00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:02:34 oh hi 00:02:41 missed your ping because I was scrolled up :| 00:03:08 PleasingFungus: when I was writing this, strength was (and should still be) the number of tiles that this could pull you 00:03:26 falling off quadratically, like a good gravitational force should :) 00:03:45 and capped at LOS because affecting things beyond LOS range is bad 00:03:52 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 00:04:03 -!- thromnambular has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:06:18 yeah, and now it's also damage 00:06:25 which makes it a little weird 00:07:56 <|amethyst> hmm 00:08:34 <|amethyst> what does calculus actually say 00:09:39 speaking of ancestors 00:10:11 <|amethyst> x''(t) = C/(r0 - x(t))^2 00:13:15 right now various people have noted that the battlemage's utility is limited by the fact that it hugs you and can't shoot through you - insofar as that's true and bad, I was thinking of mitigating it by letting the battlemage shoot through the player and/or vice versa 00:13:57 former would encourage facetanking for your ancestor, latter would encourage letting your ancestor tank - not sure which is preferable 00:15:13 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:15:53 maybe do both? 00:24:43 could 00:24:53 i'll sleep on it, I guess. 00:26:19 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0.2/20160210153822]] 00:29:31 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:32:55 -!- debo is now known as ncrawl 00:33:08 -!- ncrawl is now known as i 00:33:37 -!- i is now known as Guest69236 00:33:42 -!- Guest69236 is now known as debo 00:34:08 -!- debo is now known as aevengelist 00:34:13 -!- aevengelist is now known as debo 00:36:11 -!- debo is now known as also 00:36:19 -!- also is now known as debo 00:37:41 -!- debo is now known as violetmold 00:37:55 -!- violetmold is now known as debo 00:42:46 -!- nomicflux has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:45:33 -!- DaneiTHREE is now known as DaneiTWO 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:02:06 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:03:22 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1361-g9293dd1 (34) 01:03:31 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 01:12:03 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:15:38 -!- neongrey has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:15:53 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 01:18:13 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1361-g9293dd1 (34) 01:22:25 -!- sorlin has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:23:23 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:24:50 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 01:28:57 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 01:40:44 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:43:58 -!- DaneiTWO is now known as DaneiZERO 01:50:52 -!- DaneiZERO has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:51:04 -!- johlstei_ is now known as johlstei 01:54:18 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1361-g9293dd1 01:57:58 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:04:59 -!- sorlin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:06:44 -!- DaneiSIX has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:21:12 -!- sorlin has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:25:58 -!- neongrey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:31:30 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:31:58 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 02:41:14 -!- fallenxxxsky has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:41:44 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 02:45:04 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:45:29 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 02:45:35 -!- koboldina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:50:17 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 02:50:40 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1361-g9293dd1 02:55:39 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:59:01 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:59:36 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:03:00 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:03:17 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:06:50 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:08:22 -!- DaneiZERO has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:11:35 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:11:40 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1361-g9293dd1 (34) 03:22:51 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:28:39 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 03:30:51 -!- Hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:35:12 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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10:00:38 yes, always 10:02:45 I do wonder how they imagine it should be instead 10:03:11 just keep adding stuff… until when? 10:03:20 until the world ends 10:04:00 imagine if people made sculptures that way… 10:04:06 :) 10:05:03 * geekosaur recalls the wall mural in _The Drawing of the Dark_ 10:18:08 -!- Guest35604 is now known as debo 10:18:08 -!- neongrey has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:35:02 -!- FIQ has quit [Excess Flood] 10:37:10 -!- FIQ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:56:26 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:57:29 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:58:36 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 10:59:53 -!- graymark has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01:02 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 11:01:25 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 11:32:35 -!- West1C has quit [] 11:34:11 -!- neongrey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:41:12 -!- Stendarr has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 11:45:47 -!- djanatyn has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 11:46:07 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:49:13 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:04 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:00:23 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:33 -!- CcS has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:00:44 PleasingFungus, does spriggan knights use large shields? :p 12:00:46 dpeg: unusual to see a passel of players show up to defend the devs 12:00:47 SLASH AND BURN 12:01:00 FIQ: spriggans' ancestors were much larger than the modern breed. 12:01:06 or the combination of a broad axe (2h I think for them) and a shield 12:01:18 PleasingFungus: people are defending us? Finally I can let down my guard for a split second! 12:01:24 Lasty: noo 12:01:27 Oh god, I've been stabbed! 12:01:39 ah ok 12:04:10 and trolls were smaller? :) 12:04:14 (the ancestor can wear gloves!) 12:04:57 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1361-g9293dd1 (34) 12:04:59 sure. 12:05:06 memory is malleable, you know? 12:05:16 this is the first and final lesson of hep. 12:05:20 heh 12:09:25 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:10:33 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:11:03 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:11:10 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:17:19 @?? yak 12:17:20 yak (07Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 33-44 | AC/EV: 4/7 | Dam: 18 | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 204 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 12:17:28 -!- Leszczynek has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 12:23:33 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:29:18 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:31:11 idea: what if transference (swap with ancestor, trigger death effect @ prev location) was replaced with "teleport ancestor to target location, trigger death effect there" 12:31:47 there's a tendency right now for the ancestor and the player to end up adjacent (fighting the same enemies), which makes transference rarely useful 12:37:57 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:38:10 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 12:41:32 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 12:42:02 it has to do with how ancestors decide on targets 12:42:16 I think if you tell them to attack someone 12:42:24 and then decide to attack something else 12:42:38 then you can make you+ancestor fight different monsters 12:42:39 I think 12:44:36 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: what about "swap ancestor with target monster"? 12:44:52 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: (smite-targetted) 12:45:01 oh, I like that 12:45:12 I like that a lot 12:46:26 and target monster can include yourself? 12:46:34 <|amethyst> I was thinking no 12:46:42 because that basically allows pseudoblink 12:46:48 not sure if it would be too op 12:46:50 isn't that what it is now? 12:47:03 it is what it is if you try hard enough 12:47:07 but it gets super awkward lol 12:47:09 uh 12:47:15 I don't see how this would make it less awkward 12:47:35 well it gives more freedom in placement 12:48:01 <|amethyst> but the only one that lets you blink 12:48:11 and allows controlled monster swaps 12:48:14 a la chess piece 12:48:18 (minus confusion) 12:48:35 we'll probably have to prevent instadrowning/insta-lava-ing enemies with this 12:48:37 as a related note 12:48:43 <|amethyst> yes 12:48:57 <|amethyst> also, chainability? 12:49:14 since you can chain it to swap whatever 12:49:17 <|amethyst> I forget how much piety it costs, since I don't think I used it 12:49:31 |amethyst, yeah 12:49:38 <|amethyst> !hs . god=hepliaklqana 12:49:39 2. neil the Grappler (L15 TrMo of Hepliaklqana), slain by a greater naga (a +2 halberd of freezing) on Snake:3 on 2016-02-19 02:47:50, with 101479 points after 24792 turns and 1:26:20. 12:49:44 <|amethyst> !hs . god=hepliaklqana -log 12:49:45 2. neil, XL15 TrMo, T:24792: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/neil/morgue-neil-20160219-024750.txt 12:50:02 <|amethyst> yep, never used it 12:50:28 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I'm not sure if you mentioned this, but FR: ancestor deaths show up in action counts 12:50:54 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I know you mentioned wanted some more stuff in Notes 12:51:01 <|amethyst> s/wanted/you &/ 12:54:21 -!- neongrey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:55:46 oh, that's a good thought 12:55:55 I think I added the notes that I'd wanted 12:56:03 it's finesse piety rn 12:56:17 but I can see tuning it downward, idk 12:56:26 it feels like it should be somewhere around shadow step 12:59:05 -!- medice has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:03 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:02:00 shadow step is more than finesse 13:02:00 MarvinPA: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 13:02:37 or was the same until recently, 4 vs 3 13:04:06 hm 13:04:24 -!- } has quit [] 13:04:25 -!- mineral has joined ##crawl-dev 13:04:29 I need to revise H ability costs at some point, the removal of the manual revive ability means everything's out of whack 13:05:37 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1443-g2f3b863: Add an H overflow vault 10(62 seconds ago, 1 file, 88+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2f3b863f21da 13:10:08 -!- cang has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:10:48 %git b67a2994 13:10:48 07Lasty02 * 0.18-a0-1075-gb67a299: Ignore Ukayaw power gain/loss messages while autotraveling (dpeg) 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b67a2994f501 13:10:57 ahh 13:12:19 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1444-g83ea057: Interrupt autoexplore on ancestor respawn (neil) 10(17 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/83ea0570b52f 13:13:49 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:14:33 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:15:26 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 13:17:30 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:20:06 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1445-g6e6692a: Romanticize -> Romanticise (chequers) 10(15 seconds ago, 11 files, 14+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6e6692a74328 13:20:29 hm 13:20:35 is anything going on with https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/165 ? I forget 13:20:46 <|amethyst> oh, yes 13:20:50 <|amethyst> err 13:21:11 <|amethyst> yes, there are still problems with it 13:21:36 <|amethyst> it still changes how existing messages are stored 13:22:01 <|amethyst> and it does a weird thing about storing the auxtype + 1 instead of the auxtype 13:22:09 hm 13:22:12 ok 13:22:27 <|amethyst> If you got rid of the auxtype + 1 thing I think that would solve most of the problems 13:22:59 -!- Kalma has quit [Quit: *_*] 13:23:10 instead of doing that, i'm going to cause a merge conflict 13:23:18 by doing the ally death action count thing 13:23:32 <|amethyst> no worries 13:23:55 <|amethyst> I should really go in and fix up 165 because it is a good idea 13:27:15 -!- Chousuke has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:27:56 -!- Chousuke has joined ##crawl-dev 13:32:39 hm 13:32:48 do action counts not show up in mid-game chardumps? 13:33:42 never mind, here we go 13:34:31 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0.2/20160210153822]] 13:46:34 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:48:40 killdudes (L27 HOFi) ASSERT(!newpos.origin()) in 'spl-goditem.cc' at line 850 failed. (Pan) 13:50:24 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:52:06 -!- KuKumber has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:53:18 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 13:56:26 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01:37 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:03:06 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 14:10:54 -!- ArbitraryName has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:12:14 -!- neongrey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:20:25 -!- oxeimon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:21:48 -!- simples has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:22:11 <|amethyst> Lasty: pretty sure this won't cause conflicts with the skill_gains thing 14:28:47 -!- gressup has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:29:15 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:29:22 112717 | Zot:2 | HP: 34/189 [??? (26)] 14:29:37 any reason why curse toe torment shows as ???? in the notes? 14:29:39 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 14:34:42 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:35:01 !crashlog killdudes 14:35:06 130. minmay, XL3 OpBe, T:1421 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/minmay/crash-minmay-20131228-190043.txt 14:35:17 ??? 14:35:26 !crash killdudes hofi 14:35:27 No milestones for killdudes (hofi crash). 14:37:38 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:37:48 |amethyst: http://sprunge.us/FUFN suggestions for a better name than "pal--" welcome 14:39:12 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: hm, I had been thinking that it would be a fake invocation 14:39:22 buddy! 14:39:40 ProzacElf: this is a count of dead pals 14:39:41 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: which would give you enough space to write "Ally death" as the "name" of the invo 14:39:47 ah 14:39:48 a fake invocation... 14:39:54 pals are like buddies 14:40:33 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: oh, these are all permallies 14:40:36 does this just count for the ally gods? 14:40:54 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: hm 14:41:10 and if so, are we including your zombies/skeletons for yred? 14:41:12 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: five chars, huh 14:41:29 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:41:55 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: hm, now I wonder 14:41:55 ProzacElf: this implementation will count mercenaries and... maybe yred raised undead? I guess they don't have ENCH_FAKE_ABJURATION? 14:42:05 hm 14:42:09 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: do you also need the && !in_transit that shows up a couple lines up 14:42:15 why are you limited to 5 chars? 14:42:17 <|amethyst> and beogh followers 14:42:32 I was counting banished pals as dead 14:42:49 <|amethyst> ProzacElf: because it's the section header, and making it bigger would make action counts even wider than it already is 14:43:00 i was assuming beogh followers would count if yred servants did 14:43:10 yes 14:43:25 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: hm, what about shafts? 14:43:32 ack, tbhbt 14:43:43 shafts 14:43:45 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 14:43:49 oh, for the action count section in the dump/morgue? 14:43:52 I think those just use mons_cleanup()? 14:43:54 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: yeah 14:43:58 rather than killing monsters properly? 14:44:00 idk 14:44:12 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:44:46 <|amethyst> ah, you're right 14:44:52 <|amethyst> in_transit is only banishment 14:44:59 <|amethyst> there 14:48:07 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:51:16 Experimental (combo_god) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1445-g6e6692a 14:51:54 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-1362-g62908bb: Allow browsing char dump in-game with ?# 10(37 minutes ago, 5 files, 68+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/62908bb8028b 14:52:13 oh, that sounds useful 14:53:02 <|amethyst> would be nice to highlight and add hotkeys for sections 14:53:12 yesss 14:53:15 <|amethyst> but that would take a significant refactor I think 14:53:26 hey 14:53:33 !vault palyth_temple_overflow_mages 14:53:33 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/altar/overflow.des#l3248 14:53:39 is spawn_mage always true? 14:53:52 (lua question) 14:54:04 <|amethyst> local spawn_mage = crawl.random2(5) 14:54:27 you said that 0 is truthy, right? 14:54:31 <|amethyst> ohhh 14:54:40 <|amethyst> hah 14:54:47 I don't really understand how this was supposed to work in the first place 14:54:53 4/5 chance of mage? 14:55:23 <|amethyst> that seems to be the intent 14:55:30 %git 59644b31cc221161c601e8051283d891974f22b1 14:55:31 07Mark Donahue02 {Grunt} * 0.17-a0-2188-g59644b3: New overflow Veh/Sif/Kiku altar vault (#10015). 10(4 months ago, 1 file, 50+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/59644b31cc22 14:55:37 <|amethyst> btw, if you touch this 14:55:39 !blame2 Grunt 14:55:39 GGGrrruuunnnttt 14:56:08 <|amethyst> please adjust the spaces between ":" and "if" etc so the nesting makes sense 14:56:34 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:56:49 there's no real reason for it to be using lua in the first place 14:56:50 <|amethyst> as for fixing it, fortunately we also have crawl.one_chance_in() 14:57:05 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I think the idea 14:57:13 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: is that the mage should match the middle altar 14:57:17 yes 14:57:20 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: but yeah, I think you could do that with subst 14:57:23 yes 14:57:31 sadly I don't know des 14:57:57 I think I'm just gonna cut it for now 14:58:20 -!- Goon_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:58:26 or maybe cut the mage half 14:59:58 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:40 @??deep elf mage 15:00:40 deep elf mage (06e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 9 | HP: 35-47 | AC/EV: 1/12 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(40) | XP: 570 | Sp: b.cold (3d17), throw icicle (3d17), sum.ice beast, blink / b.draining (3d17), sum.demon, sum.vermin, blink / b.fire (3d17), sticky flame range (3d5), sum.fire elementals, blink / b.lightning (3d16), blink / b.magma (3d17), stone arrow (3d15), sum.earth elemen.. 15:00:44 @??tengu conjurer 15:00:44 tengu conjurer (02Q) | Spd: 10 (move: 90%) | HD: 7 | HP: 26-36 | AC/EV: 2/17 | Dam: 10, 5, 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 323 | Sp: force lance (3d11), mystic blast (3d13), battlesphere, blink [04emergency] / mephitic cloud, b.venom (3d12), battlesphere, blink [04emergency] / shock (d12), b.lightning (3d14), battlesphere, blink [04emergency] /.. 15:01:17 * PleasingFungus shrugs. 15:02:48 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:09:30 haha 15:09:35 |amethyst: another fun fact about this vault 15:09:37 it won't place 15:12:58 <|amethyst> ? 15:14:08 hm 15:14:11 let me check that first 15:14:37 !lg * recent kmap=palyth_temple_overflow_mages 15:14:38 No games for * (recent kmap=palyth_temple_overflow_mages). 15:14:46 TAGS: template_overflow_3 15:15:17 my understanding is that this is very incorrect 15:15:29 <|amethyst> ha 15:16:08 though I'm not totally sure why 15:16:18 <|amethyst> ? 15:19:23 @??naga mage 15:19:23 naga mage (06N) | Spd: 10 (move: 140%) | HD: 7 | HP: 31-45 | AC/EV: 6/10 | Dam: 17, 403(constrict) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(60), 03poison | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 441 | Sp: spit poison (d12) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath], b.venom (3d12), mystic blast (3d13), haste, poison arrow (3d14), teleport other | Sz: Large | Int: human. 15:20:30 <|amethyst> that does explain why I've never seen the vault 15:20:47 and why its deep elf mages haven't been killing people ond :5 15:20:53 *on d:5 15:21:20 @??kobold demonologist 15:21:20 kobold demonologist (06K) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 33-46 | AC/EV: 4/13 | Dam: 4 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, unholy, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(40) | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 371 | Sp: sum.minor demon, sum.demon, cantrip | Sz: small | Int: human. 15:21:29 <|amethyst> @??deep elf mage 15:21:29 deep elf mage (06e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 9 | HP: 35-47 | AC/EV: 1/12 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(40) | XP: 570 | Sp: b.cold (3d17), throw icicle (3d17), sum.ice beast, blink / b.draining (3d17), sum.demon, sum.vermin, blink / b.fire (3d17), sticky flame range (3d5), sum.fire elementals, blink / b.lightning (3d16), blink / b.magma (3d17), stone arrow (3d15), sum.earth elemen.. 15:21:38 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:21:42 <|amethyst> @??deep elf mage hd:4 name:deep_elf_apprentice n_rpl 15:21:42 deep elf apprentice (06e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 4 | HP: 14-21 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(40) | XP: 84 | Sp: b.cold (3d12), throw icicle (3d12), sum.ice beast, blink / b.draining (3d12), sum.demon, sum.vermin, blink / b.fire (3d12), sticky flame range (3d3), sum.fire elementals, blink / b.lightning (3d12), blink / b.magma (3d12), stone arrow (3d9), sum.earth el.. 15:22:55 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 15:23:18 lol 15:24:37 <|amethyst> @??hell rat spells:tukima's_dance.50.wizard name:sorcerer's_apprentice n_rpl 15:24:37 Not a monster spell: 'tukima's dance' 15:24:42 rip 15:25:18 <|amethyst> @??hell rat spells:tukima's_ball.50.wizard name:sorcerer's_apprentice n_rpl 15:25:18 Unknown spell name: 'tukima's ball' in 'tukima's_ball.50.wizard' 15:25:44 <|amethyst> @??hell rat spells:summon_broom.50.wizard name:sorcerer's_apprentice n_rpl 15:25:44 Unknown spell name: 'summon broom' in 'summon_broom.50.wizard' 15:25:58 <|amethyst> an utter failure of vision 15:26:07 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1363-gddfceb1: Clarify Maxwell's Cage's description 10(42 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ddfceb113b04 15:26:11 ya 15:26:11 end crawl dev now 15:26:11 worthless 15:27:07 !lg * recent status~~doom 15:27:09 12. hillorcfi the Slayer (L27 NaEE of Cheibriados), slain by a doom hound on Tar:7 (tar_old) on 2016-02-06 14:21:58, with 1044118 points after 79894 turns and 4:15:36. 15:27:25 !lg * recent status~~doom x=status 15:27:27 12. [status=statue-form,doom howling,regenerating] hillorcfi the Slayer (L27 NaEE of Cheibriados), slain by a doom hound on Tar:7 (tar_old) on 2016-02-06 14:21:58, with 1044118 points after 79894 turns and 4:15:36. 15:28:08 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1364-g520197f: doom howling -> doom-hounded 10(36 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/520197f9a533 15:28:44 <|amethyst> nice 15:29:04 catching up on todos that people pointed out to me over the last few weeks 15:29:11 <|amethyst> plain "hounded" would be nice too, but I kind of like the sound of "doom-hounded" anyway 15:29:21 <|amethyst> FR: change "Howl" to "Hound" 15:30:08 I also wanted to be able to search for status~~doom 15:30:27 surely it'd have to be Howl -> Hounded, anyway 15:30:40 <|amethyst> "Hound" is short for "Hounded" 15:31:00 <|amethyst> no room for grammar in the status lights :) 15:31:06 You Are A Dog 15:31:21 <|amethyst> raijuform 15:31:24 mm 15:31:30 that would be great 15:32:14 <|amethyst> surely a form with innate cblink couldn't be that overpowered 15:32:22 -!- regret-index has joined ##crawl-dev 15:32:27 * regret-index sighs to herself 15:32:29 http://pastebin.com/raw/u9Jqmgix 15:32:32 -!- regret-index has left ##crawl-dev 15:32:42 lol 15:32:53 <|amethyst> hm 15:33:01 <|amethyst> are four extra orc wizards meaningful on D:9 ? 15:33:30 <|amethyst> I guess a one-spell level-3 randbook isn't very meaningful either 15:33:33 * PleasingFungus shrugs 15:34:10 -!- molotove has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:34:11 <|amethyst> Someone needs to make a game out of crawl shuffles/substs 15:34:26 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:34:50 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1365-g5bf1fdf: Recapitalize ?/A ability names 10(29 seconds ago, 1 file, 18+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5bf1fdfac355 15:35:33 -!- regret-index has joined ##crawl-dev 15:35:50 fuck and a half, the kiku randbook and the sif randbook are on opposite altars 15:35:57 fix that before pushing that 15:35:59 -!- regret-index has quit [Client Quit] 15:36:23 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: so C++03 15:36:24 |amethyst: I didn't catch that -- what won't conflict w/ skill_gains? 15:36:36 <|amethyst> %git :/char dump 15:36:36 07|amethyst02 * 0.18-a0-1362-g62908bb: Allow browsing char dump in-game with ?# 10(81 minutes ago, 5 files, 68+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/62908bb8028b 15:36:52 oh, cool 15:36:54 nice commit 15:36:54 |amethyst: feel free to refactor :) 15:38:08 i remember removing a bunch of spellbooks from overflow altars in the past, it looks like a bunch more have snuck in in the meantime though 15:38:50 most of the currently existing ones are just l1 spells at least though 15:42:45 -!- Blade- has joined ##crawl-dev 15:42:52 is this a comment on the mage vault? 15:43:21 yeah 15:43:48 -!- Blade_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:44:22 Just had an interesting crash in the experimental branch with god of ancestral memory. I think it was because of the ancestor being shafted, and then... something 15:44:44 hm 15:44:48 local crash? 15:44:50 -!- driftw00d has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:44:52 are you running the latest build? 15:44:59 -!- Blade-_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:46:32 I was playing on the experimental branch with god of ancestral memories, and had an interesting crash. May have been something to do with my ancestor getting sucked down a shaft. A few turns into the next dlvl, the game crashed 15:47:06 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:47:17 [12:44] PleasingFungus hm [12:44] PleasingFungus local crash? [12:44] PleasingFungus are you running the latest build? 15:47:19 -!- Blade-_ is now known as Blade- 15:47:33 online on cbro 15:47:40 <|amethyst> this has since been "fixed" 15:47:45 <|amethyst> by not letting ancestors be shafter 15:47:49 <|amethyst> s/ter/ted/ 15:47:54 no 15:47:57 I did a better fix 15:47:57 <|amethyst> (and then there were some actual fixes) 15:47:58 <|amethyst> aha 15:47:59 yes 15:48:01 haha 15:48:09 <|amethyst> I hadn't realised you undid the shaft bit 15:48:27 03Lasty02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1446-gea2821e: Redo Ukayaw piety 10(2 minutes ago, 6 files, 80+ 21-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ea2821ed7e7c 15:48:40 Blade-: hm 15:48:48 !lm Blade- x=vlong 15:48:49 8893. [2016-02-20 20:41:38] [vlong=0.18-a0-1445-g6e6692a] demonblade the Ducker (L3 DsWn of Hepliaklqana) killed Ijyb on turn 1082. (D:2) 15:48:56 -!- Blade_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:48:58 %git combo_god 15:48:58 07Lasty02 * 0.18-a0-1446-gea2821e: Redo Ukayaw piety 10(3 minutes ago, 6 files, 80+ 21-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ea2821ed7e7c 15:49:03 <|amethyst> !crash Blade- x=vlong 15:49:04 46. demonblade, XL17 LOTm, T:51542 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/demonblade/crash-demonblade-20151017-174931.txt 15:49:15 <|amethyst> !lm Blade- crash x=vlong 15:49:16 46. [2015-10-17 17:49:31] [vlong=0.17-a0-2098-gf59d6bc] demonblade the Sensei (L17 LOTm of Okawaru) ASSERT(item.quantity == 1) in 'items.cc' at line 2075 failed on turn 51542. (Orc:3) 15:49:29 odd 15:49:29 probably not the crash being discussed 15:49:29 <|amethyst> oh, did the crash not get logged? 15:49:42 <|amethyst> !lm Blade- crash explbr x=vlong 15:49:42 No milestones for Blade- (crash explbr). 15:49:48 when I tried to reenter the game it said "go to (url) for crash log" 15:49:51 <|amethyst> !lm * crash explbr s=explbr 15:49:53 175 milestones for * (crash explbr): 98x smithgod rebased, 20x no backtracking god, 15x iashol, 11x combo god, 10x ll-iashol, 7x gods, 6x faithful, 4x abyssrun, 2x evoker-god, evoker-god-rebase, salamander 15:50:19 <|amethyst> what url? 15:50:30 I didn't catch it. the screen disappeared too fast 15:50:45 and the next time I tried to enter, it just put me back in the game before the crash 15:51:12 <|amethyst> hm 15:51:52 <|amethyst> hm, nothing in the morge dir either 15:52:03 03Lasty02 07[ukayaw] * 0.18-a0-1283-g4e10b7e: Stub Ukayaw penance (chequers) 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4e10b7edd2d5 15:52:03 03Lasty02 07[ukayaw] * 0.18-a0-1284-g1343f87: Redo Ukayaw piety 10(6 minutes ago, 6 files, 80+ 21-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1343f87042c8 15:52:03 <|amethyst> s/ge/gue/ 15:52:07 okay, he just got shafted again 15:52:15 (in the same place) so it may crash again soon 15:52:24 I'll try to screenshot the crash url this time or something 15:54:18 -!- vale__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:55:26 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1366-ga177635: Align god ability costs in ^/altars 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a17763576fdd 15:55:32 -!- neongrey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:56:38 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:57:56 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: why change strwidth to size? 15:58:17 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: granted, it's all ASCII currently... 15:58:32 for some reason I vaguely thought that strwidth was a c-string thing 15:58:47 out of curiosity, why do shops value slaying so much more than AC or EV? 15:58:51 on jewelry in particular 15:58:52 <|amethyst> hm 15:58:55 <|amethyst> though actually 15:58:57 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1367-g9c73106: Remove a dead parameter 10(15 seconds ago, 3 files, 3+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9c7310668352 15:59:33 <|amethyst> hm 16:00:01 <|amethyst> I guess it wouldn't help much to use strwidth anyway, because %*s is in terms of bytes, not cells 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:44 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:00:45 -!- nosratheno has quit [Quit: Zzzzz] 16:01:06 !tell grunt new elf mages that summon demons don't seem to give tso piety -- may also affect draining bolt mages 16:01:06 johnny0: OK, I'll let grunt know. 16:02:57 ProzacElf: I don't think they do? 16:03:18 the code suggests they have exactly equal value 16:03:49 as artps, anyway. probably the base types are valued differently 16:04:24 yeah, slayrings cost ~50% more than ac/ev rings 16:04:26 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:04:57 so a ring of (ac+6 slay+6) costs considerably less than a ring of (slay+6 ac+6) 16:05:36 huh 16:05:38 <|amethyst> OTOH I'm sure that happens for most artps that are also base jewellery types 16:05:40 oh 16:05:45 weird 16:05:49 <|amethyst> not just slaying vs ev/ac 16:06:11 probably 16:06:40 MarvinPA: Lasty: are wraith type enemies supposed to drain vigour of undead cause that just seems off 16:06:44 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: also, I think it's closer to 125% more 16:06:56 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: because that number gets squared a little later 16:07:05 nice 16:07:17 Chaos Reigns 16:08:04 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-1368-g854002d: Simplify some help lookup code. 10(21 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/854002d423e1 16:08:08 haha, wheals added a note after a FIXME I wrote saying "this is probably fine actually", but didn't remove the FIXME 16:08:08 huh; looks like jiyva's wrath can't slimify things... 16:08:16 Lasty: could just change it to "drains your/its speed" i guess 16:08:17 !source _jiyva_slimify 16:08:17 Lasty: ? 16:08:17 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/godwrath.cc#l1309 16:08:30 lol 16:08:30 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:08:32 "if (success) 16:08:32 return;" 16:08:34 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:08:34 that's probably my fault 16:08:42 -!- clouded_ is now known as st_ 16:08:54 %git 0283411b 16:08:54 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-810-g0283411: Add god wrath descriptions 10(1 year, 6 months ago, 3 files, 976+ 541-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0283411b8fb3 16:09:23 yep 16:09:51 !blame3 PleasingFungus 16:09:52 PleeeeeaaaaasiiiiingFuuuuunguuuuus 16:09:54 was previously "if (found_one)" 16:10:00 which isn't quite the same :) 16:10:56 Lasty: are you fixing? 16:12:07 PleasingFungus: yeah, as soon as I'm done with this other wrath-related thing 16:12:15 you don't need to do it 16:12:26 OK. 16:13:41 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 16:18:36 -!- giann has joined ##crawl-dev 16:18:42 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-1369-g50c440c: More help lookup simplifications with strip_suffix. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/50c440cff6f7 16:19:13 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 16:19:27 nice 16:20:36 -!- elvira_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:22:00 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:25:57 -!- rj54x has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:26:25 <|amethyst> in retrospect I should have put // perhaps we should assert this? on the same line as that strip_suffix call 16:26:31 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:26:39 <|amethyst> making my millimarvins less negative 16:28:58 haha 16:28:59 -!- eb_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:28:59 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:34:05 -!- MakMorn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:36:47 http://sprunge.us/IVic anyone have opinions on this? 16:37:33 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:40:18 I suppose it's... power creep.. 16:41:46 PleasingFungus: you call it "desquash" -- something else squashing it? 16:41:51 yes 16:41:54 <|amethyst> squash_plusses 16:42:02 no 16:42:17 !source makeitem.cc:478 16:42:17 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/makeitem.cc#l478 16:42:18 and 16:42:23 !source makeitem.cc1254 16:42:24 Can't find makeitem.cc1254. 16:42:24 PleasingFungus: it seems like this is a fairly big buff to armour enchantment level 16:42:29 !source makeitem.cc:1254 16:42:30 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/makeitem.cc#l1254 16:42:37 oh 16:42:42 <|amethyst> oh 16:42:42 fuck, I forgot to exclude qda 16:42:49 Lasty: is it? 16:42:56 <|amethyst> I didn't realize that plus squashing didn't use squash_plusses 16:43:05 |amethyst: yeah that's kinda baffling to me 16:43:28 I guess squash_plusses() is only used externally 16:43:30 funny naming 16:43:59 <|amethyst> it's used for hides and for ISPEC_MUNDANE 16:44:05 <|amethyst> hmm 16:44:17 <|amethyst> haha, yes 16:44:35 <|amethyst> trivial wizmode crash &%mundane deck 16:44:41 oops 16:44:43 <|amethyst> explicitly so 16:44:46 PleasingFungus: the function's sole purpose is to make +0 armour/aux items in stores +1-2, right? How is that not a significant buff/ 16:45:00 aux items? 16:45:02 what? 16:45:14 oh, er, missed the body armour restriction 16:45:18 so just weapons and armour 16:45:23 yes 16:45:31 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 16:45:47 are that many people on store-bought egoless weapons & armour? 16:45:52 *relying on 16:46:49 PleasingFungus: is this only called on egoless items? 16:47:13 only egoless items will get their plusses squashed to zero - but that's a fair point, I should exclude them from this 16:47:27 reverse-engineering... 16:47:43 ideally we'd go through makeitem.cc, but I really do not want to add another parameter to items() 16:48:12 +1-2 is a pretty solid bonus on the more rare weapon/item types, where even an egoless one is exciting. Eveningstars, double and triple swords, lajatangs, dragon armour . . . 16:48:27 all of those would definitely profit from +1-2 16:48:49 okay. 16:48:52 <|amethyst> were there any compensating buffs when squashing was added? 16:48:55 no. 16:49:05 <|amethyst> I don't really see the problem then 16:49:16 <|amethyst> assuming you make it apply to egoless only 16:49:23 Lasty: is there a reason why it's okay for shops to generate +3, +4, etc weapons/armour, but not +1 or +2? 16:49:48 <|amethyst> I'd rather avoid the squashing in the first place, but as you say that's difficult 16:49:59 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:50:12 <|amethyst> alternatively 16:50:18 <|amethyst> remove squashing altogether 16:50:27 <|amethyst> and make +1 show up as cosmetic 16:50:42 that was considered to be 'anti-player' 16:50:42 <|amethyst> and nerf the distribution to compensate 16:50:58 PleasingFungus: I don't think it's wrong to generate +1/2 -- there's context I'm missing and maybe that explains everything, but I just think it's worth being concerned about raising the average level of enchantment in the game 16:50:58 <|amethyst> oh, because +1 is unexciting? 16:51:05 pretty much 16:51:11 <|amethyst> Lasty: some versions ago 16:51:12 it'd be nearly the same situation as before 16:51:28 littering the game with garbage armour & weapons to check 16:52:44 Ah, so the idea is that in general, if a weapon/body armour would be +1/2, it's getting squashed down so that there's less slightly-better-than-crap stuff around, and you're proposing we undo that just for ID'd stores because the items are already ID'd and thus it doesn't add more crap to check 16:53:08 <|amethyst> exactly, or at leas tthat would be my argument 16:53:52 In that context it doesn't sound as much like a problem 16:54:29 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 16:54:29 it seems probably better for shops to use the same rules as for normal items than for them not to 16:56:00 03Lasty02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1447-ga06d9b7: Add Ukayaw wrath 10(8 seconds ago, 2 files, 53+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a06d9b79fe5b 16:56:17 * PleasingFungus sends down his wrath on Lasty! 16:56:44 MarvinPA: arguably, they already break the rules; normal items don't come pre-ID'd. 16:57:50 03Lasty02 07[ukayaw] * 0.18-a0-1285-gaadc8fc: Add Ukayaw wrath 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 53+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/aadc8fc88ff1 16:59:24 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 16:59:30 <|amethyst> hm 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:10 Lasty: did you check sprints yet? 17:00:16 PleasingFungus: not yet 17:00:18 ait 17:00:20 next on my list 17:00:33 oo, DANCE FRENZY 17:00:52 <|amethyst> I guess it would be a pain to move the squashing out of items and into dgn_place_item and the like, because there are probably a lot of places that would need to happen 17:01:01 <|amethyst> also mon-gear and the like 17:01:01 !source choose_random_nearby_monster 17:01:02 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-util.cc#l5246 17:01:06 -!- neongrey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:01:09 03Lasty02 07* 0.18-a0-1370-gc45fe74: Let the wrath-slime flow again 10(14 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c45fe74b6019 17:01:13 heh, how long does H wrath actually last? the description is basically "as long as he feels like it" 17:01:25 ProzacElf: as long as ash wrath 17:01:34 how many god wraths currently include "well i don't know what other effects to use so i guess loud noises will do" (i know i've added at least one of these!) 17:01:37 ah 17:01:41 that makes sense 17:01:52 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: does that count miscasts? 17:01:57 3 calls to noisy 17:02:02 not coutning U's 17:02:05 *counting 17:02:10 but none of those are as loud as U's 17:02:20 to be fair, i don't expect most of the gods to be quiet when they're angry 17:02:24 U really likes loud 17:02:36 which one was yours, MPA? TSO? Zin? 17:02:49 qazlal, replacing the "turn the floor around you to lava" effect 17:02:52 ahh 17:02:56 rip that 17:04:03 Lasty: i think the paralysis effect is missing punctuation at the end 17:04:34 of the god speech that is 17:05:06 haha 17:05:15 turn the floor to lava was great 17:06:06 MarvinPA: ah, thanks! 17:07:59 hmm does that implementation make casting summon butterflies a lot whenever you gain xp a secret tech 17:08:39 MarvinPA: which implementation? 17:09:09 trying to pick a random nearby hostile monster and otherwise falling through to noise 17:09:18 assuming you prefer noise to being paralysed 17:09:21 butterflies aren't hostile, tho 17:09:29 er oh 17:09:31 I see what you mean 17:09:54 MarvinPA: I just figure being paralyzed w/ no monsters around is pretty lame wrath 17:10:50 sacrifice love 17:10:51 solution: turn summoned butterflies into doom butterflies 17:10:55 learn sumon butterflies 17:11:14 could specifically only check for hostile monsters, rather than checking every monster but trying again if it's not hostile? 17:11:31 or spite butterflies, if we don't want to over-use "doom" as an adjective 17:11:44 i think choose_random_nearby_monster has support for that 17:11:55 MarvinPA: seems reasonable. I was copying from another wrath on the premise that that would be the ideal method, but that may have been a bad idea 17:12:59 investigating choose_random_nearby_monster now 17:13:17 I would describe it as an "anti-pattern" 17:13:32 i guess actual summoners might reasonably just have lots of allies around when fighting so it maybe would be better generally to change it for other wrath effects too, yeah 17:14:11 yeah 17:21:08 is there an actual upper limit to how much contam you can get? 17:21:48 i just saw that contam explosions do 3d(contam/2000) damage and was wondering if there's a cap on it 17:23:25 not afaik? 17:24:00 heh 17:24:01 nice 17:24:04 i bet it's capped at MAX_INT, at most 17:25:12 contam is capped at 250000 17:25:25 !source contaminate_player 17:25:25 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/player.cc#l4308 17:27:01 -!- sorlin has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:28:14 !calc 250000*3/2000 17:28:15 375 17:28:19 pfft 17:31:37 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:34:19 -!- sorlin has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:35:27 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:36:13 -!- neongrey has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:38:21 -!- sorlin1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:39:41 -!- giann has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:46:59 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0.2/20160210153822]] 17:49:06 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1465-g474641b: Merge branch 'master' into combo_god 10(12 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/474641bc08ac 17:53:40 -!- cba has quit [Client Quit] 17:54:21 -!- cba has quit [Client Quit] 17:54:47 03Lasty02 07[ukayaw] * 0.18-a0-1286-g12cb577: Improve hostile monster detection in wrath (MarvinPA) 10(12 seconds ago, 1 file, 9+ 15-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/12cb577ae84e 17:55:14 03Lasty02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1466-g5ee8a29: Improve hostile monster detection in wrath (MarvinPA) 10(39 seconds ago, 1 file, 9+ 15-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5ee8a290994d 17:55:34 after I merge Ukayaw I'll refactor the Jiyva one too 17:56:08 -!- cba has quit [Client Quit] 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01:27 is U aimed for 0.18? i'd sort of assumed not 18:02:31 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:03:10 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 18:03:46 MarvinPA: well, maybe we should discuss that. I think Grunt was against to some degree, and PF seems in favor of including it. 18:03:52 I'm open to suggestions 18:04:38 Basically, I'm happy to do whatever makes life easiest/best for the rest of the team 18:04:46 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-a0-1370-gc45fe74 (34) 18:05:00 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:05:33 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:07:01 03Lasty02 07[ukayaw] * 0.18-a0-1287-g5d7d4be: Fix linesprint w/ Ukayaw 10(19 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5d7d4bed07e1 18:08:31 -!- Medar has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:09:11 having not really played either properly my uninformed opinion is that pakellas probably could do with some attention for release first, at least 18:09:17 -!- Medar has joined ##crawl-dev 18:09:39 MarvinPA: do you have any particular elements in Pak you want to work on? 18:10:43 !tell PleasingFungus only linesprint had issues w/ U, looks like 18:10:44 Lasty: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 18:12:08 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:12:43 -!- Bakman329 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:12:47