00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01:47 -!- jefus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:02:52 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1041-gbe91bf5 (34) 00:04:50 -!- maldini has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:05:09 Stable (0.17) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17.1-2-g5865329 00:07:48 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:09:20 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:12:36 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:16:43 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 00:17:00 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:18:04 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:19:26 Shard1697: i'm happy to see a rapier if i started sblades but am not a stabber. like on --Cj or --Ar or something like that 00:19:51 it's a big upgrade over a dagger without the investment of switching to a whole different skill 00:21:08 I suppose. usually when I'm playing short blades I end up finding a nice brand on a dagger or shortsword before I find a rapier 00:21:23 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:21:25 since they're more common 00:22:13 spells:none is not enough to stop the power of Rakshasa 00:22:33 they still weave defensive illusions when taking damage, and manage to fool Pakellas into thinking the experiment ended 00:24:29 ??pakellas[experiment 00:24:30 I don't have a page labeled pakellas[experiment in my learndb. 00:24:31 -!- meatpath has quit [Client Quit] 00:24:33 The green ugly thing falls into the lava! The green ugly thing is incinerated. 00:24:37 _Pakellas says, "Just as I predicted!" 00:25:20 experiment? 00:25:30 altar overflow vaults I made 00:25:32 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 43.0.4/20160105164030]] 00:25:35 about to add another one 00:25:45 ah 00:26:00 Pakellas says, "They called me mad... but we'll show them all!" 00:26:25 of these 00:26:27 gargoyle ; nothing / deep elf knight ; nothing / manticore / cyclops \ / hydra / deep elf annihilator ; nothing / very ugly thing \ / fire dragon / ice dragon / boulder beetle / sphinx \ / tengu reaver ; nothing 00:26:45 which can never defeat a lightning spire behind bushes 00:27:02 and which almost always wins (maybe always, but I think it can lose) 00:27:50 mm, interesting 00:27:59 win meaning it has to kill the spire with ranged or destroy the bush and melee the spire 00:28:07 *destory a bush 00:28:14 *destroy 00:28:27 I assume this is the spec as written, i.e. the spellcasters still have their spells 00:28:31 yes 00:28:37 exactly the monster def you see there 00:28:48 so they lose any melee weapon (but can still melee, of course) 00:29:02 de knight is going to lose consistently 00:29:09 gargoyle I think has a reasonable chance of winning 00:29:26 manticore and cyclops I could see going either way but I am leaning to believe they will win 00:29:32 (enough ranged damage to do so) 00:29:48 hydra will lose (it will have too much trouble killing the bushes) 00:30:01 de annihilator will usually win (it can get off bolt spells to do so) 00:30:21 v ugly thing will probably win (should hit hard enough to get through bushes) 00:30:37 fire and ice dragons will win with breath attacks 00:31:00 boulder beetle should be able to power through the bushes (esp if if gets a roll attack in) but may also be too slow to kill spire before it di es 00:31:07 sphinx will win through smiting 00:31:12 te reaver will win through bolt attacks 00:31:19 how close am I? <.< 00:31:44 Well I've conducted relatively few trials, but since you've given a detailed breakdown I'll report my results 00:31:55 for science!!! 00:31:56 de knight has won about half time, as has the gargoyle 00:32:02 that's surprising re de knight 00:32:06 manticore has one 1 out 3 00:32:11 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 00:32:14 cyclops has literally never lost 00:32:17 ha 00:32:19 over like 9 tries 00:32:35 hydra very often loses, but has won (many heads) 00:32:46 deep elf annih does little until it does lcs 00:32:50 and then the spire dies :) 00:33:00 it's not lost but I think it def can; it was nearly dead all times 00:33:08 very ugly thing quite often loses 00:33:12 oh right, I guess the major bolt spell it has is 00:33:13 unless it's cyan :) 00:33:14 lightning bolt 00:33:21 which 00:33:21 well 00:33:21 yep 00:33:21 isn't going to do much 00:33:27 but yeah, LCS the bush 00:33:29 what's weird is the ui of ugly things is such that they don't hit bushes as much 00:33:31 very viable strategy!!! 00:33:49 >.> 00:33:50 they wander a lot but eventually start attacking the bush; not sure if it's just rng or something weird about them 00:34:17 fire dragons and ice dragons tend to soften up with bushes but do usally kill it with melee, seem to win <50% of fights 00:34:30 fire dragons do a bit better 00:34:47 boulder beetles won 2 /3 (rolling into bushes <3 ) 00:35:03 sphinx never seem to smite, and lost like 3/4 fights 00:35:06 o_O 00:35:13 again, maybe just rng 00:35:28 reaver has won one and lost one (only two trials), and yeah corrosive bolt one-shot it 00:35:30 buff smiting 00:35:33 when it did win 00:35:47 so spires pretty OP 00:36:02 -!- meatpath has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 00:37:51 -!- jefus- has joined ##crawl-dev 00:39:47 hm looks like the oubliette branch is still 0.17 00:40:12 tried a simple rebase and ran into a lot of conflicts. was hoping it would just magically work :) 00:40:23 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:40:26 -!- jefus- is now known as jefus 00:42:45 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:43:00 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 00:49:26 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 00:51:57 it's probably not a difficult rebase 00:52:12 I'd do it but I think dpeg is working on it and has local, unpushed commits 00:52:25 so maybe I'll rebase (or someone will) when he next pushes 00:52:50 but yeah I'd not worry about rebasing too much, since 0.18 doesn't change much directly related to that 00:53:55 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:55:29 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:57:37 I tried the rebase. most of it looked easy probably. I'm just not an expert on enums 00:57:38 was also surprised to see some conflicts that didn't seem related to oubliettes 00:57:57 it compiled. I'll try it in a bit to see what hidden things I screwed up 00:58:27 I figure if I do anything it will mainly be vaults which won't really matter if I got the rebase perfect 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:21 personally i'd rather merge than rebase, for a branch that old, so that there's an explicit merge commit and you can see how that differs from either parent 01:02:02 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 01:06:42 03gammafunk02 07* 0.18-a0-1042-ge6a8a1f: Fix and simplify tags in some vaults 10(29 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e6a8a1f1c1ed 01:06:42 03gammafunk02 07* 0.18-a0-1043-g4533410: Another Pakellas experiment overflow altar 10(27 minutes ago, 1 file, 70+ 32-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4533410805c6 01:07:08 amalloy: yeah actually I would merge (and have been for that branch) 01:07:38 gammafunk: I approve of this commit message 01:07:47 !lbolt Grunt 01:07:50 rip 01:11:43 Stable (0.17) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17.1-2-g5865329 01:13:16 -!- serq has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:13:53 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 01:14:23 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17.1-2-g5865329 (34) 01:15:19 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1043-g4533410 (34) 01:15:27 !lg * map~~experiment 01:15:28 1. Nausicaa the Chucker (L3 OgHu), mangled by an iron imp (summoned by Natasha) on D:2 (gammafunk_pakellas_statue_experiment) on 2015-12-22 15:39:51, with 24 points after 1827 turns and 0:04:22. 01:19:24 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1043-g4533410 (34) 01:19:41 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:19:50 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:19:57 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 01:24:27 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:25:45 -!- FireSight has quit [] 01:27:15 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:28:37 -!- meatpath has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 01:37:46 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:39:49 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:53:59 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1043-g4533410 01:54:25 keep getting a crash playing oubliette. I made a branch via: &L*LL and did it. then tried to make another one 01:54:29 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/dev/morgue/johnstein/crash-johnstein-20160110-065254.txt 01:54:45 maybe I can't do two in the same game? 01:55:05 (fyi, I have a test version on dbro) 01:58:59 -!- CeNe_of_Oka has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:19 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:02:03 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:02:03 -!- Harudoku_ is now known as Harudoku 02:06:57 -!- maldini has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:18:19 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:24:18 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:25:04 -!- Koboldina has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:27:50 -!- eb has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:31:54 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 02:35:55 -!- vev has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:37:24 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:43:58 -!- falu has quit [Client Quit] 02:47:58 -!- Evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:48:21 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest49270 02:48:45 -!- Crawl_Bacchus has quit [Quit: Look what I got, Bart, a Tickle-Me Krusty doll!] 02:53:12 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1043-g4533410 02:59:37 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02:33 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:04:47 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:06:18 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:11:53 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1043-g4533410 (34) 03:19:37 -!- cptnsalsa has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:20:55 -!- FireSight has quit [] 03:21:06 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:24:16 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:26:45 -!- Guest49270 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:27:57 -!- Idolo has quit [] 03:29:14 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:55:59 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:57:56 -!- Beef-Takeout has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:20:42 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 04:23:51 -!- edsrzf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:25:13 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:30:28 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:30:54 -!- Alarkh has joined ##crawl-dev 04:36:24 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 04:51:43 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:52:46 -!- maldini has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:53:06 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:55:59 -!- Dixlet has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:12:02 -!- maldini has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:35:41 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 05:44:23 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:45:16 -!- beogh has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:05 -!- flappity has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:01:50 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:05:02 -!- WhodaMan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:13:07 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 06:17:55 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:20:59 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 06:26:46 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:28:55 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 06:47:24 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:51:49 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:54:26 -!- Alarkh has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:54:38 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 06:54:55 Two suggestions for the runes screen: 06:55:09 1) print and order by turn on which the rune was collected 06:55:41 2) add something like "(you will find more Abyss exits)" to the abyssical rune line (after collected) 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:06:06 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:10:06 -!- grimmulfr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:14:35 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:27:24 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 07:43:04 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:47:35 -!- fazisi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:57:17 -!- altaj has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:02:46 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 08:21:15 -!- vev_ is now known as vev 08:28:43 -!- Reverie has joined ##crawl-dev 08:30:36 the only message you get about abyssal exit spawning is when you pick up the rune, so making that effect more visible would be good 08:30:46 but it's a strange exception 08:30:51 -but 08:35:11 chequers: I know. Part of my plan is to introduce more exceptions later on :) Very mild ones, such as slimy rune ==> immune to acidic walls. But interface first! 08:37:04 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 08:38:22 -!- doy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:39:03 -!- doy has joined ##crawl-dev 08:44:00 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 08:44:10 sorry, my Windows connection is so damn unstable 08:46:45 -!- doy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:46:45 -!- Dirtsage has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:47:39 -!- doy has joined ##crawl-dev 09:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:07:36 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:13:43 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:15:54 -!- namellastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:16:21 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:24:15 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:28:44 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:40:32 -!- kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 09:41:58 would you say trunk is stable enough to run dieselrobin in? 09:42:05 ??dieselrobin 09:42:05 dieselrobin[1/7]: Signups open in ##dieselrobin. Rules & Info: http://kramell.mooo.com/dieselrobin/rules 09:42:44 I *may* change the date, just setting things up now really 09:43:35 I think it should be fine 09:47:56 kramin: will you announce on CDO? 09:48:25 yeah 09:48:28 haven't yet 09:48:37 I am not good enough to diesel. 09:48:42 heh 09:48:43 * dpeg runs on coal. 09:51:27 !calc 24+16 09:51:28 40 09:53:33 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 09:55:17 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 09:55:54 dear summoned monsters: please stop acting after your summoner is dead 09:56:04 kvaak: isn't it just one turn? 09:56:11 -!- Dirtsage has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:58:49 -!- Ketsa has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 10:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:11:32 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 10:12:31 -!- Dirtsage has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:13:38 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 10:15:03 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 10:39:47 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 10:44:45 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:58:36 !send dpeg kerosene 10:58:37 Sending kerosene to dpeg. 10:58:55 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01:55 -!- radinms has quit [] 11:05:13 -!- dpeg is now known as rotorpeg 11:09:26 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:09:35 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:13:54 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:16:24 -!- Crawl_Bacchus has quit [Quit: Look what I got, Bart, a Tickle-Me Krusty doll!] 11:21:05 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:23:40 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:25:10 -!- sysice has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:33:03 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:44:42 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:52:20 is there any particular reason ring of resist corrosion isn't ring of corrosion resistance or ring of poison resistance isn't ring of resist poison 11:54:45 the reason I chose to leave it the same is that "ring of protection from corrosion" would be the longest item name in the game, and the amulet went for years as "resist corrosion" 11:54:55 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 11:56:51 <|amethyst> it would be the same length as "naga barding of speedy slithering" 11:57:13 ring of anticorrosive energy 11:57:25 ring of structural integrity 11:57:36 ring of untropy 11:57:39 <|amethyst> ring of base 11:59:22 <|amethyst> ...buffering... 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:13 hey, so many devs around if you come up with the right questions :) 12:00:49 ring of alkaline 12:00:55 Casting EH on Confused monster resulted in it being asleep, yet moving as if confused 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10230 by Jarlyk 12:01:08 <|amethyst> yay sleepwalking 12:01:21 I'll ask again if anyone objects to the following additions to the runes screen (I'd put these as implementables somewhere): 1. print and order turncount for each collected rune. 2. if the abyssical rune is collected, add "(increased generated of Abyss exits"). 12:01:39 In 100 years, all bugs in Crawl will be fixed and all development will have stopped and Mantis will just be a place to point out that confused/EH'd monsters sleepwalk. 12:01:45 <3 12:01:55 Lasty: and someone will say, sleepily: "not a bug" 12:02:08 rotorpeg: don't be silly, the robots will do that 12:02:11 while we hibernate 12:02:23 * rotorpeg is looking forward to ensorcellation 12:02:31 <|amethyst> probably it would help if the monster description said " (sleepwalking)" 12:02:37 yes 12:03:14 true 12:04:39 food here 12:04:45 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:04:47 I just got this in my 0.17 game: http://i.imgur.com/ljl3WoL.png 12:04:56 on CPO, upon entering lair:6 12:05:05 <|amethyst> oh wait 12:05:07 <|amethyst> it does 12:05:12 <|amethyst> Here: a goblin, wielding a club (confused, sleepwalking) 12:05:15 heh 12:05:21 and yet!! 12:06:33 <|amethyst> zxc: !tell chequers and maybe retype the message so it will be easier for him to copy-paste 12:06:55 <|amethyst> "0.17.0" seems weird---did CPO not update the stable branch 12:06:57 <|amethyst> ? 12:07:03 rotorpeg: you might also want to note that monster generation increases, if you're mentioning the exit thing? not sure how to say that all succinctly 12:07:03 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 12:07:07 not sure that's the right place for it... hm 12:07:36 <|amethyst> oh right, I can't check CPO 12:07:40 <|amethyst> well 12:07:46 <|amethyst> I'll have to use a web browser 12:08:05 -!- Mekanik has quit [Quit: Buy...] 12:08:19 for whatever reason, it's 0.17 not 0.17.1 12:08:25 it's always been like this 12:08:33 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:08:33 !tell wheals yeah, what we probably want to do is set join = false earlier, based on the message channel. equipment? I may poke at it eventually... maybe. 12:08:34 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let wheals know. 12:08:40 -!- Mekanik has quit [Client Quit] 12:08:40 I've told chequers and typed out the msg 12:08:54 shall I just hit a key? 12:09:00 <|amethyst> yeah 12:09:13 <|amethyst> I think chequers has seen a similar bug about des cachess before 12:09:29 -!- kramin has left ##crawl-dev 12:09:44 OK to resume my game? 12:09:55 <|amethyst> should be 12:10:02 <|amethyst> the bug is I think mostly independent of the game 12:10:14 <|amethyst> you'll note that it's a sprint map it's complaining about :) 12:10:15 I think I was rolled back a floor 12:10:27 yep 12:10:48 <|amethyst> !tell chequers also, when are you going to update 0.17? :) 12:10:48 |amethyst: OK, I'll let chequers know. 12:11:09 I've had sprint-related bug msgs while entering new floors so many times before 12:11:15 but not for months 12:18:12 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:24:01 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:31 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 12:32:51 fun story: players have hp_max, monsters have max_hit_points. 12:35:02 <|amethyst> Lasty: you're just picking the low-hanging fruit :) 12:35:06 <|amethyst> Lasty: IMO ench vs dur 12:35:14 <|amethyst> that's the fun story 12:35:20 <|amethyst> particularly the timescales 12:35:23 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:35:43 |amethyst: well, yes 12:36:01 attr vs dur... 12:36:09 but that's such a big thing that it's harder to trip over 12:37:19 <|amethyst> it's less like tripping and more like falling into a wood chipper 12:37:23 durations for enchantments vs durations is definitely a thing that gets tripped over a lot :P 12:37:27 haha, yes 12:37:34 also wow that sentence 12:37:57 durations for durations 12:38:06 -!- rotorpeg is now known as dpeg 12:38:34 PleasingFungus: "(more exits and more monsters spawn now in the Abyss)" 12:39:28 hm 12:39:40 I'm just not sure that menu is the right place for it. 12:42:03 * dpeg will keep trying 12:42:55 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:43:03 is there a message when you pick up the abyss rune? 12:43:14 that feels reasonable, if there's not one there already. 12:44:45 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:47:46 <|amethyst> I think it would be nice to have stuff like that persistently 12:47:49 <|amethyst> somewhere 12:48:09 I mean, it's something that should be in the abyss description if it's not already, probably 12:48:15 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:48:18 but no one will ever look at that 12:48:29 <|amethyst> not sure anyone looks at } either 12:48:31 PleasingFungus: there's "_You feel the abyssal rune guiding you out of this place." (i don't know what the context is here though) 12:48:31 -!- Dirtsage has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:48:52 <|amethyst> but it sounds like dpeg has ideas for other runes to do similar things to their branches 12:48:53 ah, right 12:49:03 that's meant to indicate that you get more exits 12:49:03 I'll ask again if anyone objects to the following additions to the runes screen (I'd put these as implementables somewhere): 1. print and order turncount for each collected rune. 2. if the abyssical rune is collected, add "(increased generated of Abyss exits"). 12:49:31 also, abyssical is a great word. 12:49:34 aha 12:49:51 <|amethyst> and then 12:50:04 <|amethyst> err, before then 12:50:07 <|amethyst> chequers: I know. Part of my plan is to introduce more exceptions later on :) Very mild ones, such as slimy rune ==> immune to acidic walls. But interface first! 12:50:24 ah 12:50:42 would that ever be useful? 12:50:54 I guess if you wanted to clear slime after getting the rune? 12:50:57 <|amethyst> would make it easier to 12:50:58 <|amethyst> yeah 12:54:15 that's the wrong approach 12:54:50 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:54:58 it should be that after you get the slimy rune, you begin converting to a slime, and eventually you become a new the Royal Jelly, and return to the Slime Pits 12:55:04 hmm, if ambrosia is made to bypass clarity and still confuse you, should it also bypass zin vitalisation 12:55:28 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: IMO the difference there is that clarity is permanent 12:55:37 <|amethyst> (-ish) 12:56:14 <|amethyst> but I suppose it wouldn't hurt either way 12:56:30 simpler to make it bypass vit too, I think 12:56:32 hmm yeah, i was tending not bypassing vitalisation, but then it's sort of still just as inconsistent as currently 12:56:37 tending towards* 12:56:42 in terms of code & in terms of player understanding 12:56:59 gods already "inconsistently" override stuff 12:57:10 what about in terms of getting drunk as **** on spider-wine? 12:57:12 <|amethyst> does vitalisation cancel existing confusion? 12:57:15 particularly with respect to confusion 12:57:29 no (and you can't use it while confused) 12:58:24 spider-wine...! 12:58:28 geekosaur: actually nothing bypasses clarity any more i'm pretty sure, this would be the first exception 12:58:40 god wraths and things did used to, but not anymore 12:58:59 MarvinPA: no sources of confusion bypass clarity, you mean? 12:59:13 yeah 12:59:44 !lg walkerboh x=dam 12:59:45 2221. [dam=13] WalkerBoh the Scratcher (L3 FeCK of Xom), blasted by Jessica (nerve-wracking pain) on D:3 on 2016-01-10 17:57:57, with 57 points after 3455 turns and 0:07:15. 12:59:53 ^ jessica can do 13 damage w/ pain now? 13:00:00 <|amethyst> @??jessica 13:00:00 Jessica (15@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 8-11 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Dam: 5 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(10) | Vul: 08holy | XP: 37 | Sp: pain (d14), slow, haste, blink | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 13:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:06 whoa 13:00:26 <|amethyst> beam.damage = dice_def(1, 7 + (power / 20)); 13:00:31 <|amethyst> hm 13:00:31 I must have been looking at Chei 13:00:46 Her power is 140? 13:00:49 <|amethyst> @?? jessica spells:magic_dart 13:00:49 Invalid spell slot format: 'magic dart' in 'magic_dart' 13:00:53 <|amethyst> @?? jessica spells:magic_dart.200.wizard 13:00:54 Jessica (15@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 8-11 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Dam: 5 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(10) | Vul: 08holy | XP: 25 | Sp: magic dart (3d4) | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 13:01:29 <|amethyst> yeah, that doesn't make sense 13:01:38 <|amethyst> hm 13:01:51 <|amethyst> @?? jessica spells:bolt_of_draining.200.wizard 13:01:51 Jessica (15@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 8-11 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Dam: 5 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(10) | Vul: 08holy | XP: 25 | Sp: b.draining (3d9) | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 13:02:14 <|amethyst> that one is acting as though power is <13 13:02:14 <|amethyst> oh 13:02:16 <|amethyst> I wonder 13:02:32 <|amethyst> if beam.damage is actually used for Pain (because it's an enchantment) 13:02:43 ah, maybe not 13:02:59 <|amethyst> hm 13:03:04 <|amethyst> internal_ouch(damage.roll()); 13:03:24 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:03:52 looks like everyone who can cast Pain right now is doing d14 13:03:55 @?? grinder 13:03:55 Grinder (025) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 31-45 | AC/EV: 3/11 | Dam: 1105(pain) | 05demonic, 10items, 10doors, unholy, see invisible | Res: 06magic(20), 02cold++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 275 | Sp: pain (d14) [06!sil], paralyse [06!sil], blink [06!sil] | Sz: little | Int: human. 13:03:57 @?? grinder 13:03:57 Grinder (025) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 31-45 | AC/EV: 3/11 | Dam: 1105(pain) | 05demonic, 10items, 10doors, unholy, see invisible | Res: 06magic(20), 02cold++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 275 | Sp: pain (d14) [06!sil], paralyse [06!sil], blink [06!sil] | Sz: little | Int: human. 13:04:01 er 13:04:04 Grinder (025) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 40 | AC/EV: 3/11 | Dam: 1105(pain) | 05demonic, 10items, 10doors, evil, see invisible | Res: 06magic(20), 02cold++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 281 | Sp: pain (d10) [06!sil], paralyse [06!sil], blink [06!sil] | Sz: little | Int: human. 13:04:04 %?? grinder 13:04:28 -!- falu has quit [Client Quit] 13:04:49 <|amethyst> wha 13:05:05 Jessica (15@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 10 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(10) | Vul: 08holy | XP: 37 | Sp: pain (d7), slow, haste, blink | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 13:05:05 <|amethyst> %0.16?jessica 13:05:11 Jessica (15@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 10 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(10) | Vul: 08holy | XP: 1727 | Sp: pain (d13), slow, haste, blink | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 13:05:11 <|amethyst> %0.16?jessica hd:10 13:05:14 Jessica (15@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 10 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(10) | Vul: 08holy | XP: 2261 | Sp: pain (d14), slow, haste, blink | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 13:05:14 <|amethyst> %0.16?jessica hd:12 13:05:26 <|amethyst> @?? jessica hd:12 13:05:26 Jessica (15@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 96-134 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Dam: 5 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(10) | Vul: 08holy | XP: 9266 | Sp: pain (d14), slow, haste, blink | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 13:05:29 <|amethyst> @?? jessica hd:100 13:05:29 Jessica (15@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 100 | HP: 796-1090 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 5 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(10) | Vul: 08holy | XP: 4526242 | Sp: pain (d67), slow, haste, blink | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 13:05:32 <|amethyst> @?? jessica hd:1 13:05:32 Jessica (15@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 8-11 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Dam: 5 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(10) | Vul: 08holy | XP: 37 | Sp: pain (d14), slow, haste, blink | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 13:05:34 <|amethyst> @?? jessica hd:2 13:05:35 Jessica (15@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 2 | HP: 16-22 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Dam: 5 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(10) | Vul: 08holy | XP: 213 | Sp: pain (d14), slow, haste, blink | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 13:05:38 <|amethyst> @?? jessica hd:15 13:05:38 Jessica (15@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 117-166 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Dam: 5 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(10) | Vul: 08holy | XP: 17100 | Sp: pain (d16), slow, haste, blink | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 13:07:14 Lasty. |amethyst: yes 13:07:20 this is known and intended 13:07:20 %git e28b6dcf818 13:07:20 07wheals02 * 0.17-a0-2100-ge28b6dc: Revert "Fix monster Pain (#10018)." 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e28b6dcf8182 13:07:32 oh 13:07:53 Jessica (15@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 10 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(4) | Vul: 08holy | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 25 | Sp: pain (d7), slow, haste, blink | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 13:07:53 <|amethyst> %0.14?jessica 13:08:12 !source ENCH_POW_FACTOR 13:08:12 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-cast.h#l30 13:08:24 wait, it's known and intended for jessica to have max pain damage? 13:08:31 huh, that doesn't seem ideal 13:08:48 "spellpower for pain is at least 150" is a really weird choice 13:08:49 <|amethyst> hmwell 13:09:03 As opposed to "pain spellpower tops out at 150" 13:09:05 <|amethyst> I think the idea is that the success rate should be based on at least 150 spellpower 13:09:22 ah 13:09:27 <|amethyst> at least, ISTR that coming up in the conversation 13:09:57 The commit message says the old behavior is rather strange, but is it? 13:10:13 <|amethyst> "old behaviour" as in what it was being reverted to 13:10:29 ah 13:10:34 <|amethyst> I guess really we'd want the special case the ench_power computation 13:10:39 <|amethyst> not the power computation 13:10:50 yeah, sounds right 13:11:02 d14 jessica is considerably scarier than d7 jessica 13:11:17 !killratio jessica * recent 13:11:19 <|amethyst> in mons_spell_beam 13:11:22 jessica wins 4.665% of battles against * (recent). 13:11:29 !killratio jessica * cv=0.14 13:11:34 jessica wins 3.370% of battles against * (cv=0.14). 13:11:39 <|amethyst> !killratio jessica cv=0.16 13:11:40 <|amethyst> !killratio jessica cv=0.17 13:11:43 jessica wins 14.28% of battles against |amethyst. 13:11:44 Jessica (15@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 10 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(4) | Vul: 08holy | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 25 | Sp: pain (d7), slow, haste, blink | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 13:11:44 %0.12?jessica 13:11:46 jessica wins 22.22% of battles against |amethyst. 13:11:47 <|amethyst> err 13:11:53 rip 13:11:57 <|amethyst> !killratio jessica * cv=0.16 13:11:58 <|amethyst> !killratio jessica * cv=0.17 13:12:02 jessica wins 5.350% of battles against * (cv=0.16). 13:12:06 jessica wins 4.084% of battles against * (cv=0.17). 13:12:14 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:12:27 neat 13:12:59 !killatio jessica * 13:13:01 <|amethyst> !killratio grinder * cv=0.16 13:13:02 <|amethyst> !killratio grinder * cv=0.17 13:13:07 grinder wins 20.30% of battles against * (cv=0.16). 13:13:10 grinder wins 17.57% of battles against * (cv=0.17). 13:13:15 !killratio jessica * cv>0.17 13:13:19 <|amethyst> hm 13:13:20 jessica wins 3.976% of battles against * (cv>0.17). 13:13:26 <|amethyst> what got easier from 0.16 to 0.17? 13:13:39 <|amethyst> !killratio sigmund * cv=0.16 13:13:40 <|amethyst> !killratio sigmund * cv=0.17 13:13:45 sigmund wins 21.42% of battles against * (cv=0.16). 13:13:50 sigmund wins 19.85% of battles against * (cv=0.17). 13:13:58 quite possibly: nothing 13:14:00 @??orc priest 13:14:01 orc priest (03o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 3 | HP: 13-18 | AC/EV: 3/9 | Dam: 6 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest, evil | Res: 06magic(20) | Vul: 08holy | XP: 41 | Sp: pain (d14) [11!AM], cantrip [11!AM], smiting (7-17) [11!AM], heal other (2d1) [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 13:14:06 you probably want !meleebug 13:14:13 <|amethyst> ohh 13:14:22 <|amethyst> that was 0.16 though 13:14:32 <|amethyst> !kw meleebug 13:14:33 Keyword: meleebug => meleebug016|meleebugtrunk 13:14:37 <|amethyst> !kw meleebug016 13:14:38 Keyword: meleebug016 => vlong>=0.16-b1-18-g9590bb8 vlong<0.16.0-18-g484a79e 13:14:47 <|amethyst> !killratio sigmund * cv=0.16 meleebug 13:14:49 <|amethyst> !killratio sigmund * cv=0.16 !meleebug 13:14:52 sigmund wins 18.80% of battles against * (cv=0.16 meleebug). 13:14:57 sigmund wins 22.09% of battles against * (cv=0.16 !meleebug). 13:15:04 -!- sysice has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:15:23 !meleebug is mostly !t 13:15:29 something to keep in mind 13:15:42 <|amethyst> !killratio sigmund * cv=0.16 !meleebug !t16 13:15:44 Subcommand $(!lg * cv=0.16 !meleebug !t16 ikiller=sigmund fmt:"${n}" stub:"0") failed: Unknown tournament: t16 in $(= ${ratio} NaN) in $(if $(= ${ratio} NaN) No ba... 13:15:52 <|amethyst> !kw t 13:15:53 !kw 0.16t 13:15:54 Built-in: t => start>='2015-11-06 20:00:00' time<'2015-11-22 20:00:00' ((cv=0.17|0.17-a)) explbr= 13:15:54 No keyword '0.16t' 13:16:00 <|amethyst> !kw t0.16 13:16:01 Built-in: t0.16 => start>='2015-03-13 20:00:00' time<'2015-03-29 20:00:00' ((cv=0.16|0.16-a)) explbr= 13:16:01 ah that's why 13:16:08 <|amethyst> !killratio sigmund * cv=0.16 !meleebug !t0.16 13:16:13 sigmund wins 21.22% of battles against * (cv=0.16 !meleebug !t0.16). 13:16:15 <|amethyst> !killratio sigmund * cv=0.17 !t0.17 13:16:20 sigmund wins 20.53% of battles against * (cv=0.17 !t0.17). 13:16:24 <|amethyst> so closer 13:16:25 !killratio grinder * cv=0.16 !meleebug 13:16:29 grinder wins 21.92% of battles against * (cv=0.16 !meleebug). 13:16:32 !killratio jessica * cv=0.16 !meleebug 13:16:37 jessica wins 5.596% of battles against * (cv=0.16 !meleebug). 13:16:47 er 13:16:50 hm 13:17:01 <|amethyst> !killratio jessica * cv=0.16 !t0.16 !meleebug 13:17:06 jessica wins 5.602% of battles against * (cv=0.16 !t0.16 !meleebug). 13:17:07 <|amethyst> !killratio jessica * cv=0.17 !t0.17 13:17:12 jessica wins 4.165% of battles against * (cv=0.17 !t0.17). 13:17:22 <|amethyst> that one's still a significant drop 13:17:34 oh, and things like whatever weird things bots were doing, mayb 13:17:34 <|amethyst> @??jessica 13:17:34 Jessica (15@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 8-11 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Dam: 5 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(10) | Vul: 08holy | XP: 37 | Sp: pain (d14), slow, haste, blink | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 13:17:37 Jessica (15@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 10 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(4) | Vul: 08holy | XP: 25 | Sp: pain (d7), slow, haste, blink | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 13:17:37 <|amethyst> %?jessica 13:17:58 !killratio jessica greaterplayers * cv=0.16 !t016 !meleebug 13:17:59 Subcommand $(!lg greaterplayers * cv=0.16 !t016 !meleebug ikiller=jessica fmt:"${n}" stub:"0") failed: Unknown tournament: t016 in $(= ${ratio} NaN) in $(if $(= ${ratio} NaN) No ba... 13:18:02 !killratio jessica greaterplayers * cv=0.16 !t0.16 !meleebug 13:18:09 jessica wins 4.020% of battles against greaterplayers (* cv=0.16 !t0.16 !meleebug). 13:18:10 !killratio jessica greaterplayers * cv=0.17 !t0.17 13:18:15 jessica wins 4.761% of battles against greaterplayers (* cv=0.17 !t0.17). 13:18:21 heh 13:18:24 <|amethyst> s 13:18:25 <|amethyst> o 13:18:35 <|amethyst> Jessica is more effective against good players than bad, huh? 13:18:56 Or at least the jessica buff makes her more effective against good players than bad 13:18:59 <|amethyst> !killratio jessica . cv=0.17 !t0.17 13:19:03 jessica wins 0.0% of battles against |amethyst (cv=0.17 !t0.17). 13:19:11 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 13:19:11 <|amethyst> Lasty: I was comparing 4.761 to 4.165 13:19:14 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:19:26 <|amethyst> oh right 13:19:28 haha 13:19:32 <|amethyst> !killratio jessica . cv=0.18-a 13:19:35 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 43.0.4/20160105164030]] 13:19:35 jessica wins 0.0% of battles against |amethyst (cv=0.18-a). 13:19:40 <|amethyst> !killratio jessica . cv~~0.18 13:19:44 jessica wins 0.0% of battles against |amethyst (cv~~0.18). 13:19:44 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:19:53 <|amethyst> !lg . killer=jessica 13:19:54 53. neil the Chopper (L5 HOEn of Qazlal), blasted by Jessica (nerve-wracking pain) on D:3 on 2015-11-12 06:22:58, with 136 points after 2882 turns and 0:04:23. 13:19:58 <|amethyst> !lg . killer=jessica x=cv 13:19:59 53. [cv=0.17] neil the Chopper (L5 HOEn of Qazlal), blasted by Jessica (nerve-wracking pain) on D:3 on 2015-11-12 06:22:58, with 136 points after 2882 turns and 0:04:23. 13:20:04 <|amethyst> I guess that was t 13:20:17 hrm 13:20:20 !lg bots 13:20:21 No games for bots. 13:20:22 !lg bot 13:20:24 68887. Nakatomy the Grave Robber (L2 DENe), slain by an adder on D:2 on 2015-12-30 12:43:51, with 27 points after 1802 turns and 0:08:26. 13:20:31 !lg bot @greaterplayers 13:20:32 No games for bot (@greaterplayers). 13:20:34 ok, good 13:20:46 !lg bot @goodplayers 13:20:48 4053. qw the Acrobat (L27 NaBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-11-30 03:27:44, with 1781275 points after 65246 turns and 1:04:23. 13:21:00 !lg bot @goodplayers s=name 13:21:02 4053 games for bot (@goodplayers): 2111x qw, 1000x GauBot, 942x tstbtto 13:21:29 <|amethyst> goodplayers is easy to bot since you can play the same combo over and over 13:21:39 easy for some... 13:21:43 <|amethyst> !lg qw won s=char 13:21:44 18 games for qw (won): 9x GrBe, 3x DDBe, 2x NaBe, 2x DDGl, HOBe, MiBe 13:21:58 !lg qw won s=god 13:21:59 18 games for qw (won): 16x Trog, 2x Makhleb 13:22:12 <|amethyst> I guess those were the DDGl 13:22:29 tbh greatplayer would be easy to bot, although perhaps Fo would be a challenge 13:22:41 maybe things like Fe that qw didn't know how to handle 13:23:05 I wonder if qw could do DD of Pak (after learning about charging hw at full mp) 13:23:21 !lg qw won dd s=god 13:23:22 5 games for qw (won dd): 3x Trog, 2x Makhleb 13:23:33 <|amethyst> !lg * recent won dd s=god 13:23:35 524 games for * (recent won dd): 366x Makhleb, 65x Trog, 25x The Shining One, 22x Pakellas, 12x Elyvilon, 8x Ru, 6x Jiyva, 4x Cheibriados, 4x Nemelex Xobeh, 4x Lugonu, 2x Kikubaaqudgha, Okawaru, Sif Muna, Zin, Gozag, Fedhas, Ashenzari 13:23:46 I guess having it use evokers? not sure how well it does with those and rods 13:24:00 <|amethyst> gammafunk: or just staying with melee 13:24:03 but yeah doesn't sound too bad, since you still have infinite hw 13:24:04 could just not do that 13:24:32 sure it could, but it would increase it's winrate a lot to use them 13:24:35 *its 13:24:56 <|amethyst> assuming it can avoid zapping itself 13:25:12 that is important 13:25:23 only use things like \shadows ! 13:25:39 can you self-phial? 13:26:32 .gfgk -tv:channel=waterpalace:<3 13:26:33 72. us17, XL23 HOFi, T:59930 requested for waterpalace: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 13:26:48 .gfgk -tv:channel=waterpalace:<3:cancel 13:26:49 72. us17, XL23 HOFi, T:59930 cancel requested for waterpalace: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 13:26:52 .gfgk -tv:channel=waterpalace:<4 13:26:53 72. us17, XL23 HOFi, T:59930 requested for waterpalace: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 13:42:20 -!- olourkin has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:44:38 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:44:49 the real question is when a bot is designed that can win 15-runes 13:47:06 <|amethyst> !lm bot s=rune 13:47:08 952 milestones for bot: 224x gossamer, 197x serpentine, 169x decaying, 163x barnacled, 163x silver, 17x abyssal, 9x slimy, glowing, iron, icy, fiery, golden, obsidian, bone, demonic, magical, dark 13:47:20 if someone really put their mind to it I'd expect it shouldn't require a whole lot of work up from 3 runes 13:47:27 <|amethyst> !lg bot max=urune 13:47:28 68887. drasked the Englaciator (L27 DEIE of Vehumet), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-05-13 23:39:29, with 9489180 points after 184041 turns and 1d+7:57:01. 13:47:42 <|amethyst> &rc drasked 13:47:44 http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-0.16/drasked.rc 13:47:46 that doesn't look like a bot 13:48:05 <|amethyst> !nick bot 13:48:06 Mapping bot => autorobin xw auto7hm rw qw ow qwrobin gw notqw jw parabodrick hyperqwbe cashybrid tstbtto parabolic oppbolic ew rushxxi gaubot cojitobot paulcdejean otabotab nakatomy drasked testingqw beemell beem 13:48:17 !lm bot max=urune orb -tv 13:48:19 80. drasked, XL27 DEIE, T:182808 (milestone) requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 13:48:33 this is not a bot 13:48:42 !nick bot -rm drasked 13:48:43 Deleted drasked from bot => autorobin xw auto7hm rw qw ow qwrobin gw notqw jw parabodrick hyperqwbe cashybrid tstbtto parabolic oppbolic ew rushxxi gaubot cojitobot paulcdejean otabotab nakatomy drasked testingqw beemell beem 13:48:53 <|amethyst> !lg bot max=urune 13:48:54 68786. qw the Acrobat (L27 GrBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 5 runes on 2015-11-17 04:58:07, with 3427591 points after 63901 turns and 1:09:21. 13:50:52 I wonder how hard it would be to teach a bot to stairdance 13:51:10 some just don't have rhythm 13:52:03 !lg Drasked won min=dur 13:52:04 4. drasked the Slayer (L27 GrBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-04-28 15:04:18, with 1818163 points after 59131 turns and 1:22:39. 13:52:17 !lg bot won max=dur 13:52:19 66. Nakatomy the Conqueror (L27 MiFi of Okawaru), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-12-25 14:39:45, with 1696776 points after 71804 turns and 6:53:55. 13:52:31 &rc nakatomy 13:52:32 http://underhound.eu:81/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-0.17/Nakatomy.rc 13:52:46 probably those were bots at some point 13:52:57 I've never heard of either 13:53:05 <|amethyst> !lg nakatomy won min=dur 13:53:06 2. Nakatomy the Impregnable (L27 GrBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-07-29 23:19:13, with 1835985 points after 57639 turns and 2:18:31. 13:53:08 not that that proves anything 13:53:28 <|amethyst> if that is in fact the case, the question is which is better, false positives or false negatives 13:53:32 <|amethyst> or, maybe, have two nicks 13:53:43 false positives imo 13:53:47 bot2flesh 13:53:50 well me neither tbh 13:54:05 <|amethyst> let's see what IRC logs say 13:54:33 !lg draked s=char 13:54:34 No games for draked. 13:54:36 !lg drasked s=char 13:54:37 101 games for drasked: 40x GrBe, 15x DEIE, 15x OgHu, 9x HOFi, 5x MuWz, 4x MiBe, 3x TrMo, 2x CeBe, OpWz, DDBe, SpWz, DEFE, SpEn, DsCK, MuSu, OgNe 13:54:43 !lg nakatomy s=char 13:54:44 126 games for nakatomy: 40x MiFi, 13x SpEn, 10x GrEE, 7x DEFE, 7x DENe, 6x DDNe, 6x CeHu, 4x HEFE, 3x DEWz, 3x HEWz, 3x MiBe, 3x DECj, 3x HuNe, 2x DrFE, HOPr, DDBe, VSEn, GhFE, TrFE, TrBe, HuFi, OgHu, DsMo, HuHu, DDFi, DDHu, GrBe, HuAK, DESu, TrMo 13:54:54 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: Reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold, BYE] 13:54:58 <|amethyst> ??bots2 13:54:58 bots2 ~ bots[1/3]: Bots that can be pm'd: announcement bots: Henzell (CAO, !), Gretell (CDO, @), Sizzell (CSZO, %), Lantell (CLAN, $), Rotatell (CBRO, ^), Eksell (CXC, |); others: Varmin, Cheibriados (%), and Sequell (! ?? & and others) 13:55:01 <|amethyst> ??bots[2] 13:55:01 bots[2/3]: For bots that are written to play crawl instead of talking about it: !nick bot (includes human/bot hybrids such as cashybrid and parabolic). 13:55:09 not a lot of games so it probably won't ruin many stats 13:55:19 <|amethyst> I guess that could be considered a different type of human-bot hybrid 13:55:25 <|amethyst> werebot 13:55:56 <|amethyst> !nick bot Drasked 13:55:57 Mapping bot => autorobin xw auto7hm rw qw ow qwrobin gw notqw jw parabodrick hyperqwbe cashybrid tstbtto parabolic oppbolic ew rushxxi gaubot cojitobot paulcdejean otabotab nakatomy testingqw beemell beem drasked 13:56:32 <|amethyst> maybe !botonly 13:56:44 purebot 13:56:45 <|amethyst> to exclude shared accounts and hybrids 13:56:57 <|amethyst> !botzi 13:57:57 !lg beem 13:57:58 3. beem the Chopper (L1 MiBe of Trog), slain by a goblin on D:1 on 2015-11-07 08:33:36, with 4 points after 196 turns and 0:01:10. 13:57:59 <|amethyst> I'm not sure which of those are pure bots, though 13:58:16 <|amethyst> I mean, some or even most of them 13:58:26 <|amethyst> but not all 13:58:28 those aren't actually bot games, but it is an irc/webtiles bot 13:58:35 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:59:13 <|amethyst> !lg * name~~twitchplays 13:59:20 8. twitchplayscrawl the Caller (L1 GrSu), slain by a rat (summoned by the player character) on D:1 (lemuel_arrival_room) on 2014-04-10 02:57:30, with 0 points after 36 turns and 0:05:31. 13:59:34 <|amethyst> !lg * name~~twitchplays max=xl 13:59:35 8. twitchplayscrawl the Cudgeler (L3 MuCK of Cheibriados), blasted by an orc wizard (puff of flame) on D:6 on 2014-04-10 02:41:29, with 136 points after 7412 turns and 0:20:29. 13:59:43 is twitch plays crawl an actual thing 13:59:49 Please nerf MuCK 13:59:49 <|amethyst> no clue 13:59:51 yeah it was 13:59:55 several of us played it 14:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:05 (played it in twitch chat) 14:00:17 was it vote or chaos or both 14:00:19