if condition is false 19:44:28 :) 19:44:36 oh, this isn't weight 19:45:14 use -1 or 28 or something for false then 19:46:43 bleh 19:47:02 there isn't really a nice static way to do this 19:47:54 another possible approach 19:48:18 set up a struct or class similar to monster spell slots, which have weight, spell, flags 19:48:24 (here weight would be level of course) 19:48:32 adjust the logic based on the flags 19:51:21 SPFLAG_JUST_KIDDING 19:52:14 -!- WorkSight has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 19:53:48 lol 19:57:25 SPFLAG_DO_NOT_USE 19:57:36 eventually, things with that flag would be used 19:57:43 and you're introduce SPFLAG_REALLY_DO_NOT_USE 19:58:36 SPFLAG_REALLY_ABSOLUTELY_POSITIVELY_DO_NOT_USE_EVER 19:58:55 mantis 12117: monsters casting spells that they really, absolutely, positively, should not be using 19:59:14 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:00:34 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:02:10 -!- ProzacElf is now known as GhostElf 20:04:03 SPFLAG_WAT 20:04:53 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:07:59 -!- GhostElf is now known as Elronnd 20:08:33 -!- Elronnd has quit [Disconnected by services] 20:09:07 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:09:27 -!- ProzacElf_ is now known as ProzacElf 20:09:42 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:14:25 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:19:04 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:20:01 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:22:07 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:24:07 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 20:24:35 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 20:34:44 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 20:35:03 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:40:17 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:40:17 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:44:16 ok, in this map, how do I refer to a certain element? 20:44:24 splist[MONS_ANCESTOR_HEXER].insert(0, { 17, SPELL_MASS_CONFUSION }); doesn't work 20:45:37 oh, it's still const 20:49:50 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:51:40 ah, have to do this 20:51:40 auto vec = splist[MONS_ANCESTOR_HEXER]; 20:51:41 vec.insert(vec.begin(), { 17, SPELL_MASS_CONFUSION }); 20:51:44 is there a better way? 20:52:07 that won't change the original 20:52:22 what do you mean? it seems to work 20:53:13 <_miek> vec will get the new value but splist won't 20:53:41 ah, yeah it's buggy 20:53:48 splist might, depends on how the compiler handles it. but it's static const so there's going to be a number of things going on 20:54:00 i removed static & const 20:54:07 http://dpaste.com/02FKHAC 20:55:19 -!- bencryption has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 20:56:08 hm 20:56:17 * geekosaur hopes nothing was depending on it being static 20:56:24 or for that matter const 21:00:33 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:05:50 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:07:25 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:11:41 pleasingfungus: ancestor identity is great: Your butt hits the goblin for 2. 21:11:53 _Your butt emerges from the mists of memory! 21:12:15 -!- kaiza has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:15:30 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:16:56 usually, it's the other way around. 21:18:11 i do NOT let goblins hit my butt 21:19:46 sure that one wasn't about the "mists" of "memory"? :p 21:21:56 -!- control has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:23:14 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:23:17 -!- LordSloth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:28:04 man. I now understand why c++ has pair 21:28:12 when tuple's accessor is so ugly 21:28:15 std::get<0>(foo) 21:28:28 is that REALLY the best way to access data if I have a 3 element list? 21:34:11 chequers: if you want to access all the values of a tuple at once, it looks like you can use something like tie: http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/tuple/tie/ 21:36:14 |amethys1: could all uses of map_find in crawl be replaced with std::map.at now? 21:36:50 amalloy: not at the same time sadly, doing things like if (std::get<0>(spellspec) <= HD && (std::get<2>(spellspec) == 0) 21:37:04 just get them all once 21:38:53 int hd, foo, spell; tie(hd, foo, spell) = spellspec; if (hd <= HD && ...) 21:39:01 why not just use a struct? 21:39:47 <|amethys1> chequers: no, because at throws an exception if it was not found 21:40:21 <|amethys1> I mean, you could wrap it with a try/catch, but exceptions are for exceptions: if you expect that the thing might not be there, at isn't what you should be using 21:41:13 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:41:28 makes sense 21:41:34 <|amethys1> amalloy: C++17 will hopefully be giving us destructuring assignment 21:41:38 -!- bzzz has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:41:48 just a thought, think I've replaced it somewhere we can do it and had Big Ideas 21:41:52 C++23: pattern matching from haskell98 21:41:55 wow, what won't C++17 have 21:42:03 besides good syntax 21:42:08 beat me 21:42:11 it'll still be C++, so sanity 21:42:20 >.> 21:42:39 <|amethys1> I'm with wheals btw: use a struct 21:42:59 <|amethys1> spellspec.hd is a lot easier to follow than .first or .get<0> or whatever 21:43:31 yeah 21:43:41 why can't a map use mymap.get(0) btw 21:43:52 actually, do I want to know? 21:44:02 <|amethys1> to get the first entry in the map in order you mean? 21:44:06 right 21:44:16 sorry, tuple 21:44:18 <|amethys1> oh 21:44:19 tuple.get(0) 21:44:21 <|amethys1> that makes more sense 21:44:31 <|amethys1> what would happen if you passed in 5? 21:45:10 -!- |amethys1 is now known as |amethyst 21:45:25 same as what happens if you pass in 5 the ugly way 21:45:36 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:45:39 chequers: on a tuple with less than 6 elements, he means 21:45:44 <|amethyst> tuple.get<5>() will fail to compile if the tuple is smaller than that 21:46:01 <|amethyst> tuple.get(5); cannot (imagine if it were tuple.get(i) ) 21:46:15 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:46:22 <|amethyst> also, what type would tuple.get() return? 21:46:32 <|amethyst> tuple.get(i) that is 21:46:32 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 21:46:56 erg horrible 21:46:58 <|amethyst> it's a template parameter because it has to be known at compile time 21:47:54 <|amethyst> with C++14 I think it would be possible to define a template member variable like tuple.member so you at least wouldn't need the parentheses 21:48:20 <|amethyst> not sure thogh 21:48:24 <|amethyst> though 21:49:40 <|amethyst> C++14 does give you tuple.get() if the tuple only has one int member 21:50:02 <|amethyst> which might seem kind of silly, but you can see the readability improvements with tuple.get() 21:50:10 -!- culcube is now known as phyphor 21:50:14 <|amethyst> as opposed to <1> 21:51:22 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1497-g788d838: Smells and Sounds of Crawl (#10311). 10(35 seconds ago, 1 file, 16+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/788d838757fe 21:52:24 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1497-g788d838: Smells and Sounds of Crawl (#10311). 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 16+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/788d838757fe 21:54:13 how do I make an item in-game which is like 'broadaxe randart ego:flaming' 21:54:32 guess i should see how wizmode does it 21:54:40 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 21:54:56 <|amethyst> chequers: &% broad axe randart ego:flaming 21:55:05 sorry, I meant in C++ 21:55:10 <|amethyst> oh 21:55:25 <|amethyst> I don't know if that's a good idea... 21:55:42 not based on user string. I just want to create a randart broad axe of flaming 21:55:44 <|amethyst> I would at least be kind of picky about which artefact properties it gets 21:55:54 <|amethyst> it's kind of silly if it gets Str+4 for example 21:56:11 yeah, a whole bunch of props are useless 21:56:11 <|amethyst> or something else that doesn't affect monsters 21:56:14 <|amethyst> or something negative 21:57:00 i posted an in-depth analysis of how we plan our code https://www.reddit.com/r/roguelikedev/comments/48v5u1/faq_friday_33_architecture_planning/d0msugs 21:57:44 "Linley Henzell, for all of his merits, was exactly a great coder" 21:57:50 heh 21:57:57 oops 21:58:09 tell me more about bwr's code style 21:58:15 don't leave that juicy morsel unexplained 21:58:18 unexampled 21:58:40 "not 1.1" 21:59:15 i haven't really looked at 4.1's code honestly, this is based on the snark's writings about the origins of DCSS 22:00:34 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:41 his design sense is of course what makes 4.1 famous 22:01:03 4.1 is 22:01:05 interesting 22:01:08 in many ways 22:01:29 I really do want to port the modern interface to 4.1 or vice versa 22:04:46 <|amethyst> btw, great comment added in the 2000jun20 version of crawl-ancient 22:04:53 ? 22:04:57 <|amethyst> oh, never mind 22:05:03 . 22:05:09 <|amethyst> I was misparsing it, so it's not as funny as I thought 22:05:17 <|amethyst> * The new LOS works via a new (I think) shadow casting algorithm[...] 22:05:39 <|amethyst> I was parsing that as "I think it's shadow casting" 22:05:44 <|amethyst> rather than "I think it's new" 22:06:09 I choose to read it as "I'm not sure if there is another LOS algorithm in the codebase already" 22:06:23 <|amethyst> "I think it's an algorithm" 22:06:33 probably 6 of them, all buggy 22:06:56 <|amethyst> I do wonder just how many LOS systems Crawl has used 22:07:04 too many 22:08:54 before that there was a comment: The losight function is so complex and tangled that I daren't even look at it. Good luck trying to work out what each bit does. 22:09:45 <|amethyst> daren't 22:09:53 <|amethyst> I need to use that word more 22:13:01 you shan't 22:13:22 * geekosaur does use it occasionally. (also shan't for that matter) 22:13:40 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:14:08 <|amethyst> I usually use "dare not", because Oscar Wilde 22:14:09 maybe we can bring it back. (hey, "albeit" was essentially gone in the 80s... but it gets used a bit now) 22:15:14 <|amethyst> I should start trying to import words from my native dialect into standard AmE 22:15:20 i used to have no idea how "awry" was pronounced 22:15:27 until like late high school 22:15:27 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:15:28 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 22:15:50 <|amethyst> ProzacElf: I used to think "genre" was "djinn-ray" 22:15:56 heh 22:16:32 "segue" 22:16:40 gameh ovaire 22:19:01 <|amethyst> I mostly trained myself to speak with an approximately General American accent, but never could make myself do the weals-wheals merger 22:19:25 it's pronounced quork, not quark! 22:20:02 |amethyst: now i can't read all of your code in a stereotypical backwoods appalachian accent?? 22:20:25 <|amethyst> I'm a-whup you, boah 22:21:42 hell, it's about time. 22:22:08 i admit i have it coming 22:22:08 PleasingFungus: https://github.com/alexjurkiewicz/crawl-ref/commit/df9fb96d14fbffa9214674b76b23f702ea2d1814 22:22:12 PleasingFungus: i'm so sorry about the code 22:22:20 <|amethyst> My wife and I grew up maybe 100 km apart, but she has a hard time understanding my grandmother 22:22:34 Remember which thingy? 22:23:14 you can test by starting a new char, then &_H &^200 &l26Y &x 22:23:30 oops, add in aH/I/J 22:23:59 'antimagic dagger' seems wrong 22:24:08 also weird that you capitalize Polearm but not dagger 22:24:19 it's a dagger named Polearm 22:24:28 knight is unimplemented! 22:24:39 are you still doing the randart thing 22:24:42 even though we agreed not to 22:24:53 well, that's why I didn't implement it yet :) 22:25:01 i forgot what we agreed 22:25:42 choosing weapon type and getting vanilla weapons, rather than messing around with randarts 22:25:46 check the logs if you like 22:25:50 ah yeah 22:25:51 not that I guess it matters 22:26:19 I guess this means you end up shifting stuff like the flame ego forward 22:26:27 since the axe[/polearm] goes to the end 22:26:34 that's fine 22:26:47 i sort of wonder if it'd make sense to give the knight some kind of active 'draw aggro' effect 22:27:04 the goal of the axe was to sort of do that by hitting/potentially distracting as many monsters as possible 22:27:08 but maybe an explicit ability would be better 22:27:39 i don't know how crawl aggro works really, but knight doesn't seem very effective right now since it never picks a target before you do 22:27:53 and often when I tell an ally to attack something, that something walks right past them 22:28:25 give knight 22:28:27 constrict 22:29:10 fourth class choice: horrifying abomination of wizard-science 22:29:14 Your ancestor remembers that one time in the snake pit. 22:29:23 haha 22:29:45 <|amethyst> make your choice: 1. executioner's axe 2. sticky secretions 22:29:55 learn add 22:33:02 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 22:33:52 PleasingFungus: right now knights get a new weapon and brand at xl27 22:33:58 maybe the brand should be xl26? 22:34:14 yeah, you'll want to shift that earlier 22:34:43 or could ditch it entirely; i only added it because I wanted something for a capstone 22:35:06 it's a pretty major part of the knight's DPS right? I haven't run the numbers but I'm assuming its basically 50% boost 22:35:22 feature-complete commit https://github.com/alexjurkiewicz/crawl-ref/commit/be0a5730c8ef02d1e3c5692c346f937c7e1606a1 22:35:34 just needs to be code-sane 22:35:42 code is illegal 22:35:50 also, all those braces in the switch statement do nothing 22:35:53 just so you know 22:36:09 i wanted your opinion on how to do the mon-info stuff. A few devs said "struct" but I'm not sure if the whole "third field" thing is the right approach 22:36:28 what mon-info stuff 22:36:34 I saw some small fragment of that conversation 22:36:38 but not enough for context 22:36:45 you can just read the diff I posted, I think 22:36:50 <|amethyst> set_ancestor_spells I think 22:36:55 <|amethyst> which isn't in mon-info 22:37:03 whoops, mon-util 22:37:05 oh 22:37:12 yeah, struct sounds right to me 22:37:19 <|amethyst> but I do think you're right 22:37:36 also, lifehack: you don't have to specify zero fields 22:37:36 <|amethyst> that this isn't necessarily the right place for that second bit 22:37:59 the second question would be around fixing up the prompt in religion.cc, which I copied from gozag but then needed to do all the XXX to and it still doesn't work!! 22:38:27 owned 22:38:28 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: can you do that with a tuple? 22:38:34 v0v 22:38:36 the third would be figuring out how to trigger this for XL27 worshippers (I'm thinking the two candidates would be firing on-worship or on-piety-breakpoint) 22:38:46 i was thinking about structs 22:38:49 <|amethyst> aha 22:38:50 since we were talking about structs 22:39:09 fourthly and finally you need to rename this god because HEPLIAKLQANA_CAPSTONE_CHOICE_KEY is too long and I'm having to linebreak too much 22:39:11 <|amethyst> the general problem I think is that this 1 and 2 has to match up with some code in a completely different file 22:39:18 chequers: are you sure you'll need to do something extra for the xl27 case 22:39:36 <|amethyst> I think the available choices themselves should be some data structure somewhere 22:40:05 chequers: just call it hep_capstone_key 22:40:07 who cares 22:40:16 PleasingFungus: right now the ancestor is only upgraded at worship for xl27 -- and at worship the ancestor has no type, so capstone function does nothing 22:40:22 <|amethyst> but not sure how one would interface with that in set_ancestor_spells 22:40:33 ah 22:40:33 PleasingFungus: but that will mess up your search & replace when you finally do rename it ;) 22:41:03 well, just check in the choice type function, then 22:41:12 good idea 22:41:19 ; ) 22:41:19 thanks ideas man 22:41:23 that's me 22:41:25 im the ideas guy 22:41:50 i'm the slave labour! 22:43:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:43:19 ; ) 22:43:29 <|amethyst> /nick PleasingThePharaoh 22:43:50 why not just PleasingPharoah? 22:44:03 because it would be 22:44:06 PleasingPharaoh 22:44:10 >.> 22:44:21 actually, i'm naming myself after the racehorse. 22:44:59 PharFungus 22:45:06 <|amethyst> PleasingLap 22:45:20 <|amethyst> PleasingBiscuit 22:45:35 <|amethyst> Grunt Admiral 22:45:38 *clearly* seafungus > pleasingbuiscuit 22:45:43 ack! 22:46:54 <|amethyst> this town is full of streets named after horses 22:47:28 <|amethyst> Sir Barton, Star Shoot, Pink Pigeon, ... 22:48:34 I've never seen a horse. 22:48:54 <|amethyst> I don't think I've seen a horse since I moved here 22:49:03 nevertheless the horses are always watching you 22:49:04 <|amethyst> my great-uncle had a farm so I saw one there 22:49:37 wheals: aaaa 22:49:39 <|amethyst> though oddly I've seen more deer in this town than when I lived in the boondocks 22:50:06 <|amethyst> I guess it's not that odd: more habitat displacement 22:52:46 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:52:49 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0.2/20160210153822]] 22:53:08 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 22:54:56 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:55:47 xl27 case working 22:55:54 that or they all followed you 22:57:34 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:59:44 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:00:34 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:02 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:05:13 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 23:05:26 -!- crate_ is now known as crate 23:10:08 -!- feksclaus has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 23:15:33 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 23:24:01 -!- beatdown has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 23:24:15 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:27:15 -!- antigone- has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:27:41 -!- bencryption has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:27:41 -!- Krenium has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:28:08 -!- Ragnor has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:28:38 -!- lnt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:28:39 -!- lnt has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:28:39 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:28:39 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:28:59 -!- fallenxxxsky has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:30:17 -!- inire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:31:14 -!- wheals has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:33:47 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:33:59 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 23:35:03 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:36:43 -!- glosham has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:39:13 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:45:48 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 23:48:35 -!- jspengler has quit [] 23:51:59 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 23:54:32 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 23:55:58 -!- giann has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]