00:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:03:01 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:03:48 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 00:04:42 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 00:06:30 hm 00:06:41 |amethyst: want to help me fix some questionable c 00:07:37 wait, nvm 00:08:48 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:10:58 -!- lobf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:11:26 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:11:27 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:11:36 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:13:00 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 00:13:39 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 00:14:06 .doomed 00:14:07 14. laz the Meteorologist (L27 DEWz of Sif Muna), slain by a doom hound on Zig:25 on 2016-01-18 08:18:51, with 1040988 points after 75710 turns and 4:24:11. 00:14:17 .doomed s=br 00:14:18 14 games for * (ikiller=doom_hound): 5x Zig, 3x Tar, 3x Hell, 2x Depths, Elf 00:15:09 - Doom hounds, demonic canines lurking in Tartarus who can howl once to 00:15:09 create a pack of nasty creatures. 00:15:22 updating it due to the howl change 00:15:36 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:17:28 god, there are just too many commits 00:19:08 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:19:50 that's what we get for leaving it for over a month... 00:19:57 .doomed -2 00:19:58 13/14. radinms the Conqueror (L27 FoFi of Zin), demolished by a doom hound on Tar:7 (tar_grunt_cathedral) on 2016-01-10 14:54:11, with 1207911 points after 112307 turns and 7:06:24. 00:20:00 .doomed -3 00:20:01 12/14. Engine the Slayer (L27 DrFi of Okawaru), slain by a doom hound on Tar:2 on 2016-01-10 02:27:57, with 743936 points after 75405 turns and 7:32:44. 00:20:03 .doomed -4 00:20:04 11/14. aababc the Ruinous (L27 DrFE of Vehumet), demolished by a doom hound on Depths:2 (grunt_profane_halls; grunt_profane_temple_geh) on 2016-01-06 10:27:26, with 664378 points after 75222 turns and 9:53:37. 00:20:09 huh 00:20:11 .doomed -5 00:20:12 10/14. EnterQ the Slayer (L27 FoFi of Okawaru), mangled by a doom hound on Zig:7 on 2016-01-02 05:18:05, with 761255 points after 112752 turns and 5:10:32. 00:20:28 !lg * ikiller="doom hound" s=killer 00:20:29 14 games for * (ikiller='doom hound'): 14x a doom hound 00:20:33 hm 00:20:46 did I not set blame... 00:23:10 maybe not 00:24:16 oops 00:24:19 imo you should fix it. 00:24:23 @??deep_elf_high_priest 00:24:24 deep elf high priest (09e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 11 | HP: 38-59 | AC/EV: 4/12 | Dam: 14 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest, evil, unholy, see invisible | Res: 06magic(80) | Vul: 08holy, 11silver | XP: 1041 | Sp: a.brilliance [11!AM], sum.demon [11!AM], hellfire burst (3d15) [11!AM], malign offering (2d17) [11!AM], smiting (7-17) [11!AM], twisted resurrection [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int:.. 00:25:14 Want to hear a weird story? I woke up this morning and forgot all the C++ I ever knew. The doctors are calling it Objective Amnesia and want to study me further. 00:25:24 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:25:37 is this an objective c joke... 00:26:35 just saying why I'm reduced to feeble changelog updates only 00:26:50 %git 19433d8af817667251fcd782702b0bc9bfd66a9c 00:26:51 07Grunt02 * 0.18-a0-862-g19433d8: Monster spell: Aura of Brilliance, for deep elf high priests. 10(3 months ago, 11 files, 131+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/19433d8af817 00:26:56 I guess that did get merged 00:27:05 oh 00:27:11 it's right there in monster, just didn't see it 00:32:05 right there all along.. 00:32:07 ty for doing this, btw 00:32:09 it's a noble task 00:37:15 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:37:28 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:38:15 ??aura of brilliance 00:38:16 I don't have a page labeled aura_of_brilliance in my learndb. 00:38:31 !kw mangled 00:38:31 No keyword 'mangled' 00:38:34 ??mangled 00:38:34 mangled[1/2]: You had less than -5 hp when you died. 00:38:40 ??demolished 00:38:40 demolished[1/1]: You had from -14 to -21 hit points when you died. 00:38:57 ??annihilated 00:38:57 annihilated[1/1]: You had -22 hp or less when you died. Parts of you are all over the dungeon. 00:41:57 -!- Suga_H has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:44:33 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:44:46 !learn edit mangled s/$/ See also {demolished} and {annihilated}/ 00:44:46 Use: !learn edit mangled[NUM] s/// 00:44:57 !learn edit mangled[1] s/$/ See also {demolished} and {annihilated}/ 00:44:57 mangled[1/2]: You had less than -5 hp when you died. See also {demolished} and {annihilated} 00:45:00 ??mangled[2 00:45:00 mangled[2/2]: Means corpse can't leave a hide if butchered. Guaranteed on Kiku corpses; also used in some vault placements. 00:45:21 !learn edit demolished[1] s/$/ See also {mangled} and {annihilated}/ 00:45:21 demolished[1/1]: You had from -14 to -21 hit points when you died. See also {mangled} and {annihilated} 00:45:37 !learn edit annihilated[1] s/$/ See also {mangled} and {demolished}./ 00:45:38 annihilated[1/1]: You had -22 hp or less when you died. Parts of you are all over the dungeon. See also {mangled} and {demolished}. 00:45:49 !learn edit demolished[1] s/$/./ 00:45:49 demolished[1/1]: You had from -14 to -21 hit points when you died. See also {mangled} and {annihilated}. 00:45:52 !learn edit mangled[1] s/$/./ 00:45:53 mangled[1/2]: You had less than -5 hp when you died. See also {demolished} and {annihilated}. 00:50:56 Remove an outdated description of entropy weave. Their chant has been accelerated... :clock1::clock2::clock4::clock8: 00:51:02 can you believe these commit messages 00:51:09 -!- timvisher has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:51:37 -!- flappity_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:54:08 %git 7a7945507 00:54:08 07kilobyte02 * 0.11-a0-2093-g7a79455: Make some functions static/gone. 10(3 years, 8 months ago, 19 files, 2601+ 2714-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7a7945507d92 00:54:14 gammafunk: absolutely not. 00:54:36 agh, won't show me the diff 00:58:22 @??wasp 00:58:22 wasp (08y) | Spd: 15 | HD: 4 | HP: 18-26 | AC/EV: 5/14 | Dam: 1304(paralyse) | fly | Res: 06magic(20) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 126 | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 00:58:24 oh 00:58:26 @??hornet 00:58:26 hornet (05y) | Spd: 15 | HD: 8 | HP: 36-52 | AC/EV: 7/14 | Dam: 2304(paralyse) | fly | Res: 06magic(40) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 541 | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 00:59:29 %git 96759db5360e90631c6a789dfa6f320e91a71037 00:59:29 07MarvinPA02 * 0.18-a0-1114-g96759db: Give wasp paralysis/slowing the normal chance to bypass rPois 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 11+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/96759db5360e 00:59:30 -!- timbabwe has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:59:39 man 00:59:42 someone fucked this up a long time ago 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:48 ok 01:00:53 good, this is a real bug, not my bug. 01:02:52 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1126-ga2d7f46 (34) 01:05:52 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 01:07:41 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 01:09:52 hm 01:10:02 what's the intended interaction with sealed doors and disint 01:10:13 there's code to support disint blowing them up, but that code path can't fire 01:13:24 ?died 01:13:30 ?died 01:13:32 derp 01:13:32 what 01:14:05 I was looking at the mangled/demolished/annihilated 01:14:13 ??died 01:14:13 died ~ dis[1/2]: One of the hell branches. You can find Dispater with his nice staff at the end. Also home of the Iron Rune. Look out for hellions, fiends, hell sentinels, brimstone fiends, and ice fiends. 01:14:17 appropos 01:15:35 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:15:37 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:17:55 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1126-ga2d7f46 (34) 01:19:22 03gammafunk02 07* 0.18-a0-1127-g794a599: Update the changelog 10(66 seconds ago, 1 file, 61+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/794a5991d5c9 01:19:30 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:24:58 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:27:46 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1128-g8f71077: Fix an obscure summon forest bug 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 13+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8f7107766139 01:28:16 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:28:39 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:29:47 hm 01:30:07 !lg * ikiller=druid 01:30:08 No games for * (ikiller=druid). 01:30:13 !lg * ikiller="spriggan druid" 01:30:14 1273. NeilGaiman the Devastator (L15 DEFE of Vehumet), blasted by a spriggan druid (angry trees) on Swamp:2 on 2016-01-19 14:36:49, with 86962 points after 28200 turns and 2:06:08. 01:30:22 !lg * ikiller="spriggan druid" killer!="spriggan druid" 01:30:23 453. pinm the Blocker (L17 FoFi of Gozag), slain by a five-headed hydra (called by a spriggan druid) on Swamp:4 (swamp_alternative) on 2016-01-19 12:21:17, with 120862 points after 25106 turns and 1:03:18. 01:30:47 gammafunk: do you know how ikiller works? 01:30:54 ??help 01:30:54 help[1/5]: !help (I need somebody) !help (not just anybody) Try https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/docs/listgame.md or https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/docs/learndb.md 01:31:40 not internally, no, I've never looked. I have only taken of it and consumed it and enjoyed the delicious player deaths it contains. 01:32:57 trying to figure out what I need to do to get it working 01:33:01 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 01:37:33 looks like 01:37:37 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:37:40 const CrawlVector& blame = mons->props["blame"].get_vector(); 01:37:40 indirectkiller = blame[blame.size() - 1].get_string(); 01:37:55 PleasingFungus: ^ have you seen that? 01:38:04 yes 01:38:04 I'm not sure how to test this 01:38:14 I don't recall what to compile to generate the right entries 01:38:14 well I think it would show in the morgue 01:38:24 the blame shows up, but idk what the ikiller is 01:38:36 it comes from the next to last blame entry 01:38:42 !lg * ikiller="spriggan druid" x=ikiller 01:38:43 1273. [ikiller=a spriggan druid] NeilGaiman the Devastator (L15 DEFE of Vehumet), blasted by a spriggan druid (angry trees) on Swamp:2 on 2016-01-19 14:36:49, with 86962 points after 28200 turns and 2:06:08. 01:38:46 ok, good 01:38:52 gammafunk: I know that. that's not a test! 01:39:13 PleasingFungus: no I mean, currently if you die to a doom hound summon, the morgue won't show this? 01:39:20 in the kill line at the top 01:39:24 currently it won't. I have a patch that fixes it. 01:39:33 but, I don't know if this patch also fixes ikiller. 01:39:36 so if you make it set the blame and you see it show in the morgue 01:39:37 I want to test the latter. 01:39:46 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:39:50 feh. 01:39:55 yeah if you want an absolute test I suppose not, but looking at that and the other instances 01:39:55 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:40:21 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1129-gfe03852: Blame doom hounds 10(27 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fe03852c78d3 01:40:25 PleasingFungus: I can't see any other assignment to that field in the scorefile_entry 01:40:33 'absolute test' 01:40:34 feh~! 01:40:34 that looks like it's setting indirectkiller 01:40:41 yes, it certainly does 01:41:13 although there is 01:41:13 if (indirectkiller.empty()) 01:41:14 indirectkiller = death_source_name; 01:41:21 I guess that's just the fallback when it's empty 01:41:35 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:41:36 Can we just treat conjecture as fact and call it a night? 01:42:23 hiscores_print_all() 01:42:28 oh interesting, blame just gets added when the thing is created in general 01:43:12 ENCH_HAUNTING 01:43:20 how spooky 01:43:50 but yeah, you don't really want to test that unless you feel like setting up a local ...oh 01:43:57 you could just look at the log file 01:44:11 where 01:44:14 saves/logfile 01:44:19 sorry, I'm dumb and forgot 01:44:22 how things work 01:44:28 I don't see anything of the sort 01:44:41 hrm, no logfile or scores? 01:44:47 do you have any games played in that copy? 01:44:58 you have to die once, or finish a game at least 01:45:15 and maybe the Mac version saves them somewhere else 01:45:18 let me test right quit 01:45:18 oh, wizmode 01:45:52 I should add SCORE_WIZARD_CHARACTERS=Y to my default config 01:50:10 wtf, that didn't work 01:52:24 v=0.18-a0:vlong=0.18-a0-1129-gfe03852:lv=0.1:name=test:race=Human:cls=Berserker:char=HuBe:xl=1:sk=Axes:sklev=3:title=Chopper:place=D::1:br=D:lvl=1:absdepth=1:hp=-2:mhp=18:mmhp=18:mp=1:mmp=1:bmmp=1:str=17:int=7:dex=12:ac=2:ev=12:sh=0:god=Trog:start=20160020005142S:dur=10:turn=11:aut=110:kills=0:status=doom howling:gold=0:goldfound=0:goldspent=0:scrollsused=0:potionsused=0:sc=0:ktyp=mon:killer=a shadow 01:52:30 dragon:dam=5:sdam=5:tdam=7:ikiller=a doom hound:kpath=called by a doom hound:piety=35:end=20160020005157S:map=minmay_arrival_doors_test 01:52:33 looks good 01:52:52 had to add one to a minmay vault and then remove all other entry vaults, since chance didn't do it 01:52:53 oh, it's not a flag 01:52:55 ugh 01:53:00 not a command-line flag, anyway 01:53:04 anyway, hooray! 01:53:12 and thankfully it summoned a shadow dragon which thankfully (and mercifully) killed me 01:53:15 haha 01:53:16 a happy ending 01:53:21 ty for help, apologies for any grumpiness 01:53:24 not a good mood today 01:53:25 np 01:54:01 !source AppHdr.h:393 01:54:01 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/AppHdr.h#l393 01:54:53 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1128-g8f71077 01:55:15 fucking hell, even uncommenting that and recompiling didn't work 01:55:17 I give up 01:55:28 oh, might just be broken then 01:55:29 not that it matters, since gammafunk already tested what I was trying to do, but...! 01:55:32 it SHOULD work 01:55:37 I was looking at the code which references it 01:55:46 hrm, maybe because 01:55:46 feh, feh, feh! 01:55:46 wizmode is a ktype now? 01:55:50 so what would that even do 01:55:54 no 01:56:09 the "are you sure you want to enter wizmode" prompt is in #ifndef SCORE_WIZARD_CHARACTERS blocks 01:56:20 but I still got it even after recompiling with that define uncommented 01:56:27 i'm mad 01:56:40 f e h. 01:56:41 oh probably others just set it 01:56:44 other make args 01:56:47 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 43.0.4/20160105164030]] 01:56:49 er other defines 01:58:23 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1130-g4a6f1b9: Remove vestigial sealed-door-destruction code 10(64 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4a6f1b946a69 01:59:34 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 01:59:35 The build has errored. (master - 794a599 #4527 : gammafunk): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/103536611 01:59:35 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 01:59:46 you're lying, travis 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:09:16 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:13:05 -!- koboldina has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:16:10 -!- mpa has joined ##crawl-dev 02:16:20 -!- halberd has joined ##crawl-dev 02:16:38 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 02:16:42 minor bug, when placing poisonous cloud on your fedhas allies, it warns you that it will cause penance but in fact it is harmless 02:16:47 since they rpois 02:17:42 that should go to mantis (unless it's already there) 02:18:07 -!- mong has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:18:25 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:18:55 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:19:27 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:20:59 -!- mpa has quit [Client Quit] 02:22:20 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:22:55 can naga ritualists strip rPois from your Fedhas allies? 02:23:13 or is that only stripping rPois from you 02:23:16 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:23:30 @??naga ritualist 02:23:30 naga ritualist (07N) | Spd: 10 (move: 140%) | HD: 8 | HP: 48-69 | AC/EV: 8/10 | Dam: 14, 403(constrict) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(60), 03poison | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 685 | Sp: spit poison (d13) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath], force lance (3d12), toxic radiance, virulence | Sz: Large | Int: human. 02:23:46 ??virulence 02:23:47 virulence[1/1]: A toxic spell cast by naga ritualists that multiplies the poison running through the target (unresistable) and also attempts to render the target vulnerable to poison (resistable by MR). 02:25:38 would it incur penance to cast freezing cloud on your fedhas allies or is cloud damage exempt? 02:25:42 cursed ring of fire... 02:25:43 as IE 02:25:44 lol 02:27:05 halberd: virulence doesn't seem to work on monsters 02:27:52 yeah it wouldn't even cause penance to cast freezing cloud on fedhas allies 02:27:52 wrong channel w/e 02:27:54 don't know about freezing cloud/fedhas, probably easiest to wizmode that 02:27:58 i just did 02:28:06 it gives the warning but no penance if you do it 02:28:36 not sure which one is the bug 02:29:08 well, it should warn about harming allies even if it doesn't give penance, but I guess it warns about penance? 02:29:28 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest64715 02:31:05 wait a second it looks like fedhas allies are immune to my own clouds? 02:31:13 fcloud isn't damaging them in wizmode 02:33:14 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:33:31 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 02:34:29 ah yeah, that's how it works 02:39:29 -!- koboldina has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:41:44 -!- FireSight has quit [] 02:43:28 -!- Guest64715 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:44:29 fedhas warns of penance from placing clouds on allies, but it does not cause penance 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10242 by Berder 02:44:40 thanks! 02:46:39 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:50:02 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1130-g4a6f1b9 02:56:39 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest19855 03:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:05:59 -!- chewymouse has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:06:47 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:06:51 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:11:46 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1130-g4a6f1b9 (34) 03:14:49 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:16:02 -!- Kuniqs has quit [Client Quit] 03:16:59 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:20:38 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:21:42 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 03:27:55 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:29:01 -!- West1C has quit [] 03:35:27 -!- Guest19855 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:38:20 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:45:19 -!- Starbucks has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:48:55 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:49:27 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:49:56 -!- Reawakening has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:53:25 -!- ldf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:54:59 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 03:57:41 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest10054 04:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:07 -!- edsrzf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:04:04 -!- vale__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:07:37 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:25:22 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:47:44 -!- Naruni has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:49:47 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:01:22 -!- Sorbius_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:04:01 -!- doubleD_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:04:46 -!- twzt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:06:10 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:08:02 -!- eki has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:20:48 -!- jefus_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:29:22 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:33:37 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:36:02 -!- Alcopop_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:44:01 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:50:28 -!- Guest10054 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:56:58 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest92319 06:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:08:28 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:13:05 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:21:08 -!- zxc1 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:21:47 -!- zxc has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:22:05 -!- zxc1 is now known as zxc 06:39:35 -!- fazisi has quit [Disconnected by services] 06:39:43 -!- fazisi_ is now known as fazisi 06:44:35 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:46:34 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 06:52:27 -!- shuangxi has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 06:56:22 -!- Reawakening has joined ##crawl-dev 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:02:41 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 07:02:51 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:05:04 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 07:12:39 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:17:25 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:19:34 -!- Sonata is now known as flappity 07:21:44 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 07:23:27 -!- rj54x has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:23:38 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:28:10 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:28:48 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.18-a0-1131-g90f4a65: Update some changelog entries 10(6 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/90f4a659f7f3 07:31:15 oh, i missed out the thing that had prompted me to actually look through the changelog in the first place 07:31:34 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.18-a0-1132-g8c20bbc: Fix another changelog entry 10(5 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8c20bbcce6c7 07:32:21 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 07:32:33 (also the elf patrolling thing was removed because it's no longer true, not because it's inconsequential, i guess the commit message could've been clearer on that) 07:34:56 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 07:35:56 -!- maldini has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:46:38 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 07:47:52 -!- maldini has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:50:17 -!- Guest92319 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:51:01 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest30396 07:51:46 -!- Dxctxrx has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 07:53:41 -!- maldini has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:56:35 -!- glaas has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:56:54 -!- Harudoku_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00:30 -!- Guest30396 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:01:20 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:03:20 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:07:07 -!- Dxctxrx has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 08:08:04 -!- panicbit3 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:14:57 -!- shuangxi has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 08:18:36 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:22:35 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:22:47 Gozag bribing resets if bribe is used before previous one is expired 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10243 by Lavandula 08:25:31 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 08:28:29 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:34:11 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:43:05 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:44:19 -!- Sorbius_ is now known as Sorbius 08:44:34 -!- Dxctxrx has quit [Client Quit] 08:45:50 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest57964 08:46:59 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:49:08 -!- TAS-2012v has joined ##crawl-dev 08:50:20 -!- Dxctxrx has quit [Client Quit] 08:51:06 -!- chequers_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:51:34 -!- greensna1k has joined ##crawl-dev 08:51:44 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:51:52 -!- rax_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:52:53 -!- Mindiell_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:54:22 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:56:00 -!- kaiza has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- DrKe has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- siepu has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- Kintak has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- PsyMar_ has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- InsideTheVoid has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- buki has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- Rotatell has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- rax has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- Annabella| has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- djanatyn has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- Mandevil has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- chequers has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- Finwe has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- varmin has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- lvh has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- Guest57964 has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- panicbit3 has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- tealeaves has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- elliptic has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- bencryption has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- AutofireII has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- ByronJohnson has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- thrig has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- cromulent has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- Gretell has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- Chousuke has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- bhaak has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- Mindiell has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- paxed has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- SirSkidmore has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- cosh has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- robbje has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- droogie has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- zkyp has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:00 -!- greensnark has quit [*.net *.split] 08:56:26 -!- TAS-2012v is now known as TAS_2012v 08:56:39 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 08:59:29 -!- cromtom is now known as cromulent 09:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:00:06 -!- Chousuke has joined ##crawl-dev 09:01:50 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:03:50 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 09:06:19 -!- varmin has joined ##crawl-dev 09:09:38 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 09:09:53 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:10:32 -!- Dxctxrx has quit [Client Quit] 09:13:55 Gozag turns dancing weapons into gold 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10244 by Lavandula 09:14:30 ^ that isn't intended..? 09:14:47 I saw that in my GrFi^Gozag, found it annoying but assumed it was intentional 09:18:45 <|amethyst> oh, that trap logic flip does seem to have one actual effect 09:19:02 Monsters bribed in hell can leave their branches and even follow player into Depths 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10245 by Lavandula 09:19:02 <|amethyst> which is that placing a vault with &L strips the traps 09:22:10 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-1133-g6682300: Fix post-levelgen trap placement. 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6682300a4861 09:25:51 -!- koboldina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:28:14 can anyone reproduce #10243? 09:28:20 maybe it has something to do with bands 09:28:26 wheals: are you playing trunk 09:28:27 it's stable 09:28:41 can't think of anything that would have changed, but good point 09:31:11 -!- Dxctxrx has quit [Client Quit] 09:32:30 10245 sounds pretty broken 09:32:39 would be fun to play with, but OP if that works anyway :P 09:40:01 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:41:15 -!- Mindiell_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:44:32 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:49:22 -!- Dxctxrx has quit [Client Quit] 09:57:11 -!- maldini has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:02:19 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 10:08:06 -!- maldini_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:08:25 -!- bhaak has joined ##crawl-dev 10:09:03 -!- bhaak is now known as Guest74863 10:13:11 -!- Rotatell has quit [*.net *.split] 10:15:35 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:21:11 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-1134-gff269b5: Partially correct a few trove skill checks (DrKe) 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 16+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ff269b5e128f 10:31:14 <|amethyst> DrKe is working into the second unfixed problem 10:31:17 <|amethyst> s/into/on/ 10:31:29 <|amethyst> someone should look into the first one there 10:32:20 <|amethyst> which is that "average of nonzero skills" could encourage training useless skills to level 1 to bring weapon_skills below spell_skills or vice versa 10:34:05 -!- maldini has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:46:47 03argonaut02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/213 * 0.18-a0-869-g40fa756: Remove unneeded item status. 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/40fa756ad1a8 10:47:51 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:55:06 -!- Harudoku_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:59:31 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 11:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:36 -!- radinms has quit [] 11:01:24 -!- themonkeybob11 has quit [] 11:02:32 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 11:02:39 -!- bigblufrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:10:29 -!- Mindiell has joined ##crawl-dev 11:18:06 -!- Guest74863 is now known as bhaak 11:18:36 -!- bhaak is now known as Guest51765 11:18:40 -!- Guest51765 is now known as bhaak` 11:21:05 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:32:35 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 11:32:48 03DrKe02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/226 * 0.18-a0-1125-g6675373: Fix conditional trove weights 10(17 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/667537323ac7 11:36:24 -!- Vall has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [SeaMonkey 2.28/20150907235313]] 11:37:42 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:47:17 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:48:12 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:52:38 -!- maldini has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:53:30 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 11:58:33 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 11:59:00 -!- siepu_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:59:32 -!- bhaak` is now known as bhaak_ 11:59:41 -!- bhaak_ is now known as bhaak` 11:59:52 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest57970 11:59:57 -!- bhaak` is now known as bhaak_ 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:00:20 -!- cmcbot has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:04:35 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:05:04 -!- Guest57970 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:05:36 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1134-gff269b5 (34) 12:09:27 -!- Keskitalo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:12:57 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:12 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:15:00 <|amethyst> DrKe: minor nitpick: you changed the behaviour when the skills are exactly equal 12:15:05 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:15:18 <|amethyst> DrKe: doesn't really matter though 12:17:50 -!- mopl is now known as mopl_away 12:22:26 i could rebase it to use < instead 12:23:30 -!- WorkSight has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:26:14 <|amethyst> I wouldn't worry about it too much 12:26:19 <|amethyst> seeing as how it didn't work before 12:26:28 <|amethyst> there is no "old behaviour" to preserve :) 12:27:12 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:28:07 -!- dexap is now known as paxed 12:28:19 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 12:32:35 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:34:03 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:33 -!- glosham has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:37:36 -!- maldini has quit [Client Quit] 12:40:47 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:41:56 i had forgotten something, so i'm going to do it anyways 12:42:08 despite the silliness of maintaining continuity with a mechanic that never really existed 12:44:39 -!- Rotatell has quit [*.net *.split] 12:45:10 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:47:16 -!- mopl_away has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:47:54 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 12:49:32 03DrKe02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/226 * 0.18-a0-1125-gbf4dd0f: Fix conditional trove weights 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 5+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bf4dd0fa429d 12:50:07 -!- cmcbot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:52:09 -!- Alcopop_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:52:09 -!- Alcopop has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:52:56 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: Reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold, BYE] 12:53:30 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 12:57:24 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:57:43 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:01:09 -!- WorkSight has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:03:09 -!- IceBlind is now known as WorkSight 13:07:13 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:12:11 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:13:29 -!- mineral has joined ##crawl-dev 13:17:49 -!- Warrigal has joined ##crawl-dev 13:19:36 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 13:20:38 -!- kuniqs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:21:03 -!- Elsi_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:22:00 -!- Kalir has quit [*.net *.split] 13:22:00 -!- siepu has quit [*.net *.split] 13:22:00 -!- Zeor has quit [*.net *.split] 13:22:00 -!- FireSight has quit [*.net *.split] 13:22:00 -!- SirSkidmore has quit [*.net *.split] 13:22:00 -!- cojito has quit [*.net *.split] 13:22:00 -!- Ipsum has quit [*.net *.split] 13:22:00 -!- royiv_ has quit [*.net *.split] 13:22:00 -!- read has quit [*.net *.split] 13:22:00 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [*.net *.split] 13:22:00 -!- royiv has quit [*.net *.split] 13:22:00 -!- gressup has quit [*.net *.split] 13:22:00 -!- minqmay has quit [*.net *.split] 13:22:00 -!- jolamb has quit [*.net *.split] 13:22:00 -!- swisschard has quit [*.net *.split] 13:22:00 -!- tswett has quit [*.net *.split] 13:22:00 -!- Elsi has quit [*.net *.split] 13:24:01 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 13:24:01 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:24:11 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:28:55 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:32:29 -!- maldini has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:35:24 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 13:42:53 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:42:54 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Changing host] 13:42:54 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:45:24 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:48:17 -!- Bcadren has quit [*.net *.split] 13:57:00 -!- Finwe^ has quit [Changing host] 13:57:30 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:57:52 -!- koboldina has quit [Changing host] 13:58:17 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Changing host] 13:58:41 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Changing host] 13:59:04 -!- Kellhus has quit [Changing host] 13:59:05 -!- Bcadren has quit [*.net *.split] 13:59:21 -!- jolamb has quit [Changing host] 13:59:35 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:16 -!- Shinino has quit [Changing host] 14:01:55 -!- syllogism has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:05:35 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:07:09 -!- bhaak_ is now known as bhaak 14:08:40 -!- maldini has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:12:46 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:20:06 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:25:25 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:31:13 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest71039 14:36:37 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 14:37:04 -!- koboldina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:44:18 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:47:25 DrKe: you know, I think there's a problem with the misc trove 14:47:38 First one I got had like 8 cboe 14:47:51 and there's a lot of other misc where multiple are just useless 14:49:11 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:49:49 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:50:39 after reloading it a lot it doesn't look like that instance of mostly redundant items is all that common 14:55:42 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:55:46 -!- maldini has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:56:02 03DrKe02 {gammafunk} 07* 0.18-a0-1135-g92ce489: Trove entry fee adjustments and additions 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 19+ 15-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/92ce48987a85 14:56:02 03DrKe02 {gammafunk} 07* 0.18-a0-1136-g4788093: Add amulet of reflection to trove lists of +x jewellery 10(18 hours ago, 2 files, 7+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/478809370546 14:56:02 03DrKe02 {gammafunk} 07* 0.18-a0-1137-g81bca2a: Add a trove vault 10(18 hours ago, 1 file, 29+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/81bca2a9108f 14:56:02 03DrKe02 {gammafunk} 07* 0.18-a0-1138-g6acfb47: Fix conditional trove weights 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 5+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6acfb4750cc8 14:56:02 03gammafunk02 07* 0.18-a0-1139-g2504384: Reformat lua veto statements 10(62 minutes ago, 1 file, 15+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/25043847bd01 14:56:02 03gammafunk02 07* 0.18-a0-1140-g8540535: Fix a veto condition in a trove 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/85405356529f 14:56:51 I guess we could try a bit harder to not place multiple of items like the lantern of shadows and the evokers etc that are truly redundant, but | and * don't try to do this 14:57:00 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 14:57:01 it's a bit worse for misc since the chance of this is higher 14:59:09 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:06 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:01:42 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:02:41 -!- Sorbius has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:03:22 -!- clouded_ is now known as st_ 15:07:04 -!- plazmod has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:07:18 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:07 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:18:02 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:18:21 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 15:21:25 -!- rmd has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:24:51 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:27:35 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:28:05 -!- clouded_ is now known as st_ 15:28:38 -!- elliptic has quit [*.net *.split] 15:28:39 -!- scummos__ has quit [*.net *.split] 15:28:39 -!- Bcadren has quit [*.net *.split] 15:42:50 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:45:21 -!- neunon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:45:24 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:45:33 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Excess Flood] 15:45:47 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:46:07 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 15:48:06 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 15:52:32 <|amethyst> gammafunk: solution: make them break after some number of uses (turns for lantern) 15:52:50 you monster! 15:53:23 -!- elliptic has quit [*.net *.split] 15:53:24 -!- scummos__ has quit [*.net *.split] 15:53:24 -!- Bcadren has quit [*.net *.split] 15:53:28 it's still a problem for the others, although I guess you could make all the misc items where only one is useful that way 15:53:51 I got a xom's chesspiece my husk^xom game 15:54:03 the first turn I tried to use it, he interceded and stole it 15:54:56 -!- ldf_ has quit [Quit: ldf_] 15:55:14 another annoying part about the breaking is the fact that you'd want to carry two of the item 15:55:46 <|amethyst> yeah, you'd want to make them stack too 15:55:48 this is already a thing for the sack/box though 15:56:03 yeah, I guess that could solve it since there's not actual charges 15:58:22 <|amethyst> OTOH, maybe it's better to solve this problem at the vault level 15:58:48 <|amethyst> hm... I guess that would involve adding another "vault that needs to be updated constantly" problem 15:59:04 <|amethyst> if the vault were to list misc items, maybe with a couple of duplicates, then shuffle them 15:59:23 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:06:49 <|amethyst> on the third hand, maybe it's fine. Weapon and armour troves, after all, will give you lots of stuff you don't need 16:06:59 <|amethyst> and can give you multiples for the same slot 16:09:08 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:09:21 -!- ldf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:11:06 yeah, I made multiple iterations....actually I noticed that the cboe seemed to stop generating entirely 16:11:18 is this because acquire misc knows this and stops giving it? 16:11:32 s/this/that I've seen it/ 16:12:49 seems not, I was able to get it two troves in a row 16:13:28 yeah, it looks like troves with many redundant items will be pretty rare 16:14:04 hope you like xom's chesspieces though, man will you get a lot of those 16:14:30 or I should say, man will you frequently get one; I see one or two most trove 16:14:33 s 16:14:49 but phantom mirrors are even more common, it seems, and those are pretty strong items 16:16:12 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:16:43 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:19:14 -!- buki_ is now known as buki 16:40:45 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 16:42:57 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 16:42:58 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 16:45:12 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:46:44 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:47:00 -!- sanka_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:51:28 i have an any misc in there 16:51:36 -!- gressup_ is now known as gressup 16:52:02 though it is like .6 of one of the 15 items on average 16:52:07 acquire misc does act intelligently 16:52:26 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:52:37 <|amethyst> gammafunk: misc acq does have a lower (0) chance of giving the one-ofs if you have seen them 16:52:46 but maybe not if generated all at once in a trove? 16:52:59 it originally was going to be mainly a misc trove, but i realized that 10 or even 8 slots of just misc is too much 16:53:00 <|amethyst> you probably haven't seen it yet during level gen 16:54:05 <|amethyst> and that's just acq, not 'any misc' 16:55:17 there's 0.6 any misc items on average 16:55:23 and 5.7 or something acquire 16:56:18 -!- kuniqs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:57:39 mooooooom, google's creeping me out again https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/361633/ss-desktop/Screen%20Shot%202016-01-20%20at%203.56.53%20PM.png 16:57:52 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:57:58 heh, sorry, wrong channel 16:57:59 IGNORE ME 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:02:11 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 17:09:45 -!- maldini has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:10:30 -!- glaas has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:14:12 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 17:17:24 -!- emeraldemon has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:19:02 @??goblin 17:19:08 rip Gretell 17:19:29 yeah gfunk i think that characters that haven't seen any misc items at all can get weird results 17:19:33 since it probably does all the acq misc's at once 17:19:36 so you get repeats 17:19:45 but most chars will not get multiple cboe 17:19:49 except the small chance of any misc 17:19:55 picking cboe 17:19:58 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:21:02 6~ misc acquirements is probably the upper limit of what i can have without that effect being overly pronounced 17:21:26 e.g. a dude who hasnt seen fan of gales gets the vault but he has seen most of the other one offs so he gets 3x fan of gales 17:21:28 ah, yeah, I had tested with a d:1 char 17:21:37 so I got their crazy hall of cboe 17:21:49 s/their/this/ 17:21:58 I knew something was happening as I reloaded 17:22:02 but I wasn't sure what 17:22:18 it's just that after the first few I'd seen them all, so there was less silliness 17:22:32 well after you've seen them all you get mighty stacks of sacks of spiders and pmirrors 17:22:41 and xom's chess pieces 17:22:56 most chars opening a trove like that won't have seen 0 misc items 17:23:07 so hopefully it won't be too bad 17:23:29 hrm, I guess they might have seen only a few though 17:23:42 i'm not sure if the situation necessarily gets better if they have seen more misc items, unless the hierarchy of items favors certain items 17:24:06 like yeah there are less one offs to choose from, but there are also less items to choose from 17:24:12 if we're trying to avoid doubles 17:24:33 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:24:55 My thought was mostly about things that are truly useless as doubles 17:25:11 yeah which misc acq won't give 17:25:19 but when we load the trove you see all the items at once 17:25:26 right, but if you've not seen it, you oculd get 3x cboe 17:25:36 its just a thing that will sometimes happen 17:25:39 the odds arent that great 17:25:58 since we don't control for this in any meaningful way for just the generic troves 17:26:01 i could make more of it any misc i suppose 17:26:08 I'm not sure why we'd do so for this one 17:26:08 that would make the trove worse, but less likely to appear strange 17:26:10 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:32:44 -!- halberd has joined ##crawl-dev 17:33:20 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:36:17 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:39:00 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:45:45 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 17:48:39 yeah, testing out chars with all of the one-offs except one 17:48:46 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:48:47 they usually get 2 or 3 of that one 17:49:16 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:49:32 i mean, jewelry and etc acq is going to have doubles too 17:49:42 it seems like nbd 17:58:50 you could hardcode say 75% of the one-offs to appear and then the remaining spaces (however many that is) can be the stackables 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:42 isn't that kinda self-defeating though 18:00:57 like instead of a double/triple cboe, our later game guy just gets copies of stuff he already had x3 18:01:13 -!- Reawakening_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:01:29 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-a0-1140-g8540535 (34) 18:02:49 -!- Nyvrem has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:03:35 -!- tealeaves has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:03:53 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:04:11 -!- tw_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:04:46 -!- chequers_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:04:46 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:04:46 -!- Reawakening has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:04:46 -!- twzt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:04:53 -!- chequers has joined ##crawl-dev 18:08:00 -!- siepu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:09:26 it looks like cboe could be particularly problematic for some chars 18:10:55 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:11:13 since it has special handling in acquire.cc 18:11:53 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:12:02 I'm just thinking it's better to ensure some items are good rather than someone getting four stones 18:12:37 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:12:38 yeah, if i set evo and spellcasting to 27 and send in a guy who hasn't seen cboe, i get 5 cboes 18:12:40 haven't run the numbers but I feel crappy outcomes could be not that unusual if you just generate sixteen acquire misc items on someone who's seen only one/two of them 18:12:42 i only got 2 with 20/20 though 18:12:54 it's actually only 6 18:13:19 the other 9 are rods, wands, and recha scrolls 18:13:26 -!- VoidFox has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:13:35 i limited the number of misc items more than i otherwise would have cause i figured that would be an issue 18:15:47 -!- siepu__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:18:17 weight for the worst case scenario would be 15/43 of the same elem evoker 18:18:49 assuming char has seen all other one offs 18:18:57 so 2 on average in the trove 18:21:58 isn't the worst case when the player has seen no one-offs? And they end up with doubles of all of them? 18:22:14 I guess you could say getting every one-off is actually alright 18:22:24 for a trove 18:22:45 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:23:28 well when the trove initially rolls the weights are going to be normal 18:23:38 so it's more likely you would get an ok spread of the one offs with maybe one double 18:23:42 if you had none of them 18:23:52 and again, only 6 items 18:24:26 i mean it is also possible that you get a bunch of the same one due to bad luck 18:24:43 but that is possible in other troves too 18:25:03 the issue here would be dudes who have seen most of them already getting a stack of something 18:25:26 which i think now only happens with someone with really high evo + splcast who doesn't have cboe 18:26:08 because cboe is a special case for misc acq for some reason 18:28:24 -!- molotove has quit [Client Quit] 18:28:29 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:29:59 -!- Floodkiller has joined ##crawl-dev 18:30:20 -!- maldini has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:31:00 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:31:11 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 18:33:24 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:35:00 -!- molotove has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:38:33 so I think Ds mutation spikes is too powerful now in the niche of 'you get it on XL2 or 3' in that it can basically carry you through the first five or six levels 18:38:48 yeah it seems outrageous 18:38:52 early game 18:39:00 but it's still relatively crap from midgame forwards, like a bad foul stench 18:39:14 I was thinking about tieing proc chance to XL and increasing damage again 18:40:21 ??spines 18:40:22 spiny[1/1]: 0.16: At mutation level x, gives a 2/(39 - 6x) chance of doing (2 + (x-1)/2)d5 - enemy AC) damage to enemies in melee combat when their attack is not blocked by the player. Subject to monster AC. Level 3 prevents constriction. 0.17+: Chance is 50% and damage is (1+x)d5. 18:40:31 well, either: 20% per mutlevel proc chance, and increased damage, or 20->50% proc chance scaling with XL and moderately increased damage 18:40:42 that's all wrong now 18:40:51 %git 312f747 18:40:51 07elliptic02 * 0.17-a0-871-g312f747: Buff spiny mutation (chequers). 10(9 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/312f7478b7f0 18:41:10 50% chance of 1+mutlevel d 5 18:41:42 eh, that damage seems okay to me later on 18:41:45 so 5/10/15 damage per turn, subtract AC 18:41:52 i mean all it has to do is be roughly equivalent to an alright aux attack 18:42:05 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:42:07 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 18:43:15 I think when comparing it to foul stench it comes out worse. That can slow things reasonably often 18:44:37 i would agree with tying the proc chance to mutlevel 18:44:54 but i don't think you need to increase the damage that much 18:45:34 I mean, for lategame enemies 18:45:37 @??green draconian 18:45:44 ? 18:45:50 @??draconian 18:45:57 green draconian (03d) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 84-110 | AC/EV: 9/10 | Dam: 20, 1508(poison:28-56) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(40), 03poison | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 1331 | Sp: poisonous cloud (3d9) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 18:45:57 %??green draconian 18:47:48 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:48:52 average ac roll like 5 18:49:03 -!- vev has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:49:21 0 is a valid roll!!! 18:49:33 so maybe tied to xl and something around 1d25 18:49:37 or 1d30 18:49:39 at max 18:49:49 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 18:50:07 correction average ac roll inbetween 4 and 5 18:53:06 -!- molotove1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:58:21 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:59:02 why should it need special regard for lategame enemies, isn't it a fairly low tier mut 18:59:05 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 18:59:17 -!- Guest71039 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:59:18 a tier 1 18:59:18 we don't upgrade dr breath over time 18:59:20 if you can get it at xl2 18:59:27 -!- clouded_ is now known as st_ 19:00:02 -!- molotove has quit [*.net *.split] 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:00:04 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 19:00:07 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:00:17 yeah, what DrKe said about roughly equiv to a decent aux attack 19:08:10 kvaak: you can get any mut at xl2 19:08:36 aren't the tier 3 ones delayed 19:08:45 proabilistically 19:08:52 anyway, t's a tier 2 19:09:11 -!- serq has quit [Changing host] 19:09:30 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:09:31 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 19:09:43 right now it's uber for the first five floors, great in early game and mediocre in mid/late imo. Wereas foul stench is useless until you get level 2 but being able to slow near anything is pretty nice 19:10:11 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:10:11 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:10:49 -!- Franz__ has quit [*.net *.split] 19:10:49 -!- CKyle has quit [*.net *.split] 19:10:49 -!- molotove has quit [*.net *.split] 19:10:57 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:11:35 what about (mut*5+XL/6)d5 19:11:51 the higher-tier a mutation is, the later you tend to get it, but there's no guarantee. a while ago i did a back-of-the-envelope calculation for "how likely is it to max out your tier 3 mutation at XL4", and it's possible but, iirc, so unlikely it has probably never happened 19:12:04 caps out at roughly 8d5 19:12:11 but is still pretty low earlygame 19:12:55 amalloy: I once ended up getting RMsl by XL4 which I think is pretty unlikely 19:13:00 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:13:03 But yeah, not as unlikely as maxing out the tier 3 mut :P 19:13:11 usually I get my first level of tier 3 by xl20 or so 19:13:19 what is that, level 3 of a tier2, FIQ? 19:13:22 yeah, it comes *late* 19:13:23 which would be okay if mark didn't exist 19:13:28 amalloy: level 3 repulsion field 19:13:29 so, scales 19:13:44 -!- chewymouse has joined ##crawl-dev 19:13:47 last time i got spiny, i tried to suicide (due to irrelevant tournament scoring reasons) but couldn't 19:14:01 is there any particular reason you didn't ^qyes 19:14:06 oh just for fun 19:14:12 just dive 19:14:15 i would have if suiciding had been actually impossible 19:14:41 i just held ........ against several monsters and didn't die, so i started summoning monsters and attacking them 19:14:43 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:15:02 I once got spiny 3 by XL6 or something like that 19:15:05 it was quite ridiculous 19:15:24 everything just.. died 19:16:21 -!- simmarine__ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:17:04 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 19:17:56 hm I think (mut*4+XL/5)d5 scales better 19:17:59 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:18:05 Just an idea though, I dunno how crawl formulas generally look like :P 19:19:02 so 17.4d5 at level 27? 19:19:07 no 19:19:15 how do you get that number? 19:19:21 mut*4 for 12 19:19:22 ??foul_stench 19:19:23 foul stench[1/1]: Tier 2 Demonspawn facet. Level 1: rRot, Level 2: sicken monsters and sometimes emit miasma when damaged in melee. Level 3: emit miasma more often. 19:19:23 XL for 27 19:19:28 39/5 is ~8 19:19:29 so 8d5 19:19:31 pemdas 19:19:41 which is twice the current number 19:19:47 you do mult and divide before adding 19:19:59 might be too much, but my impression was that spines kinda sucked in lategame anyway 19:20:01 FIQ: 4+4/2 is 6, not 4, is what DrKe is saying 19:20:14 ok, sorry but what I meant was ((mut*4+XL)/5)d5 19:20:20 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:20:35 -!- simmarine_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:23:12 (It was just an idea, I didn't do the math fully, I think it might scale too well still earlygame if you get spiny1 or 2 early) 19:23:43 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 19:23:49 why are you all starting with the assumption it a) needs to be great late b) is currently bad late 19:24:09 kvaak: I have found lategame spiny to be kind of meh myself 19:24:21 also other people in here stated the same thing 19:24:22 if you want a lategame mutation that's bad try mark 19:24:24 so I assumed it was conseus 19:24:28 sorry if it was not 19:24:41 it's a tier 3 that does literally nothing until level 3 19:25:03 I think it gives rTorm? 19:25:07 at level 2 19:25:11 which isn't bad by any means 19:25:18 (but kind of niche) 19:25:48 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 19:26:03 kvaak: also, most tier 3 muts do pretty much nothing until the final level 19:26:12 that is one hundred percent untrue 19:26:15 most of them are in fact mirrored by some tier 2 muts 19:26:22 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 19:26:31 (hellfire, meleefreeze) 19:27:15 kvaak: a single pip of rC+ and immune to freezing clouds is more useful than rN+, rTorm how exactly? 19:27:21 I'd say that they're about equal at best 19:27:26 cold damage and freezing clouds exist 19:27:39 you don't see rtorm much in a 3 rune game 19:27:52 er 19:27:54 torment 19:28:20 this might be true 19:28:32 but I wasn't realizing that kvaak was talking about 3runes specifically 19:28:42 me neither :v 19:29:13 the game's basically over by 3 runes 19:29:15 so there's that 19:33:08 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:33:43 -!- FIQ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:34:42 ??black mark 19:34:43 black mark[1/2]: Demonspawn mutation gained at level 3 of the negative energy facet. Gives melee attacks that deal damage a 1/5 chance of gaining a vampiric effect and applying antimagic, weakness or draining to the target. The vampiric effect affects all non-summoned monsters. 19:35:36 -!- maldini has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:36:19 it doesn't vamp anymore 19:36:40 rip 19:36:57 levels 1 and 2 are rN+, rTorm? that is pretty terrible. i got passive freeze my last two Ds, and it was great because it was early rC+ even though the other stuff didn't matter at all 19:37:15 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:38:05 i actually got passive freeze 1 at XL2, this game 19:39:46 !learn e black_mark[1] s/of gaining a vampiric effect and// 19:39:46 black mark[1/2]: Demonspawn mutation gained at level 3 of the negative energy facet. Gives melee attacks that deal damage a 1/5 chance applying antimagic, weakness or draining to the target. The vampiric effect affects all non-summoned monsters. 19:40:04 !learn e black_mark[1] s/chance /chance of / 19:40:05 black mark[1/2]: Demonspawn mutation gained at level 3 of the negative energy facet. Gives melee attacks that deal damage a 1/5 chance of applying antimagic, weakness or draining to the target. The vampiric effect affects all non-summoned monsters. 19:40:29 !learn e black_mark[1] s/the vampiric*.*// 19:40:30 black mark[1/2]: Demonspawn mutation gained at level 3 of the negative energy facet. Gives melee attacks that deal damage a 1/5 chance of applying antimagic, weakness or draining to the target. 19:41:38 it looks like regular antimagic brand is damage_done * 32 19:41:45 and black mark is only damage_done * 8 19:42:17 ??ds mutations 19:42:17 ds mutation rules[1/5]: Assuming you aren't monstrous, you get five facets, each consisting of three mutations (which usually just stack together). You will get one scales-type facet, one body-slot facet, two tier 2 facets, and one tier 3 facet. 19:42:20 ??ds mutations[3 19:42:20 ds mutation rules[3/5]: Tier 2 facets: powered by death, powered by pain, demonic guardian, nightstalker, spiny, rot (rRot, foul stench), fire (flame cloud immunity, rF+, ignite blood), ice (freezing cloud immunity, rC+, icemail), magic shield. 19:42:21 ??ds mutations[4 19:42:22 ds mutation rules[4/5]: Tier 3 facets: robust (+30% HP), negative energy (rN+/rTorment/black mark), {augmentation} (+slay/spellpower scaling with HP), ice (rC+, freezing cloud immunity, passive freeze), fire (rF+, flame cloud immunity, hellfire). Ice/fire facets are incompatible, as are foul stench/ignite blood. 19:42:32 to compensate for it not being antimagic most of the time I assume 19:43:04 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:43:18 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 19:43:23 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:43:54 -!- Sprort has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:46:00 oh, weapons are also * 8 19:46:06 i was looking at antimagic bite 19:46:35 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:49:07 yeah, perhaps negative energy could be rN+, black mark, rTorment 19:49:24 can you get fire scales + ice tier 3? 19:49:29 ah no 19:49:56 it says ice/fire facets are incompatible, but isn't clear about whether scales facets count as icy or fiery 19:50:13 anyway, I do think spiny needs to be weaker in the extreme early game, but I'm happy to defer to drke and say it's in a good place past that 19:50:18 -!- WorkSight has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 19:50:21 eg spiny 2 in lair is merely decent 19:50:56 maybe it can use special scaling for the first x XLs or something. That's messy, but solves the immediate problem 19:53:44 -!- Guest61106 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:54:29 -!- cojitoo is now known as cojito 19:55:33 it looks like it just checks for mut_heat and mut_cold_resistance specifically amalloy 19:55:41 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:55:43 and does not let you have both 19:55:57 or two of the same for that matter 19:56:16 since you would then get a redundant cloud immunity also 19:56:37 so it doesn't care about scales, right? i'm pretty sure i've gotten icy scales and passive freeze 19:57:18 yeah, it's just level 3 scales 19:57:29 it doesnt consider that as being rf for the purposes of choosing muts 19:57:35 ./rc 19:59:26 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:59:35 -!- West1C has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:03:48 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:06:40 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:06:42 -!- st__ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:06:46 <|amethyst> chequers: there is already support for special scaling, so not even messy 20:07:04 <|amethyst> demonic guardian has it for example 20:07:10 <|amethyst> !source _demon_facets 20:07:11 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mutation.cc#l1910 20:07:47 -!- st__ is now known as st_ 20:09:16 -!- clouded_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:11:13 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:13:05 -!- Guest61106 has quit [Changing host] 20:13:05 -!- Guest61106 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:13:13 -!- Guest61106 is now known as FIQ 20:13:33 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:16:46 -!- Franz__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:23:18 -!- lateralus has quit [Client Quit] 20:24:23 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:25:05 -!- archaeo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:25:15 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:26:14 |amethyst: not the probability of being placed, but the actual proc chance / damage being special cased for early game 20:27:57 -!- vev has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:30:25 -!- Naruni has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:38:06 is it still necessary to have non-branded dancing weapons at the entrance to the Hall of Blades if Elf can spawn nastier branded ones naturally now? 20:38:33 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:43:11 well I see e.mons("patrolling dancing weapon ; dagger good_item | mundane falchion w:6") 20:46:15 -!- kreedzfreak_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:48:40 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:51:19 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:56:23 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 20:57:42 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 20:59:56 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:06:43 -!- eb has quit [] 21:07:05 hmm trapdoor spiders were removed 21:07:12 i did not notice that 21:07:22 he added redbacks to the sack 21:07:29 and made adjustments elsewhere 21:07:49 *more redbacks 21:09:44 maybe we could move jumping spiders down and remove the 2nd redback 21:09:52 they're not that crazy are they 21:09:56 @??jumping spider 21:10:06 jumping spider (12s) | Spd: 15 | HD: 8 | HP: 23-42 | AC/EV: 6/12 | Dam: 2016(ensnare), 8 | see invisible, web sense | Res: 06magic(20), 08blind | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 300 | Sp: blink close [11!AM, 06!sil], blink away [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: brainless. 21:10:06 %??jumping spider 21:10:21 redback (04s) | Spd: 15 | HD: 9 | HP: 21-33 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 1804(strong poison:33-58) | web sense | Res: 06magic(20) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 219 | Sz: tiny | Int: brainless. 21:10:21 %??redback 21:11:46 or maybe its finally time to rename it "bag of bugs" and add other insects/insect like things 21:13:38 -!- DDFi has quit [Client Quit] 21:14:00 not sure what we'd have 21:14:09 ??rod_of_swarm 21:14:09 summon swarm[1/2]: Level 5 rod spell. Summons all sorts of wild beasts ranging from butterflies to wasps. Always friendly (before 0.8 they were often hostile). 21:14:15 bag of beeeeeeeees 21:14:20 that's the rod of swarm 21:14:35 we'd shy away from the y I think, aside from ghost moths 21:15:56 -!- molotove has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:16:15 yeah wasps/hornets are not a great fit anyways 21:16:27 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 21:16:43 fr: add spark wasps to rod of swarm at super high evo 21:17:16 rod of swarm's summons aren't spellpower dependent 21:17:20 you get teh same monsters from swarm at evo 27 as you do at evo 0, yeah 21:17:20 it's the number that is :v 21:17:49 ??summon swarm[2 21:17:50 summon swarm[2/2]: Full list: Killer bee (tripled weight), scorpion, worm, vampire mosquito, goliath beetle, spider, butterfly, yellow wasp, and worker ant (tripled weight). No vampire mosquitoes if you're with a good god. Choice of summons not weighted by power, but number of summons is. 21:18:05 how boring 21:18:25 ??bag of spiders 21:18:25 I don't have a page labeled bag_of_spiders in my learndb. 21:18:29 ??sack 21:18:30 sack ~ sick[1/2]: When you are sick, your hit points do not regenerate, and you may occasionally suffer one-point stat drains. The stat drains can be avoided with a ring of sustain abilities, and the sickness can be removed most commonly with time or with a potion of curing. 21:18:34 ??sack of sp 21:18:35 I don't have a page labeled sack_of_sp in my learndb. 21:18:39 damn you sequell!!! 21:18:41 ??sack of spiders 21:18:42 sack of spiders[1/2]: When evoked, generates friendly spiders and webs. Contains 5-15 charges and has a 1/5 chance of failure when evoked. The kinds of spiders you get vary with evocations; at really high evocations you get the occasional ghost moth. 21:18:48 ??sack of spiders[2 21:18:48 sack of spiders[2/2]: Probably the best item in the game. 21:19:01 I second bag of bugs and get rid of rod of the swarm 21:19:04 then add all the bugs to it 21:19:27 enable bugomancers 21:19:42 add the helllionworm monster to the game 21:19:52 !learn set summon_swarm[2] Full list: Killer bee (quad weight), scorpion (triple weight), river rat, wasp, vampire mosquito, butterfly. No vampire mosquitoes if you're with a good god. Choice of summons not weighted by power, but number of summons is. 21:19:53 summon swarm[2/2]: Full list: Killer bee (quad weight), scorpion (triple weight), river rat, wasp, vampire mosquito, butterfly. No vampire mosquitoes if you're with a good god. Choice of summons not weighted by power, but number of summons is. 21:20:16 huh, river rates? 21:20:17 *rats 21:20:21 that's new 21:20:33 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:20:43 also river rat is weight 2 21:20:54 yes you are correct 21:20:58 i should know this 21:21:00 lel 21:21:07 I'm looking at the commit RIGHT THIS MOMENT 21:21:13 !learn edit summon_swarm[2] s/river rat/river rat (doubled weight) 21:21:14 summon swarm[2/2]: Full list: Killer bee (quad weight), scorpion (triple weight), river rat (doubled weight), wasp, vampire mosquito, butterfly. No vampire mosquitoes if you're with a good god. Choice of summons not weighted by power, but number of summons is. 21:22:05 i just felt worms were very uninspiring 21:26:38 (next up: bucket of worms/bait) 21:27:18 now that swamp worms can walk! 21:28:15 do their tiles have cute little feet 21:28:18 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:29:56 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:32:02 nope, no feet, just a slug tail 21:32:05 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:33:42 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 21:37:32 i guess we could move jumping spider to 9 and tarantella to 12 + lower the weights 21:37:51 then there would be progression every 3 levels 21:41:28 http://i.imgur.com/5WpVQUY.png 21:42:47 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:44:03 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 21:45:49 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:47:09 -!- sorlin has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:48:51 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:49:13 -!- MakMorn has quit [Read error: No route to host] 21:50:23 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 21:55:56 -!- sorlin has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:56:18 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:58:44 kvaak: lmao 21:58:53 beautiful... 22:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:11 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:02:36 amulet of dismissal has a pretty strong synergy with haunt, it turns out 22:02:57 if the monster gets teleported away, the ghosts just try to beeline for wherever it went, killing everything in their wake 22:05:42 New branch created: pull/227 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/227 22:05:42 03edsrzf02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/227 * 0.18-a0-1141-g15a6f2f: Some fixes for monster health in webtiles with tile_display_mode = glyphs 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/15a6f2f356b8 22:13:26 well I don't think haunt monsters fight out of los 22:14:22 it doesn't, but they sure fight all the monsters on the way without timing out like if the monster died 22:14:37 well why not just use recall to do this 22:15:04 not that the dismissal effect isn't useful, but with an l3 spell you can do it whenever you like 22:15:08 because there isn't much space to recall with nightstalker 3 22:15:31 well when we start granting nightstalker 3 22:15:35 when the player learns haunt 22:15:48 that will be quite something I guess 22:16:07 it's a cool emergent synergy 22:16:09 probably 22:16:14 haunt/dismissal 22:16:16 also mennas is a dick 22:16:28 PleasingFungus: recall is cooler and you're just not cool 22:16:33 funguses are not cool 22:17:13 I tried to make my DrNe of sif a haunter 22:17:19 sadly she didn't want to gift the spell 22:17:21 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:18:01 you're just not cool enough for it 22:18:08 -!- koboldina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:18:39 ??haunt 22:18:39 haunt[1/2]: (L7 summ/necr): Summons 2-6 wraiths and undead "ghost" type monsters around the target. Smite-targeted, but only castable on a monster. In 0.16- caused sickness when cast unless you worship Kikubaaqudgha and pass a piety-in-200 check. 22:21:35 ??gods 22:21:36 gods[1/3]: '?' '/' 'G' for a complete list (in game). Type "?? reasons" (in IRC) to get a list of reasons which might motivate you to worship that particular god. 22:21:40 ??gods[2 22:21:40 gods[2/3]: Ashenzari, Beogh, Cheibriados, Dithmenos, Elyvilon, Fedhas, Gozag, Jiyva, Kikubaaqudgha, Lugonu, Makhleb, Nemelex Xobeh, Okawaru, Pakellas, Qazlal, Ru, Sif Muna, Trog, Vehumet, Xom, Yredelemnul, Zin, the Shining One. 22:21:43 man, remember sickness... 22:22:00 no, as long as I keep taking my pills 22:24:10 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:26:27 sickness never left 22:26:41 !learn add gammafunk god genders based on how they appear to me: sif: female (we're in a relationship), trog: male (best bro), mak: male, veh: male, oka: female, lucy: female, ely: female, kiku: afraid to ask, gozag: male, pak: male, qaz: female, chei: male, zin: no, xom: male, yred: male, tso: male fedhas: potted plant, nem: removed, ru: Lasty won't let me ask, dith: female, beogh: male 22:26:41 gammafunk[7/7]: god genders based on how they appear to me: sif: female (we're in a relationship), trog: male (best bro), mak: male, veh: male, oka: female, lucy: female, ely: female, kiku: afraid to ask, gozag: male, pak: male, qaz: female, chei: male, zin: no, xom: male, yred: male, tso: male fedhas: potted plant, nem: removed, ru: Lasty won't let me ask, dith: female, beogh: male 22:26:57 it has just been biding its time in the shadows of the abyss 22:27:01 waiting to strike once more\ 22:27:17 2spoopy... 22:27:28 zin: no 22:27:32 just NO 22:27:44 bold call on oka 22:27:59 maybe oka appears as a guy to you, nbd 22:28:09 fedhas: not a tree??? 22:28:17 it's just a cute potted plant 22:28:41 http://www.lovethesepics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Rainbow-eucalyptus-truly-one-of-the-most-amazingly-beautiful-rainbow-colored-trees-on-earth.jpg 22:28:52 http://www.artificialplantsandtrees.com/mm5/graphics/00000002/NEA1334-ZM-1.jpg 22:28:53 how is trog your best bro 22:29:06 the dude will chop your head off if it seems like a funny thing to do 22:29:16 just got to enjoy the trog lifestyle 22:29:20 isn't that more of a xom thing 22:29:23 trog must be to allow gammafunk to continue worshipping after killing all those poor mibes 22:29:42 alternately, http://45.media.tumblr.com/40777272605fe3fa8b7218094ed26f67/tumblr_nyx9boESNO1qza1qzo1_540.gif 22:29:43 yeah he's totally chill 22:30:04 with all the sif worship you;d think gammafunk would be anti-Trog 22:30:06 PleasingFungus: good zot monster in there 22:30:10 haha 22:30:41 -!- lolli has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:31:02 fr: gorsia unique 22:31:12 (also now I'm picturing Ficus as a unique) 22:31:19 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:31:19 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:31:29 invisible, does over 1000 damage in a single punch 22:37:39 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 22:41:45 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:51:20 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 22:51:47 -!- jspengler has quit [] 22:54:57 -!- sorlin has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:55:22 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:14:07 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:15:55 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 23:34:01 -!- Jessika has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:39:49 -!- Naruni has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:39:50 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:40:25 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:45:18 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 23:48:03 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:49:17 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 23:49:25 -!- Floodkiller has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:49:37 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 23:52:24 -!- G-Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:54:14 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 23:59:30 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1140-g8540535 (34) 23:59:39 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection]