00:00:12 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1443-ge8f1551 (34) 00:00:17 possibly you could do something with aoe vs single target there 00:00:20 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01:10 oh yeah, the other thing I was going to suggest was giving an artifact equipment item to the ancestor, and letting you pick between a few items. But now that I think about it, most artifact properties don't work on monsters, so it might be a choice that requires spoilery knowledge 00:01:16 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:01:38 yep, aoe/single target was my idea 00:01:44 at least for knight 00:01:52 not sure how great a lategame single-target hexer is 00:02:28 -!- MBlaureNs has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:02:44 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:03:18 -!- koboldina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:05:31 seems iffy 00:05:36 mayyybe with strip resistance 00:06:34 -!- Blade__ has quit [Client Quit] 00:06:49 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:07:03 9790 is such a good bug. 00:08:26 !bug 9790 00:08:26 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9790 00:09:10 lol. strip resistance checks MR? 00:09:32 it partially checks mr or something weird like htat 00:09:56 this bug would be fixed by my PR 00:10:12 or would it? 00:10:12 (because I remove crap non-panlord-worthy spells from the spell list) 00:10:28 or would it? 00:10:37 it would 00:10:38 it would 00:11:00 I think you're biased. 00:11:13 -!- Blade| has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:11:18 because a friendly panlord once shattered me as a Gr? 00:11:21 partial mr checks may have to do with how player mr is a mess and a spriggan can be mr immune while a human isn't or something 00:12:38 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:13:37 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 00:14:12 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 00:14:31 -!- qqqqqqqqqq has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:15:53 chequers: long-standing bug actually. it also don't work if you autoexplore or autotravel, which comes up more often 00:16:05 the delay code is incomprehensible; fixes welcome 00:17:21 regret-index: I think it's to get around the 200 power cap 00:17:41 though you could probably just... not respect the cap 00:18:40 dcss-ca did it first 00:18:43 both, really 00:18:45 300 power cap magic dart 00:21:06 feature, not bug: pan lords hate you so much they try to find exploits in the game rules to be allowed to attack you 00:25:53 "nemelex has lost too many ways to kill the player" 00:26:09 amalloy: you may enjoy: 10094 00:26:27 !bug 10094 00:26:28 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10094 00:28:03 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:28:49 !tell lasty 93. Disadvantage: You lose your face...you are unable to eat, drink or read (but still perceive your surroundings...although with reduced LOS). Advantage: You gain the ability to adopt the face of a dead creature. You will slice the face and wear it as a mask, gaining different abilities depending on the general type of monster. 00:28:50 MinisculeSpore: OK, I'll let lasty know. 00:29:21 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:29:40 you're stealing ideas from tavern 00:30:24 someone suggested wearing skinning monsters to trick their compatriots until they got too close and saw under the rubbery and eyeless skin of their former orc friend was an eight-armed amphibious octopode with hands made of blades 00:30:25 technically 00:30:32 this is badforum 00:30:55 119. Lightning Bolt is at 1% failure but I cannot spam it because of spell hunger. Hat provides +5 Int which saves 50 food points for every Lightning Bolt and I have Swiftness to compensate pondering. 00:32:31 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1444-g3deba8e: Remove an unused return value 10(26 seconds ago, 2 files, 6+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3deba8e0a170 00:33:05 -!- WalrusKing_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:34:10 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:34:35 trivia: n_the (NAME_DEFINITE) is used for exactly one monster in exactly one vault 00:36:49 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:37:32 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1445-g94cdca5: Fixup vault mon derived undead names (9899) 10(63 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/94cdca5b2fe5 00:37:37 royal jelly? 00:37:38 I was wondering about that recently, actually 00:37:51 chequers: not a vault monster! 00:37:53 the royal jelly's title is innate 00:38:37 wucad has a spell list that ended up being the default, anyway, except with marginally more chances to cast each spell? which seems kind of silly 00:38:49 ha, you spoiled the game! 00:39:02 I hate all games. 00:39:30 brutal 00:39:33 the statue already has higher health and hd to be more noticeable, so it should probably lose such specificness 00:39:38 chequers: it's "the statue of wucad mu", if it wasn't clear from context 00:40:28 @??orange crystal statue 00:40:28 orange crystal statue (048) | Spd: 10 (07stationary) | HD: 10 | HP: 56-82 | AC/EV: 12/1 | 11non-living, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire++, 02cold++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 672 | Sp: brain feed [06!sil], draining gaze [06!sil], mass confusion [06!sil], shadow creatures [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: human. 00:40:32 @??the statue of wucad mu 00:40:32 unknown monster: "the statue of wucad mu" 00:40:34 @??wucad mu 00:40:34 unknown monster: "wucad mu" 00:40:41 @??statue of wucad mu 00:40:42 Statue of Wucad Mu (048) | Spd: 10 (07stationary) | HD: 20 | HP: 80 | AC/EV: 12/1 | 11non-living, unbreathing, 07vault | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire++, 02cold++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 1468 | Sp: brain feed [06!sil], draining gaze [06!sil], mass confusion [06!sil], shadow creatures [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: human. 00:40:44 ty 00:40:46 beat me to it 00:40:56 the best part of n_the clearly being that gretell doesn't understand it. 00:41:02 rip 00:41:06 hd doesn't even matter, ofc 00:41:15 unless you're polying the statue 00:41:16 mass confusion spellpower? 00:41:19 oh 00:41:21 right 00:41:25 slightly relevant 00:41:27 clearly someone's been brain feeding on me 00:41:47 wow, that spell frequency difference is... nil 00:42:10 weird stuff from when monster spellslots were made a thing, I suspect 00:42:42 MinisculeSpore: ah 00:43:26 "You hear the whispers of an unnatural audience. _There is an entrance to a demonic gauntlet on this level. Hurry and find it before they search elsewhere!" 00:43:44 what does it consist of? 00:43:52 not sure what the disappating verb/noisemaker words should be 00:44:09 "the demonic chatter grows impatient" 00:44:35 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:44:41 the portal template is 00:45:27 %git ffc47b1 00:45:27 07|amethyst02 * 0.16-a0-987-gffc47b1: Approximate player ghost monster_info MR (#7269) 10(1 year, 5 months ago, 3 files, 31+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ffc47b1fe4d8 00:45:51 "_You hear the (deincrementing adjective) (verb) of a (distance) (noisemaker) 00:46:14 oh 00:46:16 I caused a good bug 00:46:22 -!- nomicflux has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:46:46 -!- nxtlvl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:47:12 You hear the growing impatience of a demonic audience 00:48:32 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:48:32 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 00:49:57 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:50:22 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 00:51:11 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1446-g77c4e5a: Fix variable MR 10(43 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/77c4e5a7aead 00:55:42 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 00:58:24 -!- lnt has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:58:46 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:00:09 -!- cmcbot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:21 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:33 _You hear the (spreading -> anxious -> fierce -> frothing) restlessness of a distant crowd 01:00:47 need a fifth stage to fit anywhere in the chain 01:01:32 Intermittent tilesheet corruption on servers 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10304 by PleasingFungus 01:03:23 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:03:37 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:05:56 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:07:21 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1447-g421e043: Make dumb monsters shut up (9930) 10(29 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/421e04385605 01:11:13 frothing is a fantastic adjective 01:11:24 -!- oxeimon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:12:50 low murmur/restlessness/growing tetchiness/fierce complaints/frothing impatience of a distant crowd 01:13:34 impatience is not the right word 01:13:40 frothing madness 01:14:33 low murmur/restlessness/growing techniness/angry impatience/frothing madness 01:15:04 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:15:14 bit much 01:15:26 will consider later, need to finish this draft 01:15:27 MinisculeSpore: with your tilesheet corruption, does it happen mid-game 01:15:32 yeah 01:16:17 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:17:38 -!- Misder has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:19:28 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:19:29 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1447-g421e043 (34) 01:23:50 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:24:35 chequers: not afaik 01:24:47 this was supposed to be a clearing ground for various issues I saw listed when I was going through mantis 01:24:49 then i couldn't find most of them 01:24:52 so maybe I'm crazy 01:28:33 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1448-gb9d2b99: Fix ring of flames' expiry message (9892) 10(84 seconds ago, 2 files, 4+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b9d2b994ab14 01:28:46 -!- giann1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:30:47 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:32:05 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1449-g53f5581: Fix 'buggy note' message for demonspawn mut (9815) 10(38 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/53f558144883 01:35:45 -!- oxeimon1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:37:24 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:40:01 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:41:25 -!- Blade-_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:41:37 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1450-g2123858: Don't allow evolving petrified plants (8914) 10(46 seconds ago, 1 file, 8+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/212385856217 01:41:41 ah ok, was going to say mid-game is a known issue 01:41:50 chequers: ? 01:44:39 -!- roxton has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:51:00 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1451-g310a2a9: Squash misleading Fedhas messages (8769) 10(65 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/310a2a9b3b05 01:51:12 hm 01:51:16 actually that might be wrong... 01:52:58 what happens when one tries to evolve the demonic or withered plants 01:53:13 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:54:22 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1449-g53f5581 01:56:29 regret-index: I sincerely do not recall 01:56:50 will check in a sec 01:56:53 I remember it came up before 01:57:05 MinisculeSpore: 'tiles getting mismatched during play' is a known issue with webtiles-changes 01:57:19 eg your monster list shows a nonexistent monster 01:57:22 -!- FireSight has quit [] 01:57:40 oh 01:57:49 that's not restricted to webtiles-changes 01:57:55 it's a general webtiles thing afaik 01:58:05 there's a couple bugs on mantis about it, probably they should be consolidatd 01:58:20 along with the bugs for "previous level remains drawn after taking stairs" 01:59:13 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1452-g7beef34: Fix bush immunity code 10(20 seconds ago, 2 files, 18+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7beef3438806 02:00:21 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:03:54 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1453-g3384e49: Stop the frozen dead from shouting (8512) 10(51 seconds ago, 1 file, 6+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3384e4992b92 02:05:03 the glaciated destroyed unliving and summoned get to still stand, though, right 02:05:38 glaciate is as it ever was 02:06:03 109. I propose monsters that can cast spells drop their spellbooks. Said spell books would contain all the spells the monster can cast. (Possibly minus monster only spells, although I think that allowing the player to get his hands on them this way would be acceptable.) This would clear up the problem of spell book rarity. 02:06:03 hooray for me being too busy to do mantis again 02:06:17 too busy to do mantis? 02:06:21 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:06:29 don't quite follow your meaning (sincerely) 02:06:51 don't mind me 02:07:35 109 is a stealth Mu buff 02:07:43 get that sybol of torment from menkaure 02:07:46 haha 02:07:56 also, I think I broke mantis 02:07:58 oops 02:08:14 requested a very large graph from it, and now it's hanging when I try to look at anything 02:08:20 i am an irresponsible bug-tracker. 02:08:23 ??mantis 02:08:24 mantis[1/2]: To report bugs or submit new content like vaults, patches or tiles, go to: http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/main_page.php 02:08:34 looks fine to me 02:08:48 hm 02:08:54 yeah, works in a different browser 02:08:56 odd 02:09:05 -!- MinisculeSpore has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:09:33 -!- MinisculeSpore has joined ##crawl-dev 02:09:33 -!- MinisculeSpore is now known as BuggyFungus 02:09:45 quitting & restarting the browser fixed it 02:10:09 anyway, we now have more bugs closed than opened year-over-year 02:10:11 so i'm happy 02:12:12 -!- AlexDCSS85 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:15:10 for irc record, in reference to the " // ME_WHACK?" comment I added; it was originally ME_WHACK, but was changed to ME_ANNOY in 49704efe. "Zombies and objects (like dancing weapons) are supposed to allow hitting them from afar. This enables some interesting tactics." 02:15:20 which sounds, uh, bizarre 02:15:34 "interesting" 02:15:49 and might be related to 9152 02:16:15 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:16:52 lmao, elves used to summon rock worms? 02:16:54 that's amazing 02:17:08 "They're really annoying to kite into a place where you can actually kill them in Elf." 02:21:35 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1454-g5e6cd1e: Squash OTR-killed monster shouts similarly 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5e6cd1ed665b 02:23:45 -!- Hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:28:37 -!- BuggyFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:30:27 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 02:30:28 The build has errored. (master - 3deba8e #4921 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/112516293 02:30:28 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 02:31:25 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:32:19 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 02:32:20 -!- lnt has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:32:49 -!- oxeimon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:34:56 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:36:19 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:36:25 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:37:31 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:38:38 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:39:21 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:42:05 -!- Krakhan|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:43:41 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:46:36 !learn add amalloy_todo don't display player gold when on a --more-- screen from buying multiple items at once 02:46:36 amalloy todo[4/4]: don't display player gold when on a --more-- screen from buying multiple items at once 02:48:16 !learn add amalloy_todo"^f . is useless in a bazaar 02:48:16 amalloy todo"^f[1/1]: . is useless in a bazaar 02:48:19 er 02:48:23 !learn add amalloy_todo ^f . is useless in a bazaar 02:48:23 amalloy todo[5/5]: ^f . is useless in a bazaar 02:48:32 !learn del amalloy todo"^f 02:48:32 Deleted amalloy todo"^f[1/1]: . is useless in a bazaar 02:48:56 -!- Smello has quit [Quit: Bye!] 02:51:25 -!- oxeimon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:51:37 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 02:53:17 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1454-g5e6cd1e 02:54:45 -!- Blade-_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:00:21 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:01:28 -!- Nimuir has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:04:49 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:06:03 -!- Annabella has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:09:03 -!- grimmulfr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:13:35 New branch created: gauntlet (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/gauntlet 03:13:35 03regret-index02 07[gauntlet] * 0.18-a0-1455-g67c73e9: New portal vault: the Gauntlet (set-up, concept map) 10(9 minutes ago, 14 files, 401+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/67c73e925d03 03:13:44 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:14:47 klehehe. 03:14:49 -!- nosratheno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:16:29 -!- regret-index has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:16:52 -!- Blade-_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:17:05 this gauntlet thing sounds cool. which server is it on? 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Appears in Elf, Vaults, Crypt, Depths: not enough threatening portals that late. Permarock/glass structures, demons watching, a few teleporter choices of fights: contents thoroughly mix Lair branches, Elf, Crypt, Depths, Hells, Pan. 12:23:48 gauntlet[1/1]: Experimental late timed portal, %git 67c73e925, needs map submissions, tiles, general clean-up. Appears in Elf, Vaults, Crypt, Depths: not enough threatening portals that late. Permarock/glass structures, demons watching, a few teleporter choices of fights: contents thoroughly mix Lair branches, Elf, Crypt, Depths, Hells, Pan. 12:23:54 !learn add gauntlet Will have lots of gold, evocations / consumables / jewellery loot, no teleport status. 12:23:55 gauntlet[2/2]: Will have lots of gold, evocations / consumables / jewellery loot, no teleport status. 12:24:19 -!- spring_break_08 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:25:20 -!- MBlaureNs_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:26:09 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1454-g5e6cd1e (34) 12:29:35 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 12:33:05 -!- giann1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:33:54 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:34:31 -!- WebFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:42 regret-index: why not %git gauntlet? 12:35:08 * regret-index shrugs. 12:35:24 !learn edit gauntlet[1] s|67c73e925|gauntlet| 12:35:25 gauntlet[1/2]: Experimental late timed portal, %git gauntlet, needs map submissions, tiles, general clean-up. Appears in Elf, Vaults, Crypt, Depths: not enough threatening portals that late. Permarock/glass structures, demons watching, a few teleporter choices of fights: contents thoroughly mix Lair branches, Elf, Crypt, Depths, Hells, Pan. 12:36:08 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:36:48 the git gauntlet is a hazing ritual for new devs 12:37:18 new 12:37:46 regret-index: everything old is new again 12:38:02 which, apparently, is a furniture store in florida 12:38:24 that _was_ a pretty ancient draft. 12:38:56 not that this is an environment of much historical design assessment- 12:39:29 i've decided that your existence is an illusion; in reality, you are a series of manufactured entities (each identified with a different alias, of course), simulating one continuous consciousness. 12:39:39 it's the simplest explanation, from my perspective. 12:39:41 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:39:44 hence: new dev! 12:40:00 inaccurate. 12:41:36 well, as with all hypotheses, I suppose it'll have to be updated as new evidence comes in. 12:41:49 i'd hate to abandon the constraints of scientific rigour on something as important as this. 12:41:56 http://catandgirl.com/archive/2010-07-22-cgdarwin.gif 12:42:35 i read cat and girl for years and I am not really sure why. 12:42:46 which, i suppose, kind of falls into the same trap as described there... 12:43:24 http://catandgirl.com/archive/2016-01-19-cgfuturish.gif 12:43:52 sounds like a real 12:43:54 scary-go-round 12:43:55 imo 12:44:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:44:46 one has to give mordawwa five or six points for actually using the epitaph "hadad" 12:46:22 -!- grimmulfr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:47:02 -!- Zeor has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:47:11 i must have missed it. 12:48:51 this seems to be about ten more minutes of thought on whimsy than I've seen on the concepts and contents of the new portal draft 12:51:25 that sounds like it'd require me to turn my brain on. i've gotten far too few hours of sleep for something like that. 12:51:44 Just Another Sleepless Monday - Kanye West, _1989_ 12:52:03 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:53:35 -!- xcourier has quit [Client Quit] 12:53:38 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Client Quit] 13:00:21 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:01:07 -!- MBlaureNs_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:04:33 -!- agentgt_ has quit [] 13:06:13 -!- regret-index has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:08:03 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 13:08:43 ??stomp 13:08:43 stomp[1/1]: Ukayaw * power. Damages all monsters around the player. Damage is Invo + Invo% of target maxhp 13:09:15 !learn edit stomp s/Invo + .*/monster_current_hp / 6 + 2d(2 + Invo/2)./ 13:09:15 Syntax is: !learn edit TERM[NUM] s/REGEX/REPLACE/opts 13:09:28 !learn edit stomp s|Invo + .*|monster_current_hp / 6 + 2d(2 + Invo/2).| 13:09:29 No change: regex `Invo + .*` does not match `Ukayaw * power. Damages all monsters around the player. Damage is Invo + Invo% of target maxhp` 13:09:39 !learn edit stomp s|Invo .*|monster_current_hp / 6 + 2d(2 + Invo/2).| 13:09:39 stomp[1/1]: Ukayaw * power. Damages all monsters around the player. Damage is monster_current_hp / 6 + 2d(2 + Invo/2). 13:09:57 ??grand finale 13:09:57 grand finale[1/1]: Ukayaw ***** power. Blink to a non-mindless monster and explode it. Nearby monsters can be hit by flying bits for light damage. 13:11:54 !learn edit grand_finale s/$/ Base failure rate is 120%, minus (5*Invo), minus 1 for each piety over 5* you have. Using Grand Finale sets your piety to *. Grand Finale has a high hunger cost./ 13:11:55 grand finale[1/1]: Ukayaw ***** power. Blink to a non-mindless monster and explode it. Nearby monsters can be hit by flying bits for light damage. Base failure rate is 120%, minus (5*Invo), minus 1 for each piety over 5* you have. Using Grand Finale sets your piety to *. Grand Finale has a high hunger cost. 13:13:44 !learn edit grand_finale s/Base failure rate is 120%, minus (5*Invo), minus 1 for each piety over 5* you have./Base failure rate is 120 - (5*Invo) - (piety points over 5*) percent./ 13:13:45 No change: regex `Base failure rate is 120%, minus (5*Invo), minus 1 for each piety over 5* you have.` does not match `Ukayaw ***** power. Blink to a non-mindless monster and explode it. Nearby monsters can be hit by flying bits for light damage. Base failure rate is 120%, minus (5*Invo), minus 1 for each piety over 5* you have. Using Grand Finale sets your piety to *. Grand Finale has a high hung... 13:14:04 !learn edit grand_finale s/Base failure rate is 120%, minus (5\*Invo), minus 1 for each piety over 5\* you have./Base failure rate is 120 - (5*Invo) - (piety points over 5*) percent./ 13:14:04 No change: regex `Base failure rate is 120%, minus (5\*Invo), minus 1 for each piety over 5\* you have.` does not match `Ukayaw ***** power. Blink to a non-mindless monster and explode it. Nearby monsters can be hit by flying bits for light damage. Base failure rate is 120%, minus (5*Invo), minus 1 for each piety over 5* you have. Using Grand Finale sets your piety to *. Grand Finale has a high hu... 13:14:17 !learn edit grand_finale s/Base failure rate is 120\%, minus (5\*Invo), minus 1 for each piety over 5\* you have./Base failure rate is 120 - (5*Invo) - (piety points over 5*) percent./ 13:14:17 No change: regex `Base failure rate is 120\%, minus (5\*Invo), minus 1 for each piety over 5\* you have.` does not match `Ukayaw ***** power. Blink to a non-mindless monster and explode it. Nearby monsters can be hit by flying bits for light damage. Base failure rate is 120%, minus (5*Invo), minus 1 for each piety over 5* you have. Using Grand Finale sets your piety to *. Grand Finale has a high h... 13:14:19 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:14:20 ergh 13:14:56 !learn set grand_finale Ukayaw ***** power. Blink to a non-mindless monster and explode it. Nearby monsters can be hit by flying bits for light damage. Base failure rate is 120 - (5*Invo) - (piety points over 5*) percent. Using Grand Finale sets your piety to *. Grand Finale has a high hunger cost. 13:14:56 grand finale[1/1]: Ukayaw ***** power. Blink to a non-mindless monster and explode it. Nearby monsters can be hit by flying bits for light damage. Base failure rate is 120 - (5*Invo) - (piety points over 5*) percent. Using Grand Finale sets your piety to *. Grand Finale has a high hunger cost. 13:14:59 parens are significant 13:15:03 oh right 13:15:05 % is not 13:15:06 derp 13:15:26 I use regex enough that I should have noticed that 13:18:36 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:18:37 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 13:19:49 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:22:41 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Client Quit] 13:23:46 -!- Zekka has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:26:52 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:31:08 -!- flappity has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:32:14 -!- Gorice has joined ##crawl-dev 13:35:58 -!- Gorice has quit [Client Quit] 13:39:19 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:51:48 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:00:21 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:02:22 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:02:36 -!- WorkSight has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:05:53 -!- oxeimon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:06:20 -!- 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scummos__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:36:41 (does ME skip over allies?) 15:39:28 it does as of yesterday iirc 15:39:30 or some recent date 15:39:40 ah, that'd be right after I did it 15:39:47 %git :/[Mm]etabolic 15:39:47 07MarvinPA02 * 0.14-a0-3351-g5b524ce: Re-sort Metabolic Englaciation in spellbooks (simmarine) 10(1 year, 11 months ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5b524ce2c7e7 15:39:58 %git :/[Ee]nglacia 15:39:58 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-1349-g07bb513: Make monster englaciation not hit pals (|amethyst) 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 10+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/07bb513e6498 15:40:18 yesterday-ish 15:40:43 haha 15:45:24 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:45:26 ProzacElf: the knight ancestor is real good immediately, was my experience 15:53:45 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:54:36 -!- shinino has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:55:28 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 15:56:30 -!- oxeimon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:00:22 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:02:03 Chei Temporal Distortion does not redraw opened doors 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10305 by Barberik 16:02:09 Chei Temporal Distortion does not redraw opened doors 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10305 by Barberik 16:06:19 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:07:09 A seen monster will stay in the visible monsters screen until killed 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10306 by Barberik 16:07:15 A seen monster will stay in the visible monsters screen until killed 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10306 by Barberik 16:07:17 the knight ancestor was all right 16:07:41 all the hexer is doing so far is corona/slow/confuse 16:07:48 but that's pretty useful early 16:08:08 the battlemage still seems like the worst though 16:08:22 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:09:37 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 16:12:35 -!- 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.echo $(!bug 10088) 16:27:08 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10088 16:27:16 WebFungus: I don't have a specific plan, but come up with some sort of devolution on the same -- pull out syllables and replace them with similar ones and/or remove a few 16:27:27 *on the name 16:27:43 what are the advantages of this? 16:27:50 With the goal of making the name feel similar to the character's name 16:28:24 WebFungus: 1) it could be an interesting flavor element -- the ancestor's name feels related to your name; 2) it reduces the silliness of being able to arbitrarily rename your ancestor. 16:28:38 I don't have any problems with being able to rename your ancestor. 16:28:48 The malleability of memory is a core part of H's current theme. 16:29:01 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:29:03 I just think it invites silliness and tackiness. 16:29:09 Not that that's not fun too 16:29:11 heh....what's the max character length on the rename? 16:29:11 the hexer is amazing once it gets mass confusion & metabolic englaciation 16:29:11 chequers: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 16:29:15 !messages 16:29:16 (1/1) WebFungus said (4m 45s ago): !bug 10088 16:29:16 probably huge 16:29:21 79 or 80 characters, I believe. 16:29:21 It just feels unusual in crawl 16:29:26 Right now players can choose their own names. 16:29:30 ah good 16:29:34 i think the battlemage would be amazing if you are also a battlemage 16:29:54 so i can honor my ancestor Hammerfist Lasereyes 16:30:00 The game prints a lot more messages including a third party's name than the character's name 16:31:09 I mean, if you don't want the custom name functionality to be in the game, that's an understandable position. I don't think that the name-based-on-player's-name approach fills any of the same roles that the custom name thing does, though. 16:31:24 -!- MBlaureNs__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:31:36 If you'd want to argue for it, I think it'd be more reasonable to argue for it as a replacement for the current "archaic name list" that default ancestor names are drawn from. 16:31:49 I don't feel incredibly strong about it 16:32:00 But overall I do like it better 16:32:36 I'll make a note. 16:32:47 My next ancestor will be named "You are world's greatest human being. Your ancestor" 16:32:47 At some point I'm going to need to declare H note bankruptcy. 16:32:52 ha 16:32:53 Probably right after I declare !messages bankruptcy. 16:33:19 Lasty_: one last question about the procgen name thing: what would you do about gender? 16:33:20 "You are the world's greatest human being. Your ancestor hits the hobgoblin." 16:33:41 shortening the custom name max length is pretty simple :) 16:33:49 WebFungus: I wouldn't worry about it. What phonemes correspond to each gender changes heavily by region and language. 16:34:17 So would you have random genders, then? 16:34:42 Sure, why not? Or alternately, make them all "it" until the player changes them. 16:35:32 -!- giann1 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 16:35:36 I feel like making them 'its' by default would lose a big part of their 'personality', such as it is. 16:35:50 Random genders is equally fine w/ me 16:36:17 -!- giann has joined ##crawl-dev 16:36:23 Feels a bit strange to have something be randomly gendered when its name is recognizably a variant of the player's. 16:36:36 WebFungus: maybe, but the player can't select their own gender 16:36:53 Maybe that variant is the other-gendered variant of the name 16:37:00 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:37:05 * WebFungus shrugs 16:37:12 The Alexander/Alexandra of fantasy-murder-world 16:37:19 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:37:25 As the cruel and brutal arbiter of my own god's flavor, I don't think I'm going to implement this 16:37:32 but it's not fundamentally unviable, just not my style. 16:37:34 WebFungus: and I'm not gonna push you 16:37:37 :) 16:37:38 o/ 16:37:39 Just a suggestion 16:37:43 o/ 16:38:48 man, 9672 is a really good bug 16:39:03 I wonder if it's been fixed? it sounds familiar 16:39:04 Lasty_: you can't select a gender for yourself, but the game doesn't pick one for you 16:39:14 it just never uses gendered pronouns to refer to you 16:39:31 amalloy: true 16:39:41 i would be totally in favor of this for ancestors if it were possible. but i think letting the player pick is way better than forcing one on them 16:40:04 amalloy: well, no one is forcing a gender on the player character 16:40:28 -!- jetnerd_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:40:48 right, i mean you were proposing selecting a random gender for the ancestor 16:40:55 yeah 16:41:02 with the understanding that you'd leave in the option to change it 16:41:08 that's how things already are 16:41:23 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:41:24 . . . so everything's fine then? :) 16:41:24 well, i mean it's not "random", it's tied to the randomly-selected initial name 16:41:50 yes, as-is things are great, because it's exactly the feature set i asked for 16:41:55 haha 16:42:10 then this jerk Lasty comes around and says "don't let players rename ancestors because you can name then dickbutt" 16:42:12 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:42:26 (you can already name your character dickbutt) 16:43:11 :p 16:43:40 L did have a response to that point when I brought it up, fwiw 16:44:07 "amalloy licks dickbutt. Your ancestor hits the hobgoblin." 16:44:15 yeah, i saw it 16:45:18 it's like, who cares if the player wants to make their own game experience tacky. i don't call the police because my neighbors painted their bedroom walls bright purple 16:45:31 you don't? 16:45:43 To be fair, I don't recall suggesting we call the police on anyone. 16:45:49 you didn't? 16:45:58 ProzacElf: I was working my way up to it! 16:46:02 ahhh 16:46:25 but crawl doesn't even let you rob shops - how could any Kops appear? 16:46:34 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:46:40 We don't currently give config options to allow the player to rename uniques. 16:46:43 how often have you seen the kops respond to a vending machine robbery? 16:47:15 -!- nomicflux has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:47:22 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:47:41 Lasty_: I'm not philosophically opposed to doing so, though I don't see any advantage to doing so in general, either - it might be funny if restricted to some specific unique? or maybe not 16:48:23 WebFungus: allow the player to nominate one specific unique as their official Worst Nightmare 16:48:31 and you can configure how that worst nightmare behaves 16:48:35 no, no 16:48:36 or rather, appears 16:48:37 Bill O'Reilly and Ann Coulter come into view. You blow up Ann Coulter! 16:48:38 you replace the silly title thing 16:48:46 no more Sigmund the Dreaded 16:48:53 here comes Sigmund the Oh God Why Not Again 16:49:08 -!- WebFungus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:56:02 -!- owl has joined ##crawl-dev 16:57:48 -!- halv has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:00:22 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:01:57 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:03:29 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 17:04:40 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:05:16 -!- Blade- has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:09:39 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:11:51 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:14:43 -!- mamgar has quit [Client Quit] 17:23:31 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 17:29:36 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:29:43 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:30:45 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 17:31:48 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 17:31:48 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:32:00 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Quit: wheeeeee] 17:32:35 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:33:31 -!- Nimuir has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:45:31 -!- WorkSight has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:45:55 -!- MBlaureNs has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:49:51 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:52:44 -!- Athaboros has quit [Client Quit] 17:52:56 |amethyst: i just encountered some kind of weird crash-like behavior on cszo, but it didn't seem to produce a crash milestone. i logged in as comborobin on trunk, did some stuff, and hit ?# (to browse the morgue). this caused the game to become unresponsive, and then eventually i was back at the login screen 17:53:00 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:53:30 logging back in, all the stuff i did is rolled back (i hadn't left the current floor; i presume if i did, that would trigger a save). i can reproduce this by pressing ?# again 17:55:25 ?# works fine on cao 17:57:34 amalloy: Have you backed up the save? 17:57:57 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:58:14 i hadn't, but i have now and can still repro: https://dobrazupa.org/saves/comborobin-crawl-git-77c4e5a7ae-160229-2257.tar.bz2 17:59:13 -!- } has quit [] 18:00:23 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:40 <|amethyst> amalloy: I see a crash log or two in comborobin's morgue directory 18:00:40 |amethyst: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 18:00:49 <|amethyst> In particuar I note: lines = std::vector of length 16777216, capacity 16777216 18:01:17 |amethyst: whoever played this save before i picked it up was using HDA's rcfile 18:01:41 <|amethyst> though I don't *think* there's a ulimit on the processes, so that 128 MiB shouldn't be enough to kill it 18:01:42 so perhaps there is some lua in there that generates unwieldy stuff 18:02:10 <|amethyst> oh 18:02:19 <|amethyst> 128 MiB just in pointers to the lines 18:02:24 <|amethyst> 16 million lines 18:02:51 <|amethyst> gdb is not showing them all, of course :) 18:02:53 -!- WebFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 18:03:04 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 18:03:09 that's a lot of lines 18:03:20 is this comborobin the zig farmer 18:03:25 apocalypse zig farmer 18:03:57 comborobin the L20 KoWz of legend 18:04:10 !comborobin 18:04:12 comborobin progress: 610/615 (99%) 18:04:16 deng 18:04:22 !comborobinchar 18:04:26 ^ demoralizing list 18:04:28 Best chars to play with comborobin: 4x CeCj 18:04:55 haha 18:05:00 <|amethyst> hmm 18:05:52 <|amethyst> startlin from line 776 each line consists of a single space 18:06:03 <|amethyst> amalloy: does ?: crash too? 18:06:22 no, works flawlessly 18:06:36 <|amethyst> amalloy: hm 18:06:38 <|amethyst> scroll to this line 18:06:40 i can scroll from top to bottom with pgup/pgdown 18:06:45 <|amethyst> D:2 | beem: 33. comborobin, XL27 KoWz, T:60883: 18:06:51 <|amethyst> I want to see what comes after that 18:07:36 there's no search function, is there? 18:07:47 there's a lot of chatter so it's hard to find that even on just the D:2 messages :P 18:07:53 <|amethyst> hm, good question 18:08:39 <|amethyst> hm 18:08:41 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 18:08:50 <|amethyst> looks like it went back up to D:2 after D:3 18:08:54 what does the morgue itself look like 18:09:03 <|amethyst> there it is 18:09:07 5197 | D:2 | beem: 33. comborobin, XL27 KoWz, T:60883: 18:09:07 <|amethyst> a URL 18:09:07 | http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/comborobin/morgue-co 18:09:08 | mborobin-20160229-022203.txt 18:09:11 <|amethyst> hm 18:09:21 <|amethyst> I wonder if trying to word-break that is failing 18:09:58 <|amethyst> bam 18:10:03 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-a0-1454-g5e6cd1e (34) 18:13:22 <|amethyst> amalloy: I don't have time to investigate further, but look into wordwrap_line and what happens if you give it a string like "foo baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar" where the second word is wider than the wrap width 18:14:06 <|amethyst> amalloy: probably it should fall back to chopping in the middle of the word, but that's not what happens now 18:14:14 &dump comborobin cszo trunk 18:14:16 http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/comborobin/comborobin.txt 18:14:53 <|amethyst> # (as opposed to ?#) doesn't call wordwrap_line because it doesn't need to be displayed on-screen 18:15:03 makes sense 18:16:06 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:16:46 reading wordwrap_line reminds me of like...CS101 classes, or maybe interview problems. "how do you reverse a string in-place in C?" 18:17:04 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:17:11 <|amethyst> it's definitely very C 18:18:02 !source wordwrap_line 18:18:02 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/stringutil.cc#l142 18:18:12 wow 18:18:26 two lines to pure C 18:22:12 -!- Galewind has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:22:47 <|amethyst> hm, looks like this would only happen when 1. the line starts with a space followed by a too-long word (but remember that the line is changed by this function, so even if the original didn't) and 2. there was indentation, so the space gets re-added to the string being modified 18:23:14 <|amethyst> if the line starts with the long word and no indentation, it looks like it should break in the middle of a word 18:24:00 <|amethyst> probably the if (space) cp = space; thing is what needs to be fixed, but not sure exactly how 18:24:27 <|amethyst> something like "if space && space is not inside the indent, cp = space" 18:24:48 <|amethyst> that if is what makes it word-wrap rather than just column-wrap, by backing up to the last space 18:26:04 <|amethyst> alternatively, further up, don't *set* space unless you have already seen a non-space character 18:26:20 <|amethyst> would need some regression testing to make sure that doesn't screw up the handling if empty lines 18:26:26 <|amethyst> s/if/of/ 18:27:28 good function for unit tests 18:30:00 <|amethyst> I was thinking exactly that 18:30:30 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:31:05 -!- oxeimon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:34:34 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:38:01 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 18:38:12 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:39:47 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:40:06 someone want to commit my panlord tweaks? 18:40:19 maybe it'll make life harder for these dang zig scummers 18:41:35 wow, I'd forgotten you'd removed witches 18:41:37 crazy... 18:42:21 i haven't removed witches!!!!!!! 18:42:40 - resists |= MR_RES_ELEC; // no rElec++ for Pan lords, because of witches 18:42:48 + 1, 3, 18:43:29 hm 18:43:33 doesn't look like you actually removed prism? 18:43:40 contrary to certain claims a certain someone certainly made 18:43:53 I only see throw flame/frost and tele other here 18:44:29 also, did you want to fix the name of the "panord description" commit before it got pushed? 18:44:43 (so sad that you removed the ghoul special case there...) 18:44:48 panord is a historical monument 18:44:51 never forget 18:44:59 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest27107 18:45:08 oh, it's all over the logs now 18:45:09 we'll NEVER forget. 18:45:25 also, i would have one more win if panords couldn't cast prism 18:45:44 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:45:54 ! 18:45:57 ? 18:45:59 one crafty panord cast a prism near me, and then chain lightning 18:46:00 hm 18:46:07 brutal 18:46:08 haha 18:46:29 !lg . fo t nrune=3 !won 18:46:30 1. amalloy the Formicid Cataclysm (L27 FoAr of Qazlal), blasted by Qurch the pandemonium lord (chain lightning) on Depths:5 on 2015-11-08 00:55:02, with 637206 points after 76381 turns and 6:26:43. 18:46:48 pandemonium ord 18:47:06 i died while ascending the stairs to U:4. good game 18:47:21 !lg nrook d:1 max=score 18:47:22 61. nrook the Ogre Mage (L27 OgFE of Vehumet), slain by an Executioner on D:1 on 2014-04-25 05:55:44, with 686228 points after 183410 turns and 18:43:17. 18:47:24 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:47:31 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:47:37 orb run deaths = best deaths 18:47:45 WebFungus: a lot of spells were removed https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235/files 18:47:47 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:47:49 it was my first (so far only) orb run death 18:47:56 !lm . orb / won 18:47:59 48/49 milestones for amalloy (orb): N=48/49 (97.96%) 18:48:07 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:48:07 WebFungus: oh, you were looking at just hte 'remove super dumb' spells 18:48:08 chequers: hm, oh 18:48:10 I missed the - yeah 18:48:18 they could probably be squashed 18:48:24 since i'm fixing the typo anyway 18:48:26 and the panord killed me, but *really* what killed me was my poor handling of a tormentor on the previous floor 18:48:32 hm, tornado panlords... 18:48:47 yeah, i'm quite surprised nobody has commented on that 18:48:51 tbh i'm a little scared of putting monster tornado in more places, since it's... kind of known for bugs 18:48:54 and shatter 18:48:56 also lom lobon uniqueness etc 18:49:11 but they can already cast firestorm so w/e 18:49:23 -!- Guest27107 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:49:25 they could also already cast shatter 18:49:39 which I remember from complaints about non-flying gargoyle instadeath 18:50:04 !lg * gr cikiller~~pan kaux~~shatter 18:50:05 12. Jamo the Slayer (L27 GrFi of Okawaru), blasted by Ahits the pandemonium lord (Shatter) on D:5 on 2016-01-17 04:16:23, with 649125 points after 87198 turns and 6:39:14. 18:50:12 !lg * gr cikiller~~pan kaux~~shatter x=tdam 18:50:13 12. [tdam=144] Jamo the Slayer (L27 GrFi of Okawaru), blasted by Ahits the pandemonium lord (Shatter) on D:5 on 2016-01-17 04:16:23, with 649125 points after 87198 turns and 6:39:14. 18:50:19 !lg * gr cikiller~~pan kaux~~shatter x=tdam,status 18:50:20 12. [tdam=144;status=] Jamo the Slayer (L27 GrFi of Okawaru), blasted by Ahits the pandemonium lord (Shatter) on D:5 on 2016-01-17 04:16:23, with 649125 points after 87198 turns and 6:39:14. 18:50:23 !lg * gr cikiller~~pan kaux~~shatter x=avg(dam) 18:50:24 12 games for * (gr cikiller~~pan kaux~~shatter): avg(dam)=135.17 18:50:27 !lg * gr cikiller~~pan kaux~~shatter x=max(dam) 18:50:28 12 games for * (gr cikiller~~pan kaux~~shatter): max(dam)=189 18:50:31 rip indeed 18:50:38 !lg * gr cikiller~~pan kaux~~shatter x=avg(mhp) 18:50:39 12 games for * (gr cikiller~~pan kaux~~shatter): avg(mhp)=183.83 18:50:50 !lg * gr cikiller~~pan kaux~~shatter / status~~flying 18:50:50 0/12 games for * (gr cikiller~~pan kaux~~shatter): N=0/12 (0.00%) 18:50:55 !lg * gr cikiller~~pan kaux~~shatter x=status 18:50:56 12. [status=] Jamo the Slayer (L27 GrFi of Okawaru), blasted by Ahits the pandemonium lord (Shatter) on D:5 on 2016-01-17 04:16:23, with 649125 points after 87198 turns and 6:39:14. 18:50:58 hm 18:51:00 weird 18:51:02 !lg * status~~fly 18:51:05 105238. guyde the Magician (L2 DsIE), succumbed to a kobold's poison on D:5 on 2016-02-29 23:51:43, with 14 points after 389 turns and 0:01:24. 18:51:07 !lg * status~~fly x=status 18:51:08 105238. [status=brilliant,lethally poisoned (0 -> -2),flying (expiring)] guyde the Magician (L2 DsIE), succumbed to a kobold's poison on D:5 on 2016-02-29 23:51:43, with 14 points after 389 turns and 0:01:24. 18:51:15 quaff-iding flight 18:51:26 anyway, yeah, you're not gonna die to shatter if you're flying 18:51:31 since the damage reduction is so huge 18:51:43 unless you're Gr 18:51:49 amalloy: apparently not even then! 18:51:55 maybe to jorgrun? 18:52:08 i once almost died when jorgrun entered my LoS as a Gr 18:52:13 but it turned out i was accidentally not flying 18:52:16 fixed 18:52:17 see? 18:52:20 !lg * killer=jorgrun kaux~~shatter gr / status~~flying 18:52:21 0/107 games for * (killer=jorgrun kaux~~shatter gr): N=0/107 (0.00%) 18:52:26 panord is no more 18:52:26 !! 18:52:32 !lg * recent gr / status~~flying 18:52:35 6095/73197 games for * (recent gr): N=6095/73197 (8.33%) 18:52:46 when do they get flying? 18:52:47 xl 14? 18:52:49 yeah 18:52:55 !lg * recent gr xl>=14 / status~~flying 18:52:57 4929/6947 games for * (recent gr xl>=14): N=4929/6947 (70.95%) 18:53:13 wow, this reminds me. I had a dream a while ago where I single handedly added tome-esque animations to dcss 18:53:18 (this was part of the steam release) 18:53:31 and i added one for shatter that accidentally caused epileptic fits 18:53:38 shatter actually has an animation 18:53:41 in offline tiles 18:53:46 and |amethyst said to me "i'm sorry chequers, but we can't accept any more of your commits" 18:53:49 hahaha 18:54:17 fr: turn the cool animations on for webtiles 18:54:21 like the banishment one 18:54:32 (iirc they caused horrible performance issues) 18:55:07 i bet you could do them with fancy css now 18:55:35 fr!!!! 18:55:41 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1300-g768198c: Make panlord AC & EV (mostly) inversely correlated. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 7+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/768198ce1617 18:55:41 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1301-g0c59b82: Give a few panlords rF+++/rC+++. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0c59b822d2ea 18:55:41 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1302-g7d44d62: Give panlords more variable rElec levels. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 9+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7d44d6211117 18:55:41 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1303-g62c129b: Tweak and upgrade panlord spells. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 58+ 104-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/62c129b7828c 18:55:41 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1304-g193c5b4: Make non-spellcaster panlords scarier. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 13+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/193c5b442a5d 18:55:41 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1305-g4b20734: Simplify panlord description logic. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 92+ 96-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4b2073450e71 18:55:54 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1300-g768198c: Make panlord AC & EV (mostly) inversely correlated. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 7+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/768198ce1617 18:55:54 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1301-g0c59b82: Give a few panlords rF+++/rC+++. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0c59b822d2ea 18:55:54 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1302-g7d44d62: Give panlords more variable rElec levels. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 9+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7d44d6211117 18:55:54 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1303-g62c129b: Tweak and upgrade panlord spells. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 58+ 104-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/62c129b7828c 18:55:54 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1304-g193c5b4: Make non-spellcaster panlords scarier. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 13+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/193c5b442a5d 18:55:54 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1305-g4b20734: Simplify panlord description logic. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 92+ 96-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4b2073450e71 18:55:59 i'm a backend dude 18:57:03 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:59:04 -!- jetnerd has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:59:32 -!- Bcadren_ is now known as Bcadren 18:59:56 i'm still kind of nervous about tornado 19:00:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:00:23 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:19 in what way 19:01:42 [15:49] tbh i'm a little scared of putting monster tornado in more places, since it's... kind of known for bugs 19:02:15 -!- acb has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:02:26 ref e.g. !bug 8636, !bug 9203 19:03:06 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:03:19 these bugs are of the 'instakill high-level players' variety 19:03:53 -!- MakMorn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:07:23 oh 19:07:40 could also be nervous about tornado because it would often kill other enemies 19:08:16 do panlords particularly care? 19:08:17 also the game would probably break in some way in a pan megazig 19:09:08 haha 19:09:14 ten tornados going at once 19:09:22 ..very briefly 19:10:12 take Tornado off of panlords 19:10:12 Grunt: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 19:10:20 we don't have it there because it obliterates their entourage 19:10:27 which has been considered Bad in the past 19:10:41 and in zigs it would obliterate other panlords yeah 19:10:49 -!- PsyMar has quit [Quit: witty quit message goes here] 19:11:19 unless the pan lords conspired to all cast tornado at once 19:11:22 -!- grimmulfr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:11:42 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:11:56 -!- fallenxxxsky has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:12:40 Will No One Rid Me Of These Meddling Tornadolords? 19:13:56 ok, i'll drop it 19:13:58 how about shatter 19:14:06 or any of the other high level aoe spells I added 19:14:15 Shatter was there before, wasn't it? 19:14:19 also, regarding entourage, summoner panlords don't get aoe spells any more 19:14:32 (but there's still the levelgen-placed entourage, ofc) 19:14:41 shatter was there before 19:14:41 yes 19:16:11 tornado gone 19:16:23 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1303-g05c187f: Tweak and upgrade panlord spells. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 57+ 104-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/05c187f94ab8 19:16:23 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1304-g2849d24: Make non-spellcaster panlords scarier. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 13+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2849d24bba5b 19:16:23 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/235 * 0.18-a0-1305-g2d5df2f: Simplify panlord description logic. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 92+ 96-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2d5df2f40b9a 19:16:36 !tornado WebFungus 19:16:36 Grunt gestures wildly while chanting. A great vortex of air appears and lifts Grunt up! WebFungus is engulfed in raging winds. 19:16:49 * WebFungus spins like a top! 19:17:05 Grunt: do you want more time to look it over, or shall I merge it now? 19:18:02 !shrug 19:18:02 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:18:12 -!- themonkeybob11 is now known as Guest38420 19:18:13 i feel like there are still some slightly silly spells for panlords to have, like stema ball 19:18:32 fr: hellsteam 19:18:38 03chequers02 07* 0.18-a0-1300-g768198c: Make panlord AC & EV (mostly) inversely correlated. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 7+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/768198ce1617 19:18:38 03chequers02 07* 0.18-a0-1301-g0c59b82: Give a few panlords rF+++/rC+++. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0c59b822d2ea 19:18:38 03chequers02 07* 0.18-a0-1302-g7d44d62: Give panlords more variable rElec levels. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 9+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7d44d6211117 19:18:38 03chequers02 07* 0.18-a0-1303-g05c187f: Tweak and upgrade panlord spells. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 57+ 104-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/05c187f94ab8 19:18:38 03chequers02 07* 0.18-a0-1304-g2849d24: Make non-spellcaster panlords scarier. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 13+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2849d24bba5b 19:18:38 03chequers02 07* 0.18-a0-1305-g2d5df2f: Simplify panlord description logic. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 92+ 96-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2d5df2f40b9a 19:18:38 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1461-g3de893e: Merge pull request #235 from alexjurkiewicz/panlord-tweaks 10(5 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3de893e0c752 19:19:56 also I'm still unsure about how effective hexes are on pan lords in general 19:20:15 but eh, this PR is no worse in either of those areas 19:20:27 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:21:12 03chequers02 07* 0.18-a0-1300-g768198c: Make panlord AC & EV (mostly) inversely correlated. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 7+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/768198ce1617 19:21:12 03chequers02 07* 0.18-a0-1301-g0c59b82: Give a few panlords rF+++/rC+++. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0c59b822d2ea 19:21:12 03chequers02 07* 0.18-a0-1302-g7d44d62: Give panlords more variable rElec levels. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 9+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7d44d6211117 19:21:12 03chequers02 07* 0.18-a0-1303-g05c187f: Tweak and upgrade panlord spells. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 57+ 104-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/05c187f94ab8 19:21:12 03chequers02 07* 0.18-a0-1304-g2849d24: Make non-spellcaster panlords scarier. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 13+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2849d24bba5b 19:21:12 03chequers02 07* 0.18-a0-1305-g2d5df2f: Simplify panlord description logic. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 92+ 96-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2d5df2f40b9a 19:21:12 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1461-g3de893e: Merge pull request #235 from alexjurkiewicz/panlord-tweaks 10(3 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3de893e0c752 19:22:05 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 19:22:30 -!- feksclaus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:23:26 now I just need gammafunk to return and merge my vaults 19:23:41 imo don't hold your breath on that 19:23:58 if only there was some other vault dev in the channel........ 19:24:57 no idea who you mean 19:24:58 >.> 19:25:15 <_< 19:25:20 they're pretty small vaults tbh 19:26:40 -!- regret-index has joined ##crawl-dev 19:26:53 as the trumpeter israfil is overcome by sorrow three times every day at the sight of hell so too am I regularly vexed 19:26:57 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:27:36 while generic vaults are good in nearly all places generic overflow altars do not really get my approval or my disdain. 19:27:48 oh, hm 19:27:52 a million other realms for things to matter before them 19:27:52 you did return just at the right time 19:28:16 as if we're not always being watched 19:28:18 and judged 19:28:21 since gammafunk has proceeded onward to the realm of valinor 19:28:33 we needed another vaults dev 19:28:38 oh has he? I thought he was just afk for a while 19:28:48 he says he's taking a break from devving 19:28:52 of indefinite duration, afaik 19:28:57 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/193 * 0.18-a0-1315-g6697e08: Add some vaults. 10(12 hours ago, 2 files, 81+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6697e0822473 19:28:57 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/193 * 0.18-a0-1316-gab4e2d5: Tweak evilmike_wizard_prison. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 30+ 39-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ab4e2d52dd7b 19:29:00 potato, potato 19:29:00 ah ok 19:29:05 * regret-index sighs. 19:29:12 gammafunk is apparently not taking a break from webtiles smugness 19:29:14 you know my reluctance. 19:29:19 amalloy: he never would! 19:29:21 regret-index: ah, sorry 19:29:38 he showed up to tell me i was playing comborobin wrong by using console 19:29:38 is regret-index someone i should know by another name 19:29:40 there are never apologies enough! 19:29:46 the other names are dead. 19:29:58 dead names are not forgotten 19:30:03 but forever lie...? 19:30:08 -!- Zekka has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:30:37 if you have to be told you'll never understand, anyway 19:31:00 ok, regret-index 19:31:11 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:31:26 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/193 * 0.18-a0-1315-g6697e08: Add some vaults. 10(13 hours ago, 2 files, 81+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6697e0822473 19:31:26 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/193 * 0.18-a0-1316-gab4e2d5: Tweak evilmike_wizard_prison. 10(13 hours ago, 1 file, 30+ 39-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ab4e2d52dd7b 19:32:51 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 19:33:19 -!- WebFungus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:33:20 what is really needed _specifically_ as a vault dev, anyway, besides eyes and hands going over the indefinite lists until both are worn down to streaming dust 19:33:24 goddamnit pf 19:34:43 -!- lnt has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:37:53 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:38:34 don't worry, the log will be read 19:39:25 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:39:36 !lg * lair:8 killer=worm 19:39:37 3. advil the Cleaver (L14 HOFE of Kikubaaqudgha), slain by a worm on Lair:8 (wormcave) on 2015-03-10 00:02:49, with 44501 points after 29374 turns and 3:23:59. 19:39:59 !lg * lair:8 killer=worm s=name 19:40:00 3 games for * (lair:8 killer=worm): swinepaste, advil, B1inky 19:41:40 vaults submissions on mantis: orc is now already a burst of overly-stretched monsters enough that I highly disapprove of a watery encompass end. ood wizards vault can use the accepted vault monster and the regular monster with oods. nicolae's are fine (shop vaults could use weighting adjustments, krakens needs trimming to three and loot, mimics need low weight, not a chance for 108 heads.) 19:43:29 randfort is uglier than my old work and the sets need more randomization + marginally more common orcs and the presence of moats is tiresome but there are worse sins altogether 19:44:40 all of what I just typed out means extremely little, of course. 19:44:58 to be back in the months when I had the idea this was going to die. 19:45:00 -!- regret-index has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:45:19 charming 19:45:23 -!- Arianwen has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:46:04 -!- feksclaus has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 19:48:12 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:52:25 -!- Arianwen has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:53:16 -!- serq has quit [Quit: suddenly gone...] 19:55:35 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 19:57:07 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest78798 19:59:01 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 20:00:18 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:00:22 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:11 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:01:24 -!- Guest78798 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:03:28 -!- IceBlind has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20:03:45 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 20:07:56 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 20:10:22 -!- owl has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:12:24 -!- hellmonk has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:15:37 -!- Mojo_Nixon has quit [Client Quit] 20:17:28 -!- the_glow1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:18:57 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:19:31 -!- BuggyFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:25:40 buggyfungus? 20:25:56 @??ugly thing col:disco 20:25:56 buggy ugly thing (00u) | Spd: 10 (move: 90%) | HD: 12 | HP: 54-79 | AC/EV: 4/10 | Dam: 17 | 10doors | Res: 06magic(40) | Vul: 11silver | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 553 | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 20:31:14 Lightli: i'm in hiding 20:31:16 don't tell anyone 20:31:18 k 20:31:23 Grunt: rude, imo. 20:32:14 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:34:11 @??very ugly thing col:disco 20:34:11 buggy very ugly thing (00u) | Spd: 10 (move: 90%) | HD: 18 | HP: 80-116 | AC/EV: 6/10 | Dam: 27 | 10doors | Res: 06magic(40) | Vul: 11silver | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 1443 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 20:34:34 >.> 20:35:04 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:38:39 -!- xczxc has quit [Client Quit] 20:39:45 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:44:24 !firestorm Grunt 20:44:24 BuggyFungus points at Grunt and mumbles some strange words. A raging storm of fire appears! The great blast of fire engulfs Grunt! 20:44:31 great storm of bugs 20:45:20 !glaciate BuggyFungus 20:45:21 Grunt gestures at BuggyFungus while chanting. Grunt conjures a mighty blast of ice! The great icy blast engulfs BuggyFungus! 20:45:21 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:45:28 great buggy blast 20:46:37 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:48:48 hm 20:48:59 i should look at that old glaciate bug 20:49:07 ? 20:49:38 ??amalloy todo[http 20:49:39 amalloy_todo[3/5]: check out autoexplore problem in http://crawl.akrasiac.org/saves/amalloy-crawl-git-2c957a37b4-160228-0034.tar.bz2 20:50:12 anyone want to figure this one out? autoexplore continued walking for two full turns with a bunch of monsters in view, but i have no idea where to look for the problematic code 20:50:20 hypothesis 20:50:22 one sec 20:50:31 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 20:50:42 !bug 6503 20:50:42 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6503 20:50:42 the monsters were asleep fwiw 20:50:51 yeah 20:50:53 check out that bug 20:50:54 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:51:02 and comment #3 on it 20:51:22 oh dang, i was ^ash 20:52:03 you mean neil's? i don't think that applies: this brought me adjacent to a monster, or nearly so 20:53:25 hm 20:53:29 consistent with some of the other reports, thoug 20:53:48 also, channel poll: should monsters attempt to cast/zap paralyse at a currently-paralysed player? 20:53:57 that is, should they be that dumb? 20:55:00 i vote no 20:55:07 i think it's good for them to be dumb to a certain extent (e.g. trying to paralyse/slow formicids, since there's no fun if you can't even see their attempts bounce off your stasis), but there is a limit 20:55:12 ontoclasm: good enough! 20:55:24 oh god, democracy in action 20:55:27 i am the state 20:55:53 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1462-g7ddb43b: Don't try to paralyse paralysed players (8691) 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 16+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7ddb43b57b49 20:56:01 quorum reached 21:00:23 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:51 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1462-g7ddb43b: Don't try to paralyse paralysed players (8691) 10(8 minutes ago, 2 files, 16+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7ddb43b57b49 21:01:04 dang, chei taking its time 21:02:42 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1463-gdda6122: Don't let warlock's mirror reflect Glaciate 10(86 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dda61229e950 21:03:03 imo they should, but apparently i'm too late 21:03:53 esp for stuff like great orb of eyes, who don't "cast" paralyse but just sortal look lazily at you, which happens to induce paralysis 21:04:04 amalloy: not very lazy, given it takes 10 aut 21:04:07 or hm 21:04:13 maybe that's just even lazier? 21:04:36 (but it is an active decision on their part, not a passive thing) 21:04:57 i'm aware that's how it's implemented, but i choose to believe that in-universe it's just passive 21:05:16 amalloy: i'm pure neutral on this, so if you want to revert it and leave a comment on the ticket, the only one you'll have to convince is our ontoclasm. 21:05:25 i think there may have been a ticket about reflecting glaciate 21:06:06 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1463-gdda6122: Don't let warlock's mirror reflect Glaciate 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dda61229e950 21:06:21 !learn add amalloy_todo destroy ontoclasm and all ontoclasm holds dear 21:06:21 amalloy todo[6/6]: destroy ontoclasm and all ontoclasm holds dear 21:06:24 wheals: yes 21:06:30 that's what I was looking at 21:06:39 I'm about to close it as 'unable to reproduce' 21:06:46 esp given it hasn't shown up again in the last 2 years 21:07:24 !lg * max=sh x=sh 21:07:29 5310085. [sh=364] Happylisk the Invulnerable (L27 GrNe of Kikubaaqudgha), escaped with the Orb and 6 runes on 2015-03-22 15:39:03, with 3984380 points after 78272 turns and 4:58:25. 21:07:37 try stacking a lot of corpse armour 21:07:46 I just modified player.cc to multiply my sh by 100 21:07:54 and tested with 1750 sh 21:07:55 works 21:07:57 hah 21:08:13 amalloy: tyr it bro i'll just press &H 21:09:09 over in ##crawl it was just pointed out that this is potentially a monster buff, especially for early paralysers 21:09:24 true 21:09:37 I was aware 21:10:14 -!- Bcadren has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:11:56 wheals: did you have a paralysis opinion? 21:12:04 21:12:14 a good opinion 21:12:17 I agree with wheals 21:12:23 i guess it's a buff because they use fewer charges? 21:12:39 -!- oxeimon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:12:48 or just because they spend fewer turns being useless 21:12:53 latter 21:13:02 would be most notable on grinder, probably 21:23:03 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:26:28 yep 21:27:58 * geekosaur not expressing an opinion, just noting. 21:28:18 I'll probably have an opinion next time I run into Grinder >.> 21:28:18 almost no one here wants to have an opinion. 21:28:23 what's the world coming to? 21:28:47 opinions are for tavern? :p 21:28:51 !learn add ancestor_crawl_messages The phantom hits PleasingFungus in the face! Your ancestor laughs. 21:28:51 ancestor crawl messages[1/1]: The phantom hits PleasingFungus in the face! Your ancestor laughs. 21:29:04 heh 21:29:52 -!- _sk has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:29:55 -!- tw_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:30:07 in that case, I shall have an opinion for you. 21:30:18 Lasty: laughing...!? 21:30:53 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1464-gf5ca842: Revert "Don't try to paralyse paralysed players" 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 1+ 16-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f5ca842e41f6 21:30:54 -!- oxeimon has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:31:05 !learn add ancestor_crawl_messages The giant frog zombie hits that! Your ancestor gives it a high five. x2 21:31:05 ancestor crawl messages[2/2]: The giant frog zombie hits that! Your ancestor gives it a high five. x2 21:31:16 these are messages I can currently make crawl generate 21:31:20 as a player 21:32:11 just the first line, though, right? 21:32:16 nope, the whole thing 21:32:20 ahaha 21:33:03 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:33:21 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1464-gf5ca842: Revert "Don't try to paralyse paralysed players" 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 1+ 16-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f5ca842e41f6 21:33:25 okay, time to destroy fun 21:33:27 or at least reduce it 21:33:31 god, what is with chei tonight? 21:34:57 !learn add ancestor_crawl_messages The giant frog zombie hits your mom. You have escaped. 21:34:57 ancestor crawl messages[3/3]: The giant frog zombie hits your mom. You have escaped. 21:35:00 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:35:11 Oh, I can do way better than that 21:35:11 so many frogs 21:35:36 -!- oxeimon1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:36:37 !learn set ancestor_crawl_messages[3 The iron imp hits your mom. You pick up the Orb! You have escaped. 21:36:37 ancestor crawl messages[3/3]: The iron imp hits your mom. You pick up the Orb! You have escaped. 21:36:38 !blame2 amalloy 21:36:38 aaammmaaalllllloooyyy 21:36:48 did you even test _deathswap_message() at all 21:36:52 actually I'm just assuming that was you 21:37:02 yeah it was 21:38:06 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1520-g9f8ce7f: Reduce brutal naming abuse (Lasty) 10(34 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9f8ce7f638af 21:38:27 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1521-g8720118: Fix _deathswap_message() 10(11 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/87201188791e 21:39:38 oh dear 21:39:44 <|amethyst> hm... 18 might be a little short 21:40:12 I was initially thinking 27, but that seemed very long in play 21:40:17 idk 21:40:23 I wonder if there are any default names longer than 18 characters. 21:40:23 <|amethyst> the problem is that the number is bytes 21:40:35 so you're concerned about unicode? 21:40:39 <|amethyst> think of the Koreans! 21:40:51 is there a number you'd prefer? 21:40:57 <|amethyst> hmm 21:41:04 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1520-g9f8ce7f: Reduce brutal naming abuse (Lasty) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9f8ce7f638af 21:41:04 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1521-g8720118: Fix _deathswap_message() 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/87201188791e 21:41:08 <|amethyst> I guess we don't have a way to limit it by width 21:41:16 seems hard to get a number that's right for the anglosphere and rotw without that 21:41:19 the latinsphere? 21:41:23 <|amethyst> because 18 cells wide is perfectly fine I think 21:42:14 clearly rewrite in perl 6 :p 21:42:26 !learn add ancestor_crawl_messages The orc skeleton hits it. You die... 21:42:27 ancestor crawl messages[4/4]: The orc skeleton hits it. You die... 21:42:29 Python 3 21:42:34 <18 chars! 21:42:36 Lasty: and that's - yes! 21:42:42 imo encouraging tiny funny names is good 21:42:47 you've gotta have restrictions for creativity! 21:43:02 no sillier than fakelangs 21:44:01 !send wheals a slime mold to wheals. We should all say "You're awesome" 21:44:01 Sending a slime mold to wheals. We should all say "You're awesome" to wheals. 21:44:10 why thank you Sequell 21:44:12 You're awesome, wheals! 21:44:18 -!- BuggyFungus is now known as AnotherFungus 21:44:18 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:44:22 You're awesome, wheals! 21:44:29 !learn add ancestor_crawl_messages You reach XL 1! Bo hits the orc skeleton! 21:44:30 ancestor crawl messages[5/5]: You reach XL 1! Bo hits the orc skeleton! 21:44:52 haha 21:45:12 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 21:46:53 This is the best feature <3 21:48:00 hm, and certain people said I should remove it 21:48:06 coincidence...? 21:48:12 probably not 21:49:50 -!- AnotherFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0.2/20160210153822]] 21:50:15 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 21:52:44 Experimental (combo_god) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1521-g8720118 21:53:03 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:55:36 next player's turn 21:55:54 -!- feksclaus has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 21:56:06 oops, wrong window 21:58:10 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest55033 22:00:24 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:02:57 -!- Guest55033 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:09:51 -!- Shinino has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:19:09 is it possible to write a !lg query that can look at the change in the average game duration over time? 22:19:15 eg average game duration for each version 22:19:21 or for each month 22:22:35 -!- Reawakening_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:22:49 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 22:27:35 !lg * s=cv x=avg(dur) -graph 22:27:45 5310373 games for *: https://shalott.org/graphs/6cf1475d970e7502ff661987a6e3cf98d0a95784.html 22:28:05 lollll 22:28:10 !lg * !boring s=cv x=avg(dur) -graph 22:28:21 4509856 games for * (!boring): https://shalott.org/graphs/5fd6e746c46dc3cd0bd99f13a1762198afd2d403.html 22:28:53 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:28:54 good 22:29:05 !lg * !boring s=cv x=avg(dur) 22:29:16 4509858 games for * (!boring): 442436x 0.17-a [0:29:42], 323471x 0.14-a [0:30:52], 286348x 0.16-a [0:34:44], 258735x 0.16 [0:32:07], 232682x 0.15-a [0:32:17], 231551x 0.13-a [0:31:25], 223920x 0.17 [0:28:26], 214973x 0.10 [0:40:11], 204300x 0.18-a [0:26:03], 203086x 0.15 [0:33:30], 186660x 0.11 [0:34:34], 176137x 0.12-a [0:33:18], 163232x 0.9 [0:38:42], 155429x 0.7 [0:27:26], 141542x 0.5 [0:31:44]... 22:29:33 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:29:37 i guess this doesn't graph very well 22:29:45 !lg * !boring s=cv x=avg(dur) o=-cv 22:29:52 !lg . x=dur -graph 22:29:55 4509860 games for * (!boring): 16292x 0.1 [0:41:01], 34917x 0.2 [0:45:53], 54037x 0.3 [0:47:03], 108261x 0.4 [0:43:59], 141542x 0.5 [0:31:44], 28945x 0.6-a [0:32:50], 77667x 0.6 [0:27:08], 23060x 0.7-a [0:27:20], 155429x 0.7 [0:27:26], 65186x 0.8-a [0:31:35], 128282x 0.8 [0:34:43], 41489x 0.9-a [0:34:53], 163232x 0.9 [0:38:42], 63129x 0.10-a [0:31:46], 214973x 0.10 [0:40:11], 79926x 0.11-a [0:37:1... 22:29:56 1556. [dur=0:00:37] chequers the Chopper (L4 MiGl), slain by an ogre (a +0 giant club) on D:4 on 2016-02-26 01:45:57, with 86 points after 605 turns and 0:00:37. 22:30:05 ah, you can only graph s= 22:30:12 i guess i'll graph it by hand 22:30:17 !kw boring 22:30:17 Keyword: boring => quitting|leaving|wizmode 22:30:25 !lg * !boring s=cv x=avg(dur) o=-. 22:30:36 4509861 games for * (!boring): 16292x 0.1 [0:41:01], 34917x 0.2 [0:45:53], 54037x 0.3 [0:47:03], 108261x 0.4 [0:43:59], 141542x 0.5 [0:31:44], 28945x 0.6-a [0:32:50], 77667x 0.6 [0:27:08], 23060x 0.7-a [0:27:20], 155429x 0.7 [0:27:26], 65186x 0.8-a [0:31:35], 128282x 0.8 [0:34:43], 41489x 0.9-a [0:34:53], 163232x 0.9 [0:38:42], 63129x 0.10-a [0:31:46], 214973x 0.10 [0:40:11], 79926x 0.11-a [0:37:1... 22:30:37 !lg * !boring s=cv x=avg(dur)*60 o=-cv 22:30:41 !lg * !boring s=cv x=avg(dur)*60 -graph 22:30:47 No keyword '*60' 22:30:47 No keyword '*60' 22:31:00 x={avg(dur)*60} perhaps 22:31:03 !lg * !boring s=cv x=${avg(dur)*60} -graph 22:31:13 4509861 games for * (!boring): https://shalott.org/graphs/6b64e91e9e73eb0bc66df794f7bdd4e595b4eab9.html 22:31:21 !gamesby * 22:31:25 welp 22:31:31 * has played 5310380 games, between 2006-12-02 21:22:12 and 2016-03-01 03:30:43, won 39320 (0.7%), high score 75023051, total score 238818592557, total turns 29306070208, play-time/day 31d+4:48:13, total time 288y+274d+3:12:32. 22:31:32 !lg . x=dur 22:31:33 3531. [dur=0:00:03] wheals the Chucker (L1 HOHu), entered wizard mode on D:1 (dpeg_arrival_round_a) on 2015-12-31 12:55:33, with 0 points after 0 turns and 0:00:03. 22:31:42 !lg . !boring x=dur 22:31:43 3125. [dur=0:17:54] wheals the Fighter (L9 OpMo of Pakellas), slain by a wolf (led by Grum) on D:8 on 2015-12-21 19:36:13, with 2951 points after 9506 turns and 0:17:54. 22:31:51 !lg . !boring x=${dur*60} 22:31:52 3125. [dur*60=17:54:00] wheals the Fighter (L9 OpMo of Pakellas), slain by a wolf (led by Grum) on D:8 on 2015-12-21 19:36:13, with 2951 points after 9506 turns and 0:17:54. 22:31:57 fun fact: dcss has 40% the playtime of TOME 22:32:09 wheals: i'm doing it by hand wiht the query data 22:34:20 does TOME include time spent idle? i know a lot of steam games do 22:34:55 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:35:56 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yFkwcsH_PC14MqGyRNr3skCpvb_N4N-l0SmByu_lQWY/edit?usp=sharing 22:36:05 wheals: i'm using this time, not sure http://te4.org/game-statistics 22:36:37 it might also be interesting to look at average winning duration 22:36:48 good idea 22:37:10 and that graph looks wrong 22:37:15 at least the scale on the left 22:40:18 -!- MBlaureNs has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:44:25 tome doesn't have idle turn timeout sadly 22:44:36 so it's not super fair comparison, what I was saying before 22:47:07 I updated that sheet with win duration and 3-rune win 22:47:38 average duration has remained almost unchanged, average win duration has reduced slightly, average 3-rune win duration has steadily dropped 22:48:41 yeah i dunno what is up with those axes 22:48:44 google sheets is weird 22:49:04 -!- squimmy_ is now known as squimmy 22:55:04 -!- Jarlyk2 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:55:58 -!- Turgor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:56:25 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:56:56 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 22:57:38 Ponce (L23 DsGl) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 194 failed. (Depths:3) 22:57:47 Lasty_: cruel challenge 22:59:49 -!- eb has quit [] 23:00:24 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:40 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:04:09 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 23:08:02 Lasty_: it looks like you can do enough damage with apoc to theoretically defeat any enemy in the game, eventually 23:09:40 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:11:12 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 23:20:57 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:25:41 -!- dude679 has quit [Client Quit] 23:25:58 -!- AnotherFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:26:11 !crashlog Ponce 23:26:11 -!- dude679 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:26:12 2. Ponce, XL23 DsGl, T:67422 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Ponce/crash-Ponce-20160301-035737.txt 23:26:25 oh, neat 23:26:27 crusher crash 23:26:35 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 23:28:17 <|amethyst> AnotherFungus: found you a plugin: https://github.com/savala/git-feeling 23:28:53 awesome 23:29:12 -w or --win - adds a :beer: 23:29:13 lmao 23:29:15 -!- Shados_ is now known as Shados 23:29:18 -!- Alcopop has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:29:23 !beer AnotherFungus 23:29:23 * Sequell slides a pitcher of lager down the bar to AnotherFungus, courtesy of wheals. 23:30:36 <|amethyst> !recur !beer 99 23:31:06 !always $(!beer |amethyst) 23:31:06 A/SAPOSDTBTACOW! A-Always! /-/me! S-Slides! A-A! P-Pitcher! O-Of! S-Schwarzbier! D-Down! T-The! B-Bar! T-To! A-Amethyst! -! C-Courtesy! O-Of! W-Wheals.! Always /me Slides A Pitcher Of Schwarzbier Down The Bar To Amethyst Courtesy Of Wheals.! ALWAYS /ME SLIDES A PITCHER OF SCHWARZBIER DOWN THE BAR TO AMETHYST COURTESY OF WHEALS.! 23:31:09 <|amethyst> !recur !beer 5 23:31:12 -!- wheals has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:31:13 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:31:35 I think bolt of cold's damage formula might have gotten messed up in trunk. I've been playing around in wizard mode and I'm getting more and more suspicious. Would it be best to file a bug report on Mantis or talk it over briefly here? 23:31:50 <|amethyst> player bolt of cold? 23:31:54 Yes 23:31:56 * Sequell slides a mug of cask ale down the bar to /me slides a stein of Schwarzbier down the bar to /me slides a bottle of Schwarzbier down the bar to /me slides a pitcher of stout down the bar to /me slides a pitcher of ginger beer down the bar to |amethyst., courtesy of |amethyst., courtesy of |amethyst., courtesy of |amethyst., courtesy of |amethyst. 23:32:18 dude679: possible. can you be more specific? 23:32:30 <|amethyst> oh, err 23:32:33 <|amethyst> yeah, it changed a lot 23:32:41 <|amethyst> new calcdice_calculator<3, 8, 1, 11>, 23:32:41 <|amethyst> new tohit_calculator<17, 1, 25>, 23:32:47 player with 30 int and 27 in all skills takes way too long to kill a fire dragon. 23:32:52 <|amethyst> bolt of fire OTOH is 23:32:56 <|amethyst> new calcdice_calculator<6, 18, 2, 3>, 23:32:56 <|amethyst> new tohit_calculator<10, 1, 25>, 23:32:59 hm 23:33:07 <|amethyst> oh 23:33:07 it just feels way off to me 23:33:09 %git 6b2096abfcc3a54db305ddfcade5a029cf5667f2 23:33:09 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-1373-g6b2096a: Move most monster conjurations into zap-data 10(9 days ago, 11 files, 240+ 267-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6b2096abfcc3 23:33:12 <|amethyst> it got the monster numbers in both places 23:33:19 hrm 23:33:23 but maybe I'm crazy 23:33:34 dude679: we are in the middle of concluding that you are not crazy 23:33:37 please hold 23:33:49 |amethyst: looks like a copy-paste error 23:33:54 I'm scrolling to see if I did it anywhere else 23:33:58 <|amethyst> dude679: on the other hand, it's more accurate than it's supposed to be! 23:34:32 <|amethyst> AnotherFungus: I don't see any other - lines there 23:34:41 yeah 23:34:48 <|amethyst> AnotherFungus: other than removing the // was splinters comment 23:34:50 other than the lehudbi's name one 23:34:52 this is the nerf IE needed 23:34:52 adding* 23:35:02 moving from mon-cast* 23:35:09 <|amethyst> ZAP_TEENAGE_MUTANT_NINJA_TURTLE, // was Splinter's 23:35:28 <|amethyst> oh 23:35:28 I was playing a deep elf earlier and was having way too hard a time killing an emperor scorpion. Super confused about it. 23:35:33 <|amethyst> yeah, adding 23:35:36 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:35:44 pushing a fix now 23:35:52 |amethyst: adding? 23:35:54 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1465-g600d0f4: Fix Bolt of Cold damage/acc (dude679) 10(38 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/600d0f4a5ca6 23:35:54 oh 23:36:02 <|amethyst> dude679: now you see what a hard time those poor monsters with BoC have always had! :) 23:36:04 I'm kind of curious about that, tbh 23:36:15 presumably an old name for the spell? 23:36:19 must have been very old 23:36:23 <|amethyst> that would be my guess 23:36:44 grepping now 23:37:02 <|amethyst> it was there in initial revision 23:37:05 <|amethyst> the comment 23:37:22 sounds right 23:37:24 <|amethyst> except it was MS_CRYSTAL_SPEAR because monster spells had a separate enum 23:37:28 not gonna do the archaeology for linley's 23:37:30 haha 23:37:55 dude679: should be fixed whenever your server rebuilds next (probably later tonight?) 23:37:57 ty for the report! 23:38:14 awesome, glad I could help! 23:38:36 :) 23:39:35 hm 23:40:13 <|amethyst> AnotherFungus: looks like it changed sometime between 1.1 and 2.70 23:40:23 wow 23:40:23 -!- dude679 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:40:24 truly ancient.. 23:40:26 !seen wheals 23:40:27 I last saw wheals at Tue Mar 1 04:31:12 2016 UTC (9m 14s ago) quitting, saying 'Remote host closed the connection'. 23:40:29 feh! 23:40:55 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1465-g600d0f4: Fix Bolt of Cold damage/acc (dude679) 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/600d0f4a5ca6 23:40:59 <|amethyst> - case 18: // splinters 23:40:59 <|amethyst> - strcpy(str_pass, "spray of metal splinters"); 23:41:02 <|amethyst> + case 18: // was splinters 23:41:02 <|amethyst> + strcpy(str_pass, "crystal spear"); 23:41:48 <|amethyst> AnotherFungus: also, this code is just generally great, but you already knew that 23:41:54 <|amethyst> + case 18: // was splinters 23:41:54 <|amethyst> + strcpy(str_pass, "crystal spear"); 23:41:54 <|amethyst> + func_pass [1] = random2(10) + 8; 23:41:54 <|amethyst> + func_pass [2] = 112 + func_pass [8] / 10; 23:41:54 <|amethyst> + func_pass [0] = WHITE; 23:41:56 <|amethyst> + func_pass [4] = ')'; 23:41:59 <|amethyst> + func_pass [6] = 2; 23:42:01 <|amethyst> + func_pass [5] = 1; 23:42:04 <|amethyst> + func_pass [7] = 1; 23:43:08 wat 23:43:42 <|amethyst> chequers: welcome to the "didn't get to structs yet in the Turbo C++ manual" version of zap-data.h 23:44:01 <|amethyst> (this was it_use2.cc) 23:44:13 <|amethyst> in 2.70 23:44:23 <|amethyst> so like 99 or so? 23:44:27 I love linleycode so much 23:44:39 hm 23:44:46 is there a specific reason for AI_STAT_CHANGE to exist? 23:44:53 stopping delays when a stat drops 23:45:10 as distinct from getting a message or statzeroing or w/e 23:45:30 I don't suppose you can make bolt of cold the same range as bolt of fire while you're at it? 23:47:02 <|amethyst> if we removed Ice Form and the spriggan race... 23:48:00 <|amethyst> then when I tell the story of my Spriggan Stalker who had to cast Ice Form to become large and strong enough to pick up and move corpses for Twisted Resurrection 23:48:06 <|amethyst> no one will know what the hell I am talking about 23:48:19 like 99% of the stuff required for that story is already gone :) 23:48:54 <|amethyst> yeah, but right now they might guess I'm talking about crawl :) 23:50:36 |amethyst: Also, apparently you're the one to ask about this: can something be done about the missing highscore by Charly? It's been half a year now :o 23:50:55 a missing score on CSZO, right? 23:51:01 !hs charly x=src 23:51:01 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:51:02 2880. [src=cxc] Charly the Impregnable (L27 DDFi of Makhleb), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-10-25 05:59:30, with 70981243 points after 20170 turns and 12:22:01. 23:51:36 oh, that would be Medar 23:52:25 wow, this code has been dead for just short of a decade now 23:53:20 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 23:53:48 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1466-g2490093: Remove some decade-old dead code 10(71 seconds ago, 3 files, 1+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2490093ca245 23:56:18 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1466-g2490093: Remove some decade-old dead code 10(4 minutes ago, 3 files, 1+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2490093ca245 23:57:07 oh, hm 23:58:40 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest9417 23:58:58 this is causing warnings from initfile.cc 23:59:03 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:59:13 Other F 23:59:56 got it