00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:03:04 Lasty: 646h idle and still counting, are you ever going to get around to ascending that DgAs?! 00:03:19 sorry, 676h 00:08:56 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-998-gcb3fcb1 (34) 00:19:19 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:22:35 gammafunk: obviously the solution is an All-Stone Elf:3 00:22:40 or something 00:22:51 you want the elves to be stoned? 00:23:05 xXx420HighestOfElvesxXx 00:23:45 I thought that was a given... 00:28:07 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:31:47 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:35:20 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has joined ##crawl-dev 00:37:24 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:39:46 honestly yeah I managed to killhole elf:$ two times in a row 00:39:51 with elementalists running around 00:40:21 clearly the solution is to make all the walls into earth elementals 00:42:07 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 00:43:07 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:43:20 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 00:47:45 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 00:50:22 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:57:32 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:58:47 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:46 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 43.0.2/20151221130713]] 01:03:11 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 01:05:07 -!- Tpain has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:05:58 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-998-gcb3fcb1 (34) 01:07:06 -!- Tpain is now known as zhaorenw 01:09:19 -!- FireSight has quit [] 01:13:17 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:19:17 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:25:36 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:26:24 -!- meatpath has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:36:52 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:38:27 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:43:58 -!- Graydot- is now known as Graydot-ZzZ 01:55:55 -!- maldini has quit [Quit: maldini] 01:57:56 -!- maldini has quit [Client Quit] 01:59:09 -!- Zannick has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:59:24 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:01:01 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 02:06:43 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:11:26 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:18:11 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:22:33 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:30:40 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:32:10 -!- Mekanik has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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USA, http://crawl.akrasiac.org/ or crawl.akrasiac.org ssh port 22 ssh-username:joshua ssh-password: joshua. Runs the latest stable release, trunk, and robotfindskitten. Further information on the website and ??putty entries for Windows users. Also see http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/howto 04:42:20 ??cao[2 04:42:20 cao[2/2]: Webtiles is at http://crawl.akrasiac.org:8080/. 04:42:47 typically, if you've lost your password, you will need to contact the server admin and give them your email address 04:43:06 hm. who is the admin for cao now? still r a x? 04:43:18 thx johnstein, not sure I gave an email address at this time (back to 2012 I think) :o) 04:43:23 hm 04:43:37 uhh, I just found an error on this page: http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/howto 04:43:50 it says crawl.underhound.eu 04:43:54 but it is just underhound.eu 04:44:06 I don't use the crawl-subdomain. 04:44:14 BLASPHEMY 04:44:21 lol 04:44:51 still rax apparently 04:46:16 if you didn't lie about your e-mail while signing up, this shouldn't be a problem ;) 04:47:04 well, 2010 in fact /o/ 04:47:23 and I asked on the ##crawl chan to rax directly (I hope it's him) 04:47:26 (or her) 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:08:14 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:12:15 -!- maldini has quit [Quit: maldini] 05:12:16 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:22:08 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 05:22:14 -!- glaas has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:24:10 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Client Quit] 05:35:58 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:38:05 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:39:57 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:45:19 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 05:51:21 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 05:58:26 -!- beogh has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:01:18 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:11:15 -!- Reverie has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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[2015-10-30 03:55:21] Glitz the Firebug (L1 ImFE) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 14:08:57 nice, Im 14:09:01 to get the infinite items 14:09:13 well, you have to have infinite gold to actually get infinite items 14:09:19 pan would help out there 14:09:33 shame 14:10:02 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:13:59 !learn add lasty[1 Evaluate and reduce confusion lengths 14:13:59 Lasty[1/7]: Evaluate and reduce confusion lengths 14:14:33 -!- Mordru has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:15:25 which ones are problematic? 14:16:24 @??tarantula 14:16:24 unknown monster: "tarantula" 14:16:29 god, that spelling 14:16:31 ??taranula 14:16:31 I don't have a page labeled taranula in my learndb. 14:16:40 <|amethyst> @??tarantella 14:16:40 tarantella (13s) | Spd: 15 | HD: 8 | HP: 24-33 | AC/EV: 3/14 | Dam: 1913(confuse) | web sense | Res: 06magic(20) | Vul: 09poison | XP: 215 | Sz: small | Int: animal. 14:16:40 not even sequell can save you 14:16:49 <|amethyst> it's spelled like the dance, not the spider 14:17:58 <|amethyst> (well, there are languages where they are spelled the same, since they are very closely related) 14:19:28 gammafunk: Xomfusion and tarantellas in particular 14:19:36 Lasty_: the latter is my big concern, yeah 14:20:03 there are two problem cases I see: 1) infinite chain confuse, and 2) more or less irresistable, long-duration confusion. 14:20:08 This is a monster where if you effectively nerf the confusion, the monster itself is basically not a good monster 14:20:21 Basically whenever potion of curing is mandatory 14:20:25 but I'm not sure where the happy medium is there 14:20:50 -!- jefus_ is now known as jefus 14:21:03 gammafunk: I don't think it's a bad monster if it were a bit tougher, couldn't perma-confuse you, but could could confuse you for a few turns at a time 14:21:39 yeah it needs some other change together with any nerf, I think 14:21:47 -!- Reverie has joined ##crawl-dev 14:21:54 and simply making it have a stronger attack might do this 14:21:59 @??wolf_spider 14:21:59 wolf spider (00s) | Spd: 15 | HD: 11 | HP: 45-65 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 25, 1508(poison:22-44) | web sense | Res: 06magic(20) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 567 | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 14:22:11 @??jumping_spider 14:22:11 jumping spider (12s) | Spd: 15 | HD: 8 | HP: 26-39 | AC/EV: 6/12 | Dam: 2000(ensnare), 8 | web sense | Res: 06magic(20) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 301 | Sp: blink close [11!AM, 06!sil], blink away [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 14:22:25 @??demonic_crawler 14:22:25 demonic crawler (09s) | Spd: 13 | HD: 9 | HP: 50-68 | AC/EV: 10/6 | Dam: 13, 13, 13 | 05demonic, unholy, see invisible | Res: 06magic(100), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 351 | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 14:22:30 2-5 turn confusion can be interesting; if it's longer than that range(ish) it can easily be fatal-if-not-instantly-cured 14:23:18 tarantellas were already pretty terrible if you had low defenses or got sufficiently unlucky, potentially perma-confusing you 14:23:26 even if you had a stack of curing 14:23:29 hrm, raises an interesting question of whether !curing to deal with confusion is necessary 14:23:39 if we were to shorten those durations systematically 14:23:50 yeah 14:24:34 how about making it MR-resistible? 14:24:48 possible, but kind of weird since it's a physical attack 14:25:16 I kind of like just letting it proc but making not so severe 14:25:20 it looks like 5-7 is used as a relatively standard confusion duration in most places, which seems pretty reasonable to me 14:25:25 (tarantellas don't use that though) 14:25:33 right, 5-7 is not too bad 14:25:42 what's the present duration for the big T? 14:25:47 paralysis is 2-7 for comparison 14:25:47 t-dawg 14:26:12 AF_CONFUSE is 1 + random2(3 + hd) 14:26:44 yeah 1-11 14:27:41 so I guess just shortening it a bit would be ok 14:28:09 <|amethyst> interestingly, 1-11 has the same mean as 5-7 14:28:10 perhaps no other change is really needed, although spider is still comparatively easy so I wouldn't mind if they got another buff 14:28:50 yeah, it's probably the max that we have a problem with 14:28:58 or I guess max and variance 14:29:04 to compensate, we can add tarantella shrikes 14:29:18 that revive when you kill them 14:29:31 huh apparently spore explosions always confuse for 3 turns exactly 14:29:43 wow, why was that a thing 14:30:01 I guess "don't make people waste too many cure pots"? 14:30:13 i doubt there is anything like that kind of logic behind it 14:30:43 probably "whoever implemented it set it at 3 and nobody ever noticed until now" :P 14:31:03 this is shattering my faith in the crawl development process!!! 14:31:05 GreatCaesar (L17 KoFi) ASSERT((iround(v.x) + iround(v.y)) % 2 == 1) in 'ray.cc' at line 117 failed. (Elf:1) 14:33:09 I just had a crash, as GreatCaesar on czso, but the follow-on instructions vanished before I could follow them. 14:33:33 It was an ASSERT while using a cloud rod 14:34:37 !lm * crash cszo 14:34:43 2770. [2016-01-05 19:30:33] GreatCaesar the Grand Gadgeteer (L17 KoFi of Pakellas) ASSERT((iround(v.x) + iround(v.y)) % 2 == 1) in 'ray.cc' at line 117 failed on turn 43260. (Elf:1) 14:34:43 probably a ray.cc crash 14:35:14 I was in a corridor 14:36:01 <|amethyst> !crashlog * cszo 14:36:04 2770. GreatCaesar, XL17 KoFi, T:43260 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/GreatCaesar/crash-GreatCaesar-20160105-193033.txt 14:36:49 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:38:09 <|amethyst> corridor doesn't matter, happens reliably from (3, 1) 14:38:45 <|amethyst> when you aim west 14:38:57 <|amethyst> or north 14:39:39 <|amethyst> it's the inscrutable rounding error bug 14:39:50 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:39:50 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:39:54 oh, but you've not found a way to reproduce it? 14:39:58 s/not/now/ 14:40:11 <|amethyst> it was always reproducible 14:40:15 oh wow 14:44:26 huh 14:44:41 all the pop_orc entries are 1-4, even though they're flat 14:44:50 <|amethyst> I'm kind of surprised it happens with targetter_cone actually 14:45:38 <|amethyst> I've never seen it trigger with a single beam aimed at a particular coord, only with something that involves angle manipluations 14:46:07 <|amethyst> but targetter_cone::set_aim converts everything to integer before doing anything related to rays 14:46:53 <|amethyst> which should be the same as aiming at several spots in sequence, which I've never seen crash 14:47:25 <|amethyst> targetter_thunderbolt on the other hand (and chaos bouncing when that was a thing) messes with rays directly, so I'm not surprised there 14:47:50 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:48:33 <|amethyst> oh 14:48:38 <|amethyst> this isn't targetter_cone 14:48:43 <|amethyst> what is that one used for? 14:49:05 <|amethyst> aha, glaciate 14:49:28 <|amethyst> not sure I've ever seen glaciate crash so maybe targetter_cone is taking the correct approach to avoid the bug 14:50:25 <|amethyst> targetter_shotgun does appear to mess with rays directly 14:55:20 <|amethyst> hm, this ray is r = {start = {x = 2.5, y = 2.5}, dir = {x = -1, y = 0}} and it bugs out when advancing to {x = -3, y = 2.5} 14:56:04 <|amethyst> and those numbers appear to be exact 14:56:31 <|amethyst> but that is exactly what you'd see aiming a normal ray in the same direction 14:57:39 <|amethyst> oh wait 14:57:42 <|amethyst> -3 14:58:52 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 14:58:58 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:59:19 <|amethyst> err, also I was starting at 2,2 (I guess I accidentally stepped instead of targetted once) but it still was a problem 15:00:05 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:41 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray\.cc -2 15:00:42 292/293. tomatochips, XL27 OgWz, T:107824 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/tomatochips/crash-tomatochips-20160104-123826.txt 15:00:43 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray\.cc -3 15:00:44 291/293. 2016, XL27 GrFi, T:103427 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/2016/crash-2016-20160103-185602.txt 15:00:45 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray\.cc -4 15:00:46 290/293. wem3, XL27 DDFi, T:78248 (milestone): http://webzook.net/soup/morgue/trunk/wem3/crash-wem3-20160102-120533.txt 15:01:00 <|amethyst> trying to find a location that isn't so close to the edge of the map 15:01:23 -!- Reverie has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 15:01:26 <|amethyst> tomatochips' is (57, 28), let's try that 15:02:03 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.18-a0-1000-gf6225c7: Make temporary mutation apply multiple levels of a bad mutation 10(70 minutes ago, 6 files, 19+ 29-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f6225c7b3c2a 15:03:27 <|amethyst> oh 15:03:45 <|amethyst> and tomatochips' crash is targetting just a rock 15:04:13 <|amethyst> oh, never mind 15:04:16 <|amethyst> it's a monster spell 15:04:55 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray\.cc -5 15:04:56 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray\.cc -6 15:04:56 289/293. sugabear, XL27 VSGl, T:58230 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/sugabear/crash-sugabear-20160101-233604.txt 15:04:56 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray\.cc -7 15:04:57 288/293. Laxior, XL27 GrFi, T:59466 (milestone): http://webzook.net/soup/morgue/trunk/Laxior/crash-Laxior-20151231-094308.txt 15:04:58 287/293. smocul, XL25 VSFi, T:45369 (milestone): http://webzook.net/soup/morgue/trunk/smocul/crash-smocul-20151230-040504.txt 15:05:24 <|amethyst> @??iron giant 15:05:25 iron giant (10C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 22 | HP: 176-253 | AC/EV: 18/2 | Dam: 75 | 10items, 10doors, fighter | Res: 06magic(120), 05fire, 02cold, 03poison, 12drown | XP: 5546 | Sp: iron shot (3d37) [06!sil], throw [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int: human. 15:05:34 <|amethyst> most of these seem to be from monster iron shot actually 15:05:38 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray\.cc -8 15:05:39 286/293. josefromcouch, XL27 KoGl, T:122182 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/josefromcouch/crash-josefromcouch-20151227-113257.txt 15:05:39 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray\.cc -9 15:05:40 285/293. Yermak, XL26 FeSk, T:53615 (milestone): http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/Yermak/crash-Yermak-20151226-004125.txt 15:05:54 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray\.cc -10 15:05:55 284/293. MakeMeASandwich, XL23 VSAK, T:49106 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/MakeMeASandwich/crash-MakeMeASandwich-20151223-224050.txt 15:05:56 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray\.cc -11 15:05:56 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray\.cc -12 15:05:57 283/293. MakeMeASandwich, XL24 MiGl, T:47876 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/MakeMeASandwich/crash-MakeMeASandwich-20151222-211032.txt 15:05:58 282/293. dvd, XL23 DDBe, T:57156 (milestone): http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/dvd/crash-dvd-20151220-171830.txt 15:06:13 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray\.cc -13 15:06:14 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray\.cc -14 15:06:14 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray\.cc -15 15:06:14 281/293. tomatochips, XL27 HuWz, T:64274 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/tomatochips/crash-tomatochips-20151216-164846.txt 15:06:15 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray\.cc -16 15:06:16 280/293. crate, XL18 HOAs, T:38865 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/crate/crash-crate-20151213-032541.txt 15:06:16 278/293. bleak, XL22 DDAr, T:64469 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/bleak/crash-bleak-20151205-224144.txt 15:06:17 279/293. Bamboomancer, XL18 OpAs, T:43954 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Bamboomancer/crash-Bamboomancer-20151208-215223.txt 15:06:56 <|amethyst> okay, crates' is good, rod of clouds from (12, 44) 15:09:03 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 15:09:05 The build has errored. (master - a6cb66c #4395 : Shmuale Mark): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/100417266 15:09:05 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 15:09:35 <|amethyst> hm, but crates' happens when self-targetting, so the dir is weird 15:09:46 MarvinPA: i was going to ask if i could resolve the pubby patch, but you beat me to it :P 15:09:56 heh 15:10:21 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 15:10:35 down to 20 open patches 15:10:41 and 11 PRs 15:11:35 oh 15:11:47 #9865 looks closable 15:12:27 probably, yeah 15:12:52 -!- Dirtsage has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:13:11 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 15:13:23 could still let deliberate self-confusion (ambrosia) go through clarity for consistency with that, i guess 15:13:32 i think that's something that's been brought up when this was discussed before 15:13:55 actually 15:14:30 6-7 turns of confusion is pretty rough on a char w/o !curing -- especially when it can hit you over and over. Maybe we just need a "no confusion" grace period, like with paralysis. 15:14:35 since clarity is just ash and katana, maybe it would be fine to just make it block berserk entirely 15:14:46 wheals: a c i d c r a b s 15:15:04 ebering: please don't encourage wheals to make more crabs 15:15:11 i forgot for a second that clarity does still exist 15:15:18 wheals: wasn't it Ash that the exception got made for in the first place? 15:15:27 Lasty_: i thought it was for Trog 15:15:30 ah 15:15:43 or possibly just for flavour reasons 15:16:24 <|amethyst> oh, hey, surprised no one has noticed this coordinate system information leak before 15:17:02 <|amethyst> when you self-target with the shotgun targetter, the cone points southeastish 15:17:14 <|amethyst> it actually turns out, it points directly away from (0,0) 15:17:26 haha 15:17:51 rod of navigation 15:17:56 rod of dowsing returns 15:18:10 <|amethyst> %git 19133e17 15:18:10 07kilobyte02 * 0.11-a0-2387-g19133e1: Rod of lightning. 10(3 years, 6 months ago, 20 files, 331+ 27-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/19133e17ae0e 15:18:28 03ebering02 {wheals} 07* 0.18-a0-1001-g18cdf19: Clarity blocks intentional zerk (bcadren, nvjack) 10(6 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/18cdf19ce4aa 15:18:32 %git 3f8334 15:18:32 07kilobyte02 * 0.6.0-a1-1695-g3f8334b: Make clarity allow intentional berserk. Unknown potions of rage override it as well. This is a debatable thing, but since other sources of involuntary berserk are caused by "being angry", it makes sense a drug is not affected by merely being calm. 10(6 years ago, 6 files, 13+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3f8334b021c1 15:19:04 weird, clarity used to make trog berserk have a really high fail rate i guess 15:19:22 <|amethyst> this problem is because, if find_ray() doesn't work, _make_ray constructs the fallback ray incorrectly 15:19:47 gammafunk: I'm affraid I've done far worse than just encourage 15:19:57 <|amethyst> (this = the dowsing thing, not the ray crash) 15:20:16 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 15:20:44 <|amethyst> I wonder what other fallback rays this might effect 15:21:07 <|amethyst> oh, I guess it's only thunderbolt and shotgun 15:24:46 <|amethyst> oh 15:24:51 <|amethyst> it also happens if you target past a grate 15:25:57 <|amethyst> the problem is, fixing it in the obvious way (by passing b.x - a.x, b.y - a.y as the dir coordinates for the geom::ray makes a self-targetted ray crash immediately 15:26:27 <|amethyst> s/ray/ray)/ 15:32:50 for #8472, i think it would be best if we just gave the percentage chance based on the monster type's average maxhp 15:33:51 i guess that doesn't work for derived undead, but those are mindless 15:33:57 and is misleading at best for levelled-up monsters 15:34:08 !bug 8472 15:34:09 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8472 15:34:11 and probably wrong for monstrous classed ds 15:34:18 so never mind i guess :\ 15:36:38 -!- Cerpin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:38:11 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:42:16 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:42:16 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 15:43:01 "Guys,what are you doing to the game? Can’t you just make two game options? (1) Crawl classic (2) Crawl Tournament. In the first mode, no stuff would be deleted but new stuff added. Believe it or not,but people like variety. Its no good to strip of everything for the sake of efficiency." 15:43:18 I wonder how Crawl Classic would play... 15:43:43 I guess that's what nostalgia was?? 15:43:45 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-1002-ged0b5f8: Don't badly aim rod of lightning/clouds southeast. 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ed0b5f8a9dbb 15:43:49 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:43:52 New Crawl 15:44:06 <|amethyst> nostalgia didn't re-add *everything* 15:44:17 Super Crawl Lots of Extra Old Stuff Re-added 15:44:47 <|amethyst> e.g. Ashenzari would have to give both skill boosts and XP boosts 15:45:43 will that commit fix many crashes? 15:45:57 <|amethyst> none 15:46:08 <|amethyst> well 15:46:32 Are you worried about infinite shop items bug? 15:46:34 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:46:35 <|amethyst> I guess it will stop the ones that happened because self-targetting pointed southeast in just the right way to trigger the rounding bug 15:46:44 rip 15:46:45 Or did you rebuild for that already, wheals 15:47:03 * |amethyst starts a game real quick 15:47:11 |amethyst: remember to worship gozag! 15:47:36 <|amethyst> eh, like I'd actually be able to exploit such a bug 15:48:12 <|amethyst> that involves surviving long enough to find a shop 15:48:23 <|amethyst> (or to get enough money to buy one) 15:49:30 <|amethyst> gammafunk: though that does make me wonder 15:49:54 <|amethyst> gammafunk: how broken would it be if this were Gozag's replacement for item duplication 15:50:19 buy one shop item, but get two? 15:50:34 <|amethyst> or, shop items never go away 15:50:36 I guess it depends on how you mean 15:50:43 <|amethyst> I guess that is broken for several types of itmes 15:50:49 <|amethyst> cheap things like ?ident 15:51:04 <|amethyst> s/tme/tem/ 15:52:58 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 15:53:45 <|amethyst> Grunt: is there any reason the while loop in targetter_shotgun doesn't end early when we set hit = false? 15:54:14 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:54:16 <|amethyst> Grunt: is there any reason to keep advancing the ray past the wall (and, indeed, past the edge of the map)? 15:56:12 <|amethyst> Grunt: for that matter, is there even a reason to store rays[] in the targetter? it doesn't look like the rays are used after set_aim, rather zapped[] is 15:57:02 -!- roadmap has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:57:58 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:59:36 huh, to small aboms have randomized hd? 15:59:41 @??small_abomination 15:59:41 small abomination (04x) | Spd: 7-15 | HD: 4 | HP: 22-31 | AC/EV: 6/9 | Dam: 23 | 07undead, evil, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(40), 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 122 | Sz: Large | Int: brainless. 15:59:44 @??small_abomination 15:59:44 small abomination (04x) | Spd: 7-15 | HD: 4 | HP: 22-31 | AC/EV: 6/9 | Dam: 23 | 07undead, evil, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(40), 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 122 | Sz: Large | Int: brainless. 16:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:54 @??macabe_mass 16:00:54 unknown monster: "macabe_mass" 16:00:57 @??macabre_mass 16:00:57 macabre mass (07x) | Spd: 5 | HD: 1 | HP: 2-4 | AC/EV: 1/0 | 07undead, evil, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 0 | Sz: small | Int: brainless. 16:01:07 ??macabre_mass 16:01:07 twisted resurrection[1/3]: Converts all piles of corpses in LOS into crawling corpses or macabre masses, very weak attackless creatures that can merge to form abominations. Creates 1HD worth of creatures per 60 to 20 aum, depending on spell power (and with half efficiency past 15 HD). Small aboms require 6HD and two corpses, large 11HD and three corpses. Replaced with {cigotuvi's embrace} in 0.16. 16:01:54 <|amethyst> when crawlies merge, their HD are added 16:02:06 -!- Reverie has joined ##crawl-dev 16:02:23 |amethyst: yeah, I'm trying to figure out why objstat sees the hd of small aboms as varying 16:02:28 if it's a vault setting their hd 16:02:35 hangedman does that some with macabre masses 16:02:57 but I don't see anything for small aboms 16:03:06 oh 16:03:12 !source init_abomination 16:03:13 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-util.cc#l2743 16:03:16 <|amethyst> I believe natural aboms are.. 16:03:16 <|amethyst> yeah 16:04:07 <|amethyst> well, the line in question is 16:04:14 <|amethyst> about a page down in define_monster 16:04:20 <|amethyst> hd = 4 + random2(4); 16:04:20 <|amethyst> mons->props[MON_SPEED_KEY] = 7 + random2avg(9, 2); 16:04:20 <|amethyst> init_abomination(mons, hd); 16:04:23 -!- argent0_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:05:01 yeah, and shapeshifters also get randomized hds, I guess 16:05:22 well something is changing their hd 16:05:24 small abomination (04x) | Spd: 7-15 | HD: 7 | HP: 12-44 | AC/EV: 6/9 | Dam: 23 | 07undead, evil, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(40), 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 122 | Sz: Large | Int: brainless. 16:05:24 %??small_abomination 16:05:31 theirs and glowing shapeshifters' 16:06:04 in monster or objstat? 16:06:06 <|amethyst> gammafunk: because they polymorph on placement 16:06:12 <|amethyst> @??shapeshifter 16:06:12 shapeshifter (02h) | Spd: 5-30 | HD: 6 | HP: 12-74 | AC/EV: 4/9 | Dam: 9, 5, 5 | 10doors | Res: 06magic(40) | Vul: 11silver | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 337 | Sp: (random) | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 16:06:12 ah, ok 16:06:21 <|amethyst> @??black bear 16:06:22 black bear (02h) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 23-31 | AC/EV: 2/8 | Dam: 9, 5, 5 | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 128 | Sp: berserker rage [11!AM, 06!sil, 04emergency] | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 16:06:28 Do they have an internal hd I should be using? 16:06:28 <|amethyst> @??shapeshifter hd:2 16:06:28 shapeshifter (15g) | Spd: 3-30 | HD: 1 | HP: 2-33 | AC/EV: 1/11 | Dam: 4 | 10doors | Res: 06magic(40) | Vul: 11silver | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 18 | Sp: (random) | Sz: small | Int: human. 16:06:31 <|amethyst> @??shapeshifter hd:10 16:06:32 shapeshifter (08T) | Spd: 6-18 | HD: 10 | HP: 28-82 | AC/EV: 5/8 | Dam: 27, 2009(claw), 2009(claw) | 10doors | Res: 06magic(40) | Vul: 11silver | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 569 | Sp: (random) | Sz: Large | Int: human. 16:06:37 maybe the apparent hd is the best thing anyhow 16:06:50 -!- Reverie has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:06:50 <|amethyst> yes 16:06:57 <|amethyst> since that's what determines what they will poly into 16:07:03 <|amethyst> next time I mean 16:07:06 !source dbg-objstat.cc:786 16:07:07 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dbg-objstat.cc#l786 16:07:21 <|amethyst> @??shapeshifter hd:9 16:07:21 shapeshifter (12h) | Spd: 6-15 | HD: 7 | HP: 27-80 | AC/EV: 5/8 | Dam: 20, 5, 5 | 10doors | Res: 06magic(40), 12drown | Vul: 11silver | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 473 | Sp: (random) | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 16:07:29 <|amethyst> @??polar bear 16:07:29 polar bear (12h) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 37-53 | AC/EV: 7/8 | Dam: 20, 5, 5 | amphibious | Res: 06magic(20), 02cold, 12drown | XP: 296 | Sp: berserker rage [11!AM, 06!sil, 04emergency] | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 16:07:51 wheals: is that wrong, or something? 16:07:58 no, just pointing out where it happens 16:08:01 I recall changing this way back because it seemed to be the only way to tell 16:08:03 ok 16:09:25 chunk_effect != CE_NOCORPSE && mons_class_can_leave_corpse(type) 16:09:35 not sure if both are necessary since chunk_effect comes from the type 16:09:38 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:10:05 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:10:09 !source mons_class_can_leave_corpse 16:10:09 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-util.cc#l1655 16:10:20 heh 16:10:21 nope 16:15:43 -!- Blazinghbnd_ is now known as Blazinghand 16:19:05 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:19:49 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:24:25 -!- Zeor has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:24:41 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 16:26:12 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:27:35 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:28:14 -!- blabber has quit [Client Quit] 16:28:52 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:29:47 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:30:48 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:30:52 -!- clouded_ is now known as st_ 16:31:17 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 16:32:39 <|amethyst> !crashlog greatcaesar 16:32:40 1. GreatCaesar, XL17 KoFi, T:43260 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/GreatCaesar/crash-GreatCaesar-20160105-193033.txt 16:34:21 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:34:51 <|amethyst> oh 16:34:58 <|amethyst> this one is not actually the rounding error 16:35:31 <|amethyst> which explains why I was seeing the error on the beam aimed orthogonally 16:36:56 <|amethyst> I'm not sure whether to fix this by making _round_to_corner handle negative numbers, or by making the beam not progress into negative coordinates 16:36:59 <|amethyst> I guess both 16:37:53 -!- xczxc has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:39:38 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.18-a0-1003-gd97a107: Standardise some confusion durations 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d97a107eea44 16:39:38 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.18-a0-1004-ga351c64: Increase Monstrous Menagerie to L7, Shadow Creatures to L6 10(8 days ago, 2 files, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a351c642da8d 16:39:45 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 16:44:18 Good level adjustments 16:45:09 especially good that they got placed after I won my summoner. <.< >.> 16:45:59 <|amethyst> oh, I see, the rays are needed because they're used in cast_scattershot 16:46:05 <|amethyst> which makes sense 16:47:28 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:47:52 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 16:50:03 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:50:38 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:51:21 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:51:38 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:56:30 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:58:27 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:00:07 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:01:57 hrm 17:02:03 @??tiamat 17:02:03 Tiamat (03d) | Spd: 10 | HD: 22 | HP: 327-441 | AC/EV: 35/10 | Dam: 60, 45, 1508(poison:44-88) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, cold-blooded, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(140), 03poison | Vul: 11silver | XP: 9371 | Sp: b.lightning (3d25) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / b.quicksilver (3d20) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / chilling breath (3d28) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / poisonous cloud (.. 17:02:11 wow, good range 17:02:20 @??antaeus 17:02:20 Antaeus (11C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 22 | HP: 560-809 | AC/EV: 28/4 | Dam: 7512(cold:22-65), 3012(cold:22-65) | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, amphibious, unholy, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 11elec+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 16654 | Sp: b.lightning (3d25) [06!sil], flash freeze (3d29) [06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int:.. 17:02:53 @??seraph 17:02:53 seraph (13A) | Spd: 15 | HD: 25 | HP: 181-243 | AC/EV: 20/19 | Dam: 50, 20 | 08holy, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, priest, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(160), 04fire+++, 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 08holy | XP: 11186 | Sp: hunting cry [11!AM, 08breath], sum.holies [11!AM], injury bond [11!AM], cleansing flame [11!AM], smiting (7-17) [11!AM], minor healing (2d12) .. 17:04:09 !tell PleasingFungus I finally got around to finished that script to merge objstat output by object and place, and it looks like there's nothing weird when I look at the absolute value of difference between average monsters hp before and after your randomization changes 17:04:10 gammafunk: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 17:05:34 @?antaeus 17:05:34 Antaeus (11C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 22 | HP: 560-809 | AC/EV: 28/4 | Dam: 7512(cold:22-65), 3012(cold:22-65) | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, amphibious, unholy, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 11elec+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 16654 | Sp: b.lightning (3d25) [06!sil], flash freeze (3d29) [06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int:.. 17:05:41 Antaeus (11C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 22 | HP: 700 | AC/EV: 28/4 | Dam: 7512(cold:22-65), 3012(cold:22-65) | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, amphibious, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 11elec+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 17142 | Sp: b.lightning (3d25) [06!sil], flash freeze (3d29) [06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int: human. 17:05:41 %0.16?antaeus 17:05:42 !tell PleasingFungus It seems a few big differences from things like Tiamat and seraphs, but they're within the variation you'd expect from those monsters having large hp that's randomized over a big range 17:05:43 gammafunk: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 17:05:56 i'm excited to see 809 hp antaeus 17:06:08 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 17:06:09 The build passed. 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Bering IV): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/100434141 17:06:09 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 17:06:26 @??tiamat ench:berserk 17:06:26 Tiamat (02d) | Spd: 15 | HD: 22 | HP: 471-663 | AC/EV: 35/10 | Dam: 90, 67 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, cold-blooded, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(140), 11elec+++, 03poison | Vul: 11silver | XP: 9451 | Sp: b.lightning (3d25) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / b.quicksilver (3d20) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / chilling breath (3d28) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / poisonous cloud (3d13) [1.. 17:06:30 not bad 17:06:43 MarvinPA: I literally just got those spells on my MuSu, but now how am I going to survive?! 17:06:47 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:07:52 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:08:00 Too bad no lengthy commit messages that would be good fodder for the "another caster nerf" posts 17:09:55 @??antaeus perm_ench:berserk 17:09:55 Antaeus (11C) | Spd: 15 | HD: 22 | HP: 840-1214 | AC/EV: 28/4 | Dam: 11212(cold:22-65), 4512(cold:22-65) | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, amphibious, unholy, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 11elec+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 16654 | Sp: b.lightning (3d25) [06!sil], flash freeze (3d29) [06!sil] | Sz: Giant | In.. 17:10:05 too bad he can't actually get it 17:10:20 fr: demonic berserk 17:10:46 and under demonic berserk, they can still cast spells 17:10:52 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-1005-g0c0fb3d: Stop shotgun/tbolt targetting rays at solid features. 10(17 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 16-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0c0fb3d0ef8c 17:10:52 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-1006-g6b5bfb2: Properly round rays with negative coordinates. 10(31 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6b5bfb2098d2 17:11:23 <|amethyst> that at least fixes the most recent crash 17:11:29 <|amethyst> no idea about all those monster crashes 17:11:34 also it doubles their hp 17:11:37 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:12:42 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:12:52 did C++11 change the effect of the % operator on negative operands? 17:13:51 <|amethyst> wheals: before C++11 it was implementation-defined 17:14:14 ah 17:14:23 <|amethyst> wheals: in practice that's how most hardware worked anyway, though 17:17:47 <|amethyst> wheals: (not just %, also the rounding behaviour of /, since the two are defined concurrently) 17:18:27 <|amethyst> s/concurrently/in tandem/ 17:19:10 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray\.cc -17 17:19:11 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray\.cc -18 17:19:11 277/293. tigertrap, XL23 MfSu, T:68222 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/tigertrap/crash-tigertrap-20151205-180515.txt 17:19:12 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray\.cc -19 17:19:12 276/293. tigertrap, XL22 MfSu, T:68188 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/tigertrap/crash-tigertrap-20151205-175550.txt 17:19:13 275/293. tigertrap, XL23 MfSu, T:67476 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/tigertrap/crash-tigertrap-20151205-172601.txt 17:19:14 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray\.cc -20 17:19:15 274/293. comborobin, XL25 DEEn, T:64741 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/comborobin/crash-comborobin-20151203-062150.txt 17:19:15 huh, i thought it was just truncation 17:19:37 <|amethyst> it is now 17:19:50 <|amethyst> previously, implementations were allowed to round down instead 17:19:59 interesting 17:20:25 <|amethyst> Python does round down 17:20:46 <|amethyst> >>> 11//2, -11//2 17:20:46 <|amethyst> (5, -6) 17:24:09 <|amethyst> (the advantage of rounding down is that then the remainder is always the same sign as the divisor) 17:25:34 <|amethyst> (while still satisfying (a/b)*b + a%b == a , which equality people really seem to like) 17:27:38 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 17:31:42 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:36:38 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:45:17 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 17:48:15 -!- spring_break_08 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:50:38 -!- Earlo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:52:41 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:53:10 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 17:54:44 <|amethyst> hm 17:55:48 -!- MgDark_ has quit [Client Quit] 17:55:54 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 17:55:55 The build passed. (master - ed0b5f8 #4398 : Neil Moore): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/100440332 17:55:55 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 17:56:20 <|amethyst> the other recent ray.cc crashes seems to be SPELL_THROW 17:57:15 <|amethyst> !crashlog * current noun~~ray\.cc / noun~~_valid 17:57:16 23/29 milestones for * (current noun~~ray\.cc): N=23/29 (79.31%) 17:57:22 <|amethyst> !crashlog * current noun~~ray\.cc s=noun 17:57:23 29 milestones for * (current noun~~ray\.cc crash): 14x ASSERT( valid) in 'ray.cc' at line 194 failed., 9x ASSERT( valid) in 'ray.cc' at line 226 failed., 3x ASSERT(in non diamond int(r.start)) in 'ray.cc' at line 217 failed., 2x ASSERT((iround(v.x) + iround(v.y)) % 2 == 1) in 'ray.cc' at line 117 failed., ASSERT(in diamond int(r->start)) in 'ray.cc' at line 166 failed. 17:57:47 <|amethyst> maybe most of those ASSERT(_valid)s 17:58:11 <|amethyst> err, at least the line 194 ones 17:58:15 <|amethyst> line 226 is regress 17:58:25 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:58:30 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray.cc'_at_line_226 17:58:31 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 17:58:32 18. tigertrap, XL23 MfSu, T:68222 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/tigertrap/crash-tigertrap-20151205-180515.txt 17:58:52 <|amethyst> yeah, that one is some different monster spell 17:58:55 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray.cc'_at_line_226 -2 17:58:56 17/18. tigertrap, XL22 MfSu, T:68188 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/tigertrap/crash-tigertrap-20151205-175550.txt 17:59:00 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray.cc'_at_line_226 -4 17:59:02 15/18. vogonpoet, XL18 SpEn, T:52564 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.17/vogonpoet/crash-vogonpoet-20151110-144513.txt 18:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:42 <|amethyst> oh, those are pproj 18:01:04 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray.cc'_at_line_194 -1 18:01:04 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray.cc'_at_line_194 -2 18:01:05 63. tomatochips, XL27 OgWz, T:107824 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/tomatochips/crash-tomatochips-20160104-123826.txt 18:01:05 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray.cc'_at_line_194 -3 18:01:05 62/63. 2016, XL27 GrFi, T:103427 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/2016/crash-2016-20160103-185602.txt 18:01:06 61/63. wem3, XL27 DDFi, T:78248 (milestone): http://webzook.net/soup/morgue/trunk/wem3/crash-wem3-20160102-120533.txt 18:01:09 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray.cc'_at_line_194 -4 18:01:10 60/63. sugabear, XL27 VSGl, T:58230 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/sugabear/crash-sugabear-20160101-233604.txt 18:01:12 <|amethyst> !crashlog * noun~~ray.cc'_at_line_194 -5 18:01:13 59/63. Laxior, XL27 GrFi, T:59466 (milestone): http://webzook.net/soup/morgue/trunk/Laxior/crash-Laxior-20151231-094308.txt 18:01:27 -!- Katal445 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:01:37 <|amethyst> sugabear's has a gdb backtrace 18:02:14 <|amethyst> hm 18:02:31 <|amethyst> _choose_throw_dest has the ray still (0,0) 18:03:14 <|amethyst> probably find_ray failed 18:04:54 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-a0-1006-g6b5bfb2 (34) 18:08:11 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:08:18 -!- hyperbolic has joined ##crawl-dev 18:08:28 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 18:10:51 <|amethyst> oh 18:10:56 <|amethyst> %git d731100b 18:10:56 07elliptic02 * 0.18-a0-300-gd731100: Don't let Robin try to throw goblins through statues (qw). 10(6 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d731100b2624 18:11:00 -!- elliptic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:11:40 -!- hyperbolic is now known as elliptic 18:11:54 Allow robin to disintegrate statues by throwing goblins. 18:12:13 A Robin of Devestation comes into view. 18:12:13 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:12:16 *Devastation 18:12:26 <|amethyst> it turns out that, for spell_throw as opposed to spell_throw_ally, the beam does start at the victim 18:12:31 if it's an orcish idol does robin get smited? 18:12:38 smitten, watever 18:12:42 no, you do 18:13:06 hrm 18:13:11 !source spell_throw 18:13:12 Can't find spell_throw. 18:13:38 <|amethyst> !source _mons_consider_throwing 18:13:38 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-cast.cc#l89 18:13:43 <|amethyst> !source _maybe_throw_ally 18:13:44 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-cast.cc#l91 18:15:19 -!- Reverie has joined ##crawl-dev 18:16:04 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 18:16:25 <|amethyst> I guess the simplest fix is to make iron giant work like robin instead 18:16:36 -!- hurdos has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:16:37 <|amethyst> and throw from the thrower, not the victim 18:16:47 that seems reasonable 18:17:08 I believe I made it choose a ray from the victim to the dest because that "seemed natural" 18:17:20 but there's not much in the way of gameplay difference 18:17:35 actually that's a good change, since one thing I'd like to do is remove the restriction that the player has to see the dest square 18:17:59 so it can instead be that the thrower has to see the dest square 18:18:22 <|amethyst> hm 18:18:34 <|amethyst> what about the weights?? 18:18:35 of course considering opc_solid_see and habitability 18:18:43 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:18:48 that should be made consistent I think 18:18:50 <|amethyst> should iron giant try to throw you far away from where your were, or far away from itself? 18:18:52 so relative to thrower 18:19:06 yeah since it's always adjacent to you, not a big gameplay difference 18:19:24 but it makes sense that it would be consistent with the source throw location 18:20:23 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:20:50 <|amethyst> well, it would also make sense if the iron giant were trying to mess you up rather than just keep you away 18:20:54 <|amethyst> but I agree 18:21:15 <|amethyst> it makes more sense anyway that it's trying to get you far away to be able to iron shot you better 18:21:28 <|amethyst> (for values of "better") 18:22:52 part of it is simply getting you from a more favorable position to a less favorable one 18:23:04 very favorable being a killhole at one extreme 18:23:30 but even if it can't iron shot you after the throw, it can put you adjacent to its band monsters 18:23:47 (or any other hostiles it can see) 18:25:37 hrm 18:25:49 wonder if we can query banishment stats well 18:25:54 !kw deepbanish 18:25:55 No keyword 'deepbanish' 18:25:58 -!- debo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:26:39 -!- Cerpin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:28:25 %git 610738336285afa297dd697f6ef7fc38efa3e548 18:28:25 07ebering02 {wheals} * 0.18-a0-287-g6107383: Track power of successful banishment. 10(3 months ago, 11 files, 36+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/610738336285 18:28:36 -!- Graydot-ZzZ is now known as Graydot- 18:28:39 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 18:28:54 !kw deepbanish vlong>=0.18-a0-287-g6107383 18:28:55 Defined keyword: deepbanish => vlong>=0.18-a0-287-g6107383 18:29:05 !lm * banished 18:29:07 122367. [2016-01-05 23:26:06] hatguy the Minotaur Blade (L22 MiFi of Okawaru) was cast into the Abyss! (trident of distortion) (Elf:3) 18:29:27 !lm * banished recent !deepbanish / lg:br=Abyss 18:29:36 not exactly accurage but shold be close enough 18:29:57 !lm * banished recent deepbanish / lg:br=Abyss 18:29:59 8772/28568 milestones for * (banished recent !deepbanish): N=8772/28568 (30.71%) 18:30:05 755/2313 milestones for * (banished recent deepbanish): N=755/2313 (32.64%) 18:31:22 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 18:33:45 !lm * banished recent deepbanish x=noun,verb 18:33:47 2313. [2016-01-05 23:26:06] [noun=trident of distortion;verb=abyss.enter] hatguy the Minotaur Blade (L22 MiFi of Okawaru) was cast into the Abyss! (trident of distortion) (Elf:3) 18:34:00 is there a way to see the destination level? 18:34:02 too bad you can't get the depth they were banished too 18:34:05 hah 18:34:07 2slo 18:34:14 dang 18:34:36 hrm 18:34:52 !lm * banished recent !deepbanish xL>=17 / lg:br=Abyss 18:35:03 !lm * banished recent deepbanish xL>=17 / lg:br=Abyss 18:35:07 oops 18:35:10 MarvinPA: good mutation commit 18:35:11 1927/16376 milestones for * (banished recent !deepbanish xL>=17): N=1927/16376 (11.77%) 18:35:19 175/1322 milestones for * (banished recent deepbanish xL>=17): N=175/1322 (13.24%) 18:35:41 !cmd .deepbanish 18:35:42 No command .deepbanish 18:35:44 !cmd !deepbanish 18:35:44 No command !deepbanish 18:35:50 ebering had something 18:35:58 I couldn't find a kw, so I made one 18:36:13 oh deepabyss 18:36:15 !lm * deepbanish br.enter=abyss 18:36:16 No milestones for * (deepbanish br.enter=abyss). 18:36:37 !kw banished 18:36:38 Keyword: banished => abyss.enter noun!="entered the Abyss!" noun!="escaped (hah) into the Abyss!" 18:36:44 use that kw 18:36:55 well unless you want not banishment 18:36:55 !log * deepbanish banished 18:36:56 No keyword 'abyss.enter' 18:36:59 !cmd .banishedd 18:36:59 No command .banishedd 18:37:03 !cmd .banisheddd 18:37:04 Command: .banisheddd => !lm * abyss.enter br=Abyss lvl>=3 x=place 18:37:06 i was wondering if there was a milestone immediately after 18:37:09 that shows the level you enter 18:37:12 hrm 18:37:13 !log * abyss:5 18:37:14 514. willhelm, XL26 HEAE, T:101889: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/willhelm/morgue-willhelm-20160103-233926.txt 18:37:15 so it's in the lvl? 18:37:23 yeah 18:37:29 !lm * banished deepabyss s=lvl 18:37:52 !kw deepbanish 18:37:53 Keyword: deepbanish => vlong>=0.18-a0-287-g6107383 18:37:55 !kw deepabyss 18:37:55 Keyword: deepabyss => vlong>=0.18-a0-289-g35c3a75 !experimental 18:38:02 yeah slightly different 18:38:09 but that commit doesn't actually make the change 18:38:12 2295 milestones for * (banished deepabyss): 908x 2, 686x 3, 473x 1, 122x 4, 106x 5 18:38:15 the later one I mean 18:38:38 %git 35c3a75 18:38:38 07ebering02 {wheals} * 0.18-a0-289-g35c3a75: Correctly mark abyss.enter milestone 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 3+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/35c3a759c2a1 18:38:43 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 18:38:45 ah but for lm purposes 18:38:48 I guess we should use that 18:39:01 well nothing is gonna have one but not the other 18:39:04 practically 18:39:15 right but we should use one or the other 18:39:16 !kw -rm deepabyss 18:39:17 Deleted keyword: deepabyss => vlong>=0.18-a0-289-g35c3a75 !experimental 18:39:19 er 18:39:20 eff 18:39:38 !kw deepabyss vlong>=0.18-a0-289-g35c3a75 !experimental 18:39:39 Defined keyword: deepabyss => vlong>=0.18-a0-289-g35c3a75 !experimental 18:39:50 !kw deepbanish deepabyss 18:39:51 Defined keyword: deepbanish => deepabyss 18:40:03 ok so 18:40:32 !lm * recent !boring banished deepabyss lvl>=3 / lg:br=abyss 18:40:56 165/871 milestones for * (recent !boring banished deepabyss lvl>=3): N=165/871 (18.94%) 18:41:06 decent 18:41:11 !lm * recent !boring banished deepabyss lvl>=3 x=avg(xl) 18:41:25 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:41:26 !lm * recent !boring banished deepabyss lvl>=3 min=xl 18:41:31