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Or paralyse or banish you. 00:03:16 ??crazy yiuf[5 00:03:16 crazy yiuf[5/5]: The maces were hammers back when hammers were a thing. 00:03:27 hrm. no mention of escaping the dungeon with yiuf? 00:04:31 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:04:54 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:10:07 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:14:07 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:14:40 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:15:20 a what? 00:15:48 A flat 2 piety increase. 00:15:51 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 00:20:02 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 00:28:11 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1045-g4e042de (34) 00:31:31 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:33:17 <|amethyst> hm... I could make this work with rvalues, but I think that might be more likely to lead to errors 00:34:50 <|amethyst> because it would be easy to end up with an lvalue reference to a destructed rvalue 00:35:10 <|amethyst> I guess an all-rvalues version that returns an rvalue reference wouldn't be so bad 00:37:32 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:37:58 !gitgrep 1 [Dd]ismissal 00:37:58 %git HEAD^{/[Dd]ismissal} 00:37:58 07gammafunk02 * 0.18-a0-1036-g7ac1859: Fix jewellery tiles and add a temporary tile for mana regeneration 10(2 days ago, 6 files, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7ac1859f2614 00:41:53 hahaha 00:42:00 what's up with the room entirely full of fountains? 00:43:02 snack on cszo just found a room on d:2 that was like roughly a 12 wide circle almost totally full of fountains 00:44:58 http://i.imgur.com/eX4mlUo.png 00:44:59 like such 00:45:40 that's... a subst glitch 00:45:42 I'm guessing 00:45:45 badly written vault 00:46:01 this is a kennysheep vault, I believe 00:46:02 let me find it 00:48:24 looks like it is: kennysheep_big_flodded_room 00:48:28 let me figure out what the substs are doing 00:48:34 s/dded/oded/ 00:48:43 !vault kennysheep_big_flooded_room 00:48:44 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/float.des#l6155 00:49:19 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:50:37 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:50:45 okay, yes, this is a really low chance of happening, but it can happen 00:54:54 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:55:11 ??plan 00:55:11 plan[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:release_plans 00:55:52 <|amethyst> could also be all statues, can't it? 00:56:15 like making it all fountains incredibly rarely would be cool 00:56:30 haha 00:56:30 <|amethyst> that's what happens, and it does seem intentional 00:56:47 i mean, it's funny 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:09:12 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:10:52 !seen Henzell 01:10:52 I last saw Henzell at Tue Nov 19 21:11:35 2013 UTC (about 2y 7w 5d 8h 59m 16s ago) joining the channel. 01:11:39 umm 01:11:50 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1045-g4e042de (34) 01:12:30 ??bots 01:12:30 bots[1/3]: Bots that can be pm'd: announcement bots: Henzell (CAO, !), Gretell (CDO, @), Sizzell (CSZO, %), Lantell (CLAN, $), Rotatell (CBRO, ^), Eksell (CXC, |); others: Varmin, Cheibriados (%), and Sequell (! ?? & and others) 01:13:04 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 01:13:21 hooray 01:13:22 <|amethyst> I forgot to restart it when the machine rebooted last week 01:13:34 !seen Henzell 01:13:34 I last saw Henzell at Tue Nov 19 21:11:35 2013 UTC (about 2y 7w 5d 9h 1m 58s ago) joining the channel. 01:13:41 !seen |amethyst 01:13:42 I last saw |amethyst at Mon Jan 11 06:13:21 2016 UTC (20s ago) saying 'I forgot to restart it when the machine rebooted last week' on ##crawl-dev. 01:13:45 <|amethyst> sequell ignores bots 01:13:48 ahh 01:13:49 <|amethyst> !seen cheibriados 01:13:49 I last saw Cheibriados at Tue Nov 26 19:21:35 2013 UTC (about 2y 6w 5d 10h 52m 14s ago) joining the channel. 01:14:04 <|amethyst> !seen sequell 01:14:04 Sorry |amethyst, I haven't seen sequell. 01:14:07 <|amethyst> !seen varmin 01:14:07 I last saw varmin at Sat Jan 9 03:21:30 2016 UTC (2d 2h 52m 36s ago) joining the channel. 01:14:17 !seen Eksell 01:14:17 I last saw Eksell at Sat Nov 1 18:04:52 2014 UTC (about 1y 10w 1d 12h 9m 24s ago) saying 'Medar (L17 OgWn) killed Roxanne. (Spider:3)' on ##crawl. 01:14:26 I'm immortal 01:19:40 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1045-g4e042de (34) 01:20:56 <|amethyst> @??-version 01:20:57 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.18-a0-1043-g4533410 01:21:57 <|amethyst> ah, that does seem to be automatically scheduled, just later 01:26:58 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:30:58 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:46:45 ??plan 01:46:46 plan[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:release_plans 01:53:49 ??eksell 01:53:49 Eksell[1/1]: The {CXC} announcement bot, which uses | as a prefix. 01:53:53 ??cxc 01:53:53 cXc[1/2]: Server in France: CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM -- ssh port 22, username crawl, uses CAO key (available at http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM/crawl/keys/). Webtiles address: http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM 01:57:25 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1045-g4e042de 01:59:10 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:59:36 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:03:18 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:03:48 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:19:39 =O 02:19:43 rip david bowie 02:29:18 -!- nikheizen has left ##crawl-dev 02:30:04 rip 02:33:29 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:37:17 -!- ololoev is now known as ruplayers 02:37:33 -!- maldini has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:37:49 -!- ruplayers is now known as ololoev 02:38:01 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:39:09 -!- chewymouse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:39:34 -!- chewymouse has joined ##crawl-dev 02:39:44 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 02:44:44 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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Maybe Travis is having an off day 09:10:34 seems to be crashing in stress tests, so maybe it's an actual bug 09:10:46 hmm yeah 09:10:50 interesting 09:11:06 agent->is_player 09:11:08 could agent be null in monster::hurt? 09:11:11 agent can be null 09:11:12 ah! 09:11:13 yeah 09:11:15 maybe so 09:11:28 also what's with those braces?!?!? 09:11:45 I probably checked if agent was null in the last place I used agent->is-player 09:12:17 The braces on DID_HURT_FOE? 09:13:05 yeah, those need formatting 09:13:20 just meant the if in hurt :) 09:13:20 no, on the if 09:13:55 unfortunately, C++ just starts looking like that (in godconduct.cc) eventually 09:17:42 Oh, haha, I accidentally used the formatting I use at work 09:17:49 damn conflicting standards! 09:20:59 -!- omniscient has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:21:51 -!- chonchonts has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:26:31 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:26:34 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 09:29:16 -!- 18WABRIGL has quit [Client Quit] 09:30:35 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:40:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:44:12 -!- maldini has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:44:24 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:47:36 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:50:55 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 09:50:56 The build has errored. 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Pikaro, XL11 HEWn, T:26003 (milestone): http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/Pikaro/crash-Pikaro-20160111-172719.txt 12:57:15 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:03:59 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 13:11:37 -!- mekhami has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.3] 13:14:00 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:14:38 -!- maldini has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:16:37 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:16:41 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:16:55 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 13:29:00 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:36:31 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:37:03 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:39:02 03Nicholas Rosswood02 07* 0.18-a0-1046-g794c6f8: Burn Spellbooks no longer factors rarity into cloud duration. 10(14 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/794c6f8afb8c 13:39:02 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1047-g50c9d35: Merge pull request #214 from nikheizen/dev 10(6 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/50c9d358e29b 13:39:06 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:48 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:40:41 strange, travis hasn't run on #211 13:42:32 -!- vev has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:42:53 -!- spupuser1 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:42:54 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:43:04 03edsrzf02 07* 0.18-a0-1022-g2a4ab4c: Show monster health in webtiles with tile_display_mode = glyphs 10(4 days ago, 2 files, 49+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2a4ab4c50384 13:43:04 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1049-g691853f: Merge pull request #209 from edsrzf/webtiles-glyphs-monster-health 10(6 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/691853fd8602 13:44:31 ? 13:45:01 i guess it's better than nothing, as is 13:45:46 03regret-index02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.18-a0-994-g047427f: Zig stacking: slow down floor-filling, scale sets instead 10(8 days ago, 1 file, 266+ 121-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/047427f35020 13:45:46 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1051-gd918d17: Merge pull request #207 from crawl/zig-stacking 10(5 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d918d17b9fda 13:47:18 -!- njorth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:48:33 03johnstein02 07* 0.18-a0-817-g7b79664: Sometimes upgrade plain decks for Nem worshipers 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7b7966442ff2 13:48:33 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1053-g08e9ab1: Merge pull request #201 from jmbjr/js-nemelex-cardlevel 10(5 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/08e9ab1cd0e5 13:49:30 -!- tealeaves has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:51:07 -!- tealeaves has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:54:50 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:56:00 -!- tealeaves has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:59:17 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:59:17 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01:10 er, disagree with merging that zig patch 14:01:17 at least as-is 14:04:06 !tell PleasingFungus That zig-stacking patch shouldn't have been merged in the original form imo 14:04:07 gammafunk: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 14:04:43 -!- WebFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:04:55 gammafunk: didn't know there were objections, or I wouldn't have merged it 14:05:07 this is why you need to leave comments on the PR! 14:05:12 yeah, you might have missed some of the discussion on that when the PR was made 14:05:28 I think the set scaling is fine, but removing the floor filling was a mistake 14:05:41 or rather reducing it 14:05:49 it was quite slow as it was 14:06:25 also not all of the set changes were good, but I didn't go through them all 14:07:45 feel free to revert 14:07:53 or, hm, I wonder if I could...? 14:08:03 ok, maybe I'll do that and try to work on it sooner rather than later 14:08:40 oh, you mean revert through github? 14:08:43 the idea is good i think but some of the set changes i'm not sure about either 14:08:52 New branch created: revert-207-zig-stacking (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/revert-207-zig-stacking 14:08:52 03PleasingFungus02 07[revert-207-zig-stacking] * 0.18-a0-1054-g887a372: Revert "Zig stacking: slow down floor-filling, scale sets instead" 10(7 seconds ago, 1 file, 121+ 266-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/887a372733b3 14:09:16 WebFungus: why not just click on the big revert button! 14:09:17 in that they seem like they'd push certain floors further into the territory of being way scarier than any other floor type 14:09:23 -!- Guest37737 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:09:24 MarvinPA: actually, what do you think of the floor filling? I don't think reducing it is great since it's just a big nerf, but floor filling is also a bit weird inherently 14:09:31 wheals: that's what happened when I clicked on the big revert button...... 14:09:37 huh 14:10:23 i don't think floor filling is necessarily great, reducing or slowing it a bit seems maybe fine 14:10:38 i've not really experienced the actual progression though 14:10:52 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1054-g887a372: Revert "Zig stacking: slow down floor-filling, scale sets instead" 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 121+ 266-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/887a372733b3 14:10:52 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-1055-gc0d36d4: Merge pull request #215 from crawl/revert-207-zig-stacking 10(7 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c0d36d40bf82 14:10:53 New branch created: pull/215 (0 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/215 14:10:56 since when it was merged i just when from zero scaling to maxed out megazigs 14:11:12 woah 14:11:14 went* 14:11:27 It takes I want to say like 6 zigs 14:11:37 6-8 to max it out? 14:11:46 i vaguely remember it being 13 but i might be pulling that from nowhere 14:11:56 hm, I have no idea what's going on with this UI. going to stop poking at it before I break things 14:12:09 yeah, that might be the max; before then you see really full floors in the 6-8 territory 14:12:11 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:12:24 03edsrzf02 07* 0.18-a0-1041-g867f5f3: Fix targeting in webtiles with tile_display_mode = glyphs|hybrid (#8286) 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 23+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/867f5f3b845f 14:12:24 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-1057-g88203af: Merge pull request #210 from edsrzf/webtiles-glyphs-targeting 10(5 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/88203af1e460 14:12:47 I mean, it seems to me that clearing 5 easier zigs or so is enough 14:12:51 of a warmup 14:13:15 especially since you get like all-27 by that time, and your choice of god-gear 14:13:39 My biggest concern though is what happens in zig no. 1 14:13:59 since that actually has 3-rune game ramifications, especially the first 10 floors or so 14:14:02 esp the first - yeah 14:14:15 WebFungus: no *esp* the first 14:14:26 say no to ESP! 14:14:31 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:14:32 fr: "ESP 14:14:36 anyway yeah my main concern is that filling tomb floors with nothing but gmummies and tar floors with extra silent spectres (and slime with giant eyeballs maybe) would just make them absurdly scary compared to everything else no matter what 14:14:39 xom grants esp, sometimes 14:15:09 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:15:26 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 14:16:18 silent spectres are maybe the only really big one 14:17:15 they're neat when there are just a bunch scattered around and you have to fight your way to them and clear out a pocket of non-silence though 14:17:23 Yeah 14:19:48 Perhaps an los filled with smiting monsters on every square is also kind of absurd 14:20:15 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:20:21 oh yeah daeva floors might be quite something 14:20:52 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:21:01 I personally hate zig players and want them to suffer 14:21:07 but possibly I shouldn't be designing zig sets 14:21:30 WebFungus: well, I mean you can take the position that further zigs are just supposed to try to kill you 14:22:07 I think the problem with silent specters in huge numbers (and same for giant eyeballs) is they're popcorn with this one big mallus 14:22:20 WebFungus: you shouldn't design things for players you don't want to suffer 14:22:42 giant eyeballs probably die to shatter i guess 14:22:49 But it's kind of just inherently weird because for many zigs, smiting is about all that gmummies can do that's meaningful 14:23:09 death cursing? 14:23:14 Yeah eyeballs do have low hp; daevas might get somewhere with holy melee versus the almost-certainly-undead char 14:23:21 @??daeva 14:23:22 daeva (08A) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 96-139 | AC/EV: 10/11 | Dam: 25, 10 | 08holy, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(140), 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 08holy | XP: 1865 | Sp: smiting (7-17) [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 14:23:41 I guess it's only in their brand 14:24:13 i don't always bother exiting lichform for holy floors, yeah 14:25:20 need seraphim 14:26:06 @??seraph 14:26:07 seraph (13A) | Spd: 15 | HD: 25 | HP: 181-243 | AC/EV: 20/19 | Dam: 50, 20 | 08holy, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, priest, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(160), 04fire+++, 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 08holy | XP: 11186 | Sp: hunting cry [11!AM, 08breath], sum.holies [11!AM], injury bond [11!AM], cleansing flame [11!AM], smiting (7-17) [11!AM], minor healing (2d12) .. 14:26:26 I mean, we have pan lords. why not seraphim? 14:26:33 anyway i think silent spectres are my main concern, they're great if rare but probably a bit silly otherwise. imo current megazigs do an okay job at trying to kill the player (i've had some near misses at least) 14:26:44 but changing some of the scaling away from monster numbers and towards monster types definitely sounds good 14:28:32 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest62533 14:28:42 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:29:54 -!- Guest62533 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:32:40 R shows your equipped jewellery if you're wearing a cursed ring with an uncursed one 14:32:43 is that intentional 14:32:55 I'm fairly sure that wasn't the case before 14:33:14 -!- ldierk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:33:56 sounds like a MarvinPA ui consistency change 14:34:06 ugh 14:34:06 I approve 14:34:21 I'm not sure that has ever been different, not for removing 14:34:25 maybe I'm wrong 14:34:53 I mean there is also the amulet slot 14:35:47 I don't have an amulet but it seems you're right, I just fired up .14 trunk 14:35:48 weird 14:35:50 so hey, I need an absurdly strong 5* power for combogod -- I don't know what it should do, but it should fit the following criteria: 1) be the single strongest ability in the game; 2) affect a large area and/or interact with positioning. Anyone got something like that they've been sitting on that doesn't currently have a home? 14:36:26 kvaak: does it skip the prompt if you only have one item equipped? 14:36:42 yes 14:36:46 I guess I was thinking of that 14:37:02 right 14:37:30 Lasty_: "cblink" 14:37:33 well, I prefer jewellery_prompt = true anyway, that totally should be the default :P 14:38:02 MarvinPA: so yeah, that already exists. What does cBlink+ look like? 14:38:32 Dischord + cBlink? :D 14:38:47 prompt for position of all the enemies 14:38:50 also rock walls 14:39:01 (not a serious suggestion, also i think 1) is a poorly defined criterion probably? since cblink i imagine isn't actually super ridiculous if you can only use it when you hit max piety with combogod) 14:39:10 mega-disjunction: teleport everything in LOS out of LOS 14:39:32 like by definition this isn't going to be the strongest ability in the game :P 14:40:09 -!- maldini has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:40:47 do you mainly get piety for dealing damage, or taking damage, or both? if the former then some emergency button seems like it wouldn't be super useful 14:42:17 ?? combogod 14:42:17 I don't have a page labeled combogod in my learndb. 14:44:16 MarvinPA: yeah, true. I guess what I'm getting at is that this ability should be a flashy reward for hitting 5*, because hitting 5* will be hard 14:44:56 Right now I have it set to piety for 1) successfully dealing damage, and 2) some additional hp for the proportional quantity of hp removed from the target 14:44:59 so it's all offense 14:45:29 do you get piety by waiting for a monster to regen 14:45:32 kvaak: this is inspired by some posts on tavern about a god with extremely high piety gain/loss -- basically within fights only 14:45:34 the idea that the right response in a tight spot might be 'attack a little more so you can get the piety to get out' would be neat 14:45:41 ^ 14:45:42 agreed 14:45:59 The 2* ability will have some escape potentially, but not be amazing for disengaging 14:46:14 how about chaaaaaaarge 14:46:26 crawl needs more chaaaaarge 14:46:33 Leeeeeroy jenkins! 14:47:12 How is piety lost? Just aggressively over aut? 14:47:18 gammafunk: yes 14:47:37 where Sif has 1 in 100 chance to lose 1 piety, this god loses 5 piety. 14:47:53 well re: what kvaak said, do I want to lure a fairly weak monster that happens to have a lot of hp around with me? 14:48:01 The numbers are probably going to need tweaking, but 5 seems to be the right order of magnitude 14:48:02 so I can wack it like a pinnata 14:48:15 what's an example monster, here? 14:48:32 Well what are example numbers, I guess 14:48:36 worm, goblin 14:48:38 I'm saying generally this could be an issue 14:48:42 goblin has no hp 14:48:45 yak 14:48:49 gammafunk: I'm not worrying about that now, but I've considered scaling piety gain by a ratio based on your xl and the monster's hd 14:48:53 ok 14:48:54 worm only has nonzero hp before you actually get to a god 14:49:05 yak is not actually especially weak 14:49:12 @??yak 14:49:12 yak (07Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 33-44 | AC/EV: 4/7 | Dam: 18 | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 204 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 14:49:20 WebFungus: depends on the part of the game you're in 14:49:21 it is fairly weak when it appears 14:49:26 disagree... 14:49:27 well yeah it is at certain points and certainly with certain ac/ev profiles 14:49:29 but yeah, if luring monsters is an issue, it's easy to fix 14:49:37 also, do we seriously not have a 'charge toward target enemy' ability? 14:49:41 we do not 14:49:44 right, it depends on your numbers, scaling 14:49:44 crazy 14:49:45 jump was removed 14:49:46 Power Leap 14:49:51 power leap works in any direction 14:49:52 yeah power leap 14:49:58 and it has short range so it's not even good for chaaaaaarging 14:49:59 N1000 was working on a "fire charge" type spell 14:50:09 jump attack was removed because it was dumb, and we all agree about that 14:50:16 :( 14:50:26 yet none of you were thinking about jump dragons 14:50:31 shame on you 14:50:33 For this god, will the "You now have/no longer have the ability to X" messages be squelched? 14:50:50 I specifically made it so you could have jumping dragons, kvaak 14:50:58 Then, I took those jumping dragons away from you 14:50:59 nikheizen: no, those will still be important. However, there will be no "you gain piety" messages, because they'd happen constantly 14:51:09 the cruelest dev of all... 14:51:41 I guess I don't know what all the god will do with other abilities 14:51:51 would help to understand that better to know what's good for 5* 14:51:58 Also by "hard to get", how hard do you mean 14:52:08 Just make the ***** omnislash. 14:54:03 gammafunk: fair point. 1* is a "stomp" ability that deals a fraction of victim maxhp to surrounding monsters; it's meant to be "party opener" attack that can combo into more piety if you're surrounded. 2* is going to be Wulndraste's 2* ability, Blend In, but reflavored and possibly with damage instead of confuse. 3* is still up in the air. 14:54:38 4* I'm thinking sets up a status on each monster that makes it deal damage to monsters near it when it takes damage; the damage decays with distance, but does allow for chain reactions. 14:54:56 3* should probably involve some positioning support 14:54:58 Lasty_: is stomp inspired by Kung Fu Hustle (be honest) 14:55:09 is 1* a piety-costing ability? 14:55:13 ebering: well, that or any other fantastical martial arts movie 14:55:16 strongly recommend AGAINST honesty 14:55:18 gammafunk: yes 14:55:43 ebering: but the god's theme is ecstatic dance, not martial arts 14:55:46 Lasty_: theres specifically a scene in KFH where the hero stomps the feet of surrounding axe gangsters in rapid succession 14:55:48 and you say that piety decays quickly, does that decay taper off in some way so it's easy to keep...say 3* (or some level significantly above excommunication) 14:56:00 which is why I ask 14:56:40 4* sounds kind of cool 14:56:50 gammafunk: right now piety decays at a uniform speed down to *. I'm toying with the idea of having the minimum decay piety be a proportion of the highest piety you've ever gained, but I'm not sure it's a good idea to set up an incentive to rig a big fight 14:57:09 sounds a little sketchy 14:57:44 hrm, so I guess you'd stomp every fight, but you run the risk of going to 0*? 14:58:01 gammafunk: you don't always want to stomp -- if there are too few targets, you lose piety on it instead of gain 14:58:11 should the % damage be currhp rather than maxhp? as implemented you can 4shot anything, right? (with a bunch of invocations) 14:58:32 assuming you get surrounded and it's gaining enough piety to keep reusing 14:58:47 MarvinPA: depending on target AC, it takes about 5 shots at 27 invo for non-trivial HP targets 14:58:52 I'm fine with that 14:58:55 at least for now 14:59:06 MarvinPA: it also takes 4 mp 14:59:07 and say at like 10 invo 14:59:13 it would take a lot more? 14:59:21 yeah, it'd take ~10 14:59:30 it's invo% of maxhp 14:59:41 oh ok 15:00:01 At low invo, the effect is mainly just a way to gain piety when surrounded 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:05 ah ok, didn't see it was affected by ac (but that makes sense) 15:00:33 the advantage of currhp would be that it falls off in effectiveness over a fight though, so you're encouraged to use your other abilities instead 15:00:37 true 15:00:39 right 15:00:40 rather than just spam the first one 15:00:47 that might be worth it on its own 15:00:49 but yeah at least there's an invo (and ac) dependency 15:01:06 I think that's a good consideration -- I'll change it around when I get a chance 15:01:19 would it be reasonable to also consider ev 15:01:47 this is orthogonal to the currhp/maxhp thing, I'm just thinking 15:02:00 oh wait, how does the "comboing" work, again? 15:02:05 Reducing damage based on EV or giving a chance to miss based on EV? 15:02:40 gammafunk: well, there's no comboing per se; it's just that your piety builds quickly as you keep hurting things, and then you get to spend it on flashy effects to make it feel worthwhile. 15:02:43 the latter seems simpler 15:03:08 but since many of the effects damage their targets, you can climb the piety ladder by chaining powers 15:03:11 Lasty_: I see the god also restores hp based on damage you've dealt? 15:03:17 no 15:03:20 there's no vampiric element 15:03:27 oh I saw something about hp restored 15:03:40 I might have been scribbling notes somewhere 15:03:52 "Right now I have it set to piety for 1) successfully dealing damage, and 2) some additional hp for the proportional quantity of hp removed from the target" 15:04:04 oh, typo 15:04:07 probably supposed to be "some additional piety"? 15:04:09 that should read "some additional piety" 15:04:10 ah, ok 15:04:17 I had been wondering 15:04:19 but it seemed reasonable 15:04:24 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:04:52 It's never reasonable to wonder. All realizations must be immediate and decisive. 15:04:56 One idea I was toying with did involve adding a sort of vampirism; another involved adding damage reduction based on piety. I'm not sure either is going to end up in the design right now. 15:05:27 -!- WebFungus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:05:41 I may still have it give you !might/!agility/!brilliance if you hit 6* 15:05:57 What i'm getting at is that the powers design is still pretty fluid 15:06:00 -!- tealeaves has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:07:22 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:07:47 You say getting to 5* will be really difficult, right? So in the event that you do make it there, the fight should be mostly over I think. 15:07:51 is the concept basically extremely volatile piety 15:07:56 DrKe: yes 15:08:02 nikheizen: yes 15:08:20 Why not make 5* a decisive show stopper a la Apocalypse+ 15:08:22 Hrm, it sounds like keeping up piety meter and spamming these abilities could replace melee/spells to a large extent in fights 15:08:33 DrKe: specifically extremely volatile piety within fights, pushing the player towards an aggressive playstyle 15:09:04 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:09:12 gammafunk: yeah. I want to allow that to a certain degree but not to the extent that it fully replaces melee/spells 15:09:30 Well those abilities will probably need to be such that 15:09:33 gammafunk: I think it should be challenging to keep the piety pool up enough to do that 15:09:37 the piety cost is pretty darn high 15:09:48 The cheapest ability will cost 20 piety 15:09:49 yeah 6* should give you some passive boost 15:09:55 maybe something like fortitude 15:10:14 (or maybe even 25 -- just not 30, because then you can excommunicate yourself) 15:11:02 nikheizen: the main reason not to make it Apoc+ is that it would step on the toes of Ru and Qazlal 15:11:18 I guess the flow of the fight should go something like (for melee) 1*->melee (xN for N < 10)->ability->melee(x for N < 10)->ability... 15:11:23 They already have two distinctive forms of AOE destruction. I'd like to come up with something more novel. 15:11:42 gammafunk: yeah, something like that 15:11:51 single target destruction? 15:11:56 Give you a way to keep fighting? 15:12:13 gammafunk: or replace melee with "Dazzling Spray/Fulminant Prism/Fireball/Cloud Spell/etc" 15:12:28 -!- totalnoob has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:12:31 DrKe: that's an idea: blow up a single target like crazy. 15:13:13 DrKe: or maybe even telegib a target to add a positioning element 15:13:38 Telegib sounds good 15:13:48 Lets you keep comboing 15:15:17 something to move you from target to target in some way sounds like a good way of doing a positioning ability, yeah 15:15:35 Omnislash anyone? 15:15:39 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:15:44 isn't that what 3* already is 15:15:51 or was it 2* 15:16:07 re: omnislash 15:16:08 2* lets you move through a chain of targets 15:16:14 which is omnislashish 15:16:25 dota omnislash then 15:16:26 ok 15:16:45 Let's check the omnislashepedia 15:17:06 oh ok, i didn't know what blend in actually does (and was going to ask but forgot!) 15:18:54 It's a beam targeter that requires 1) that all but the last position in the beam be a monster, and 2) that the target position be empty. It then blinks you to the target position and applies an effect (formerly confuse) to the monsters passed through. 15:18:57 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:20:05 ah right, having that be "do a melee attack" to each one seems maybe good then! 15:20:09 wield an axe for the full battlefury juggernaut experience 15:20:43 MarvinPA: tho it makes the god a bit melee-centric -- what if you do it while holding staff of energy or a bow? 15:20:53 don't forget to ignore armor on the cleaved targets 15:20:56 magic missile! 15:21:17 it's kind of incredible how it took like 10 years of dota to fix that 15:21:22 haha 15:21:27 and only because people started abusing it in a silly minigame 15:21:39 I'm pretty sure cleave damage still ignores armour. 15:21:43 DotA has been around for 10 years? Is it the future now? 15:22:07 more than 10 years im sure 15:22:12 It checks target Armour for the primary, but doesn't for the additional targets. 15:22:24 that doesn't sound quite right 15:22:41 pretty sure that's how it works yeah 15:22:43 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:22:49 I'm 99% sure they changed that when people started cleaving the diretide boss 15:23:54 You might be thinking of armour type or damage block, armour itself doesn't reduce cleave damage in any way. 15:24:17 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:22 the diretide roshan just got cleave immunity apparently 15:24:44 oh. huh. 15:24:46 (##dota-dev) 15:25:21 does our holy lord gaben frequent the channel 15:25:43 gaben only frequents ##mcdonalds 15:25:44 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest65272 15:28:52 So if a mass-destruction showstopper is out of the question for 5*, I like DrKe's idea of single-target destruction. You probably cleared through the chaff getting to 5*, so only the big threats will be left to clean up. 15:29:13 was chaaaaaaarge implemented at any point 15:29:24 kvaak: n1k is working on a charge spell 15:29:43 nikheizen: yeah, I'm leaning towards telefrag as 5* 15:30:06 nikheizen: AOE isn't out of the question, but it has to feel different than existing ones 15:30:16 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:30:51 I much prefer the thought of a god ability so you're guaranteed to get it 15:31:13 then again a god that encouraged charging would probably encourage tabbing blindly towards enemies, ie playing badly 15:31:40 Well this god will likely do a lot of that already 15:32:00 true. 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