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The boost lasts for a turn 00:02:00 or two after the wizard leaves LOS of the priest (including if the priest 00:02:00 is killed). 00:02:03 Grunt: ^ 00:02:52 basically, it's to prevent some types of message spam 00:03:09 see: torpor snails 00:03:23 if I set the duration of the effect much lower than I do, it could expire and re-trigger over, say, two hasted actions 00:03:25 ah ok 00:03:50 pretty sure I heard more than one person say they don't think torpor snails are good, but I really like them 00:04:01 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 00:04:12 (probably totally irrelevant to the convo at hand) 00:05:15 ??torpor snail[2 00:05:16 torpor snail[2/2]: natural_leader = true; // snails are natural-born leaders. fact. 00:05:34 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:06:41 .jsmap ikiller=torpor_snail 00:06:42 1. hitbutton the Shatterer (L19 HOGl of Gozag), slain by a torpor snail on Spider:4 (johnstein_spider_rune_arachne_lair) on 2015-11-29 11:14:40, with 216499 points after 51438 turns and 2:26:50. 00:07:07 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:14:07 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:16:24 -!- AltReality has quit [Quit: Shame on us, doomed from the start, May God have mercy on our dirty little hearts. Shame on us, for what we've done, and all we ever were, just zeros and ones.] 00:18:39 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:20:13 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 00:28:09 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-867-gfd1cc8f (34) 00:31:21 -!- Jessika has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:32:41 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:32:45 New branch created: pull/203 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/203 00:32:45 03argonaut02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/203 * 0.18-a0-868-g22f4fed: Increase speed of longswords to make them less like a bad scimitar. 10(18 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/22f4fed8f84a 00:34:51 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:37:03 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:38:25 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 00:38:27 why should they not be a bad scimitar? 00:38:48 add that as a comment on the pr 00:38:49 i m h o 00:39:43 done. 00:40:09 FR make every weapon endgame-quality 00:40:31 !send PleasingFungus clubs 00:40:31 Sending clubs to PleasingFungus. 00:40:36 !send amalloy clubs 00:40:37 Sending clubs to amalloy. 00:40:39 ??club[2 00:40:39 club[2/2]: Not a terrible weapon forged in the fires of hell -- just a terrible weapon. 00:40:45 no need to club me over the head with it... 00:40:50 technically, clubs were more useful in the past. 00:40:53 !send PleasingFungus a giant spiked club 00:40:54 Sending a giant spiked club to PleasingFungus. 00:41:12 * PleasingFungus throws a +2/+1 club at Grunt! 00:41:17 or whatever the notation was... 00:41:21 +2,+1 00:41:28 that was my second guess 00:41:37 The +2,+1 club completely misses Grunt. 00:42:17 the +2,+1 club hits your ice beast! 00:42:28 The ice beast shatters! 00:42:29 <.< 00:42:32 Okawaru booms, "You will pay for your transgression, mortal!" 00:43:18 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:43:44 can we please get a few turns of confusion resistance after confusion ends 00:43:56 i just used 5 curing pots while surrounded by 3 golden eyes 00:44:29 dang. sounds like shining eyes were accidentally relevant in your game 00:45:14 i think it's great actually that you had to do that. most of the time golden eyes are totally ignorable by the time you get to them, and that's not a good place for monsters to be 00:46:00 i don't mind irresistable petrify from the other eyes 00:46:04 * Grunt blinks at amalloy. 00:46:06 since you get the time to escape 00:46:16 why do eyes blink 00:46:20 there's only one of them 00:46:23 so shouldn't they wink instead 00:46:27 haha 00:46:31 what eyes petrify you? orb of eyes? 00:46:36 @??great orb of eyes 00:46:36 great orb of eyes (09G) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 52-82 | AC/EV: 10/3 | Dam: 20 | see invisible, fly, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(120), 03poison, 12drown | XP: 1025 | Sp: paralyse [06!sil], disintegrate (d44) [06!sil], drain magic [06!sil], confuse [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: human. 00:46:42 giant eyeball, presumably 00:46:42 that's not irresistible ftr 00:46:47 @??giant eyeball 00:46:47 giant eyeball (00G) | Spd: 3 | HD: 3 | HP: 9-23 | AC/EV: 0/1 | see invisible, fly, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(10), 12drown | XP: 8 | Sp: paralysis gaze [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: brainless. 00:46:48 giant eyeball is paralysis 00:47:06 i don't remember ever being petrified by an eye 00:47:07 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:47:21 well paralysis is irresistable petrification in that you can't stop the "petrification" :v 00:47:24 anyway, my point is that I'm worried shining eyes in mnoleg will lead to stupid deaths where you quaff 12 curing potions and get confusion locked 00:47:44 are you confusing shining and golden eyes? 00:47:47 chequers: if you are going to mnoleg without enough MR to resist golden eyes 00:47:48 which sounds yes like shining eyes are relevant but also silly 00:48:07 @??shining eye 00:48:07 shining eye (13G) | Spd: 7 | HD: 10 | HP: 44-72 | AC/EV: 3/1 | see invisible, fly, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(100), 12drown | Vul: 11silver | XP: 548 | Sp: malmutate [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: brainless. 00:48:20 amalloy: regardless of the amount of MR, confusion locking is something I argue is Not Good 00:50:01 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:50:12 can we clarify what thing you are actually talking about? so far you have claimed some kind of eye petrifies you (i don't think any do), and that shining eyes confuse you (they don't) 00:50:13 -!- nikheizen has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:50:32 sorry, paralysed 00:50:34 not petrified 00:52:06 i haven't personally run into a lot of situations i would describe as confusino lock. but let's say it's a real thing. if it were indefinite-extent, like there were 20 eyes and every time you cured you were instantly confused again until you finally died, that would be pretty bad 00:52:33 but if it's something you can shake off after a few tries, it seems basically the same as paralysis 00:53:01 -!- Rast has joined ##crawl-dev 00:53:18 are you saying that only current difference between confusion and paralysis is that one has resistance after it expires? 00:54:27 no, i'm saying that spending 5 turns unable to do anything is a lot like paralysis 00:55:26 but i do see what you mean, i think: if i'm claiming that having 5 things confusing you at once is a lot like one thing paralysing you, it sucks to not get temporary resistance when you snap out of it 00:55:49 ah, no I'm not claiming confusion and paralysis are similar 00:56:03 I don't have a problem with paralysis as it currently stands, and I don't think it's similar to confusion 00:56:36 i think you're not really understanding what i'm saying. i'm not saying one instance of confusion is like paralysis 00:57:02 i'm saying that the situation you described, where you were confused by so many things you had to quaff !curing 5 turns in a row, is the same as being paralysed for 5 turns 00:58:19 ok, sure. The differences are probably not relevant to this discussion 00:59:15 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:59:53 well the difference is you didn't get any confusion resistance after curing out of it 01:00:03 whereas if it had been actual paralysis you would have 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:27 which i think is exactly what you're objecting to: it's an effect that feels a lot like paralysis but doesn't give the resistance at the end 01:01:25 yes, also there is no guaranteed end. If you're low MR and there are >3 shining eyes on screen, I would consider 5 turns to cure out of confusion a minimum 01:01:41 golden eyes 01:02:04 @??golden eye 01:02:04 golden eye (08G) | Spd: 13 | HD: 6 | HP: 8-16 | AC/EV: 0/20 | see invisible, fly, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(60), 12drown | XP: 188 | Sp: confusion gaze [06!sil], blink [06!sil] | Sz: tiny | Int: brainless. 01:02:09 in the current game, it is probably a strategic error to enter golden eye territory with inadequate MR 01:02:45 my complaint/fr is to add a short period of confusion immunity so these mistakes are reliably escapable 01:05:08 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:05:36 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:06:05 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 01:06:45 Grunt: iron giants are very fun 01:08:30 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:12:01 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-867-gfd1cc8f (34) 01:14:07 the thing is by the time you see golden eyes, you should have MR or a means to increase it 01:14:44 -!- lvanderpool has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:14:47 they're not the best enemy design outside of "catch some unwary people that wandered into slime too early" 01:15:18 which I guess is an ok purpose for them on some level, but we do have nasty things there that are good at killing you in other ways 01:15:40 hrm, I forget 01:15:43 ??potion_of_resistance 01:15:44 potion of resistance[1/1]: Gives temporary resistance to fire, cold, electricity, acid, and poison. Duration is between 10 and 29 turns. Nice against Nikola, in Slime:6 and on Zot:5. 01:15:56 right 01:17:48 -!- neunon has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 01:18:31 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 01:19:32 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-867-gfd1cc8f (34) 01:21:56 when i've wandered into slime too early, the slime creatures and acid blobs hae been way more problematic than golden eyes 01:22:15 the times i've noticed golden eyes are when i go into slime at the usual time without noticing that i haven't gotten the usual amount of MR 01:22:43 like i think a ru game where i sacrificed MR 01:22:56 I was at mnoleg for this instance 01:23:50 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 01:26:53 cool, just fell through a shaft on d:1 01:27:00 into a flame cloud generated by a veh altar 01:27:17 survived with 1 hp 01:28:57 interesting 01:29:01 the spriggan pizza counter had a bunch of bees in it with the spriggan 01:29:28 donblas: did you get roc's email 01:31:49 also, to the above conversation about 'confusion lock' i find it to be the worst against an early unique with a /confusion 01:32:01 because they always seem to be really trigger happy when they get a wand of any sort they can use 01:32:38 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:32:56 tarantellas can also be bad about it. generally speaking, golden eyes aren't much of an issue with it ime 01:33:34 imho we should have any status effect give you a few turns of immunity to said status effect when it wears off, the way banishment does 01:34:01 (and repeated applications shouldn't lengthen the duration) 01:34:15 does MR even affect tarantella confusion? or is that just affected by rP? 01:34:26 it's affected by Nothing 01:34:52 afair 01:35:04 huh 01:35:10 i thought rP worked 01:35:35 nope 01:35:53 tarantellas cause confusion not via poison, but via ???? 01:35:55 maybe i haven't noticed in a while since i tend to kill them with extreme prejudice 01:36:13 ontoclasm: dancing! 01:36:39 uh, mummies have rRhythm and they still get confused 01:37:08 well mnoleg is basically after slime for most chars 01:37:50 PleasingFungus: what happens if they don't like your posts on SA 01:38:01 is there some kind of shadow-archaeo waiting to ban me 01:38:28 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 01:39:09 yes 01:39:26 don't post a thread that starts with "so" 01:40:41 dammit 01:41:47 ProzacElf: oh yeah, duvessa with /confusion in a recent game 01:42:54 haha 01:43:07 oh, i just had pikel with an /enslave my most recent game 01:43:35 i killed him but only because i lucked into an relec randart ring earlier 01:48:02 -!- donblas has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:54:52 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:55:02 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-867-gfd1cc8f 01:55:43 -!- FireSight has quit [] 01:56:08 ProzacElf: Come back when it's grinder with /haste 01:56:55 the benefit there is if you kill him you get a /haste though 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:06:57 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:09:22 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:12:45 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 02:12:47 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 02:13:47 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:15:21 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:18:02 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 02:21:17 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:22:18 -!- beogh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:23:26 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:26:32 -!- ZanniqlcKzxkq has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:28:23 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 02:37:09 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:37:36 thank you for removing submerging 02:37:39 THANK 02:37:40 YOU 02:40:29 trapdoor spiders? 02:41:42 at least you can't see them 02:47:36 amalloy: No those were fine 02:48:37 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:50:14 You can't autoexplore, there's a submerged monsters at the edge of your LoS! 02:53:24 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-867-gfd1cc8f 02:53:59 oh, that's a great change 02:56:18 -!- Ryblade 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T:11894 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/musclemanjr/crash-musclemanjr-20151221-095259.txt 07:27:08 oh intended ok :> 07:27:11 ty 07:30:15 -!- uJellie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:31:14 i see the crash issue 07:31:23 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:32:18 -!- Nyvrem has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:41:25 two ideas for per-ability charges/cooldown: 07:42:21 1) after using the ability, the fail rate for the next cast goes to 100%. Every n auts, the fail rate is reduced if x_chance_in_y(failrate,100) 07:43:22 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-868-gf8405b0: Don't crash when casting IMB near the level border. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 20+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f8405b058b34 07:43:44 2) charge-based system. summon greater demons are 'gifted' to you by makh as something you can sommon on demand. This is like gating the overall rate of demons summoned, but allows the player to drop only a few at any one time 07:44:09 (sgd is for illustrative purpoes only, but this would be simplest to implement using gift timeout, I suspect) 07:44:46 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:45:01 not sure what those mechanics could be used for yet 07:47:05 !tell Grunt glad to see #8058 finally got resolved 07:47:06 wheals: OK, I'll let grunt know. 07:48:20 -!- Bcadren_ is now known as Bcadren 07:48:58 !bug 8058 07:48:59 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8058 07:49:19 heh 07:49:42 so many bugs closed 07:49:54 at this rate we won't have any left in 20 years 07:53:19 last 365 days, one more opened bug than resolved... damn 07:55:40 not anymore 07:56:04 yey 07:56:07 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 07:57:34 !flip -1 07:57:35 (╯°□°)╯︵Ɩ- 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:13:32 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:23:40 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:28:00 -!- serq has quit [Quit: suddenly gone...] 08:28:13 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-869-gcf278c0: Don't detect underwater items if you can't reach them (#7698). 10(15 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cf278c028555 08:30:38 wheals: gozag gold detection has separate code (in two spots iirc), maybe it needs that change too? 08:31:14 i think if gold falls into water it goes into your inventory now 08:31:51 ah 08:35:46 -!- argent0 has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:42:34 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:42:49 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:45:02 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 08:49:55 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:05:49 gavelock (L9 MiFi) ERROR: range check error (83 / 80) (D (Sprint)) 09:06:36 -!- Dixie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:07:42 -!- n1k has joined ##crawl-dev 09:08:05 -!- n1k is now known as Guest1897 09:08:09 -!- Dixie has joined ##crawl-dev 09:08:20 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 09:08:21 The build has errored. (master - cf278c0 #4275 : Shmuale Mark): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/98114681 09:08:21 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 09:10:26 -!- n1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:11:05 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:16:33 -!- donblas has joined ##crawl-dev 09:18:08 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:26:24 -!- pintc has quit [Changing host] 09:34:58 -!- Tilogour has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:50:15 -!- donblas_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:50:37 please feel free to take a look, I won't post anywhere until this evening (https://github.com/crawl/tiles) 09:50:59 and apparently, my hung client left a ghost 09:52:01 -!- donblas has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:00:08 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:04:20 -!- pintc has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:05:42 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:06:20 -!- pintc has quit [Changing host] 10:12:23 i wish linking a debug exe on windows didn't take several minute 10:12:25 s 10:20:55 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:22:00 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:25:16 -!- mumbologist has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:35:18 linking under msys always seemed really slow 10:35:36 I guess what really hurts is not having ccache though 10:36:02 .gfgk 10:36:04 63. TugoseryaHuesosov the Grappler (L16 TrMo of Ru), slain by a stone giant in WizLab (wizlab_lehudib) on 2015-12-20 22:33:35, with 145933 points after 40499 turns and 2:53:37. 10:36:08 Proof that Ru is weak 10:36:24 .moon name=tugoseryahuesosov -tv:channel=moon:>$ 10:36:26 1. TugoseryaHuesosov, XL16 TrMo, T:38139 (milestone) requested for moon: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 10:39:32 -!- donblas_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:40:23 mpr("Couldn't find player kraken!"); 10:40:31 i didn't know we had player krakens 10:41:04 experimental branch 10:43:54 -!- Cerpin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:51:23 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:54:03 !lg * recent br=wizlab x=avg(xl) 10:54:04 267 games for * (recent br=wizlab): avg(xl)=17.3 10:54:20 !lm * recent br.enter=wizlab x=avg(xl) 10:54:21 7226 milestones for * (recent br.enter=wizlab): avg(xl)=20.53 10:56:15 !lm * br.enter recent s=noun / lg:br=$noun o=% 10:56:38 99328/814434 milestones for * (br.enter recent): 13/13x Abyss [100.00%], 151/190x D [79.47%], 30629/98646x Lair [31.05%], 3881/18449x Shoals [21.04%], 5012/25485x Vaults [19.67%], 3906/20039x Snake [19.49%], 3811/20844x Swamp [18.28%], 11654/67788x Orc [17.19%], 3411/20335x Spider [16.77%], 3525/23305x Bailey [15.13%], 3561/23634x Depths [15.07%], 4085/28209x Elf [14.48%], 1896/13803x Slime [13.74... 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:07 -!- radinms has quit [] 11:13:07 -!- unthrig is now known as thrig 11:13:11 -!- thrig has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:17:55 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:17:59 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:18:38 -!- lvanderpool has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:20:35 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:21:31 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:22:36 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:37 -!- yottam has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:24:47 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:31:44 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 11:41:38 -!- culcube is now known as phyphor 11:44:29 -!- SaintWacko has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 11:45:39 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:46:51 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:52:05 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:54:32 resistentialism (L18 FoAK) ERROR: range check error (-1 / 70) (Snake:3) 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:05:00 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:08:59 -!- molotove1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:12:34 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:13:32 -!- wheals_ has quit [Client Quit] 12:14:53 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:16:11 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:16:47 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 12:17:15 -!- Dixie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:26:05 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-869-gcf278c0 (34) 12:33:20 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:33:28 -!- molotove2 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:39:13 #10189 is fixed in stone_soup-0.17, but it was after the release 12:39:37 not sure what we can do 12:39:53 -!- Gaiden has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:45:30 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-870-gb21bac6: Add line-drawing graphics for tentacle segments (#2067). 10(55 minutes ago, 5 files, 334+ 260-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b21bac6b25fe 12:45:30 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-871-g431d181: Remove some DCHAR_s of questionable utility. 10(15 minutes ago, 4 files, 11+ 36-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/431d18129cd2 12:45:30 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-872-g44f32cd: Dereference. 10(12 seconds ago, 8 files, 14+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/44f32cd462e9 12:49:51 < and > look pretty ugly for tentacles but sadly angle brackets are not in WGL4 12:50:32 <|amethyst> wheals: that also needs changes to options_guide.txt (display_char), and settings/{ibm,dec,old_unicode}_glyphs.txt 12:51:32 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:42 -!- Sage1234 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:55:46 good catch 12:55:53 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-873-g86f88f2: Also update options files for DCHAR_ changes (|amethyst). 10(11 seconds ago, 4 files, 7+ 30-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/86f88f25dcf6 12:57:15 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:58:16 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:06:09 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:06:49 woah, tentacle UI changes? 13:07:09 * wheals tentacle-slaps gammafunk. 13:08:07 What was that?! All I saw was a bunch of / \ | 13:08:27 (I assume those are the chars used) 13:08:38 well, not those but 13:08:41 something like those? 13:09:22 wheals: if this makes watching moon base kills less enjoyable, I'm going to be upset 13:09:53 it does use / and \, but it also uses │┌┐└┘Λ 13:10:12 w e i r d 13:10:12 and V < > 13:10:46 like they're Tron tentacles 13:10:55 fr: Tron wizlab 13:11:07 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:13:20 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 13:14:50 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:19:05 -!- meatpath has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:19:18 -!- lvanderpool has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:23:17 -!- toastedzergling has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:25:16 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:25:39 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:26:40 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 13:26:41 The build passed. 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(master - 86f88f2 #4277 : Shmuale Mark): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/98165584 14:03:17 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 14:03:35 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 14:07:35 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:07:55 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-874-gce39f86: Warn if using a stone of tremors would hit allies (#7540). 10(76 seconds ago, 2 files, 29+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ce39f86a3701 14:07:58 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:10:20 sigh, just three more 14:15:53 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: Farewell.] 14:22:06 wheals is reading a scroll of genocide bugs 14:22:20 Sent in some bugs. 14:22:34 mmm, cursed genocide 14:22:48 I can't live without my disintegration resistance! 14:23:24 -!- toastedzergling has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:30:39 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:34:21 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:35:24 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 14:36:53 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:38:35 Ally travel speed setting not taking effect. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10190 by Alethiolet 14:42:26 -!- nimitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:44:29 gammafunk: that reminds me, it's probably time to talk about my plans for the new amulet of cooking 14:44:33 -!- Skybreaker has quit [Client Quit] 14:44:39 It might seem at first like it's adding a pointless minigame to crawl 14:44:46 but it's actually 6 overlapping mini-minigames 14:44:53 Lasty_: make it a god so I can rage about it please!!! 14:45:05 I'll even updated my color-coded god ranking 14:45:09 *update 14:45:39 Lasty_: can i dual-wield the amulet of cooking in each of my ogre mouths?? 14:45:49 I wonder what other gods I should do CASUAL runs of 14:45:51 !lg . won s=god 14:45:52 37 games for gammafunk (won): 5x Sif Muna, 5x Vehumet, 2x Dithmenos, 2x Qazlal, 2x The Shining One, 2x Elyvilon, 2x Pakellas, 2x Nemelex Xobeh, Trog, Okawaru, Yredelemnul, Xom, Beogh, Kikubaaqudgha, Fedhas, Cheibriados, Jiyva, Gozag, , Ru, Ashenzari, Zin, Lugonu 14:45:54 wheals: Of course! Why wouldn't you be able to? 14:46:06 I'm not sure what other build would even be fun for me for Ru 14:46:15 I had an idea to try maybe OgHu of dith at least 14:46:15 gammafunk: only one way to find out 14:46:27 !sacrifices gammafunk ru 14:46:29 Last sacrifices made by gammafunk: stealth, courage, arcana, purity, purity, purity, drink, purity, purity 14:46:34 heh 14:46:35 the cheap ones 14:46:36 That's a fuckload of purity 14:46:41 i wish there were an easier way to recharge evokers in wizmode than killing cerebov 14:46:54 which is purty? 14:46:59 ??sacrifice_purity 14:46:59 sacrifice purity[1/1]: One level of shoutitis, slow healing, no device heal, dopey, clumsy or weak. (Ru will pick at random then let you accept or decline.) 14:47:07 oh that makes sense 14:47:14 yeah, it's a cheap one 14:47:22 OgHu^dith is pretty entertaining 14:47:42 Sacrifice purty: monsters stop complementing your appearance. 14:47:48 for the problem in part with Ru beyond my feelings on the choose sac minigame 14:48:00 is that the god is not terribly specific for builds 14:48:08 !sacrifices lightli ru 14:48:10 Last sacrifices made by lightli: love, stealth, purity, essence, health, purity, arcana, health, purity 14:48:11 it's a generalist like mka 14:48:13 *mak 14:48:19 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-875-ga513d27: Also add a tracer for the phial of floods. 10(11 seconds ago, 2 files, 7+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a513d2723f4d 14:48:30 I am without love 14:48:31 I'd say it favors more melee over more magic, like mak does 14:48:33 gammafunk: I thought you liked generalist gods like Makh 14:48:44 Well yes, generalist is no problem 14:48:59 mak has no weird minigames and just gives a great passive and fun actives in the usual simple way 14:49:24 I guess for Ru game no. 2 I'd have to think of something like 14:49:26 oh maybe DD 14:49:30 would be amusing 14:49:42 could do a Tm/UC char I guess 14:49:50 DD^Ru works. rchandra did one. 14:49:58 I wonder.. 14:50:02 !lg * dd ru won 14:50:03 15. Kadarus the Talismancer (L25 DDFi of Ru), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-11-27 19:08:18, with 1785533 points after 64044 turns and 10:59:20. 14:50:15 !lg * dd ru won s=name 14:50:15 !hs * dd ru 14:50:16 !lg * recent dd !boring s=god / won o=% 14:50:16 15 games for * (dd ru won): Svalbardcaretaker, HungrySpirit, elliptic, rubinko, Roshnak, casual, koolguydude, liarnose, DEFE, hyperrchandra, Lasty, johnnyzero, Zooty, dis, Kadarus 14:50:17 465. DEFE the Skullcrusher (L27 DDFi of Ru), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-03-20 14:18:47, with 16788623 points after 92748 turns and 6:14:06. 14:50:17 491/17083 games for * (recent dd !boring): 5/31x Jiyva [16.13%], 24/156x The Shining One [15.38%], 350/3955x Makhleb [8.85%], 11/218x Pakellas [5.05%], 4/94x Cheibriados [4.26%], 1/25x Fedhas [4.00%], 12/311x Elyvilon [3.86%], 1/34x Zin [2.94%], 8/350x Ru [2.29%], 1/50x Sif Muna [2.00%], 62/3150x Trog [1.97%], 1/59x Ashenzari [1.69%], 3/196x Nemelex Xobeh [1.53%], 4/431x Lugonu [0.93%], 1/108x Goz... 14:50:33 !lg * recent dd !boring s=god urune<=5 / won o=% 14:50:35 336/16874 games for * (recent dd !boring urune<=5): 4/30x Jiyva [13.33%], 228/3786x Makhleb [6.02%], 4/94x Cheibriados [4.26%], 9/214x Pakellas [4.21%], 10/308x Elyvilon [3.25%], 3/132x The Shining One [2.27%], 7/349x Ru [2.01%], 1/50x Sif Muna [2.00%], 60/3148x Trog [1.91%], 3/196x Nemelex Xobeh [1.53%], 1/107x Gozag [0.93%], 4/431x Lugonu [0.93%], 1/229x Kikubaaqudgha [0.44%], 1/246x Okawaru [0.... 14:50:40 heh, pak 14:50:43 &G 14:50:46 oops 14:52:08 !lg * recent tr !boring s=god urune<=5 / won o=% 14:52:10 382/41022 games for * (recent tr !boring urune<=5): 45/310x Jiyva [14.52%], 17/323x Dithmenos [5.26%], 14/278x Yredelemnul [5.04%], 83/2040x Okawaru [4.07%], 6/159x Fedhas [3.77%], 37/986x Ru [3.75%], 3/84x Zin [3.57%], 13/413x Ashenzari [3.15%], 25/906x Qazlal [2.76%], 45/2672x Cheibriados [1.68%], 15/910x Makhleb [1.65%], 6/366x Nemelex Xobeh [1.64%], 1/64x Gozag [1.56%], 4/342x The Shining One ... 14:52:17 wow yred 14:52:47 Yred's a pretty solid troll god. 14:53:05 Pretty solid all around, really. 14:53:11 Just gotta micromanage your stupid allies 14:53:19 well, really, just gotta park them 14:53:28 yeah I guess...pretty much all gods are solid troll gods 14:53:33 Sure, but Yred is solid in general 14:53:33 I guess the allies help earlier when your defenses are poorer 14:53:48 Also: Gozag is not a solid troll god. 14:53:50 yeah for sure, it's just funny to see him have such a representation 14:53:52 At least, not literally 14:54:07 yeah I mean: Tr are ridiculous 14:54:22 so it doesn't matter super a lot, athiest is a pretty solid troll god in the sense I mean :) 14:55:11 i guess i should mess around with La some more maybe 14:55:29 my vote is you maintain this experimental branch 14:55:38 indefinitely, making it a de-facto species 14:55:49 from there it becomes a full-blown DCSS fork 14:56:02 when someone adds a shapeshifter species or something 14:56:21 haha 14:58:35 -!- MakMorn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:59:28 -!- cang has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:59:54 obv. i'll just make it into 14:59:57 ??ontocrawl 14:59:57 ontocrawl[1/1]: 1/2 level area; ~2x cost of skills over 10, ~4x cost over 20; 1/2 item gen in every branch but D, zero item gen in extended, don't gen "popcorn" monsters anywhere ever 15:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:41 -!- Dixie has joined ##crawl-dev 15:02:27 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 15:03:15 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:03:23 -!- tollymain has joined ##crawl-dev 15:05:46 -!- MakMorn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:07:09 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 15:08:32 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:08:47 -!- MgDark__ is now known as MgDark 15:08:51 -!- argent0 has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:09:44 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 15:11:26 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 15:12:42 MordorOrchid (L25 SpWz) ERROR: range check error (-1 / 70) (Depths:5) 15:12:46 -!- MgDark_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:12:55 !crashlog 15:12:56 12749. MordorOrchid, XL25 SpWz, T:107361 (milestone): http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/MordorOrchid/crash-MordorOrchid-20151221-201224.txt 15:13:08 %git :/crash 15:13:09 07wheals02 * 0.18-a0-868-gf8405b0: Don't crash when casting IMB near the level border. 10(8 hours ago, 1 file, 20+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f8405b058b34 15:13:37 Position: (16, 1) 15:13:40 ??rebuild 15:13:40 rebuild[1/2]: https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 15:20:01 -!- lvanderpool has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:24:02 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-876-gb7480ce: Simplify. 10(20 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b7480ce922fa 15:24:02 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-877-g4130345: Don't autotarget through glass, even with smitey spells (#6079). 10(16 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4130345124af 15:28:01 -!- DubiousFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 15:28:07 -!- mizu_no__ has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 15:28:19 thanks to someone who's nick might or might not be wheals, we're negative on bugs for the year. 15:28:50 i blame that Whales2 fellow 15:28:56 hm. plausible! 15:29:42 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/summary_graph_byreporter.php?width=487 this graph is so good 15:30:16 a useful graph 15:31:17 if you set width to something north of 10000, it's basically mostly readable. takes a bit to load, though. also probably hazardous on computers without much ram. 15:34:29 Redundant warning while casting cloud spell under Qazlal at your position 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10192 by Yermak 15:34:29 Residual warning while confused and next to deep water. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10191 by Yermak 15:36:41 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:36:50 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 15:38:44 -!- DubiousFungus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:39:35 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:39:42 good to see that i'm not the only one working on mantis today 15:40:49 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:42:12 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:47:08 -!- miek__ is now known as miek_ 15:47:20 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-875-ga513d27 (34) 15:47:54 hopefully my changes haven't caused too many new crashes 15:50:14 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:53:30 if you create new crashes you'll have new bugs to fix 15:53:50 thereby giving you the opportunity to create more crashes 15:53:58 !glasses 15:53:58 ( •_•)    ( •_•)>⌐■-■    (⌐■_■) 15:54:02 wheals within wheals 15:54:11 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:56:31 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-878-g4850e38: Don't leak info about out-of-LOS in spell_no_hostile_in_range (#7093). 10(15 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4850e383a25d 15:56:37 secret tech removal 16:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01:24 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:02:24 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:07:34 that doesn't fix clouds right? 16:07:59 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 16:08:05 i don't know 16:08:13 according to the ticket clouds are no longer relevant 16:08:30 oh, thanks past me 16:08:42 trustworthy source 16:08:47 couldn't possibly be wrong 16:08:53 ayep 16:09:50 man that page is so green, good work 16:11:04 !bug 7093 16:11:05 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7093 16:11:22 and 3 of the remaining things are strongly related 16:13:47 i have discovered that local players don't really understand the concept of things being changed 16:14:25 "Bonus question: The in-progress build (with tiles) appears to have a different, darker UI, with different skill icons. What gives?" 16:14:35 i don't really know how to answer this 16:15:11 maybe it's not worth answering 16:15:15 ontoclasm: simply give them some obtuse quote from eastern philosophy, no other response 16:15:17 it's only a bonus question after all :P 16:15:31 perhaps it is not the gui which has changed, but yourself 16:15:44 how long since local tiles was last changed? must have been forever 16:16:05 not that this change is big either 16:16:19 or "Q: What is the difference between a UI? A: One has the same icon as the other." 16:16:51 Medar: the local gui probably hasn't changed significantly sine it was created 16:17:00 so, like 16:17:00 0.4 16:17:04 state of the art 16:17:18 next time it changes will be for the move to SDL3 16:17:31 mm 16:17:32 (-D) 16:17:34 one day webtiles will catch up to it too 16:17:41 and then it will have to change 16:17:46 mmm 16:18:33 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 16:18:56 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:22:38 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-879-g3afe736: Remove a spurious warning (#10191). 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3afe736daedb 16:24:00 we have -54 net bugs for the last two months 16:25:40 ...was it thanks to me? 16:25:54 or was it thanks to that wheals_ guy? 16:26:38 !flip $(!flip gammafunk) 16:26:39 (╯°□°)╯︵ƃɐɯɯɐɟunʞ︵╯(°□°╯) 16:26:59 heh, nice rotation, Sequell 16:27:08 I need to add reverse mappings so that will work 16:27:20 important work 16:27:26 not like this "mantis" business 16:27:35 I tried to add reversals of flip guys arms, but sequll complained 16:27:42 *sequell 16:27:51 I think it might be my "{" in the hash function 16:29:15 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest8309 16:30:41 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:30:58 !apt fighting 16:30:58 Fighting: Og: 3!, HO: 2, Mi: 2, Gr: 1, Fo: 1, Mf: 1, Ko: 1, Dr: 1, Gh: 1, Te: 0, Hu: 0, Na: 0, Fe: 0, HE: 0, Mu: 0, Op: 0, Ds: 0, Ce: 0, Vp: -1, Ha: -1, DD: -1, VS: -1, Dg: -1, DE: -2*, Tr: -2*, Sp: -2* 16:38:20 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 16:40:02 -!- pblur has joined ##crawl-dev 16:40:14 So, Pakellas is fun 16:41:08 I've always had this conflict where I enjoy using wand (especially hex) effects, but I'm paranoid about running out because they're 'consumable'. 16:41:29 Pakellas relieves that tension, and instead makes your spells feel like god abilities. 16:41:31 It's nice 16:42:59 Also, I feel like playing a caster^Pakellas really achieves a lot of the feel people are asking for when they talk about a piety=combo-meter god, where you burn through all your piety every tough fight 16:43:25 I'm running a DsVM, and I still use my spells, but I use them like special bilities instead of spamming them every fight 16:43:27 -!- owl has quit [Quit: bye.] 16:43:43 Anyways, hope this one sticks 16:44:09 nobody fix any bugs pblur runs into until he officially announces the winner of csdc4 16:44:16 lol 16:44:29 the dev's revenge 16:44:32 !remove Pakellas (pblur). 16:44:34 03wheals * 0.18-a0-513-g0679b0d: Remove Pakellas (pblur). 10(in the future, 38 files, 951+ 557-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0679b0d 16:44:35 I did ask on tavern if someone had tallied the scores, but noone answered.... 16:44:47 I had to take a 3-week hiatus from crawling 16:44:56 well, nobody really added up the week-long bonus points mostly 16:44:57 I think it's you anyhow 16:44:58 i made tiles for pak so obv. its here to stay 16:44:59 i think it's fairly clear i won 16:45:11 ...just like LO 16:45:15 er, not week-long but tournament-long 16:45:23 ......and Dj 16:45:26 You even got an orange name in recognition of your CSDO prowess 16:45:44 *CSDC 16:46:00 it turns out you can't be a dev until you win something 16:46:04 Yup 16:46:19 ontoclasm: and La? 16:46:26 yep 16:46:31 The demonic powers won't share their twisted genius with us inferiors. 16:46:37 and lamia, don't forgot her 16:46:49 i actually can't forget her, because she was removed before i started playing 16:46:55 %git :/lamia 16:46:55 Could not find commit :/lamia (git returned 128) 16:46:57 Same here 16:47:06 %git :/Lamia 16:47:06 07gammafunk02 * 0.17-a0-1851-gf12a9eb: Re-add the Lamia tile for tile_player_tile usage 10(3 months ago, 3 files, 6+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f12a9eb9296c 16:47:22 Also, I cheated and fast-forwarded on your Vp run 16:47:32 *hangs head in shame* 16:47:34 %git fca41778bc9a02845c6ece6f0040bebef9825c78 16:47:34 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-1797-gfca4177: Remove Lamia. 10(1 year, 11 months ago, 14 files, 4+ 103-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fca41778bc9a 16:47:37 hahahahaha 16:47:38 ??lamia 16:47:38 lamia[1/2]: [Crawl development] will clip an Angel's Wings, / Conquer all mysteries by rule and line, / Empty the haunted air, and gnomed mine-- / Unweave a rainbow as it erewhile made / The tender-person'd Lamia melt into a shade. 16:47:42 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:47:49 pblur: it was a sadistic conduct 16:47:55 Yeah 16:48:02 Pretty awful 16:48:12 I wouldn't do that again 16:48:12 same 16:48:19 I'd invent something new and probably meaner 16:48:20 even on Cj i do a fair bit of melee 16:48:25 !hs . cj -log 16:48:26 13. amalloy, XL27 DrCj, T:103889: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/amalloy/morgue-amalloy-20150723-205706.txt 16:48:27 But less obnoxious 16:48:46 Yeah, me too 16:48:54 like 6000 melee attacks apparently 16:49:12 !hs * de recent -log 16:49:13 59936. zighart, XL27 DEFE, T:29853: http://webzook.net/soup/morgue/trunk/zighart/morgue-zighart-20151030-172853.txt 16:49:17 Which is why I was perfectly happy running a VM for my pakellas try-out. 16:49:34 less than 100 melee attacks there, most of them looking accidental 16:49:55 Yeah 16:50:09 Was that a previous challenge or something? 16:50:21 I can't imagine doing that to yourself voluntarily 16:50:36 Oh, that's just the most recent DE win 16:50:38 lol 16:51:12 well the DE high score 16:51:16 "recent" high score 16:51:21 Ah. Gotcha 16:52:14 On the other hand, he channelled 1600 times 16:52:16 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 16:52:21 Which also sounds unpleasant 16:54:43 So what's up with the MP cost on Quick Charge? 16:54:53 It's not the same every time... 16:55:01 ??quick charge 16:55:01 quick charge[1/1]: {Pakellas}' 1* ability. Channels two thirds of your current MP into an evocable, restoring a number of charges proportional to the device's maximum charge, your MP/MMP ratio, and your Evocations skill. 16:55:03 Usually it seems higher just after fighting? 16:55:08 Oh. 2.3 16:55:08 doesn't it cost some % of your mp 16:55:11 2/3 16:55:13 OK 16:55:23 Thx 16:55:49 i wonder why it's proportional to your MP/MMP ratio instead of the amount of MP used up 16:56:29 i'd guess because your MMP also tends upwards with evocations skill and you don't want to double-count that, but it means =MP and such are less useful 16:56:38 That's true 16:56:49 it MMP not counting devices 16:57:10 But you'd think you could just drop the modifier on Evo to avoid double-counting it 16:57:13 don't know how that changes things though 16:57:17 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:57:34 Basically if you train Spc or Invo 16:57:41 Though Invo is useless 16:57:44 Spc isn't\ 16:58:45 seems like quickcharge could ignore your evo skill and instead scale with the amount of MP invested 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:01:22 a pakellas dude is already rewarded for training evo in a lot of other ways, and this would simplify the rules. maybe grunt wants to make sure not to let =MP benefit you for some reason? 17:01:31 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:02:10 it does seem unnecessarily complex atm, but maybe there is a reason 17:02:24 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 17:02:51 you still have to earn the MP if using items so wouldn't think it would be that bad 17:03:20 !tell grunt seems like quickcharge could ignore your evo skill and instead scale with the amount of MP invested: a pakellas dude is already rewarded for training evo in a lot of other ways, and this would simplify the rules 17:03:21 amalloy: OK, I'll let grunt know. 17:05:13 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 17:05:18 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-880-g17fe93d: Remove an extra message. 10(61 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/17fe93d936f5 17:05:18 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-881-g990e6c6: Warn before self-casting a useless invis (#7189). 10(14 seconds ago, 2 files, 6+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/990e6c630e05 17:05:27 alternatively make it scale with invo skill 17:06:34 ribbit (L26 DDFi) ERROR: range check error (-3 / 70) (Depths:5) 17:06:56 Medar: thank past-you for reporting all these bugs so i can my numbers 17:08:05 -!- pintc has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:09:41 wheals: joke? i don't think you can train invo with pak 17:10:20 amalloy: a suggestion that pakellas become not an no-invo god 17:10:54 ah. hm. that seems like it could be interesting. encouraging you to spend a lot of xp in evo+invo 17:12:42 that gets my vote of totally-ignorant approval 17:13:40 -!- agentgt has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:15:20 well, just 5 children of #7071 left 17:15:20 ribbit (L26 DDFi) ERROR: range check error (80 / 80) (Depths:5) 17:15:50 i'll probably work on the 3 related ones tomorrow and then close it since with just 2 children a metabug isn't very useful 17:17:40 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 17:18:00 -!- Guest8309 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:18:56 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:20:43 -!- lvanderpool has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:22:55 %git :/death 17:22:56 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-827-gba75ecd: Don't give XP for reset monsters (10161) 10(5 days ago, 1 file, 5+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ba75ecdd1cc0 17:23:05 %git :/PbD 17:23:05 07chequers02 {gammafunk} * 0.17-a0-1231-gab67786: Rework Powered By Death. 10(8 months ago, 7 files, 68+ 61-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ab677863148e 17:23:17 Did lasty end up nerfing that? 17:23:50 why Lasty_ in particular? do people just assume nerfing is his job these days? :P 17:24:01 I remember that he said he was going to 17:24:07 -!- Wheatmill has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:24:12 And that sparked a forum thread of people objecting 17:24:21 I don't remember if he did though... 17:24:44 I was just going to say it still feels pretty strong. 17:25:05 i think MarvinPA might have but i'm not sure 17:26:52 -!- lvanderpool has quit [Client Quit] 17:27:55 -!- mopl has quit [Client Quit] 17:36:26 -!- MercurialAlchemi has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:38:31 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:44:06 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:49:51 comborobin (L27 HEFE) ASSERT(!actor_at(newpos)) in 'spl-tornado.cc' at line 437 failed. (Zig:24) 17:54:46 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01:13 -!- mizu_no__ has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:05:21 melllvar (L13 DEFE) ERROR: range check error (-1 / 80) (Lair:7) 18:06:45 it was nerfed a bit, iirc 18:07:05 %git fc16dad 18:07:05 07Lasty02 * 0.17-a0-1250-gfc16dad: Tweak new powered by death a bit 10(7 months ago, 2 files, 6+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fc16dad4d35d 18:09:17 I consider pbd strong in early game and against non-dangerous threats 18:09:35 a bit like getting (new) spiny 1 on xl2, where your spines two shot everything until d:4 18:10:05 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-a0-881-g990e6c6 (34) 18:11:08 !apt spc 18:11:08 Could not understand "spc" 18:11:13 !apt spellcasting 18:11:14 Splcast: DE: 3!, Sp: 2, HE: 1, Dr[purple]: 1, Og: 1, VS: 0, Fo: 0, Ds: -1, Ko: -1, Mu: -1, Fe: -1, Na: -1, Op: -1, Vp: -1, Mf: -1, Hu: -1, Dr: -1, Gr: -1, Te: -1, Gh: -2, Dg: -2, DD: -2, Ha: -3, Ce: -3, HO: -3, Mi: -4, Tr: -5* 18:12:02 !apt fire 18:12:03 Fire: Dr[red]: 2!, HO: 1, DE: 1, Dr[mottled]: 1, Dr[pale]: 1, Te: 1, Hu: 0, Ko: 0, Gr: 0, Na: 0, Ha: 0, Dr: 0, Fo: 0, HE: 0, Op: 0, VS: 0, Ds: -1, DD: -1, Dg: -1, Ce: -1, Fe: -1, Vp: -2, Sp: -2, Gh: -2, Dr[white]: -2, Mu: -2, Tr: -3*, Mi: -3*, Mf: -3*, Og: -3* 18:14:57 -!- mizu_no__ has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:18:04 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:19:16 -!- uJellie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:19:54 La getting an upgrade? 18:20:44 i'm considering bumping their magic apts up and weapon apts down slightly 18:20:52 but idk 18:21:02 i am no master of balance 18:21:37 just give them +30 in one skill and -30 in the rest 18:21:40 mmm 18:22:28 also, how do i rebase a branch to master? can i just do "git rebase master" and it'll work? 18:22:40 and not whine at me when i push it? 18:23:37 ontoclasm: if you want to rebase a branch (say, faithful) to be based on latest master, it's just `git rebase master`. but that will refuse to push unless you say pretty-please with `git push -f origin faithful` 18:23:58 okay 18:24:00 make sure your local master is up to date before doing this 18:24:04 yeah 18:29:07 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:31:41 -!- Krakhan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:32:09 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 18:32:39 -!- xnavy_ is now known as xnavy 18:36:05 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:37:46 -!- gressup_ is now known as gressup 18:39:24 maybe someday La will stop being a joke :v 18:40:08 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:40:57 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:42:53 03ontoclasm02 07[faithful] * 0.18-a0-882-g8be9dfa: Lacertilians 10(10 days ago, 11 files, 102+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8be9dfa6e2b5 18:42:53 03ontoclasm02 07[faithful] * 0.18-a0-883-ga96a958: Lacertilian tiles 10(10 days ago, 4 files, 7+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a96a95852f0c 18:42:53 03ontoclasm02 07[faithful] * 0.18-a0-884-gb34e3f0: No wrath for La switching gods 10(10 days ago, 3 files, 33+ 27-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b34e3f0f2ae2 18:42:53 03ontoclasm02 07[faithful] * 0.18-a0-885-gf0fb82a: Fix La desertion messages for Chei and Pak 10(8 days ago, 1 file, 12+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f0fb82a530bc 18:42:53 03ontoclasm02 07[faithful] * 0.18-a0-886-g5eb8a1c: -1 La evo apt 10(8 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5eb8a1c0bb44 18:42:53 03ontoclasm02 07[faithful] * 0.18-a0-887-g1e68d51: La dummy monster description 10(8 days ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1e68d51e4af3 18:42:53 03ontoclasm02 07[faithful] * 0.18-a0-888-g17a9b31: Shift some La apts around 10(14 minutes ago, 2 files, 20+ 20-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/17a9b3159d6f 18:43:16 you shouldn't force-push if the branch is already up in the repo though 18:43:24 o-oh 18:43:27 but too late now i guess :P 18:43:31 sorry 18:43:58 eh 18:44:10 once the branch is public and other people might have pulled it, you can't really rebase and force-push without making things awkward for anyone else who's pulled 18:44:25 yeah 18:44:45 give them 5 invo :D 18:44:55 my bad, i suck 18:45:21 well, i know not to do it again i guess >.> 18:45:40 not the end of the world, git is confusing and complicated :P 18:46:39 but yeah for public branches you should just merge in master, which makes the history not as nice and clean but doesn't cause problems for others who have pulled 18:47:38 okay 18:48:04 (so just "git merge master" while on your branch, then push should do the trick) 18:48:09 mm 18:50:35 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 18:52:30 -!- Wheatmill has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:07 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:00:27 -!- Cerpin has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:01:23 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 19:03:52 melllvar (L14 DEFE) ERROR: range check error (70 / 70) (Orc:1) 19:04:24 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:07:19 -!- GBudee has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:07:25 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:07:49 -!- wheals_ has quit [Client Quit] 19:08:51 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:08:58 -!- wheals has quit [Disconnected by services] 19:09:00 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals 19:09:05 -!- Nyvrem has quit [Client Quit] 19:09:07 -!- Dixie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:11:05 or just alias doit git commit -am "DEAL WITH IT" && git push --force 19:11:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 19:12:51 -!- Dixie has joined ##crawl-dev 19:14:16 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:16:10 Porcubot (L17 DsFi) ERROR: range check error (-1 / 70) (Bazaar) 19:23:10 Porcubot (L17 DsFi) ERROR: range check error (-1 / 70) (Shoals:2) 19:25:11 -!- Cerpin has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:26:59 melllvar (L14 DEFE) ERROR: range check error (70 / 70) (Orc:1) 19:28:11 indifferent monsters attack non-indifferent monsters but not the player or other indifferent monsters 19:28:24 is there a monster state which just attacks everything? 19:28:31 or 'everything but monsters in this state' 19:28:35 frenzied 19:28:53 -!- GauHelldragon2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:29:13 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 19:29:53 or i guess just insane? 19:29:59 it looks like frenzied is berserk+insane 19:30:41 no spells then right? 19:33:59 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:34:27 -!- GauHelldragon2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:38:04 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 19:43:21 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:43:55 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:47:28 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 19:49:22 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:51:00 -!- tollymain has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:55:55 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:56:02 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 19:57:16 and this is why we're going to reimplement PleasingFungus from scratch. 19:57:32 Grunt: did you see my late-night delirious ravings wrt the swamp worm crisis 19:57:48 I have not 19:57:49 * Grunt scrolls up 19:58:03 about 1 AM PST, idk what time zone you're in 19:58:12 or the other pacific time zone. I forget which the right term is. 19:58:44 yeah, found it 19:58:55 (also I'm in M[S|D]T) 19:59:00 ! 19:59:01 exotic... 19:59:11 what is this [S|D] junk. syntax not recognized 19:59:18 gotta be either regexes or globbing 19:59:19 should I just say MT 19:59:20 <.< 19:59:23 amalloy: it's a perfectly regular way to express that concept... 19:59:29 ....... 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:13 -!- WorkSight has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20:00:13 PleasingFungus: the major problem I have with the submerging effect is disturbances 20:00:27 combine your idea with removing the disturbance effect 20:00:34 one-time-only trapdoor spider-esque ambush 20:00:36 yes 20:00:40 my thought exactly 20:00:50 good. now implement it. <.< 20:01:33 FR make trapdoor spiders never re-bury themselves when the player can see them 20:02:09 i have seen them burst out from their hiding place, asleep, and then get back underground. or something like that 20:02:56 they're not supposed to 20:02:59 also, hm 20:03:04 -!- pblur has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:03:09 we have three submerging monsters left, two of which don't really. 20:03:51 PleasingFungus: do they not submerge when the player can see them, or when they know about the player? 20:04:00 there's a difference, if you're stealthy 20:04:50 I'm investigating. 20:05:08 heh, there's code to make sure that entrancing monsters don't submerge. 20:05:29 right, my trapdoor siren design 20:05:35 ! 20:06:02 // Trapdoor spiders sometime hide if they can't see their foe. 20:06:03 // (but friendly trapdoor spiders won't hide at all, for sanity's sake.) 20:07:09 trapdoor spiders have some special cases to make them lurk more often than other monsters. 20:07:38 -!- Kelb has joined ##crawl-dev 20:07:49 hm, good dead code here 20:08:02 someone could really gut a lot of submerge-related code 20:08:27 sorry, I only do + 20:09:23 it does complicate rewriting things, but I get around that by inserting shortcut functions 20:09:31 %git 8e24558f6857 20:09:31 07gammafunk02 * 0.18-a0-75-g8e24558: Remove columnise-credits.pl 10(6 weeks ago, 2 files, 0+ 132-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8e24558f6857 20:09:42 You gut the submerge-related code like a fish!!!! 20:09:54 ??goodsequell[worm 20:09:54 oh, removing perl code? 20:09:55 goodsequell[5/17]: work ~ worm[1/3]: A slow-moving monster easy to avoid and outrun. Being killed by it is the definition of ignominy. 20:10:01 yeah I'll remove any perl code 20:10:05 dang... 20:10:40 work?? 20:10:41 A slow-moving monster easy to avoid and outrun. Being killed by it is the definition of ignominy. 20:10:43 nice 20:11:03 ??ugh 20:11:04 I don't have a page labeled ugh in my learndb. Did you mean: gh, ugt. 20:11:05 :( 20:11:09 -!- cang has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:11:09 ??ugt 20:11:10 ugt[1/1]: http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html 20:11:13 ???? 20:11:33 ?? ? ??? 20:11:33 I don't have a page labeled ?_??? in my learndb. 20:11:36 ?? ? ? 20:11:37 I don't have a page labeled ?_? in my learndb. 20:11:39 ?? . . 20:11:40 I don't have a page labeled ._. in my learndb. 20:11:44 ?? o o 20:11:45 I don't have a page labeled o_o in my learndb. 20:11:48 !flip ?? ? ? 20:11:49 (╯°□°)╯︵¿ ¿ ¿¿ 20:11:53 ?? > > 20:11:54 I don't have a page labeled >_> in my learndb. 20:11:59 !flip (╯°□°)╯ 20:12:00 (╯°□°)╯︵╯(°□°╯) 20:12:02 ?? < < 20:12:03 I don't have a page labeled <_< in my learndb. 20:12:19 I also wonder about how amphibious-izing swamp worms is going to affect vaults 20:12:33 not too much, I should think 20:12:37 it's something I had a note to check for before doing it myself (but you beat me to it, of course) 20:12:42 let's listen for the screams of anguished players and respond based on that 20:12:47 sounds good 20:12:51 I can't recall any vault that relied on that in any specific sense 20:12:54 learn add devteam 20:15:39 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:21:45 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:21:57 Grunt: do we want to remove strange disturbances for trapdoor spiders as well, or just swamp worms? 20:22:46 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:22:56 do... trapdoor spiders make strange disturbances...? 20:23:22 <|amethyst> probably if they hide in water anyway 20:23:23 In clouds or water 20:23:25 yes 20:23:28 hm 20:23:42 my feeling is to remove those 20:23:48 that does seem silly 20:23:58 -!- Panthos has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:25:21 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:25:25 hm 20:25:27 hmmm 20:27:18 ok, this looks like it's actually very simple. 20:30:45 wow, swamp worms look silly on land... 20:30:46 hm 20:32:26 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:33:19 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-882-g3043b20: Turn swamp worms into ambush predators 10(58 seconds ago, 2 files, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3043b207f486 20:33:19 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-883-gcc484a0: Re-remove Swamp's disturbances 10(42 seconds ago, 2 files, 5+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cc484a050a62 20:34:16 oh I guess they need a new tile, yeah 20:34:16 !ambush PleasingFungus 20:34:22 FR: bring back 20:34:24 ??oldswamp 20:34:24 i doubt monster::wants_submerge is every going to be true 20:34:25 oldswamp[1/1]: The swamp worm uses the watery terrain to its advantage. The swamp worm bites you! * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * 20:34:26 ^ 20:34:27 they look fine on console, because console is superior 20:34:31 ever 20:34:44 wheals: what about lost souls 20:34:53 the what now 20:34:56 hm 20:34:58 those submerge? 20:34:58 or tentacle segments 20:35:00 those are 20:35:09 the only two remaining submerging monsters, other than trapdoor spiders & swamp worms 20:35:25 the name mons_landlubbers_in_reach looks suspicious in those cases 20:35:27 I guess lost souls probalby have landlubbers in reach 20:35:30 weird, is that what they do when they "disappear from this world"? 20:35:32 but tentacle segments, maybe? 20:35:49 honestly I'm not sure what lost souls are supposed to be about in general 20:36:02 they're like regular souls, but lost 20:36:19 !source _lost_soul_teleport 20:36:20 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-abil.cc#l826 20:36:23 gammafunk: ^ 20:36:27 (so, no) 20:36:33 I am not clear on whether lost souls ever actually submerge 20:36:39 but they're flagged for it 20:36:56 hm, maybe they start submerged. 20:36:59 the submerging code is hidden from my understanding 20:37:01 so to speak 20:37:05 heh 20:39:38 ?/LOW HITPOINT WARNING 20:39:39 Matching entries (2): emergency_evasive_maneuvers[1]: Ouch! That really hurt! You are engulfed in roaring flames. * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * For a moment, your mind becomes perfectly clear! You break out of your daze! | oldswamp[1]: The swamp worm uses the watery terrain to its advantage. The swamp worm bites you! * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * 20:40:20 ?/don't die 20:40:21 Matching entries (3): advice[2] | order[2] | wonderscumming[1] 20:41:05 wheals: anyway, you're probably right 20:41:06 -!- bleak has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:41:18 I'd want to check krakens to be sure 20:41:27 but like I said, there is a lot of submerging code that can be gutted. 20:41:31 ...like a fish. 20:42:28 is ther ean up to date learndb html dump 20:42:46 ??learndb 20:42:47 learndb[1/9]: http://lookupdb.guy.ht/ for a convenient online interface for the learndb. Thank mrwooster! Go to https://loom.shalott.org/learndb to see all the entries on one page. 20:42:49 ^ 20:42:53 the second link 20:42:53 that is 20:44:46 oh 20:44:48 gammafunk 20:44:50 I have great news 20:44:51 about 20:44:54 the corpse tile contest!!! 20:44:59 ?? ? ? 20:45:00 I don't have a page labeled ?_? in my learndb. 20:45:01 you can't redeem yourself! 20:45:08 !flip redemption 20:45:09 but 20:45:09 (╯°□°)╯︵uoᴉʇdɯǝpǝɹ 20:45:10 but... 20:45:19 %git 63baae8fa0f5f97f21436f9dfd908ae3e212642d 20:45:19 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-4041-g63baae8: Add a lava worm corpse tile (9492) 10(10 months ago, 2 files, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/63baae8fa0f5 20:45:27 %git af9c773e796cefc7a2c94a3ba07f23139ecb07ef 20:45:28 07reaverb02 * 0.15-a0-1937-gaf9c773: Remove Lava Worms 10(1 year, 5 months ago, 11 files, 7+ 37-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/af9c773e796c 20:45:34 TECHNICALLY.... 20:45:49 thanks to my inability to keep crawl monster names straight... 20:46:14 that's actually even worse 20:46:29 haha 20:46:42 also I phrased it as "this corpse tile" so I'm still owned. 20:48:47 uggggh 20:48:52 ? 20:48:59 now i have to draw a worm 20:49:06 !flip PleasingFungus 20:49:07 (╯°□°)╯︵snƃunℲƃuᴉsɐǝlԀ 20:49:13 ontoclasm: hey 20:49:14 hey 20:49:16 check this out 20:49:37 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 20:49:38 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:49:48 wait for it... 20:50:02 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest47664 20:50:28 okay compiling is taking too long, don't wait for it. whatever. fine. 20:50:46 here, have a secret instead 20:50:50 ??keskitalo 20:50:50 eino[1/4]: Crawler with a rather long history, made many vaults and maintains trunk binaries. Also known as evktalo and Keskitalo. Web site at http://crawl.develz.org/trunk 20:50:51 ??keskitalo[2 20:50:51 keskitalo[2/2]: <+Keskitalo> Hit elephant with the ankus, the elephant is instantly killed and the ankus is charged up. Charged up ankus can shoot elephants as projectiles. 20:50:59 powerful secret entries 20:50:59 mm 20:51:17 !learn mv keskitalo[2 eino[5 20:51:17 keskitalo[2] -> eino[5/5]: <+Keskitalo> Hit elephant with the ankus, the elephant is instantly killed and the ankus is charged up. Charged up ankus can shoot elephants as projectiles. 20:52:55 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:53:15 ??eino[2 20:53:15 eino[2/5]: Funny abreviations in Finnish: NaPa (belly button), NaSu (Piglet in Winnie the Pooh), HuPa (some jolly fun), KoHu (onomatopoetic reaction to a scandal), MiSu (a hot chick, except feline instead of poultry), KeHu (compliment) 20:53:21 ??eino[3 20:53:22 eino[3/5]: <+Keskitalo> Enchanted rods recharge at a really fast pace.. 20:53:25 ??eino[4 20:53:25 eino[4/5]: Doubled GDR from body armour. 20:54:19 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-884-gb6cfd45: Add a land tile for swamp worms 10(63 seconds ago, 4 files, 5+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b6cfd45b173d 20:54:53 ontoclasm: 90% of the time spent on that was getting the right one to be named _water and the other one not to be 20:54:56 very embarassing 20:55:00 hah 20:55:09 !beer PleasingFungus 20:55:10 * Sequell slides a mug of root beer down the bar to PleasingFungus, courtesy of ontoclasm. 20:55:22 :) 20:55:26 the bottom should probably be flatter, maybe 20:55:28 Grunt: perhaps the device surge ability description should mention more prominently that it's an instant action 20:55:28 idk 20:55:46 Grunt: eg "Instantly ready a device surge..." 20:57:51 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 21:00:01 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:05:35 ugh 21:05:41 ??goodsequell[ugh 21:05:42 goodsequell[9/17]: ugh ~ gh ~ ghoul[1/4]: 21:06:05 the monster intelligence learndb entry is 11 entries long and all about the pre-revision intelligence system. I'm too tired to correct all of this... 21:06:08 only got the first three 21:06:37 which, arguably, is worse than nothing 21:07:15 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:07:16 the roguelike thread on SA is pretty big on crawl 21:07:17 !learn add monster_intelligence[4 The following entries are out-of-date; please correct them if you have the energy. 21:07:18 monster intelligence[4/12]: The following entries are out-of-date; please correct them if you have the energy. 21:07:32 ontoclasm: ya, I noticed. it was charming. 21:09:42 -!- Panthos_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:10:50 there's no accounting for taste 21:13:48 -!- Guest47664 is now known as debo 21:14:02 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:15:52 -!- xtwv has quit [Quit: c] 21:20:29 ??monster intelligence[1 21:20:30 monster intelligence[1/12]: From worst to best: Brainless, Animal, Human. This has many effects on monster behaviour, most notably pursuing you longer, pathfinding better, being more wary of traps/clouds and moving in ways that inconviences you more. 21:20:32 ??monster intelligence[2 21:20:32 monster intelligence[2/12]: Stealth: As intelligence increases: *Forgets about you slower if you leave the level. *Remembers you longer if you leave LoS *Passes in-LoS stealth checks better. Also, Human are better at guessing the location of an invisible player, and Animal- relaxes their guard faster when wandering with you as their target. 21:20:39 where is this thread 21:20:49 I have to pay to even search, don't I 21:20:52 ??monster intelligence[3 21:20:53 monster intelligence[3/12]: Helping out friends: Human/Animal-intelligence monsters move out of the way if further along the same 8-way line from the player there is a same-genus monster with a ranged attack, or a same-genus monster immediately behind them with a melee attack. 21:21:03 ??monster intelligence[5 21:21:03 monster intelligence[5/12]: Pathfinding: Smarter monsters have longer pathfinding range - 2 for plant, 4 for insect/reptile, 5 for animal, 8 for normal, infinite for high. (+= 4 for cling, += 3 for native to branch, +1 for blood scent, *5 for ash penance, *5 for mark.) Animal- doesn't pathfind around shallow water it would flounder in. Animal+ if it can't pathfind to you and 21:21:30 ??monster intelligence[6 21:21:30 monster intelligence[6/12]: Ranged AI: Normal+ that has ranged attack (and that isn't 'fighter' tagged except for centaur warriors and yaktaur captains), when you leave their LoS, will 9/10 (19/20 for High) move to the position that maximizes their distance from you instead of directly towards you. 21:22:14 gammafunk: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3563643 21:22:30 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:23:00 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:23:09 thank you, ontogoogle 21:23:57 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 21:25:34 -!- fruitloops7 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:27:04 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:38:35 -!- gressup has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:44:36 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:47:56 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 43.0.1/20151216175450]] 21:50:21 melllvar (L18 DEFE) ERROR: range check error (-1 / 70) (Spider:4) 21:52:02 -!- Cerpin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:53:10 -!- eb has quit [] 21:57:48 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 21:59:07 -!- fruitloops7 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:56 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:10:39 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 22:11:25 -!- molotove has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:11:38 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 22:11:56 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:25:29 -!- beatdown has quit [Quit: jmIrc destroyed by the OS] 22:30:41 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:32:58 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 22:40:18 http://puu.sh/m4m4j/a414762a58.png 22:40:32 large abomination 1 sketch :o 22:44:59 -!- Sorbius has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:47:49 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:52:15 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:53:21 http://puu.sh/m4mJ3/e70cae2df5.png 22:54:28 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:55:31 selfportrait.png 22:56:16 * CanOfWorms is horribly burned! 22:56:16 * Sequell also is horribly burned! 22:58:02 poor Sizzell 22:58:05 poor Sequell too 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:05:30 poor Cheibriados 23:09:20 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:10:35 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:27:15 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:31:40 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:32:35 -!- Dixie has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:37:19 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 23:37:33 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:38:32 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 23:41:32 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:48:00 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:53:36 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]