00:00:28 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01:38 PleasingFungus: https://git-man-page-generator.lokaltog.net/ 00:01:54 chequers: ya :) 00:02:06 damn. keeping SVN 00:03:36 sometimes I fear I'm turning into a tech dinosaur because I like old things like Ubuntu LTS and python. Then I read ##crawl <3 00:05:56 ​git is the one piece of evidence pointing to alien intervention in humanity's history 00:06:11 how could something so much better than its predecessors suddenly arrive? 00:06:43 is it so much better? 00:07:21 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:07:26 i'm looking at my git command history and some of the stuff you have to do is just awful 00:08:02 it was comically hard to do anything in previous systems. hardly anybody branched ever, and you couldn't create commits without pushing them. people would *lock entire files*, preventing anyone else from changing them, and then forget and go on vacation 00:08:20 -!- jspengler has quit [] 00:08:30 every svn command would take multiple seconds, because it had to go talk to the svn server, isntead of just using the repo on your desktop 00:09:12 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:09:14 perforce was a lot better than svn 00:09:16 git's command-line is a bit scatterbrained, no argument there, but the fundamentals of the tool are solid 00:09:37 personally i like the git CLI but i'm 100% aware that's stockholm syndrome 00:10:43 i'm ditto :) just perhaps trying to lie to myself 00:10:47 i admit i never tried perforce 00:11:48 i don't know where it fits historically. is it really a contemporary of svn? DVCS was not popular at that time 00:12:24 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 00:12:34 don't know the history much, it came along in the latter part of svn's life to my mind 00:12:51 -!- Blade-_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:12:51 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 00:12:56 It was a bit like svn with a crappy attempt at the user-friendliness of dropbox, is how I'd describe it 00:13:12 like files woud auto-lock when you opened them, and auto-unlock if you closed them without changes 00:13:22 advisory locks, anyone can force an unlock, etc etc 00:13:25 branches were still hard 00:13:37 svn2.0, I guess 00:14:28 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:18:57 it looks like you need to buy a license to run perforce. no wonder it never took off. you have to be a *lot* better than the alternatives, or have a good lock-in policy, to get away with that 00:20:34 -!- ldf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:23:07 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:26:37 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:27:24 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1481-g708b138 (34) 00:28:57 New branch created: pull/242 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/242 00:28:57 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/242 * 0.18-a0-1472-g80e3b75: Don't let noise break mesmerisation. 10(17 hours ago, 4 files, 0+ 35-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/80e3b75b14ce 00:29:12 New branch created: pull/242 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/242 00:29:12 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/242 * 0.18-a0-1472-g80e3b75: Don't let noise break mesmerisation. 10(17 hours ago, 4 files, 0+ 35-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/80e3b75b14ce 00:30:59 -!- eb has quit [] 00:34:58 -!- Zeor1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:38:23 tiny little change for someone to take http://dpaste.com/2B8FCCM 00:38:27 cough amalloy 00:40:52 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:43:07 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:43:17 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 00:46:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 00:47:21 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 00:47:49 -!- jbenedetto has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:48:42 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 00:51:19 -!- bencryption has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:51:34 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Read error: No route to host] 00:56:07 -!- foophykins has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:56:48 -!- jetnerd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:56:51 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:57:22 ??rebuild 00:57:22 rebuild[1/2]: https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 00:59:35 ??rebuild[2 00:59:35 rebuild[2/2]: Trunk update start times in UTC (second number during summer time): CSZO: 0600/0500; CAO: 1700; CDO: 0600/0500; CLAN: 2300/2200; CBRO: 0800/0700; CXC: 0500/0400; CPO: every 15 minutes 01:00:12 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:00:28 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:02:17 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:05:51 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 01:06:23 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:07:08 -!- Athaboros has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:09:59 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:11:40 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1481-g708b138 (34) 01:12:14 -!- Harudoku` has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:15:39 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:19:30 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1481-g708b138 (34) 01:21:03 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:21:53 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1481-g708b138 (34) 01:27:46 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:29:18 -!- giann has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:29:47 -!- spooncolony has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:30:19 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:30:55 @??rime drake 01:30:55 rime drake (02k) | Spd: 12 | HD: 6 | HP: 28-39 | AC/EV: 3/12 | Dam: 8 | fly | Res: 06magic(20), 02cold | XP: 373 | Sp: flash freeze (3d13) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 01:33:25 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:36:49 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:37:18 -!- owl has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:38:45 -!- owl has joined ##crawl-dev 01:49:26 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:51:57 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 01:55:04 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1481-g708b138 01:55:58 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:56:34 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:58:44 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:58:53 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0.2/20160210153822]] 02:00:15 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:00:27 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:01:15 !learn add amalloy_todo "The amulet rips away your lifeforce as you remove it!" - should be "life force" (?) 02:01:15 amalloy todo[7/7]: "The amulet rips away your lifeforce as you remove it!" - should be "life force" (?) 02:03:51 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:06:38 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 02:07:17 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 02:08:47 -!- ProzacElf_ is now known as ProzacElf 02:09:24 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:17:04 take my offering amalloy 02:18:53 i dunno, i don't personally love it enough to merge it. it doesn't seem like an improvement. if someone else likes it, they can merge it and i won't object 02:22:50 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:24:55 -!- FireSight has quit [] 02:26:14 is the hep/uka branch somehow geared to make hep show up earlier, or is it just my luck? 02:31:16 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 02:31:27 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:31:49 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:35:56 luck 02:36:44 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0.2/20160210153822]] 02:39:09 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:43:22 i thought maybe the same bias that gave hep an actual altar tile made him more likely to show up earlier =p 02:43:22 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:44:52 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 02:46:39 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:47:42 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 02:47:45 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:53:14 -!- sorlin has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:53:21 -!- owl has quit [Quit: bye.] 02:53:25 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1481-g708b138 02:54:30 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:58:35 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:00:28 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:08:18 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:10:12 -!- grimmulfr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:16:40 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:17:38 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:18:47 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:21:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 03:22:34 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 03:22:52 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1481-g708b138 (34) 03:33:35 -!- sorlin has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:33:40 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:38:34 -!- lnt has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:40:43 -!- Nimuir has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:45:16 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:46:46 -!- sorlin has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:47:56 -!- BonnieLass has joined ##crawl-dev 03:49:40 Pardon me, but I want to ask about something. Rebinding the game is a major pain right now... the bindkey method is the most straightforward, but it has a lot of limitations. The macro system is more robust, but also a lot more tedious 03:50:29 Would it be possible to be able to declare functions in macros? It would make things a lot more human-readable for doing a lot of rebinds. 03:51:07 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:51:26 Binding a macro directly to CMD_WAIT for example, instead of binding something to s 03:51:50 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 03:52:09 what do you imagine being able to do with this feature? that is, imagine we implemented it exactly as you want: what would you do? 03:53:04 Uh, well, I generally like to give roguelikes that have mouse support a WASD-QEZC movement scheme. And given DCSS has like... a LOT of keybinds for whatever reason, I have to move a lot of stuff around. 03:53:11 So that would just make that process a whole lot easier. 03:53:14 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 03:55:19 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 03:56:10 I actually have done this in the past, but I'm pretty much having to do it again from scratch given WebTiles changed the way it handles number inputs and it's a huuuuge pain. 03:56:46 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 03:56:58 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:59:05 Honestly, it would also be really nice if the vi-keys and the number keys could be severed from being linked to one another altogether so they could be rebound separately outside the macro system, but I'll take what I can get 04:00:29 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:02:09 i guess my question is more like, what do you mean "declare functions"? lua functions? "functions" which are a sequence of macro characters but not bound to any actual key? what is a specific line or two of code you can't write now that would demonstrate how you wish this feature works? 04:03:00 I mean the commands that are in keybinds.txt 04:03:05 CMD_FIRE, CMD_QUAFF, etc. 04:09:29 03amalloy02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1615-ga9afc23: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into combo_god 10(24 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a9afc233581c 04:09:40 -!- infrashortfoo has joined ##crawl-dev 04:14:16 03amalloy02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1615-ga9afc23: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into combo_god 10(29 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a9afc233581c 04:14:38 -!- tealeaves has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:17:32 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:18:26 -!- BonnieLass has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:22:31 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:39:32 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:42:28 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:48:20 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:56:49 -!- edsrzf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:59:15 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 05:00:29 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:04:58 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 05:09:40 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:09:43 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 05:15:28 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 05:17:13 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:31:34 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:36:06 -!- sorlin1 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:40:27 -!- vev has quit [Client Quit] 05:40:57 !learn add amalloy_todo " You can't see any clouds you can empower." shouldn't cost a turn 05:40:58 amalloy todo[8/8]: " You can't see any clouds you can empower." shouldn't cost a turn 05:41:58 -!- fazisi_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:42:50 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 05:44:20 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:48:41 !tell lasty any reason i shouldn't merge https://github.com/amalloy/crawl/commit/0b7092d0e71d4e0774ce15cb23b3ce4dad5e6bba into master? is it an information leak or something? it seems like it shouldn't cost me a turn to be told there are no friendly clouds nearby 05:48:42 amalloy: OK, I'll let lasty know. 05:50:23 !tell lasty actually wait, qazlal is grunt's? i'm just used to sending god complaints to you, i guess 05:50:23 amalloy: OK, I'll let lasty know. 05:50:42 !tell Grunt any reason i shouldn't merge https://github.com/amalloy/crawl/commit/0b7092d0e71d4e0774ce15cb23b3ce4dad5e6bba into master? is it an information leak or something? it seems like it shouldn't cost me a turn to be told there are no friendly clouds nearby 05:50:42 amalloy: OK, I'll let grunt know. 05:55:41 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 05:57:39 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 05:59:47 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:00:26 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:04:42 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:09:32 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:24:58 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 06:25:22 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 06:25:22 -!- sorlin has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:26:59 -!- ldf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:29:37 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 06:34:14 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:40:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 06:41:53 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 06:43:31 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:43:55 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:46:35 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:47:39 -!- lnt has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:59:16 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:00:28 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:01:26 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:12:50 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 07:14:16 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 07:16:56 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 07:17:49 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:17:53 -!- clouded_ is now known as st_ 07:26:37 -!- fazisi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:27:12 -!- West1C has quit [] 07:29:14 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:32:48 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 07:40:07 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 07:45:43 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:47:51 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 07:48:16 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 07:51:12 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 08:00:27 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:05:33 -!- droogie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:07:44 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:18:58 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:22:12 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 08:22:34 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 08:25:29 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 08:36:32 -!- mmazing has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:40:29 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:42:51 -!- lukano has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:45:24 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 08:48:51 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:49:53 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:51:25 -!- Ayey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:54:14 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Client Quit] 08:56:30 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:56:35 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 08:57:14 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 08:58:45 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 09:00:27 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:04:35 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:11:32 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:11:45 -!- Ayey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:18:19 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:29:15 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:29:54 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 09:30:40 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 09:32:33 -!- } has joined ##crawl-dev 09:32:36 <}> some dlua error 09:32:39 <}> notify_dgn_event: Lua error: ...aster/crawl-git-708b138207/data/dat/dlua/lm_1way.lua:22: bad argument #1 to 'terrain_changed' (number expected, got boolean) 09:40:04 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:43:20 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:43:24 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 09:49:21 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:49:31 !comborobin 09:49:34 comborobin progress: 615/615 (100%) 09:49:36 RIP 09:54:10 quick someone add a new race or class >.> 10:00:27 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00:32 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:01:13 chequers: the formulas might need tweaking. I grew them in my garden. But an Erlocha D:A -> A2 sounds like lolollol got you. Did you die? If so I get to add it to my kill count. 10:01:23 which I have not been tracking 10:05:05 -!- sorlin has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:07:22 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:07:49 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 10:08:37 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 10:12:32 -!- Ayey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:15:03 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:24:02 -!- Keskitalo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:24:03 -!- ArbitraryName has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:25:17 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:27:09 03Keskitalo02 07* 0.18-a0-1482-gbc23ccf: Revert "An herbivore, not a herbivore: the H is silent" 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bc23ccf7b884 10:27:46 03Keskitalo02 07* 0.18-a0-1482-gbc23ccf: Revert "An herbivore, not a herbivore: the H is silent" 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bc23ccf7b884 10:28:09 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6lJGD3Q9Qs 10:28:49 -!- Shinino has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:29:58 -!- falu has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 10:33:48 -!- SurpriseTRex_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:39:00 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:39:51 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 10:40:50 -!- West1C has quit [] 10:41:20 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 10:47:42 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:47:53 -!- hijfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:49:43 -!- Galewind has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:53:20 -!- mopl has quit [Client Quit] 11:00:28 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01:04 !nick greatestplayers 11:01:05 Mapping greatestplayers => squarelos 11:01:12 !nick -rm greatestplayers 11:01:13 Deleted greatestplayers => squarelos 11:01:16 !nick greatestplayers comborobin 11:01:16 Mapping greatestplayers => comborobin 11:05:41 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 11:12:48 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:13:01 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:13:18 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:13:49 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 11:14:21 -!- Ayey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:14:27 -!- nosratheno has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:14:28 -!- Lohengramm_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:14:38 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 11:15:32 -!- axujen has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:15:32 -!- dark_star has quit [Excess Flood] 11:15:33 -!- infrashortfoo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:15:33 -!- Lohengramm has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:15:33 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:15:34 -!- mngrif has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:15:34 -!- voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:15:42 -!- infrashortfoo__ is now known as infrashortfoo_ 11:16:24 -!- Lohengramm_ is now known as Lohengramm 11:16:25 -!- nikheizen has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:18:34 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 11:18:37 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Changing host] 11:18:37 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 11:25:04 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:30:02 -!- themonke1bob11 has quit [Client Quit] 11:30:08 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:43:51 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:44:17 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 11:44:33 why is there no tile_key_repeat_delay equivalent in console mode ? 11:45:00 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:45:45 -!- tealeaves has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:46:54 -!- tealeaves has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:46:54 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:53:10 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 11:54:04 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:57:49 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:27 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:02:10 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:04:11 -!- Turgor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:05:16 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1482-gbc23ccf (34) 12:06:53 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 12:07:03 -!- grimmulfr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:09:40 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:13:48 -!- halv has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:16:52 what are the main features Lasty_ has added? besides Ru 12:17:42 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:19:09 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 12:19:14 nm found it 12:19:19 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:20:26 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 12:26:16 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:27:57 -!- molotove1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:30:16 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 12:31:55 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 12:33:03 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 12:36:50 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:43:21 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:44:21 -!- KurzedMetal1 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:49:26 bgiannan, because crawl has no control over that, your terminal emulator does and it may be using native window system features (e.g. xset on x11-based systems) 12:50:03 (I assume you're not using an actual terminal, in which case you might need to resort to firmware hacking) 12:51:41 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:53:11 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 12:53:29 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:53:40 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 12:59:42 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:00:31 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:02:01 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:02:23 -!- Evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:02:44 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:10:44 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:22:38 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:31 -!- WebFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:32 hm, this one's me 13:25:33 hmm 13:25:45 wonder if it's a save compat issue or a persistent issue 13:26:04 Lua error after portal timeout 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10308 by ldf 13:26:08 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:26:52 Lua error after portal timeout 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10308 by ldf 13:27:31 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:27:42 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 13:28:03 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 13:28:16 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 13:31:34 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:37:11 yeah i suspect that'll be one-time 13:37:42 !lm ldf 13:37:42 8836. [2016-03-02 18:33:32] ldf the Severer (L21 DDWr of Makhleb) left the Depths on turn 48466. (Depths:1) 13:37:53 !lm ldf x=vlong 13:37:54 8836. [2016-03-02 18:33:32] [vlong=0.18-a0-1481-g708b138] ldf the Severer (L21 DDWr of Makhleb) left the Depths on turn 48466. (Depths:1) 13:37:55 would probably be good to add some compat lua 13:37:59 !lm ldf alive 1 x=vlong 13:38:03 1/45. [2015-05-01 15:23:13] [vlong=0.17-a0-791-g233d389] ldf the Digger (L1 GrEE) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 13:38:09 !lm ldf alive ddwr 1 x=vlong 13:38:09 not that I know what exactly we'd need to add compat with 13:38:11 not sure what persists 13:38:13 1/42. [2016-02-28 23:31:28] [vlong=0.18-a0-1435-gee79d65] ldf the Grasshopper (L1 DDWr) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 13:38:23 seems like a waste to me 13:38:41 well 13:38:47 we already have a file for compat lua 13:39:15 and if this breaks portals vanishing, that seems noticeable enough to address 13:39:33 that's not the issue, the issue is that the save has the wrong function call in it 13:39:40 and if you change the function back, it will happen in reverse 13:41:03 i admit it is worse than i thought at first since it doesn't remove the portal :/ 13:42:20 can you explain to me what's going on with the lua here? I'm not clear on what's marshalled 13:44:12 WebFungus: portal didn't disappear 13:44:23 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:44:48 !source m_1way.lua 13:44:50 Can't find m_1way.lua. 13:44:51 !source lm_1way.lua 13:44:52 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/dlua/lm_1way.lua 13:44:52 there is still bazaar on v:4 and this message appears after save/load or entering this level 13:45:00 ldf_: yes, we know. 13:45:05 i believe it's marshalling OneWayStair:disappear 13:45:31 i wonder whether lua has function overloading 13:45:45 huh, i'm the second person to ever touch this file. 13:45:58 wheals: http://lua-users.org/wiki/OverloadedFunctions ? 13:46:21 so maybe add a back-compat terrain_changed that takes a dummy middle argument? 13:52:15 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:31 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:58:28 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:00:28 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01:17 -!- emikaela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:01:52 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:02:08 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 14:03:12 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 14:03:20 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:05:33 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:08:02 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:11:40 -!- MarvinPA has left ##crawl-dev 14:12:26 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:18:24 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 14:20:33 <|amethyst> WebFungus: probably one version of the function that checks the number of arguments 14:20:33 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:20:43 ack 14:21:14 in an ideal world, i'd like to make this code as easy as possible to amputate on a tag break 14:23:01 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:25:47 @??thrashing horror 14:25:47 thrashing horror (08X) | Spd: 25 | HD: 9 | HP: 43-58 | AC/EV: 5/10 | Dam: 1707(trample), 907(trample) | 11non-living, 10doors, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(60), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 841 | Sp: might [11!AM, 06!sil, 04emergency] | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 14:26:46 @??apocalypse crab 14:26:46 apocalypse crab (00t) | Spd: 10 | HD: 8 | HP: 45-59 | AC/EV: 11/6 | Dam: 1509(chaos), 1509(chaos) | 05demonic, amphibious, unholy, see invisible | Res: 06magic(60), 05fire++, 02cold++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 09poison, 08holy++, 11silver | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 447 | Sp: chaos breath (d12) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: small | Int: animal. 14:29:58 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:31:24 -!- MIC132 has quit [Client Quit] 14:33:33 -!- WebFungus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:33:47 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:35:20 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 14:37:31 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:38:17 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 14:39:34 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:42:08 -!- Turgor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:48:27 any reason i shouldn't merge https://github.com/amalloy/crawl/commit/0b7092d0e71d4e0774ce15cb23b3ce4dad5e6bba into master? is it an information leak or something? it seems like it shouldn't cost me a turn, MP, and piety to be told there are no friendly clouds nearby 14:49:27 also i just noticed elemental force affects even clouds you can't see, like on the other side of a wall 14:49:45 sounds good, though it'd be even better if you didn't waste a turn if you failed the success check 14:50:09 you'd need to pass fail into qazlal_elemental_force and add a fail_check(); after the possible abort 14:50:12 oh, good idea 14:51:46 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:53:36 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest82518 14:54:58 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:55:11 what's the difference between spret fail vs abort? 14:56:18 fail means you failed the percentage success rate so you still use a turn/costs 14:56:32 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:57:29 makes sense. but you don't actually use costs after failing, at least for god abilities 14:57:42 so it'd just be the turn 14:59:47 huh, did not know that 15:00:29 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:36 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 15:02:24 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:03:21 hm, should do the same thing to disaster area, i guess 15:03:39 do the fail check *after* asking if you're sure you want to hurt friendlies 15:04:21 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:07:04 -!- } has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:08:22 03amalloy02 07* 0.18-a0-1483-g26ca7b4: Don't waste a turn when elemental force finds no clouds 10(9 hours ago, 3 files, 6+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/26ca7b4008cd 15:08:22 03amalloy02 07* 0.18-a0-1484-g95ebbe1: Check invoc fail% *after* checking usefulnss (wheals) 10(23 seconds ago, 3 files, 5+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/95ebbe145f85 15:09:24 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 15:09:58 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 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turns and 0:00:44. 18:04:41 racking them up nicely 18:04:46 !lg * recent killer="rime drake" 18:04:47 5. Banquo the Bludgeoner (L14 OgBe of Trog), blasted by a rime drake (flash freeze) on Lair:8 (grunt_megastairs_5) on 2016-02-29 12:42:21, with 42758 points after 23315 turns and 1:13:18. 18:04:52 !lg * recent killer="howler monkey" 18:04:53 4. musashi the Insei (L4 VSMo), slain by a howler monkey on D:4 (uniq_crazy_yiuf_cottage) on 2016-02-29 23:22:37, with 78 points after 1074 turns and 0:02:55. 18:05:07 bludgeoned to death by monkeys... tragic... 18:05:12 !lg * recent killer="howler monkey" s=place 18:05:13 4 games for * (recent killer='howler monkey'): 2x D:3, D:4, D:5 18:05:20 -!- zeeratt has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:05:21 no deaths to packs. interesting 18:05:30 !lg * recent killer="rime drake" s=xl 18:05:31 5 games for * (recent killer='rime drake'): 2x 13, 2x 14, 12 18:05:37 !lg * recent killer="dart slug" s=xl 18:05:37 192 games for * (recent killer='dart slug'): 127x 1, 52x 2, 10x 3, 7, 6, 4 18:05:46 hm, is the level 7 one new? 18:05:50 !lg * recent killer="dart slug" xl=7 18:05:51 1. xovet the Chopper (L7 DDFi), blasted by a dart slug (slug dart) on D:4 on 2016-02-28 11:49:03, with 821 points after 2471 turns and 0:10:06. 18:05:53 !lg * recent killer="dart slug" xl=6 18:05:54 1. Brendan5E the Skirmisher (L6 HOFi), blasted by a dart slug (slug dart) on D:3 on 2016-02-23 17:04:02, with 242 points after 2530 turns and 0:11:26. 18:06:02 wait, wait, that's a dd??? 18:06:05 !lg * recent killer="dart slug" xl=7 =tv 18:06:06 Broken query near '=tv' 18:06:08 !lg * recent killer="dart slug" xl=7 -tv 18:06:08 1. xovet, XL7 DDFi, T:2471 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 18:06:20 nooo 18:06:24 ??dart slug 18:06:24 I don't have a page labeled dart_slug in my learndb. 18:06:25 cwz... 18:06:30 !lg * recent killer="dart slug" xl=7 -log 18:06:31 1. xovet, XL7 DDFi, T:2471: http://webzook.net/soup/morgue/trunk/xovet/morgue-xovet-20160228-114903.txt 18:06:32 what are these new monsters 18:06:40 my 0.17 knowledge is worthless 18:06:54 they're all about two weeks old 18:06:58 @??dart slug 18:06:58 dart slug (10w) | Spd: 7 | HD: 1 | HP: 8-12 | AC/EV: 1/1 | Dam: 3 | Vul: 09poison | XP: 4 | Sp: slug dart (2d4) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: little | Int: animal. 18:07:01 @??howler monkey 18:07:01 howler monkey (09h) | Spd: 12 | HD: 3 | HP: 15-23 | AC/EV: 1/11 | Dam: 3, 2 | 10doors | Res: 06magic(10) | XP: 54 | Sp: warning cry [11!AM, 08breath] | Sz: small | Int: animal. 18:07:03 @??rime drake 18:07:03 rime drake (02k) | Spd: 12 | HD: 6 | HP: 28-39 | AC/EV: 3/12 | Dam: 8 | fly | Res: 06magic(20), 02cold | XP: 373 | Sp: flash freeze (3d13) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 18:07:40 !lg * killer="dart slug" dam=1 18:07:40 4. M4edhros the Charlatan (L1 OpAr), slain by a dart slug on D:1 on 2016-02-28 01:28:23, with 5 points after 268 turns and 0:00:17. 18:07:58 !lg * tdam=1 max=xl 18:08:02 322971. minmay the Archmage (L27 SpCj of Vehumet), shot themselves with a +7,+6 dagger of holy wrath on Coc:7 (coc_mu) on 2011-05-25 00:17:11, with 642082 points after 161631 turns and 9:38:33. 18:08:08 lame 18:08:14 !lg * tdam=1 max=xl -2 18:08:18 322971/322972. ListenToMetal the Sorcerer (L27 NaAE of Makhleb), forgot to breathe caused by a neqoxec on Abyss:5 (hangedman_abyss_rune_macabre_mess) on 2013-05-26 02:53:25, with 873243 points after 160962 turns and 23:11:44. 18:09:17 WebFungus: I was at 15 hp when the rime drake found me 18:09:28 as BAnquo 18:09:42 brutal kill-theft 18:09:49 taking the credit from other, more deserving monsters 18:09:59 !lg * recent lair / killer="fire drake" 18:10:00 345/38947 games for * (recent lair): N=345/38947 (0.89%) 18:10:01 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-a0-1484-g95ebbe1 (34) 18:10:04 mainly basilisks 18:10:13 petrified? 18:10:29 no, but they and some yaks wore me down 18:10:54 !lg * recent killer="dart slug" x=tdam max=tdam 18:10:54 192. [tdam=13] Brendan5E the Skirmisher (L6 HOFi), blasted by a dart slug (slug dart) on D:3 on 2016-02-23 17:04:02, with 242 points after 2530 turns and 0:11:26. 18:11:01 !lg * recent killer="dart slug" x=dam max=dam 18:11:02 192. [dam=8] Snack the Magician (L1 DETm), blasted by a dart slug (slug dart) on D:1 on 2016-02-22 09:20:16, with 2 points after 68 turns and 0:00:19. 18:11:04 i am petrified of rime drakes 18:11:08 I was hanging out near an Ice Cave, hoping to get to it with some hp left 18:11:47 @??dart slug 18:11:47 dart slug (10w) | Spd: 7 | HD: 1 | HP: 8-12 | AC/EV: 1/1 | Dam: 3 | Vul: 09poison | XP: 4 | Sp: slug dart (2d4) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: little | Int: animal. 18:11:58 how much damage do goblins throwing stones do 18:12:10 main effect of dart slugs at present seems to be to increase early-game de/fe mortality 18:12:12 Oh, and a komodo dragon 18:12:40 @??goblin 18:12:40 goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 3-5 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | XP: 1 | Sz: small | Int: human. 18:12:43 probably 1d6 18:13:07 they throw more often than dart slugs fire, though 18:13:13 !lg * goblin recent s=kaux 18:13:13 No keyword 'goblin' 18:13:18 !lg * killer=goblin recent s=kaux 18:13:20 30972 games for * (killer=goblin recent): 11238x, 7594x a +0 club, 5847x a +0 dagger, 1868x Shot with a stone by a goblin, 346x a +2 dagger of electrocution, 319x a +0 dagger of electrocution, 306x exploding inner flame, 298x a +1 dagger of electrocution, 219x Shot with a sling bullet by a goblin, 161x a cursed +0 club, 136x a +0 spear, 115x a cursed +0 dagger, 114x a cursed -1 club, 113x a +2 dag... 18:13:37 !lg * killer=goblin recent kaux~~stone s=dam 18:13:39 1955 games for * (killer=goblin recent kaux~~stone): 359x 4, 340x 5, 317x 6, 313x 3, 200x 7, 193x 2, 100x 8, 98x 1, 35x 9 18:13:51 hm, interesting 18:14:02 I wonder if the very high-damage ones are mighted 18:14:10 probably not 18:14:27 oh, maybe hunting slings, though 18:14:44 !lg * killer=goblin recent kaux="" 18:14:49 11238. Thunderouswizard the Bolt Thrower (L3 DsHu), slain by a goblin (led by Robin) on D:2 on 2016-03-02 21:57:59, with 45 points after 799 turns and 0:02:52. 18:15:12 not sure if the hunting sling kills can be filtered out 18:17:37 -!- thrig has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:17:40 !lg * killer=goblin recent kaux~~stone s=dam d:1 18:17:41 134 games for * (killer=goblin recent kaux~~stone d:1): 30x 3, 25x 4, 24x 2, 17x 1, 13x 5, 12x 6, 7x 8, 4x 7, 2x 9 18:17:52 v0v 18:18:22 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:18:46 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:19:31 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 18:19:58 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:21:11 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:22:44 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 18:23:20 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 18:24:43 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals 18:27:10 -!- serQ has quit [Quit: suddenly gone...] 18:31:12 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:33:54 -!- WebFungus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:34:06 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 18:37:24 -!- Athaboros has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:44:56 -!- Turgor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:45:03 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:46:39 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:49:49 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:49:49 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 18:52:35 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:53:00 -!- Galewind has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:54:25 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:55:42 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:55:55 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 18:57:37 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 18:59:37 amalloy: Elemental Force predates when abilities had a spret_type, so I guess that was just never updated 18:59:57 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:00:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 19:00:11 was elemental force originally a passive? 19:00:27 it seems rarely used, and qaz is considered somewhat weak 19:00:30 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:33 it was not 19:01:03 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:21 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:03:05 qaz is considered weak by puny players who are afraid to press a 19:03:45 i have been riding qaz into the ground 19:03:49 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 19:04:51 -!- roadmap has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:05:03 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:05:12 !lg . s=god% / won 19:05:13 48/369 games for amalloy: 6/12x Cheibriados [50.00%], 4/13x Okawaru [30.77%], 3/7x Zin [42.86%], 3/5x Gozag [60.00%], 3/8x Makhleb [37.50%], 3/12x Ru [25.00%], 2/3x Trog [66.67%], 2/3x Jiyva [66.67%], 2/14x Ashenzari [14.29%], 2/14x Qazlal [14.29%], 2/5x Vehumet [40.00%], 2/18x Lugonu [11.11%], 2/9x Kikubaaqudgha [22.22%], 2/6x Dithmenos [33.33%], 1/17x Sif Muna [5.88%], 1/6x The Shining One [16.6... 19:05:26 !lg . recent s=god% / won 19:05:27 42/176 games for amalloy (recent): 5/9x Cheibriados [55.56%], 4/9x Okawaru [44.44%], 3/3x Makhleb [100.00%], 3/12x Ru [25.00%], 3/5x Gozag [60.00%], 3/5x Zin [60.00%], 2/11x Ashenzari [18.18%], 2/6x Kikubaaqudgha [33.33%], 2/3x Dithmenos [66.67%], 2/3x Lugonu [66.67%], 2/3x Jiyva [66.67%], 1/4x Qazlal [25.00%], 1/2x Vehumet [50.00%], 1/4x Xom [25.00%], 1/4x Nemelex Xobeh [25.00%], 1/2x Trog [50.00... 19:06:44 nm, qazlal confirmed as bad as xom 19:09:37 -!- fallenxxxsky has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:09:50 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest9446 19:10:33 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:14:01 -!- Guest9446 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:15:53 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:17:24 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:18:19 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:20:20 :) 19:21:38 -!- lnt has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:22:17 oh god. ! gave me FeWn. as if my life isn't hard enough 19:22:33 well, you have to play FeWn now 19:23:09 i am 19:24:02 incredibly i started with 5 Fighting 19:26:01 FR rename /random to "wand of haste other" 19:26:22 -!- WorkSight has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 19:27:12 lol 19:27:50 здравствуйте Товарищ 19:28:04 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:28:13 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:30:25 i wonder if pakellas is good for Fe. you can't use the rods, but... 19:31:03 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 19:35:25 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 19:36:20 fun fact: P's supercharge targets wands as well specifically for the Fe case 19:42:41 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:51:12 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 19:57:34 -!- amathew has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:00:29 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:12 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:05:14 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:05:47 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 20:07:22 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 20:08:56 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 20:10:38 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest30947 20:11:08 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 20:12:40 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:14:54 -!- Guest30947 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:23:29 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:34:53 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 20:40:19 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 20:40:46 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 20:41:12 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 20:42:35 -!- roadmap has joined ##crawl-dev 20:54:27 -!- HarryHood has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:59:53 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:00:30 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02:45 -!- Piginabag has quit [Client Quit] 21:09:09 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 21:09:32 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 21:09:37 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:09:42 -!- Lasty_1 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:10:27 -!- bitcoinbastard_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:10:44 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 21:11:03 -!- Cerpin has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:11:24 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 21:12:29 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:14:08 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 21:14:52 -!- jefus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:14:57 -!- Rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 21:15:10 -!- ontoclasm1 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:15:25 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 21:16:31 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 21:16:36 -!- PsyMar has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:16:51 -!- PsyMar2 is now known as PsyMar 21:17:36 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:18:56 -!- vible_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:19:20 -!- johnny0_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:19:47 -!- rax_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:21:40 -!- Abadox has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:23:48 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:23:48 -!- feksclaus has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:23:48 -!- DashNine has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:23:48 -!- vible has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:23:48 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:23:48 -!- ldf has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:23:48 -!- johnny0 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:23:48 -!- Kramell has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:23:49 -!- Rast-- has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:23:49 -!- Adder has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:23:49 -!- fiyawerx has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:23:49 -!- rax has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:23:58 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Read error: No route to host] 21:27:13 -!- Cacophony has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:28:04 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:30:31 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 21:31:31 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:39:07 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:40:23 -!- jefus- has joined ##crawl-dev 21:40:36 I feel like nemelex decks shouldn't really have the flat out negative stuff even at low evo 21:41:52 i mean, as it stands, he's basically just the worst god to take in any situation 21:41:53 don't you believe in the heart of the cards, ProzacElf? 21:41:53 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 21:42:05 -!- feksclaus has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 21:42:11 idk what nem *is* if not the god of inevitable suicide 21:42:14 if i want to get worked over by my god, i'll stick with xom 21:42:17 haha 21:42:18 =D 21:42:20 an unfortunate overlap! 21:42:24 xom is the god of instant suicide though 21:42:25 ProzacElf: there are a lot of people who think varying gods are the worst one to take in any situation 21:42:26 totally different 21:42:36 well, i guess that's chei 21:42:39 retracted! 21:42:45 amalloy: ok, fine, chei is bad a lot of the time 21:42:50 why do you take nemelex and then not train evo? 21:43:09 i don't *like* nemelex, because he's a PITA, but he's so strong early 21:43:18 the cards wreck shit up 21:43:24 because even with 10 evo i still might get that angry red ugly thing 21:43:37 -!- jefus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:43:58 unlucky. read ?tele 21:43:58 so nemelex is basically atheist with more junk filling up my inventory 21:44:20 yeah, junk that 85% of the time kills monsters all by itself 21:45:00 i actually like decks, but i just feel like nemelex doesn't really reward using them much 21:45:22 and i get why we got away from "using cards builds piety" as a mechanic 21:45:49 i mean, he rewards using them by giving you a huge spellpower bonus, so that you can use them in relative safety much more easily than other characters 21:46:13 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:46:28 also, the active abilities 21:47:18 lol 21:47:28 i mean, it's nice to get a friendly pan lord 21:47:51 i think it's totally reasonable for decks to sometimes do bad stuff, because the good stuff they do is so good, and you get to use them so much 21:48:13 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 21:48:34 there are other reasons to rework nemelex, because the inventory clutter is awful, but it's like "it really sucks that i sometimes get unlucky when i worship the god of luck and don't train the luck skill at all" 21:48:37 i mean, if everyone is happy with where nemelex is, then fine. but it just feels to me like xom light. 21:49:11 is anyone ever happy with where nem is 21:49:20 <<>> 21:49:22 haha, i have to admit, i brought this up for reasons completely unrelated to using nemelex. when i do take him, i do try to train evo as much as possible 21:49:33 PleasingFungus: probably not 21:49:41 newnewnewnewnewnewnem 21:49:44 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 21:49:45 im hype 21:49:47 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0.2/20160210153822]] 21:49:56 but i just wind up thinking that everything i do is wrong when i'm using nem 21:50:27 !lg . max=dam x=dam 21:50:28 1439. [dam=85] SGrunt the Blackguard (L14 SpEn of Nemelex Xobeh), shot themself with a poison arrow on D:11 on 2012-05-20 20:53:28, with 62437 points after 38269 turns and 2:27:20. 21:50:33 lol 21:50:42 that TV is pretty funny actually 21:50:44 this is not helpful in your case against me grunt 21:50:47 !lg . max=dam x=dam -tv:<5.0:x5.0 21:50:48 1439. SGrunt, XL14 SpEn, T:38269 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 21:52:19 hahahaha 21:52:27 how did you wind up with -8 int exactly? 21:52:40 !lg . max=dam x=dam -tv:<2.0 21:52:40 1439. SGrunt, XL14 SpEn, T:38269 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 21:53:39 !title blackguard 21:53:42 blackguard: Stabbing 8-14 21:55:04 lol 21:55:05 nice 21:56:06 anyway, i'm not saying that there shouldn't be risk involved with using nemelex, but right now he just seems like a challenge god 21:56:39 unrelated: i can't believe i used to think makhleb's invocations before ad were a waste of time 21:56:54 time for more god complaints, is it really necessary for gozag to not allow eating? 21:56:57 er, chunks 21:57:02 lol 21:57:26 i learned about ab a while ago, but this game i am using the shit out of aa and it is amazing 21:58:16 ab is ridiculously good now 21:58:35 i never used aa or ac that much 21:58:43 but i also haven't used makh since the last tourney 21:58:52 i just used ac for the first time on D:9, when i discovered orc 21:59:08 i got a 5x5 lightning explosion that killed like...eight orcs 21:59:08 gw loves Makhleb invocations 21:59:19 BLOOD AND SOULS 21:59:46 i feel like gw would also love disc of storms 22:00:30 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:30 stone arrow that reaches to edge of LOS 22:00:41 at the low low cost of 1 HP and 4 points in invo 22:00:58 I should teach gw to use more evokables 22:01:00 especially rods 22:01:01 so that P 22:01:21 that P 22:01:27 ohhh, that P 22:01:43 lol, also, pak has basically made nem look stupid 22:01:50 to pick up my complaint 22:02:39 "oh, you like evocations? well, there's one god that's great, and another that is kind of like his slow cousin" 22:03:32 -!- regret-index has joined ##crawl-dev 22:03:36 -!- thrig has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:03:45 you can make your evocations better, or you can get draining bolt three times against rN+ monsters" 22:03:48 -!- jetnerd has quit [Client Quit] 22:06:28 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:08:19 decks used to include sudden unarmed forms, twisters, weapons animating away from them, self-torment, self-orb-of-elec, singular effect of confusion/decay/slow, and one-turn-delay berserk 22:08:31 -!- Adder_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:09:01 -!- Jarlyk2 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:09:08 unlucky down-hd polymorph or getting some friendly and unfriendly foxfire / uglies is such tameness from the old days 22:10:57 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 22:11:26 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest53006 22:12:04 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 22:12:13 you. 22:12:17 %git gauntlet 22:12:17 07regret-index02 * 0.18-a0-1455-g67c73e9: New portal vault: the Gauntlet (set-up, concept map) 10(3 days ago, 14 files, 401+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/67c73e925d03 22:14:23 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 22:21:20 -!- nonethousand has joined ##crawl-dev 22:21:40 -!- nicolae- has quit [Disconnected by services] 22:21:46 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 22:21:50 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 22:22:40 -!- Guest53006 has quit [*.net *.split] 22:23:51 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 22:25:25 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 22:25:39 -!- Ragnor has quit [Disconnected by services] 22:25:48 -!- |amethys1 has joined ##crawl-dev 22:25:48 -!- Wensley is now known as Guest59785 22:25:59 -!- plathrop_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:26:07 what, not interested in portal vault drafts, nicolae-? 22:26:27 -!- Kramell has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:26:28 -!- bd- has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:26:28 -!- twzt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:26:29 -!- voker57_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:26:29 -!- n1k has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:26:30 -!- Guest60793 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:26:30 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:26:30 -!- cromulent has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:26:30 -!- buki has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:26:30 -!- ChongLi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:26:30 -!- phyphor has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:26:30 -!- plathrop has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:26:30 -!- Ipsum_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:26:31 -!- |amethyst has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:26:32 -!- voker57 has quit [Changing host] 22:26:34 -!- plathrop_ is now known as plathrop 22:26:41 can't stand 'em! 22:26:52 me neither 22:26:59 just furthering the rot 22:27:04 -!- Abadox has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:27:40 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 22:28:41 -!- MBlaureNs_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:29:43 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 22:33:04 -!- eb has quit [] 22:34:08 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 22:34:24 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 22:37:30 -!- LordSloth has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:39:02 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 22:39:17 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 22:43:13 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 22:43:41 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 22:48:59 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 22:49:14 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 22:49:56 -!- Misder_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:52:30 In my current game I was fighting Mara - read a scroll of silence, but she still summoned the illusion and copies of herself - this doesn't seem intended? i tried to fight her once before and she summoned the illusion and copies of herself (did not read silence) before running away. 22:52:57 mara is a demon, demons don't need voice to summon 22:53:07 -!- nonethousand is now known as n1 22:53:11 @??mara 22:53:11 Mara (13R) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 117-169 | AC/EV: 12/14 | Dam: 30 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, unholy, see invisible | Res: 06magic(140), 05fire++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 8024 | Sp: blink [06!sil], b.fire (3d27) [06!sil], mara summon [06!sil], sum.illusion [06!sil], pain (d17) [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 22:53:27 or to cast spells in general 22:53:41 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 22:53:47 in a number of games I've seen enemies pick up potions and scrolls from the floor while directly in view 22:53:59 in 0.17 22:54:09 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 22:55:03 are they potions and scrolls on the top of the stack, iirc they can pick up stuff that you haven't seen and you can't see things that aren't on top unless you step on that square 22:56:25 hm yeah it's possible that's what happened 22:56:27 geekosaur - does the [!sil] mean can cast while silenced? 22:56:51 yeah 22:56:58 yes 22:57:04 demons gesture, they don't chant 22:57:58 nicolae-: I killed a gnoll and another gnoll immediately moved onto that tile, and the next turn picked up a scroll (that wasn't there earlier) 22:58:44 it looked really bizarre but it makes sense considering that scroll hadn't been seen by me yet 22:59:10 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 22:59:14 hmm good to know 22:59:14 this is true of all demons, not just panlords or rakshasas 22:59:19 @??white imp 22:59:19 white imp (005) | Spd: 10 | HD: 2 | HP: 9-13 | AC/EV: 4/10 | Dam: 412(cold:2-5) | 05demonic, 10doors, unholy, fly | Res: 06magic(10), 02cold++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 10 | Sp: throw frost (3d5) [06!sil] | Sz: little | Int: human. 22:59:23 -!- ursan has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 22:59:26 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 22:59:27 @??Grinder 22:59:27 Grinder (025) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 32-47 | AC/EV: 3/11 | Dam: 1105(pain) | 05demonic, 10items, 10doors, unholy, see invisible | Res: 06magic(20), 02cold++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 276 | Sp: pain (d14) [06!sil], paralyse [06!sil], blink [06!sil] | Sz: little | Int: human. 22:59:47 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:30 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:41 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 23:03:43 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 23:03:56 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:04:09 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 23:07:53 hm 23:08:05 it'd be possible to prevent that pickup behavior 23:08:20 possibly we should, since it produces a lot of bug reports 23:08:38 (also worth noting is that Mara is male. the ancient Buddhists didn't know Westerners would decide that -a meant feminine...) 23:08:57 actually, I think you'll find that in my fanfiction, 23:09:14 i've seen some very good mara fanfiction, actually. sadly not crawl-inspired. 23:09:34 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 23:10:20 wheals: since I figure you'd have opinions on this, what would you think of preventing monsters from picking up items from seen stacks? 23:11:16 i guess the current behavior is surprising to many 23:11:20 based on the questions we get 23:11:53 yeah, and it doesn't seem like there's any particular advantage to allowing pickups from lower items in seen stacks 23:12:22 strictly speaking, the hindu mara is a feminine reaper, and the latverians have mara as some mothering goddess, but neither fits the mold nearly as well as the tempter to the illusionist 23:13:13 ...latvians do not have victor has a leader, regret-index. 23:14:04 the baltic is doomed! 23:14:22 -!- ontoclasm1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:15:06 -!- Abadox has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:15:13 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 23:15:45 it looks like mon-act has the only call to monster::pickup_item that doesn't set force = true 23:16:35 arguably, with the whole girimehkhala as sri lankan ganesha demonization, mara should have a hellephant mount. 23:19:43 you have so many rider ideas! 23:19:53 you know, the bonerider branch is still on github. 23:20:49 Bonerider, you say. 23:20:58 %git bonerider 23:20:58 07|amethyst02 * 0.15-a0-1569-gafcbb9f: New monster: bone rider (Patashu) 10(1 year, 9 months ago, 4 files, 43+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/afcbb9fc6327 23:20:58 clearly instead of fravashi the derived undead for extended will be nagual. liches with hydra skins. 23:20:59 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:21:12 did you ever play myth: the fallen lords 23:21:16 no 23:21:50 http://mythipedia.wikia.com/wiki/Fetch I'm sure they stole this from somewhere 23:21:52 but it was rad 23:22:03 hydralich 23:22:33 better or worse than hydrataur 23:22:39 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 23:22:49 fr all monsters hydras 23:23:01 I should implement some stuff for cyc branch 23:23:04 add some shit from the sa thread 23:23:07 crab race 23:23:15 universal beogh 23:23:23 assassain bugs meet the vaguely-racist skinwalker creepypastas? hrm. 23:23:24 i need to start work on pizza tornado in time for a month from now!! 23:23:36 I feel super bad about pizza tornado :( 23:23:54 -!- cromtom is now known as cromulent 23:24:05 how do I extract your disposable coding skills for 23:24:29 ...what do I even have plotted out I can't eventually do myself. I could resurrect ancient colonel core ideas but 23:24:33 regret-index: racist? 23:24:47 the creepypastas 23:25:06 this shit is from like 1995 or something 23:25:17 1997 23:25:17 welp 23:25:35 okay, priestly assassain bugs. still very good. 23:25:44 they had a lot of good monster designs, but the fetch were the most distinctive probably 23:25:48 -!- Misder_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:26:32 -!- Misder has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:28:29 where's the mix between slash'em and mortasheen, the universe has failed to answer 23:30:36 -!- wheals has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:31:31 what? pizza tornado is happening? 23:31:48 there needs to be some new april fool's joke 23:32:50 make nemelex good for april fool's =p 23:33:51 we'll revert nemelex several versions 23:34:18 experience cards and bazaars in exchange for the self torment and self orb of elec and hostile fiends and twisters 23:35:42 -!- starbutterfly has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:36:59 universal beogh is definitely cyc worthy 23:37:39 alternate april fools idea: get permission from a few fork authors, and combine all their ideas into a megapatch, and commit for april fool's 23:37:50 (get their permission because it might be seen as insulting) 23:38:34 we don't have enough nethack castles at three, so copy over nethack castle hive 23:38:37 it's giving them exposure! 23:38:59 also look forward to the invisible orb guardians 23:39:20 add elbereth 23:39:22 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 23:39:32 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1485-g189885c: Don't let monsters pickup from seen stacks (8723) 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 25+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/189885cc8b68 23:39:32 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1485-g189885c: Don't let monsters pickup from seen stacks (8723) 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 25+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/189885cc8b68 23:40:29 fairy chaos mages and their cast the strongest conjuration you have ontop of you spell 23:40:49 the perma-berserk game condition 23:41:50 put a shop on D:1 selling a copy of the orb of zot for a hundred grand 23:42:12 liches with mass haste 23:42:15 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 23:42:30 every monster has a band 23:42:40 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 23:42:43 which fork is that? 23:42:50 none, yet 23:42:56 tisk 23:44:17 chequers: a... musical band...!? 23:44:45 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:45:07 turn crawl into the guitar hero based roguelike it was meant to be 23:46:17 as rhythm tengoku is to literalizing music in a game by playing incoming notes, necrodancer is to crawl 23:46:31 okay that's _marginally_ mean but 23:46:38 regret-index: monsters generate asleep in the gauntlet, is that intended? 23:47:09 yes, though I suppose some dith stabber laughs at the entire portal 23:47:56 also, i wish short range portals had a confirmation 23:48:19 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:48:45 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest77305 23:49:01 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:49:11 i wonder if there's a way to alert all the audience to the player 23:49:21 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:49:22 it was definitely a but funny when going through as a stabber 23:49:35 monsters can be generated alert 23:49:49 they can generate awake but not alert 23:49:55 o 23:49:56 sorry 23:49:59 words starting with a 23:50:23 clearly with the condition of -tele planned and the flavour involved a perma-mark could be active but 23:51:11 ah yeah heh you can teleport into bad places 23:51:22 i guess you could mark the entire floor but the entry hall no_tele_into? 23:51:29 that might be more demonically evil 23:51:44 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:51:46 the concern was more about cheesy escapes using tele, iirc. fight to survive! 23:51:58 essentially correct 23:52:04 true 23:52:17 regret-index: sorry, talking over you 23:52:21 it's okay 23:52:38 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:53:05 what happens if an entire floor is marked no_tele_into and you try to teleport 23:53:27 presumably you just get the same message of no valid points to tele with e.g. a full floor 23:53:36 -!- Guest77305 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:53:40 this is a presumption and there's a chance everything just crashes. 23:54:18 one way to find out. 23:54:23 well, there's probably many ways, really 23:54:35 regret-index: i wonder if it would be possible to use the same gauntlet round maps for every tier, which would let you increase the variety of them 23:55:23 oh, there's a lot of potential variety readied, I just didn't bother with much randomization in the concept drafts 23:56:06 i especially like how you can partially see what a challenge is, but not completely 23:56:23 ? 23:56:26 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 23:57:01 if you walk right up to the wall dividing you from the next challenge, you aren't guaranteed to see all the monsters 23:57:49 that's... that's only really for stealth builds, as being noticed will still cause the close monsters to shout and wake up the far monsters to wander and eventually come to the barrier 23:57:49 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:58:02 haha 23:58:05 partially blind challenges is something to work with, though, hmm. 23:58:14 good point 23:58:24 maybe blocking off more of the los. anyway you're the expert