00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:07:36 yeah it's not a case or merely migrating servers, but also going over the changes thus far, fixing any issues 00:18:42 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:19:02 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:19:26 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest51383 00:22:24 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:22:56 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:28:12 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1024-gf1736fb (34) 00:29:47 -!- SenoraRaton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:31:25 HobsGoblin (L27 VSBe) ASSERT(dests.size()) in 'mon-cast.cc' at line 7472 failed. (Dis:7) 00:32:41 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-1025-gf4f215a: Adjust autopickup defaults for jewellery changes. 10(42 seconds ago, 1 file, 10+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f4f215a631e0 00:32:54 <|amethyst> hmm 00:33:34 <|amethyst> so I guess an iron giant tried to throw the player but something was in the way 00:34:02 <|amethyst> but it found a ray 00:34:10 <|amethyst> oh 00:34:17 <|amethyst> I guess nothing habitable probably 00:34:19 <|amethyst> !crashlog 00:34:21 12914. HobsGoblin, XL27 VSBe, T:95733 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/HobsGoblin/crash-HobsGoblin-20160107-053056.txt 00:34:43 !crashlog 4tharraofdagon 00:34:44 <|amethyst> hm, or trying to throw through a monster 00:34:44 33. 4thArraOfDagon, XL27 HOWr, T:37104 (milestone): http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/4thArraOfDagon/crash-4thArraOfDagon-20160106-122452.txt 00:34:54 <|amethyst> rather, directly into another monster? 00:35:28 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 00:35:49 <|amethyst> hm, no, target is (42,17) 00:37:07 <|amethyst> oh 00:37:17 <|amethyst> it picked a target that doesn't satisfy MIN_THROW_DIST 00:37:21 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:37:26 shouldn't throwing into another monster result in gell's style damage? 00:37:51 i mean, i have no idea and that might be an enormous pain in the ass to implement 00:38:15 it doesn't throw into other monsters, just near them, but anyhow that would help the player, wouldn't it 00:38:23 it's not trying to damage its allies 00:39:03 <|amethyst> it isn't actually throwing into a monster, I was just making guesses about why the player didn't make it to the destination 00:39:06 <|amethyst> I see why now 00:39:52 yeah, I'm responding to ProzacElf; it doesn't target a monster specifically , but it does give highers scores to squares adjacent to dangerous (and hostile) monsters, to answer his question 00:40:22 gell's does the damage thing because that's a benefit to the player 00:41:19 hrm, I'd thought the ray was such that it could never randomly choose a target not MIN_THROW_DIST away 00:41:21 -!- SSG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:41:47 well not choose a tile along that ray, since it does a weighted choice from the tiles on the ray path 00:41:48 <|amethyst> gammafunk: yes, there's a bug there 00:42:02 <|amethyst> gammafunk: working on a fix, but I wanted to do a little refactor in the process 00:42:17 cool, please let the bug be PF or wheals' fault 00:42:43 <|amethyst> no, it's mine :) 00:42:59 also good 00:46:32 oh, could move const dist in _choose_throw_dest() before that if 00:47:32 <|amethyst> oh, could, but not going to because of the refactor 00:47:45 <|amethyst> so it will be uselessly recomputed unless the optimiser is really good 00:47:47 oh, i get why it doesn't do that 00:48:04 it would be kind of neat though 00:48:32 although to be fair i was at least thinking it would add that damage to both the player and the monster that was the target if that were the case 00:48:43 it would just make throwing the player next to monsters less effective though 00:49:02 I mean it's cool for "style" I guess, but the whole point is to get the player next to dangerou monsters (if those are around) 00:49:08 is there a bot with 0.17 monster info? 00:49:08 so making said monsters less dangerous isn't great 00:49:15 heh 00:49:30 like i said, i'm not arguing that it needs to be there 00:49:44 i was just saying that it would be fun 00:50:02 no no no...there will be no Fun 00:50:02 i thought chei had 0.17 info? 00:50:06 ah right 00:50:08 sorry 00:50:10 forgot the first rule 00:50:13 <|amethyst> chei hasn't updated in a long time 00:50:18 Players don't deserve fun things 00:50:20 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.17-a0-1923-gc35365e 00:50:20 <|amethyst> %??-version 00:50:28 it kind of does yes 00:50:38 %git 0.17-a0-1923-gc35365e 00:50:38 07Medar02 * 0.17-a0-1923-gc35365e: Fix WebTiles mini HP/MP bar not showing up occasionally. (#7392) 10(3 months ago, 2 files, 10+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c35365ef47e1 00:50:39 <|amethyst> because chei can't compile crawl 00:50:49 I win the lottery 00:50:49 <|amethyst> well, "long time" 00:51:15 That medar commit is just so good, we chei doesn't want to recompile 00:51:21 s/we // 00:51:27 you are chei?! 00:51:33 never! 00:51:35 -!- crate_ is now known as crate 00:52:09 it'd be cool if Gretell got a stable version of monster 00:52:18 but not sure if the kin cares to set that up 00:52:23 at least I think he runs that server? 00:52:44 ??Gretell 00:52:44 I don't have a page labeled Gretell in my learndb. 00:52:51 ??@ 00:52:51 @[1/1]: @ gives a plain English explanation of your character's status. @ (glyph) is the player character and a rather long list of human and Demigod Uniques: {Sigmund} {Edmund} {Erica} {Donald} {Eustachio} {Frances} {Frederick} {Harold} {Jessica} {Joseph} {Josephine} {Kirke} {Louise} {Margery} {Maud} {Maurice} {Nikola} {Norris} {Psyche} {Rupert} {Terence}. 00:53:52 !learn add @ Use @?? to make monster queries on Gretell 00:53:53 @[2/2]: Use @?? to make monster queries on Gretell 00:54:11 ??eksell 00:54:11 Eksell[1/1]: The cxc announcement bot, which uses | as a prefix. 00:54:17 ??sizzell 00:54:18 sizzell[1/2]: Like Gretell, except that |amethyst is typing everything himself. Announces games and upgrades on crawl.s-z.org ({CSZO}). Uses "%" for its commands ("%dump" etc), but does not do nick mapping. 00:54:46 !learn add @ The most insane people in ##crawl-dev have this next to their name. 00:54:46 @[3/3]: The most insane people in ##crawl-dev have this next to their name. 00:54:55 !learn edit eksell[1] s/cxc/CXC/ 00:54:56 Eksell[1/1]: The CXC announcement bot, which uses | as a prefix. 00:55:10 fr: Eksell is EKSELL in channel 00:55:25 !learn edit eksell[1] s/CXC/{CXC}/ 00:55:26 Eksell[1/1]: The {CXC} announcement bot, which uses | as a prefix. 00:55:26 oh what? Demigod gets a capital letter in that entry? 00:55:39 what, are they more deserving of a capital letter than mere 'h'umans? 00:55:45 =p 00:55:51 !learn edit @[1] s/Dem/dem/ 00:55:51 @[1/3]: @ gives a plain English explanation of your character's status. @ (glyph) is the player character and a rather long list of human and demigod Uniques: {Sigmund} {Edmund} {Erica} {Donald} {Eustachio} {Frances} {Frederick} {Harold} {Jessica} {Joseph} {Josephine} {Kirke} {Louise} {Margery} {Maud} {Maurice} {Nikola} {Norris} {Psyche} {Rupert} {Terence}. 00:55:55 hahaha 00:56:04 demigod UNIQUES 00:56:15 i'm keeping an eye on your pro-Frederick bias 00:56:17 !learn edit @[1] s/Uniq/uniq/ 00:56:17 @[1/3]: @ gives a plain English explanation of your character's status. @ (glyph) is the player character and a rather long list of human and demigod uniques: {Sigmund} {Edmund} {Erica} {Donald} {Eustachio} {Frances} {Frederick} {Harold} {Jessica} {Joseph} {Josephine} {Kirke} {Louise} {Margery} {Maud} {Maurice} {Nikola} {Norris} {Psyche} {Rupert} {Terence}. 00:57:38 ??monster 00:57:38 monsters[1/4]: The most up-to-date code for @?? can be found at https://github.com/crawl/monster/ : branch 'master' for trunk, 'dcss016' for 0.16, and likewise back to 'dcss09'. 00:57:41 ??monster[2 00:57:41 objstat[2/3]: Latest statistics: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7VXhHzhWWb7S282VWhLVWRXbG8&usp=sharing , See the README for details: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D5mFqVi8ghz_nzvVmDUc3unx8VanVBWfgvZ8xCHaiJo/edit?usp=sharing 00:57:45 ??monster[3 00:57:46 monsters[3/4]: dirty cheaters 00:57:50 ??monster[4 00:57:51 4.1[3/7]: what's really overpowered in 4.1 elliott: monsters 00:58:04 !learn add Gretell The {CDO} announcement bot, which uses @ as a prefix. Also responds to @?? monster info queries. 00:58:04 Gretell[1/1]: The {CDO} announcement bot, which uses @ as a prefix. Also responds to @?? monster info queries. 00:58:17 -!- roadmap has joined ##crawl-dev 00:59:22 ??xxx 00:59:23 summon horrible things[1/1]: Level 8 summoning spell, produces large abominations and tentacled monstrosities. Has a 1/5 chance to drain intelligence by 1d3 points (1d2 in 0.15). Tentacled monstrosites and abominations have separate summons caps. Affectionately known as XXX. 00:59:29 ??shadow creatures 00:59:29 shadow creatures[1/1]: L5 summoning, Book of Summonings and Dreams. When you cast it, summons one always-friendly level appropriate monster (some will come with an appropriate pack). When monsters cast it, summons up to 8. Good to use in places where normal monsters are nasty, like Zot. 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:09 !learn edit shadow_creatures s/L5/L6 summoning (L5 in 0.17-)/ 01:00:10 shadow creatures[1/1]: L6 summoning (L5 in 0.17-) summoning, Book of Summonings and Dreams. When you cast it, summons one always-friendly level appropriate monster (some will come with an appropriate pack). When monsters cast it, summons up to 8. Good to use in places where normal monsters are nasty, like Zot. 01:00:15 ??menagerie 01:00:15 monstrous menagerie[1/1]: Level 6 spell which summons either a manticore, lindwurm, harpy (multiples at higher power), or a sphinx (much rarer except at high power). 01:00:57 !learn edit monstrous_menagerie[1] s/Level 6/L7 summoning (L6 in 0.17-)/ 01:00:58 monstrous menagerie[1/1]: L7 summoning (L6 in 0.17-) spell which summons either a manticore, lindwurm, harpy (multiples at higher power), or a sphinx (much rarer except at high power). 01:02:04 !learn edit monstrous_menagerie[1] s/L7.+spell/L7 summoning spell (L6 in 0.17-)/ 01:02:05 monstrous menagerie[1/1]: L7 summoning spell (L6 in 0.17-) which summons either a manticore, lindwurm, harpy (multiples at higher power), or a sphinx (much rarer except at high power). 01:02:26 ??amulet_of_resist_corrossion 01:02:27 amulet of resist corrossion ~ amulet of resist corrosion ~ resist corrosion[1/1]: Provides a 50% save against {corrosion} from {acid}, and halves damage (which itself makes the corrosion less likely). Available as an amulet, on some randarts, or when quaffing potion of resistance. You will still get corroded, but significantly less. 01:02:44 ??ring_of_resist_corrosion 01:02:44 I don't have a page labeled ring_of_resist_corrosion in my learndb. 01:03:00 ??relec 01:03:01 relec[1/1]: Reduces electrical damage to 1/3, 1/6, 0 by level (but players can only get level 1). Available from potions of resistance, staff of air, storm dragon armour, statue form, mutations and artefacts. 01:03:27 !learn mv amulet_of_resist_corrosion ring_of_resist_corrosion 01:03:28 amulet_of_resist_corrosion -> ring of resist corrosion[1/1]: see {resist_corrosion[1]} 01:03:35 hm. can a case be made for rCorr to be 2/3 (like rPois) instead of 1/2? 01:03:43 ??resist_corrosion 01:03:45 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-1026-ge317a7f: Use the same rules in _choose_throwing_target and _choose_throw_dest. 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 11+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e317a7fe6241 01:03:49 resist corrosion[1/1]: Provides a 50% save against {corrosion} from {acid}, and halves damage (which itself makes the corrosion less likely). Available as an amulet, on some randarts, or when quaffing potion of resistance. You will still get corroded, but significantly less. 01:03:49 or was 50% carefully chosen as the right balance? 01:03:58 (easier to remember for players if they are the same) 01:04:13 !learn add amulet_of_resist_corrosion see {resist_corrosion[1]} 01:04:14 amulet of resist corrosion[1/1]: see {resist_corrosion[1]} 01:04:31 -!- Morphy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:04:58 !learn edit resist_corrosion[1] s/amulet/ring (an amulet it 0.17-)/ 01:04:59 resist corrosion[1/1]: Provides a 50% save against {corrosion} from {acid}, and halves damage (which itself makes the corrosion less likely). Available as an ring (an amulet it 0.17-), on some randarts, or when quaffing potion of resistance. You will still get corroded, but significantly less. 01:05:03 maybe it's the 'which itself makes the corrosion less likely' that makes it different enough that 50% is better. 01:05:14 !learn edit resist_corrosion[1] s/an ring/ a ring/ 01:05:14 resist corrosion[1/1]: Provides a 50% save against {corrosion} from {acid}, and halves damage (which itself makes the corrosion less likely). Available as a ring (an amulet it 0.17-), on some randarts, or when quaffing potion of resistance. You will still get corroded, but significantly less. 01:05:18 dammit 01:05:27 +1 to the change though. I'm starting to see the amulet vision better 01:05:32 !learn edit resist_corrosion[1] s/ a/ a/ 01:05:32 resist corrosion[1/1]: Provides a 50% save against {corrosion} from {acid}, and halves damage (which itself makes the corrosion less likely). Available as a ring (an amulet it 0.17-), on some randarts, or when quaffing potion of resistance. You will still get corroded, but significantly less. 01:05:42 <|amethyst> !learn edit resist_corrosion[1] s/it 0/in 0/ 01:05:42 resist corrosion[1/1]: Provides a 50% save against {corrosion} from {acid}, and halves damage (which itself makes the corrosion less likely). Available as a ring (an amulet in 0.17-), on some randarts, or when quaffing potion of resistance. You will still get corroded, but significantly less. 01:05:42 amulet = strategy. ring = tactical 01:06:05 that typo was johnstein's fault for interrupting my flow 01:06:18 my typing chi got disturbed 01:06:19 sorry. was so happy the kids are finally in bed 01:06:23 BLAH BLAH BLAH 01:06:33 -!- LordSloth has left ##crawl-dev 01:06:39 !send gammafunk some flow 01:06:41 Sending some flow to gammafunk. 01:06:59 !phial johnstein 01:07:00 fr 01:07:25 ??ring_of_invisibility 01:07:25 ring of invisibility[1/2]: Evoking this (or any other Evoke Invisibility) is one of the biggest single-turn sources of magic contamination available, although not enough to be a threat by itself. 01:07:37 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:07:55 !learn edit ring_of_invisibility s/$/ Removed in 0.18./ 01:07:55 fr: title: Phialnthropist 01:07:55 Use: !learn edit ring_of_invisibility[NUM] s/// 01:08:02 !learn edit ring_of_invisibility[1] s/$/ Removed in 0.18./ 01:08:02 ring of invisibility[1/2]: Evoking this (or any other Evoke Invisibility) is one of the biggest single-turn sources of magic contamination available, although not enough to be a threat by itself. Removed in 0.18. 01:08:09 curse you 01:08:17 !learn edit ring_of_invisibility[1] s/ // 01:08:18 ring of invisibility[1/2]: Evoking this (or any other Evoke Invisibility) is one of the biggest single-turn sources of magic contamination available, although not enough to be a threat by itself.Removed in 0.18. 01:08:21 oh 01:08:23 curse you 01:08:39 !learn edit ring_of_invisibility[1] s/.R/. R/ 01:08:40 ring of invisibility[1/2]: Evoking this (. R any other Evoke Invisibility) is one of the biggest single-turn sources of magic contamination available, although not enough to be a threat by itself.Removed in 0.18. 01:09:04 !learn edit relec[1] s/ R/R/ 01:09:05 relec[1/1]: Reduces electrical damage to 1/3, 1/6, 0 by level (but players can only get level 1). Available from potions of resistance, staff of air, storm dragon armour, statue form, mutations and artefacts. 01:09:16 !learn edit ring_of_invisibility[1] s/Removed/ Removed/ 01:09:17 ring of invisibility[1/2]: Evoking this (. R any other Evoke Invisibility) is one of the biggest single-turn sources of magic contamination available, although not enough to be a threat by itself. Removed in 0.18. 01:09:29 oh 01:09:30 haha 01:09:52 nice 01:10:21 !learn edit ring_of_invisibility[1] s|\(\. R|(or| 01:10:22 ring of invisibility[1/2]: Evoking this (or any other Evoke Invisibility) is one of the biggest single-turn sources of magic contamination available, although not enough to be a threat by itself. Removed in 0.18. 01:10:37 it's case insensitive 01:11:10 ??amulet_of_mana 01:11:11 I don't have a page labeled amulet_of_mana in my learndb. 01:11:15 %git :/mana 01:11:15 07Lasty02 * 0.18-a0-1021-gde3230b: Fix misleading text about the mana regen amulet (wheals) 10(7 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/de3230b19cd2 01:11:25 !gitgrep 2 mana 01:11:25 %git HEAD^{/mana}^^{/mana} 01:11:26 07Lasty02 * 0.18-a0-1020-g47c2ea2: Replace the amulet of resist corrosion with the amulet of mana regeneration 10(7 hours ago, 16 files, 75+ 26-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/47c2ea230e64 01:11:51 !send sensitivityTraining gammafunk 01:11:52 Sending gammafunk to sensitivityTraining. 01:12:03 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1025-gf4f215a (34) 01:12:07 I flunked out of that 01:12:11 fr: a better name than mana regeneration 01:13:01 spirit charger 2.0 01:13:43 oh, actually, I can replicate the 'crash due to full command buffer(?)' by holding o now 01:13:48 it seems pretty latency sensitive 01:14:32 gammafunk just gives random answers on the corporate mandated sexual harrassment modules until he passes 01:14:49 chequers: do you get an actual crash, or does it just hang forever? 01:15:29 !learn add amulet_of_mana_regeneration An amulet that increases your mana regen rate by the same amount as adding 40 to max mp would, with a warmup period after you wear it. Added in 0.18. 01:15:30 amulet of mana regeneration[1/1]: An amulet that increases your mana regen rate by the same amount as adding 40 to max mp would, with a warmup period after you wear it. Added in 0.18. 01:15:36 ??amulet_of_harm 01:15:36 amulet of harm[1/1]: Increases damage done by and to the wearer by 25%. Applied after AC. It applies to damage from melee, ranged, spells, abilities, evocations, clouds, falling down stairs, etc. 01:15:55 Medar: the client hangs for a long time 01:15:56 was the change to clarity meant to inhibit xomzerk? 01:16:08 then the error in console is timeout: timed out 01:16:27 because xom is frankly one of the more likely sources of the clarity mutation 01:16:34 chequers: in what console? 01:16:48 chequers: also do you know if other games hang too or are unaffected? 01:17:12 the webserver console, sorry 01:17:13 ProzacElf: I believe that change was reverted already 01:17:17 or for that matter why make clarity now block voluntary berserking when the4 amulet has been removed? 01:17:19 oh 01:17:23 %git :/[Cc]larity 01:17:23 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-1024-gf1736fb: Revert "Clarity blocks intentional zerk" 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f1736fbdacfa 01:17:26 I suspect everything hangs, since webtiles-changes uses a single event loop 01:17:35 didn't test though 01:17:46 yeah, think so too 01:18:23 Medar: fyi http://dpaste.com/2YJYP1C 01:19:33 i get some weird behaviour if I hold the key for not quite long enough to cause the hang. I can let go of the key and then start putting in other key commands, and those new commands seem to arrive out of order, before some of the first key presses are fully processed 01:19:43 either that or the message log messages arrive out of order 01:20:18 hard to replicate this though, maybe random error 01:20:21 that's pretty weird 01:20:59 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 01:21:25 i wonder if mana regen or regeneration is better health for vine stalkers 01:22:40 !tell pleasingfungus I feel some messages are being folded together that shouldn't be now: _l - a scratched copper ring; The bat hits you but does no damage. 01:22:40 chequers: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 01:25:18 -!- vev has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:26:43 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:29:21 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:31:42 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:32:00 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:32:42 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:34:21 -!- meatpath has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:35:23 -!- maldini has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:36:50 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 01:40:06 Amulet of Flux 01:43:08 -!- Graydot- has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:45:52 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 01:45:53 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:46:09 Amulet of Arcane Rejuvenation 01:46:15 that's a mouthful 01:47:14 Amulet of the Caster 01:47:30 Amulet of the Wizard (of Yendor) 01:52:03 -!- Graydot has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:52:17 -!- tksquared has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:52:27 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:52:50 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:53:10 -!- Rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 01:53:21 -!- Harudoku has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:53:41 -!- Rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:54:36 -!- tupper has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:55:28 -!- zwisch has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:55:31 -!- fazisi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:55:54 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:55:54 -!- Naruni has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:58:14 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:12:08 Amulet of the Thaumaturge 02:25:05 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:26:05 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:28:09 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:29:33 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 02:36:02 Thamulet 02:40:11 -!- maldini has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:40:23 -!- Mekanik has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâ€¦] 02:47:09 -!- Crawl_Bacchus has quit [Quit: Look what I got, Bart, a Tickle-Me Krusty doll!] 02:48:40 -!- GauHelldragon2 is now known as GauHelldragon 02:53:13 -!- beogh has joined ##crawl-dev 02:53:37 anyone have a reason why mercenary shops didn't survive ? 02:54:15 seems like a brilliant idea that would be relatively easy to implement 02:56:08 New branch created: pull/209 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/209 02:56:08 03edsrzf02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/209 * 0.18-a0-1022-g2a4ab4c: Show monster health in webtiles with tile_display_mode = glyphs 10(12 minutes ago, 2 files, 49+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2a4ab4c50384 03:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02:14 beogh, I always liked the 'Thieves Den' portal idea that was basically a bazaar with monsters and one of the shops was a mercenary shop. So you had to make a decision right there on whether to use it 03:02:46 beogh, but I think oubliette is kinda themed like that, just without the bazaar and instead of the merc shop, you get a temporary buddy unique. so not really 03:02:50 -!- Adeon has quit [Quit: bye] 03:03:15 -!- Adeon has joined ##crawl-dev 03:17:14 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:18:13 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:22:14 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-1026-ge317a7f (34) 03:30:17 -!- mong has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:37:37 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:38:50 -!- beogh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:40:17 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:51:40 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:53:00 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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Use !messages to read them. 09:11:53 4 matches: view [toggle: !], by dist [/], show useless [=] 09:11:54 a - [D:4] Buwim's Book Shop 09:11:54 b - [D:4] Goizoc's Gadget Shop 09:11:54 c - [D:4] Kaureczaqa's Antique Armour Shop 09:11:56 d - [D:4] Xuluv's Jewellery Emporium {D:4} {shop} 09:12:03 why is Xuluv's special? 09:12:05 !messages 09:12:06 (1/3) PleasingFungus said (1d 10h 11m 56s ago): not upset at all, just out to dinner :) 09:12:08 !messages 09:12:09 (1/2) PleasingFungus said (1d 10h 11m 46s ago): I appreciated the 'fungent stench' comment :P 09:12:12 !messages 09:12:12 (1/1) PleasingFungus said (1d 10h 11m 45s ago): I appreciated the 'fungent stench' comment :P 09:13:04 <|amethyst> dpeg: it doesn't have "shop" in the name 09:13:14 <|amethyst> dpeg: so it's showing you part of the prefixes that match 09:13:28 !tell dpeg I appreciated the 'fungent stench' comment :P 09:13:28 wheals: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 09:13:35 -!- roxton has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:21:15 !tell gammafunk I'm really excited for your upcoming better name for the amulet of mana regeneration! I struggled with that for a while, but almost everything else is already stepped on by staves and rings or else too obscure. 09:21:16 Lasty_: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 09:21:45 -!- roxton has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:23:52 amulet of charging 09:27:50 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:28:00 |amethyst: ah, thx 09:28:00 dpeg: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 09:28:17 btw, the new shop interface (console) does not allow travel anymore! 09:28:31 I can view the stock, but Enter won't move me there 09:30:10 <|amethyst> hm, for me the default is travel and I have to press ! to view stock 09:31:22 <|amethyst> oh, I see 09:31:31 <|amethyst> you mean once you are viewing the shop's stock 09:31:49 <|amethyst> press esc to go back to the list of matches (the shop itself) then you can travel 09:32:22 <|amethyst> (I guess esc then ! since you must have been in view mode before) 09:32:27 -!- DDFi has quit [Client Quit] 09:32:49 |amethyst: and thanks again. Is this a regression? (I don't know, just have a hunch I could move one screen earlier in the past.) 09:33:19 -!- kazimuth has quit [Client Quit] 09:34:31 <|amethyst> ah, yes, you used to be able to press enter while looking at the shop contents to travel there 09:34:50 <|amethyst> when it wasn't a real shop menu 09:35:19 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:35:55 so this is progress? :) 09:36:49 Hey, another one: the Merchant ability description doesn't mention that depth plays a role! I'd add a line, but you'll have to tell me whether it's alright: 09:36:52 Sends funds to a merchant to help them set up shop at your location. The cost 09:36:55 of funding a shop increases with the number of shops funded. You will always 09:36:57 have the option to fund a shop selling food. 09:37:13 dpeg: yes, it improves the interface consistency 09:37:23 wheals: I know, just whining 09:37:41 <|amethyst> wheals: I think it wouldn't be unreasonable for to travel to the shop rather than doing nothing 09:37:55 progregression 09:37:57 + Merchants called at greater depth tend to carry better wares. ?? 09:38:00 <|amethyst> wheals: since both of those are inconsistent with what happens when you're standing in the shop 09:38:16 |amethyst: it's far from urgent... I'd be happy to get the feature back :) 09:38:33 -!- Rjs has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:38:49 -!- Dirtsage has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:38:52 <|amethyst> dpeg: that makes it sound like the controlling factor is where you are when you use it 09:39:06 |amethyst: so it is max depth reached? 09:39:16 <|amethyst> it is the location of the shop 09:39:33 shop always spawn at your feet now right? 09:39:34 + Merchants settling at greater depth tend to carry better wares. ?? 09:39:37 <|amethyst> oh 09:39:39 Medar: yes, think so 09:39:39 <|amethyst> that's right 09:39:55 i'm worried that if you accidentally press enter twice at the describe screen people will start travelling unintentionally, but it could be worth trying 09:39:55 <|amethyst> so I guess that works 09:40:04 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:40:08 I think it'd be better to just use "max depth reached" rather than "depth of shop level" 09:40:31 but that is a mechanics change, will do the description now 09:40:57 <|amethyst> dpeg: wouldn't that mean you'd be better off leaving Orc:$ until after Depths:$ ? 09:41:25 only for gozag shops I guess? 09:41:37 that sounds like a bad idea in general 09:41:38 <|amethyst> I guess my concern is that this makes it sound like a special rule for Gozag 09:41:40 <|amethyst> when it's not 09:41:54 <|amethyst> it's just that items generated deeper in the dungeon tend to be better 09:43:02 |amethyst: ah, I see! 09:43:09 I thought this was a special rule for Gozag. 09:43:50 I like the gameplay implication of this (explore before shops) but I think Gozag shops should use "virtual" depth. But I'll write a c-r-d mail about that. 09:44:31 <|amethyst> "As with all merchants, those deeper in the dungeon tend to carry better wares." 09:45:13 Your branch is behind 'origin/master' by 1069 commits, and can be fast-forwarded. 09:45:19 |amethyst: yes, will do 09:45:51 <|amethyst> "can be fast-forwarded" means just do a "git pull" and you'll be up to date 09:45:55 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:46:25 I've done this, there are just so many :) 09:46:33 <|amethyst> %git HEAD^1069 09:46:33 Could not find commit HEAD^1069 (git returned 128) 09:46:40 <|amethyst> %git HEAD~1069 09:46:40 07Lasty02 * 0.17-a0-1792-g3f9e932: Blocking trove wand tolls for characters with Sac Artifice 10(4 months ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3f9e932fb974 09:50:09 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:56:14 -!- read is now known as mineral 09:58:21 -!- kazimuth has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 09:59:05 Is there a reason to keep dat/descript/ability.txt.orig around? 09:59:37 -!- Dirtsage has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:02:00 -!- Alcopop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:02:12 -!- Tpain is now known as zhaorenw 10:02:45 03dpeg02 07* 0.18-a0-1027-g814d7dd: Mention shop depth in Call Merchant description. 10(45 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/814d7dd22dc8 10:06:14 -!- Alcopop has quit [Client Quit] 10:07:40 -!- Alcopop has quit [Client Quit] 10:07:55 crash during a fight 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10228 by zeiran 10:08:22 <|amethyst> dpeg: probably not, but I suppose that depends on what's in it 10:09:05 <|amethyst> dpeg: I mean, if that contains your only copy of the proof of P=NP, by all means keep it :) 10:09:31 <|amethyst> most likely it's just the version of that file from before applying your patch 10:13:02 no no, it seems to be tracked... git-status does not list it as one of those files I could git-add. 10:13:34 .gitignore? 10:13:47 .orig often indicates leftovers from "patch" 10:14:34 hm, no global one I guess 10:14:45 er, not in the repo 10:14:53 I just wanted to know whether I can safely erase it. 10:16:06 it's not in my local checkout 10:16:16 * geekosaur just pulled 10:16:54 you could always diff against the current ability.txt to see what it's about, but I'd say just nuke it probably 10:17:10 <|amethyst> yeah, .orig files are in .gitignore 10:17:23 <|amethyst> so it shouldn't be in the repo unless you manually added it 10:18:00 <|amethyst> just like .o files from compiling 10:20:10 Dirtsage (L22 DsGl) ASSERT(dests.size()) in 'mon-cast.cc' at line 7472 failed. (Depths:4) 10:20:30 <|amethyst> !lm * crash x=vlong 10:20:31 12915. [2016-01-07 15:19:53] [vlong=0.18-a0-1024-gf1736fb] Dirtsage the Brawler (L22 DsGl of Ru) ASSERT(dests.size()) in 'mon-cast.cc' at line 7472 failed on turn 39455. (Depths:4) 10:21:01 <|amethyst> %git :/same rules 10:21:01 07|amethyst02 * 0.18-a0-1026-ge317a7f: Use the same rules in _choose_throwing_target and _choose_throw_dest. 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 11+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e317a7fe6241 10:21:25 <|amethyst> rebuilding CXC 10:25:34 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-1027-g814d7dd (34) 10:26:15 -!- zhaorenw has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:26:46 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:31:34 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:36:22 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:29 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:45:45 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:51:28 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:51:39 -!- Harudoku_ is now known as Harudoku 10:53:54 Regex Usage 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10229 by TranceProgHouse 10:55:46 people use sound! 10:55:52 or at least, person 10:56:12 not surprising with that nick 11:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:08:12 <|amethyst> yeah, it's clear e appreciates sound more than music 11:11:14 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:11:20 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:14:55 -!- Rast- has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:15:01 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:15:15 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:15:18 -!- yernab has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:16:14 -!- crate has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 11:17:04 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 11:35:33 -!- Rast has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:15 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:38:19 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 11:38:50 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:43:38 -!- Rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 11:45:38 -!- yernab has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:46:30 -!- Rast has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:50:48 -!- ystael has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:53:36 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:35 -!- simples has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:01:31 -!- Morphy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:01:47 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:08 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:07:06 -!- jacobian_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:13:32 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:15:30 -!- archaeo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:29:01 -!- Mekanik has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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In 0.18, resist mutation is gone and warding is replaced with dismissal. 13:48:55 -!- WebFungus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:50:33 !learn edit amulets s/0.18.+/0.18, new amulets: harm, reflection, dismissal, and mana regeneration, removed amulets: resist mutation, warding, and resist corrosion (replaced with ring of resist corrosion)./ 13:50:34 amulets[1/1]: The list of amulets in Crawl are: clarity, faith, gourmand, guardian spirit, inaccuracy, rage, regeneration, resist corrosion, resist mutation, stasis, and warding. In 0.18, new amulets: harm, reflection, dismissal, and mana regeneration, removed amulets: resist mutation, warding, and resist corrosion (replaced with ring of resist corrosion). 13:51:01 !learn edit amulets s/, removed/; removed/ 13:51:01 amulets[1/1]: The list of amulets in Crawl are: clarity, faith, gourmand, guardian spirit, inaccuracy, rage, regeneration, resist corrosion, resist mutation, stasis, and warding. In 0.18, new amulets: harm, reflection, dismissal, and mana regeneration; removed amulets: resist mutation, warding, and resist corrosion (replaced with ring of resist corrosion). 13:51:21 oh 13:51:33 Thanks 13:51:56 !learn edit amulets s/, warding/, warding, clarity, stasis/ 13:51:56 amulets[1/1]: The list of amulets in Crawl are: clarity, faith, gourmand, guardian spirit, inaccuracy, rage, regeneration, resist corrosion, resist mutation, stasis, and warding. In 0.18, new amulets: harm, reflection, dismissal, and mana regeneration; removed amulets: resist mutation, warding, clarity, stasis, and resist corrosion (replaced with ring of resist corrosion). 13:52:04 even better 13:52:05 did that cover it all 13:52:06 ? 13:52:11 yep 13:53:07 And finally Phase One of amulet overhaul is complete. 13:53:39 Phase Two is just making sure the new amulets are fun and reasonably balancedish 13:54:47 ??amulet of invisibility 13:54:48 I don't have a page labeled amulet_of_invisibility in my learndb. 13:54:56 ??ring of invisibility 13:54:56 ring of invisibility[1/2]: Evoking this (or any other Evoke Invisibility) is one of the biggest single-turn sources of magic contamination available, although not enough to be a threat by itself. Removed in 0.18. 13:55:06 ??ring of resist corrosion 13:55:07 resist corrosion[1/1]: Provides a 50% save against {corrosion} from {acid}, and halves damage (which itself makes the corrosion less likely). Available as a ring (an amulet in 0.17-), on some randarts, or when quaffing potion of resistance. You will still get corroded, but significantly less. 13:57:16 Now I have to move on to ruining something else 13:57:22 -!- zhaorenw has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:59:56 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:41 In the new-Alistair's plan (gives vertigo instead of confusion/int drain, same power level against monsters), does it make sense to nerf it to L5? L4 feels too low, but L5 feels a bit too high... 14:02:53 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 14:04:06 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:35 -!- inire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:05:43 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 14:08:54 -!- doubleD_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:09:36 to what degree would someone have to be proficient in python to help with webtiles? 14:12:18 -!- NotMyLeg has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:12:59 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâ€¦] 14:20:14 Webtiles is a bit more abount understanding how the different pieces of tech work with each other: tornado server sending json between the crawl binary and the javascript client 14:20:52 To make minor cleanups and refactorings you don't need to know too much, but I'm not sure you want to use it as a project to learn python itself 14:21:26 -!- Rjs- is now known as Rjs 14:22:07 You can use anything as a project to learn a language, of course, and the webtiles python isn't particularly complicated, but unerstanding how the networking parts work isn't really about python 14:22:17 *understanding 14:26:07 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:27:53 -!- maldini has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:28:04 -!- alvarops has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:28:58 -!- n1k has joined ##crawl-dev 14:29:23 -!- n1k is now known as Guest63961 14:37:15 -!- neunon_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:38:30 -!- kazimuth has quit [*.net *.split] 14:38:30 -!- omnirizon has quit [*.net *.split] 14:38:30 -!- jefus_ has quit [*.net *.split] 14:38:30 -!- TZer0 has quit [*.net *.split] 14:38:30 -!- jolamb has quit [*.net *.split] 14:38:30 -!- Kalma has quit [*.net *.split] 14:38:30 -!- neunon has quit [*.net *.split] 14:38:30 -!- Arivia has quit [*.net *.split] 14:38:30 -!- n1 has quit [*.net *.split] 14:38:30 -!- pythonsnake has quit [*.net *.split] 14:38:30 -!- wmbt has quit [*.net *.split] 14:38:44 -!- neunon_ is now known as neunon 14:39:01 -!- jolamb_ is now known as jolamb 14:39:54 -!- jefus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:40:42 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 14:43:06 -!- kunwon1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:43:13 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:43:28 -!- TZer0 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:48:58 -!- maldini_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:53:02 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:54:34 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 14:54:44 -!- maldini has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:55:04 !lm * verb=sacrifice s=noun 14:55:08 36983 milestones for * (verb=sacrifice): 4520x essence, 4123x love, 4120x purity, 4091x arcana, 3821x stealth, 2631x health, 2108x words, 1768x drink, 1704x evocations, 1358x dodging, 1337x hand, 1265x skill, 1209x armour, 1171x experience, 827x courage, 465x eye, 441x resistance, 20x sanity, 3x handhands, handclaws 14:55:25 !lm * verb=sacrifice / s=noun 14:55:26 36983 milestones for * (verb=sacrifice): 4520x essence, 4123x love, 4120x purity, 4091x arcana, 3821x stealth, 2631x health, 2108x words, 1768x drink, 1704x evocations, 1358x dodging, 1337x hand, 1265x skill, 1209x armour, 1171x experience, 827x courage, 465x eye, 441x resistance, 20x sanity, 3x handhands, handclaws 14:55:35 is it possible to get monsters' known positions out of los (fungi and plants specifically if they have special methods of dealing with them) in CLUA? (only in the usual -8,8 square, not necessarily globally.) 14:55:58 !lm * verb=sacrifice s=noun o=% 14:55:59 36983 milestones for * (verb=sacrifice): handclaws, 3x handhands, 20x sanity, 441x resistance, 465x eye, 827x courage, 1171x experience, 1209x armour, 1265x skill, 1337x hand, 1358x dodging, 1704x evocations, 1768x drink, 2108x words, 2631x health, 3821x stealth, 4091x arcana, 4120x purity, 4123x love, 4520x essence 14:56:09 -!- maldini_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:56:55 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:59:02 New branch created: pull/210 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/210 14:59:02 03edsrzf02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/210 * 0.18-a0-1022-g992d163: Fix targeting in webtiles with tile_display_mode = glyphs|hybrid (#8286) 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 23+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/992d163c5684 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:04:05 -!- fazisi_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:07:11 -!- LordSloth has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:17:23 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:19:22 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 15:31:17 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:42:40 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:45:59 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:49:34 -!- mistersteele has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 15:51:39 -!- Azareth has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:53:17 %git ca15f1fa1853f8f136f6f4b2615c6aad2d1918ee 15:53:17 07MarvinPA02 * 0.17-a0-1053-gca15f1f: Don't let jellies eat items that the player has seen 10(8 months ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ca15f1fa1853 15:55:45 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:55:55 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:57:17 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:57:41 Lasty_: i see crawl players are not big fans of love 15:57:52 wheals: but are you surprised? 15:58:02 als you may have been looking for 15:58:07 <|amethyst> clearly it should be worth less piety 15:58:08 love, huh, good god y'all 15:58:11 !lm * verb=sacrifice s=noun% 15:58:12 36992 milestones for * (verb=sacrifice): 4521x essence (12.22%), 4123x love (11.15%), 4123x purity (11.15%), 4091x arcana (11.06%), 3822x stealth (10.33%), 2631x health (7.11%), 2108x words (5.70%), 1768x drink (4.78%), 1705x evocations (4.61%), 1358x dodging (3.67%), 1338x hand (3.62%), 1265x skill (3.42%), 1210x armour (3.27%), 1171x experience (3.17%), 828x courage (2.24%), 465x eye (1.26%), 44... 15:58:21 yeah, that's what I was looking for, thanks 15:58:28 !lm * verb=sacrifice s=noun% -graph 15:58:29 36992 milestones for * (verb=sacrifice): https://shalott.org/graphs/42595059f3f52a2b7b3586da3766c8c6be5abf88.html 15:58:51 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:58:53 !lm * verb=sacrifice s=noun% start>2015-08-01 15:58:54 <|amethyst> adjust sacrifice rewards until the numbers are equal 15:58:58 !lm devteamnp verb=sacrifice s=noun% 15:58:59 12624 milestones for * (verb=sacrifice start>2015-08-01): 1407x love (11.15%), 1376x essence (10.90%), 1357x arcana (10.75%), 1275x purity (10.10%), 1238x stealth (9.81%), 868x health (6.88%), 674x words (5.34%), 591x evocations (4.68%), 565x skill (4.48%), 554x drink (4.39%), 511x experience (4.05%), 430x hand (3.41%), 421x dodging (3.33%), 378x eye (2.99%), 360x armour (2.85%), 353x resistance (... 15:59:15 482 milestones for devteamnp (verb=sacrifice): 84x purity (17.43%), 49x love (10.17%), 47x stealth (9.75%), 46x arcana (9.54%), 37x essence (7.68%), 35x evocations (7.26%), 25x hand (5.19%), 25x words (5.19%), 22x courage (4.56%), 21x armour (4.36%), 18x experience (3.73%), 17x skill (3.53%), 15x drink (3.11%), 12x dodging (2.49%), 12x health (2.49%), 9x resistance (1.87%), 8x eye (1.66%) 15:59:32 are they all equally likely to be given though? 15:59:37 |amethyst: we should code it as a neural network linked up to Sequell 16:00:00 wheals: not as such; after you get ~90 piety, you won't see sacrifice artifice/hand/resistance any more 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:02 <|amethyst> use a support vector machine, hippy scum 16:00:47 maybe that's why so few people sacrificed hand? 16:01:02 quite possibly 16:01:22 There are people who only take minor sacrifices -- dozens of them -- but they don't realize they're taking Sacrifice Early Game 16:01:30 and resistance because it was added later i guess 16:02:41 <|amethyst> !lm . verb=sacrifice s=noun% 16:02:41 74 milestones for |amethyst (verb=sacrifice): 8x evocations (10.81%), 7x courage (9.46%), 6x armour (8.11%), 6x hand (8.11%), 6x skill (8.11%), 6x arcana (8.11%), 6x purity (8.11%), 5x stealth (6.76%), 5x experience (6.76%), 4x love (5.41%), 4x drink (5.41%), 3x dodging (4.05%), 3x essence (4.05%), 3x health (4.05%), resistance (1.35%), words (1.35%) 16:03:15 <|amethyst> my strategy is "what will get me to ****** the most quickly" 16:03:42 There's no logfile entry for "has the orb", is there? 16:06:15 |amethyst: I'm convinced that that is the best approach and also that it is thematic that that is the best approach 16:06:20 <|amethyst> it doesn't appear so; you'd have to go by milestones 16:07:17 <|amethyst> !lm * orb / won 16:08:36 37592/38922 milestones for * (orb): N=37592/38922 (96.58%) 16:09:09 I'll have to review, but I think Skill and Experience should maybe be worth more piety 16:09:14 I very rarely want to take them 16:12:55 !learn add ru There are people who only take minor sacrifices -- dozens of them -- but they don't realize they're taking Sacrifice Early Game 16:12:56 ru[8/8]: There are people who only take minor sacrifices -- dozens of them -- but they don't realize they're taking Sacrifice Early Game 16:14:02 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:14:07 It looks like the least popular sacrifice in recent months is Courage 16:14:17 apparently people aren't bold enough to risk it. <.< >.> 16:15:09 !lm . s=sacrifice / won 16:15:13 18/53 milestones for amalloy: 4/9x essence [44.44%], 3/8x purity [37.50%], 2/3x hand [66.67%], 2/7x arcana [28.57%], 2/4x experience [50.00%], 1/3x skill [33.33%], 1/1x stealth [100.00%], 1/4x armour [25.00%], 1/6x love [16.67%], 1/4x health [25.00%], 0/2x drink [0.00%], 0/1x words [0.00%], 0/1x eye [0.00%] 16:15:17 We already sacrificed fun when we worshiped Ru, why not sacrifice the early game. 16:15:21 r e k t 16:15:41 ??sacrifice courage 16:15:42 sacrifice courage[1/3]: Ru ability: Spellpower and slaying penalties for having more than one tough monster in view (or any nasty monster). Scaled by number of such monsters in view 16:15:53 gammadunk of the week 16:15:55 !lm . s=sacrifice / won o=% 16:15:56 I'd sacrifice hand on a tm/uc char, but not on a weapon using char 16:15:58 18/53 milestones for amalloy: 1/1x stealth [100.00%], 2/3x hand [66.67%], 2/4x experience [50.00%], 4/9x essence [44.44%], 3/8x purity [37.50%], 1/3x skill [33.33%], 2/7x arcana [28.57%], 1/4x armour [25.00%], 1/4x health [25.00%], 1/6x love [16.67%], 0/1x words [0.00%], 0/2x drink [0.00%], 0/1x eye [0.00%] 16:16:02 since 1h weapons and not much fun 16:16:04 *are 16:16:10 %git :/mana 16:16:10 07Lasty02 * 0.18-a0-1021-gde3230b: Fix misleading text about the mana regen amulet (wheals) 10(22 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/de3230b19cd2 16:16:25 I'm not sure what other high piety sacs are actually fun 16:16:26