00:00:03 I have two thoughts for new generic piety mechanisms but they're both, uh, generic 00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:06 so that wouldn't really help anything 00:00:12 new piety mechanisms.................. 00:00:19 yessss 00:00:21 ? 00:00:21 well, i figure "novel" is at least novel 00:00:21 do tell........................... 00:00:24 er, interesting 00:00:49 I talked about (1) before - piety for discovering magic items (scrolls, potions, jewellery, ego/plus equipment) 00:00:58 oh, i like that 00:01:01 extra piety for artefacts!!! 00:01:04 yeah! 00:01:33 it's sort of a spiky version of explore piety that goes completely haywire in zigs 00:01:36 what about discovering traps?! 00:01:43 but it's thematically neat 00:01:49 yeah i really like the theme 00:01:58 I was considering it for an earlier version of H 00:02:04 the other thing I'm considering for current H 00:02:28 is xp piety: literally piety for gaining xp 00:02:40 because it's the god of memories, and experience -> memory 00:02:47 -!- molotove has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:02:50 i wonder if that could go with nem. or maybe build a god around it specifically? my first thought is some kind of, like, indiana jones god who wants you to loot things for Fabulous Objects 00:03:03 could go with nem, sure! 00:03:09 I forget how exactly xhe's themed 00:03:28 trickster god, demon ichor, fortune 00:03:42 i think nem was "tarot" at first but it leaned towards "gambling" at some point 00:03:54 haha 00:03:59 philistines! 00:04:14 idea: veh 00:04:18 since, magic? 00:04:34 maybe, maybe 00:04:50 but I feel like veh likes destruction too much 00:04:52 hm 00:05:07 pak? 00:05:13 -!- Menche has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:05:27 hm, pak is already tied to various items, and has a tenuous flavor towards magic 00:05:30 could work. 00:05:34 pak or ash are the ones I can see it working for, out of our current gods - grunt would have to comment on the former 00:05:58 well, exploration fits most with ash already 00:06:26 yeah 00:06:34 and ash has the custom explore mechanic 00:06:38 so I guess only pak 00:06:53 idk how much pak cares about finding stuff vs homebrewing 00:07:34 well, it's important to stay up to date on the field of research 00:08:03 "Pakellas appreciates your finding another sample!" 00:08:27 it could work flavorwise, at least 00:08:37 sure 00:08:44 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:08:45 Grunt! you're here 00:09:01 -!- Erad1cat0r has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:09:07 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest88498 00:09:22 -!- morik has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:09:56 -!- thrig has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:10:37 -!- sid14726 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:10:37 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:10:56 -!- fazisi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:11:21 I am? 00:11:22 news to me 00:11:27 -!- Suga_H has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:11:29 I don't really like the concept of "piety on items" 00:11:30 because 00:11:32 in practice 00:11:41 how is it significantly different from exploration piety 00:12:23 encourages raiding end vaults? 00:14:49 is exploration piety really significantly different from kill piety 00:14:57 they're both just 'progress through the game', really 00:15:32 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:16:22 in the end, aren't all gods the same 00:16:29 we've discovered crawl unitarianism 00:17:07 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:18:26 oh, neat 00:18:32 !source notes.h:58 00:18:32 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/notes.h#l58 00:20:27 ooo! i got it! piety on eating! 00:21:06 wow more mummy hate 00:21:35 an idea i had in my brain a while ago: exploration while hoarding some kind of item 00:22:23 or while hoarding 00:24:14 hats, clearly 00:24:20 gods love hats 00:24:31 my main ideas are artefacts and spellbooks 00:24:37 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:24:43 spellbooks you can at least get an early start with with a caster start 00:24:58 well, wizards can make their free hat pay off! 00:25:17 also i guess tengu and minotaur gladiators 00:25:22 obviously only hats. not helmets 00:25:27 the pope doesn't wear a helmet 00:25:29 obviously, we're not philistines 00:28:42 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:31:09 good intern project: completely rewrite notes.cc/notes.h 00:31:14 it's not super large, shouldn't take too long 00:34:08 write it up as an implementable :) 00:38:24 Hepliaklqanal calls forth the memory of your ancestor, Plog! 00:38:34 right before I take out the name gen integration, too 00:38:35 perfect timing 00:39:20 -!- grimmulfr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:39:27 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 00:40:31 would it be feasible/reasonable for hep to occasionally take the names of ancestors off your high score list if the name isn't your current name and it's not a multiplayer server 00:40:43 or would that break the immersion 00:41:21 the memory of your ancestor, comborobin! 00:42:36 alternatively 00:42:49 the memory of your ancestor, REMOVEMUMMYFROMCRAWL! 00:43:28 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 00:45:29 is hepliaklqanal supposed to be evocative of aztec gods or is that just a happy coincidence? 00:47:01 ask Grunt 00:47:18 nicolae-: that is a good question 00:47:21 like he'll give a meaningful answer XD 00:47:35 -!- PleasingFungus is now known as Gnunt 00:47:38 * Gnunt grunts. 00:47:44 -!- Gnunt is now known as PleasingFungus 00:47:53 needs more tl in it to be aztec. i m o 00:47:58 hepliatlkanal 00:48:05 I have a big list of aztec ancestor names 00:48:07 among others 00:49:10 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 00:49:27 nicolae-: I think it'd be a project, but it's not fundamentally infeasible 00:50:03 imo get someone else to code it 00:50:36 *raises eyebrow, gestures to Grunt* 00:52:11 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:56:11 heh 00:57:51 hm 00:57:52 hmm 00:57:57 hmmm? 00:58:13 something very odd and worrying just happened 00:58:26 I don't *think* just pushed a random H commit into trunk 00:58:53 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1304-g6d2dd1f: Checkwhite 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6d2dd1f24ef9 00:59:21 well either that's not a random H commit or H is considerably less fleshed out than i thought 00:59:52 haha 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:04 the commit failed to apply and I don't know why 01:00:06 when I rebased 01:00:48 oh dear 01:01:34 looks like some of my commits vanished 01:02:00 golly 01:03:07 fixed it, but I don't know why it keeps failing 01:03:20 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1304-g6d2dd1f (34) 01:03:47 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:03:47 worrying 01:04:21 woah a commit! 01:09:19 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 01:11:46 chequers: please make panlord spell frequency vary more 01:11:53 up to and including 100% 01:12:12 i want a haste/firestorm panlord with 100% cast freq 01:12:17 and 16 speed 01:17:39 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 01:17:50 ibut 01:17:54 logicninja already exists 01:18:26 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:19:52 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1304-g6d2dd1f (34) 01:21:40 ontoclasm: what colors should be associated with a god of ancestors, memory and mist 01:21:42 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:22:09 maybe like... pale green or blue? 01:22:32 or maybe deep purple, but we have like 5 purple gods already 01:22:58 hm 01:23:11 I was vaguely thinking grey/blue. green is interesting 01:23:29 what makes you think green? 01:24:27 probably literally just this scene: https://architectaroundtheworld.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/mulan-46.png?w=1200 01:24:37 haha 01:24:56 sort of green-blue there 01:25:01 yeah 01:25:40 -!- Airwolf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:26:47 -!- neongrey has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:26:56 would be funny to make the message color lightgreen 01:27:08 insofar as: that's also what pak's is 01:27:12 hah 01:27:27 we need a god that speaks in dark grey 01:27:34 tempting 01:27:37 chei lightcyan, sif lightblue 01:27:47 -!- sid14726 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:27:50 is anyone darkcyan? 01:28:27 zin, tso, ely, oka, fedhas - for messages 01:28:38 ah 01:28:50 or maybe I'm forgetting which colour's for which thing 01:28:52 they're not commented 01:28:55 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:28:58 (i'm dull and have the god message channel always be purple) 01:29:00 but anyway, they all have cyan in the relevant function 01:29:45 arbitrarily, I'm taking lightcyan there and lightgreen/lightblue in the other one. 01:29:46 done. 01:31:20 I'm kind of hoping to delay releasing this as an experimental until lasty merges U into trunk, since I don't want to have to deal with sprint altar merge conflicts 01:31:31 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:33:07 ontoclasm: as a heads-up, I'm planning on doing terrible placeholder art for at least some things 01:33:12 prepare yourself for a visual feast... 01:33:46 i can't wait 01:34:07 i drew a bunch of sweet bear-people for qud today 01:34:17 hell yeah 01:34:44 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:34:53 I need to get back into qud 01:35:56 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0/20160123151951]] 01:42:26 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:50:40 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:55:04 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1304-g6d2dd1f 01:57:25 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:04:27 -!- nikheizen has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:05:49 qud rules 02:06:14 which i hilariously play in console while i only play crawl in tiles 02:06:22 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:12:23 do monsters with ranged attacks get some sort of bonus to shoot past the player's minions? 02:12:39 or does every summon/raised undead have hilariously high EV? 02:14:21 -!- sid14726 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:18:18 is anyone darkcyan? 02:18:19 oka 02:26:07 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 02:29:09 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:29:23 -!- twb has joined ##crawl-dev 02:29:32 0.18-a0-1275-g81fde13 mentions gretell.rc, but I can't find it 02:29:49 Unless the IRC bots are running *inside* crawl somehow? (boggle) 02:30:08 <|amethyst> http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/gretell.rc 02:30:14 <|amethyst> not sure if that is the latest version 02:30:17 <|amethyst> or who maintains it 02:30:40 Is that a separate repo from the main crawl repo? 02:30:47 <|amethyst> it's not a repo 02:31:00 OK 02:31:01 <|amethyst> it's just an account someone made on one (probably many) of the servers 02:31:16 Ah, gotcha 02:31:20 <|amethyst> because you can include otherusername.rc on the servers 02:31:37 <|amethyst> err 02:31:41 <|amethyst> include = otherusername.rc 02:31:47 I know what you mean 02:32:00 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 02:32:08 <|amethyst> I *hope* they're generating it using a script 02:32:12 haha 02:32:25 <|amethyst> but I don't know where that script might be 02:32:55 <|amethyst> (presumably it calls 'monster' and converts the colour codes to HTML) 02:33:10 <|amethyst> oh, not HTML, crawl colour codes 02:33:26 <|amethyst> as for 'monster', that's in the main repo now, under util/monster/ 02:33:35 <|amethyst> you can do 'make monster' to build it 02:33:39 interestin 02:34:45 -!- FireSight has quit [] 02:37:55 ? 02:38:19 ProzacElf: hmmm? 02:38:46 <|amethyst> ??hm 02:38:46 |amethyst[2/23]: <|amethyst> hm 02:38:59 <|amethyst> ??hmm 02:39:00 hmm ~ hm ~ |amethyst[2/23]: <|amethyst> hm 02:40:02 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 02:44:04 -!- laularukyrumo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:44:54 heh 02:45:00 what are you trying to do? 02:45:07 out of curiosity 02:45:23 -!- twb has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:47:45 -!- Idolo has quit [] 02:49:33 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:53:44 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1304-g6d2dd1f 02:58:24 -!- sid14726 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:03:27 -!- Harudoku` has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:03:36 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:05:13 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:05:18 -!- Blade-_ is now known as Blade- 03:07:44 -!- oxeimon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:08:03 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 03:11:18 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:11:50 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1304-g6d2dd1f (34) 03:14:47 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:16:46 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 03:19:00 -!- infrashortfoo has joined ##crawl-dev 03:20:37 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:20:42 -!- Blade is now known as Blade- 03:23:55 -!- Blade-_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:25:33 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 03:27:13 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:28:52 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:42:13 Crash when targetting Dazzling Spray 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10279 by milo 03:42:37 -!- edgefigaro has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:46:13 -!- GauHelldragon2 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:48:56 -!- sid14726 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:55:45 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:57:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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(#10260) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e0cd3c75916b 11:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:04:16 -!- LexAckson__ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:07:51 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:11:42 -!- InireHatesMIRC has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:13:45 !tell wheals Reopened $(!bug 7189) 11:13:45 Medar: OK, I'll let wheals know. 11:14:45 this should be easy to fix with the beam changes i made 11:15:30 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 11:17:57 -!- oberstein has quit [Read error: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number] 11:18:03 -!- destroythecore has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:18:11 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 11:19:38 -!- Rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:21:22 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 11:21:55 -!- elvira_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:28:23 I'll push the gourmand patch from https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9374 11:28:33 unless someone has some issues with it 11:28:36 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:30:40 it seems really unnecessary to me 11:30:47 especially with the changes to other amulets 11:31:53 I think it does the same as the current method, but much more cleanly 11:31:55 I guess the version that removes dur_gourmand is a little more reasonable 11:32:28 i mean, there are amulets that you would want to swap gourmand out for to optimize food 11:32:32 like randart amulets of nothing 11:32:43 so i guess 11:33:15 imo it's simpler to the player, and it's definitely simpler code wise 11:33:17 i don't think it's solving an actual problem that exists 11:33:30 but simplicity is nice 11:33:35 so w/e 11:33:48 you would just remove the duration and not add the removal effect? 11:33:58 I did not say that 11:34:02 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 44.0/20160123151951]] 11:34:10 umm 11:34:38 ok well removing the duration is definitely a better version of the amulet 11:34:50 I mean it's not meant to solve a new problem, just solve the same problem as the duration 11:44:44 -!- Rast has joined ##crawl-dev 11:50:30 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:51:00 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 12:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:05:21 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1306-ge0cd3c7 (34) 12:06:03 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:11:40 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:12:13 -!- WebFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:12:24 Medar: anyway, feel free to go ahead and merge the gourmand patch 12:12:51 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:13:19 ok, might not do it today after all, since it didn't apply cleanly, is missing description etc. 12:13:24 thought it would be easy! 12:15:50 owned 12:15:51 rip 12:16:15 while you're here: do *you* know anything about antique no-longer-used names in southeast asian languages? 12:16:41 i would also accept central asian languages 12:16:44 only know about currently used finnish ones 12:16:55 feel free to name things Pekka 12:18:06 i'll keep that in mind 12:18:07 :P 12:24:14 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 12:29:50 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:33:24 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:33:48 -!- oxeimon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:35:44 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:37:10 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:40:29 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:46:55 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 12:50:09 -!- kaiza has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:55:57 -!- physeK has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:18:51 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:21:52 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:25:03 <|amethyst> Medar: I didn't test it, but think that check for herb/player_like_chunks/undead in _unequip_jewellery_effect might also need || player_mutation_level(MUT_GOURMAND) > 0 13:26:26 -!- kuniqs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:26:26 <|amethyst> Medar: oh, never mind, I guess player_likes_chunks handles that already 13:26:58 <|amethyst> Medar: (in which case maybe the check in is_useless_item could be simplified?) 13:27:47 ok 13:28:41 is_useless_function 13:28:59 oh, btw 13:29:15 when the new rune screen was being written, did anyone remember that sprint exists? 13:29:41 since it's kind of silly there 13:30:00 I guess everyone was too busy playing ZotDef 13:30:08 -!- vev has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:30:27 -!- jbalthetto has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:31:19 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:33:54 <|amethyst> Medar: hm, I was going to suggest zeroing out the duration in tag_read_you but I'm not sure it matters 13:34:06 <|amethyst> Medar: but we did that for jelly prayer so maybe it makes sense 13:35:48 at some point I'll poke at making the rune screen devolve to its prior form for sprint 13:35:49 <|amethyst> Medar: also, the reference to DUR_GOURMAND in duration-data.h should be moved inside the #if 13:36:08 <|amethyst> Medar: (about 25 lines further down) 13:36:39 <|amethyst> Medar: err, sorry 13:36:39 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:36:47 that was in the patch right? 13:36:48 <|amethyst> Medar: I was looking at the wrong version of the code, duration-data.h is fine 13:36:51 <|amethyst> yeah 13:38:35 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 13:38:52 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 13:42:47 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:45:36 -!- Rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 13:46:20 -!- Rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:48:58 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:50:04 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:50:16 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 13:50:22 !send Medar Pekkalas 13:50:23 Sending Pekkalas to Medar. 13:54:11 ! 13:54:25 but I thought that god was already finnished... 13:55:26 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:57:11 btw i'll probably handle the rune thing 13:58:03 i guess there's no way to know in advance what runes a sprint has 13:58:42 I was thinking about it, but you'd need some way to, like, declare that in dlua 13:59:00 it would be sort of cool if pitsprint said like 'silver rune [silver pit]' or w/e 13:59:05 but more of a stretchgoal 13:59:33 unlocked at one million gold 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01:19 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:04:28 brb playing gozag and abyss-scumming forever 14:05:44 !lm * recent gozag max=gold x=gold 14:05:46 149645. [2015-11-26 15:18:20] [gold=189028] mudo the Farming Talismancer (L27 MuFE of Gozag) reached level 17 of a Ziggurat on turn 581736. (Zig:17) 14:05:59 not even close 14:06:09 !lm * recent gozag max=gold x=gold,dur 14:06:10 149648. [2015-11-26 15:18:20] [gold=189028;dur=1d+9:12:39] mudo the Farming Talismancer (L27 MuFE of Gozag) reached level 17 of a Ziggurat on turn 581736. (Zig:17) 14:06:17 !lg haifisch gozag won 14:06:18 2. Haifisch the Talismancer (L27 DsWn of Gozag), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-11-22 05:24:10, with 12801554 points after 126036 turns and 12:39:31. 14:06:21 hm 14:06:22 !lg haifisch gozag won -2 14:06:23 1/2. Haifisch the Tycoon (L27 NaDK of Gozag), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2014-07-28 06:09:12, with 9141058 points after 198985 turns and 1d+3:34:47. 14:06:25 right 14:06:30 !lg haifisch gozag won -2 x=gold 14:06:31 1/2. [gold=16522] Haifisch the Tycoon (L27 NaDK of Gozag), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2014-07-28 06:09:12, with 9141058 points after 198985 turns and 1d+3:34:47. 14:06:38 I remember that taking entirely too long 14:06:53 specifically going for titles 14:07:21 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 14:09:12 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 14:10:19 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:11:24 !lg * recent gozag won s=gold o=gold 14:11:26 501 games for * (recent gozag won): 81823, 73033, 71027, 64553, 62124, 50200, 50143, 37419, 36232, 32413, 29734, 26804, 25564, 25331, 24641, 23666, 22761, 21711, 20466, 17697, 17612, 17290, 17026, 16801, 16799, 16496, 16418, 16074, 16045, 15796, 15639, 15472, 15035, 15004, 14929, 14911, 14691, 14285, 14072, 13969, 13898, 13892, 13856, 13833, 13353, 13290, 13249, 12699, 12575, 12497, 12232, 12086, ... 14:11:34 that's too much gold. 14:11:48 !lg * recent gozag won min=gold x=gold 14:11:49 501. [gold=5] P0WERM0DE the Invulnerable (L27 FoWn of Gozag), escaped with the Orb and 6 runes on 2015-12-19 22:34:55, with 2896018 points after 134556 turns and 7:44:20. 14:11:56 well people often win with full piety too 14:12:22 and heap loads of consumables, gotta save those for the next game! 14:12:22 heh 14:12:26 i spent all my money with gozag 14:12:33 on my win 14:12:39 i even bribed zot a second time just in case 14:12:53 !lg * gozag won avg=gold 14:12:53 Unknown field: avg 14:13:07 i left enough for one or two emergency potion petitions 14:13:09 !lg * gozag won x=avg(gold) 14:13:10 631 games for * (gozag won): avg(gold)=5482.48 14:13:15 what they don't show for the players with *..... is how they get god wrath because they can't earn piety after leaving the dungeon 14:13:24 lol 14:13:58 nah, the gods are happy. you just murdered several entire subterranean societies 14:14:10 BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! 14:14:10 etc 14:17:46 fun fact: crawl does not technically have a blood god 14:17:55 though my god does talk about blood 14:17:55 hm 14:18:03 that gives me an idea. 14:18:30 !blame3 ProzacElf 14:18:30 ProoooozaaaaacEEEEElf 14:18:40 hahaha 14:21:40 does jiyva still say slime for the slime god? 14:22:41 jiyva and dissolution both 14:22:42 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:23:13 nice 14:23:37 fr: bring back occasional early J altars 14:24:16 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 14:24:58 as far as i remember the logic was that J was a noob trap. and yet there are still early chei altars =P 14:25:49 The Chei Is Bad Meme 14:26:09 slime temple lives 14:26:25 barely. i've seen it like 5 or 6 times in over 3000 games 14:26:29 sure 14:26:34 !lg * temple map~~pf_ 14:26:35 62. mizuno the Skirmisher (L5 MiFi), slain by an ogre (a +0 giant club) in the Temple (pf_slimified_temple) on 2016-01-23 12:49:45, with 248 points after 2057 turns and 0:05:39. 14:26:39 lol 14:26:44 hah 14:26:46 !lg * temple recent / map~~pf_ 14:26:47 42/1032 games for * (temple recent): N=42/1032 (4.07%) 14:26:58 of course, it's more lethal than your average temple 14:27:06 Jiyva isn't that bad for early chars IMO 14:27:08 !lg * temple map~~pf_ s=kaux 14:27:09 62 games for * (temple map~~pf_): 56x, 2x a +0 giant club, a +0 whip, a +0 broad axe, the capriciousness of Xom, a potion of poison 14:27:11 but elliptic disagrees, IIRC 14:27:13 !lg * temple map~~pf_ s=ktyp 14:27:14 62 games for * (temple map~~pf_): 35x acid, 12x quitting, 10x mon, 4x pois, wild magic 14:27:22 lol 14:27:24 Jiyva would be a fine early pick for a Fe or the like 14:27:28 12 people quit 14:27:32 yeah, I remember that being mostly a push from the elliptic 14:27:32 or any --tm 14:27:40 !lg * temple recent s=ktyp 14:27:41 1032 games for * (temple recent): 450x mon, 416x quitting, 59x beam, 49x pois, 31x acid, 11x starvation, 4x cloud, 3x lava, 2x water, 2x wild magic, targeting, weakness, something, clumsiness, self aimed 14:27:44 -!- oxeimon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:27:49 wow 14:27:56 lotta folks not finding the gods they're after 14:28:00 "wah, my god isn't here, i'm quitting" 14:28:03 haha 14:28:09 are you shocked 14:28:15 starving in temple is impressive too though 14:28:18 !lg * wn s=name 14:28:21 306694 games for * (wn): 57398x Sebi, 7095x petzl, 6833x syban, 6348x firemonkey, 6217x Xiberia, 4919x pigah, 4405x Maurice, 4365x Fruden, 4241x Naibos, 4238x Arved, 4222x Nikinyo, 3946x dscm, 3471x yottam, 3289x Yakesh, 3273x amw, 3142x Elynae, 3096x G7x, 2401x Corin, 2241x Sanka, 2150x Herrn, 1842x Niddhogr, 1832x heteroy, 1797x Svalbardcaretaker, 1791x vuolankoinen, 1769x Gilihad, 1642x Red7x, ... 14:28:28 sebi... 14:28:29 lol 14:28:35 !lm sebi 14:28:35 2775. [2016-02-08 17:09:43] Sebi the Vexing (L3 DEAM of Dithmenos) became a worshipper of Dithmenos on turn 1110. (D:3) 14:28:39 ! 14:28:41 !lm sebi wn 14:28:42 487. [2016-02-05 21:09:35] Sebi the Magician (L1 DEWn) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 14:28:46 huh 14:28:51 weird' 14:28:56 !lg sebi wn boring 14:28:57 57051. Sebi the Charmwright (L1 DEWn), got out of the dungeon alive on 2015-04-26 19:06:59, with 0 points after 5 turns and 0:00:13. 14:29:18 anyway, i wasn't saying that chei is bad per se, but he unarguably makes your life harder before he makes it easier 14:29:18 after fifty seven thousand wanderer quits, he had enough... 14:29:19 inspiring 14:29:32 isn't that true regardless of when you pick him up? 14:29:45 i suppose so 14:29:52 !hs sebi 14:29:53 106030. Sebi the Sorcerer (L22 DEWn of Sif Muna), shot by a deep elf master archer (arrow of frost) on Elf:5 (elf_hall_gauntlet_narrow) on 2011-01-25 21:36:21, with 345859 points after 132579 turns and 1d+14:02:00. 14:30:00 rip 14:30:00 rip 14:30:04 lmao 14:30:10 lol 14:30:12 of course, zermako was better 14:30:15 i miss that guy 14:30:18 heh 14:30:22 zermako was great 14:30:22 he probably got bad starting package 14:30:32 !hs sebi -log 14:30:33 106030. Sebi, XL22 DEWn, T:132579: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/Sebi/morgue-Sebi-20110125-213621.txt 14:30:51 elf buckler... 14:30:54 We should add a unique, Zermako the Great 14:30:56 level 5 of elf... 14:31:25 Spawns in 1/10,000 games, comes with a permafrenzied worm pet that kills it 14:31:48 looks like he started with hexbook 14:32:20 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:32:34 that'd be an awesome unique 14:33:14 I had some vague thought about a frenzying unique a while back 14:33:19 would have to go through my notes 14:34:51 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:37:27 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:43:31 -!- johlstei_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:49:38 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:55:55 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:03:33 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 15:04:03 -!- Nyvrem has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:05:56 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:11:39 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:36 -!- tealeaves has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:23:04 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:23:46 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 15:36:31 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 15:36:36 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:37:56 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:42:08 -!- Gorgo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:44:14 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 15:44:56 -!- vev has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:49:19 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 15:52:30 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 15:56:05 -!- Blade- has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:05:27 03amalloy02 07* 0.18-a0-1307-gc94ee51: An herbivore, not a herbivore: the H is silent 10(24 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c94ee51b0a9f 16:06:08 -!- asfafsasf has quit [Client Quit] 16:06:50 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:07:45 finally 16:07:48 the fixes that crawl needs 16:08:30 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 16:10:59 WebFungus: proper language despite having <70% illiterate players -- that is style! 16:11:17 oh, was literacy part of the survey? 16:11:45 yes, it is filed under "tiles" there 16:12:01 erm, >70%, stupid German keyboard :) 16:13:36 hm, perhaps it's someone else who's truly illiterate...? 16:17:11 <|amethyst> !send WebFungus innumeracy 16:17:12 Sending innumeracy to WebFungus. 16:17:28 oh, like you haven't done that a bazillion times before 16:17:44 <|amethyst> doh?? 16:17:44 <|amethyst> doh 16:17:48 <|amethyst> oops?? 16:17:48 oops 16:18:06 -!- ldf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:18:16 <|amethyst> no fair, I bet I've said "oops" here a lot more than you have :) 16:22:29 !lg miyamura xl>10 -ttyrec 16:22:32 107. Miyamura, XL27 DsIE, T:97426: http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/ttyrec/Miyamura/ 2016-02-09.15:41:19.ttyrec.bz2 2016-02-09.16:48:23.ttyrec.bz2 2016-02-09.22:21:12.ttyrec.bz2 2016-02-10.05:30:40.ttyrec.bz2 2016-02-10.18:40:01.ttyrec.bz2 2016-02-11.19:30:52.ttyrec.bz2 2016-02-11.23:34:07.ttyrec.bz2 2016-02-12.04:30:34.ttyrec.bz2 2016-02-12.16:27:29.ttyrec 2016-02-12.17:44:34.ttyrec 2016-02-12.19:30... 16:23:58 |amethyst: you can't have both oops AND doh. 16:24:00 it wouldn't be fair. 16:24:30 <|amethyst> ??epic bugs[CSZO] 16:24:33 epic_bugs[6/27]: Dash275 writes: There's a rather large security problem with the CSZO server. You don't actually need to enter a password to access an account. 16:24:57 <|amethyst> I suppose I have enough epic bugs entries to make up for it 16:25:03 security theater comes to cyberspace 16:25:38 <|amethyst> I guess I'll let you amateur mistake-makers take what credit you can get in the presence of true professionals 16:25:50 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:27:07 ??epic_bugs[holy 16:27:09 epic_bugs[21/27]: shit I think there's no way to actually fix this bug wheals accidentally converted all ego weapons into holy wrath weapons 16:27:14 that was a good one 16:28:12 players got free holy wrath and all they did was complain 16:28:44 you know players will find a reason to complain about anything >.> 16:28:44 so typical! 16:29:19 !lg miyamura xl>10 16:29:20 No idea what moved this player over water. There's nothing in the log or in the ttyrec. Help please? 16:29:20 107. Miyamura the Meteorologist (L27 DsIE of Cheibriados), drowned in Pandemonium (lom_lobon_grunt) on 2016-02-12 21:01:42, with 1140631 points after 97426 turns and 8:40:15. 16:29:46 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:29:49 tornado 16:29:57 He had his own up. 16:30:05 Doesn't that gice immunity? 16:30:14 until it runs out at least 16:30:23 It was up. 16:30:28 and lom didn't cast tornado in log 16:30:40 !log miyamura 16:30:41 322. Miyamura, XL27 DsIE, T:97426: http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/Miyamura/morgue-Miyamura-20160212-210142.txt 16:31:30 !tv miyamura 16:31:31 322. Miyamura, XL27 DsIE, T:97426 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 16:31:51 i don 16:31:56 i don't fix hugeterm bugs 16:32:51 but this isn't hugeterm 16:33:04 !lg miyamura x=tiles 16:33:05 322. [tiles=true] Miyamura the Meteorologist (L27 DsIE of Cheibriados), drowned in Pandemonium (lom_lobon_grunt) on 2016-02-12 21:01:42, with 1140631 points after 97426 turns and 8:40:15. 16:33:13 it's messed up somehow 16:33:32 It played normally in browser for me. 16:33:44 for me too 16:34:19 !tv miyamura 16:34:20 322. Miyamura, XL27 DsIE, T:97426 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 16:36:25 !lg miyamura -tv:x.5 16:36:26 322. Miyamura, XL27 DsIE, T:97426 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 16:36:37 <|amethyst> wonder if that's related to the bug where mara drowned? 16:37:00 great entrance 16:37:58 looks like he hit 5 16:38:04 being tossed through a wall is odd 16:38:07 maybe he stepped on a teleport trap? 16:38:07 but drowning aint 16:38:35 possible 16:38:36 you'd need to view the very end in slow-mo, maybe 16:38:38 <|amethyst> !lg miyamura -tv:<0.3:x.3 16:38:39 322. Miyamura, XL27 DsIE, T:97426 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 16:38:44 He said that he hit "end transformation" to quaff flight. Thought he had one more turn. 16:38:45 but no message in log 16:39:42 <|amethyst> the tornado expired the same turn he ended the transformation 16:39:52 Yeah, he should've blinked. 16:40:03 But the interesting part is how he got there. 16:40:16 <|amethyst> !lg miyamura -tv:<0.3:x.3 16:40:17 322. Miyamura, XL27 DsIE, T:97426 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 16:40:29 fun fact: end transformation takes 1.5 turns 16:40:33 slightly before? looked to me like his tornado ended and he got moved in the turn before he wen through the wall 16:40:50 it doesn't make sense that he moved away from lom lobon anyway though 16:41:16 !blame2 Grunt 16:41:16 GGGrrruuunnnttt 16:41:22 hm 16:41:26 should've used blame3 16:41:26 I watched this turn by turn in jettyplay, there's nothing. No idea what happened. 16:41:51 <|amethyst> hm, I didn't see "Tele" status at any point (and no message), or I would suspect the hellwing 16:42:16 Nope. And IIRC tele doesn't put you over water anyway. 16:42:37 and 16:42:41 hellwings don't have tele other anymore 16:42:59 it's a groundhog day miracle 16:43:24 <|amethyst> oh 16:43:51 Now we stop giving lame excuses for player deaths? That's progress! 16:43:56 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:44:14 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:44:40 <|amethyst> !lg miyamura -tv:<0.25:x.1 16:44:41 322. Miyamura, XL27 DsIE, T:97426 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 16:49:44 Could it be something stepping into a zot trap? But then again it should be noted in the log and shouldn't place over water. 16:50:22 honestly 16:50:27 my guess is just that it's a lom tornado bug 16:50:31 like every lom drowning death 16:51:27 usually lom drowns you without a bug 16:51:46 but here he did it without tornado 16:54:42 today I was subjected to sharknado 16:54:48 it gave me some ideas for lom 16:57:35 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:58:44 I think sharks were water enemies a few years ago 16:58:45 ??shark 16:58:46 shark[1/1]: Sharks are an ancient life form, and no longer exist. 16:58:55 ??katana 16:58:55 autumn katana[1/1]: (long blades; +3 acc / 14 dam / 1.2 base delay / 0.6 min delay). A +8 vorpal katana {clarity} that didn't get the news about katana removal. 16:59:19 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 16:59:46 yes 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:08 so long ago that no man now living remembers their presence... 17:00:09 but with a spiffy new tile and tornado-granted flight sharknado sharks could be an Interesting Challenge(tm) 17:00:44 man there were a lot of removed water enemies 17:00:48 remember giant goldfish 17:01:58 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:02:02 Jellyfish, thorn lotus... Those were actually pretty fun. 17:02:20 ??sharkatana 17:02:21 I don't have a page labeled sharkatana in my learndb. 17:02:39 Katana of shark jihad. 17:03:31 <|amethyst> I'm still far from happy about the inclusion of "Shuggoths" -- I just do 17:03:31 <|amethyst> not think it fits into Crawl ... {dlb} 17:04:32 huh 17:04:37 shoggoths? 17:04:45 <|amethyst> I was hoping to look for aquatic monsters in 'initial revision' 17:05:06 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:05:07 <|amethyst> this is complicated by the fact that habitats weren't in mon-data then and I'm not sure where they were 17:05:51 the removal of thorn lotii was a grave disservice to crawl. 17:05:57 agreed 17:06:06 fr: edible lotii 17:06:31 !ambrosia -> 17:06:34 do they give you the Hallucinate status 17:07:08 <|amethyst> ah, it was just a switch in monster_habitat 17:08:01 <|amethyst> initial revision had: big fish, giant goldfish, electrical eel [sic], jellyfish, swamp worm, and water elemental 17:08:07 sounds like someone decided to switch it up ha ha ha ha ha ha 17:08:10 kill me 17:08:18 <|amethyst> for lava habitat: lava worm, lava fish, lava snake, salamander 17:08:21 man, remember goldfish? those were the days. 17:08:35 <|amethyst> the latter says: 17:08:36 what's left of water only monsters anyways? eels, kraken, and wellsprings are all that spring to mind 17:08:41 <|amethyst> // mv: was another lava thing 17:09:03 Lightli: nice unintentional pun 17:09:08 fr remove eels krakens and wellsprings 17:09:09 <|amethyst> Lightli: those are the only ones 17:09:13 and i think that's it, yeah, unless you count amphibs 17:09:16 >.> 17:09:29 why on earth would you remove wellsprings? 17:09:52 <|amethyst> FR: Elemental Illautumns 17:09:55 ontoclasm: oh random thing, in case you weren't aware, krya's and vines don't have special fancy tiles 17:10:00 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 17:10:19 clearly kraken should be made amphibious 17:10:30 Medar: yeah, i know 17:10:36 i've just been lazy about it 17:10:43 it's all good 17:10:52 not like I ever find them :P 17:11:04 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:11:12 -!- Harudoku is now known as Harudoku` 17:11:15 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:12:34 -!- nikheizen has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:15:48 <|amethyst> dpeg: re one aspect of luring, what do you think about having all monsters in LOS follow you across the stairs? Implementation-wise it would be simple for it to happen instantaneously, but probably in practice there would need to be a delay based on the monster's distance from the stair 17:16:07 this was tried 17:16:12 in a crawl variant 17:16:12 <|amethyst> oh? 17:16:14 <|amethyst> ah 17:16:17 I can't remember which one 17:16:27 it makes the game much easier, anyway 17:16:34 <|amethyst> it does? 17:16:39 <|amethyst> oh 17:16:46 <|amethyst> since you can "stairdance" an entire pack 17:16:50 because rather than having a dangerous bottom-of-the-stairs, you end up with a conga line at the top 17:16:51 yeah 17:17:20 apparently it was implemented at minmay's suggestion, which he later regretted - he was the one who told me about it 17:17:46 <|amethyst> could guarantee that all stairs are in a 3x3 block of floor :) 17:17:51 <|amethyst> or bigger 17:18:52 <|amethyst> stairs in corridors are annoying for other reasons anyway 17:19:16 doesn't matter too much 17:19:39 <|amethyst> though I guess less so now that all large sources of permallies come with recall 17:22:17 Are there even "large sources of permallies" beyond Beogh and Yred? 17:22:53 <|amethyst> there are the two 17:23:01 -!- mamgar has quit [Client Quit] 17:23:21 you can also scum pan for mercenaries. 17:23:23 <|amethyst> s/there/those/ 17:23:28 <|amethyst> "now" because Beogh used to now have recall, and there was twisted resurrection 17:24:00 <|amethyst> I suppose if you scum enough that could be "large" :) 17:24:12 <|amethyst> s/now have/not have/ 17:24:37 TSO prolongation could theoretically make your favourite quokka semi-permanent! 17:25:00 <|amethyst> back when they could take stairs 17:25:08 -!- GauHelldragon2 is now known as GauHelldragon 17:26:26 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:31:30 -!- read has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:31:35 I wish I had a quokka 17:31:54 did I ever remove TSO blessing followers' weapons/armour? there's no good reason for him to do that. 17:33:18 03amalloy02 07* 0.18-a0-1308-g45b86c9: Don't switch from singular to plural mid-sentence 10(11 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/45b86c948834 17:34:11 -!- molotove has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:34:34 -!- parabolic has joined ##crawl-dev 17:34:39 just met my first doom hound. it was an experience 17:35:02 kinda cool to have cblink and even a staircase not be actual escapes 17:35:50 !doom amalloy 17:35:50 WebFungus unleashes a terrible howl, and it begins to echo in amalloy's mind! The WebFungus bites amalloy!!! x5 17:36:00 technically, this implementation of !doom is outdated... 17:36:52 -!- molotove1 has quit [Client Quit] 17:37:03 This is why we can't have nice things!!! 17:37:39 <|amethyst> amalloy: the 'h' isn't universally silent, but I think the change is fine 17:37:46 <|amethyst> amalloy: it is silent in my ideolect 17:38:04 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:38:19 someone needs to travel to australia immediately. 17:38:48 Crikey! Yer an orbiver! 17:39:10 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 17:39:12 -!- parabolic has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:41:00 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 17:42:13 <|amethyst> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hddi8gyrxFM#t=1m33 she aspirates it 17:42:31 <|amethyst> but no preceded by the indefinite article 17:42:32 -!- parabolic has joined ##crawl-dev 17:42:55 <|amethyst> s/no prec/not prec/ 17:46:10 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:47:14 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 17:48:48 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:49:32 -!- parabolic has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:50:55 -!- parabolic has joined ##crawl-dev 17:54:35 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:55:41 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 17:56:45 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:57:58 -!- parabolic has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:03 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:01:03 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:02:26 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:02:29 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-a0-1308-g45b86c9 (34) 18:03:07 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:03:13 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 18:05:04 why exactly is twisted resurrection not allowed to be cast by friendlies? 18:05:09 too op? 18:05:18 due to permanent xxx 18:06:48 -!- LexAckson__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:07:08 why does twisted resurrection still exist when all the other animate dead stuff is banned from being used by monsters 18:07:12 -!- ahri is now known as Guest77724 18:07:13 -!- hhkb has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:07:22 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:07:26 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: No route to host] 18:08:23 dunno 18:08:37 also I think there is some monster who still casts animate dead 18:08:45 but it was removed from basically everyone else 18:09:24 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 18:09:26 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:09:58 -!- parabolic has joined ##crawl-dev 18:10:11 someone mentions removal, mpa appeaars >.> 18:10:28 lol 18:11:40 -!- CcS has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:11:55 <|amethyst> yeah, monster TR is fairly anachronistic at this point, but it's fairly limited in distribution and there are a few vaults built around it 18:12:20 <|amethyst> of course those vaults could be removed or changed like the animate dead vaults 18:12:38 ??deep elf high priest 18:12:38 deep elf high priest[1/1]: drag0n the Anemomancer (L19 HEWz), worshipper of Nemelex Xobeh, killed by an exploding deep elf high priest on Vaults:2 (nicolae_vaults_triangles), with 229338 points after 78846 turns and 7:47:08. 18:12:40 @??deep elf high priest 18:12:41 deep elf high priest (09e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 11 | HP: 38-59 | AC/EV: 4/12 | Dam: 14 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest, evil, unholy, see invisible | Res: 06magic(80) | Vul: 08holy, 11silver | XP: 1041 | Sp: a.brilliance [11!AM], sum.demon [11!AM], hellfire burst (3d15) [11!AM], malign offering (2d17) [11!AM], smiting (7-17) [11!AM], twisted resurrection [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int:.. 18:13:04 <|amethyst> no non-vault monsters have animate dead, animate skeleton, or simulacrum 18:13:22 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:13:44 <|amethyst> nor any vault monsters that I can see 18:14:33 <|amethyst> so Twisted Resurrection is the last monster spell that destroys items 18:14:53 "items" 18:14:57 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:15:01 <|amethyst> (speaking carefully there, since monsters drinking potions/reading scrolls does destroy them 18:15:04 <|amethyst> ) 18:15:20 <|amethyst> hey, it's in the env.item array, it counts :) 18:15:24 I've never seen it happen, ever 18:15:27 outside 0.14 18:16:20 <|amethyst> I don't think I've been to elf since then 18:16:25 <|amethyst> !lm . br.end=elf 18:16:27 5. [2013-11-04 17:25:23] neil the Bludgeoner (L18 GrWn of Okawaru) reached level 3 of the Elven Halls on turn 44158. (Elf:3) 18:16:32 <|amethyst> !lm . br.end=elf x=vlong,cv 18:16:34 5. [2013-11-04 17:25:23] [vlong=;cv=0.14-a] neil the Bludgeoner (L18 GrWn of Okawaru) reached level 3 of the Elven Halls on turn 44158. (Elf:3) 18:16:36 (I mean potion/scroll monster usage) 18:16:52 <|amethyst> I see monsters drink berserk rage and invis fairly often 18:17:08 hm... never seen it 18:17:09 %git 94850abc 18:17:09 07MarvinPA02 * 0.17-a0-399-g94850ab: Rework TSO ally blessings 10(1 year ago, 4 files, 50+ 145-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/94850abc083e 18:17:11 <|amethyst> and hw 18:17:11 WebFungus: ^ 18:17:23 hw possibly, it's easy to miss 18:17:25 and curing 18:17:38 <|amethyst> berserk rage is easy to miss if the monster was red to begin with :) 18:17:41 seen them zap wands including hw and tele 18:17:46 but not using scrolls/pots 18:18:11 <|amethyst> it's somewhat less common since they lost the ability to pick up items you've seen 18:18:18 potions they use fairly often, but only (a) if they have them (b) not all types of potions 18:18:19 exactly 18:18:25 MarvinPA: excellent! 18:18:27 which is what I said with 0.14 :p 18:18:30 you're way ahead of me, as always. 18:18:46 I saw a monster unique (jessica iirc) quaff HW within like 3 playthroughs 18:18:48 of .14 18:18:52 when testing 18:18:52 <|amethyst> FIQ: maybe your characters are too stealthy :) 18:19:00 <|amethyst> FIQ: so they're not waking up to pick up the items 18:19:16 ah heh 18:19:51 "Additionally, remove the weapon 18:19:52 and armour enchantment blessings, since TSO allies are no longer likely to stay 18:19:52 around for huge periods of time (as they can't follow across floors any more)." 18:19:58 noooooooooo D: 18:20:08 er the latter part that is 18:20:19 <|amethyst> the latter part wasn't specific to TSO 18:20:24 -!- parabolic has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:20:24 <|amethyst> that was the general summon change 18:20:39 mhm... 18:20:48 also why was that 0.17 change made anyway 18:20:59 <|amethyst> I wouldn't mind seeing a god that can turn your summons (really) permanent 18:21:02 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 18:21:03 with removal of the weighting of blessings on kills 18:21:10 <|amethyst> very limited number of course 18:21:48 especially when considering blessed healing 18:22:07 why should things in combat not get more likely to be healed 18:22:16 when they're the ones who probably needs it the most 18:22:29 we generally try to avoid giving any bonuses or penalties for "last-hitting". 18:22:45 I can see the general point there 18:22:47 since it's not something that works well in crawl - not something that the player has good enough control over to be fun. 18:22:53 Allthough for healing in particular I'd disagree 18:23:10 Unless you make it something like, if a blessed healing is about to happen, target a damaged creature 18:23:27 who needs it the most 18:23:45 <|amethyst> I would (not necessarily for TSO) maybe keep track of how much damage (maybe weighted by danger of the enemy or whatever) the summon has done 18:24:00 <|amethyst> and give it on hit based on that, rather than on kill 18:24:15 This is referring to both TSO and beogh btw, especially beogh since those are permanent 18:24:36 since if an angel dies, meh, just create a new one 18:24:53 if needed 18:25:38 <|amethyst> maybe instead of picking an ally and blessing them somehow 18:26:07 I wonder if TSO blessing were targeted to angels/etc specifically 18:26:12 I mean, it makes sense but 18:26:16 <|amethyst> pick the blessing first, then (at least for healing) pick an ally weighted by how much they need it 18:26:27 iirc nothing in the tso description pointed at it being limited to holies 18:26:38 compare with beogh which states "might bless your orcs ..." 18:26:59 |amethyst, yeah that seems like it'd work better 18:27:13 for healing that is 18:27:23 maybe not for enchantment (beogh) 18:27:38 actually I guess it doesn't matter there 18:28:43 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:29:03 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 18:29:43 <|amethyst> hm, as far as I can tell, TSO has considered all your allies to be "followers" since 0.8 18:30:12 so.. it *was* general purpose? 18:30:36 interesting, would've been nice to know earlier when it was actually relevant :p 18:30:46 since you could in that case use it to improve merc gear 18:31:30 it's sort of nice that, in principle, tso is a summoner-helping god 18:31:45 a neat emergent synergy 18:31:47 <|amethyst> who hates half the summon spells 18:31:51 w/e! 18:31:51 <|amethyst> well, not half 18:31:52 heh 18:31:57 can't be too picky 18:32:01 <|amethyst> but the first good one 18:32:11 what, summon ice beast? 18:32:14 <|amethyst> imp 18:32:22 please do not underestimate spammals 18:32:28 he hates all the bad summons >.> 18:32:30 also, rip summon scorpions. 18:32:30 ??sumon greater demon 18:32:31 sumon greater demon ~ summon greater demon[1/1]: Summons a 1 or 2, the mightiest classes of demonry. Chance of summoning a hostile demon is 6/power. Even if originally friendly, a 1 summoned by this spell will turn hostile shortly before timing out. Level 7. 18:32:44 ah right, temporary peaceful 18:32:49 s/peaceful/friendly/ 18:33:13 ??sumon dragon 18:33:13 sumon dragon ~ summon dragon[1/2]: Player version replaced by {Dragon's Call} in 0.14. 18:33:19 <|amethyst> ??grand grimoire 18:33:19 grand grimoire[1/1]: Monstrous Menagerie, Summon Greater Demon, Malign Gateway, Summon Horrible Things - In 0.16-, you were required to have 6 spellcasting and 10 summonings to memorize spells out of this book. 18:33:33 <|amethyst> at least it has a TSO-friendly spell now 18:33:42 which one? 18:33:47 <|amethyst> menagerie 18:33:59 ??monstrous menagerie 18:33:59 monstrous menagerie[1/1]: L7 summoning spell (L6 in 0.17-) which summons either a manticore, lindwurm, harpy (multiples at higher power), or a sphinx (much rarer except at high power). 18:34:09 <|amethyst> the others are all SPFLAG_UNHOLY 18:34:15 -!- vev has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:34:28 this is the one kirke has, right 18:34:41 <|amethyst> yes 18:35:48 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:39:18 i mean, menagerie can absolutely carry you through to the orb. 18:39:28 or it could back when it was L5. so many nerfs... 18:40:23 ??summon dragon[2 18:40:23 summon dragon[2/2]: A level 9 summoning spell. Summons: fire, ice, storm, shadow, iron, quicksilver and golden dragons. Found in the book of the dragon. Can summon two fire/ice dragons at high power. The dragons are always friendly. 18:40:40 ??dragon's call 18:40:40 dragon's call[1/1]: 0.14+: Gives a status which temporarily summons dragons all around you, attacking random hostiles. Each dragon costs 2 or 3 MP, and the rate of summoning slows when you have a lot of dragons active. Has a 150-250 aut cooldown. 18:40:52 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:40:53 -!- MarvinPA has left ##crawl-dev 18:41:20 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 18:41:23 wonder how helpful this would be with tso 18:43:15 I expect it's quite strong, as it is normally. 18:44:25 so, setting aside whether this is a good idea at all 18:45:07 which would be less dumb: a) getting hit interrupts climbing stairs, or b) you can't climb stairs with an enemy adjacent to you 18:45:19 a 18:45:32 a) is what i implemented reflexively 18:45:55 b is questionable due to crawl rng 18:46:12 not fair if a player goes downstairs, sees a nasty monster next to hihm 18:46:15 *him 18:46:17 and a horde 18:46:21 around 18:46:37 FIQ: maybe 18:47:05 -!- fallenxxxsky has quit [Client Quit] 18:47:15 if you really hate stairdancing that bad 18:47:23 just induce vertigo on dlvl change 18:47:33 problem solved 18:47:39 -!- oxeimon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:47:42 i... don't think that's true 18:47:51 why not 18:48:05 it just means you pull one guy up stairs, wait until vertigo ends, then kill it 18:48:13 same effect, one extra step 18:48:41 vertigo kills your ev, doesn't it 18:48:53 you just walk away while it's on 18:48:58 makes engaging stuff latergame much more dangerous 18:49:16 ??vertigo 18:49:16 vertigo[1/1]: A short-lived status (3-6 turns) caused by wearing amulets of dismissal. The effect is about the same as wearing heavier armour: decreased EV, increased spellcasting failure, and decreased accuracy. 18:49:18 i mean, c) was: stairclimbing takes WAY longer 18:49:36 one alternative to vertigo 18:49:53 is something else that serves a similar purpose but actually combats stairdancing 18:49:57 ontoclasm: c) would work, but lead to unfun deaths 18:49:59 as an example 18:50:06 this might be a terrible idea but still 18:50:17 if you climb stairs repeatedly 18:50:28 you might get "tired" (read: slow) 18:50:38 progressively longer the more you do it 18:50:43 well, you'd still jsut wait it off 18:50:58 you cannot outrun stuff if you're slow 18:51:22 i mean, you pull a guy up, kill him, wait until you're not slow, repeat 18:51:25 and being slow while stairdancing seems very dangerous in general 18:51:31 no look 18:51:36 not merely going up would slow 18:51:38 but also going down 18:51:46 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 18:51:49 i understand 18:51:50 ontoclasm: time is almost never the correct answer 18:52:00 so basically 18:52:09 it's as if you were slow the entire time during the stairdance 18:52:14 but does this "tired" status ever end? 18:52:14 so you can't really wait it out 18:53:04 I'd probably say no 18:53:18 (Allthough it would be per-staircase) 18:53:37 Personally I think this idea is questionable 18:53:39 But then again 18:53:51 I never had anything against stairdancing in first place 18:54:48 well, stairdancing once is alright, doing it time and time again to clear a room, not so muhc 18:55:26 that's unreliable in many circumstances 18:55:31 it tends to be better to just take other stairs 18:55:37 my proposal would solve that I think 18:55:41 really it's mostly just tomb that's the problem 18:55:58 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:56:14 also thinking about it a bit, I don't think it needs to be progressively longer, just make it last for like 10 turns 18:56:32 -!- fallenxxsky has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:57:19 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 18:57:57 fwiw it's not stairdancing specifically that i'm trying to "nerf" 18:58:05 I think that stairdancing is sometimes a nuisance, but that luring is a much bigger problem 18:58:10 it's... basically any ~tactical~ use of stairs 18:58:14 ontoclasm: what is the plan? 18:58:20 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:58:51 well 18:59:01 dpeg: i'm tired of seeing 50-page discussions about it so i made a (local, of course) branch with speed-11* monsters and no energy randomization 18:59:02 I don't see running away using stairs being an issue 18:59:22 ontoclasm: do they have speed 11 from the outset, or after a while? 18:59:23 *really it's move_energy 9 so it doesn't affect actions 18:59:29 always 18:59:30 to "permanently" leave an enemy behind while you recover and do whatever you do to prepare the encounter again (or just avoid it) 18:59:57 ontoclasm: interesting... I am sure this is actually playable :) 19:00:05 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:05 i mean, in quote-unquote normal situations it barely matters 19:00:16 this means you can't run away 19:00:21 you can 19:00:27 you just can't getr a step away 19:00:36 an indirect chei buff and a seveere nerf to everything else 19:00:39 which is the point basically 19:00:45 huh? but normal speed is 10? 19:00:53 you can run from things faster than you 19:01:07 they catch up 19:01:08 if you see them at the edge of LoS it takes them ~60 turns to get adjacent to you 19:01:19 you just can't run forever and ever 19:01:26 also 19:01:31 and you can't make a gap by waiting for energy randomization to swing your way 19:01:40 it makes any somewhat-faster role much better 19:01:45 and boots of running 19:01:56 yes, i dislike those too frankly >.> 19:02:14 imo monsters should just be faster than players, period 19:02:27 barring like, consumables and stuff 19:02:30 so basically 19:02:33 you're saying 19:02:41 that you hate pillar dancing 19:02:42 got it 19:02:46 man 19:02:49 among other things 19:02:50 does anyone in crawl even pillar dance 19:03:00 i do and it's awful 19:03:03 yes... on d:1 19:03:03 huh 19:03:04 crazy 19:03:07 I do 19:03:12 a lot 19:03:14 if playing a caster 19:03:16 and pretty much only there 19:03:28 yeah, it doesn't happen after the very early game 19:03:41 because max MP is like 19:03:41 3 19:03:49 a few misses and you're in trouble 19:04:56 WebFungus: yes (to pillar dancing), even I do sometimes :( 19:05:03 ontoclasm: sounds very good to me! 19:05:13 bizarre 19:05:36 well, i'm gonna say "screw it" to any stair changes 19:05:53 i can't think of a good way to do them 19:05:55 !send pillars dpeg 19:05:55 Sending dpeg to pillars. 19:07:28 ontoclasm: ontoclasm not necessary to tackle everything at once... and luring is more important anyway 19:11:35 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:15:41 heh 19:15:44 anyway 19:16:02 WebFungus: did you decide on a color scheme for H 19:16:24 I went with lgreen/lblue in one place and lcyan in the other 19:16:38 I may shuffle them around as it suits me. 19:16:46 any particular reason? 19:17:13 well, if i feel like it i might make some icons 19:17:26 i guess i should wait until you're farther along 19:17:51 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:19:24 I'm actually pretty far along 19:19:45 I should probably toss the branch up at some point, though the commits are sadly not tidy 19:19:55 but it'd be so much work to fix the history... 19:21:39 I could plausibly have a branch ready for testing this weekend, though I'm still vaguely hoping to avoid sprint commit conflicts 19:24:23 what abilities does she grant? 19:24:33 (actives, i mean) 19:25:11 -!- oxeimon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:26:33 "Ancestral Recall" (recall), "Draw From Memory" (resummon a dead ancestor), "Romanticize" (ancestor healing+status removal+temp resist), "Transference" (trade places/lives??? with your ancestor) 19:26:50 and then 8 different "choose x" pseudo-abilities 19:27:11 3 different classes (knight, battlemage, hexer - choose one) 19:27:35 5 different "on-death" effects (slow, disperse, fog, implode, explode - choose one) 19:27:56 now that I'm trying to explain it, this god sounds sort of overly complicated. 19:28:12 still fewer abilities than certain gods starting with R I could name, though............ 19:28:19 well, you could merge recall and revive i guess 19:28:26 * ontoclasm shrugs 19:29:07 revive costs piety, recall doesn't 19:29:17 only one's available at a time 19:29:38 ah 19:30:23 since you only get one ancestor 19:30:34 so they're either dead (revivable but not recallable) or, uh, undead 19:34:16 TOTAL ART REQUIREMENTS: 12 ability icons, 4 monster sprites, 1 altar tile, and a partridge in a pear tree 19:34:31 probably I'll do at least a placeholder for the monster sprites & altar myself 19:34:48 hah 19:36:58 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:39:08 -!- elvira_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:43:23 is this for Hepliaklqana? 19:43:31 also you may use Hep for short >.> 19:44:02 I'm hep to that 19:44:11 and also, yes 19:46:26 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:49:27 -!- WebFungus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:53:28 -!- Oroborous has quit [Client Quit] 19:54:38 oh cool, i got a high score on comborobin 19:54:39 !hs * spgl 19:54:40 2692. comborobin the Imperceptible (L27 SpGl of Okawaru), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2016-02-13 00:28:33, with 15097812 points after 102252 turns and 13:32:03. 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:20 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:02:21 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 20:11:57 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:16:14 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:17:08 amalloy: well, that could be anyone, really. 20:17:50 i nealry died in dis:$. if i had, i would be willing to concede credit 20:18:07 6HP with a hell sentinel in view, and i miscast ddoor at 1% fail 20:19:43 lmao 20:22:12 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:31:11 -!- } has quit [] 20:43:47 -!- Guest77724 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:46:58 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:47:35 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 20:56:49 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:25 !tell ontoclasm what do you mean "panlord spell frequency vary more" total frequency or individual spell? 21:00:26 chequers: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 21:16:27 @??goblin hd:18 spells:fireball.50.wizard,bolt_of_cold.50.wizard 21:16:27 goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 59-83 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | XP: 1504 | Sp: fireball (3d28) | Sz: small | Int: human. 21:16:32 hm 21:16:40 @??goblin hd:18 spells:bolt_of_cold.50.wizard 21:16:40 goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 59-83 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | XP: 1433 | Sp: b.cold (3d27) | Sz: small | Int: human. 21:16:47 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 21:16:56 @??goblin hd:18 spells:bolt_of_magma.50.wizard 21:16:56 goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 59-83 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | XP: 1433 | Sp: b.magma (3d27) | Sz: small | Int: human. 21:17:39 <|amethyst> hm 21:17:59 ? 21:18:02 <|amethyst> I was thinking about letting Maurice pick up seen items 21:18:16 he can ... if you pick them up first 21:18:17 <.< >.> 21:18:42 <|amethyst> and trying to decide whether to let him continue to do so when he polymorphs (even though his loses his AF_STEAL) 21:19:01 <|amethyst> or whether perhaps to check for a AF_STEAL attack instead of MONS_MAURICE 21:19:41 |amethyst: make sure he only picks up non-tactical items, otherwise you encourage players to hide/destroy items again 21:20:52 maurice is so weird 21:21:06 also, I'm not convinced that he's common enough to encourage much of anything 21:26:46 hm 21:26:54 I want to toss this wrath out before I implement it: 21:27:02 you cannot gain xp for the duration of the wrath. 21:27:14 that's it. [that and maybe a few ancestors jump you at the very end. but that'd just be a bonus.] 21:27:24 PleasingFungus: so you kill monsters and get no xp? 21:27:31 Yes. 21:27:45 xp-gated i guess 21:27:45 ontoclasm: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 21:27:47 Also, maybe anything that'd give a significant amount of xp makes the god laugh at you. 21:27:50 but there is no way but killing monsters to work off wrath, right? 21:27:50 or... xp you would have had 21:28:02 !messages 21:28:02 (1/1) chequers said (27m 30s ago): what do you mean "panlord spell frequency vary more" total frequency or individual spell? 21:28:07 Once the god devours enough xp, you're free from wrath. 21:28:15 PleasingFungus: yes, sounds good 21:28:49 It's kind of close to ash's... not quite the same, though 21:29:01 chequers: i was just joking xD 21:29:08 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:40:22 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:42:51 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 21:52:09 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 21:52:31 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Quit: Excess flood] 21:59:52 -!- Alcopop has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:06:44 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:07:48 -!- Shinino has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:08:51 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 22:08:51 PleasingFungus: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/helpal.png 22:09:03 ooo 22:09:22 (color is easy to change if you decide to) 22:09:23 which one's that? 22:09:29 the summon/revive one 22:09:47 ah, that was my guess 22:10:19 the "symbol" for summoning is that ring below 22:10:56 recall is always a flag, so that'll be easy 22:11:36 visual languages are cool 22:14:50 <|amethyst> hm 22:15:17 <|amethyst> I wonder if anyone has made a visual programming language for bespoke integrated circuits 22:15:22 <|amethyst> the could call it Visual ASIC 22:15:28 !banish |amethyst 22:15:29 PleasingFungus casts a spell. |amethyst is cast into Hell! 22:15:33 wow, harsh 22:15:41 <|amethyst> it's okay 22:15:46 also iirc the verilog stuff I did had a visual gui for a bunch of the wiring 22:15:52 <|amethyst> they've been telling me I'm going there for decades now 22:15:52 aaa cadence 22:18:41 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:30:52 ontoclasm: oh 22:31:54 is cdo down 22:32:03 3 hours, 47 minutes, 55 seconds since last activity (cdo) 22:34:10 rip 22:36:58 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:40:58 has the devwiki been updated in regards to H yet 22:43:04 c a d e n c e 22:45:50 Lightli: sorry, no 22:45:54 but dev branch might be up this weekend 22:46:18 will definitely test 22:47:19 :) 22:47:56 todos: messaging for new spells (small), wrath (medium), nice ancestor names (medium), fixing the rebase (?????) 22:48:09 and then a bunch of sprite stuff, like integrating ontoclasm's lovely tile 22:48:30 i'm making more~ 22:48:31 but that's not quite needed for a branch 22:48:33 !!! 22:48:34 dang... 22:48:43 at this rate, will I even get to make any placeholders at all? 22:48:51 you're gonna rob me of all my fun 22:48:59 hah 22:49:10 not gonna make any monsters or the altar, at least not yet 22:50:24 the monsters will be my children. 22:50:32 those were the ones I really wanted to make, anyway 22:54:56 !learn del amalloy_todo[rpois 22:54:56 amalloy_todo has 10 entries, you can only delete one at a time. 22:55:08 !learn del amalloy_todo[3 22:55:08 Deleted amalloy todo[3/10]: don't print "you feel resistant to poison" when wearing rPois on a poison-immune race 22:55:25 PleasingFungus: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/helpal.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/helpal_recall.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/helpal_heal.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/helpal_switch.png 22:55:29 !learn del amalloy_todo[7 22:55:30 Deleted amalloy todo[7/9]: does monster Pain pierce through enemies somehow? 22:56:03 i guess you get to make placeholder selection icons too 22:56:04 hehe ~the god icon looks like a helmet upgrade from a sci fi game 22:56:15 I think that's supposed to be an ancestor, not the god 22:56:16 hah 22:56:19 gods have no physical form :) 22:56:41 http://images1.novica.net/pictures/4/p195082_2a.jpg 22:56:45 would be worried about similarity of Draw Out Memory & Romanticise (revive/heal) icons, but I guess you're only getting one at a time 22:56:49 it's an ancestor mask 22:57:14 i might redo the romanticise one, not sure about that 22:58:07 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:58:51 I feel like some kind of shining/beaming/sparkling effect might be better than bubbling 22:58:57 all nice and clean and pure 22:59:08 hm 23:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:02:42 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 23:02:49 well, i'll take another swing at it later 23:04:04 03amalloy02 07* 0.18-a0-1309-g91c7ef8: You can't "begin to rot" now that rot is instantaneous 10(42 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/91c7ef87f879 23:04:08 i think it's mostly the neon effect 23:04:10 very sci fi blue 23:04:19 !learn del amalloy_todo[6 23:04:19 Deleted amalloy todo[6/8]: "You begin to rot!" is silly given that rot is instant 23:04:36 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:06:26 re the above commit: is there a player race or form that rots but doesn't have flesh? i guess the message could be bad, if so 23:10:07 I vaguely remember there being some contention about mummies 23:11:39 !tell wheals i think 24adf828 broke commands like x< and x\ 23:11:39 amalloy: OK, I'll let wheals know. 23:14:20 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 23:18:03 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 23:18:41 I'm including an ellipse here specifically so that marvinpa can remove it later. 23:18:46 hopefully, this will sate his lust for blood. 23:19:06 I'm also including it because I'm addicted to ellipses. 23:19:29 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:21:49 1learn add PleasingFungus loves ovals 23:21:57 it's true! 23:23:51 -!- jefus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:26:23 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:26:47 -!- jefus_ is now known as jefus 23:27:25 ooh, reference to xp card / felid interactions in a comment 23:32:54 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:33:39 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 23:39:27 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:40:18 03amalloy02 07* 0.18-a0-1310-g2a388f2: Display correct shield-skill penalties while transformed (jefus) 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2a388f244313 23:40:18 03amalloy02 07* 0.18-a0-1311-g779ca93: Don't display silly shield-penalty skills for small races 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 12+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/779ca93be943 23:40:55 !learn del amalloy_todo[3 23:40:55 Deleted amalloy todo[3/7]: destroy everything that makes zxc happy 23:40:58 oops 23:41:04 well, i guess i can consider that done 23:41:14 !learn del amalloy_todo[3 23:41:15 Deleted amalloy todo[3/6]: fix shield skill penalty display (when forms change your size, or on shields you can never wear) 23:42:17 oh thanks amalloy 23:42:58 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:43:58 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 23:50:58 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:59:58 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1311-g779ca93 (34)