00:00:00 fun new situations! 00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:08 Daviar (L15 TrBe) ASSERT(in_bounds(where)) in 'shout.cc' at line 763 failed. (where = (0,0)) (Orc:1) 00:00:12 it may help with killholes a bit in elf, but you can still use them for killholing, and elf isn't really any harder now (it feels to me) 00:00:14 didn't we even get a patch for them? 00:00:17 it might be a bit more interesting, at least 00:00:23 -!- Evablue has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:25 !kw newelf 00:00:26 Keyword: newelf => vlong>=0.18-a0-779-gf9919a2 00:00:36 alright 6am, sleep 00:00:41 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: sleeeep] 00:00:43 !send sleep dpeg 00:00:43 !lm br.enter=elf newelf !boring / lg:br=elf 00:00:44 Sending dpeg to sleep. 00:00:50 0/1 milestone for gammafunk (br.enter=elf newelf !boring): N=0/1 (0.00%) 00:00:56 !send gammafunk a * 00:00:57 Sending a * to gammafunk. 00:00:59 of course 0 for me silly! 00:01:02 !lm * br.enter=elf newelf !boring / lg:br=elf 00:01:10 179/1098 milestones for * (br.enter=elf newelf !boring): N=179/1098 (16.30%) 00:01:15 !lm * br.enter=elf recent !newelf !boring / lg:br=elf 00:01:23 4069/27469 milestones for * (br.enter=elf recent !newelf !boring): N=4069/27469 (14.81%) 00:01:34 slight variation, but not significant 00:01:34 good 00:01:37 maybe a blip, but it's no forestdisp 00:01:54 wasnt' the goald to make elf harder? 00:02:05 wow that sentence 00:02:25 !crashlog 00:02:26 12841. Daviar, XL15 TrBe, T:18791 (milestone): http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/Daviar/crash-Daviar-20160103-045947.txt 00:02:38 I'm not sure "harder" was the goal so much as 00:02:41 "more interesting" 00:03:16 we could just tune the RNG. Watch the winrate and yield worse results to keep it in check 00:03:19 oh, it's a ghost at 0,0 00:03:21 elf needs to be harder imo, as part of being more interesting 00:03:29 Grunt: i had a good time in orc again btw. still a big fan of neworc, and miidly positive on newelf 00:03:36 hooray for neworc 00:03:39 anybody figure out why those are happening 00:03:41 it worked even better than I'd hoped :) 00:04:10 !kw neworc 00:04:10 Keyword: neworc => vlong>=0.18-a0-752-ga64f057 00:04:15 !lm * neworc br.enter=orc / lg:place=orc 00:04:22 !lm * recent !neworc br.enter=orc / lg:place=orc 00:04:39 525/3011 milestones for * (neworc br.enter=orc): N=525/3011 (17.44%) 00:04:44 11727/67955 milestones for * (recent !neworc br.enter=orc): N=11727/67955 (17.26%) 00:04:49 v interesting 00:04:59 pretty small blip 00:05:19 !lm * recent !neworc trunk br.enter=orc / lg:place=orc 00:06:18 6805/38671 milestones for * (recent !neworc trunk br.enter=orc): N=6805/38671 (17.60%) 00:06:44 i guess it goes to show how harmless orc:1-3 were 00:06:57 that the branch is half as long as just as dangerous 00:07:05 it's more 00:07:17 "the presence of plain orcs makes zero difference in the threat level" 00:07:35 well the design issues with these branches isn't mostly about the length changes imo; the length change for orc is nice, at least 00:07:44 but some changes are better than no changes at all 00:07:54 yep 00:10:39 -!- mauris has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:10:53 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:14:06 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:18:06 the fun part of old Orc was the popcorn. I realize this isn't always something that is needed but it was definitely somewhat satisfying sometimes. 00:18:43 (this isn't a criticism of current Orc. I haven't played it yet and streamlining is probably almost always a Good Thing) 00:21:03 yeah PF made the point that it was kind of the 'mechanic' of the branch 00:21:15 but it didn't get realized in a great way 00:22:06 neworc doesn't prevent making other changes, including 'meaningful mobs of enemies' if you can make those mobs function as more than something to mow down 00:22:27 I still have copious notes on potential weird orc enemies that capitalize on mobs 00:22:36 yeah like his orc vomiters 00:22:41 ya 00:22:42 he's totally serious about it 00:22:42 one of the things I might want to do is make them some kind of orc 'ally race' 00:22:44 rather than orcs 00:22:47 I'm always serious. 00:22:58 hrm 00:23:04 gnollish pukers 00:23:25 or...a tie in to his butt_lang? 00:23:46 I also had the idea we could give de master archers laser arrows 00:24:57 !lg * ckaux=ijyb 00:25:03 3. goodtk the Cutter (L3 VSGl of Makhleb), hit from afar by Robin (Ijyb) on D:2 on 2015-11-17 01:30:04, with 39 points after 808 turns and 0:06:44. 00:25:03 woah 00:25:07 3 now? 00:25:15 !lg * ckaux=ijyb x=dam 00:25:16 3. [dam=3] goodtk the Cutter (L3 VSGl of Makhleb), hit from afar by Robin (Ijyb) on D:2 on 2015-11-17 01:30:04, with 39 points after 808 turns and 0:06:44. 00:25:18 epic 00:26:30 ! 00:26:32 when did we reach 3 00:27:18 !lg * ckaux=ijyb x=dam -2 00:27:20 2/3. [dam=2] therebi the Skirmisher (L4 OpFi), hit from afar by Robin (Ijyb) on D:3 on 2015-11-13 09:02:18, with 91 points after 1404 turns and 0:02:36. 00:27:23 -!- beogh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:27:26 wow, two recent ones 00:27:35 wonderful 00:27:38 so wonderful 00:27:52 I Survived Veh Wrath And All I Got Was This Selection Of Low-Level Conjurations Suitable For A Hybrid Character 00:28:02 the heck 00:28:04 !lm PleasingFungus 00:28:05 6418. [2016-01-03 05:11:35] PleasingFungus the Spear-Bearer (L12 FoWn of Ashenzari) entered a Volcano on turn 11283. (Lair:3) 00:28:16 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-987-g0b0e4e7 (34) 00:28:37 &dump 00:28:38 http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/PleasingFungus/PleasingFungus.txt 00:28:47 this is basically a speedrun. 00:29:03 !lm PleasingFungus x=turns 00:29:04 6419. [2016-01-03 05:26:55] [turn=12924] PleasingFungus the Spear-Bearer (L12 FoWn of Ashenzari) mollified Vehumet on turn 12924. (Lair:4) 00:29:06 !lm PleasingFungus x=dur 00:29:07 6419. [2016-01-03 05:26:55] [dur=1:06:18] PleasingFungus the Spear-Bearer (L12 FoWn of Ashenzari) mollified Vehumet on turn 12924. (Lair:4) 00:29:11 . . . 00:29:18 :) 00:29:22 9263 | Lair:2 | HP: 1/84 [divine wrath (43)] 00:29:27 <3 00:30:10 Thanks, Veh. Theh. 00:30:24 learn add vehumet_wrath 00:30:43 gammafunk: not sure about gnolls. maybe ogres. maybe a new race. idk. 00:30:48 doesn't matter that much, I suppose. 00:30:57 orctaurs? 00:31:01 ! 00:31:05 yakorcs 00:31:17 what's this about...? 00:31:25 orc enemy ideas? 00:31:27 the key thing is avoiding having to design for beogh. unless we want any hypothetical new orc designs to be available for beoghites. 00:31:32 but that makes life more complicated. 00:31:38 orc raiders. 00:31:42 oh yeah that is a good point 00:31:43 sooner or later I will implement them. 00:31:50 -!- ophanim has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:31:51 but it's not to say we *have* to make them avail to beogh 00:31:52 orctaurs. 00:31:56 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:32:11 +1 00:32:14 orc raiders get a fedora and a whip? please. 00:32:18 ha 00:32:29 orc raider -> orc knight on a warg 00:32:55 hrm, make the wargs have a bone in their mouthes 00:33:02 so we can call them bone riders >.> 00:33:14 nah, we are already putting bone riders in Tomb, remember 00:33:15 >.> 00:33:28 and an undead tree 00:33:28 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: Farewell.] 00:33:38 when you get it to half hp it spit out bone riders 00:33:41 an undead tree.... 00:33:42 the undead tree is for crypt <.< 00:34:20 arguably orc should have orc diggers... earth elementalists of some kind 00:34:26 um 00:34:30 the name you want is orc miners 00:34:31 obviously 00:34:33 :) 00:34:46 sounds like a pretty 00:34:48 insignificant enemy 00:34:51 considered that. also considered donald's orc speech >.> 00:34:55 no, please we don't want to get into trouble with orc osha by employing minors 00:35:46 we do have that diamond mine layout, which is a pretty cool one imo 00:35:58 the which...? 00:36:00 if orcs had an osha then plain orcs woudn't be popcorn... 00:36:09 the one infini added; it's already being used but 00:36:10 I like it 00:36:32 (proper armour...) 00:36:37 they're all basically reasonable mine layouts, the ones we use in orc I mean 00:37:00 geekosaur: well no one said orc osha was competent 00:37:06 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:37:12 Orc Slaughter and Harm Association 00:37:18 hah 00:37:19 then again the biggest problem with orc miners is that they mine things and now we're infringing on angband >.> 00:37:45 we're already ripping off some things from NetHack; might as well expand our horizons a bit........... 00:38:15 (I think I'd prefer not adding something that encourages the *player* to try some mining) 00:38:39 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 00:38:39 well, let's not tell geekosaur about Formicids 00:40:12 not so much that, as miners are presumably looking for gold etc. --- if it's there to give the orc miners something to dig for ten it's also there for the player to dig for. gold piles surrounded by rock etc 00:41:08 of course, adding miners does not necessarily imply somethig to mine. but I can imagine players thinking there is, and that there's effectively a new minigame in orc 00:41:29 which may be why orc didn't have orc miners to start with 00:41:38 <|amethyst> easy solution: orcs are mining for gneiss 00:41:48 Orc spelunkers 00:42:31 <|amethyst> the gold lying about on the Orc floor is the leavings from mining 00:43:24 <|amethyst> s/leavings/tailings/ 00:45:16 ah, but then you've not read my proposal for Gneiss: God of Minerals 00:45:42 I guess we'd have to remove Gozag 00:46:51 <|amethyst> just make Gozag abilities and shops use rocks instead of gold 00:47:38 <|amethyst> (and allow slings to use gold as ammo) 00:47:59 ooh, fun gold distraction ability; fire it in a sling, monsters go running after it 00:48:21 fire it into lava, they jump into lava 00:49:46 -!- roxton has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:49:57 ??misong gods 00:49:58 I don't have a page labeled misong_gods in my learndb. 00:50:06 <|amethyst> gammafunk: works well on tengu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3KRQSpORW0&t=22s 00:50:07 ??mising gods 00:50:07 mising gods ~ missing gods[1/1]: HIUW 00:50:21 -!- Earlo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:52:44 you culd do Hematitus 00:53:19 ?? 00:53:20 I don't have a page labeled in my learndb. Did you mean: ", ', (, ), /, 6, ;, ?, t, |, ©, ☡, 🌽, 🍕, 🐌. 00:53:55 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 00:54:09 s/cul/could 00:54:26 weird my mobile client is screwing up 00:54:53 what the hell 00:54:55 is that 00:56:02 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%EF%BF%BC 00:58:01 wow, that really messed up 00:58:29 on my PC now. on my phone it was showing up as a blue circle around part of the d 00:58:54 it shows up as [obj] on my PC. weird 00:59:05 !blame3n iphone 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:18 it's a tiny OBJ in a dashed box for me 01:03:35 socks_: huh 01:03:43 didn't know wiktionary had unicode entries 01:03:46 good to know 01:11:49 -!- mong has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:12:03 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-987-g0b0e4e7 (34) 01:18:10 -!- Evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:19:51 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-987-g0b0e4e7 (34) 01:24:46 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:31:57 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 01:33:06 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:40:54 -!- eb has quit [] 01:41:46 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 43.0.2/20151221130713]] 01:42:19 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:42:26 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:54:40 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-987-g0b0e4e7 01:57:18 -!- simples has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:02:57 -!- roxton has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:04:20 -!- rax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:04:30 -!- Henzell has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:13:13 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:15:08 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 02:15:41 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:17:07 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:34:38 is cao down??? 02:34:43 oops, too many ? 02:34:50 35 minutes, 57 seconds since last activity (cao) 02:35:48 !tell |amethyst 35 minutes, 57 seconds since last activity (cao) 02:35:48 amalloy: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 02:39:37 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 02:53:28 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-987-g0b0e4e7 02:58:54 -!- namad7 has quit [] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:13 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:15:42 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:20:05 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:21:08 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:21:30 -!- molotove1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:22:52 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-987-g0b0e4e7 (34) 03:23:52 -!- bleaky has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:29:31 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:30:26 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 03:33:02 -!- Mekanik has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 03:35:15 -!- roxton has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:36:56 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:40:07 -!- Blazinghand_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:40:50 !leard add amalloy_todo draconian HP looks rotted while gaining a colour 03:40:55 !learn add amalloy_todo draconian HP looks rotted while gaining a colour 03:40:56 amalloy todo[5/5]: draconian HP looks rotted while gaining a colour 03:42:12 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:46:15 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:48:08 -!- GauHelldragon2 is now known as GauHelldragon 03:50:25 -!- Reverie has joined ##crawl-dev 03:55:51 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 03:59:28 i just ran into a wolf spider on D:4, in an area i've cleared already. that can't be anything but the OOD spawn timer, right? i spent quite a long time on that floor grinding through the gnoll castle 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:10 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:06:14 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 04:06:38 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 04:14:56 -!- roxton has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:16:32 -!- Tpain is now known as zhaorenw 04:27:37 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:27:48 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:28:03 -!- Sage1234 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 04:37:16 -!- edsrzf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:37:36 -!- Evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:42:40 -!- zhaorenw has quit [Read error: No route to host] 04:43:18 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:44:55 -!- toastedzergling has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:48:05 -!- Tpain has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:56:59 in wizmode can i specify or check what demonspawn mutations i'll be getting? i want to watch a demonspawn gain a level of a +HP mutation 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:02:16 -!- Evablue has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:07:14 -!- h0wl3vvd has joined ##crawl-dev 05:07:16 hello 05:07:28 developers of crawl get any money from it ? from donations or something ? 05:08:22 the crawl devteam does not accept donations, or get paid for developing it 05:08:24 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 05:08:36 i think some of the folks who run public servers accept donations to cover server costs 05:11:18 i see kk 05:11:30 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 05:13:03 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:17:58 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:26:12 03amalloy02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/206 * 0.18-a0-988-ge7be584: Make sure vault-produced escape hatches aren't erased 10(6 hours ago, 3 files, 88+ 79-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e7be58412657 05:26:29 -!- pikaro has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 05:26:41 -!- h0wl3vvd has left ##crawl-dev 05:26:42 -!- pikaro_ is now known as pikaro 05:26:57 -!- roxton has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:31:07 03amalloy02 07* 0.18-a0-988-gb7d270e: Don't show Dr HP as if it were rotted while gaining XL 7 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 44+ 32-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b7d270e696fb 05:38:11 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:41:21 03amalloy02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/206 * 0.18-a0-989-ge34a803: Make sure vault-produced escape hatches aren't erased 10(7 hours ago, 3 files, 88+ 79-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e34a8034242b 05:45:57 -!- roxton has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:53:33 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 05:58:49 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:59:35 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:01:39 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:02:29 -!- Evablue has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:09:13 -!- Evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:09:27 !learn del amalloy_todo[$ 06:09:27 Deleted amalloy todo[5/5]: draconian HP looks rotted while gaining a colour 06:26:27 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest29029 06:34:38 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:37:08 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:37:11 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:40:47 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:47:17 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 06:50:34 @??death yak 06:50:34 death yak (08Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 62-89 | AC/EV: 9/5 | Dam: 30 | Res: 06magic(100) | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 873 | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 06:50:36 @??hydra 06:50:36 hydra (09D) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 13 | HP: 60-83 | AC/EV: 0/5 | Dam: 18 per head | amphibious, cold-blooded, regen | Res: 06magic(60), 03poison, 12drown | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 976 | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 06:58:56 -!- Evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:59:38 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:07:54 -!- justcameheretoas has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:19:02 -!- beogh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:32:01 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 07:32:50 -!- roxton has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:39:55 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:43:16 Crawl doesn't force a black terminal background, does it? 07:44:46 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:47:52 -!- fazisi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:52:40 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 07:52:47 -!- mauris has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:53:53 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:03:45 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 08:06:27 -!- DDFi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:10:41 -!- loopi has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- \o/] 08:15:30 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:18:50 -!- rax has joined ##crawl-dev 08:25:04 -!- Kiel97 has quit [Client Quit] 08:35:52 No luck with the terminal background thing 08:37:00 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:39:08 I'm done quite a few searches and haven't come up with anything close enough to solve this silly little thing :p 08:39:39 It looks like Crawl just prints it's own background rather than leaving it to the terminal 08:41:54 Nethack doesn't tamper with the background, and lets me do neat things like this setup: http://i.imgur.com/biKsLUg.jpg 08:42:58 Whereas this is Crawl using the same settings: http://i.imgur.com/R7jbC1P.png 08:43:57 -!- sysice has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:44:02 rax, would you happen to know anything that might help me? 08:45:50 -!- Kolbur1 is now known as Kolbur 09:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:03:53 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:05:39 -!- Vall has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [SeaMonkey 2.28/20150907235313]] 09:09:12 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 09:16:37 -!- Guest29029 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:16:38 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:20:30 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:21:57 Reverie: I don't know, but I suspect your options are either "change the thing Crawl thinks of as black background" or "add transparency to your terminal and put an image behind it," since iirc Crawl specifies foreground and background colors 09:21:58 rax: You have 37 messages. Use !messages to read them. 09:22:10 hahahahahahahaha oh Sequell you try every time and it never works <3 09:22:46 Is there a way to ask Crawl not to specify a background colour? 09:22:51 I suspect the answer is no 09:22:58 But I can put this to rest if not 09:26:51 -!- nihilith has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:30:07 <|amethyst> crawl does not 09:30:07 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 09:30:14 <|amethyst> but it may be possible to do in the code 09:30:30 <|amethyst> plain curses does not support default foreground/background 09:30:44 <|amethyst> but ncurses (which we uses) does 09:31:35 <|amethyst> oh 09:31:48 <|amethyst> actually, it looks like ncurses only barely supports that 09:32:08 <|amethyst> hm 09:32:14 <|amethyst> yeah, it's probably enough 09:32:21 <|amethyst> in setup_colour_pairs 09:33:03 <|amethyst> you'd need to 1. at the beginning, do use_default_colours() 09:33:09 I did a little source diving myself, but I'm a terrible coder 09:33:13 Is this a simple hack? 09:33:52 <|amethyst> 2. inside the inner loop, when j is 0, actually pass -1 instead of 0 to init_pair() 09:34:02 <|amethyst> err 09:34:05 <|amethyst> when i is 0 rather 09:34:38 <|amethyst> likewise that last init_pair call 09:34:59 <|amethyst> the problem is, if someone takes your version and tries to play on a black-on-white terminal 09:35:01 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:35:03 <|amethyst> they won't be able to see white 09:35:10 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 09:35:15 Hence the 'hack' bit 09:35:18 -!- h0wl3vvd has joined ##crawl-dev 09:35:20 hello 09:35:21 <|amethyst> but it should work if your background is just dark 09:35:22 i have thing for crawl developers - Crawl dont support Conkeror browser. 09:35:56 <|amethyst> does Conkeror do websockets? 09:36:07 By Conkeror I suppose you mean Konqueror? 09:37:50 Reverie: no, i mean Conkeror not Konqueror 09:38:13 ooh, I've never heard of this 09:38:38 Reverie: sure so go to read about it if u curious about 09:38:41 very nice browser 09:39:21 I'll stick to homely Safari, but thanks for the recommendation ;-) 09:40:26 -!- orost has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:40:38 Reverie: I dont tell you to change browser 09:40:43 but ok :) 09:40:44 hmmm 09:40:53 browser version of crawl lagging on me 09:40:53 ;c 09:41:13 and i cant play normal version cuz my pc dont handle compilation 09:41:13 too bad i cant play then 09:41:13 CAO is having a bad day, I think 09:41:17 <|amethyst> I can't get conkeror.org to load 09:41:19 i dont talk about CAO 09:41:21 i have low FPS 09:41:26 my processor dont handle that 09:41:51 What is your processor spec? 09:41:59 1.6GHZ 1core 09:42:07 its not much 09:42:15 its doesnt handle browser games well 09:42:28 Sounds like a netbook proc from like five years ago 09:42:35 its laptop 09:42:37 Is it an Atom? 09:42:38 Acer Aspire 09:42:42 h0wl3vvd: can you play console? 09:42:47 dpeg: yes 09:42:53 but anyway i cant 09:42:54 play console :) 09:42:57 cuz my pc 09:43:00 dont handle compilation 09:43:04 i cant get version for my pc 09:43:10 <|amethyst> what OS do you use? 09:43:10 ah 09:43:12 cuz i dont have crawl in my package repository 09:43:25 |amethyst: Parabola 09:43:31 i found some crawl-git on AUR 09:43:37 but makepkg spotted an error 09:43:49 What stops you from downloading the source from the main site and building it yourself? 09:43:53 propably package broken 09:44:00 h0wl3vvd: you have git? 09:44:05 Reverie: my processor get overheating and kernel restart my pc 09:44:12 That sucks 09:44:13 cuz processor go too hot 09:44:15 yeah 09:44:21 You might want to get your fan checked 09:44:30 Reverie: what ? 09:44:31 dpeg: yes ofc 09:44:43 It could be that the coolant paste dried too 09:44:48 but anyway, for now ill play just nethack 09:44:51 ill back to crawl 09:44:54 when ill buy better pc 09:45:00 h0wl3vvd: this is not an option!!! 09:45:07 dpeg: hm ? 09:45:09 h0wl3vvd: can you ssh to cdo etc.? 09:45:16 dpeg: yes 09:45:37 All those years I've wasted on Nethack... I'll never get them back, and I'm sorry forevermore. 09:45:41 i have intel Dual core 2x 2.35GHZ on eye 09:45:47 I've ascended once in nethack 09:45:49 so on this machine crawl propably will works good 09:45:50 and recently :-) 09:45:57 :) 09:46:00 This game is like a one-trick pony though 09:46:06 Ascend once and you can do it again 09:46:11 <|amethyst> you could try extracting the binaries from https://crawl.develz.org/debian/pool/0.17/c/crawl/crawl_0.17.1-1_i386.deb 09:46:19 hmmm yeah propably i can 09:46:20 thanks |amethyst 09:46:34 dpeg: hmmm tell me command to that ssh and password 09:46:35 <|amethyst> (I guess you'd also need https://crawl.develz.org/debian/pool/0.17/c/crawl/crawl-common_0.17.1-1_all.deb) 09:46:35 ill try 09:46:50 dpeg: cuz last time i was trying im get bad password allways 09:47:34 <|amethyst> h0wl3vvd: crawl.develz.org doesn't support passwords, only ssh keys 09:47:42 hmmm 09:47:50 <|amethyst> key is here http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key 09:48:04 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 09:48:05 what mean CAO 09:48:06 anyway ? 09:48:16 <|amethyst> then ssh -C -i /path/to/cao_key -l crawl crawl.develz.org 09:48:22 <|amethyst> CAO = crawl.akrasiac.org 09:48:31 where is that server ? 09:48:32 <|amethyst> the servers all (mostly?) use the same ssh keys 09:48:38 im search something in centre of europe 09:48:41 <|amethyst> CAO is in Arizona 09:48:46 <|amethyst> in Europe you have 09:48:58 h0wl3vvd: these days I use ssh to cszo 09:49:09 <|amethyst> crawl.develz.org, crawl.underhound.eu, crawl.xtahua.com 09:49:13 <|amethyst> http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/howto 09:49:34 | i need another permission for that cao_key 09:49:36 <|amethyst> CDO and CUE are both in Germany, CXC is in France 09:49:38 I never play locally anymore, because ssh console works so well 09:50:09 |amethyst: what permission cao_key needs ? 09:50:21 <|amethyst> h0wl3vvd: oh, chmod 600 cao_key 09:50:23 -!- CcS has quit [] 09:50:28 alright 09:50:28 <|amethyst> I forgot, ssh is very picky about that 09:50:35 <|amethyst> you might also have to put it in your ~/.ssh/ 09:50:44 <|amethyst> because IIRC it also cares about permissions on the directory 09:51:10 these servers on ssh are that same what on Websocket ? 09:51:15 someone can watch my play on site 09:51:16 ? 09:51:17 <|amethyst> yes 09:51:25 wow nice 09:51:25 <|amethyst> except CDO doesn't have webtiles 09:51:41 <|amethyst> but on the others they can watch you with either webtiles or console 09:51:45 <|amethyst> s/console/ssh/ 09:52:03 hm 09:52:09 <|amethyst> in fact, you can play on the laptop and watch yourself with a browser on another computer 09:52:11 what is diffrence betwen Crawl and Ancient 09:52:11 ? 09:52:21 <|amethyst> ancient is Crawl from 10 years ago 09:52:28 kk 09:52:39 hmm 09:52:45 im logged in by ssh -C -i /path/to/cao_key -l crawl crawl.develz.org 09:52:49 i can watch myself on site ? 09:53:03 <|amethyst> h0wl3vvd: crawl.develz.org doesn't have webtiles, so not there 09:53:28 <|amethyst> h0wl3vvd: but you can do the same ssh with -l terminal crawl.underground.eu 09:53:29 so i need another server ? 09:53:48 only if you want so see yourself in tiles 09:54:00 okay 09:54:01 <|amethyst> ??cue 09:54:01 cue[1/4]: European Crawl server, located in Germany. http://underhound.eu:8080/ or underhound.eu, port 22, username: terminal, key: http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key.ppk See {putty} for Windows users. Runs 0.10-0.17 and trunk (DCSS, Zot, Sprint, Tut) 09:54:46 ??cue2 09:54:46 cue2 ~ cue[1/4]: European Crawl server, located in Germany. http://underhound.eu:8080/ or underhound.eu, port 22, username: terminal, key: http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key.ppk See {putty} for Windows users. Runs 0.10-0.17 and trunk (DCSS, Zot, Sprint, Tut) 09:54:49 ??cue[2 09:54:49 cue[2/4]: Hosted and maintained by TZer0 09:54:59 hmmm 09:56:08 $ ssh -C -i /home/l1b3r/Pobrane/cao_key -l crawl crawl.underground.eu 09:56:13 its not work well 09:56:16 ofc im using that 09:56:17 ppk key 09:56:37 <|amethyst> not the .ppk key, that's for putty 09:56:42 mhm 09:56:44 <|amethyst> this one http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key 09:56:53 anyway 09:56:56 its want password 09:57:26 <|amethyst> hm, well CUE does support passwords, so you can use the password terminal 09:57:33 <|amethyst> but it's weird that they key isn't working 09:57:51 ssh: connect to host crawl.underground.eu port 22: Connection refused 09:58:10 CSZO has this criminally long password, it as if someone wanted an addiction barrier 09:58:13 <|amethyst> oh, oops 09:58:29 <|amethyst> sorry, just underhound.eu 09:58:40 <|amethyst> no crawl. and "h" not "gr" 09:58:49 hmmm 09:58:51 still doesnt working 09:58:52 <|amethyst> my typos :) 09:59:15 <|amethyst> here is the exact command from the script I use: ssh -C -i ~/.ssh/cao_key -l terminal underhound.eu 09:59:31 <|amethyst> oh, -l terminal too 09:59:47 <|amethyst> -l is the login name, and CUE uses 'terminal' rather than 'crawl' for that 09:59:48 okay 09:59:50 now its fiine 09:59:52 :)) 10:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00:52 diffrence between Trunk and 0.17 10:00:53 ? 10:01:13 <|amethyst> Trunk is the current development version 10:01:20 k 10:01:30 <|amethyst> ??changelog 10:01:31 changelog[1/3]: http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/docs/changelog.txt - often incomplete and/or out of date, see {changelog[3]} for an exhaustive list of changes. 10:01:38 <|amethyst> ??changelog[3] 10:01:38 mm 10:01:38 changelog[3/3]: Current trunk: http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=log CDO's trunk: http://crawl.develz.org/trunk/changes.txt 10:01:38 im on that server 10:01:43 but im dont see myself here http://crawl.develz.org/watch.htm 10:01:43 ? 10:02:08 <|amethyst> hm 10:02:19 <|amethyst> who maintains that page? 10:02:28 idk 10:02:31 <|amethyst> it seems to not have underhound.eu listed 10:02:54 <|amethyst> !tell gammafunk not sure who to mention this to, but cdo/watch.htm doesn't seem to list CUE grames 10:02:55 |amethyst: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 10:03:01 <|amethyst> !tell gammafunk or games either! 10:03:01 |amethyst: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 10:03:20 hmmm 10:03:25 underhound not listed ? 10:03:26 so what is listed 10:03:32 <|amethyst> h0wl3vvd: what's your username? 10:03:36 Orber 10:03:38 Orberx 10:03:55 <|amethyst> I am watching you now on underhound.eu:8080 10:03:59 hmmm 10:04:04 yeah on ssh 10:04:07 but i mean on site 10:04:21 <|amethyst> I mean in webtiles 10:04:27 hmm 10:04:32 where u watching this 10:04:33 give me a link 10:05:08 <|amethyst> http://underhound.eu:8080/ then click on Orberx 10:05:21 <|amethyst> you won't be able to watch on the laptop, since you couldn't play webtiles there 10:05:45 mhm 10:05:48 nah 10:05:50 im able to watch 10:06:01 ;p 10:06:03 <|amethyst> oh, I guess the problem is just keyboard stuff then 10:06:12 <|amethyst> which I suppose makes sense with conkeror 10:06:21 yes its keyboard problem 10:06:24 <|amethyst> since the browser itself uses a lot more keybindings than most 10:06:29 wait ill show you 10:06:36 But why my game is not listed on main website ? 10:06:44 <|amethyst> !tell gammafunk also CAO 10:06:44 |amethyst: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 10:06:44 crawl.develz.org/watch 10:06:44 why ? 10:06:57 <|amethyst> h0wl3vvd: because that page for some reason is missing two of the servers 10:07:18 which ones ? 10:07:30 <|amethyst> underhound.eu and crawl.akrasiac.org it appears 10:07:39 kk 10:07:42 <|amethyst> (and crawl.develz.org, but that makes sense because CDO doesn't have webtiles) 10:08:14 <|amethyst> well, more than two I guess 10:08:22 <|amethyst> it also doesn't have the Japanese and Korean servers 10:08:23 Note to self: CDO best server, can play unhindered and unwatched by tilespeople 10:08:36 <|amethyst> but those are missing lots of stuff, including ssh 10:08:39 |amethyst: there is a Japanese server? 10:08:42 <|amethyst> ??lld 10:08:42 lld[1/2]: Located in Japan. http://lazy-life.ddo.jp:8080/#lobby - Admin is https://twitter.com/dplusplus/ 10:08:45 -!- serq has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:08:53 |amethyst: they took part in the tournament? 10:09:00 <|amethyst> !lg * t lld 10:09:01 1485. Tokky the Skirmisher (L2 MuFi), blasted by Terence (wand of frost) on D:2 on 2015-11-22 15:35:35, with 20 points after 871 turns and 0:03:06. 10:09:05 <|amethyst> !lg * t lld 1 10:09:09 1/1485. anon the Severer (L14 MiFi of Qazlal), mangled by a lorocyproca on Abyss:1 on 2015-11-06 21:20:41, with 50675 points after 14869 turns and 0:45:52. 10:09:10 |amethyst: Awesome! Did they know in Asia? :) 10:09:19 <|amethyst> !lg * t lld s=name 10:09:21 1485 games for * (t lld): 190x Sekko, 155x damdam, 144x EnterQ, 113x takos, 70x cosmonaut, 63x AFjjw, 62x IBCA, 53x smocul, 52x liarnose, 50x tls9540, 49x hortensia, 44x postech, 40x anon, 36x hanon12, 28x Stoats, 20x poyupoyu, 20x chin1995, 20x mizuno, 18x nem, 18x anch0vy, 17x spbl, 16x dis, 14x Gaidara1, 14x irum, 13x dtj02067, 13x Tusk, 13x radinms, 12x spellblade, 11x piyake, 9x naga, 9x abpc... 10:09:28 <|amethyst> !lg * t lld x=cdist(name) 10:09:30 1485 games for * (t lld): cdist(name)=66 10:09:35 <|amethyst> apparently 66 people knew 10:09:39 <|amethyst> !lg * t cwz x=cdist(name) 10:09:41 3834 games for * (t cwz): cdist(name)=125 10:09:50 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:09:52 so we expect exponential groth in East Asia... oh the market shares!!! 10:09:54 <|amethyst> about half as many as the Korean server 10:09:57 growth even 10:10:28 |amethyst: do you know if akrasiac.org usage statistics count these games? 10:10:40 <|amethyst> usage statistics? 10:10:50 |amethyst: http://tinypic.com/r/qzewdh/9 look it is my problem, look at bottom "return is undefined" so i cant choose role/class etc cuz browser allways telling me that these keys are undefined and thats true, i dont have bindings for they in my browser but they should interact with that game 10:11:50 <|amethyst> h0wl3vvd: that's worth filing a bug report about 10:11:52 <|amethyst> it might be a simple fix? 10:11:56 <|amethyst> ??mantis 10:11:57 mantis[1/2]: To report bugs or submit new content like vaults, patches or tiles, go to: http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/main_page.php 10:12:01 (Side remark: is there any way to go from https://crawl.develz.org with its cool screen to the old homepage with the many links?) 10:12:29 <|amethyst> dpeg: I wanted to at least have a link 10:12:42 hmmm 10:12:46 <|amethyst> dpeg: the response was along the lines of "but we want to get rid of /wordpress eventually" 10:12:59 <|amethyst> dpeg: so I just have http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/ bookmarked 10:13:10 |amethyst: crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/per-day.html 10:13:26 |amethyst: I am definitely against getting rid of that, but food now 10:13:28 <|amethyst> dpeg: you could clock on "all news..." then click on "Welcome" in the upper right 10:13:33 <|amethyst> click 10:13:45 idk 10:13:51 how to send that bug report etc 10:13:55 |amethyst: can u do it for me ? 10:14:00 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 10:14:11 <|amethyst> h0wl3vvd: can you give me a copy of that image that isn't on tinypic ? 10:14:25 <|amethyst> h0wl3vvd: I try to save it and it pops up a full-page flash plugin 10:14:34 <|amethyst> h0wl3vvd: imgur.com would work 10:14:48 imgur block me 10:15:12 <|amethyst> h0wl3vvd: ah, never mind, I got it 10:15:19 |amethyst: "wget http://i65.tinypic.com/qzewdh.jpg" 10:15:23 should work 10:15:33 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:15:41 |amethyst: does that link count all games from all known servers? 10:15:58 |amethyst: i have that situations with other keys instead of return too 10:16:06 <|amethyst> dpeg: I was just checking: yes, lld should be counted there 10:16:35 <|amethyst> though nothing has counted for a few hours 10:17:51 <|amethyst> just restarted scoring, it may take a few hours to get running again 10:20:55 -!- h0wl3vvd has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:22:02 webtiles keybindings don't work in Conkeror 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10221 by neil 10:22:07 <|amethyst> Reverie: I tried what I suggested with setup_colour_pairs and it didn't work that well 10:22:19 <|amethyst> Reverie: ohh 10:22:22 <|amethyst> Reverie: forgot something 10:22:46