00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:03 yeah it's not ridiculous 00:00:07 I think johnstein's is larger 00:00:12 i noticed there are two versions of the vault, because Floodkiller was worried one would be too tomby. what about using lua to select the monster set, to merge the two endings into one? 00:00:41 mmm 00:00:42 well I don't think the alternate is very interesting 00:00:53 it's just "here's a lot of spider that have become zombies" 00:01:00 the alternate is just there mainly to cut out death scarabs and Tomb textures 00:01:15 what is the difficulty of this vault compared to the others 00:01:18 out of curiousity 00:01:23 yeah I think death scarabs function like the bone dragon in the swamp end 00:01:33 since this doesn't even have miasma clouds there just not much going on 00:01:48 the death scarabs will provide miasma clouds!!!!! 00:01:51 yep 00:01:54 but not if you remove them! 00:01:59 !remove gammafunk 00:02:00 03Grunt * 0.18-a0-1530-g4df01fd: Remove gammafunk 10(in the future, 40 files, 668+ 531-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4df01fd 00:02:03 R E M O V E 00:02:09 remove them with a sword 00:02:22 !remove kvaak with a +9 demon blade of electrocution. 00:02:23 03Grunt * 0.18-a0-1531-g6d04692: Remove kvaak with a +9 demon blade of electrocution. 10(in the future, 19 files, 636+ 513-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6d04692 00:02:24 or with a dragon with a single beefy arm 00:02:38 sticking out of the back of its neck there...lookin pretty good 00:02:51 !send gammafunk THE GIAGGOSTUONO 00:02:51 Sending THE GIAGGOSTUONO to gammafunk. 00:03:15 FIQ: out of the test runs with MiBe, MfSk^Yred, TeAE^Veh, HuFi^Oka, and OgHu^Chei: the TeAE died horrifically but completed it on the second attempt, and the MiBe got cut down to about 20 HP trying to man mode the vault with BiA, Trog's Hand, and Berserk 00:03:15 trogdor is so 2003 00:03:20 Sif Muna whispers: "...become THE GIAGGOSTUONO!" 00:03:31 !commit remove 00:03:31 johnstein_spider_rune_arachne_lair (TOO BIG!) 00:03:32 03johnstein * 0.18-a0-1532-g54a629a: remove 10(in the future, 32 files, 677+ 683-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=54a629a 00:03:40 it's actually a bit smaller than this 00:03:40 rip 00:03:41 rip 00:03:46 !remove NEWLINES 00:03:47 03johnstein * 0.18-a0-1533-g8ed3fb2: Remove NEWLINES 10(in the future, 8 files, 607+ 772-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ed3fb2 00:03:48 this vault needs to have some border removed though 00:04:05 so it's a bit smaller than it appears 00:04:26 I haven't play tested but I'm going to wait for a version 2.0 00:05:19 also, I created a pared down version of the vault and ran objstat on it, is there any easy way to slot this into the spreadsheet? 00:05:33 -!- eb has quit [] 00:05:38 probably best if you just make another pastebin 00:05:41 I can run and merge with a script 00:05:50 that I wrote. because I'm a genius 00:06:11 * gammafunk admires himself in a phantom mirror... 00:06:26 http://pastebin.com/vyY98n5W 00:06:46 just at a quick glance, the AllMonsterXP is much more reasonable at about 2k more than average after I ran it 00:06:49 instead of 20k 00:06:56 cool 00:07:34 and no_monster_gen brought the average monsters down a good amount as well 00:08:11 I cut out the entropy weavers though, I think they felt thrown in 00:08:23 that's reasonable 00:09:06 Floodkiller: looks like you have trailing whitespace at the top of your vault 00:09:40 from the very top to the first row of x that run across the vault 00:09:47 shouldn't be spaces to fill in the line 00:09:50 just nothing 00:09:52 -!- destroythecore_ has quit [Client Quit] 00:09:58 You die... 00:09:59 Save macros? 00:09:59 Beogh appreciates the orc priest's killing of a heretic priest. 00:09:59 ^ not bad lol 00:10:08 checkwhite (util/checkwhite) can fix these 00:10:10 just run it in the source dir and it will clean it up 00:12:22 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:13:54 Floodkiller: ok, updated 00:14:07 the first sheet (with Updated in the name) is current ends vs your updated map 00:14:31 yeah about 7k more xp instead of 20k more, so that's good 00:14:40 and monster count is much more reasonable 00:14:51 ..crimson imps 00:14:54 wonder how those got there 00:15:03 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:15 bad vaults probably 00:15:17 >.> 00:15:25 does one of the uniques have them? 00:15:29 nope 00:15:31 probably what Grunt said 00:15:37 there were also v. ugly things 00:16:07 portal vaults? 00:16:38 !vault nicolae_crawler_farm 00:16:39 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/spider.des#l848 00:16:40 your map has about 5k less nutrtion than the average 00:16:46 you're starving our players 00:16:54 !send starvation gammafunk 00:16:54 Sending gammafunk to starvation. 00:16:58 it's spider, they should suck it up 00:17:04 nicolae confirmed bad vault maker 00:17:10 * gammafunk gestures. gammafunk becomes a Lich! 00:17:44 well this looks pretty reasonble stat wise, maybe I should try playing it 00:17:59 ... 00:18:08 swamp worm AllLevels 0.18 0.06 00:18:09 swamp worm Spider:4 0.18 0.06 00:18:13 wow that's terrible 00:18:19 but yeah why swamp worms, for crying out loud 00:18:24 !vault worms_lemuel 00:18:25 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/mini_monsters.des#l259 00:18:34 I guess those are more appropriate than some thigns 00:18:36 right, that vault 00:18:44 trying to figure out where the ugly things are coming from 00:18:48 no luck so far 00:18:58 yeah that one is confusing 00:19:02 does lemuel have a single vault that isn't terrible in at least one regard 00:19:13 hellion island is cool! 00:19:17 he has some cool vaults 00:19:19 !learn add lemuel does lemuel have a single vault that isn't terrible in at least one regard 00:19:21 lemuel[8/8]: does lemuel have a single vault that isn't terrible in at least one regard 00:19:47 ahhhhhhhhh 00:19:51 gammafunk: did you catch my DD with 2 runes clearing hellion island with /disint 00:19:53 !vault portal_ice_cave_entry_ugly_swarm 00:19:53 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/icecave.des#l430 00:19:58 kvaak: haha, what 00:20:13 riiight 00:20:23 white (very) ugly things 00:20:25 alright, fixed the whitespace, do you need another pastebin? 00:20:28 should have guesse 00:20:31 I got shoals and didn't want to do vaults or abyss and I did geh last time 00:20:39 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:20:45 so I went to pan for my 3rd rune and ran into hellion island 00:20:46 mmmm, guess who the original author there was 00:20:47 Floodkiller: can you make a github repo and do a PR, or anything? 00:20:56 only ranged option I had was /disint 00:21:00 I had three initial guesses and all three were wrong 00:21:23 Floodkiller: you can give me an update when you make the next substantive change 00:21:37 but a branch with a PR is nice for sharing 00:21:40 no pastebin needed 00:22:04 well, you still have to use git so maybe it's not much different to you, but then we don't have to manually download at least 00:22:21 !lm . pan -3 x=mmp 00:22:22 119/121. [2016-01-11 23:17:27] [mmp=13] perunasaurus the Fencer (L19 DDEn of Makhleb) entered Pandemonium on turn 38243. (Depths:2) 00:22:24 !lm . pan -2 x=mmp 00:22:25 120/121. [2016-01-11 23:31:48] [mmp=6] perunasaurus the Fencer (L20 DDEn of Makhleb) found a demonic rune of Zot on turn 39715. (Pan) 00:22:29 hm 00:22:31 I guess it wasn't actually that bad 00:22:34 !lg * map~~lemuel s=map 00:22:36 47593 games for * (map~~lemuel): 3056x lemuel_castle_with_subvaults, 2522x lemuel_flame_loot_1, 1778x lemuel_doored_altar, 1592x lemuel_entry_room, 1425x lemuel_entry_muddy, 1387x lemuel_entry_lava_pool, 1359x lemuel_entry_tunnels, 1323x lemuel_entry_funnel, 1308x lemuel_entry_cross, 1294x lemuel_entry_hallway, 1291x lemuel_entry_rhombus, 944x lemuel_coloured_pillars_altar, 911x dragon1_lemuel, 90... 00:22:36 6 mp outta be enough for anyone 00:22:40 heh 00:22:55 !lg * map~~lemuel !D:1 s=map 00:22:57 34462 games for * (map~~lemuel !D:1): 3056x lemuel_castle_with_subvaults, 1762x lemuel_doored_altar, 944x lemuel_coloured_pillars_altar, 911x dragon1_lemuel, 880x lemuel_flame_loot_1, 853x lemuel_entry_lava_pool, 824x lemuel_entry_tunnels, 823x lemuel_entry_rhombus, 818x lemuel_entry_muddy, 806x lemuel_entry_funnel, 802x lemuel_entry_cross, 802x lemuel_ice_spiral_2, 780x lemuel_castle_with_subvaul... 00:23:07 I feel like I should probably decide on a helpal theme 00:23:11 there are so many options... 00:23:14 next time I get shoals I guess I have to do vaultss 00:23:15 hepliaklqana! 00:23:24 that's a name, not a theme! 00:23:26 !lg * kmap~~lemuel s=br 00:23:27 13552 games for * (kmap~~lemuel): 11931x D, 942x Lair, 298x Orc, 175x Pan, 105x Zot, 77x Depths, 8x Temple, 8x Geh, 5x Spider, Dis, Elf, Crypt 00:24:03 currently deciding between (a) demon, (b) ancestor, (c) psyche/persona [shameless]. leaning toward b. 00:24:22 Your demonic ancestry asserts itself... 00:24:22 yeah, ancestor would certainly be unique 00:24:36 ha! 00:24:40 I guess it gets weird if we add a jelly donut species 00:25:16 fr 00:25:53 grunt_food_slimin_donuts 00:26:15 hm, I don't think we even have a consistent naming scheme for food vaults 00:26:40 in pfcrawl, rather than removing food types, we added them. 00:26:51 -!- West1C_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:26:51 I'm sure that 00:26:51 27 different food items sounds about right 00:26:54 it provides its players 00:26:56 with some real 00:26:57 !glasses 00:26:58 ( •_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) 00:26:59 food for thought 00:27:00 food for thought? 00:27:02 how many fruit types? 00:27:02 mm 00:27:20 gammafunk: one for each size category 00:27:38 however, SIZE_GIANT fruit is actually an enemy 00:27:47 as long as we get sultanas and rambutans back 00:27:52 An almost entirely huge snozzcucumber comes into view. 00:27:58 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: Reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold, BYE] 00:27:59 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1109-gfc003ac (34) 00:28:02 I mean, they are back. in a sense. 00:28:11 kvaak: chokos 00:28:29 Here: the dreaded Chokostorm. 00:28:31 chokos already had chokowaru 00:28:56 remove wiglaf [okawaru worshipper], replace with Chokostorm [chokowaru worshipper] 00:29:03 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:29:05 also just remove wiglaf generally 00:29:37 then you have to remove jorgrun too 00:29:41 can't have two last dwarves 00:29:56 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:30:03 isn't that backwards 00:30:07 yes 00:30:23 Grunt: also, I found that the rune vault placement in spider is really variable in terms of how frequent each map is 00:30:38 the mapstat sheet in that spreadsheet shows the % with this new vault included 00:30:40 gammafunk: I've noticed that too 00:30:47 yeah, figured you already knew 00:30:51 I have never been able to figure out exactly why 00:31:00 That layout must make it hard for some vaults 00:31:06 but e.g. spider_rune_water places significantly more often than it really should 00:31:18 yeah and grunt_spider_rune_island 00:31:20 is 6% 00:31:22 (not looking at the numbers; just going from memory) 00:31:35 compared to that one you mentioned at 27% 00:31:38 27.5% 00:31:41 _island is big 00:31:57 yeah, I think I know the one 00:32:03 big outer area 00:32:18 johnsteins is also only 7% 00:32:24 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:32:28 float orient plus larger size 00:32:30 big vaults place less 00:32:32 I wonder why 00:32:33 <.< 00:32:43 but Floodkiller's is even bigger, yet places well do to South orient 00:32:46 maybe also squareness? 00:32:52 s/do to/due to/ 00:32:52 possibly 00:32:54 !shrug 00:32:55 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 00:33:14 something I'll point out is that _water and _circles have double the weight 00:33:24 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:33:26 oh 00:33:29 so given six vaults, I'd expect those two to place at about 25% each 00:33:34 well, that pretty much accounts for it 00:33:37 yeah they're close 00:33:39 given seven, it'd be 22% each 00:33:42 I didn't even realize 00:33:51 so _circles is where it should be 00:33:56 _water is placing too often 00:34:07 right, but not nearly as bad as I'd though 00:34:11 this is only 200 iterations 00:34:19 hm 00:34:21 so a lot of the diff could be variance 00:34:30 is there a weight for the new one 00:34:32 -!- West1C has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:34:39 nope 00:34:42 k 00:34:54 did you have both variants in when running this or 00:34:58 just the one 00:35:00 no just one 00:35:03 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:35:04 hrm 00:35:06 and seven vaults, like you say 00:35:11 placing unusually well for a vault of that size then 00:35:18 I'd expect 1/9 = 11% for it 00:35:23 like guppyfry and parallel 00:35:25 yeah, hrm 00:35:27 let me see 00:35:54 http://sprunge.us/efIQ 00:35:58 full mapstat 00:36:04 showing vetoes etc 00:36:08 SPRUNG 00:36:45 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:36:56 looks like this is just straight up random variance in that case 00:37:14 !vault grunt_spider_rune_circles 00:37:15 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/spider.des#l1475 00:37:27 oh, this one 00:37:29 phew, as long as it's not deterministic variance! 00:37:34 yeah 00:37:43 I deliberately designed _circles to be fairly plain 00:37:50 at the time only _water existed 00:38:05 actually I think guppyfry's also existed then 00:38:11 a classic, of coruse 00:38:13 *course 00:38:15 well let me try a mibe with this, only thing I probably have time for 2nite 00:38:19 when evilmike added it in he weighted guppyfry's lower 00:38:29 or maybe the lower weight preceeded adding _circles 00:38:33 !shrug 00:38:33 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 00:39:17 !lm * recent br.end=spider mibe turns>20000 00:39:19 769. [2016-01-16 03:35:41] rjrrt the Executioner (L18 MiBe of Trog) reached level 4 of the Spider Nest on turn 33357. (Spider:4) 00:39:25 !lm * recent br.end=spider mibe turns>18000 00:39:26 784. [2016-01-16 03:35:41] rjrrt the Executioner (L18 MiBe of Trog) reached level 4 of the Spider Nest on turn 33357. (Spider:4) 00:39:27 " For a joke language, Grunt is actually pretty handy. It gives out nice little reminders that the base game doesn't. " 00:39:34 it what 00:39:42 ... 00:39:51 * * * don't die * * * 00:39:52 I assume 00:39:56 :) 00:40:13 I dutifully ignore advice like this 00:40:18 same 00:40:32 someone asked 'just started playing online. is there anything I should add to my rcfile' 00:40:35 sa is helpful 00:40:38 learn add advice 00:40:48 hah 00:41:08 !lm * recent br.end=spider mibe turns>20000 x=avg(ac),avg(ev),avg(mhp),avg(xl),avg(str),avg(dex),avg(int) 00:41:09 769 milestones for * (recent br.end=spider mibe turns>20000): avg(ac)=30.57; avg(ev)=11.73; avg(mhp)=159.17; avg(xl)=16.78; avg(str)=27.4; avg(dex)=16.18; avg(int)=5.82 00:41:53 !lm * recent br.end=spider mibe turns>20000 s=sk 00:41:55 769 milestones for * (recent br.end=spider mibe turns>20000): 364x Axes, 131x Fighting, 95x Maces & Flails, 65x Armour, 49x Long Blades, 30x Shields, 24x Polearms, 7x Dodging, 2x Crossbows, Unarmed Combat, Staves 00:46:27 hm 00:46:43 any idea why killing something with Freeze would fail to remove it from the list of god companions? 00:46:51 when iron shot, shatter, etc work 00:47:05 I assume it's something about freeze being too special for its own good 00:47:05 questionable coding? 00:47:10 ya 00:49:14 hm 00:49:16 !seen wheals 00:49:16 I last saw wheals at Fri Jan 15 19:58:36 2016 UTC (9h 50m 39s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: Leaving'. 00:49:37 it's really strange to me that enslave soul keeps actual physical copies of enemy weapons 00:49:46 copies? idk 00:49:56 but that spectres are carrying physical weapons and armour, anyway 00:56:37 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 00:56:43 -!- nikheizen has quit [Client Quit] 00:57:23 Floodkiller: for the water-logged entrance, if you'd like it to be bendy like it was with the rock, you can do that with just stone 00:57:46 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:58:27 I only said to remove it because the player is strongly incentivized to dig the rock....since there's not a ton of enemies at the entrance that's going to be favorable dry ground most of the time I think 00:58:45 but if it's stone they have to move in over water 00:59:17 breaking los with something like a bend is often good for the player though, so a straight path is nice for not doing that 00:59:50 not sure these choke points on line 54 are a great idea 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:30 they are in water both sides, so people who aren't cautious will try to use them and fight poorly, but most people know when's a good time to use flight 01:00:41 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:00:41 at which point it's a great kill spot 01:01:07 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:01:07 ahh, weird timing thing: freeze angers the familiar before it dies, which means it's no longer a companion, which means that it doesn't get removed from the companion list (!), which breaks shit 01:01:15 if it were a two-tile opening still filled with water it'd be less useful to players overall 01:02:18 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 01:03:07 Floodkiller: also, your sarcophagus isn't really blocking apport 01:03:29 I'd maybe make a little wall running horizontally with opening on either side 01:03:41 then they can see past the sarcophagus and see there's a rune there, but still not apport 01:04:10 you can make it fancier with a wall on the back and put the rune between two sarcophagi if you like 01:04:26 I randomly got a book in the middle of the rune vault 01:04:33 it was a book of annihilations!!!! 01:04:38 !lcs Grunt 01:04:38 gammafunk points at Grunt and mumbles some strange words. The crystal spear hits Grunt!!! 01:05:19 gammafunk: so do you mean something like xGx in front of the rune? 01:05:31 yeah but extending far to the sides 01:05:36 so that you can't just apport from a corner 01:05:43 well 01:05:45 not far I gues 01:05:54 but I think probably 01:05:57 a bit far? 01:05:59 since someone could move in 01:06:01 I wasn't sure if plants blocked apport at all, but I guess not if it didn't work 01:06:12 I didn't get any plants 01:06:37 the sarcophagus is just a statue, so it does block apport in line of fire, but of course it won't block if you're not cardinal to the rune 01:07:00 so if you make walls extend a ways either side, probably just three tiles either dir 01:07:08 hrm 01:07:12 I guess someone could blink 01:07:16 and use that as a kill hall 01:07:22 but that's kind of cool at the ame time 01:07:29 you can use a non-linear structure to hide it as well 01:07:47 but the sarcophagus in the center to reveal is cool 01:08:01 I think xxxGxxx would be good enough 01:08:12 if someone is crazy enough to blink back there, more power to them 01:09:02 I guess that also gives a way for enchanters to actually beat the vault 01:09:08 since the whole thing basically shuts them down 01:09:14 well 01:09:17 they don't sinv do they? 01:09:23 @??death_scarab 01:09:23 death scarab (06B) | Spd: 30 | HD: 8 | HP: 24-33 | AC/EV: 7/14 | Dam: 3013(scarab) | 07undead, evil, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(60), 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 760 | Sz: little | Int: animal. 01:09:27 spectres do 01:09:37 ah, well that's cool 01:09:50 yeah I mean there's risk still 01:10:15 I quaffed agil and used ab before entering, saw a huge mass of B and Z and miasma, and summoned two bia 01:10:21 then a scarab slowed me 01:10:24 so I zerked 01:10:35 and one bia died quickly but the other trucked on a bit 01:10:40 and was able to ride out the zerk 01:10:53 it was dramatic, which is good 01:11:02 RIDE OUT THE ZERK 01:11:04 wooo 01:11:45 PleasingFungus: Ride out the Zerk is the top rollercoaster attraction at the theme park we're all going to chip in to make 01:11:58 wow, you're so generous 01:12:04 to fund a rollercoaster all on your own! 01:12:07 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1109-gfc003ac (34) 01:12:08 also, I'm still working on the pull request btw 01:12:20 turns out it's hard to follow directions at midnight 01:12:31 Hey, does anyone here happen to use notepad++ to edit code? 01:12:41 that sounds roughly like my imagination of escaping while under xom berserk 01:13:06 running away holding your weapons while and screaming AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 01:13:15 -while 01:13:28 I got a xom zerk my current game, they're pretty great 01:13:48 also got two exp pots shoved down my throat within like 1k turns of each other 01:14:15 Take this instrument of something! 01:14:48 -!- alvarops has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:15:35 wow 01:15:41 _x - 66 chokos 01:15:49 idea: what if we put reachcleaving, not on all scythes, but specifically on Finisher 01:16:23 does it cleave on the entire area or just the targeted square-shaped circle 01:16:43 I was assuming the whole area 01:16:49 Does reachcleaving cleave the area around you or your target? Or both? 01:16:57 around you 01:17:08 I mean this is all hypothetical 01:17:17 this is just my first thought 01:17:18 that seems weird to me 01:17:25 you're reaching to attack a square two tiles away 01:17:30 and also attack adjacently? 01:17:36 but another blade in it 01:17:37 problem solved 01:17:59 gammafunk: you're swinging a huge circle all around yourself! 01:18:01 just like with axes 01:18:04 but bigger! 01:18:48 Well I'm not a big fan of it, since we don't really do this with other unrand weapons, fundamentally change their...attack delivery 01:18:54 we do have weird things like gyre and gimble 01:19:00 (why) 01:19:03 hmm, I think I did the pull request wrong, it's trying to push to master from the branch I made for it 01:19:27 you made a branch in your clone with the map? 01:19:30 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1109-gfc003ac (34) 01:19:48 the PR should be made to master of the official crawl repo 01:20:06 gammafunk: I guess you could make it its own fake weapon type, like with sniper or w/e. but what's as cool as a scythe? 01:20:25 ??sniper 01:20:26 sniper[1/1]: The +15 heavy crossbow "Sniper" {velocity, SInv}. A triple crossbow with 27 base delay. 01:20:53 PleasingFungus: I dunno, I feel you can make it badass with like weird "not direct melee" effects or something 01:20:54 okay, so it is supposed to direct to master 01:20:58 or wyrmbane, spriggan's knife, autumn katan 01:21:03 gammafunk: ? 01:21:28 like, an unrand scythe that doesn't introduce a new melee targetter, I mean 01:21:39 New branch created: pull/220 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/220 01:21:39 03Floodkiller02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/220 * 0.18-a0-1110-g210541f: Add floodkiller_spider_rune_tomb with 5000 weight to force testing. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 64+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/210541fcf555 01:22:11 That's a heavy vault. 01:22:15 I closed that because I was fixing it to remove the weight if it was going to master 01:22:17 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 01:22:26 does gozag wrath no longer turn gold into stones 01:22:36 Floodkiller: ok, but the commit title would ideally be something like "A new undead-theme Spider rune vault" 01:22:52 and then a nice little speech about what its notable features are in the commit 01:23:04 gammafunk: fair point, a new targetter is probably too much code for an unrand. I guess. majin-bo added some code, but... 01:23:05 doesn't have to be more than a a few sentences 01:23:06 or is the learndb entry incomplete 01:23:07 yeah, that's the message I put in for my own branch, didn't mean to push with that one 01:23:15 PleasingFungus: I mean, we have shilelgelegelge 01:23:29 haha 01:23:35 sheelaylee 01:23:36 but that one is kind of really annoying in the codebase 01:23:48 it's special-cased in melee-attack.cc in an awful way 01:24:03 this wouldn't need that I guess, but I'm not sure 01:24:27 clearly add a new weapon type that does this 01:24:43 PleasingFungus: but yeah you can still give it some new cool OP-ish effect 01:24:50 like make it summon friggin reapers 01:24:53 haha 01:24:58 I liked the reachcleave idea 01:25:06 you saw people talking about putting it on scythes generally? 01:25:09 It would win you infinite points with neil 01:25:12 shillelagh 01:25:20