00:00:08 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:03:51 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1437-g8ceb6fa: A better fix for ancestors in the abyss 10(31 seconds ago, 3 files, 8+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8ceb6facbc83 00:08:38 PleasingFungus: did you see my two commits? Do you want to use them? Are you interested in more intrusive proceduralism? 00:08:54 right now I am sort of preoccupied with making anything work at all 00:08:56 sorry 00:09:02 it is on my list 00:09:08 yep fair enough, no rush 00:09:18 i'll make you some vaults or something :) 00:09:23 excellent 00:10:05 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:11:24 !hs * explbr=combo_god 00:11:25 670. Lightli the Executioner (L27 HOGl of Hepliaklqana), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2016-02-18 10:16:56, with 2390588 points after 68546 turns and 2:18:00. 00:11:27 !hs * explbr=combo_god s=god 00:11:28 670 games for * (explbr=combo_god): 420x, 201x Ukayaw, 30x Hepliaklqana, 3x Xom, 3x Okawaru, 2x Gozag, 2x Vehumet, 2x Elyvilon, Cheibriados, Makhleb, Trog, Ashenzari, Dithmenos, Yredelemnul, Qazlal 00:12:13 !hs * explbr=combo_god won god!=ukayaw god!=hepliaklqana s=god 00:12:14 One game for * (explbr=combo_god won god!=ukayaw god!=hepliaklqana): Okawaru 00:12:20 !hs * explbr=combo_god won god!=ukayaw god!=hepliaklqana s=god -log 00:12:21 One game for * (explbr=combo_god won god!=ukayaw god!=hepliaklqana): Okawaru 00:12:35 !lg * explbr=combo_god won god!=ukayaw god!=hepliaklqana s=god -log 00:12:36 One game for * (explbr=combo_god won god!=ukayaw god!=hepliaklqana): Okawaru 00:12:54 I think -log doesn't work with s= 00:13:11 !log * explbr=combo_god won god!=ukayaw god!=hepliaklqana 00:13:12 1. moose, XL27 GhIE, T:70949: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/moose/morgue-moose-20160216-061942.txt 00:13:32 weird 00:14:31 -!- Lightli_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:58 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:16:20 ah ty geekosaur 00:16:58 2314 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Warmaster Okawaru 00:17:43 I suppose if you found a nice D2 oka altar, you might thinkg 'hey, let's DO THIS okastyle!', but weird to play combo_god and not bother with the actual new god 00:18:01 -!- Crawl_Bacchus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:18:05 hey 00:18:08 maybe they weren't in temple 00:19:45 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1438-gca22fba: Don't allow choosing offlevel ancestors' type 10(30 seconds ago, 1 file, 8+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ca22fba8e8bc 00:20:01 i realised the mifi of oka was a brand new player who just thought "experimental" sounded cooler than "0.17" btw 00:20:14 which is reasonable 00:21:20 haha 00:22:24 as a new player I would not play 'experimental' 00:23:19 and that's because you're a wuss. 00:23:26 you're the sort of person who gets a 22 game streak spreading over a year, though 00:23:45 !streak zxc 00:23:46 zxc has 31 consecutive wins (HOBe, DsMo, HaHu, NaIE, FoAK, MfVM, GrFE, TrWn, MiSk, DDGl, CeWr, VSAs, DrWz, HuFi, OgAM, SpEn, KoAr, HECj, VpNe, DEEE, TeSu, FeTm, DgAE, GhCK, OpCj, MuAs, MiWn, TrSk, DDEE, MfAK, GrGl), and can keep going! 00:23:49 hm 00:23:55 that seems like too many wins. 00:24:02 someone should stop this person. 00:24:07 sorry, 31 00:24:08 !remove zxc 00:24:09 03zxc * 0.18-a0-1561-g3984191: Remove zxc 10(in the future, 5 files, 256+ 634-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3984191 00:24:15 brutal..! 00:24:15 !lg zxc 00:24:16 106. zzxc the Conqueror (L27 GrGl of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-02-05 11:09:17, with 1595072 points after 84536 turns and 5:47:54. 00:24:19 !lg zxc -2 00:24:20 105/106. zzxc the Phalangite (L27 MfAK of Lugonu), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-01-16 09:41:12, with 1444989 points after 104751 turns and 6:31:38. 00:24:22 !lg zxc !won 00:24:23 34. zzxc the Slasher (L3 DsGl), quit the game on D:2 on 2015-01-27 17:24:12, with 46 points after 2240 turns and 0:07:08. 00:24:26 lol 00:24:28 !lg zxc !won !boring 00:24:29 27. zzxc the Martial Artist (L11 VSMo of Okawaru), slain by a black mamba on Lair:1 on 2015-01-26 14:50:57, with 8082 points after 12319 turns and 0:37:58. 00:24:38 that one I quaffed curing thinking it would heal me 00:24:44 well 00:24:45 in a sense 00:24:46 !lg zxc the worst 00:24:46 No keyword 'the' 00:24:49 oops 00:25:02 it wasn't greyed out 00:25:03 ok it's 5pm, time for beer 00:25:07 so I forgot I was VS 00:26:10 ah ha 00:26:11 I have an idea 00:26:20 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:28:04 -!- Misder has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:28:14 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1354-gbc5753f (34) 00:42:47 looking at this old thread about MD removal is kind of funny 00:42:53 link? 00:42:54 especially with the perspective of time 00:43:01 https://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/whisper-farewell-when-you-leave-gimli 00:43:24 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 00:43:46 i mean, it was more an announcement, but apparently comments were much more common on the announcements page back then 00:43:55 or it attracted a bunch 00:43:57 or both 00:44:11 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 00:44:37 -!- Evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:44:37 ah, I thought it was a tavern thread 00:44:45 4) Dwarven equips were better on MDs, for what little it’s worth. No, dwarven equips don’t play into the game much at all – racial equips in general don’t – but they were nice small boosts for dwarves when they came up, and MDs benefit from the heavier armor and weapons than the mixed-style DDs did. 00:45:01 I went through this a short time ago, it was interesting reading 00:46:18 yeah 00:46:23 -!- ProzacElf_ is now known as ProzacElf 00:46:46 Also, another thing, I think a main reason these three races played so similarly is a symptom of a bigger problem: melee has next to no depth, utility, or versatility compared to magic. If every weapon type had a special ability added to it (like with polearms in trunk) and each of these three races specialized in different weapon types then they would further be different. The fact that MD... 00:46:47 ...was cut before this change was fully implemented (if it will be implemented), shows a lack of foresight in my opinion. 00:46:55 the funniest part is people complaining that they feel like they have no input 00:47:17 when the majority of them clearly didn't even try to give input until after the fact 00:47:49 i mean, i'm not saying you guys follow through on all the crap we throw at you 00:48:03 but i've never felt like you didn't at least hear me out when i had something to say 00:49:03 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 00:50:33 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1439-gdf16335: Add a cruddy patch for offlevel ancestor issues 10(28 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/df16335ce40a 00:50:33 03PleasingFungus02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1440-g442031f: Fix offlevel companion upgrades 10(2 minutes ago, 5 files, 58+ 26-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/442031fc6ec1 00:51:27 ??rebuild 00:51:37 !learn q rebuild 00:51:38 rebuild[1/2]: https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 00:51:42 see? i was just saying we needed a cruddy patch and you delivered! =P 00:52:06 ironically, (a) that patch was buggy and (b) I forgot it existed before pushing the fix for it 00:58:41 -!- Franz__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:59:21 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:00:08 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:03:38 haha 01:05:26 Experimental (combo_god) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1440-g442031f 01:05:29 ooo 01:05:31 d:4 /haste 01:05:34 PleasingFungus: is that stuff about melee your opinion? 01:05:45 woops 01:05:46 oh no, from the blog 01:05:47 what 01:05:49 wrong channel 01:05:59 oh 01:06:05 yeah that was a blog comment 01:06:10 from several years ago 01:06:11 sorry 01:06:18 yeah, lack of foresight. If only the devs waited until an unspecified year beyond 2016, when all weapons are really unique! 01:09:43 fr: maces add ministun 01:09:50 -!- koboldina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:09:59 and swords cause bleeding 01:11:58 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1354-gbc5753f (34) 01:11:59 unfr 01:12:31 my favorite mechanical suggestion was the one where moving toward enemies would give you a free attack 01:12:38 brogue rapier 01:13:30 necrodancer rapier 01:13:32 imo 01:13:33 <_< 01:14:10 there are major flaws with the idea but I really like the core concept 01:14:15 I do think the weapon types should be unique as possible 01:14:26 I think polearms are fine, axes too 01:14:32 polearms are really clunky 01:14:35 but the rest could use spicing up 01:14:38 yes that is true 01:15:37 what if tab with a polearm considered enemies 2 tiles away as equidistant to 1 tile away enemies? 01:15:57 then you wouldn't have to manually evoke to kill a dangerous enemy that is sitting behind a weak one 01:16:31 sounds reasonable, but would require someone tinkering with the autofight script 01:16:34 a terrifying prospect 01:16:38 uhoh 01:16:39 that seems difficult to code considering how tab works 01:16:39 ontoclasm: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 01:16:45 !messages 01:16:46 (1/1) |amethyst said (5h 53m 6s ago): PF tells me I should thank you for Hep's "ancestor" flavour... I really like it 01:17:00 I mean, tab already does evoke polearms..... 01:17:56 -!- HalfStep has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:18:51 hm 01:18:55 honestly it looks like it does that already 01:19:19 uh 01:19:25 it also specifically prioritizes orc priests and wizards 01:19:47 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1354-gbc5753f (34) 01:20:36 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:20:39 it does...? 01:20:51 yes 01:20:57 re priests/wizards 01:21:09 re other stuff, it prioritizes closer targets as a high priority 01:21:36 that is the craziest special casing 01:21:56 other special cases: butterflies, ballistomycetes, orbs of destruction 01:22:10 you can attack oods? 01:23:00 no 01:23:03 hence, the special case 01:23:05 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 01:23:13 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:24:59 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:25:06 zxc: iirc it was for Orc; when you get there priests and wizards are in the same "danger bracket" as plain orcs, i.e. the bottom, so it would tab plain orcs instead of priests 01:25:54 why are they the same danger bracket though? What even ranks them? 01:26:06 <|amethyst> @??orc 01:26:06 orc (04o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 6-8 | AC/EV: 1/9 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | XP: 3 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 01:26:09 <|amethyst> @??orc priest 01:26:09 orc priest (03o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 3 | HP: 13-18 | AC/EV: 3/9 | Dam: 6 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest, evil | Res: 06magic(20) | Vul: 08holy | XP: 41 | Sp: pain (d14) [11!AM], cantrip [11!AM], smiting (7-17) [11!AM], heal other (2d1) [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 01:26:13 it's by XP 01:26:15 versus your XL 01:26:24 -!- nomicflux has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:26:27 there's a function in mon-util somewhere, threat_level iirc? 01:26:39 3 xp orc, 41 xp priest? 01:27:02 <|amethyst> // Conjurators use melee to conserve mana, MDFis switch plates... 01:27:02 <|amethyst> return MTHRT_TRIVIAL; 01:27:04 when you're xl 14 neither of those register 01:27:29 @??hydra 01:27:29 hydra (09D) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 13 | HP: 60-83 | AC/EV: 0/5 | Dam: 18 per head | amphibious, cold-blooded, regen | Res: 06magic(60), 03poison, 12drown | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 976 | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 01:27:51 at xl 14 wizards don't matter 01:28:02 if anything it would be better to special case smiting enemies in particular 01:28:06 and tormenting enemies 01:28:08 <|amethyst> @??orc wizard 01:28:08 orc wizard (06o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 3 | HP: 13-17 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 39 | Sp: magic dart (3d4), slow, haste, blink / throw flame (3d5), invisibility, magic dart (3d4), confuse / throw frost (3d5), cantrip, haste, throw flame (3d5), magic dart (3d4), invisibility [04emergency] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 01:28:09 mostly not, but a bunch of priests can still maybe kill you 01:28:14 if they get lucky 01:28:20 and you're like a felid or something 01:28:38 more of an issue when orc was earlier in the game 01:28:39 imo 01:28:55 http://sprunge.us/Jijc someone who knows lua 01:28:57 tell me what I'm doing wrong 01:30:13 <|amethyst> !calc 30*40*40 01:30:14 48000 01:30:52 <|amethyst> !calc 30*39*39 01:30:53 45630 01:30:57 ? 01:31:58 <|amethyst> oop 01:32:02 <|amethyst> !calc 30*38*38 01:32:03 43320 01:32:12 38 more to go 01:32:29 ??cpo 01:32:33 !learn q cpo 01:32:33 cpo[1/1]: DCSS server in Sydney. Run by chequers. https://crawl.project357.org 01:32:34 -!- Hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:32:42 <|amethyst> you need to be at an XL that requires 48000 XP (15 for humans) before orc priests are "trivial" 01:32:55 <|amethyst> 43320 (so 14 for humans) before orc wizards are trivial 01:33:11 -!- Leszczynek has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 01:34:48 -!- Alcopop has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:34:48 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: 0 is true 01:36:00 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: maybe adx = math.max(abs(dx) - 1, 1) 01:36:30 -!- iFurril has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:36:36 -!- glaas has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:37:00 agh 01:37:38 "string expected, got nil" in process_keys 01:37:45 hooray for bad values going way downstream 01:38:15 !lg n1000 01:38:16 597. n1000 the Black Belt (L21 MfTm of Dithmenos), demolished by a phantasmal warrior (led by a death knight) on Crypt:2 (grunt_megastairs_3) on 2015-10-24 09:02:46, with 318944 points after 49334 turns and 3:41:28. 01:38:19 hm 01:38:50 -!- n1 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:39:10 oh, so that was your comment 01:39:15 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 01:39:18 it looked almost exactly like spam 01:39:20 hello 01:39:25 hello :) 01:39:34 what exactly are you DLing? 01:40:05 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I suspect the stuff about -info.distance > 2 a few lines down would need to change 01:40:14 trunk! I want to check out okawaru 01:40:40 just because of the duration/piety cost changes? 01:41:02 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:41:23 yes, there's an old, niche tactic (go heavily into invocations for perma-heroism) I'd like to revisit 01:41:28 |amethyst: that's a better place to make the change, actually 01:41:42 n1: neat! marvinpa will be pleased, or horrified, depending 01:41:45 it was his change from a few weeks ago 01:42:10 oh cool 01:42:50 It looks like the Hepliaklqana link is broken on that blog post 01:42:55 hrm 01:43:22 two missing closing quotes 01:43:30 should work now 01:43:42 zxc: I implemented it 01:44:19 but the problem is that the 50/50 chance of failing to reach makes it sort of dubious to treat further enemies as equal to adjacent ones 01:44:36 <|amethyst> I was just thinking about that 01:45:01 <|amethyst> you could go by whether something is in the way, but that seems prone to bugs 01:45:10 I'm gonna let it go for now 01:46:22 I thought if you failed you would hit the enemy in the way instead 01:46:57 <|amethyst> 15@2 01:47:12 <|amethyst> you probably don't want to hit the enemy in the way in that situation 01:47:21 also, you do not. 01:47:25 or I did not, anyway. 01:47:32 <|amethyst> hm 01:47:50 but you're going to hit the enemy in the way if you attack the closest enemy instead 01:47:56 so what difference does it really make? 01:48:04 the real questions 01:48:09 <|amethyst> zxc: you'd hit the 2 rather than the 5 because it has higher threat level 01:48:38 yes 01:49:48 Just further proof that the developers have no interest in attracting new players. They are driving what *was* a standout game in a niche genre further and further into the “You don’t want to play this unless you are already intimately familiar with it” stereotype that plagues so many roguelikes. 01:50:15 qft 01:50:55 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:52:17 indeed! 01:52:19 haha 01:52:22 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: mountain dwarf removal? 01:52:34 yep 01:52:39 skimming randomly through the old comment 01:52:43 <|amethyst> aww 01:52:46 but tbh it could be about anything 01:52:53 regen ring -> amulet...? 01:52:54 <|amethyst> I was hoping you would say, "No, $CURRENT_EVENT" 01:52:57 <|amethyst> :) 01:52:59 <|amethyst> exactly 01:53:19 I can certainly find no shortage of anger about rmut removal or wand changes, if you want 01:53:21 <|amethyst> ring of invis 01:53:39 <|amethyst> That's the one that people who hated MD removal ought to be most worked up about 01:53:59 <|amethyst> it's like we're literally pissing on the grave of J.R.R. Tolkein 01:54:19 speaking of bad removals 01:54:27 why was the ] hotkey function removed? 01:54:33 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:54:45 that sounds like wheals 01:54:55 https://crawl.project357.org/watch/principiadiscordia if you don't remember what it did 01:55:00 -!- FireSight has quit [] 01:55:03 "They are also upset that important decisions are being based entirely over flavor and theme, as opposed to gameplay. They are ALSO upset that, from the countless proposals that have been listed, none have been considered and almost all have been brushed off. (No one plays this game for the story or 01:55:12 !blame3 wheals 01:55:13 wheeeeeaaaaals 01:55:24 I do not remember what it did 01:55:32 it showed in a nice window what you are wearing and wielding 01:55:38 what, like %? 01:55:39 it did? 01:55:46 look at the link 01:55:49 I am 01:55:49 in a window? 01:55:51 like % except nicer 01:55:58 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1354-gbc5753f 01:56:08 clelarer 01:56:08 I think there is some desperate hope that we may someday not have literally every key on the keyboard bound 01:56:10 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:56:15 by default 01:56:19 that was actually a good key though that I used often 01:56:47 i'm honestly not seeing why that's preferable to % 01:57:02 less clutter, clearer 01:57:02 more contrast 01:57:11 and doesn't show empty slots 01:57:19 and doesn't require holding shift 01:57:23 haha 01:57:28 that is taxing 01:57:33 not a thing I feel strongly about one way or another 01:57:33 it is with rsi 01:57:33 having to hit shift and all 01:57:38 rsi? 01:57:53 <|amethyst> repetitititive strain injury 01:57:54 repetitive shifting injury 01:57:59 ah 01:58:16 though I have now given myself the idea to macro ] to % 01:58:20 <|amethyst> heh 01:58:21 that solves the last problem 01:58:23 repetitititititititive, |amethyst? 01:58:24 but the rest is still an issue 01:58:43 thing is, [ sort of does the same thing 01:58:47 <|amethyst> !motto repetitititive 01:58:47 R! R-Repetitititive! Repetitititive! REPETITITITIVE! 01:58:54 but it prints it in the message area, and it is no good 01:59:00 if anything get rid of that and bring back ] 01:59:02 <|amethyst> !motto $(!motto repetitititive) 01:59:02 RRRR! R-R!! R-R-Repetitititive!! R-Repetitititive!! R-REPETITITITIVE!! R! R-Repetitititive! Repetitititive! REPETITITITIVE!! R! R-REPETITITITIVE! REPETITITITIVE! REPETITITITIVE!! 01:59:09 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:59:13 -!- Ender__ has quit [Client Quit] 01:59:14 you have to hit " to see jewellery because [ only shows armour 01:59:20 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0.2/20160210153822]] 01:59:28 and you can't even view the weapon 01:59:43 <|amethyst> err 01:59:59 <|amethyst> I think that's because the weapon is over in the status area 02:00:08 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:21 <|amethyst> though I guess there is shortening 02:00:32 shortening is the literal devil 02:01:02 anyway, [ and " are crappy whereas ] was good but removed 02:01:21 you can remove TWO hotkeys [ and " for the price of bringing back just one ] 02:03:44 remove all hotkeys in favor of mouse support 02:06:53 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:09:46 zxc: dwiw i swap 1234567890 with !@#$%^&*() at the OS level. so the only awkward shift-key in crawl for me is 5, which i remap to - 02:10:00 s/remap/macro/ 02:10:13 wild 02:10:36 who needs numbers 02:12:24 huh 02:12:25 i didn't know spectral weapons could activate teletraps 02:13:18 remap everything to o and tab obviously 02:14:57 I remapped s to o 02:15:08 so that my two favourite keys were almost adjacent 02:19:05 s? 02:20:05 s is quite useless in the default keymap 02:20:09 if you use numpad 02:20:33 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 02:21:08 uh....it doesn't do anything if you don't use numpad either does it? 02:21:11 oh 02:21:13 same as . 02:21:27 if you use numpad you just use 5 02:21:39 to wait a turn 02:21:42 at least I do... 02:22:33 if you use vi keys then the default o makes more sense 02:23:01 but I'm used to numpad and I play a lot of other games where hovering around 1234 wasd tab is normal 02:23:11 you play other games? 02:23:12 heretic. 02:24:46 haha 02:25:16 the real heresy is using numpad 02:25:23 indeed 02:25:30 I play tiles too 02:25:43 that's fine 02:25:47 no it isn't 02:25:51 but vikeys are clearly the path forward 02:25:54 vikeys for life 02:26:07 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:26:13 hey, what about people that use arrow keys + vi keys for diagonal movement? 02:26:27 devilspawn 02:26:48 mutant humans 02:27:08 i... used to do that :-X 02:27:21 but then i saw the light. 02:27:40 -!- Evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:29:15 Numpad for life 02:29:18 -!- Lightli_ is now known as Lightli 02:29:36 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:31:13 -!- oxeimon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:35:05 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:41:50 -!- Idolo has quit [] 02:53:32 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1354-gbc5753f 02:57:40 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:58:24 -!- West1C has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:00:08 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:36 -!- mopl_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:03:48 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:04:09 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:11:44 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1354-gbc5753f (34) 03:12:02 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 03:19:18 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:21:16 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 03:21:49 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:25:05 -!- West1C_ is now known as West1C 03:36:33 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:47:17 -!- broquaint has joined ##crawl-dev 03:48:41 -!- neongrey has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:48:41 -!- West1C has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:51:59 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:57:32 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:00:08 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:45 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 04:04:37 -!- infrashortfoo has joined ##crawl-dev 04:06:01 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:08:39 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:09:53 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:14:30 -!- neongrey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:18:35 -!- edsrzf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:18:40 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:20:24 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:25:51 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 04:28:55 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:34:45 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:48:55 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:49:54 -!- panicbit has quit [Quit: rebooting] 04:50:14 -!- jetnerd has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:51:13 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:52:16 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:00:09 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:21:14 -!- Mindiell is now known as piks3l 05:22:22 -!- piks3l is now known as Mindiell 05:24:23 -!- neongrey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:27:19 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 05:37:43 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:41:32 -!- infrashortfoo has joined ##crawl-dev 05:41:46 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:43:09 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:59:02 -!- FIQ has quit [Excess Flood] 06:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:35 -!- FIQ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:09:40 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:10:14 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:12:59 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:34:35 -!- Floodkiller has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:37:47 Mysterious player ghost placement error 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10291 by Undo 06:56:22 -!- sorlin1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:06:28 -!- johlstei_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:09:49 -!- johlstei has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:24:40 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 07:26:21 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 07:30:31 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 07:33:53 New branch created: pull/237 (3 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/237 07:33:53 03Julian Ospald02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/237 * 0.18-a0-1355-g7927399: MAKE: use PKGCONFIG to get ncurses flags, if available 10(63 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7927399449c4 07:33:53 03Julian Ospald02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/237 * 0.18-a0-1356-g39d12bf: MAKE: always use $(PKGCONFIG) instead of pkg-config 10(60 minutes ago, 2 files, 4+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/39d12bfca474 07:33:53 03Julian Ospald02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/237 * 0.18-a0-1357-g6d58ad3: MAKE: consistently support user provided compile flags 10(31 minutes ago, 2 files, 6+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6d58ad3d65a1 07:39:01 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:39:09 ...we support compiling without unicode libcurses? 07:42:14 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:45:03 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:49:36 -!- jefus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:50:01 -!- Crawl_Bacchus has quit [Quit: Look what I got, Bart, a Tickle-Me Krusty doll!] 07:51:03 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:52:28 -!- grimmulfr has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:04:30 03Julian Ospald02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/237 * 0.18-a0-1358-g2c22f71: MAKE: allow to skip automagic gold linker detection 10(49 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2c22f71a1d85 08:06:31 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:07:07 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 08:07:36 I am skeptical of any build system improvements that add more lines to makefile than remove :D 08:10:54 ...why would a system have gold if it doesn't work :( 08:11:36 good question 08:16:25 -!- jefus_ is now known as jefus 08:19:18 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:20:46 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0.2/20160210153822]] 08:26:26 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:27:31 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:38:35 -!- infrashortfoo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:40:51 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:42:33 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:49:21 -!- FIQ is now known as Guest43745 08:50:11 * geekosaur recalls encountering someone on OS X who went to considerable effort to force gold to build/install 09:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:08:08 "This update is the reason why I don’t play anymore." :P 09:08:21 devs must be doing a good job 09:08:25 -!- siepu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:11:02 -!- zol1 is now known as zol 09:15:30 <|amethyst> added a comment to that pr 09:16:41 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:22:59 -!- serq has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:23:42 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:27:40 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:37:56 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 09:40:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:42:43 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 09:43:37 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:45:41 -!- serq has quit [Quit: suddenly gone...] 09:45:56 -!- cang has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:53:05 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:05:24 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 10:05:56 -!- Pseudonut has quit [Client Quit] 10:07:11 03Julian Ospald02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/237 * 0.18-a0-1355-gfd26eed: MAKE: use PKGCONFIG to get ncurses flags, if available 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 16+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fd26eed89bbe 10:07:11 03Julian Ospald02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/237 * 0.18-a0-1356-g4c94a6b: MAKE: always use $(PKGCONFIG) instead of pkg-config 10(4 hours ago, 2 files, 4+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4c94a6bea470 10:07:11 03Julian Ospald02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/237 * 0.18-a0-1357-gcf5b511: MAKE: allow to skip automagic gold linker detection 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cf5b5111a5bb 10:08:46 -!- Alcopop has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:13:03 -!- blackdep has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:13:59 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:21:39 -!- sorlin has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:28:41 -!- West1C_ has quit [] 10:31:26 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:35:41 03Julian Ospald02 07* 0.18-a0-1355-gfd26eed: MAKE: use PKGCONFIG to get ncurses flags, if available 10(34 minutes ago, 1 file, 16+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fd26eed89bbe 10:35:41 03Julian Ospald02 07* 0.18-a0-1356-g4c94a6b: MAKE: always use $(PKGCONFIG) instead of pkg-config 10(4 hours ago, 2 files, 4+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4c94a6bea470 10:35:41 03Julian Ospald02 07* 0.18-a0-1357-gcf5b511: MAKE: allow to skip automagic gold linker detection 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cf5b5111a5bb 10:35:41 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-1358-gd0e7041: Factor out ncurses vs ncursesw in the Makefile. 10(19 seconds ago, 1 file, 10+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d0e70415cf64 10:36:56 <|amethyst> Someone should try Windows, Android, and Mac builds to verify that doesn't break anything 10:37:07 <|amethyst> both native and cross Windows builds 10:37:13 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:40:31 <|amethyst> also, theoretically this could introduce spurious-ish warnings 10:40:44 -!- bgiannan2 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:41:02 <|amethyst> on systems (probably most) where pkg-config --cflags ncurses uses -I rather than -isystem 10:41:07 Hi All. Background color is messed up when I play via ssh in tmux. Any idea how to fix it ? 10:41:21 <|amethyst> since -isystem means among other things "ignore warnings in these headers" 10:41:49 <|amethyst> bgiannan2: I have to go now or I'd look into it, but a screenshot might help 10:42:07 <|amethyst> bgiannan2: my first guess would be to check the setting of TERM and maybe try another one 10:42:39 <|amethyst> it might just be that the server lacks a definition for your $TERM or has a bad one 10:42:51 <|amethyst> (echo $TERM from the command line inside tmux) 10:43:16 it's xterm-256color 10:43:16 <|amethyst> anyway, I do have to go, but if no one else can help I'll be around this evening (UTC-5) 10:43:22 ok thx 10:43:45 <|amethyst> pretty sure the servers have that one 10:43:48 <|amethyst> hm 10:43:49 <|amethyst> later 10:46:23 hm. woulda been faster to reclone than to pull a year's worth of changes on the mac >.> 10:46:32 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:46:48 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 10:50:59 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 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really eloquent In Defense Of Removals posts around 11:27:24 I wouldn't be surprised if I'd written something good and then forgotten about it 11:27:53 -!- infrashortfoo has joined ##crawl-dev 11:32:07 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:35:20 -!- siepu_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:37:38 -!- Medar has joined ##crawl-dev 11:45:36 -!- Guest43745 is now known as FIQ 11:46:05 -!- FIQ is now known as Guest30174 11:47:34 -!- Guest30174 is now known as FIQ 11:50:03 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:50:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:58:03 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:05:05 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1358-gd0e7041 (34) 12:06:06 -!- sanka has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:06:08 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:08:03 -!- wheals__ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:08:09 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:08:44 -!- wheals has 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13:57:51 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:57:57 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:58:28 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:05:05 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 14:06:23 -!- chance672 has quit [Quit: Leaving my desktop..... laptop possibly?] 14:07:07 -!- Beyonce75 is now known as djanatyn 14:07:13 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 14:07:14 -!- Leszczynek has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 14:13:15 -!- LordSloth has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:14:47 -!- KarvaRausku has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:15:16 -!- oxeimon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:19:44 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 14:19:53 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:22:23 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:32:25 !learn add reddit Axe + Shield is the most powerful combo in the game by far, provided you can find a broad axe of speed and 30 or so slaying. Cleaving basically means you do 2-8 times the dpt of any other weapon. If you can't find Arga and the Shield of the Gong then it's better to stick with an EA, but no other weapon even comes close to competing with axes for a melee build. 14:32:25 SHROANNG! 14:32:26 reddit[2/2]: Axe + Shield is the most powerful combo in the game by far, provided you can find a broad axe of speed and 30 or so slaying. Cleaving basically means you do 2-8 times the dpt of any other weapon. If you can't find Arga and the Shield of the Gong then it's better to stick with an EA, but no other weapon even comes close to competing with axes for a melee build. 14:33:38 sadly this post was deleted almost a year ago, so i can't link it to you all, but it is incredible advice, worthy of being put on the wiki 14:37:33 !learn del reddit[1 14:37:33 Deleted reddit[1/2]: see {webtiles} 14:40:53 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:41:07 -!- glaas has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 14:41:39 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:49:42 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:50:09 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:57:53 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:30 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:08:42 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:25:12 -!- cang has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:31:00 -!- roadmap has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:33:14 -!- roadmap has joined ##crawl-dev 15:36:37 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 15:36:52 -!- sorlin has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:43:58 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:05:07 -!- ursan has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:05:42 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 16:07:26 -!- djanatyn is now known as i_hate_breasts 16:11:48 -!- i_hate_breasts is now known as djanatyn 16:15:06 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:18:17 -!- fallenxxxsky has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:18:40 -!- oxeimon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:26:49 -!- fallenxxxsky has quit [Client Quit] 16:27:27 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:29:08 !tell PleasingFungus where do you go for demonology references? asking.. uh for a friend, yeah 16:29:08 ebering: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 16:30:40 ebering: PF is a satanist. he just knows this stuff 16:30:42 <|amethyst> ebering: http://www.esotericarchives.com/ looks like it could be interesting 16:31:52 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:32:04 the necrognomicon of n'dic >.> 16:32:43 <|amethyst> n'dic sounds like a Lovecraftian boy band 16:33:43 !learn q the_wizard's_castle 16:33:44 THE WIZARD'S CASTLE[1/5]: MANY CYCLES AGO, IN THE KINGDOM OF N'DIC, THE GNOMIC WIZARD ZOT FORGED HIS GREAT *ORB OF POWER*. HE SOON VANISHED, LEAVING BEHIND HIS VAST SUBTERRANEAN CASTLE FILLED WITH ESURIENT MONSTERS, FABULOUS TREASURES, AND THE INCREDIBLE *ORB OF ZOT*. 16:33:53 geekosaur: ?? is working now 16:34:00 <|amethyst> ???? 16:34:00 oh, good 16:34:09 <|amethyst> ??:beh: 16:34:10 :beh:[1/25]: Sequell: help ::: help[1/5]: !help (I need somebody) !help (not just anybody) Try https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/docs/listgame.md or https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/docs/learndb.md 16:34:14 yay 16:34:16 <|amethyst> Sequell: help 16:34:16 |amethyst: help[1/5]: !help (I need somebody) !help (not just anybody) Try https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/docs/listgame.md or https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/docs/learndb.md 16:34:47 <|amethyst> amalloy: hm, how'd it get fixed? 16:34:51 beats me 16:35:08 perhaps a stealth update by snark 16:35:22 could have been a bogus beh 16:35:30 <|amethyst> very stealth, so no commit 16:35:40 <|amethyst> geekosaur: possibly, but even :beh:[1] wasn't working 16:35:49 <|amethyst> !learn q :beh:[1] 16:35:49 :beh:[1/25]: $bot: help ::: $(ldb help) 16:35:57 <|amethyst> and that one hasn't changed 16:35:58 -!- Goon_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:36:10 <|amethyst> maybe a bad ACL? 16:36:46 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:37:07 <|amethyst> hm 16:37:22 <|amethyst> !learn add :beh:[1] : help ::: $(ldb help) 16:37:24 :beh:[1/26]: : help ::: $(ldb help) 16:37:29 <|amethyst> Sequell: help 16:37:30 |amethyst: help[1/5]: !help (I need somebody) !help (not just anybody) Try https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/docs/listgame.md or https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/docs/learndb.md 16:37:31 <|amethyst> : help 16:37:32 help[1/5]: !help (I need somebody) !help (not just anybody) Try https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/docs/listgame.md or https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/docs/learndb.md 16:37:33 <|amethyst> hm 16:37:40 <|amethyst> !learn rm :beh:[1] 16:37:40 Deleted :beh:[1/26]: : help ::: $(ldb help) 16:37:56 <|amethyst> I was thinking possibly if $bot were empty it could break that rule, but apparently not 16:38:28 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:38:41 !messages 16:38:42 (1/1) gammafunk said (1d 18h 20m 7s ago): I think if everything was a simulation it might be better designed rather than just a weird chamber of horrors 16:39:13 <|amethyst> �learn add :beh:[1] :beh: ::: 16:39:13 Okay, not adding :beh:[1] => :beh: ::: 16:40:55 gerbil (L3 OgHu) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 16 / 16 (D:2) 16:41:04 <|amethyst> !crashlog 16:41:06 13037. gerbil, XL3 OgHu, T:1417 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/gerbil/crash-gerbil-20160219-214054.txt 16:41:09 <|amethyst> what's 16 I wonder 16:41:27 <|amethyst> something tiles 16:46:33 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 16:49:18 <|amethyst> item.base_type was 16 16:50:08 <|amethyst> for an item_info in map_knowledge 16:50:28 <|amethyst> I do see this: 16:50:29 <|amethyst> ch_force_autopickup failed: [string "/dgldir/rcfiles/crawl-git/gerbil.rc"]:11: attempt to call field 'rotting' (a nil value) 16:51:18 <|amethyst> I don't think that would be related, but maybe something else in the rc is corrupting an item_info that is being passed to lua? 16:52:03 -!- molotove has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:55:16 <|amethyst> also, I really need to work on getting gdb going inside the chroot on CAO 16:55:47 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:59:56 <|amethyst> BTW, fun factoid 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:52 <|amethyst> under the kind of usage it's getting at this moment, with ~35 players and no compilation jobs going 17:01:36 <|amethyst> CSZO uses about 60 kiB of disk space a second 17:02:10 <|amethyst> however, lots of that gets freed up periodically as ttyrecs are compressed 17:04:33 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:04:51 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 17:05:07 -!- WebFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:05:12 <|amethyst> (just freed up 25 GB again by stripping old trunk binaries and cleaning out the build directory) 17:08:26 ebering: I was leaning heavily on the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesser_Key_of_Solomon - i'm not an expert. I know someone who has very strong opinions on all sorts of demon-related mythology, though, so if you have specific questions I can pass those along 17:14:28 WebFungus: well I was wandering around germany today (as you do) and I played a lot of Sil on the flight and walked through a pentacle in the cobblestones 17:14:50 nice!!! 17:15:05 and it occured to me a summoning focussed roguelike with focused mythology like Sil could be a lot of fun and I'd like to write it one day 17:15:10 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:15:14 or maybe just write the mythology and content myself there 17:15:17 have you encountered the roguelike called Demon 17:15:21 no 17:15:46 it's a neat little game under active dev 17:15:48 worth checking out maybe 17:15:55 though it's definitely not got a focused mythology 17:16:55 ew tiles 17:17:38 lmao 17:18:01 I just want a swarm of coloured numerals 17:18:33 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:20:08 <|amethyst> ebering: IMO go very focused 17:20:14 <|amethyst> ebering: Dante's Inferno for example 17:20:35 <|amethyst> though that one specifically has probably been done to death 17:21:19 |amethyst: but Dante used guile and verse and Virgil's assistance to gain passage 17:21:38 I was thinking more Orpheus and Eurydecie 17:21:42 <|amethyst> yeah, I guess it doesn't fit "summoning" 17:21:51 since Orpheus could charm anything with song 17:21:54 <|amethyst> and Faust only really has the one demon 17:21:56 presumably this includes the demons 17:22:00 <|amethyst> it's more about humans 17:23:02 <|amethyst> oh, re Dante I guess this exists: http://hellband.net/whatis.html 17:23:13 or maybe not overtly Orpheus and Eurydecie but 17:23:13 -!- CcS has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:23:22 in that vein. go to rescure your beloved from death itself 17:23:53 Hellband seems already off of Dante 17:24:13 since uh, Dante didn't kill Lucifer, just escaped between his legs to emerge in purgatory 17:24:24 in the first known description of the 3-sphere 17:24:24 <|amethyst> yeah, "slay Lillith and her consort Lucifer" 17:25:12 <|amethyst> oh, I was thinking Hell was nested horocycles on the hyperbolic plane 17:25:24 <|amethyst> I guess that's in R'lyeh though, not Hell 17:25:31 that's R'lyeh yeah 17:25:39 Dante's cosmology is a 3 sphere 17:25:48 get this: horocycle, more like... horrorcycle...!? 17:27:32 -!- LordSloth has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:32:04 -!- Goon_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:32:08 WebFungus: so if you could ask your opinionated friend about an introductory bibliography I would be much obliged 17:33:01 <|amethyst> https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/46mid7/thelemite_programmers_here_is_a_github_repo_with/ 17:33:18 uh 17:33:29 -!- jbenedetto has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:33:30 wow, quite new, too 17:33:56 "17": "The Furnace [[The Cup or Holy Graal]] The Discipline (Preliminary) [[Phœnix", 17:34:04 not sure about the quality of the normalization, here 17:34:11 <|amethyst> heh 17:34:21 -!- mamgar has quit [Client Quit] 17:34:28 lotta stuff split across multiple lines 17:34:36 also 17:34:36 "13": "Menstrual Blood, Camphor, Aloes, all Sweet Virginal Odours", 17:35:05 <|amethyst> I don't remember that being mentioned in "Mr Crowley" 17:35:13 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:35:29 :) 17:38:35 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 17:41:20 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:42:15 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:44:33 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 17:44:49 -!- WebFungus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:46:23 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 17:48:03 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:51:34 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:58:06 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:58:21 -!- molotove1 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:58:59 -!- oxeimon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:00:08 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01:12 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-a0-1358-gd0e7041 (34) 18:08:50 -!- Torax_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:13:34 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:19:32 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:20:07 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:23:09 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:26:58 -!- ebering has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:27:12 -!- oxeimon1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:27:47 -!- ebering has joined ##crawl-dev 18:33:25 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:34:24 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:35:43 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:43:30 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:47:19 -!- roadmap has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:51:13 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:58:28 -!- fallenxxxsky has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:07 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:00:09 -!- scummos| has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:56 -!- zol has quit [Disconnected by services] 19:02:58 -!- zol has quit [Disconnected by services] 19:05:05 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:05:07 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:07:29 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:18:27 -!- Floodkiller has joined ##crawl-dev 19:19:30 -!- fallenxxxsky has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:23:41 -!- thrig has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:24:52 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:25:04 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 19:27:04 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:28:52 -!- roadmap has joined ##crawl-dev 19:34:29 -!- HarryHood has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:35:52 -!- sorlin1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:36:04 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:36:27 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-1359-g7f7627b: Add a contributor to CREDITS and .mailmap 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7f7627b367b7 19:40:12