00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:02:06 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:03:58 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 00:04:23 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:08:56 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 00:10:55 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 00:31:53 -!- Jamo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:32:44 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 00:33:08 -!- asdu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:33:43 Orcmeat (L17 SpCj) ERROR in 'mon-cast.cc' at line 1308: Unknown monster spell 'Debugging Ray' cast by Nessos (D:13) 00:35:49 Orcmeat (L17 SpCj) ERROR in 'mon-cast.cc' at line 1308: Unknown monster spell 'Debugging Ray' cast by Nessos (D:13) 00:37:13 PleasingFungus: you broke it 00:37:26 fuck 00:37:30 oh 00:37:31 You. Broke. Nessos. 00:37:34 lmao 00:37:48 nce 00:37:53 *nice 00:40:17 compiling a fix 00:42:01 how'd you break nessos? 00:42:08 wands 00:42:35 Nessos is trying there to use a wand that's been removed :) 00:47:20 fr: wand of fire poison 00:47:38 Bolt of venom fire 00:47:47 fr: wand of destruction 00:47:55 replaces rod of destruction 00:47:56 <.< 00:48:02 wand of singularity? 00:48:20 wand of glaciatornado shatterstorm 00:48:39 given to every random pan lord 00:48:44 no no 00:48:46 give to 00:48:47 Ijyb 00:49:09 !lg * recent killer=ijyb max=dam x=dam,ckaux 00:49:10 6893. [dam=40;ckaux=wand of fire] suduhmizer the Conjurer (L4 MuWz), blasted by Ijyb (wand of fire) on D:3 on 2015-03-26 22:16:16, with 117 points after 3833 turns and 0:05:24. 00:49:59 -!- FireSight has quit [] 00:51:21 !lg * recent killer=jessica max=dam x=dam,ckaux 00:51:22 4451. [dam=48;ckaux=exploding inner flame] GauBot the Chopper (L6 GrBe of Trog), blasted by Jessica (exploding inner flame) (hexed by the player character) on D:3 (tgw_sif) on 2015-06-17 02:24:14, with 304 points after 3479 turns and 0:03:29. 00:51:37 you go girl 00:51:43 !lg * recent killer=terrance max=dam x=dam,ckaux 00:51:43 No games for * (recent killer=terrance). 00:51:47 !lg * recent killer=terance max=dam x=dam,ckaux 00:51:48 No games for * (recent killer=terance). 00:51:53 ??terance 00:51:53 terance ~ terence[1/1]: A unique human fighter generally regarded as a pushover, though he occasionally spawns with a wand in which case he can be fairly dangerous. 00:51:58 !lg * recent killer=terence max=dam x=dam,ckaux 00:52:00 7860. [dam=44;ckaux=exploding inner flame] eALc the Shield-Bearer (L3 FoFi), blasted by Terence (exploding inner flame) (hexed by the player character) on D:2 on 2016-01-10 17:35:49, with 42 points after 852 turns and 0:07:55. 00:52:17 !lg * ckaux=exploding_inner_flame max=dam x=dam 00:52:18 7705. [dam=81] gofftc the Firebug (L4 MuFE), killed by an exploding inner flame on D:5 on 2011-08-12 02:34:20, with 240 points after 4085 turns and 0:16:43. 00:52:30 !lg * ckaux=exploding_inner_flame max=dam x=dam -tv 00:52:31 7705. gofftc, XL4 MuFE, T:4085 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:52:39 rip 00:52:44 !lg * ckaux=exploding_inner_flame max=dam x=dam -2 00:52:45 7704/7705. [dam=81] hackum the Martial Artist (L11 DgAr), blasted by a hippogriff (exploding inner flame) (hexed by the player character) on D:12 on 2015-02-07 13:53:30, with 15635 points after 15000 turns and 0:39:36. 00:52:50 neat 00:53:24 !lg * recent killer=uniq 00:53:27 136082. rast the Charmwright (L2 FeSk), blasted by Jessica (nerve-wracking pain) on D:2 on 2016-01-31 05:46:39, with 15 points after 711 turns and 0:02:02. 00:53:36 !lg * recent killer=uniq max=dam x=dam,ckaux 00:53:40 136082. [dam=140;ckaux=by Shatter] Bartledoo the Earth Mage (L17 GrEE of Vehumet), blasted by Jorgrun (Shatter) on Swamp:2 on 2015-04-09 02:17:50, with 138070 points after 58880 turns and 4:36:05. 00:53:56 !lg * recent killer=uniq max=dam x=dam,ckaux -2 00:53:59 136082/136083. [dam=134;ckaux=by Shatter] McCoppin the Wrestler (L19 TrHu of Cheibriados), blasted by Jorgrun (Shatter) on Vaults:2 on 2015-03-03 21:21:31, with 275286 points after 41196 turns and 4:22:23. 00:54:13 !lg * recent killer=uniq max=dam x=dam,ckaux ckaux!=by_shatter 00:54:13 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:54:17 135865. [dam=132;ckaux=searing blast] sabu the Peltast (L21 MfSu of Ashenzari), blasted by Xtahua (searing blast) on Vaults:4 on 2015-05-01 14:49:54, with 304577 points after 78182 turns and 14:06:33. 00:54:22 nice 00:54:22 dang 00:54:31 !lg * recent killer=uniq max=dam x=status 00:54:32 !lg * recent killer=uniq max=dam x=status -2 00:54:34 136083. [status=] Bartledoo the Earth Mage (L17 GrEE of Vehumet), blasted by Jorgrun (Shatter) on Swamp:2 on 2015-04-09 02:17:50, with 138070 points after 58880 turns and 4:36:05. 00:54:42 136082/136083. [status=petrified] McCoppin the Wrestler (L19 TrHu of Cheibriados), blasted by Jorgrun (Shatter) on Vaults:2 on 2015-03-03 21:21:31, with 275286 points after 41196 turns and 4:22:23. 00:54:48 grounded Gr and petrified 00:54:54 !lg . killer=uniq max=dam x=dam,ckaux 00:54:54 180. [dam=70;ckaux=bolt of fire] gammafunk the Summoner (L12 HESu of Sif Muna), blasted by Mara (bolt of fire) on Shoals:5 on 2015-03-22 03:50:57, with 20698 points after 9231 turns and 1:12:39. 00:54:55 learn to fight Jorgrun folks <.< 00:55:03 oh man, I remember that mara kill 00:55:08 !lg . killer=uniq max=dam x=dam,ckaux 00:55:10 191. [dam=55;ckaux=orb of destruction] SGrunt the Bringer of Law (L23 HuAr of Zin), blown up by Boris on Vaults:5 (vaults_vault) on 2013-11-17 22:29:01, with 364858 points after 111279 turns and 5:11:49. 00:55:10 he one-shot the turn he came into LOS 00:55:14 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1203-gbde16db: Don't crash when a monster zaps a removed wand 10(25 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bde16dbc7979 00:55:19 ha, I remember that death 00:55:19 oops, got distracted 00:55:22 there we go 00:55:31 I had something like 68 mhp and he did 70 00:55:40 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:55:46 !lg gammafunk killer=uniq max=dam x=hp,mhp 00:55:48 180. [hp=-4;mhp=66] gammafunk the Summoner (L12 HESu of Sif Muna), blasted by Mara (bolt of fire) on Shoals:5 on 2015-03-22 03:50:57, with 20698 points after 9231 turns and 1:12:39. 00:55:51 nice 00:56:01 !lg . killer=uniq max=dam x=dam,ckaux -2 00:56:02 190/191. [dam=53;ckaux=fireball] SGrunt the Crack Shot (L18 HEGl of Fedhas), blasted by Margery (fireball) on Vaults:4 (layout_vaults; vaults_room_10_facing_encounter_2_pools) on 2013-01-24 23:20:03, with 203317 points after 51674 turns and 2:49:23. 00:56:11 I remember that death too 00:56:19 !lg . killer=uniq max=dam x=dam,ckaux -3 00:56:21 189/191. [dam=49;ckaux=blast of hellfire] SGrunt the Markself (L15 HEHu of Okawaru), blasted by Azrael (blast of hellfire) on D:14 on 2014-02-19 16:44:20, with 102182 points after 40767 turns and 1:55:49. 00:56:32 this one I don't remember unless 00:56:34 !lg . killer=uniq max=dam x=dam,ckaux -3 -tv 00:56:36 189/191. SGrunt, XL15 HEHu, T:40767 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:56:42 !lg . killer=uniq max=dam x=dam,ckaux -2 00:56:43 179/180. [dam=60;ckaux=bolt of fire] gammafunk the Eclecticist (L19 VpIE of Makhleb), blasted by Margery (bolt of fire) on Crypt:3 on 2013-01-19 20:59:45, with 240149 points after 81166 turns and 11:59:17. 00:57:05 yeah, this is the game I thought it was 00:57:18 I thought I played this more recently than I did 00:57:44 !lg . killer=uniq max=dam x=dam,ckaux -4 00:57:45 188/191. [dam=47;ckaux=iron shot] SGrunt the Bringer of Law (L22 HuAr of Zin), blasted by Boris (iron shot) on Shoals:5 on 2013-10-07 01:00:03, with 307191 points after 94182 turns and 5:01:18. 00:57:49 !lg . killer=uniq max=dam x=dam,ckaux -5 00:57:51 187/191. [dam=45;ckaux=bolt of cold] SGrunt the Hawkeye (L18 OgHu of Trog), blasted by Frederick (bolt of cold) on Vaults:5 on 2012-08-20 20:19:26, with 164953 points after 49507 turns and 2:58:32. 00:57:56 ^ this one was fun 00:58:04 I think it was the first time I ever remember fighting Frederick 00:58:09 and I had no idea what I was doing 00:58:21 dying to frederick ought to be a cheevo 00:58:32 heh 00:58:37 !killratio frederick * current 00:58:39 this was oldFrederick too 00:58:45 before servitor even existed 00:58:53 frederick wins 0.268% of battles against * (current). 00:58:56 dang 00:59:08 !lg . killer=uniq max=dam x=cv -5 00:59:10 187/191. [cv=0.12-a] SGrunt the Hawkeye (L18 OgHu of Trog), blasted by Frederick (bolt of cold) on Vaults:5 on 2012-08-20 20:19:26, with 164953 points after 49507 turns and 2:58:32. 00:59:15 !killratio frederick * cv=0.12-a 00:59:18 frederick wins 2.190% of battles against * (cv=0.12-a). 00:59:24 ??????? 00:59:26 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:59:28 !killratio frederick * cv=0.13-a 00:59:29 !killratio frederick * cv=0.14-a 00:59:30 !killratio frederick * cv=0.15-a 00:59:32 !killratio frederick * cv=0.16-a 00:59:32 frederick wins 2.226% of battles against * (cv=0.13-a). 00:59:33 !killratio frederick * cv=0.17-a 00:59:35 frederick wins 0.787% of battles against * (cv=0.15-a). 00:59:38 frederick wins 1.377% of battles against * (cv=0.14-a). 00:59:41 frederick wins 1.050% of battles against * (cv=0.16-a). 00:59:44 frederick wins 0.298% of battles against * (cv=0.17-a). 00:59:45 well 00:59:47 that's 00:59:49 interesting 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:13 his placement has changed some, I think? 01:00:26 yeazh 01:03:04 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1203-gbde16db (34) 01:04:13 -!- Earlo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:05:15 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:12:12 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:13:47 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:14:19 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:17:55 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1203-gbde16db (34) 01:19:31 -!- Blazinghbnd_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:21:27 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:21:36 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:23:44 -!- yottam has joined ##crawl-dev 01:26:07 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:27:41 look at frederick, getting weaker every day 01:28:08 he's trying his best 01:29:15 he super-murdered the best foee i've ever had 01:29:25 so at least i'm part of that 0.298% 01:31:12 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:31:23 -!- NeremWorld has quit [] 01:33:08 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:38:00 -!- Harudoku has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:40:03 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 01:47:42 svendre (L16 HONe) ERROR in 'mon-cast.cc' at line 1308: Unknown monster spell 'Debugging Ray' cast by Urug (Shoals:1) 01:49:21 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:53:05 -!- vale__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:55:26 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1203-gbde16db 01:58:03 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:27:26 Crash when using Ukayaw's Grand Finale in presence of lost soul 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10268 by ayayaya 02:33:00 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 02:33:59 -!- KuKumber has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:34:54 -!- chewymouse has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:38:53 -!- Blade- has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:41:09 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:45:22 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:49:30 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1203-gbde16db 02:51:20 -!- noppa354_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:53:41 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:57:37 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:59:15 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:03:15 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:03:56 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:10:21 -!- Hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:12:18 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1203-gbde16db (34) 03:15:51 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:17:22 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:19:12 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 03:22:55 -!- mong has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:25:16 -!- sorlin has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:30:32 -!- edsrzf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:50:13 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:51:27 -!- sorlin has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:53:58 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 03:54:06 -!- Naruni has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:55:46 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:01:21 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:02:39 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:07:12 -!- Harudoku` has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:12:14 yay 04:12:22 my super cool ukayaw game crashed! 04:19:50 !crash * cbro 04:19:55 345. ProzacElf, XL5 VpTm, T:2298 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/ProzacElf/crash-ProzacElf-20160131-091135.txt 04:20:17 wonder why rotatell didn't announce it 04:21:23 dunno 04:21:41 that's why i figured i should holler about it in here 04:22:11 our bot on EFnet just posted this: trumpforp› ProzacElf the Insei (L5 VpTm of Ukayaw) (D:4, 2,298T 00:05:54) 04:22:30 but i think our bot just pulls from the raw sequell stuff 04:23:11 mmmm 04:23:21 looks like it was just as i hit 3* piety for the first time 04:24:23 johnstein: sizzell.pl probably doesn't have the milestone file 04:27:56 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 04:29:57 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 04:31:28 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:31:39 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:32:36 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 04:33:45 !tell Lasty _prepare_audience crashes if mons HD is high enough to make power negative: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/ProzacElf/crash-ProzacElf-20160131-091135.txt 04:33:45 Medar: OK, I'll let lasty know. 04:34:05 hah 04:34:41 get more skillz 04:35:36 i got mad skillz yo 04:40:08 -!- Blazinghbnd_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:40:33 -!- Blazinghbnd_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:44:45 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 04:46:38 !tell Lasty seems weird to get 2* as a monk under U and immediately lose it, probably should either give no bonus or just put you up to the 1* that doesn't decay? 04:46:39 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let lasty know. 04:55:59 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:01:48 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:08:47 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:17:02 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:22:25 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:36:37 -!- Idolo has quit [] 05:37:22 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:39:23 -!- koboldina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:40:31 -!- Blazinghbnd_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:48:27 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:48:58 -!- sorlin1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:50:01 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 05:53:31 -!- Motku has joined ##crawl-dev 05:56:15 Hello. Sorry for using this place as a tech support but figured I might aswell. For some reason crawl has refused to run or even install on my windows 7 since 0.18 (Old 0.17 still runs just fine) Has there been anyone else with similiar problems/ does anyone know what could help? 06:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:02:25 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:07:31 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:18:11 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:25:18 Orcmeat (L17 SpCj) ERROR in 'mon-cast.cc' at line 1308: Unknown monster spell 'Debugging Ray' cast by Nessos (D:13) 06:25:28 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:25:56 Orcmeat (L17 SpCj) ERROR in 'mon-cast.cc' at line 1308: Unknown monster spell 'Debugging Ray' cast by Nessos (D:13) 06:28:01 Orcmeat (L17 SpCj) ERROR in 'mon-cast.cc' at line 1308: Unknown monster spell 'Debugging Ray' cast by Nessos (D:13) 06:29:19 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 06:30:31 Motku: the installer from http://crawl.develz.org/trunk/ ? 06:30:55 !lm orcmeat x=vlong 06:30:56 217. [2016-01-31 11:29:15] [vlong=0.18-a0-1202-g796ae12] Orcmeat the Sorcerer (L17 SpCj of Vehumet) reached level 4 of the Snake Pit on turn 64358. (Snake:4) 06:30:58 %git 06:30:58 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-1203-gbde16db: Don't crash when a monster zaps a removed wand 10(6 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bde16dbc7979 06:31:08 ??rebuild 06:31:09 rebuild[1/2]: https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 06:31:46 Medar, yes 06:32:17 seems to work for me on win10. what error do you get? did you try the non-installer version? 06:32:27 I tried the non installer version also 06:32:42 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:33:06 I don't get error message, but my whole computer gets into a laggy mode, and when i cehck processes there are several instances of crawl that refuse to shut down without logout. (Even powershell kill doesn't end them) 06:33:39 has been this way for a while now. I've tried several different versions of 0.18, none have worked for me 06:33:51 that's really weird 06:34:05 Would probably work if I formatted my pc, but would like to avoid that if possible :p 06:34:25 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:35:21 oddest thing is that 0.17 works just fine, so there is something with my pc and 0.18 that just don't mix 06:35:29 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1203-gbde16db (34) 06:35:36 no idea what it could be, especially if 0.17 works 06:36:04 it's ok, can always play on websites. Thanks for your time 06:36:12 don't remember any changes like that 06:36:29 could be that the trunk builds are done differently than the release builds, and that somehow matters 06:37:52 oh, one known bug is that it fails to run from paths with non-ascii letters 06:38:05 should result in a different error though, I think 06:50:04 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 06:50:58 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:03:19 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:08:23 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: No route to host] 07:10:40 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 07:24:54 -!- tealeaves has quit [*.net *.split] 07:24:54 -!- st_ has quit [*.net *.split] 07:24:54 -!- MakMorn has quit [*.net *.split] 07:24:54 -!- buki has quit [*.net *.split] 07:24:54 -!- banksy[Away] has quit [*.net *.split] 07:24:54 -!- zwisch has quit [*.net *.split] 07:24:54 -!- kvaak has quit [*.net *.split] 07:24:54 -!- dark_star has quit [*.net 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(FIQ) 10(7 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f8a36ecc3c98 10:26:52 -!- Twinge has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:32:53 -!- kuniqs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:41:36 there's a missing + in describe.cc:133 10:41:51 compare art-data.txt:1216 10:46:04 <|amethyst> that's intentional 10:46:44 <|amethyst> at least I think so 10:46:49 <|amethyst> %git 7fdabf7 10:46:49 07MarvinPA02 * 0.18-a0-1200-g7fdabf7: Adjust MP regen inscriptions 10(25 hours ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7fdabf725e14 10:47:00 <|amethyst> because etheric cage gives more MP than the amulet I guess 10:48:08 -!- PsyMar has quit [Quit: witty quit message goes here] 10:48:37 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:48:43 shouldn't it be RegenMP++ and + then? 10:48:55 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:50:13 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:50:58 <|amethyst> possibly 10:51:27 <|amethyst> I worry a little that that would imply it's twice as much 10:51:46 <|amethyst> but then again, rF++ isn't "twice as much" as rF in any useful sense 10:54:13 -!- West1C has quit [] 10:55:16 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 10:55:23 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:57:22 well my reasoning is that if something has +, the lowest is usually 1 + 10:57:22 not 0 10:57:27 which looks a bit weird to me 10:59:24 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:30 -!- TAS-2012v has joined ##crawl-dev 11:01:54 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 11:01:58 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:01:58 -!- TAS-2012v is now known as TAS_2012v 11:04:40 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 11:06:30 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:15:38 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:16:26 -!- JJ_ is now known as Isvaffel 11:16:51 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 11:20:55 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:27:23 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:27:41 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:29:24 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:33:30 -!- passerby has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:36:18 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 11:40:23 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:42:55 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 11:45:11 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 11:53:28 melenkurio (L27 DDEE) ERROR in 'mon-cast.cc' at line 1308: Unknown monster spell 'Debugging Ray' cast by yaktaur (Vaults:5) 11:53:37 heh 11:54:15 !lm melenkurio x=vlong 11:54:16 146. [2016-01-31 16:53:27] [vlong=0.18-a0-1202-g796ae12] melenkurio the Metallomancer (L27 DDEE of Makhleb) ERROR in 'mon-cast.cc' at line 1308: Unknown monster spell 'Debugging Ray' cast by yaktaur (Vaults:5) 11:54:19 %git 11:54:19 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-1203-gbde16db: Don't crash when a monster zaps a removed wand 10(11 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bde16dbc7979 11:54:20 (aaand this is why I questioned leaving the removed wands in as dummies on save upgrades...) 11:54:23 ??rebuild 11:54:23 rebuild[1/2]: https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 11:54:27 !lg * god=Ukayaw 11:54:27 13. Magatonman the Cleaver (L8 HOFi of Ukayaw), slain by an ogre (a +0 giant spiked club) on D:7 (xom_confusion_cloud) on 2016-01-31 15:30:28, with 1271 points after 3675 turns and 0:14:38. 11:54:31 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:54:41 &versions 11:55:15 wonder if &versions could be sped up somehow 11:55:25 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:55:33 geekosaur: i mean, if you have a clean way to remove them on save transfer, let me know! 11:55:35 !cmd &versions 11:55:35 Command: &versions => .echo $(join ", " (map (fn (src) (concat $src ": " (=version.query $src $*))) (serverlist))) 11:55:44 !cmd =version.query 11:55:44 Command: =version.query => !lm * recent $* max=vlong fmt:"$vlong" stub:"none" 11:55:55 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-a0-1203-gbde16db (34) 11:55:56 would tighter time limit help? 11:55:57 CAO: 0.18-a0-1202-g796ae12, CBRO: 0.18-a0-1203-gbde16db, CDO: 0.18-a0-1203-gbde16db, CPO: 0.18-a0-1203-gbde16db, CSZO: 0.18-a0-1203-gbde16db, CUE: 0.18-a0-1202-g796ae12, CWZ: 0.18-a0-1163-g98183fe, CXC: 0.18-a0-1203-gbde16db, LLD: 0.18-a0-1132-g8c20bbc 11:56:23 time limit would make sense to me. tighten to a week or so maybe. instead of just "recent" 11:56:32 Does &versions try to reach the Asian servers? 11:56:34 depends on whether there's a date index, though 11:56:50 cwz is in there 11:57:05 it shouldn't be contacting them, it's just trawling sequell's milestone db 11:57:07 ??cwz 11:57:08 cwz[1/1]: Crawl server (webtiles-only) located in Korea; the server admin goes by hong on irc. http://webzook.net:8080/ 11:57:12 cool 11:57:26 it's just doing it once for each server 11:57:47 and then using one milestone out of all the ones returned from what is probably an overly-wide query 11:59:16 !kw thisweek 11:59:16 Keyword: thisweek => end>${day(now()) - ndayofweek(now()) * interval('1d')} 11:59:16 a more clever query would go over all "recent" (fsvo that might not be the keyword) and group by server+version, then take the max of each group 11:59:36 !kw recent 11:59:37 Keyword: recent => cv>=0.16 11:59:38 !kw current 11:59:39 Keyword: current => cv>=0.17 11:59:52 !cmd =version.query !lm * thisweek current $* max=vlong fmt:"$vlong" stub:"none" 11:59:53 Redefined command: =version.query => !lm * thisweek current $* max=vlong fmt:"$vlong" stub:"none" 12:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:03 &versions 12:00:26 CAO: 0.18-a0-1202-g796ae12, CBRO: 0.18-a0-1203-gbde16db, CDO: 0.18-a0-1203-gbde16db, CPO: 0.18-a0-1203-gbde16db, CSZO: 0.18-a0-1203-gbde16db, CUE: 0.18-a0-1202-g796ae12, CWZ: 0.18-a0-1163-g98183fe, CXC: 0.18-a0-1203-gbde16db, LLD: 0.18-a0-1132-g8c20bbc 12:00:32 much faster 12:00:41 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:02:21 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 12:02:25 melenkurio (L27 DDEE) ERROR in 'mon-cast.cc' at line 1308: Unknown monster spell 'Debugging Ray' cast by yaktaur (Vaults:5) 12:02:33 <|amethyst> !crashlog 12:02:35 12997. melenkurio, XL27 DDEE, T:104245 (milestone): http://underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue/melenkurio/crash-melenkurio-20160131-170225.txt 12:02:36 <|amethyst> !crashlog -2 12:02:37 No milestones for -2 (crash). 12:02:39 <|amethyst> !crashlog * -2 12:02:40 12996/12997. melenkurio, XL27 DDEE, T:102912 (milestone): http://underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue/melenkurio/crash-melenkurio-20160131-165327.txt 12:03:11 <|amethyst> !crashlog * -3 12:03:12 12995/12997. Orcmeat, XL17 SpCj, T:64357 (milestone): http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/Orcmeat/crash-Orcmeat-20160131-112744.txt 12:03:14 -!- WalrusKing has joined ##crawl-dev 12:04:41 <|amethyst> err 12:04:43 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1203-gbde16db (34) 12:04:46 -!- vev has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:04:48 <|amethyst> besides the crash, which is some wand 12:04:51 we already determined it's got 1202 and the fix was 1203 12:04:58 <|amethyst> ah 12:04:59 <|amethyst> Nessos intently looks at you, slowly moving his tail. 12:05:29 <|amethyst> oh, I guess horses do have tails, never mind 12:05:37 last I checked, yes :p 12:05:41 <|amethyst> I was thinking naga tail 12:06:04 !send |amethyst horse flies 12:06:05 Sending horse flies to |amethyst. 12:06:12 Vashnia intently looks at you, slowly moving her tail. 12:06:22 >.> 12:06:35 very old bug report: polymorphed nessos still does the body-part specific lines (referencing hooves, etc) 12:06:47 (fr: horse flies) 12:06:59 ?/Nessos, the 12:06:59 Matching entries (1): nessos[2]: Nessos, the merfolk. Nessos shouts, "I'm half man! Half horse! And all stone-cold KILLER!" 12:07:00 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:07:34 <|amethyst> Wiglaf stares ahead, looking utterly alone 12:07:37 fr: polymorph only affects half of Nessos 12:09:41 <|amethyst> that's kind of silly of course, but IMO that should actually happen for mutant beasts 12:09:46 -!- fallenxxxsky has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:10:22 <|amethyst> (leaving them as an mbeast but changing their facets) 12:10:30 ??cbro 12:10:31 cbro[1/4]: Server in Georgia, US: crawl.beRotato.org -- ssh port 22, username crawler, keys at http://crawl.beRotato.org/crawl/keys (no password access). In case of DNS problems, use crawl.boylecraft.net. Webtiles at: http://crawl.beRotato.org. Use glyph/sigil ^ for bots 12:10:31 <|amethyst> would have been cooler with chimerae 12:11:18 <|amethyst> dpeg: experimental branches are a little tricky to find in console, you need to select trunk first, then eXperimental 12:11:32 I still want poly (degen card) to reroll panlords 12:11:39 |amethyst: I need to log on CBRO first :) 12:11:44 <|amethyst> :) 12:18:59 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:19:12 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 12:20:46 ??debugging ray 12:20:46 I don't have a page labeled debugging_ray in my learndb. 12:21:20 !send Lightli an eggplant 12:21:20 Sending an eggplant to Lightli. 12:27:59 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:29:58 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:33:11 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 12:36:12 -!- asdu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:36:31 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:37:08 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 12:39:16 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:40:36 -!- dpeg_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:40:37 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 12:43:46 How can I see all games by someone on a given server? 12:44:19 <|amethyst> !lm neil cbro s=char 12:44:20 64 milestones for neil (cbro): 17x TrMo, 14x HOGl, 11x DsGl, 10x MfGl, 7x HuFi, HuIE, HuBe, HuEn, SpEn, DsMo 12:44:23 <|amethyst> err 12:44:23 thx 12:44:25 <|amethyst> !lg neil cbro s=char 12:44:26 26 games for neil (cbro): 7x HuFi, 4x DsGl, 4x TrMo, 3x HOGl, 3x MfGl, HuBe, HuIE, SpEn, DsMo, HuEn 12:44:31 !lg dpeg cbro 12:44:31 No games for dpeg (cbro). 12:45:19 !tell johnstein Hi, it seems as if my nick (dpeg) is registered on CBRO but I am sure I logged on to CBRO today for the first time. Could you reset the dpeg password (0 games by that account). Thank you! 12:45:19 dpeg_: OK, I'll let johnstein know. 12:48:32 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:51:38 !lm Infest 12:51:39 630. [2016-01-31 17:51:27] Infest the Cleaver (L8 MiFi of Ukayaw) became a worshipper of Ukayaw on turn 5188. (Temple) 12:51:46 -!- noppa354 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:51:49 |amethyst: ^ :) 12:52:22 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:54:46 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:03:25 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:04:00 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 13:08:17 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:13:36 -!- Misder has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:16:53 !lg * ukayaw s=name 13:16:54 No keyword 'ukayaw' 13:16:57 !lg * god=ukayaw s=name 13:16:58 14 games for * (god=ukayaw): 2x neil, 2x edsrzf, ProzacElf, comborobin, shoop, Lasty, perunasaurus, Psaro, mibe, moose, Magatonman, flyleaff 13:17:33 !lg * god=ukayaw s=name won 13:17:34 No games for * (god=ukayaw won). 13:20:37 !lm dpeg cbro sprint 13:20:39 No milestones for dpeg (cbro sprint). 13:31:35 -!- lukano has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:34:42 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:34:53 -!- atomicthumbs has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:41:55 -!- Nyvrem has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:50:13 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:55:30 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:55:31 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:02:27 -!- grimmulfr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:05:07 wait, so if I win a ukayaw game now it'll count? 14:05:27 !hs * explbr=combo_god 14:05:28 39. mibe the Executioner (L18 DsGl of Ukayaw), blasted by a tengu reaver (bolt of acid) (kmap: st_greater_box_3) on Vaults:2 on 2016-01-31 11:08:55, with 224245 points after 40957 turns and 1:48:43. 14:05:36 -!- nomicflux has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:05:45 it will count in sequell, but not on the cao pages (which ignore experimentals) 14:06:04 oh 14:08:38 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:10:49 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 14:13:22 -!- Harudoku is now known as Harudoku` 14:13:35 also affects streaks by default 14:13:37 !streak 14:13:39 johnstein has 2 consecutive wins (GrBe, MfTm; VSBe, OgWr) and has won their last game (HuFi). 14:13:42 !streak explbr= 14:13:43 johnstein (explbr=) has 3 consecutive wins (VSBe, OgWr, HuFi), and can keep going! 14:14:06 !lg . !explbr= 14:14:07 Broken query near '=' 14:14:11 !lg . explbr!= 14:14:12 7. johnstein the Charlatan (L2 DDAr), quit the game on D:1 on 2015-12-02 08:58:20, with 10 points after 391 turns and 0:04:42. 14:14:35 forgot I was in my johnstein account (trying to test an experimental with cbrotest) 14:14:36 oops 14:18:30 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:19:35 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:24:42 -!- Torax_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:26:02 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 14:26:06 ??experimental 14:26:06 experimental[1/1]: Experimental branches sometimes created on CSZO to test new features such as chunkless, smithgod, Ru. Games saved in these branches may become broken or get deleted. They are not tracked on CAO pages, but ask green.snark to add them to Sequell so they can be queried by lg/lm. 14:26:29 ??smithgod 14:26:29 smithgod ~ smith god ~ igni[1/1]: An abandoned experimental god, described in commit http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=c07910ae6d3bea3a66328782ca471c5a7da96add and available to play on {CSZO}. 14:27:38 -!- Bcadren has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:28:49 -!- kuniqs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:30:08 !learn edit smith_god s/ and available.*// 14:30:08 No change: regex ` and available.*` does not match `see {igni}` 14:30:12 !learn edit igni s/ and available.*// 14:30:12 igni[1/1]: An abandoned experimental god, described in commit http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=c07910ae6d3bea3a66328782ca471c5a7da96add 14:31:47 ??combogod 14:31:47 ukayaw[1/2]: Experimental branch god of ecstatic dance. Piety raises very quickly as you deal damage and drops very quickly over time. *: Stomp for AOE damage. **: Teleport through a line of creatures, confusing them. ***: on reaching this piety level, briefly paralyze all enemies in LOS. ****: On reaching this piety level, monsters share damage. *****: Telefrag any monster in LOS. 14:31:53 ??combogod[2 14:31:53 ukayaw powers[1/1]: *: Stomp. **: Line Pass. *****: Grand Finale. Upon reaching ***, briefly and irresistably paralyze all monsters in LOS. Upon reaching ****, pain bond all monsters in LOS. The *** and **** powers can be triggered once per 30 turns. All powers scale heavily w/ Invo. 14:31:57 experimental where? 14:32:05 cbro 14:32:09 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:32:09 ah 14:32:18 ??cbro 14:32:18 cbro[1/4]: Server in Georgia, US: crawl.beRotato.org -- ssh port 22, username crawler, keys at http://crawl.beRotato.org/crawl/keys (no password access). In case of DNS problems, use crawl.boylecraft.net. Webtiles at: http://crawl.beRotato.org. Use glyph/sigil ^ for bots 14:34:02 -!- cang has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:34:17 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:35:06 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:35:25 -!- Bcadren has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:35:26 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:35:45 -!- maxaitor has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:37:45 -!- Gorice has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:40:11 -!- clouded_ is now known as st_ 14:46:45 -!- atomicthumbs has joined ##crawl-dev 14:48:40 Your Unarmed Combat skill increases to level 17! _You headbutt DEAD MONSTER. 14:49:58 Lasty: I don't think the Ukayaw messages should disrupt resting and travel. 14:50:46 -!- syllogism has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:51:03 what determines grand finale success rate, invo? 14:52:09 -!- Adeon_ is now known as Adeon 14:55:19 invo and piety 14:55:24 -!- kramin has quit [Excess Flood] 14:55:47 ?? ***** 14:55:47 *****[1/1]: 120-159 piety 14:56:10 I think at 200 it's 0% or close even with 0 invo 14:57:12 dpeg_: yeah, it'd be best if they didn't 14:57:16 dpeg_: I should look into that 14:57:31 kvaak: it should be ~20% w/ 200 piety and no Invo 14:58:55 champion status with ukayaw probably shouldn't be tracked on sequell once this hits trunk 14:59:44 !hs * ukayaw 14:59:45 No keyword 'ukayaw' 14:59:53 Lightli: champion status is pretty meaningless for this god... 14:59:53 !kw ukayaw god=ukayaw 14:59:54 Defined keyword: ukayaw => god=ukayaw 14:59:59 !kw uka god=ukayaw 15:00:00 Defined keyword: uka => god=ukayaw 15:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:06 !hs * uka 15:00:07 17. Jarlyk2 the Tortoise (L18 DsGl of Ukayaw), blasted by Mara (illusionary) (bolt of fire) on Spider:4 on 2016-01-31 19:38:17, with 243319 points after 33312 turns and 3:21:29. 15:00:12 !kw u god=ukayaw 15:00:13 Defined keyword: u => god=ukayaw 15:00:15 you have oka and you have oka 15:00:19 u might already be depths 15:00:24 DrKe: NOT ANYMORE 15:00:25 oops 15:00:36 DrKe: yeah, wasn't thinking about oka/uka 15:00:49 next up: ika____ 15:00:54 hka 15:01:02 wka 15:01:08 lol, "trying out" uka 15:01:13 wkalndraste 15:01:18 cue not a single altar showing up for all of D:1-8 15:01:35 -!- roadmap has joined ##crawl-dev 15:01:36 FIQ: huh, that should be impossible 15:01:45 . . . or is it d9 that's the cutoff? 15:01:50 D:9 is the cutoff 15:01:50 also 15:02:00 presumably you should have seen temple somewhere in the meantime 15:02:12 I did 15:02:14 and I visited it 15:02:16 no uka 15:02:16 anyone know offhand where god messages are set to stop travel? 15:05:40 "stop += god:" 15:05:57 probably that 15:06:11 &rcfile 15:06:35 you want &rc 15:06:53 maybe YOU do 15:06:58 also, I already had a copy local :p 15:07:05 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 15:07:09 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 15:07:24 you want &rc gammafunk 15:07:26 someday I should finish up my own take on W 15:07:37 I need to figure out what the powers would be though :( 15:08:23 changing that to: 15:08:24 : if you.god() == "Ukayaw" then 15:08:24 stop += god: 15:08:24 : end 15:08:24 doesn't seem to do it 15:08:34 Grunt: I'd love to see your take on W! 15:08:41 er, lol 15:08:44 of course it didn't work 15:08:47 Lasty: I have some preliminary work on it already 15:08:50 I didn't think that through 15:08:53 just need to get the specifics done 15:09:03 Grunt: what's the general gist? 15:09:42 the premise at the time that I was last working on this was to combine the no backtracking conduct with the concept that had been floating around of the "stand your ground" god 15:09:53 (stand fast and press ever onwards!) 15:10:01 Grunt: yes, it should be possible to make a god out of that 15:10:08 Lasty, occuirs to me you could look for Jiyva messaging 15:10:11 We could move the charm buffs onto it :) 15:10:14 !!! 15:10:51 geekosaur: ah, good point. 15:11:36 Lasty: isn't that check backwards? presumably you want you.god() ~= 15:11:48 MarvinPA: yeah, that's what I was saying re: "didn't think that through" 15:11:50 didn't work tho 15:11:51 jiyva i think mutes messages individually or something 15:11:53 er 15:11:54 ah 15:12:12 isn't the rcfile evaulated before the player could get a god? 15:12:26 you'd need to save and load after converting, yeah 15:12:45 Didn't know that! 15:13:14 ah, here: ignore += Jiyva gurgles merrily 15:13:14 ignore += Jiyva appreciates your sacrifice 15:13:14 ignore += Jiyva says: Divide and consume 15:13:14 ignore += You hear.*splatter 15:13:41 yep. gotta do 'em individually, sadly 15:13:42 ah well 15:14:08 ideally those kinds of messages could go into a separate channel and both J and U could be cleaned up, and maybe others? 15:14:19 geekosaur: +1 15:14:30 but that means refactoring simple_god_message and friends 15:15:06 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:15:31 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 15:15:36 geekosaur: sounds like a good idea 15:15:37 and you can't do optional leading parameters in C++ 15:15:50 -!- Tompura has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 15:15:54 which would be the most obvious way to do it while retaining compatibility 15:16:31 (and trailing would be problematic if there are any format-like functions) 15:19:24 03Lasty02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1075-gb67a299: Ignore Ukayaw power gain/loss messages while autotraveling (dpeg) 10(34 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b67a2994f501 15:20:19 Experimental (combo_god) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1075-gb67a299 15:22:26 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 15:22:28 Lasty: awesome, you rock :) 15:22:39 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:22:39 dpeg_: thanks for the suggestion! 15:22:57 I can now even play as dpeg on CBRO, so next game will last longer :) 15:23:04 haha 15:23:08 you couldn't before? 15:23:22 no, some asshole sniped "dpeg" on the server 15:23:29 johnstein gave it back to me 15:23:32 haha 15:23:40 Lasty: did you see #10268? 15:23:43 after I got dev, I registered on all the servers just to be safe... 15:23:48 wheals: not yet.. 15:23:52 !mantis 10268 15:23:53 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10268 15:24:03 ah, gmm 15:24:05 *hmm 15:24:26 so yeah, how do we solve that? Prevent the lost soul from working? 15:24:37 * geekosaur should go looking for god messages and see if there are any screw cases for making a new channel 15:25:03 Or displace either the monster or the player? 15:25:29 leaning toward the former 15:26:01 !learn edit gammafunk[5] s/GrWn[^ ]+ // 15:26:02 gammafunk[5/7]: MfWn^Ru|Zin|Yred|Chei OgAK DEFE^Veh FeCj^Sif|Veh VpSu^Sif DgEE HOAs^Beogh MuVM^Ash|Gozag|Veh|Sif TeWz^Zin|Ru|Jiyva|Sif|Veh NaAE^Jiyva|Oka|Zin|Ru FoAM^Fedhas|Yred|Oka CeCK^Xom DDGl^Mak|Yred 15:26:17 !learn edit gammafunk[5] s/|Ru// 15:26:18 No change! 15:26:24 !learn edit gammafunk[5] s/\|Ru// 15:26:24 gammafunk[5/7]: MfWn^Ru|Zin|Yred|Chei OgAK DEFE^Veh FeCj^Sif|Veh VpSu^Sif DgEE HOAs^Beogh MuVM^Ash|Gozag|Veh|Sif TeWz^Zin|Jiyva|Sif|Veh NaAE^Jiyva|Oka|Zin|Ru FoAM^Fedhas|Yred|Oka CeCK^Xom DDGl^Mak|Yred 15:26:32 !learn edit gammafunk[5] s/\|Ru// 15:26:33 gammafunk[5/7]: MfWn^Ru|Zin|Yred|Chei OgAK DEFE^Veh FeCj^Sif|Veh VpSu^Sif DgEE HOAs^Beogh MuVM^Ash|Gozag|Veh|Sif TeWz^Zin|Jiyva|Sif|Veh NaAE^Jiyva|Oka|Zin FoAM^Fedhas|Yred|Oka CeCK^Xom DDGl^Mak|Yred 15:26:48 oh 15:26:58 !learn edit gammafunk[5] s/Ru\|//g 15:26:58 gammafunk[5/7]: MfWn^Zin|Yred|Chei OgAK DEFE^Veh FeCj^Sif|Veh VpSu^Sif DgEE HOAs^Beogh MuVM^Ash|Gozag|Veh|Sif TeWz^Zin|Jiyva|Sif|Veh NaAE^Jiyva|Oka|Zin FoAM^Fedhas|Yred|Oka CeCK^Xom DDGl^Mak|Yred 15:27:02 gammafunk: single god letter suffices for your bookkeeping :) 15:27:05 Lasty: what happens when you try to grand finale a ddoored monster, also? 15:27:19 MarvinPA: Excellent question! Probably nothing good! 15:27:25 dpeg_: I have to show it to others sometimes 15:27:25 The nergalle explodes! 15:27:32 dpeg_: because I'm famous 15:27:36 you become stuck inside nergalle forever 15:27:38 kvaak: did you achieve that? 15:27:41 no 15:27:47 I'm guessing it crashes 15:27:55 the function really assumes the monster stops being there 15:28:17 gammafunk: if they don't know the Crawl ABC, they're pathetic losers 15:28:22 i think the piety decay could be a bit slower 15:28:40 like, even if you want to take a risk going around with low hp to try and GF something else, it still is going to be gone before you can get there 15:29:04 dpeg_: even crawl devs don't know Crawl ABC! 15:29:24 it seems like the god concept of "super volatile piety" could work even if the piety decay was like 50% of what it is 15:29:28 It might make sense to prevent Grand Finale from targeting DDoor'd targets 15:29:54 ??telefrag 15:29:55 mnoleg[2/2]: Sort of telefragged by syllogism once! See !lm syllogism place=pan type=br.enter 3 -tv 15:30:18 !lg dpeg won s=god 15:30:19 38 games for dpeg (won): 15x Gozag, 4x Vehumet, 3x Sif Muna, 2x Kikubaaqudgha, 2x Lugonu, 2x Ashenzari, Beogh, Dithmenos, Yredelemnul, Fedhas, Xom, Okawaru, Zin, The Shining One, Cheibriados, Elyvilon 15:30:20 DrKe: yeah, I suppose that's the question: should the god to encourage players to seek out more monsters while piety is high? 15:30:32 dpeg_: furthermore I see some unwon gods there, you'd better get to work! 15:30:35 DrKe: mostly you'd want to do that to use grand finale 15:30:39 i think it would be more interesting if there was a choice of should i use GF on this or try to find something else 15:30:46 rather than you should just use it on the last monster every time 15:30:53 since it's gone either way 15:31:00 DrKe: and I think I'd rather if grand finale was mostly usable only in the conflict where you build it up 15:31:30 i mean, that's okay too 15:31:38 is telefrag unresistable instadeath? 15:31:42 yes 15:31:44 hmm 15:31:49 sounds OP 15:31:56 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:33:08 i guess i would prefer there being more decisions, like with ru 15:33:24 though tehre are a lot of gods where there aren't really serious decisions with how to use your abilities 15:34:13 DrKe: I've thinking of it more in terms of there being choices about when to continue the fight until you have grand finale available or to back out before hitting that point 15:34:25 DrKe: it may be that I should reconsider 15:34:51 yeah, i mean that is a good one and present 15:34:57 ??grand finale 15:34:57 grand finale[1/1]: Ukayaw ***** power. Blink to a non-mindless monster and explode it. Nearby monsters can be hit by flying bits for light damage. Can't be used against mindless targets. 15:35:00 but it's just not entirely separate from the general crawl playing equation 15:35:10 see "cowards win crawl" 15:35:10 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:35:24 !learn e grand_finale s/ Can't.*// 15:35:24 grand finale[1/1]: Ukayaw ***** power. Blink to a non-mindless monster and explode it. Nearby monsters can be hit by flying bits for light damage. 15:35:38 oh was that changed 15:35:40 telefrag ignores stasis it seems 15:35:43 wheals: Why'd you remove that? 15:35:50 FIQ: it does 15:35:50 just blew up a queen bee in tree form lol 15:35:52 and treeform 15:36:03 Xom's chesspiece also ignores treeform 15:36:05 Lasty: it already says non-mindless 15:36:09 wheals: thanks 15:36:40 wheals: btw, any idea what's with the "cancelling due to HUP" messages in blinks? 15:36:59 sounded to me like a switched if 15:37:15 which ability was it with again? 15:38:06 what happens if you telefrag a tentacle 15:38:09 wheals: in _find_cblink_target 15:38:15 -!- Odds_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:38:15 or things like orbs of destruction/etc 15:38:25 orbs of destruction are mindless 15:38:30 hopefully tentacles are too 15:38:33 @??tentacle 15:38:33 tentacle (07w) | Spd: 17 (07stationary) | HD: 12 | HP: 36-56 | AC/EV: 5/7 | Dam: 29 | amphibious, cold-blooded, fly | Res: 13magic(immune), 12drown | XP: 0 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 15:38:35 oh, doesn't work on mindless monsters? 15:38:36 nooope 15:38:39 tentacles r smrt 15:38:52 I should probably exclude 0-xp monsters 15:38:52 so it's happening with ?blink normally on the branch? 15:39:13 wheals: I don't think so, but there's this: 15:39:14 if (crawl_state.seen_hups) 15:39:14 { 15:39:14 mpr("Cancelling blink due to HUP."); 15:39:14 return false; 15:39:14 } 15:39:35 so, which ability was it with again? 15:39:58 line pass was definitely having the issue... 15:40:04 oh, heh 15:40:06 I see why 15:40:10 I think that's from a merge error 15:40:17 but the real question in my mind is, what are hups? 15:40:36 SIGHUP 15:40:40 if you get knocked off a console session, the program receives SIGHUP 15:40:57 ah 15:40:57 it allows a graceful save if you close the ssh window 15:41:02 the name derives from the days of modems (they hung up) 15:41:38 hang no 15:41:42 let me try something 15:42:03 dang it 15:42:19 I tried using grand finale on an electric eel to see if I would drown but I had flying boots on 15:42:52 Lasty: anyway, godabil.cc:6718 is wrong 15:43:02 Lightli: you shouldn't be able to drown yourself w/ it 15:43:03 spell_direction returns false in cases besides a HUP 15:43:23 wheals: yeah, I think that got messed up when I merged this ability from the heavily code-rotted W branch 15:43:54 oh, is this one of W's old abilites? 15:43:58 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:44:04 wheals: yeah 15:44:09 under the name Blend In 15:44:11 ??blend in 15:44:12 blend in[1/1]: Wulndraste ** power. Allows you to instantly move through any series of adjacent monsters, attempting to confuse them in the process. The strength of the confusion scales well with Invocations skill. 15:44:45 I even appropriated the learndb text #reducereuserecycle 15:48:47 ??wulndraste 15:48:47 wulndraste[1/5]: Wulndraste the Wayfarer: god of exploration and not climbing stairs. Used to be an experimental on CBRO. Wulndraste increases your HP/MP and regeneration. Wulndraste offers two powers, {blend_in} and {change_of_scenery}. 15:48:52 ah 15:52:52 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:55:34 -!- Lathuz has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:59:07 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01:36 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 16:07:13 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:11:14 -!- Starbucks has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:12:38 -!- ChongLi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:12:56 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:14:21 03Lasty02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1076-ge21aded: Prevent Grand Finale from crashing when used on targets that don't die (ayayaya) 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 13+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e21adedafe37 16:14:21 03Lasty02 07[combo_god] * 0.18-a0-1077-g6e30d08: Fix silly HUP message (DrKe) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6e30d08e4b70 16:15:32 Experimental (combo_god) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1077-g6e30d08 16:23:37 it's a bool function, so it should just return false 16:23:44 of course because of C++ it works anyway 16:25:15 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:27:34 <|amethyst> if there is a hup, doesn't spell_direction return false 16:27:35 <|amethyst> ? 16:27:46 lol 16:28:37 <|amethyst> (so the if (hups) code is dead now) 16:30:11 |amethyst: no sure 16:30:13 not sure 16:30:57 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:31:33 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:37:46 -!- sorlin has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:41:56 Lasty_: u has only the three active powers, right 16:42:03 stomp, line pass, finale 16:42:41 Lasty: ^ 16:43:10 also, what's U's color (or color scheme) 16:44:07 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 16:44:07 magenta 16:44:23 <|amethyst> etc_incarnadine 16:44:26 <|amethyst> magenta/red 16:44:39 ok 16:44:58 <|amethyst> // Draining clouds coloured like raw flesh 16:45:11 ...interesting 16:46:52 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 16:48:34 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:48:38 -!- kaiza has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:55:10 -!- zeia has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:06:55 !lg dpeg won op 17:06:56 3. dpeg the Infernalist (L27 OpVM of Gozag), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2014-11-17 16:14:00, with 1640711 points after 187421 turns and 9:54:17. 17:07:19 !lg dpeg won op -2 17:07:20 2/3. dpeg the Archmage (L27 OpMo of Vehumet), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2013-08-18 12:05:28, with 1615984 points after 172485 turns and 13:14:35. 17:07:23 !lg dpeg won op -3 17:07:24 1/3. dpeg the Octopus of Death (L27 OpHu of Kikubaaqudgha), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2012-10-24 20:03:34, with 1599600 points after 162672 turns and 11:31:07. 17:08:15 -!- njorth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:12:11 good title 17:12:26 -!- njorth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:12:44 the necro squid!!! 17:12:48 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:12:55 the superior titles though are 17:13:01 !lg * dg sk=necromancy sklev=27 17:13:02 19. InternetKraken the God of Death (L27 DgNe), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2016-01-05 01:36:02, with 17525944 points after 88192 turns and 7:17:30. 17:13:05 !lg * sp sk=necromancy sklev=27 17:13:06 14. MistraI the Petite Mort (L27 SpHu of Ashenzari), mangled by a reaper (a +3 scythe of freezing) (created by the effects of Hell) on Coc:7 (coc_grunt) on 2016-01-30 09:26:04, with 1041915 points after 93683 turns and 7:24:04. 17:13:09 what. 17:13:14 petite mort <3 17:13:21 that used to display correctly in Sequell :( 17:13:23 !lg * sp sk=necromancy sklev=27 1 17:13:24 1/14. Eronarn the Spriggan of Death (L27 SpTm of Kikubaaqudgha), blasted by an orb of fire (bolt of fire) on Zot:5 on 2007-12-24 16:04:07, with 1349828 points after 153764 turns and 1d+9:49:34. 17:13:28 -!- Torax_ has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 17:13:29 !lg * sp sk=necromancy sklev=27 title!~~Death 1 17:13:30 Galehar heritage forever!!! 17:13:30 1/12. mursu La Petite Mort (L27 SpWn of Kikubaaqudgha), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2012-03-16 23:17:54, with 12718243 points after 124964 turns and 1d+10:04:17. 17:13:48 did... someone remove the La? :( 17:14:05 that would be sad and should be fixed 17:14:44 I suspect that was easier than removing the The 17:14:51 well, "the" 17:14:53 %git b62f961 17:14:53 07wheals02 * 0.16-a0-1937-gb62f961: Don't call the player "the La Petite Mort" (PleasingFungus). 10(1 year, 3 months ago, 6 files, 17+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b62f961d50e2 17:14:56 !blame2 wheals 17:14:57 wwwhhheeeaaalllsss 17:15:05 oh 17:15:06 !blame2 wheals 17:15:06 wwwhhheeeaaalllsss 17:15:09 I get it 17:15:14 it's Sequell that's broken now, not the title 17:15:21 * dpeg_ blames along with the best of 'em. 17:17:02 !blame3 Sequell 17:17:03 Seeeeequuuuueeeeell 17:17:38 (what's the sequel to Sequell?) 17:18:57 SequelLI? 17:18:59 To spell Sequell won't go well, you might end up in a well. 17:20:15 ontoclasm: yeah, that's right, three powers 17:20:25 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 17:27:47 -!- maxaitor has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:29:18 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:35:07 -!- noppa354 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:40:58 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:54:49 !lg * sp sk=necromancy sklev=27 -1 17:54:50 14. MistraI the Petite Mort (L27 SpHu of Ashenzari), mangled by a reaper (a +3 scythe of freezing) (created by the effects of Hell) on Coc:7 (coc_grunt) on 2016-01-30 09:26:04, with 1041915 points after 93683 turns and 7:24:04. 17:55:16 !lg * sp sk=necromancy sklev=27 17:55:17 14. MistraI the Petite Mort (L27 SpHu of Ashenzari), mangled by a reaper (a +3 scythe of freezing) (created by the effects of Hell) on Coc:7 (coc_grunt) on 2016-01-30 09:26:04, with 1041915 points after 93683 turns and 7:24:04. 17:55:26 -1 is same as -2 in case you were unaware 17:55:32 er 17:55:37 -1 is same as the most recent 17:55:43 i forgot that we don't just have to support console and tiles and webtiles, there's Sequell too 17:55:45 -1 is the same as -2 in some fields 17:55:52 i bet the fix to Sequell will break the cao pages 17:56:07 SequellOS 17:56:16 commandline uses Sequellese 17:57:46 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:58:18 Seequelle is something like a German word. :) 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:02:14 Welches? 18:03:40 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:05:56 -!- Isvaffel has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:08:22 See = lake, Quelle = spring, so Seequelle = lake spring 18:09:45 hmm 18:09:54 just got an interesting randart name 18:10:27 dpeg_: neat 18:10:27 Axaaxas mlo 18:10:33 *Axaxaxas 18:10:41 dpeg_: another example of those infamous German compound words? 18:10:58 Like geschirrspülmaschine 18:12:26 also the o has the double dots on top of it 18:12:35 I wasn't aware the randart name generator could use those characters 18:12:54 oh, and the second word isn't capitalized 18:12:59 so it is lower case m 18:13:10 Grunt: I got your bent corner vault my last game 18:13:37 I think a big old shrike pack, I must have fought 7 of them, and I want to say two iron giants 18:13:43 it might have been only one in that vault 18:13:51 !log . 18:13:52 3568. gammafunk, XL25 GrWn, T:62443: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/gammafunk/morgue-gammafunk-20160131-174257.txt 18:13:56 CanOfWorms: is it a book on the floor? 18:14:13 gammafunk: yes, they rock. Kraftfahrzeughaftpflichtversicherung, Nahrungsmittelunverträglichkeit, ... .) 18:14:14 yeah just one in the vault, the other was a different vault 18:14:18 yes 18:14:18 there's a vault that generates weirdass book names, i dunno why 18:14:22 ah 18:14:25 that would explain it 18:14:31 I just picked up Ts'ui Pen 18:14:33 with a ^ on the e 18:16:31 gammafunk: but Seequelle is only two, quite normal by our standards. 18:16:45 yeah 18:17:05 <|amethyst> The names of books in that vault are all references to Jorge Luis Borges 18:17:19 lotta Borges references in crawl 18:17:24 c.f. Asterion 18:17:35 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 18:17:58 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:18:00 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:18:18 <|amethyst> (most of those books are titles of books in "The Library of Babel", but "The Book of Sand" is another short story, and Ts'ui Pên is from "The Garden of Forking Paths" 18:18:21 <|amethyst> ) 18:18:38 are they from Brendan (bh)? 18:18:44 <|amethyst> yes, of course :) 18:19:40 nice to have some literate people on the team (I've never read any Borges) 18:20:27 -!- octolad has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:20:27 -!- infrashortfoo_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:20:32 -!- dracos369 has quit [Client Quit] 18:23:33 -!- johlstei has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:24:00 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 18:24:06 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:24:20 -!- djanatyn has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 18:24:22 -!- twzt has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:24:35 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 18:24:48 -!- eki has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:24:48 -!- _sk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:25:30 -!- Mandevil has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:26:06 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:26:15 -!- swisschard has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:26:16 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 18:26:33 -!- herself has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:26:33 -!- Wensley_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:26:35 -!- necKro23 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:27:15 -!- lukano has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:31:07 bug: the MP bar glitches up if your max MP is reduced to 0 18:31:10 -!- atomicthumbs has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:32:52 Lasty: Ru powers actually did something pretty nice my last game, prevented me from having to fight a Grunt Monster (tm) 18:32:59 paralyzed an iron giant 18:33:07 gammafunk: you're welcome! 18:33:20 my 2x Ru and 2x Gr are complete 18:33:24 no longer have to do either 18:33:44 some day all you'll have left to do is DESu^Ely 18:33:55 Ely is pretty fun these days! 18:33:58 er, sif 18:34:07 and Sif is the most fun god, of course 18:34:20 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 18:34:22 MuSu of sif first 18:34:31 is there a Sequell command to get macro file? 18:34:32 Most fun undead species with the most fun background with the most fun god 18:34:34 ¯o 18:34:43 -!- Wensley is now known as Guest74481 18:34:44 hrm, no but you can replace that in the url 18:34:47 &rc . 18:34:49 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/gammafunk.rc 18:34:53 replace with .macro iirc 18:34:54 what's the extension? 18:34:56 ta 18:34:57 or .macros 18:34:57 &rc 18:34:59 https://crawl.project357.org/rc-files/trunk/chequers.rc 18:35:17 .macro it seems 18:35:56 I wonder.. 18:36:13 !lg * current crace=gh|vp|mu s=crace% 18:36:15 27660 games for * (current crace=gh|vp|mu): 15088x Mummy (54.55%), 7960x Vampire (28.78%), 4612x Ghoul (16.67%) 18:36:19 I figured as much 18:36:59 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:37:13 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:37:19 !lg * current crace=hu|he|dg|de s=crace% 18:37:22 56658 games for * (current crace=hu|he|dg|de): 22783x Deep Elf (40.21%), 15884x High Elf (28.03%), 11419x Human (20.15%), 6572x Demigod (11.60%) 18:38:41 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:39:24 -!- necKro23 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:39:31 03dpeg02 07* 0.18-a0-1204-g690a290: Add some god speech lines. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 28+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/690a290abe2c 18:40:28 @@ Gozag says: This prayer may be monitored for quality assurance. 18:40:32 sigh 18:41:21 Only money gety you out of stagnation and depression. 18:41:25 a typo, a typo! 18:41:58 Gozag says: I want my money back! 18:42:42 some of those do seem a bit questionable yes 18:42:50 the previously existing gozag ones that is 18:43:40 -!- atomicthumbs has joined ##crawl-dev 18:46:13 Grunt: that is a classic Thatcher line, in case you don't know the reference 18:46:40 I don't even know who added the hotline ones. :) 18:46:48 (I did.) 18:47:03 (back before dpeg started writing them himself!) 18:47:11 gotta have some neoliberal quotes for the neoliberal god :) 18:47:40 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.18-a0-1205-gc79f12c: Remove some god speech lines, fix typo (CanOfWorms) 10(7 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c79f12ce7a51 18:47:53 MarvinPA: ah, too fast! 18:49:15 I had the typo fix commited but not yet pushed. What now? 18:50:15 dpeg_: you're on master and you have no other extra commits on master locally? 18:51:03 yes 18:51:10 in that case, 18:51:21 git fetch && git reset --hard origin/master 18:52:07 MarvinPA: I will never understand these finer points of English: I pondered between "Won't you die on me yet" and "Don't you die on me yet". Is the former wrong or does is just sound strange? 18:52:30 the former sounds like a question 18:52:40 the former isn't quite right, yeah - you could say "i won't let you die on me yet" 18:53:04 thanks for explanation, this is quite subtle for me 18:53:53 -!- atomicthumbs has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:54:03 -!- Jamo__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:54:44 "won't you die on me yet" makes it sound like you're begging them to die 18:54:53 like "just die already" 18:55:21 fascinating :) 18:57:41 ?/ust die already 18:57:41 Matching entries (1): evilmike[3]: -- Just die already! 18:57:50 "Beogh swears eternal hatred towards atheism." is a good potential speech line 18:58:01 ! 18:58:33 at least i think "atheism" is what @player_god@ gives with no god, i forget if it changed at some point 18:59:32 Beogh swears eternal hatred towards the meaning of life! 18:59:33 MarvinPA: is there a historical background for that line (just curious)? 18:59:50 ah, I see what you mean 18:59:53 i'm not sure where it came from but it's from when you destroy one of beogh's idols, so possibly it's quite an old one 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:16 yes, just saw it... and you want to check if it works vs atheists 19:00:16 also good trout species: w:2 a kilgore 19:00:31 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 19:00:59 yeah, i think it should and it's just a fun result if so 19:01:11 yes 19:01:12 -!- atomicthumbs has joined ##crawl-dev 19:01:21 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.18-a0-1206-g2bec475: Tweak some more god speech lines 10(7 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2bec4758ae73 19:03:32 -"On second thought, though..." 19:03:33 +"On second thoughts, though..." 19:03:37 this sounds incorrect to me 19:03:45 yeah, i would say "on second thought" 19:03:47 huh, really? 19:03:55 ditto 19:03:58 maybe that's an american vs british english thing then, sounds wrong to me the other way around 19:04:04 I've never once heard "on second thoughts" 19:04:25 oh, true, i bet it's british 19:04:27 which raises the question 19:04:31 is it correct Australian 19:04:33 >.> 19:04:52 * Lasty summons the Linley to consult. 19:04:53 luckily i usually manage to get away with things like that because british and australian english tend to match up, yes :P 19:05:02 -!- twzt has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:05:55 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:06:58 -!- noppa354 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:07:57 you could also say "i'm having second thoughts about that" which seems like it only works with it being plural, is that phrasing used in american english? 19:08:08 yeah 19:08:15 dunno why they're different 19:08:31 "murrcans" 19:09:00 -!- octolad has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:09:23 "on second thoughts though" - totally fine NZ english which is pretty close to aussie 19:09:35 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:10:41 -!- royiv___ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:10:48 -!- royiv__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:11:15 -!- mekhami has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:14:02 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:15:13 -!- sorlin has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:15:15 -!- lukano has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:16:07 -!- atomicthumbs has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:19:48 hey, is there any particular reason that spells have to be put on actual letters? 19:19:54 i've actually heard it both ways 19:19:57 rather than, say, numbers or commas 19:20:01 re: on seconds thoughts 19:20:23 i've heard it said both ways but i don't think i've ever heard a native american english speaker say 'on second thoughts' 19:21:37 Lasty: ukayaw is too close to okawaru imo 19:21:53 ukayawu 19:21:53 <.< 19:21:54 ontoclasm: yeah, a few people have mentioned that. It's probably true. 19:21:58 unless they are like... sisters by the ~lore~ 19:22:03 Ukelele 19:22:06 I might have to rename 19:22:09 it is a dance-related god after all 19:22:32 Lasty: name it after a KPOP band 19:23:01 and in the release announcement for 0.19 we can have a music video 19:23:11 S is already taken, so I can't do SMAP 19:23:27 Sif Makh Ash Pak 19:23:30 what a band that would be 19:23:31 <.< 19:24:35 Lasty: my suggestion was just "U" 19:24:51 Wombat 19:25:00 i mean, sure it's an actual word 19:25:03 so we can't have that 19:25:16 but he's the cuddly kamikaze dance god that everyone loves! 19:25:48 -!- sorlin has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:25:49 ontoclasm: so I add Ru, then U, and then a god with no name at all? 19:27:00 let bcadren come up with some silence flavor for it =p 19:27:41 19:27:47 -!- fallenxxxsky has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:27:52 /say 19:27:53 19:27:54 ! 19:34:17 -!- atomicthumbs has joined ##crawl-dev 19:37:26 Lasty: yep 19:37:33 _ 19:37:53 You offer a prayer to [GOD_NAME_NOT_FOUND]. 19:38:16 [GOD_] 19:39:37 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/u_stomp.png 19:39:43 anh, not sure on that 19:43:20 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:43:40 -!- _sk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:44:07 u_stomp 19:44:19 it's the hip new app for your iphone or android device! 19:44:31 stompr? 19:44:35 nono 19:44:39 that's totally different 19:45:06 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:45:08 that's where you link up with people to stomp 19:46:20 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:47:39 -!- zeia has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1] 19:48:59 -!- eb_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:50:05 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:50:55 -!- miek_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:52:10 -!- Dixlet has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:52:44 -!- miek_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:58:03 ontoclasm: the boot could use detail, but the radial sparkles are fine. 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:19 oh, it's the same boot from like 20:00:20 leda's 20:00:35 a bunch of spell/invo icons have those grey silhouette things 20:00:52 (not that they couldn't be more detailed, of course) 20:05:23 -!- ebarrett_ has quit [] 20:05:32 oh fair nuff 20:05:43 I hadn't noticed -- I don't do tiles much 20:06:12 -!- aviatrice has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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Got replies by Lasty and by bcadren so far. 22:24:50 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:25:01 Naruni: I cannot tell you how to access them by browser, but I hear it is possible. 22:25:17 ugh yes i dont have subscription to the list 22:26:14 Grunt: would it makes sense to blog these mails? Not sure if it's worth the trouble, but it'd give discussion a little more exposure. OTOH, everyone who's screaming on the forum would come screaming into c-r-d, so maybe not a good idea. 22:26:43 is it entitled charms? 22:26:49 yes! 22:26:54 ok ill read it 22:27:07 dpeg_: a summary during / afterwards probably makes the most sense 22:27:12 yes 22:27:20 Naruni: feel free to discuss here, I'll be around for some more minutes 22:28:24 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 22:29:35 well i did just win a game using chei so i agree haste is not required to win the game 22:30:08 stoneskin removal huh 22:30:14 by this measure, very little is *required* to win... I head people win with melee characters using clubs or scythes :) 22:30:21 *hear 22:30:37 the -1 club of healing 22:30:39 honestly i think rmsl and dmsl should be air magic. the basic logic is almost undeniable 22:30:49 is the lack of bad runics intentional 22:31:00 zapping a missile out of the air? its air magic! 22:31:02 FIQ: don't grok 22:31:18 or double-edged ones 22:31:18 Naruni: that is besides the point (at least, my point) 22:31:19 (which are much more interesting than strictly bad ones) 22:31:20 grok? 22:31:23 oh, dpeg 22:31:34 I wanted to point out that you can currently get RMsl through Q 22:31:47 there's several ways to get RMsl 22:31:48 Grunt: that's a god, so it is fine 22:31:55 ??C-r-d 22:31:55 c-r-d[1/2]: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/crawl-ref-discuss 22:31:55 yes 22:32:04 Grunt: the *spell* is problematic, not the effect 22:32:07 just pointing out that we do have other ways to get it besides the spell right now :) 22:32:15 dpeg_, what is the bottom line of your point? to remove charms altogether and repurpose spells or to remove the charms spells? 22:32:17 repel missiles (duh), repulsion field (only viable on Ds roulette), amulet of the air, qazlal 22:32:29 Grunt, I think dpeg_'s issue is with how RMsl the spell works 22:32:30 Naruni: yes. Can you read my mail? 22:32:35 anyway 22:32:35 it's level 2, so easy to learn 22:32:37 the point I'm making is 22:32:39 and it's basically permanent 22:32:40 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:32:45 we don't necessarily need to add any more 22:32:52 until it ends up dissipating 22:32:58 (there was a suggestion that it turn into an item ego) 22:33:12 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 22:33:13 Grunt: yes. I wasn't joking when I suggested to move removed buffs to stand-your-ground god 22:33:22 hm 22:33:35 I wonder if I still have my patch to make the unrand Shroud of Golubria 22:33:40 Grunt: feel free to reply to my mail, makes me feel less like I am talking to myself on the list :) 22:33:44 it would work considerably better if the spell doesn't exist ;) 22:33:55 so remvoe the spell, make an unrand 22:33:57 I prefer hammering out thoughts in chat for whatever reason. 22:33:58 I guess 22:34:11 don't think shroud is used much anyway 22:34:23 shroud is abused frequently by characters who have access to it 22:35:16 -!- Sage1234 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:36:26 I do feel like charm removal would have some...significant balance concerns 22:36:29 dpeg_, yes ive read it. what i see from your proposal of stage 1 (removing the charms school) is spells being re-assigned until they are removed. if that is the case, it is my opinion that you guys look at the entire application of multi-school spells. 22:37:27 Lightli: exactly, that's my point 22:37:34 personally, i love regeneration. it doesn't belong in necromancy IMO, but it's not that big of a deal. what makes that spell great is i need 2 schools i usually would not train to get it up 22:37:42 I am trying to propose simple changes (in the sense of work) with maximal effect. 22:38:05 if charms are remmoved as a school, are the remaining spells going to become single-school spells? 22:38:31 our choice 22:38:59 on Regeneration: I always loved the Nec flavour of it... for example, it's non-standard. 22:39:01 well for one i like the idea of swiftness, giving characters movement speed but not action speed is very good IMO 22:39:24 OTOH, we have added a *lot* of Regen items recently, and the spell is as problematic as the rest I am talking about 22:39:47 Naruni: yes, that is a good idea, but it is hard to come up with ideas as good for every single buff 22:40:06 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:40:10 dpeg_, yes i just had a game where i found a magic regen amulet with a staff of energy, i ended up winning quite easy with that combo. 22:40:10 I am interested in a simple solution for a big issue (imo). 22:40:30 magic regen amulet is the bomb, thanks for whoever brought that in 22:40:52 I feel like something of this magnitude should probably get an experimental branch at the very least 22:41:23 so a couple ideas, we could place every spell with the charms tag under the same idea of rmsl and dmsl 22:41:35 they wont expire time unless there is a conflict about 22:41:41 Lightli: atm it's nothing but a discussion. You couldn't even say the proposal got a lot of traction. Two and a half devs have spoken in favour of the principal idea. 22:42:02 Naruni: that is solving the interface but not the balance issue 22:42:03 yeah, but if it does go forward 22:42:46 as far as the balance, i clearly accept your point of view that haste is the worst offender 22:43:21 but speed of action makes up the very mechanics of almost every game 22:44:00 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:44:21 just a brainstorm, maybe action speed should be a trainable skill? 22:44:23 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 22:44:50 -!- maldini has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:44:57 that seems like it'd be really really hard to balance 22:45:06 Naruni: speed buff is maybe okay as an in-game effect, but I never liked it as a spell. It's been nerfed several times already. But I brought up Haste spell removal a few times, and some devs were against it. 22:45:14 i dont see why a very experienced ogre clubbing you to death faster than a baby ogre should be any different than a highly experienced deep elf zapping your balls off super fast 22:45:15 -!- ProzacElf_ is now known as ProzacElf 22:45:29 Naruni: no realism in balance discussion 22:46:06 what i mean is, we can currently train speed of action based solely on weapons, not spells. why is this? 22:46:13 <|amethyst> Naruni: the difference is that increasing weapon skill only improves damage slightly 22:46:13 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 22:46:30 <|amethyst> whereas improving spellpower with spell skill increases damage a lot 22:47:07 Naruni: think of it as a mechanic to distinguish light/heavy weapons (and note there is only one skill to use for balance) 22:47:52 then why is the speed of spellcasting not involved in these balances? 22:47:54 <|amethyst> and the difference between a low-level weapon and a high-level weapon (spear vs bardiche for example) is less than the difference for spells (magic dart vs LCS) 22:48:08 <|amethyst> no principled reason, it just never happened that way 22:48:13 true 22:48:43 I feel like at the very least something should be done about ozo's armour 22:49:18 I normally don't care about buffs at all but I still try to keep it up at all times because of how incredibly powerful it is 22:49:37 !log . rune=15 won 22:49:37 Unknown field: rune 22:49:40 I just sent another email to c-r-d, with an even more basic suggestion. Feel free to reply on the list, I need to sleep (5 am over here). 22:49:54 cya dpeg_ 22:50:02 Lightli: that is natural behaviour and despisable design 22:50:22 !log . xrune=15 22:50:23 Unknown field: xrune 22:50:36 !log . defe nrune=15 won 22:50:38 3. darkli, XL27 DEFE, T:146647: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/darkli/morgue-darkli-20150728-031602.txt 22:51:12 like in non-3 rune games I usually never bother learning haste 22:51:23 and if I do I only use it as an escape button rather than a combat buff 22:53:15 |amethyst, what do you think about a model of spellcasting speed based off the current model of weapon combat speed? 22:53:39 fighting = no speed increase, spellcasting = no speed increase. 22:54:37 Lightli: ozoarmour is simultaneously the worst offender and the most-cited charm we "ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE" 22:56:05 please kill it so my sanity can be salvaged; a lot of the time when I do IE I basically have to keep it up at all times and never leave armor that can't work with it because of the ridiculous amount of AC it gives 22:56:54 skill short blades for a light damage dagger at 10 makes min delay, but for a rapier skill 14 takes min delay 22:57:27 i mean, it's true that it's a hilariously huge part of ~~caster defences~~ but i dunno what to do about that 22:57:29 Naruni: I think to convince anyone of non-1-aut spellcasting, you need to make a case for why it would be better 22:58:20 Naruni: specifically one thing I really like about 1-aut spellcasting is that actions take a known amount of time. The way energy works is quite opaque and random to the player, especially new players "i attacked the orc and the bee moved from two spaces away AND stung me!!" 22:59:33 chequers, yeah spellcasting holds a lot more variable numbers as far as damage goes, but like i said speed of action is a crucial aspect of every game 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:33 dpeg_ brings up a good point, he wants to see something changed and i agree with some of it 23:00:52 what I mean is, I don't see how "speed of action is a crucial aspect" leads to "variable speed of action is better" though 23:01:30 maybe casters shouldn't have easy access to defenses on par with those of several melee characters 23:02:05 -!- roadmap has joined ##crawl-dev 23:03:54 -!- Floodkiller has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:04:14 Lightli: that's my thought but i know several people who would disagree 23:04:47 i mean, right now a robe is actually a better defensive outfit than plate mail in many ways 23:04:57 chequers, please remember in this channel everything i say is IMHO... i think gaming patterns have shown that players who can commit acts more than the entities that try to prevent their victory in game win more than the inverse shows that making the speed of action relative to the player's environment an aspect to address 23:05:20 ontoclasm: Actually replace plate armour with PDA 23:05:46 plate mail has big downsides wrt spellcasting and stelath, and in exchange you get... basically the same defence as a robe guy who knows ozo's 23:05:51 i mean, shanking a goblin to death with a .5 speed dagger is awesome 23:06:04 don't forget EV penalties 23:06:10 slugging out that same goblin with a 1.4 mace or something sucks 23:06:16 well yeah 23:06:29 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 23:07:09 so is the design of the game to be that fighting with weapons makes you inflict damage faster, and the fighting with magic results in more damage being done at the same speed? 23:07:28 if so, why does it have to be restricted like that? 23:07:38 honestly I do feel like phase shift is probably the best designed of the EV boost things, just because of the very short duration 23:07:55 <|amethyst> it doesn't have to be, but you've offered no reason to do it other than "it would be cool" and "it would make casters more powerful" 23:08:06 <|amethyst> it's a pretty massive change to balance 23:08:29 |amethyst, yeah i agree i haven't givent any valid reasons, im just brainstorming off of dpeg_'s mail 23:08:30 <|amethyst> we have enough things that actually need to be fixed that making such a destabilizing change just for the hell of it is very low on the list of priorities 23:09:07 <|amethyst> I thought dpeg's email was about charms and how they make for horrible interface and gameplay? 23:09:38 ...storms tend to go to strange places 23:10:17 In light of this I'd like to re-raise my proposal for artifact clubs 23:10:36 because come on, you stick a ruby in a club and it would be an artifact club, this a) makes sense b) is cool 23:11:00 c) is diablo 23:11:02 <|amethyst> implement artefact clubs then give them to Yiuf instead of hammer 23:11:03 <|amethyst> s 23:11:06 <|amethyst> s/hammer/mace/ 23:11:09 |amethyst: my emails are about that 23:11:24 I tried to give iuf artifact hammers once... 23:11:35 of course, discourse here goes all over the place :) 23:15:57 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:20:16 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 23:22:05 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 23:23:35 from tavern: "I decide to finally play trunk even though amulet of harm has not been removed yet..." 23:23:43 -!- dpeg_ has quit [Quit: sleep] 23:27:16 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:34:50 Lightli: i might like phase shift if it were a very big boost for like... 5 turns 23:35:07 so that keeping it up continuously is completely unfeasible 23:35:37 +8 is already a pretty large jump, how much higher would you want it? 23:35:51 maybe just like +10 23:36:01 and maybe one level lower or something 23:36:13 -!- Jamo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:36:52 i'm okay with buffs you use when danger appears, i just don't like ones you keep on while walking around because, hey, danger -might- appear 23:37:02 -!- vev has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:37:37 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:38:38 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 23:41:27 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 23:42:00 ontoclasm, so we're talking primarily about rmsl dmsl swiftness and haste right? 23:47:12 keeping on charms all the time is kind of pointless 23:47:20 whenever you recast them youre basically in precombat phase 23:47:30 (except *msl because the game lets you) 23:50:16 -!- maldini has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:54:14 -!- Zannick has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:57:42 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1206-g2bec475 (34) 23:59:14 ??phase shift 23:59:14 phase shift[1/1]: A L5 Translocations spell that gives you +8 EV while active. 23:59:27 +8 EV hm 23:59:30 that's quite a bit