00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01:17 heh 00:01:32 i like how the ranged reform one there explicitly mentions 'sky weapons' 00:02:56 ??sky weapons 00:02:56 sky weapons[1/18]: A - +2,+1 flail (protect) 00:02:58 I wonder how far along Lasty is with it 00:04:11 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:04:57 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 00:06:50 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-921-g28655ce (34) 00:07:21 does slaying work on constriction? 00:08:05 -!- beogh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:08:39 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:11:07 -!- HolyRage has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:11:12 -!- HolyRage_ is now known as HolyRage 00:11:47 -!- VoidFox has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:12:16 -!- vible has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:12:27 -!- voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:13:07 -!- voker57 has quit [Changing host] 00:16:10 .elrank 00:16:12 3072 games for * (br=lair 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Liminals have inate faith, no wrath immunity and get a randm god at lvl 5. Patches are in his tavern topic. 05:44:00 Marbit: OK, I'll let ontoclams know. 05:45:30 Also, if anyone wants to discuss the idea of Liminals I'll be here. 06:00:00 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:12 -!- zhaorenw has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:08:35 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:09:47 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:18:27 -!- Foamed_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:21:18 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 06:21:55 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:22:18 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:22:57 -!- Marbit has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:29:09 -!- Evablue has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:32:57 josefromcouch (L27 KoGl) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 194 failed. (Dis:7) 06:34:11 -!- amalloy_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:34:29 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:34:36 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 06:37:17 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 06:38:59 -!- amalloy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:39:35 -!- kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:42:53 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:45:44 -!- onmyo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:56:05 -!- Guest69851 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:03:28 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:06:08 Android tiles version bug fix(?) suggestion. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10207 by asb3770 07:07:41 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:08:45 -!- amalloy_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:09:01 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 07:16:20 -!- kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:16:58 -!- Zigma has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 07:18:06 -!- 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http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/cluie/crash-cluie-20151227-163414.txt 11:36:26 -!- pintc has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:49:14 -!- thetao has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:49:56 -!- HolyRage has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:49:57 -!- HolyRage_ is now known as HolyRage 11:53:05 that's not a cluie 11:53:49 probably has something to do with ball lightning 11:54:10 -!- minmay has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:54:10 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:54:24 -!- arianwen has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:56:26 -!- Sovek has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:07:15 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:07:29 mon-death.cc: In function ‘void mons_felid_revive(monster*)’: 12:07:30 mon-death.cc:3285:15: warning: unused variable ‘hd’ [-Wunused-variable] 12:08:50 -!- ussdefiant_Lappy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:08:54 -!- Floodkiller has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:10:01 eh, who needs hd 12:10:14 -!- Hallo has quit [Client Quit] 12:10:17 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-921-g28655ce (34) 12:12:22 -!- Dirtsage has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:12:49 yeah looks like he just forgot to remove that line 12:13:00 yep. just noting it 12:15:31 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:16:41 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:18:11 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:24:15 03gammafunk02 07* 0.18-a0-922-gae37826: Remove an unused variable (geekosaur) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ae37826d1b7e 12:27:14 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:33:12 hmm, i had a submerging removal branch in progress but if swamp worms are keeping it i guess i can't actually clean up all the related code even if trapdoor spiders were to have an accident at some point soon 12:33:56 (which isn't so terrible because having looked at it, cleaning submerging code up doesn't look like a fun job at all!) 12:34:55 maybe it could be simplified significantly if lost souls also stopped submerging, since then it'd just be used only for swamp worms and nothing would ever resubmerge 12:36:47 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:37:00 why do lost souls submerge anyway 12:37:20 who knows 12:37:54 i actually had no idea they were submerging until i saw it in the code, since the messaging says they "flicker out of existence" 12:38:01 yes 12:38:05 so i thought they just died if they found nothing to work on 12:38:13 i thought they teleported 12:39:45 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 12:40:22 oh apparently they do? if there's no other monsters nearby they teleport near to something else on the level that they could maybe revive, and also submerge 12:40:41 and if they don't find anything to teleport to then they die instead (with an identical message to the teleporting case) 12:41:47 then uh 12:41:54 maybe jsut remove the "submerge" step there 12:42:15 since i can't imagine it really mattering very often 12:42:32 -!- onmyo is now known as dark_star 12:44:19 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:46:17 -!- Dixlet has quit [Quit: lates] 12:50:58 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest96777 12:54:27 ohh, that's how the submerging came in 12:54:42 I was looking at that earlier (lost soul submerging) but couldn't figure out what was going on there 12:57:59 -!- Guest96777 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:46 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 13:03:13 I don't really get the design of lost soul the monster; it seems to me that maybe some kind of actual undead monster with a "heal undead" ability would be a better design 13:03:51 perhaps if it came with a band to make that relevant reasonably often 13:03:59 @??deep_elf_death_mage 13:03:59 deep elf death mage (00e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 57-78 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 12 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(120) | Vul: 08holy | XP: 1116 | Sp: b.draining (3d22), vampiric draining, call lost soul, twisted resurrection | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 13:04:21 ??lost_soul 13:04:21 lost soul[1/2]: A crypt monster which tries to stay away from you. If a non-zombie undead dies in its LOS, the lost soul will die instead (fully healing the undead). If a living creature dies, it will become a undead (unrevivable) version of that creature. If other enemies are around, will sometimes ignore the death of low HD creatures. 13:04:50 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.18-a0-923-gd6673ac: Adjust unobtainable axe placement in a bailey 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 11+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d6673ac7a5f8 13:04:50 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.18-a0-924-g43b3e38: Don't let Gozag gold distraction work on out-of-LOS monsters 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/43b3e38f2a54 13:05:08 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 13:05:12 yeah there's the revive thing, again that's a spell/enchant that could just go on the non-trivial monster itself, rather than making a monster to do it 13:11:50 !lg * recent !boring place=dis:7 kmap!= s=kmap% 13:11:51 188 games for * (recent !boring place=dis:7 kmap!=): 49x dis_st (26.06%), 45x dis_hangedman (23.94%), 33x iron_city_of_dis; dis_grunt (17.55%), 23x iron_city_of_dis; dis_mu (12.23%), 15x iron_city_of_dis; dis_old (7.98%), 6x iron_city_of_dis; dis_wall_1 (3.19%), 6x dis_grunt_layers (3.19%), 4x iron_city_of_dis; dis_wall_2 (2.13%), 3x iron_city_of_dis; dis_wall_8 (1.60%), 2x iron_city_of_dis; dis_w... 13:12:03 gammafunk: reraise??? 13:12:16 ontoclasm: sorry? 13:12:51 The ontoclasm gazes at gammafunk. gammafunk is confused. 13:12:53 reraise is the FF spell that causes you to Not Die once 13:14:23 well, the current spell makes a weird undead copy of the original, but perhaps it could be something more like a complete revival; I think there's some reason why it doesn't do that 13:15:06 maybe it's really just flavor, to make it like death channel 13:15:20 ontoclasm: also you're not allowed to bring up FF unless you're talking about the moon/Lunarians 13:15:23 i thought it didn't do the spectral thing any more 13:15:38 it did in my recent game; it revived and the glyph doesn't change to a z or anything 13:16:06 I think it gets undead resists etc, but no tile/glyph change, which is :( 13:16:12 but I might be wrong about that 13:17:55 -!- cang has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:18:18 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:19:50 -!- HolyRage has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:19:55 -!- HolyRage_ is now known as HolyRage 13:28:01 03gammafunk02 07* 0.18-a0-925-g1c37be1: Don't use permarock in a Tartarus map and reduce its border 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 69+ 70-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1c37be1919ac 13:34:30 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:38:19 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest40422 13:41:36 Grunt: Hell idea: if you have a hell rune but didn't kill the corresponding hell lord, in any hell there's a possible hell effect that convokes in a still-alive and very pissed off hell lord + its band 13:42:22 call it...the....Hell..Hokey-Pokey 13:42:50 -!- Guest40422 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:43:30 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:47:23 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:47:25 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:49:12 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 13:53:28 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:57:58 re lost souls: sometimes if I've dropped a fulm prism my next action will be to target them with a conjuration so I know my prism will do its job 13:59:34 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01:49 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:03:48 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:06:36 -!- fruitloops7 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:06:45 gammafunk: I think you were miscommunicating with ontoclasm 14:06:52 oh? 14:06:57 that is possible! 14:06:58 lost souls no longer create spectral monsters, which is what he was saying 14:07:15 they now create "ghostly" monsters, which is just sticking an ench on top of the existing monster 14:07:19 which is what you were saying 14:07:41 basically you were both right 14:07:41 -!- clouded_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:07:50 well, he brought up spectrals 14:08:25 I didn't talk about whether it was spectral, just that it does a revive 14:08:43 but yeah the issue I have with it is putting the effect on a seperate, trivial monster 14:09:22 which said monster usually just does nothing by itself unless it happens to randomly be near a fight; in most instances where it is, you could have a non-trivial monster with a similar kind of effect 14:09:45 and then you wouldn't need weird hijinks to make the lost soul disappear/submerge etc 14:09:45 a trivial monster... 14:10:03 I think the submerging is probably un-needed regardless. Possibly the teleporting. Not sure. 14:10:06 the lost soul? it does nothing but wait to unleash that effect 14:10:11 Yes, of course. 14:10:15 That's its whole point. 14:10:21 well, what I'm saying is 14:10:22 I don't really understand what's wrong with that? 14:10:30 put this effect on a monster which can do more than this effect 14:10:54 Why? 14:10:56 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:11:05 why not? 14:11:17 because then you don't have a silly thing that sits and does nothing most of the time 14:11:19 Why make a monster more complex, when a simple monster will do the job? 14:11:41 it would much simpler to have a relevant monster (of which we have several candidates) 14:11:43 Lost souls do their thing very regularly, in my experience. 14:11:45 that had this effect 14:11:52 I didn't say they don't trigger 14:12:24 There's no good justification for this effect (which might be just fine as an effect), to exist on a monster that otherwise does nothing 14:12:40 e.g. it's a spell that de death mages could just directly cast 14:12:45 I don't see any reason why there shouldn't be a monster that just does one effect. 14:12:49 Tormenters exist. Hellions exist. 14:12:50 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 14:12:59 tormentors and hellions aren't that 14:13:09 They technically have a melee attack, I suppose. 14:13:16 -!- cojito has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:13:35 they have hp and attacks, yes, and don't have weird "boom I just disappeared since you found me with noone else nearby" 14:14:41 -!- cojitoo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:15:18 gammafunk: iirc that permarock border was deliberate, to stop you from being able to shatter/lrd outside the map and then dig safely all the way around to the rune 14:15:24 -!- Ketziah has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:15:45 MarvinPA: hrm, but isn't this an issue with the other maps? 14:15:52 which was also a fun tech in tomb, iirc at the same time as ashenzari let you attack things through walls while scrying? might have been a separate discovery though, not sure 14:15:55 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:16:22 not sure! i just remember that one in particular being changed, since it looks like the rune is directly next to the map border 14:16:51 could just have permarock around the rune room 14:17:21 but it looks like the stone buffer is big enough anyway now, it goes all the way up to the map edge by the rune so you can't just dig through it 14:18:01 Yeah, I guess I see what you mean in general 14:18:06 you shatter/lrd an opening 14:18:12 and just normal dig around the border 14:18:17 shatter/lrd when you're were you like 14:18:21 *where 14:18:24 yeah 14:18:24 to pick up the rune 14:18:40 I guess we could just permarock around the stone 14:18:44 which at least wouldn't be visible 14:18:51 by default anyhow 14:23:06 it looks like that's what tomb does 14:23:58 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 14:23:59 The build was broken. (master - 1c37be1 #4316 : gammafunk): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/98998320 14:23:59 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 14:24:12 hmm, is set_border_fill_type meant to do something like that automatically? 14:24:17 i don't really know how/if it works 14:24:41 i imagine it just does the outer border of the level 14:25:32 uh oh 14:25:39 it doesn't look like it does even that 14:25:45 ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 713: Portal enter_hell[63] didn't get generated. 14:25:58 from that travis build 14:26:02 weird how it's only that one 14:28:07 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:28:10 gammafunk: the Hell analogue to panpursuit 14:28:21 imo have them show up on orbrun too <.< 14:28:41 seems from the code it just turns all rock walls into the chosen type 14:29:19 it doesn't look like it does that, at least when i generated some wizlabs that use it 14:29:30 that could be because i used &L rather than whatever the other thing is though 14:29:56 &P 14:30:02 yeah you definitely need &P 14:30:11 i think 14:30:25 in general use &P if you're testing an encompass vault or primary vault 14:30:27 ah yeah, it works then it seems 14:33:17 Grunt: that's why I tried to give it a name like Hell Hokeypokey 14:33:23 but it doesn't have the same ring to it.. 14:33:30 speaking of rings 14:33:32 !crush Grunt 14:33:33 gammafunk beats Grunt like a drum!!! 14:33:37 !crush Grunt 14:33:37 gammafunk crushes Grunt like a grape!!!! 14:33:40 !crush gammafunk 14:33:41 Grunt flattens gammafunk like a pancake!!!!! 14:33:43 ok those aren't rings 14:33:49 !gong 14:33:50 GONNNNG! 14:33:53 maybe I should add !carve 14:33:56 <.< 14:36:01 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest3748 14:36:18 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:40:29 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 14:42:58 maybe I should land the bits of this branch that don't involve adding vampire lords 14:43:10 that would require splitting one of these commits in two 14:45:24 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:45:36 You carve the commit like a ham!!! 14:48:20 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.18-a0-926-g67d2943: Use set_border_fill_type to neaten up some vaults 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 79+ 140-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/67d2943a3704 14:49:19 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:51:41 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 14:52:51 03Grunt02 07* 0.18-a0-927-g0464229: Place death knights earlier; remove Haunt from them. 10(2 days ago, 3 files, 7+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0464229dc3bf 14:52:51 03Grunt02 07* 0.18-a0-928-g48a4471: Remove the Haunt set from ancient champions. 10(2 days ago, 2 files, 1+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/48a4471db782 14:52:51 03Grunt02 07* 0.18-a0-929-g4ffa06b: Place plain vampires earlier in D and adjust their placements elsewhere. 10(7 minutes ago, 2 files, 13+ 18-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4ffa06b236ed 14:53:27 !haunt Grunt 14:53:28 gammafunk gestures at Grunt while chanting. Insubstantial figures form in the air. The freezing wraith hits Grunt! x3 The phantasmal warrior hits Grunt! x5 14:53:32 !haunt gammafunk 14:53:33 Grunt gestures at gammafunk while chanting. Insubstantial figures form in the air. The freezing wraith hits gammafunk! x3 The phantasmal warrior hits gammafunk! x5 14:53:40 hm 14:53:43 !doomhowl wheals 14:53:45 that command could use improvement 14:53:46 !doom gammafunk 14:53:48 Grunt unleashes a terrible howl, and it begins to echo in gammafunk's mind! The Grunt bites gammafunk!!! x6 14:53:48 wut 14:54:10 rip old howl 14:54:21 now it's spookier 14:54:44 oh 14:54:54 someone suggested that we could replace necromancers in hell knight bands 14:55:17 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 14:56:00 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:56:53 didn't even know those had those 14:56:56 @??necromancer 14:56:56 necromancer (00p) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 29-51 | AC/EV: 1/13 | Dam: 6 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(60) | Vul: 08holy | XP: 615 | Sp: b.cold (3d18), agony, invisibility [04emergency] / b.fire (3d18), agony, invisibility [04emergency] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 14:57:26 replace them with necromancers with dchan 14:57:28 !haunt gammafunk 14:57:29 Grunt points at gammafunk and mumbles some strange words. Insubstantial figures form in the air. The phantasmal warrior hits hits gammafunk! x3 The wraith hits gammafunk! x6 14:57:33 oops 14:57:45 !haunt gammafunk 14:57:46 Grunt points at gammafunk and mumbles some strange words. Insubstantial figures form in the air. The wraith hits gammafunk! x3 The hungry ghost hits gammafunk! x6 14:57:49 much better 14:57:54 !haunt Sequell 14:57:55 Grunt casts a spell at Sequell. Insubstantial figures form in the air. The hungry ghost hits Sequell! x4 The phantasmal warrior hits Sequell! x3 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:08:54 !haunt $channel 15:08:55 gammafunk gestures at ##crawl-dev while chanting. Insubstantial figures form in the air. The wraith hits ##crawl-dev! x4 The freezing wraith hits ##crawl-dev! x5 15:09:03 !haunt $channel 15:09:04 gammafunk casts a spell at ##crawl-dev. Insubstantial figures form in the air. The freezing wraith hits ##crawl-dev! x4 The phantom hits ##crawl-dev! x5 15:09:09 nice, random ghosts 15:09:20 !haunt gammafunk 15:09:21 Grunt casts a spell at gammafunk. Insubstantial figures form in the air. The wraith hits gammafunk! x3 The wraith hits gammafunk! x6 15:09:32 uh oh 15:09:36 they're weighted like Haunt is too 15:09:36 <.< 15:09:53 guess you could improve by never choosing two of the same, but still it's an improvement 15:10:09 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:10:37 hm 15:10:38 !lg * recent ckaux=by_vampiric_draining s=cikiller 15:10:39 308 games for * (recent ckaux=by_vampiric_draining): 121x a player ghost, 114x Josephine, 32x a vampire, 16x a deep elf death mage, 9x a ghostly deep elf death mage, 4x an ironheart preserver, 4x Jory, 3x a vampire mage, 2x a vampire knight, 2x a deep elf high priest, the player character 15:11:01 !lg * recent ckaux=by_vampiric_draining cikiller=the_player_character 15:11:03 1. pisklak the Unseen (L14 SpEn of Okawaru), blasted by a deep elf death mage (vampiric draining) (summoned by a shadow trap (triggered by the player character)) on Elf:1 (nicolae_shop_overgrown_old_shop) on 2015-08-20 11:10:41, with 64039 points after 23127 turns and 4:57:53. 15:11:06 oh 15:11:08 hah 15:11:19 !lg * recent ckaux=by_vampiric_draining s=cikiller x=avg(dam) 15:11:20 308 games for * (recent ckaux=by_vampiric_draining): 121x a player ghost [9.85], 114x Josephine [13.49], 32x a vampire [9.16], 16x a deep elf death mage [15.44], 9x a ghostly deep elf death mage [17.11], 4x an ironheart preserver [11.75], 4x Jory [28.5], 3x a vampire mage [9.33], 2x a vampire knight [25], 2x a deep elf high priest [12.5], the player character [9] 15:11:44 those numbers are kind of underwhelming 15:11:56 well, I guess with vamp drain 15:12:04 there's the factor of the monster getting healed 15:12:09 by 2/3 of that amount 15:12:17 @??JORY 15:12:17 Jory (04V) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 166-191 | AC/EV: 20/12 | Dam: 40, 1505(vampiric) | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(160), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 3961 | Sp: crystal spear (3d37), mesmerise, blink close, vampiric draining [04emergency] | Sz: Medium | Int: .. 15:12:23 no number given 15:12:29 oh I see what you're looking at 15:12:31 I should add those numbers to monster 15:12:43 yeah you have a point there I guess 15:12:48 i assume vampire lords will do at least 10d100 per vampiric draining 15:12:54 42d1 15:12:56 imo 15:13:34 wheals: don't complain, do you ever even survive long enough to get to Crypt? 15:13:37 :3 15:14:03 !lg . crypt 15:14:05 6. wheals the Impregnable (L24 DgWn), slain by an Ice Fiend (summoned by an ancient lich) on Crypt:3 (david_glass_crypt) on 2014-07-06 19:19:41, with 543733 points after 115166 turns and 4:27:19. 15:14:07 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:14:07 !lg gammafunk crypt 15:14:08 1. gammafunk the Eclecticist (L19 VpIE of Makhleb), blasted by Margery (bolt of fire) on Crypt:3 on 2013-01-19 20:59:45, with 240149 points after 81166 turns and 11:59:17. 15:14:14 looks like i get there 6 times as often! 15:14:17 wow I actually died in crypt 15:14:23 amazing 15:14:43 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 15:14:44 !lg gammafunk crypt x=cv 15:14:46 1. [cv=0.12-a] gammafunk the Eclecticist (L19 VpIE of Makhleb), blasted by Margery (bolt of fire) on Crypt:3 on 2013-01-19 20:59:45, with 240149 points after 81166 turns and 11:59:17. 15:14:50 in oldcrypt no less 15:15:15 !lm devteamnp br.enter=crypt !gfspeed !boring s=name / lg:br=crypt o=% 15:15:21 !lg . crypt 1 15:15:22 1/6. wheals the Axe Maniac (L27 HOBe of Trog), drowned on Crypt:5 (cryptofortress_bobbens) on 2012-11-14 12:21:19, with 493928 points after 86452 turns and 4:36:18. 15:15:27 99/1866 milestones for devteamnp (br.enter=crypt !gfspeed !boring): 1/4x felirx [25.00%], 5/24x HangedMan [20.83%], 5/28x wheals [17.86%], 7/53x KiloByte [13.21%], 1/8x Keskitalo [12.50%], 8/69x pointless [11.59%], 9/85x rob [10.59%], 2/21x erisdiscordia [9.52%], 4/67x sorear [5.97%], 1/17x bookofjude [5.88%], 35/620x 78291 [5.65%], 1/18x bh [5.56%], 1/20x gammafunk [5.00%], 4/81x itsmu [4.94%], 7... 15:15:30 ^ my best game until that point 15:15:42 drowned, nice 15:15:54 looks like wheals is a top crypt permanent resident 15:16:06 i see hangedman still has me beat 15:16:07 not sure what hangedman was doing 15:16:08 appropriately 15:16:13 -!- Guest3748 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:16:34 oh look 15:16:37 !lg Grunt br=crypt 15:16:38 1. SGrunt the Hand of Fortune (L24 KoAr of Nemelex Xobeh), slain by an orc warrior (a +0 halberd) (led by Saint Roka) on Crypt:2 on 2014-12-08 01:52:01, with 402047 points after 78495 turns and 4:02:28. 15:16:47 I do not remember this at all 15:16:56 oh you must have entered crypt a lot 15:17:09 KoAr of nem 15:17:12 03Grunt02 07* 0.18-a0-930-g8ee9131: Add vampiric draining damage info to monster. 10(51 seconds ago, 1 file, 14+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8ee9131bdd0e 15:17:35 Grunt is the real monster 15:17:39 !lm devteamnp br.enter=elf !gfspeed !boring s=name / lg:br=elf o=% 15:17:43 %git HEAD^{/the real monster} 15:17:43 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-3536-g164200f: The player is not the real monster 10(12 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/164200f449be 15:17:48 %git HEAD^{/the real monster}^^{/the real monster} 15:17:48 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-2653-gf29606e: The player is not the real monster (Grunt) 10(1 year, 1 month ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f29606e10798 15:17:56 good 15:18:01 151/2022 milestones for devteamnp (br.enter=elf !gfspeed !boring): 2/6x haranp [33.33%], 2/7x mumra [28.57%], 38/155x KiloByte [24.52%], 2/11x evktalo [18.18%], 5/31x HangedMan [16.13%], 1/7x Neil [14.29%], 11/80x dpeg [13.75%], 8/59x sorear [13.56%], 1/8x reaver [12.50%], 6/48x SGrunt [12.50%], 4/37x erisdiscordia [10.81%], 4/40x wheals [10.00%], 1/13x bookofjude [7.69%], 6/79x rob [7.59%], 3/45x... 15:18:04 (Grunt is) 15:18:30 Ashenzari warns you: Grunt is. 15:18:47 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-930-g8ee9131 15:18:51 gammafunk: i wonder if i'm not on the top list for any of branch 15:19:02 !lm devteamnp br.enter=zot !gfspeed !boring s=name / lg:br=zot o=% 15:19:06 hrm, probably for ones you've not been to 15:19:12 168/2012 milestones for devteamnp (br.enter=zot !gfspeed !boring): 1/1x Zaba [100.00%], 3/7x Neil [42.86%], 2/5x haranp [40.00%], 3/9x bookofjude [33.33%], 1/4x mumra [25.00%], 8/35x sorear [22.86%], 12/55x SGrunt [21.82%], 4/19x bh [21.05%], 9/43x dpeg [20.93%], 1/5x evktalo [20.00%], 8/41x KiloByte [19.51%], 10/60x pointless [16.67%], 5/30x wheals [16.67%], 2/14x erisdiscordia [14.29%], 1/7x rea... 15:19:13 to much 15:19:14 i've been to them all! 15:19:22 died in them all except for hells too 15:19:32 poor neil 15:20:16 you probably have a great ranking for bazaars 15:20:33 @??vampire 15:20:34 vampire (05V) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 24-43 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 15, 1505(vampiric) | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(40), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 213 | Sp: vampiric draining (4-22), confuse, invisibility | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 15:20:38 heh 15:20:39 nice 15:20:40 good 15:20:40 @??jory 15:20:40 Jory (04V) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 166-191 | AC/EV: 20/12 | Dam: 40, 1505(vampiric) | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(160), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 3961 | Sp: crystal spear (3d37), mesmerise, blink close, vampiric draining (4-42) [04emergency] | Sz: Medium .. 15:20:45 kinda lame 15:20:49 yeah 15:21:24 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest72275 15:21:37 especially the 3 die rolls means you probably won't get near the top end very often 15:21:56 here's the fun part 15:21:58 this is 15:22:03 the same formula that player vamp draining uses 15:22:11 which is probably why it's so underwhelming on monsters 15:22:37 aha 15:23:10 !motto player monster symmetry 15:23:11 PMS! P-Player! M-Monster! S-Symmetry! Player Monster Symmetry! PLAYER MONSTER SYMMETRY! 15:23:20 er 15:23:30 -!- omnirizon has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:24:31 interesting abbreviation 15:24:40 * geekosaur has been playing gargoyles. player monster symmetry my hard stony yet somehow living arse! 15:25:27 Last one I played was when there were cool and emo 15:25:51 !lg . gr won -log 15:25:52 1. gammafunk, XL27 GrDK, T:139579: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/gammafunk/morgue-gammafunk-20130602-141932.txt 15:26:12 aw, never mind, they had been renamed by that point 15:26:21 !lg * crace=grotesk 15:26:23 177854. steelSky the Cudgeler (L6 GrFi), demolished by an ogre (a +0 giant club) on D:3 on 2015-12-27 20:25:06, with 335 points after 3819 turns and 0:16:52. 15:26:27 nope 15:26:40 guess there's no way to distinguish in Sequell now 15:27:03 !lg * gr race!=gargoyle 15:27:05 467. Maplemancer the Digger (L1 GrEE), quit the game on D:1 on 2015-05-22 23:44:42, with 21 points after 54 turns and 0:01:21. 15:27:11 !lg * gr race!=gargoyle -log 15:27:13 467. Maplemancer, XL1 GrEE, T:54: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Maplemancer/morgue-Maplemancer-20150522-234442.txt 15:27:28 !lg * gr race!=gargoyle x=cv 15:27:29 467. [cv=0.13-a] Maplemancer the Digger (L1 GrEE), quit the game on D:1 on 2015-05-22 23:44:42, with 21 points after 54 turns and 0:01:21. 15:27:36 guess that was the last grotesk 15:27:39 Abil: Self-Petrificatio | | 1 | 5 | 6 | | | | | || 12 15:27:42 at least we had that 15:27:50 critical survival tech 15:27:53 !lm * ktyp= gr race!=gargoyle s=name 15:28:02 @??vampire 15:28:02 vampire (05V) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 24-43 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 15, 1505(vampiric) | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(40), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 213 | Sp: vampiric draining (4-22), confuse, invisibility | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 15:28:07 7 milestones for * (ktyp= gr race!=gargoyle): 7x Flun2 15:28:11 hrm 15:28:16 a living grotesk! ! ! 15:28:21 &dump flun2 15:28:23 http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Flun2/Flun2.txt 15:28:36 rip 15:28:43 was it cszo? 15:28:45 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 15:28:46 The build was fixed. (master - 67d2943 #4317 : Chris Campbell): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/99006514 15:28:46 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 15:29:02 yeah don't know where it went 15:29:14 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:29:25 where those ever experimental? 15:29:43 !lm * gr race!=gargoyle alive 15:29:47 No milestones for * (gr race!=gargoyle alive). 15:30:04 !lm * gr race!=gargoyle 15:30:12 !lg * gr race!=gargoyle 15:30:14 467. Maplemancer the Digger (L1 GrEE), quit the game on D:1 on 2015-05-22 23:44:42, with 21 points after 54 turns and 0:01:21. 15:30:22 1163. [2013-06-03 21:33:57] odiv the Earth Mage (L25 GrMo of The Shining One) killed Khufu on turn 79398. (Crypt:5) 15:31:23 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:32:06 -!- xtwv has quit [Quit: c] 15:32:24 !lm * gr race!=gargoyle x=cv,src,explbr 15:32:34 1163. [2013-06-03 21:33:57] [cv=0.13-a;src=cszo;explbr=] odiv the Earth Mage (L25 GrMo of The Shining One) killed Khufu on turn 79398. (Crypt:5) 15:32:43 -!- lockdown has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:35:32 -!- omnirizon has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:38:26 -!- Dirtsage has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:42:06 thinking about doing this: http://sprunge.us/EQJA 15:42:32 having vampires earlier in D should help us figure out if this makes it an effective spell in monster hands 15:44:28 * geekosaur wonders for a bit at MON_SPELL_WIZARD 15:44:44 seems like something they "just do", not something they cast... 15:45:07 you're probably thinking of AF_VAMPIRIC :b 15:45:12 I see your point though 15:46:18 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:46:44 when the first arg to x_chance_in_y() is negative, I assume it always returns false 15:46:48 !source x_change_in_y 15:46:49 Can't find x_change_in_y. 15:46:52 !source x_chance_in_y 15:46:53 1/2. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/random.cc#l318 15:46:58 fr: crawl cashiers 15:47:09 yep 15:47:26 don't worry, I tested this <.< 15:47:31 -!- Dirtsage has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:47:39 !send grunt_pizzeria gammafunk 15:47:40 Sending gammafunk to grunt_pizzeria. 15:48:09 Grunt? Testing his code?! That's... 15:48:54 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-931-gbcd8e79: Remove {mons_spec,mgen_data}::number. 10(2 hours ago, 14 files, 143+ 139-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bcd8e79dd2ef 15:48:54 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-932-g8ab9362: Simplify the Spectral Orc Hack. 10(70 minutes ago, 3 files, 30+ 32-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8ab936279c4e 15:48:54 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-933-gd292b6f: Have mgen_data::flags use an enum_bitfield. 10(6 minutes ago, 19 files, 72+ 73-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d292b6f8ee97 15:48:54 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-934-g5b78848: Remove an unused variable. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5b78848ead04 15:49:00 here, have some crashes 15:49:47 ckaux=wheals 15:50:48 well, we can revert this if it turns out to be a bad idea I guess 15:51:00 03Grunt02 07* 0.18-a0-935-gfd6d05a: Significantly increase the chances that vampires Vampiric Drain. 10(10 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fd6d05ad8ef0 15:51:37 We can revert it. We have the technology. 15:52:05 !revert gammafunk 15:52:07 03wheals * 0.18-a0-1517-g3dc9463: Revert "gammafunk" 10(in the future, 13 files, 380+ 323-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3dc9463 15:52:11 oh 15:52:41 03Grunt02 07* 0.18-a0-936-gc90f411: Move deep elf mages deeper in D. 10(49 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c90f411c7df3 15:53:44 Grunt... is there really such a thing as *too* terrifyingly lethal 15:54:59 !send wheals a D:1 orb of fire 15:54:59 Sending a D:1 orb of fire to wheals. 15:55:18 !learn add wheals is there really such a thing as *too* terrifyingly lethal 15:55:20 wheals[11/11]: is there really such a thing as *too* terrifyingly lethal 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01:29 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:05:05 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:06:13 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 16:06:14 The build was fixed. (master - 4ffa06b #4318 : Steve Melenchuk): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/99006867 16:06:14 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 16:06:29 \o/ 16:06:32 crawl is saved! 16:07:23 time to break it again 16:07:34 !break gammafunk 16:07:36 We can break it. We have the technology 16:07:37 . 16:07:54 -!- Guest72275 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:15:36 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:17:56 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 16:18:15 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 16:19:41 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest36734 16:21:56 -!- Guest36734 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:24:24 gammafunk: did you see http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3750248&pagenumber=53&perpage=40#post454278355 16:28:44 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:30:37 -!- meatpath has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:31:09 -!- thetao has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:32:09 PleasingFungus: ahahaha 16:32:23 Greed Is Good 16:33:00 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:35:27 PleasingFungus: nice 16:36:07 !lg * recent cikiller~~serpent_of_hell 16:36:10 83. Dilyz the Hoplite (L27 VSBe of The Shining One), blasted by the Serpent of Hell (crystal spear) on Dis:7 (dis_hangedman) on 2015-12-11 19:24:30, with 754253 points after 36402 turns and 3:46:22. 16:36:15 !lg * recent cikiller~~serpent_of_hell s=name 16:36:19 83 games for * (recent cikiller~~serpent_of_hell): 3x Tabstorm, 2x xorb813, 2x damdam, 2x axecop, 2x zarick13, TALISMASHER, coined, trailerparkvixen, mino, Hiermare, MakeMeASandwich, Gorgo, whales2, CaptBlasto, Sharkman1231, inmateoo, ewwic, chequers, mooon, ProjectEKO, Ajdolov, kazuki, Megaslime, piyakE, zarzak, Herrn, HungrySpirit, fbafelipe, ythm, ebering, deskoch, ahab, Picoutsuho, Gingerlord,... 16:36:39 !killratio the_serpent_of_hell * recent 16:36:42 the_serpent_of_hell wins 2.539% of battles against * (recent). 16:38:16 that's p respectable 16:41:14 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 16:42:01 "A [Hypothetical Optimal Player] who is worshipping Jiyva (okay I'm stretching this a little, let's say it's for the tournament) can be encouraged to purposefully get malmutated if Placid Magic would allow them to cast beneficial spells (such as Haste) immediately instead of requiring more experience that could be more effectively applied elsewhere. Jiyva is the key to this scenario since... 16:42:03 ...Remove Bad Mutation lets them scum safely until they receive this mutation. PF, please save the player base from this tedium [and make Placid Magic a goodmut]. "" 16:42:28 every month or two, a wave of kvetching about placid magic and benemut. 16:43:36 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 16:43:37 The build was fixed. (master - 8ee9131 #4319 : Steve Melenchuk): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/99009285 16:43:37 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 16:46:02 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:51:04 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:55:45 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 16:58:26 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:59:06 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:01:23 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:04:32 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:05:20 dang I just effectively used a stone of tremors 17:05:23 how often does *that* happen 17:05:41 ! 17:11:14 -!- graymark has quit [Client Quit] 17:12:52 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:16:52 -!- PsyMar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:17:21 I used it effectively 17:17:33 there was that loot box with transparent rock 17:17:36 it opened it right up 17:18:00 !send gammafunk a wand of digging 17:18:00 Sending a wand of digging to gammafunk. 17:18:17 Since when do I get those on MiBe runs?! 17:18:29 Also I keep getting the grunt frozen end, it needs to stop 17:20:00 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:20:32 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:21:30 This is just about the most incredible screenshot the world has ever seen: http://i.imgur.com/l1Jvt70.png 17:22:00 what am I looking at 17:22:18 Everything. The entire universe. It's always been right in front of you. 17:22:24 -!- fruitloops7 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:22:40 +369 orb 17:22:48 wow, that green on grey is really hard to read. 17:22:52 +283 lair 17:23:24 yeah obviously 3d next gen graphics are in the final release 17:23:40 obv 17:24:22 Your supercharged wand of heal wounds {recharged} glows brightly!!! 17:24:51 you wasted it! 17:24:53 !lm grunt 17:24:54 10830. [2015-12-27 22:11:16] SGrunt the Grand Gadgeteer (L14 KoGl of Pakellas) reached level 8 of the Lair of Beasts on turn 24073. (Lair:8) 17:26:10 -!- Mixolyde has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:26:28 Grand Gadgeteer, what 17:26:46 6* piety titlw 17:26:47 *title 17:27:48 Yeah I know, but what % of those titles that Grunt made have alliteration? 17:27:55 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 17:30:03 !send gammafunk a little alliteration 17:30:04 Sending a little alliteration to gammafunk. 17:31:24 ...almost a pun... 17:32:08 hahahaha I just shotgunned an unseen horror 17:32:41 Is Shotgun OP? Nerf, Plz. 17:33:39 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:34:11 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest47043 17:36:35 -!- pintc has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:39:25 this has more to the fact that I have way more evo than I probably need right now 17:39:28 *more to do with 17:39:35 how do I two words 17:40:09 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:49:55 -!- foophykins has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:50:39 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-937-g1af3f5e: Make &*Q0 actually do something. 10(27 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1af3f5eedf94 17:50:45 blurgh 17:52:58 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:53:00 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:54:26 -!- Guest47043 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:07 -!- syllogism has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:04:46 -!- Taq has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:05:35 -!- Cenon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:05:40 ontoclasm: ? 18:07:01 wheals: yay 18:08:04 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:10:08 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-a0-937-g1af3f5e (34) 18:11:34 PleasingFungus: did you know that you cannot be polymorphed into a tree if you are standing in a cloud that would be harmful in tree form 18:14:50 -!- vale_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:16:14 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:30:52 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 18:35:14 -!- eb has quit [] 18:36:26 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:36:40 -!- fruitloops7 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:41:29 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:41:44 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 18:42:01 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:44:36 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:47:06 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:47:10 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:53:22 -!- Locke37 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:56:23 -!- Nyvrem has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:57:31 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:09:40 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:27:16 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:34:59 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:35:23 -!- jefus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:35:28 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:44:51 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 19:45:43 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:46:24 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:57:46 * Grunt looks at the code he's writing. 19:57:48 * Grunt turns to stone... 19:59:46 * wheals shudders. 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:37 fr more catlobes 20:03:06 -!- eb has quit [] 20:04:20 * geekosaur pours !lig on the stone 20:04:24 -!- Lasty has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:06:20 yawn 20:06:26 what should i do 20:07:27 ontoclasm: what do you feel like doing 20:07:54 dunno 20:08:35 maybe i'll try and think of La ideas 20:10:20 would it be completely broken if they kept some piety on switching, like when you switch between good gods 20:12:18 i mean, i've been told they're fun but i've also been told they're awful so 20:15:15 !messages 20:15:16 No messages for TZer0. 20:17:11 !tell TZer0 No messages for TZer0 20:17:12 Grunt: OK, I'll let tzer0 know. 20:17:13 . 20:17:16 doh 20:17:20 I just found a good bug 20:18:26 Grunt: did you know that you cannot be polymorphed into a tree if you are standing in a cloud that would be harmful in tree form 20:19:39 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:19:46 -!- Taq has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:19:58 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 20:20:44 03Grunt02 07* 0.18-a0-938-gca94e1c: Fix Device Surge not actually surging wands. 10(45 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ca94e1c16ed0 20:21:24 -!- vev has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:23:43 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:25:21 i guess the success chance is still broken 20:25:44 yeah 20:25:47 that's what I'm working on right now 20:30:23 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 20:30:48 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:31:13 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 20:32:22 03Grunt02 07* 0.18-a0-939-g1e913c8: Show influence of device surge on hex success chance (#10134). 10(3 minutes ago, 3 files, 64+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1e913c87f7d3 20:36:04 Grunt: won't that affect hex spells as well? 20:36:17 ?? ? ? 20:36:18 I don't have a page labeled ?_? in my learndb. 20:36:41 the last function there is specifically for displaying the success chance 20:36:50 i mean, when you're targetting 20:36:52 it has no bearing whatsoever on the actual success chance 20:37:03 oh 20:37:04 I see your point 20:37:23 but if you use device surge, then decide to target a hex spell for unfathomable reasons... 20:38:57 i guess i'd add an evoked parameter and std::bind that as well 20:39:00 yeah 20:39:03 working on that 20:39:45 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:41:00 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:42:56 03Grunt02 07* 0.18-a0-940-g200f45b: Don't let device surge influence hex spell MR display (wheals). 10(29 seconds ago, 4 files, 8+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/200f45b5093a 20:44:16 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 20:45:59 ontoclasm: What's wrong with La that makes them bad 20:55:43 keep in mind that we could add a god that makes the game a waltz to the orb and back to D:1 and some players would still call it awful 20:56:22 (well, it would be awful but not for their reasons...) 20:57:26 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:57:55 geekosaur: They say it's fun but awful 20:58:57 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:03:55 -!- Cacophony has quit [Quit: oh no am scare] 21:10:34 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:12:38 03amalloy02 07* 0.18-a0-941-gb8a2fe6: Address compiler warnings in human-written code 10(2 hours ago, 3 files, 10+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b8a2fe6577ac 21:12:52 -!- DDFi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:13:03 well, people will say anything is awful, though it's important to remember that some things actually are awful 21:13:04 nicolae-: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 21:13:07 !messages 21:13:08 (1/1) PleasingFungus said (1d 7h 14m 5s ago): !bug 10206 and the comment on it 21:13:22 !bug 10206 21:13:23 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10206 21:14:02 alphashops is controversial 21:14:54 the obvious solution: never change item names ever again :v 21:15:05 or if you do never change the starting letter 21:15:11 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:15:17 amulet of wardismissal 21:15:29 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 21:15:53 -!- thetao has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:16:03 -!- HolyRage has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:16:07 -!- HolyRage_ is now known as HolyRage 21:16:44 there's probably ways to implement it robustly but i imagine it'd probably require a lot of effort, somehow taking the item list directly from some existing source of all items 21:19:16 -!- Patashu has quit [Quit: Soundcloud (Famitracker Chiptunes): http://www.soundcloud.com/patashu MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 .] 21:20:22 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 21:22:21 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:24:08 -!- Patashu has quit [Client Quit] 21:24:14 just make it all randarts with names starting with a specific letter 21:24:36 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 21:24:59 -!- inre has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:25:11 i don't think that can be done in lua anyway 21:25:33 -!- arianwen has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:28:58 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:33:29 um 21:33:59 what if the 'a' shop sells only amulets and the 'b' shop only sells boots and... 21:34:53 eh, you get less variety that way, which is why existing amulets/rings/potions/etc are divided up based on their sub-type instead of all going in A or R or P or wherever 21:35:06 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:35:07 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:35:24 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 21:35:36 clearly need an extension to vault syntax. "any good_item prefix:n" 21:35:42 I wasn't serious 21:37:40 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:39:49 -!- Mixolyde has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:40:20 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:40:48 -!- HolyRage has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:40:59 -!- HolyRage_ is now known as HolyRage 21:44:40 -!- gammafunk is now known as bamboomancer 21:44:42 !next 21:44:53 The RNG decrees that bamboomancer shall win MuAs next. 21:44:56 good 21:45:15 !next-cheat 21:45:20 !cmd !next-cheat 21:45:21 Command: !next-cheat => .echo $(no_pm (do (if (= 0 (entrylength ~${user}_next)) "" (ldb-rm! ~${user}_next 1)) (!next))) 21:45:26 The RNG decrees that bamboomancer shall win DgVM next. 21:45:45 what does next cheat mean 21:45:59 (fr the E shop should have a sword named Entarex... and if you run int Maud she should mock you for buying a cheap imitation) 21:46:24 the !next command remembers what it picked and won't pick another until you've won it 21:46:26 Lightli: well gammafunk pointed out that the most effective path for them is to ignore the no-wrath facet and just pick one god 21:46:39 !next-cheat lets you get around that... but forces you to do it in public 21:46:41 Get your first win first, geekosaur! lets you get around that... but forces you to do it in public 21:46:43 dunno if that's precisely true but it's the only solid thing i've heard 21:46:47 ehhe 21:46:58 !next-cheat 21:47:02 The RNG decrees that Lightli shall win for next. 21:47:08 !next 21:47:10 The RNG decrees that ontoclasm shall win SpSk next. 21:47:15 !next 21:47:17 The RNG decrees that Lightli shall win for next. 21:47:18 I think it's broken 21:47:28 !next 21:47:30 The RNG decrees that Grunt shall win Sil next. 21:47:31 hm, looks like it 21:47:37 altough 21:47:50 1learn add goodsequell 21:47:54 ??~Lightli_next 21:47:55 ~Lightli next[1/1]: for 21:48:06 another way to cheat... 21:50:44 1learn set ~Lightli_next a game 21:52:03 ??~geekosaur_next 21:52:04 I don't have a page labeled ~geekosaur_next in my learndb. 21:52:13 !learn del ~Lightli next 21:52:14 Deleted ~Lightli next[1/1]: for 21:52:19 * geekosaur has not played online since getting banished to this crap notwork 21:52:23 !learn add ~geekosaur_next cheatingness 21:52:24 ~geekosaur next[1/1]: cheatingness 21:52:33 <.< 21:52:42 well, once or twice to check something, rapidly got tired of huge delays and quit 21:53:34 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 21:53:46 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 22:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:03:24 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 22:03:47 !next-cheat 22:03:57 The RNG decrees that bamboomancer shall win HaAs next. 22:04:14 -!- bamboomancer is now known as gammafunk 22:07:32 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 22:08:39 Grunt: if you can look at my game, see what I got in new orc from a single cast of shadow creatures 22:09:29 -!- jefus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:09:53 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 22:12:00 -!- jefus- has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:12:33 http://i.imgur.com/sikkuIJ.png 22:12:59 nice 22:13:04 -!- vale_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:14:33 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:16:31 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:17:11 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 22:18:51 -!- ystael has quit [Client Quit] 22:26:30 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 22:32:15 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:33:37 hm 22:33:38 !lg * recent abyss !ak s=cikiller 22:33:40 8436 games for * (recent abyss !ak): 849x a starcursed mass, 628x a raiju, 619x a large abomination, 437x a tentacled starspawn, 400x a wretched star, 345x a thrashing horror, 306x a smoke demon, 287x a small abomination, 238x a lich, 216x a spatial maelstrom, 214x an Executioner, 213x, 200x a bone dragon, 168x a balrug, 164x a sixfirhy, 134x a Hell Sentinel, 133x an ancient lich, 127x a very ugly... 22:35:19 * wheals screams in Grunt's mind! 22:35:31 * Grunt suddenly loses the ability to move! 22:35:54 !lm . 22:35:55 17833. [2015-12-28 03:25:38] gammafunk the Summoner (L13 MuSu of Sif Muna) left the Orcish Mines on turn 13182. (Orc:1) 22:35:59 -!- vale_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:38:24 -!- Kelb has joined ##crawl-dev 22:40:37 hey guys, what's the plan to fix malmutate? 22:41:16 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:42:36 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:45:03 is malmutate broken 22:45:09 -!- HolyRage has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:45:11 -!- HolyRage__ is now known as HolyRage 22:47:51 -!- HolyRage_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:48:10 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-942-g244f4fb: Show immunity when targetting an MR-resistible spell (#9391). 10(3 minutes ago, 9 files, 31+ 20-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/244f4fb049b1 22:48:14 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:48:33 permanent debuff with no available counter, you don't think that's broken? 22:48:44 it has tons of counters 22:49:02 it does? 22:49:06 yes 22:49:13 kill the mutator 22:49:15 break LoS 22:49:18 have stealth 22:49:20 use fog 22:49:27 use allies 22:49:30 I'd say malmutate is broken because of how easy it is to avoid 22:49:58 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:51:01 !beer wheals 22:51:02 * Sequell slides a mug of lager down the bar to wheals, courtesy of Grunt. 22:51:11 !send Grunt Hacks 22:51:12 Sending Hacks to Grunt. 22:51:17 well, also it's silly that there are bad mutations like slow healing and teleportitis that do nothing to actually hurt your character, but that's minor 22:52:13 none of those supposed counters actually do anything to mitigate malmutate being cast on you 22:52:21 what 22:52:21 anyway, seriously. Does anyone know why turning into tree form in a harmful cloud is prohibited? it's really weird 22:52:23 yes they do 22:52:36 dead things can't cast spells 22:52:42 those are just ways to reduce the number of times you get hit by malmutate 22:52:43 things that can't see you can't cast spells 22:52:49 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 22:52:56 that's... literally the meaning of mitigate 22:53:01 ontoclasm: to be fair, stealth is a really bad way to try to mitigate malmutate 22:53:07 well sure 22:53:12 no that's literally the meaning of avoid 22:53:26 Kelb: potions of cure mutation 22:54:03 Kelb: you also didn't say "mitigate" at first, you just said "counter" 22:54:51 and using summons makes it impossible for malmutate to hit you (which I hope will change) so it seems like a pretty strong counter 22:55:00 ok, cure mutation, so is cure mutation going to show up more frequently now? 22:55:08 it already is 22:55:08 %git :/cure mutation 22:55:08 07Lasty02 * 0.18-a0-898-g3bb3c97: Increase potion of cure mutation spawn rate 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3bb3c97757f3 22:55:23 (i disagree with that change, but there it is) 22:56:21 I was not aware of that change, thanks 22:56:23 yeah, the change does more to encourage intentional mutation than to change the way you play around malmutate (it doesn't do the latter at all) 22:56:27 -!- vale__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:56:36 Kelb: neqoxecs are also a bit rarer now too 22:56:37 wheals: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 22:57:21 !messages 22:57:22 No messages for Kelb. 22:57:39 makes it less punishing to play superfast though i guess 22:57:51 gotta go fast 22:57:51 it took me a long time to realize that malmutate required LoS. I don't know why it took me so long 22:58:26 breaking LoS isn't always viable in abyss 22:58:54 that's why i listed like seven things 22:59:01 be a summoner isn't an acceptable answer for most characters 22:59:11 same goes for stealth 23:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:45 fog, sure, but scrolls of fog are pretty rare 23:01:06 you're skipping by far the most important one on the list 23:01:10 obviously it shouldn't be possible to avoid it every time 23:01:11 i.e. kill the thing 23:01:42 unless the idea is to be entirely about the threat and not the actual consequences 23:01:44 eventually you have to come into LoS to kill the thing obviously 23:01:45 -!- inire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:01:59 at which point it can mutate you 23:02:35 yes, sorry, sometimes mutate will get cast on you 23:02:44 Deal With It imo 23:03:06 you can avoid it the vast majority of the time, most mutations are not a big deal, and cmut exists 23:06:10 I guess time will tell whether cmut drops often enough for melees to do 15 rune still 23:06:39 maybe by extended you should have a ranged attack 23:06:42 just a thought 23:07:29 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: Farewell.] 23:07:44 -!- Rast has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:08:12 -!- Rast has joined ##crawl-dev 23:12:14 unavoidable malmutation also makes beneficial mutations less attractive 23:12:46 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:13:01 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-943-g2c08dd4: Fix the display for Ensorcelled Hibernation (chris). 10(9 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2c08dd4c8768 23:13:30 -!- Dixlet has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:14:21 -!- Sage1234 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:15:01 -!- simples has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:17:54 -!- inire has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:20:01 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:20:13 -!- inre has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:20:26 -!- Cerpin has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:24:40 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 23:26:15 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:26:26 -!- Sage1234 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:26:56 -!- vale_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:29:19 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:29:59 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 23:31:10 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:32:36 !tell minmay weirdly, I did know that. 23:32:37 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let minmay know. 23:32:48 !tell minmay wrt tree form cloud interaction. 23:32:48 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let minmay know. 23:34:24 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 23:39:51 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 23:40:27 -!- Sage1234 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:48:48 -!- Adder has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]