00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:06:24 -!- Zekka is now known as Zeqquora 00:17:04 -!- donblas has joined ##crawl-dev 00:17:11 morning everyone 00:17:19 so I have good news and bad news on the art front 00:17:25 https://gist.github.com/chamons/8a74a9cb2984d7b26f9d 00:17:40 good news, I'm through was the audit and I think i've heard from most of the people I'm going to hear from 00:17:53 you haven't heard from roctavian? 00:18:13 correct 00:18:21 only 57% of the tiles are currently clear 00:18:35 roctavian being the giant chunk 00:18:38 i'll try and contact him, he's a dev 00:18:47 (and an SA goon) 00:18:55 white_noise / dd / Bloax being huge as well 00:19:16 so the numbers are inflated, because my list includes any file add/removed/deleted 00:19:30 yeah, i doubt you'll find w_n or dd 00:19:38 i err on the side of caution 00:19:39 bloax is around occasionally, though 00:19:55 i have a script to generated a "release" of the files copied over 00:20:01 he's still banned from irc, yes? 00:20:10 i'd rather wait and include roctavian's if at all possible 00:20:36 i'll send him an SA message 00:21:49 shall i give him your email? 00:21:56 yes please 00:22:00 give anyone on that list my e-mail 00:22:15 give anyone on the https://github.com/crawl/tiles/blob/master/COMMITS_TO_HANDLE.txt my e-mail actually :) 00:22:19 i've pinged them all at least once 00:22:22 ...@xamarin.com ? 00:22:27 gmail.com 00:22:28 please 00:22:31 xamarin is my wokr 00:22:36 ok 00:22:38 i need to fix that darn git 00:23:05 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:23:23 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:25:03 git config user.email "your_email@example.com" 00:25:19 for changing just a single checkout's settings 00:25:29 nice, so new commits should land w/ right e-mail 00:26:05 thanks ontoclasm i'll check in tomorrow and see where we are 00:26:24 -!- donblas has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:26:35 -!- Jessika has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:30:24 hmmmmm 00:30:40 actually, i wonder if i asked roc this before and have irc logs 00:33:18 !flip 00:33:19 (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ︵┻━┻ 00:33:22 !flip PleasingFungus 00:33:23 (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ︵ԀlǝɐsᴉuƃℲnuƃns 00:33:29 !flip !flip 00:33:30 (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ︵¡ɟlᴉd 00:33:35 love that face 00:33:36 why is this a thing 00:33:37 that's wrong 00:33:42 yeah it's a bit off 00:33:43 it should be rotating 180 degrees 00:33:45 it's not rev 00:33:45 <.< 00:33:48 !cmd !flip 00:33:48 Command: !flip => .echo (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ︵$(map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) (reverse ${*:-┻━┻})) 00:34:51 .echo $(reverse PleasingFungus) 00:34:51 sugnuFgnisaelP 00:34:57 ...oh 00:35:16 ah 00:35:16 so 00:35:16 that's... 00:35:20 all I should need to do is... 00:35:43 !cmd !flip !flip => .echo (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ︵$(map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) ${*:-┻━┻}) 00:35:44 Redefined command: !flip => !flip => .echo (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ︵$(map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) ${*:-┻━┻}) 00:35:47 !flip gammafunk 00:35:48 Bad command (recursive): !flip 00:35:56 meep 00:36:28 aren't all crawl-dev chats logged 00:36:31 somewhere 00:36:35 ??crawl-dev 00:36:35 ##crawl-dev[1/1]: The IRC channel for Crawl development and design. Many but not all devs frequent the channel. To join, "/join ##crawl-dev". Logs are at http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ . 00:36:43 ya 00:36:43 yes 00:36:48 !cmd !flip .echo (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ︵$(map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) (reverse ${*:-┻━┻})) 00:36:49 Redefined command: !flip => .echo (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ︵$(map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) (reverse ${*:-┻━┻})) 00:36:53 !flip gammafunk 00:36:53 (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ︵ƃɐɯɯɐɟnuʞ 00:36:58 at least I can put it back 00:36:58 so 00:37:08 !cmd !flip .echo (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ︵$(map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) ${*:-┻━┻}) 00:37:09 Redefined command: !flip => .echo (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ︵$(map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) ${*:-┻━┻}) 00:37:12 !flip gammafunk 00:37:12 (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ︵ʞunɟɐɯɯɐƃ 00:37:15 good! 00:37:15 good 00:37:16 nice! 00:37:18 !flip Grunt 00:37:19 (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ︵ʇunɹפ 00:37:25 !flip (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ︵ʇunɹפ 00:37:25 (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ︵פɹunʇ︵ノ(ಠ益ಠノ) 00:37:30 some upside down chars are weird 00:37:32 people can modify 00:37:38 !fn flipcharhash1 00:37:38 !fn flipcharhash1 () $(hash "!" "¡" '"' ",," "&" "⅋" "'" "," "(" ")" ")" "(" "," "'" "." "˙" "1" "Ɩ" "2" "ᄅ" "3" "Ɛ" "4" "ㄣ" "5" "ϛ" "6" "9" "7" "ㄥ" "8" "8" "9" "6" "<" ">" ">" "<" "?" "¿" "A" "∀" "B" "q" "C" "Ɔ" "D" "p" "E" "Ǝ" "F" "Ⅎ" "G" "פ" "J" "ſ" "L" "˥" "M" "W" "P" "Ԁ" "R" "ɹ") 00:37:40 !fn flipcharhash2 00:37:41 !fn flipcharhash2 () $(hash "T" "┴" "U" "∩" "V" "Λ" "W" "M" "Y" "⅄" "[" "]" "]" "[" "_" "‾" "`" "," "a" "ɐ" "b" "q" "c" "ɔ" "d" "p" "e" "ǝ" "f" "ɟ" "g" "ƃ" "h" "ɥ" "i" "ᴉ" "j" "ɾ" "k" "ʞ" "l" "l" "m" "ɯ" "n" "u" "p" "d" "q" "b" "r" "ɹ" "t" "ʇ" "u" "n" "v" "ʌ" "w" "ʍ" "y" "ʎ" "z" "z" "{" "}" "}" "{") 00:37:45 is that... hebrew? 00:37:46 if they see better ones 00:37:49 !flip !flip 00:37:50 (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ︵dᴉlɟ¡ 00:37:52 also that "8" could be removed 00:38:18 (╯°□°)╯ 00:38:22 there's that face if people like it more 00:38:58 !cmd !flip .echo (╯°□°)╯︵$(map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) ${*:-┻━┻}) 00:39:00 Redefined command: !flip => .echo (╯°□°)╯︵$(map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) ${*:-┻━┻}) 00:39:03 !flip 00:39:04 oh but 00:39:04 (╯°□°)╯︵┻━┻ 00:39:07 is this broken since 00:39:09 !flip this is wrong 00:39:10 (╯°□°)╯︵sᴉɥʇ sᴉ ƃuoɹʍ 00:39:14 yep 00:39:14 rip 00:39:34 !flip singleword 00:39:34 (╯°□°)╯︵pɹoʍǝlƃuᴉs 00:39:40 huh 00:39:41 I need to rev the list, not the elements 00:39:53 I can't deal with all those parens 00:39:54 so that previous reverse should be some other thing 00:40:02 .echo $(reverse (list this stuff)) 00:40:03 stuff this 00:40:07 !cmd !flip .echo (╯°□°)╯︵$(map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) ${*:-┻━┻}) 00:40:08 ...huh 00:40:09 Redefined command: !flip => .echo (╯°□°)╯︵$(map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) ${*:-┻━┻}) 00:40:35 hm 00:40:35 so 00:40:45 !cmd !flip .echo (╯°□°)╯︵$(map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) (reverse (list ${*:-┻━┻}))) 00:40:46 Redefined command: !flip => .echo (╯°□°)╯︵$(map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) (reverse (list ${*:-┻━┻}))) 00:40:49 !flip multiple words 00:40:50 (╯°□°)╯︵spɹoʍǝldᴉʇlnɯ 00:40:53 close 00:40:57 yeah that borks the list 00:41:03 some hi level crawl dev happening right now 00:41:06 yes 00:41:26 !cmd !flip .echo (╯°□°)╯︵$(map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) ${*:-┻━┻}) 00:41:27 Redefined command: !flip => .echo (╯°□°)╯︵$(map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) ${*:-┻━┻}) 00:41:49 Gentleman, you can't code in here! This is the dev channel! 00:42:03 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 00:42:34 development is strictly verboten 00:42:58 -!- Taq has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:43:09 -!- Zeqquora is now known as Zekka 00:43:31 !flip sparkwasps aren't web immune 00:43:32 (╯°□°)╯︵sdsɐʍʞɹɐds ʇ,uǝɹɐ qǝʍ ǝunɯɯᴉ 00:44:39 !flip $(!always blame Grunt) 00:44:40 (╯°□°)╯︵¡פq∀ ¡sʎɐʍl∀-∀ ¡ǝɯɐlq-q ¡ʇunɹפ-פ sʎɐʍl∀ ǝɯɐlq ¡ʇunɹפ S⅄∀M˥∀ ƎW∀˥q ¡┴N∩ɹפ 00:44:55 !flip racecar 00:44:56 (╯°□°)╯︵ɹɐɔǝɔɐɹ 00:45:33 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:45:44 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:47:37 hey 00:47:38 gammafunk 00:47:41 you're a su expert, right 00:48:01 you want to fight me? 00:48:58 (ง͡°□°)ง͡ 00:49:13 so 00:49:16 the recall spell still exists 00:49:20 which I'd forgotten about until just now 00:49:25 ...yes 00:49:31 ...and...? 00:49:33 do you ever use it 00:49:36 yes 00:49:45 huh! 00:49:56 because if you are here: @ 00:50:05 and summons are here: ..................XXX 00:50:18 sometimes it's nice to be like this: X@XX 00:50:19 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:50:21 sure 00:50:25 that's cool. 00:51:10 it's like blink, you're not using it a lot, but when you'd like to have all the stuff you spent all that mp on back real fast 00:51:16 it's very handy 00:51:27 like blink in that it's a handy low-level spell 00:51:57 was thinking about it in terms of recalling from across a level, like yred or beogh's recall - obviously not so relevant for summons 00:52:07 unless you just teleported and really need your pals back I guess 00:52:19 siiigh 00:52:25 yeah teleports are another good use for recall with summoners 00:52:27 i found the conversation i was thinking of 00:52:50 I wanted to get it for pak as well actually 00:52:55 i and roc and CoW talking about licenses 00:52:59 never actually did though 00:53:11 and i asked CoW but not roc :/ 00:53:21 !seen roctavian 00:53:21 I last saw roctavian at Sat Sep 12 20:17:46 2015 UTC (14w 9h 35m 34s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: Page closed'. 00:53:28 rip 00:53:31 poor roctavian :( 00:53:37 ??roctavian 00:53:37 roctavian[1/1]: never mind Ru; roctavian *is* the great annihilating truth 00:53:50 PleasingFungus: it functions rather differently for perma-allies, but even then you use it in a similar fashing 00:53:53 *fashion 00:53:57 (I wonder if anyone else remembers the context of that comment) 00:53:59 (I certainly do) 00:54:06 I don't! 00:54:08 well, he's posted on SA in the past two weeks so presumably he's alive?? 00:54:39 I just killed him. 00:54:42 He's dead now. 00:54:52 rip... 00:54:53 ah but I just revived him 00:55:25 hm. do we have any sort of policy on whether to describe monsters' spells on the monster description itself 00:55:28 cast that one spell...bjrorgr...borjgeer....norbjorgbrjer 00:55:33 ...annihilated by a pleasing fungus (a +0 halberd) 00:55:37 it seems a little redundant with the spell descriptions 00:55:44 now that they're trivially accessible from within the monster 00:56:06 yeah probably that's not necessary unless it's really strongly connected with the flavor 00:57:00 bring back clumsy half-descriptions of their ac/ev 00:57:00 !lg * recent !boring !experimental s=cls% 00:57:12 891900 games for * (recent !boring !experimental): 138609x Fighter (15.54%), 79612x Berserker (8.93%), 55691x Transmuter (6.24%), 54062x Gladiator (6.06%), 53898x Monk (6.04%), 43791x Conjurer (4.91%), 43171x Wizard (4.84%), 40413x Fire Elementalist (4.53%), 39780x Abyssal Knight (4.46%), 34892x Enchanter (3.91%), 34833x Assassin (3.91%), 30516x Skald (3.42%), 29969x Chaos Knight (3.36%), 29195x H... 00:57:17 specifically thinking about entropy weavers 00:57:25 ontoclasm: those were discouraged even before ac/ev were displayed! 00:57:29 *monster ac/ev 00:57:33 *was 00:57:35 fuck 00:57:35 !lg * recent !boring !experimental s=cls% o=-% 00:57:41 891906 games for * (recent !boring !experimental): Jester (0.00%), 2x Death Knight (0.00%), 3x Healer (0.00%), 8447x Arcane Marksman (0.95%), 13474x Artificer (1.51%), 14930x Warper (1.67%), 16228x Summoner (1.82%), 16271x Venom Mage (1.82%), 16857x Air Elementalist (1.89%), 22878x Necromancer (2.57%), 23328x Ice Elementalist (2.62%), 24081x Earth Elementalist (2.70%), 26969x Wanderer (3.02%), 291... 00:58:39 His enormous body seems like it would be easily struck by your attacks, but looks like it would remain uninjured by all but the strongest of them. 00:59:02 this is... 00:59:04 stone giants? 00:59:07 antaeus 00:59:09 antaeus 00:59:10 ah 00:59:12 right 00:59:28 well I think it's ok to make indirect references like that, perhaps that particular wording isn't good 00:59:31 I think that might have been my first commit 00:59:34 removing that 01:00:02 Like a big DEMON (not a titan) made of ice 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:04 can't remember how to get git log to use the mailmap 01:00:09 well yeah, "he's super tough" is fine 01:00:15 you'd expect him to be strong 01:01:03 ontoclasm: sure, but it's ok to get creative in how you indicate strength, just with good prose 01:01:12 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:01:19 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-847-gf95877c: Remove an outdated description of entropy weave 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f95877c9b582 01:01:24 at least, there's no need to be completely generic 01:01:49 !genericise gammafunk 01:02:26 I guess for weavers you could just mention how they know "corrosive magic" in some suitable fashion 01:02:38 if you wanted to, and if there's a nice way of describing that 01:02:42 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-846-g91b95b1 (34) 01:02:46 -!- FireSight has quit [] 01:03:12 * PleasingFungus shrugs. 01:03:18 I don't feel strongly. 01:03:22 !flip $(!flip Grunt) 01:03:23 (╯°□°)╯︵פɹunʇ︵╯(°□°╯) 01:03:36 Someone pointed out that the old description was wrong, and then I realized, hey, do we need the duplicate at all? 01:04:32 !flip $(!flip $(!flip)) 01:04:33 (╯°□°)╯︵(╯°□°)╯︵┻━┻︵╯(°□°╯) 01:04:49 confusing 01:04:50 put! that table! down! 01:04:56 tables are for closers 01:05:47 -!- mekhami has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:05:50 oh man, "improve confused tree behavior" 01:05:50 we need a thing to see if a thing is a deng list 01:05:53 that was a good commit name 01:06:29 anyway, turns out I was wrong. my first commit only murdered fannar's autobio 01:06:29 ontoclasm: oh, I was thinking about this the other day, but I wonder how hard it would be to get proper tiles indicators for trees that are awakened 01:06:33 i.e. from awaken forest 01:06:46 isn't it "all of them"? 01:06:48 and something for console shouldn't be too hard to rig up as well 01:06:55 well yes but how do you know 01:06:55 would be cool if you just had an alternate tree sprite 01:06:55 hm 01:06:58 when they're awakened 01:07:00 not a corner thing 01:07:12 trees are hard to draw >.> 01:07:15 haha 01:07:21 could have an overlay 01:07:22 red for anger 01:07:28 on the whole tile, I guess 01:07:35 no...you just...like...*waves hands*...a bit..right? 01:07:42 wouldn't be as clear on the autumn trees, but they're rarely awakened 01:07:44 %git fbd3073f5ed150fc4b381551cd083230c451f8d1 01:07:44 07PleasingFungus02 {gammafunk} * 0.14-a0-3420-gfbd3073: Revised monster descriptions 10(1 year, 9 months ago, 1 file, 116+ 126-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fbd3073f5ed1 01:07:50 this is the one I was thinking of 01:07:54 and you committed it, ha! 01:08:01 my greatest mistake 01:08:04 -!- zxc1 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:09:08 -!- zxc has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:09:14 hm 01:09:16 @??shadow imp 01:09:16 shadow imp (065) | Spd: 10 | HD: 2 | HP: 6-16 | AC/EV: 3/11 | Dam: 6 | 05demonic, 10doors, unholy, see invisible | Res: 06magic(10), 02cold++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 11 | Sp: pain (d14) [06!sil] | Sz: little | Int: human. 01:09:30 I guess they still have an affinity for the necromantic arts 01:09:31 barely 01:10:27 Grunt: if I could get the length of $* I could fix it 01:10:42 .echo ${length (list I wonder if this exists)} 01:10:43 ${length (list I wonder if this exists)} 01:10:50 but if you call (length) with a word it gives you the length of the of the string 01:10:59 .echo $(length (list I wonder if I can use the right delimeters)) 01:10:59 9 01:11:01 ^ 01:11:08 no watch 01:11:17 .echo $(length (list fun)) 01:11:17 1 01:11:19 hrm 01:11:20 !send gammafunk a smartwatch 01:11:21 Sending a smartwatch to gammafunk. 01:11:35 that's not right! 01:11:35 maybe it is 01:11:40 it's just that (reverse) 01:11:45 is special-casey 01:11:50 !cmd !flip 01:11:50 Command: !flip => .echo (╯°□°)╯︵$(map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) ${*:-┻━┻}) 01:11:55 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:13:49 -!- simmarine_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:14:08 .echo (╯°□°)╯︵$(let (q ${*:-┻━┻}) (map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) (if (> (length $q) 1) (reverse $q) $q)) 01:14:08 (╯°□°)╯︵$(let (q ${*:-┻━┻}) (map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< ${c} T) (lookup ${c} (flipcharhash1)) (lookup ${c} (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" ${w}))))) (if (> (length ${q}) 1) (reverse ${q}) ${q})) 01:14:12 !flip 01:14:13 (╯°□°)╯︵┻━┻ 01:14:16 !flip PleasingFungus 01:14:17 (╯°□°)╯︵snƃunℲƃuᴉsɐǝlԀ 01:14:20 !flip PleasingFungus is dumb 01:14:21 (╯°□°)╯︵snƃunℲƃuᴉsɐǝlԀ sᴉ qɯnp 01:14:32 nope 01:14:35 or 01:14:36 yep? 01:14:39 I don't even know anymore 01:14:39 -!- zxc1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:15:59 PleasingFungus: nice red title 01:16:23 isn't it, though! 01:16:42 I wasn't so hot on it at first, but it's really growing on me. 01:16:59 .echo (> (length (list hi there) 1)) 01:16:59 (> (length (list hi there) 1)) 01:17:04 .echo $(> (length (list hi there) 1)) 01:17:05 true 01:17:19 the best part is it coincidentally matches that one avatar that a bunch of people have on tavern 01:17:38 ? 01:18:20 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=3464 e.g. 01:18:22 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-847-gf95877c (34) 01:18:57 ahh 01:18:58 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:19:02 is this the anti-food coalition? 01:19:09 yes 01:19:25 oh uh 01:19:26 heh 01:19:38 I'm 01:19:41 well I'm very stupid 01:19:44 ? 01:19:48 !cmd !flip .echo (╯°□°)╯︵$(let (q ${*:-┻━┻}) (map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) (if (> (length $q) 1) (reverse $q) $q)) 01:19:49 Redefined command: !flip => .echo (╯°□°)╯︵$(let (q ${*:-┻━┻}) (map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) (if (> (length $q) 1) (reverse $q) $q)) 01:19:54 didn't redefine it 01:19:54 ohh 01:19:56 just pasted it 01:19:58 thought this was about avs for a sec 01:19:58 !flip this is dumb 01:19:59 (╯°□°)╯︵$(let (q ${*:-┻━┻}) (map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< ${c} T) (lookup ${c} (flipcharhash1)) (lookup ${c} (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" ${w}))))) (if (> (length ${q}) 1) (reverse ${q}) ${q})) this is dumb 01:20:03 lmao 01:20:06 mmmm 01:20:11 oh it's wrong 01:20:13 that needs to be saved somewhere 01:20:21 !learn add dumb (╯°□°)╯︵$(let (q ${*:-┻━┻}) (map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< ${c} T) (lookup ${c} (flipcharhash1)) (lookup ${c} (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" ${w}))))) (if (> (length ${q}) 1) (reverse ${q}) ${q})) this is dumb 01:20:21 dumb[6/6]: (╯°□°)╯︵$(let (q ${*:-┻━┻}) (map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< ${c} T) (lookup ${c} (flipcharhash1)) (lookup ${c} (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" ${w}))))) (if (> (length ${q}) 1) (reverse ${q}) ${q})) this is dumb 01:20:23 goodsequell 01:20:29 also a fine choice 01:20:30 you can't put it there! 01:20:32 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 01:20:41 ??goodsequel[$] 01:20:41 goodsequel ~ goodsequell[17/17]: yes ~ des[1/2]: 01:20:49 !learn add goodsequell See {dumb[6]} 01:20:49 goodsequell[18/18]: See {dumb[6]} 01:20:53 ??goodsequell[$ 01:20:53 dumb[6/6]: (╯°□°)╯︵$(let (q ${*:-┻━┻}) (map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< ${c} T) (lookup ${c} (flipcharhash1)) (lookup ${c} (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" ${w}))))) (if (> (length ${q}) 1) (reverse ${q}) ${q})) this is dumb 01:21:08 !learn del dumb[6] 01:21:08 Deleted dumb[6/6]: (╯°□°)╯︵$(let (q ${*:-┻━┻}) (map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< ${c} T) (lookup ${c} (flipcharhash1)) (lookup ${c} (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" ${w}))))) (if (> (length ${q}) 1) (reverse ${q}) ${q})) this is dumb 01:21:12 ! 01:21:15 rip 01:21:15 :3 01:21:22 dammit why didn't it work 01:21:23 now you've RUINED 01:21:25 goodsequell 01:21:31 can't believe this... 01:22:04 .echo (╯°□°)╯︵$(let (q ${*:-┻━┻}) (map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) (if (> (length $q) 1) (reverse $q) $q)) 01:22:04 (╯°□°)╯︵$(let (q ${*:-┻━┻}) (map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< ${c} T) (lookup ${c} (flipcharhash1)) (lookup ${c} (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" ${w}))))) (if (> (length ${q}) 1) (reverse ${q}) ${q})) 01:23:35 .echo (╯°□°)╯︵$(let (q ${*:-┻━┻}) (map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) (if (> (length $q) 1) (reverse $q) $q))) 01:23:35 (╯°□°)╯︵┻━┻ 01:23:39 there we go 01:23:44 !cmd !flip .echo (╯°□°)╯︵$(let (q ${*:-┻━┻}) (map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) (if (> (length $q) 1) (reverse $q) $q))) 01:23:45 Redefined command: !flip => .echo (╯°□°)╯︵$(let (q ${*:-┻━┻}) (map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) (if (> (length $q) 1) (reverse $q) $q))) 01:23:49 !flip this is dumb 01:23:50 (╯°□°)╯︵pnɯq ᴉs ʇɥᴉs 01:23:54 !learn del goodsequell[$ 01:23:54 Deleted goodsequell[18/18]: See {dumb[6]} 01:23:57 huge success 01:24:06 !flip PleasingFungus is dumb 01:24:07 (╯°□°)╯︵pnɯq ᴉs ԀlǝɐsᴉuƃℲnuƃns 01:24:07 er 01:24:15 er 01:24:17 I don't even know what the goal was anymore. 01:24:21 However, I'm pretty sure those are both wrong. 01:24:21 dammit 01:24:35 why does it reverse the reverse 01:24:59 .echo $(reverse (list are you friggin kidding me)) 01:24:59 me kidding friggin you are 01:25:05 flip it and lock it, reverse the reverse til you trip it and drop it cheeyeah 01:25:18 why are you reversing anything 01:25:33 is the goal to rotate 180 or to flip vertically? 01:26:01 !flip ontoclasm 01:26:01 (╯°□°)╯︵ouʇoɔlɐsɯ 01:26:05 the frig 01:26:09 hm 01:26:36 * ontoclasm inverts!!! 01:27:13 !flip some thing 01:27:14 (╯°□°)╯︵ʇɥᴉuƃ soɯǝ 01:27:38 I'd assume that should read some thing upside down 01:27:40 instead of thing some 01:28:34 solution: rename !flip to !mirror 01:28:39 wait no that's not right either 01:29:03 hahah 01:30:26 " Halve the deadly 'changelog manticore' population " 01:30:30 time flies.... 01:30:49 fr changelog manticore 01:30:57 features? 01:31:12 none 01:31:30 uhm, it commits changes to your repository 01:31:47 worrying. 01:31:48 and then if you take a step it desyncs from origin 01:32:28 oh 01:32:38 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 43.0.1/20151216175450]] 01:33:10 !cmd !flip .echo (╯°□°)╯︵$(let (q (list ${*:-┻━┻})) (map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) (if (> (length $q) 1) (reverse $q) $q))) 01:33:11 Redefined command: !flip => .echo (╯°□°)╯︵$(let (q (list ${*:-┻━┻})) (map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) (if (> (length $q) 1) (reverse $q) $q))) 01:33:14 !flip this is dumb 01:33:15 (╯°□°)╯︵qɯnpsᴉsᴉɥʇ 01:33:18 dammit 01:33:41 almost 01:33:49 -!- Dacendoran has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:33:56 haha 01:34:15 gammafunk: (if (> (length $q) 1) (reverse $q) $q) is just (reverse $q) 01:34:25 it has been one hour since ##crawl-dev became about flipping. 01:34:33 amalloy: alas, it is not 01:34:38 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 01:34:41 why not? 01:34:50 polyphemus should probably be rPetr 01:35:03 I just dragged him through his own catlobe breath to escape 01:35:04 .echo $(reverse fun) 01:35:05 nuf 01:35:06 that seems thematically weird 01:35:09 .echo $(reverse fun times) 01:35:09 Bad number of arguments (2) to reverse, must be 1 in $(reverse fun times) 01:35:19 .echo $(reverse (list fun times)) 01:35:20 times fun 01:35:22 but it's weird 01:35:26 what $* is 01:35:55 the problem is really $*, have to figure out how to reverse that 01:36:09 !cmd !testrev .echo $(reverse $*) 01:36:10 Defined command: !testrev => .echo $(reverse $*) 01:36:14 !testrev this stuff 01:36:14 ffuts siht 01:36:18 thematically weird but possibly better gameplay 01:36:22 interesting 01:36:32 it's becoming a string after all 01:36:45 !cmd !testrev .echo $(reverse ${*}) 01:36:46 Redefined command: !testrev => .echo $(reverse ${*}) 01:36:49 !testrev this stuff 01:36:50 ffuts siht 01:37:12 so that's it, I need to listify it 01:37:27 that or just split by space 01:37:29 that would be best, yeah 01:37:33 ok, this should work 01:39:31 !cmd !flip .echo (╯°□°)╯︵$(map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) (join " " (reverse (split " " ${*:-┻━┻})))) 01:39:32 Redefined command: !flip => .echo (╯°□°)╯︵$(map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) (join " " (reverse (split " " ${*:-┻━┻})))) 01:39:37 !flip this is dumb 01:39:38 (╯°□°)╯︵qɯnp sᴉ sᴉɥʇ 01:39:44 friggin finally 01:39:56 !flip congratulations gammafunk 01:39:57 (╯°□°)╯︵ʞunɟɐɯɯɐƃ suoᴉʇɐlnʇɐɹƃuoɔ 01:40:21 !flip I bet W I D E S P A C E doesn't work 01:40:22 (╯°□°)╯︵ʞɹoʍ ʇ,usǝop Ǝ Ɔ ∀ Ԁ S Ǝ p I M ʇǝq I 01:40:28 yeah but oh well 01:40:41 you get one space only 01:41:01 1learn add black_magic 01:41:31 !flip $(!flip flop) 01:41:32 (╯°□°)╯︵ɟlop︵╯(°□°╯) 01:42:06 is there a reverse of those ╯ 01:42:54 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:43:21 -!- mong has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:50:28 !fn flipcharhash2 $(hash "T" "┴" "U" "∩" "V" "Λ" "W" "M" "Y" "⅄" "[" "]" "]" "[" "_" "‾" "`" "," "a" "ɐ" "b" "q" "c" "ɔ" "d" "p" "e" "ǝ" "f" "ɟ" "g" "ƃ" "h" "ɥ" "i" "ᴉ" "j" "ɾ" "k" "ʞ" "l" "l" "m" "ɯ" "n" "u" "p" "d" "q" "b" "r" "ɹ" "t" "ʇ" "u" "n" "v" "ʌ" "w" "ʍ" "y" "ʎ" "z" "z" "{" "}" "}" "{" "╯" "╭" "╭" "╯" "╰" "╮" "╮" "╰") 01:50:29 Invalid definition: must be parseable as a function 01:51:49 will have to wait for v. 2.0 01:55:38 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-847-gf95877c 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:54 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:06:46 -!- mekhami has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:14:04 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 43.0.1/20151216175450]] 02:18:36 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:21:34 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 02:26:51 -!- AltReality has quit [Quit: Shame on us, doomed from the start, May God have mercy on our dirty little hearts. Shame on us, for what we've done, and all we ever were, just zeros and ones.] 02:31:00 -!- tollymain has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 02:31:59 huh, I honestly thought ENCH_BRILLIANT existed 02:32:10 hrm 02:36:21 doesn't grunt's think basically do brilliance for monsters 02:36:25 *thing 02:36:30 yeah 02:36:30 @??deep_elf_high_priest 02:36:30 deep elf high priest (09e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 11 | HP: 41-60 | AC/EV: 4/12 | Dam: 14 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest, evil, unholy, see invisible | Res: 06magic(80) | Vul: 08holy, 11silver | XP: 1043 | Sp: sum.demon [11!AM], hellfire burst (3d15) [11!AM], malign offering (2d17) [11!AM], smiting (7-17) [11!AM], twisted resurrection [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 02:36:39 guess that's not updated 02:36:43 isn't that still in a branch or s/t 02:36:45 the brill aura 02:36:49 oh, that didn't merge? 02:37:28 v0v 02:40:31 polyphemus is traditionally defeated with fuckery, dragging him through his own catlobe breath is cute and interesting 02:42:40 might be too easy 02:42:54 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:43:14 how do monsters resist catlobe breath 02:44:24 as far as I can tell, they don't 02:44:37 oh 02:45:00 how does catlobe breath work anyway, it seems like you always get at least one turn to move out of it before petrifying 02:45:03 hd helps though, doesn't it? 02:45:27 ZChris13: yeah, and the higher your xl the more likely you are to resist if you choose not to move out 02:45:42 ah that's what I though 02:45:54 it's like meph/pcloud 02:46:00 you have to sit a turn in it for it to do anything 02:46:07 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:46:39 *thought. Monster HD is equivalent to player XL for many things so it would make sense to use it here, yeah? 02:46:51 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:46:51 could, sure 02:47:07 !source cloud.cc:975 02:47:07 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/cloud.cc#l975 02:47:22 you'd make the change here 02:50:45 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-847-gf95877c 02:53:57 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 43.0.1/20151216175450]] 02:54:34 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 02:59:31 rip gigabats 02:59:54 ?/gigabat 02:59:54 Matching entries (3): bat_vault[1]: MICROBAT MEGABAT GIGABAT FIREBAT GHOSTBAT ICEBAT SKELETONBAT | dieselteamideas[10]: Team Bat: KILOBAT GIGABAT TERABAT | implemented_bad_ideas[8]: gigabats 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:15 what happened to gigabats 03:00:16 @?? gigabat 03:00:17 unknown monster: "gigabat" 03:00:22 unknown monster: "gigabat" 03:00:22 %0.16?gigabat 03:00:30 @0.15?gigabat 03:00:39 unknown monster: "gigabat" 03:00:39 %0.15?gigabat 03:01:34 it's probably just a renamed not-bat 03:01:42 er, not-gigabat 03:02:18 @??bat name:gigabat XL:27 HP1.21gigawatts 03:02:18 unknown monster: "bat XL:27 HP1.21gigawatts" 03:04:06 I'm just saying, the description for gigabats was removed in the commit linked above RE: PleasingFungus or gammafunk 03:04:22 not sure what's actually going on in that commit 03:06:16 -!- mekhami has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:10:29 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:12:14 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-847-gf95877c (34) 03:18:45 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 43.0.1/20151216175450]] 03:29:44 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 03:30:01 -!- gressup has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:34:45 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:44:00 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:49:53 -!- Rotatell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:50:27 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 03:55:24 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:56:11 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:59:41 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:59:59 Misleading prompt on attacking poison immune monsters with a venom weapon under TSO 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10186 by Kvaak 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:09:03 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:10:11 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 04:15:04 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest64935 04:32:50 -!- Kolbur1 is now known as Kolbur 04:34:21 -!- Guest64935 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:36:26 -!- Placid has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:46:31 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 04:53:39 -!- mumbologist has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:57:16 -!- hurdos1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:06:07 -!- mekhami has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:06:19 -!- Taq has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:10:48 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 05:12:44 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:36:36 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:41:04 -!- Idolo has quit [] 05:42:18 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:55:16 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 05:55:53 -!- Wheatmill has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:05 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:05:20 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:06:55 -!- mekhami has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:09:32 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:15:25 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 06:16:35 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:23:00 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:23:56 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:27:24 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 06:29:57 -!- Kolbur has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:47:17 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:47:18 -!- pantaril has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:50:35 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 06:53:47 My current KoAs^Z likes his "dismissal very much! 06:54:49 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 06:55:20 -!- Xodahs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:57:36 -!- Guest25839 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:08:29 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:10:30 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:12:56 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:13:54 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:16:15 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:19:24 one question about dismissal: do teleported enemies remember my location and will go back there? 07:23:15 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:24:05 Netting The Royal Jelly 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10187 by dynast 07:24:14 this should be a net gain 07:26:24 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:38:11 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:39:15 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:43:44 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:44:48 apparently netting TRJ essentially instakills it 07:45:50 yeah it still spawns crap but their majestic puddingness just stops doing anything 07:45:55 -!- fazisi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:48:46 :( 07:48:54 I waited 10k turns on d1 07:48:59 poor royal jelly 07:49:01 still in the net 07:49:50 leaving the floor frees trj but the net doesn't go anywhere so you can just do it again 07:51:54 http://i.imgur.com/PLA50Ri.png 07:51:57 this is a good bug 07:53:22 -!- Kolbur1 is now known as Kolbur 07:54:42 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:58:13 indeed, good it's reported 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00:22 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:07:41 <|amethyst> I see three possible fixes 08:07:53 -!- mekhami has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:08:01 <|amethyst> 1. allow jellies to eat seen items again 08:08:13 <|amethyst> 2. allow jellies to specifically eat their trapping nets 08:09:01 <|amethyst> 3. prevent jellies from eating their trapping nets even if unseen, and remove the special case that makes them not try to escape nets 08:10:00 Dith, Tukima's Dance, rod of destruction 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10188 by milo 08:10:00 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:10:02 <|amethyst> I don't this it's possible to do just the second half of 3, without getting a crash or at least inconsistent state when a jelly gets netted out of your sight 08:11:58 -!- Tilogour has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:14:32 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:14:44 -!- serq has quit [Changing host] 08:15:31 <|amethyst> s/this/think/ 08:22:37 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:25:35 -!- Weretaco_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:28:33 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 08:34:29 <|amethyst> I guess also, subsuming 3., 4. remove that special case, and remove item eating in general 08:34:34 <|amethyst> I am doing 3. for right now 08:34:56 -!- Earlo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:48:34 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 09:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:06:46 |amethyst: don't remove item eating, please 09:06:50 * dpeg would kill for the slurp 09:07:15 <|amethyst> item eating has effectively been removed already 09:07:33 * dpeg ponders suicide 09:07:37 <|amethyst> unless you worship Jiyva, the only things that get eaten are items you didn't know about in the first place 09:07:49 yes, it's true 09:10:31 |amethyst: there's still some life left in it: a jelly generator (we have one Lemuel vault that does this) could encourage players to explore a level faster 09:10:55 <|amethyst> only spoiled players 09:11:21 <|amethyst> how are you supposed to figure out that "slurping noise" means a jelly ate an item when you never see it happen 09:12:00 |amethyst: this can and should be explained 09:12:07 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:15:43 best like this: "You hear a slurping noise. (This could have been a scroll of acquirement!)" 09:19:57 !flip dpeg 09:19:57 (╯°□°)╯︵ƃǝdp 09:20:09 !flip Lightli 09:20:10 (╯°□°)╯︵ᴉlʇɥƃᴉ˥ 09:20:11 gammafunk: only ASCII here, I cannot see it properly :( 09:20:14 !flip Lasty_ 09:20:15 (╯°□°)╯︵‾ʎʇsɐ˥ 09:20:20 dpeg: oh, too bad 09:21:01 dpeg: I spent over an our trying to figure out how to make that command in Sequell 09:21:06 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:21:13 because we care about software development! 09:21:15 gammafunk: productive Sundays!!! 09:21:37 * dpeg should work on oubliettes and YABOD, but is player a KoAs instead. 09:22:25 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 09:22:59 Lasty: dismissal rocks! 09:27:21 Glad to hear it! 09:28:22 I still haven't gotten to use Pain in a live game 09:28:26 but I've used Dismissal in two 09:31:13 sorry, to use *WHAT*?! 09:31:38 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:31:53 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 09:32:55 I used it in a speedrun that was not going well. It didn't help, but I didn't really care 09:32:59 hmm, is showing the +4 in amulet of reflection necessary? 09:33:11 Medar: the enchant is variable 09:33:17 oh 09:33:24 they're like slaying/prot/evasion 09:34:01 don't know if I like that, but ok 09:34:50 the confusing part is that it's +4 shielding, not +4 reflection 09:34:53 yeah, it's at least a useful amulet if you find one with some enchant, but the design of "it's a shield in your amulet slot" 09:35:20 does it come with negative enchantments? 09:36:06 apparently not 09:36:12 case AMU_REFLECTION: 09:36:12 return _good_jewellery_plus(subtype); 09:36:24 return 2 + (one_chance_in(3) ? random2(2) : random2avg(5, 2)); 09:36:44 oh max is 6 09:36:57 I mean the price for variable enchantment is that you have to check all of them 09:37:11 right, although these amulets are rare 09:37:13 and I'm not sure if it adds anything worth that 09:38:20 i'd agree that just having them all give the same fixed value would probably be better 09:38:32 <|amethyst> probably that holds for all jewellery 09:39:25 -!- uJellie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:39:34 <|amethyst> (other than artefacts) 09:39:50 yep 09:39:54 maybe, but the negative enchantments on rings are part of the early game, plus I feel the quality varies more 09:40:07 oh yeah negative enchants 09:40:35 don't have a good feeling how on much the + matters on the amulet though 09:41:51 I'd say it matters a fair degre, since the reflection ego is not terribly strong 09:41:57 although that's more my intuitive sense 09:42:28 I probably end up getting it so late that it's less impressive 09:42:45 with your large shield 09:43:05 my troll is too dumb to notice 09:43:05 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:43:52 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:46:57 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:53:42 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:56:24 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00:24 -!- yottam has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:05:09 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 10:08:35 -!- Laptop_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:09:00 -!- mekhami has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:10:35 -!- Bcadren has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:19:11 -!- radinms_ has quit [] 10:35:10 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 10:54:11 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01:11 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:05:16 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:09:24 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:13:02 gammafunk: PleasingFungus: Aura of Brilliance isn't in trunk 11:13:17 see, that's what I thought! 11:17:34 -!- hurdos1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:18:07 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:19:26 -!- Foamed has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:20:35 <|amethyst> distracting gold is gone, right? 11:21:52 ? 11:22:02 pretty sure it's still around; why? 11:22:05 <|amethyst> oh 11:22:26 the way it works was changed at some point 11:22:28 <|amethyst> I'm removing most uses of item.special under that name 11:22:49 !source mon-act.cc:1938 11:22:50 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-act.cc#l1938 11:23:14 <|amethyst> hm 11:23:25 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:23:25 hm?? 11:23:25 <|amethyst> hm 11:23:28 <|amethyst> that looks like a duration on the player 11:23:57 !source gozag_gold_in_los 11:23:57 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/godpassive.cc#l673 11:24:14 hm 11:24:24 !flip hm 11:24:25 (╯°□°)╯︵ɯɥ 11:24:33 !flip !flip 11:24:34 (╯°□°)╯︵dᴉlɟ¡ 11:24:42 <|amethyst> oh 11:25:07 <|amethyst> it looks like that function is only used to determine which message to give 11:25:25 !source mon-death.cc:358 11:25:25 <|amethyst> and it doesn't appear to check j->special anyway 11:25:26 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-death.cc#l358 11:25:34 I think this has been refactored to not use special at all 11:26:52 <|amethyst> aha 11:27:14 %git c38a6e807 11:27:14 07MarvinPA02 * 0.17-a0-348-gc38a6e8: Rework Gozag's gold distraction to use a player duration 10(10 months ago, 35 files, 49+ 117-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c38a6e8078a8 11:27:49 <|amethyst> hm 11:28:08 <|amethyst> btw, it looks like if we ever tried to introduce a randapp jewellery item, it would break 11:28:22 ? 11:28:32 <|amethyst> !source item_colour 11:28:32 1/2. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/makeitem.cc#l74 11:28:36 <|amethyst> if (is_unrandom_artefact(item) && !is_randapp_artefact(item)) 11:28:36 <|amethyst> return; // don't stomp on item.special! 11:28:51 ah 11:29:01 does this affect monster all over the level, or is there a LOS check there somewhere that I'm missing? 11:36:55 Silence falls over ##crawl-dev. 11:42:27 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:49:26 <|amethyst> Medar: I think you're right and it does 11:49:38 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 11:49:43 <|amethyst> Medar: could test by turning that simple_monster_message into a plain mprf and seeing if you get spammed 11:49:52 <|amethyst> s/that/those/ 11:54:50 <|amethyst> is there any reason for DACT_GOLD_ON_TOP to still exist? 11:55:20 <|amethyst> I guess it's still relevant for Gozag gold detection 11:55:24 DACT_GOLD_ON_TOP exists so that gold detection works properly, yes 11:56:26 if you revisit a level after starting to worship Gozag, it sets up the item piles that you can see the gold 11:56:38 * gammafunk quaffs a potion of booze. gammafunk is confused. gammafunk reads a cursed scroll of gold detection. 11:56:46 gammafunk feels entrapped. 11:58:01 Grunt: I noticed that when I surged my Dowsing card, the duration wasn't removed. Pak doesn't enhance decks? 11:58:27 P does enhance decks 11:58:30 hrm 11:58:31 it's not a strong effect though 11:58:42 er 11:58:42 hm 11:58:43 well it didn't remove the Surge status 11:58:53 when I evoked the card, that is 11:58:59 maybe not 11:59:05 I meant to check that but never did 11:59:40 <|amethyst> does wand of healing expend the surge? 11:59:46 |amethyst: no 11:59:52 <|amethyst> ah, good 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:10 gammafunk: decks can be subject to evocation enhancers, but surges don't trigger them for decks 12:00:15 which I think I may be okay with? 12:00:36 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:00:42 nem gets jealous and places the player under penance :p 12:01:00 well it's contrary to player's expectations 12:01:04 <|amethyst> Grunt: hmm... I guess teleport probably does, but I'm not really sure how to avoid the problem there 12:01:33 |amethyst: teleport explicitly doesn't trigger surges 12:01:34 hrm, surge is instant and...is there any initial cost? 12:01:39 so maybe it just doesn't matter too much 12:01:49 gammafunk: sometimes, one point of piety 12:01:52 <|amethyst> Grunt: hm, that seems a little problematic 12:02:03 <|amethyst> Grunt: all the other hex wands do 12:02:20 <|amethyst> but of course it would be more problematic the other way 12:04:08 -!- Kolbur has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:04:57 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-848-gf07a391: Warn about animating any god-hated weapon (#10188) 10(4 hours ago, 2 files, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f07a391d29be 12:04:57 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-849-g809d96e: Allow jellies to escape nets (#10187) 10(4 hours ago, 2 files, 4+ 16-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/809d96e94bcb 12:04:57 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-850-gd0d75fa: Rename is_item_*. 10(3 hours ago, 10 files, 29+ 29-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d0d75facb0d0 12:04:57 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-851-g9f52933: Use more specific item union names. 10(2 hours ago, 40 files, 160+ 159-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9f52933bf59b 12:04:57 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-852-gf05487a: Remove leftover references to distracting gold. 10(23 minutes ago, 6 files, 7+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f05487a9aac3 12:04:57 03|amethyst02 07* 0.18-a0-853-gfe32976: Try to handle randapp unrand jewellery. 10(18 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fe3297641fe6 12:05:00 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-847-gf95877c (34) 12:05:36 item_is_OP() 12:05:49 item_is_imba() 12:06:16 <|amethyst> item_is_shit() 12:06:29 return true; 12:06:30 <|amethyst> not to be confused with item_is_the_shit() 12:06:30 item_is_grunt_creation() 12:09:35 -!- mekhami has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:12:28 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 12:13:50 <|amethyst> hm 12:14:52 <|amethyst> "Dont read manual. Its spoilerfree. Look up stuff you encounter and need to know more about without spoilers via ?. Good luck." 12:17:51 where's that from 12:17:57 <|amethyst> reddit thread 12:18:30 <|amethyst> they later clarify, "Its just that you get more out of manual reading after playing a bit." 12:19:11 But the funnest way to play a video game is to read the entire manual, taking copious notes, before you ever play! 12:19:29 <|amethyst> and "Different info [compared to in-game help], manual has more advanced options for when you know a bit about the game." 12:20:20 -!- vev has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:23:21 !unionize |amethyst 12:24:12 mm. glad we're still giving to-hit bonuses for attacking with rods 12:24:31 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:26:38 !lg PleasingFungus p 12:26:39 2. PleasingFungus the Firebug (L7 VSFE of Pakellas), slain by a killer bee on D:6 on 2015-12-12 02:00:26, with 741 points after 2067 turns and 0:16:16. 12:27:10 !lg devteamnp p s=name / won o=% 12:27:11 6/50 games for devteamnp (p): 1/1x elliptic [100.00%], 2/2x Lasty [100.00%], 2/3x gammafunk [66.67%], 1/10x SGrunt [10.00%], 0/2x MarvinPA [0.00%], 0/2x PleasingFungus [0.00%], 0/3x reaver [0.00%], 0/1x Medar [0.00%], 0/1x dpeg [0.00%], 0/25x neil [0.00%] 12:27:21 way better than Grunt. way better 12:27:25 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:27:32 * johnstein has never really rtfm 12:28:00 !lg devteamnp p s=name !boring / won o=% 12:28:02 6/50 games for devteamnp (p !boring): 1/1x elliptic [100.00%], 2/2x Lasty [100.00%], 2/3x gammafunk [66.67%], 1/10x SGrunt [10.00%], 0/2x MarvinPA [0.00%], 0/2x PleasingFungus [0.00%], 0/3x reaver [0.00%], 0/1x Medar [0.00%], 0/1x dpeg [0.00%], 0/25x neil [0.00%] 12:28:07 hm 12:28:08 !kw boring 12:28:09 Keyword: boring => quitting|leaving 12:28:17 wonder if we should just add wizmode to that? 12:28:29 would that break anything 12:28:35 maybe also experimental 12:28:44 ..no why would we add that? 12:28:44 Grunt: is this lava orc end new? 12:29:00 !lg PleasingFungus p 1 12:29:01 1/2. PleasingFungus the Brilliant (L15 VSFE of Pakellas), slain by an eight-headed hydra (kmap: swamp) on Swamp:3 on 2015-12-11 03:57:19, with 69922 points after 11767 turns and 1:50:40. 12:29:03 nm I read something wrong 12:29:04 ^ this was a good game 12:29:19 it's early and I've had no coffee. I'll disappear for now 12:29:21 <|amethyst> there are apparently people who refuse to play experimentals because they count towards stats 12:29:44 I saw that post, that person doesn't really understand what Sequell is 12:29:54 it's a database where you make queries, and you can make them however you want 12:30:20 for the scoring pages I can understand since you have no control over this "query" but you can even set your nick to ignore experimental 12:30:22 were they talking about aco? 12:30:25 *cao 12:30:31 *scoring pages 12:30:36 no about Sequell 12:31:42 <|amethyst> !lg * sprint won 12:31:43 3164. us17 the Skullcrusher (L22 GrFi of Ru), escaped with the Orb and 5 runes on 2015-12-20 16:34:16, with 11296111 points after 14727 turns and 0:44:40. 12:31:55 hm 12:32:03 <|amethyst> !lg us17 won ru 12:32:03 No games for us17 (won ru). 12:32:04 %git 499c6bd0 12:32:04 07Grunt02 * 0.17-a0-2185-g499c6bd: A few kennysheep vaults (#9682). 10(8 weeks ago, 3 files, 411+ 27-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/499c6bd0131c 12:32:32 <|amethyst> If we exclude sprint from default queries, I'm not sure why we don't exclude experimentals likewise 12:32:51 I guess the idea is that sprint is just fundamentally a different game 12:32:52 !streak 12:32:53 johnstein has 2 consecutive wins (GrBe, MfTm; VSBe, OgWr) and has won their last game (HuFi). 12:32:59 !streak . explbr= 12:33:00 johnstein (explbr=) has 3 consecutive wins (VSBe, OgWr, HuFi), and can keep going! 12:33:03 whereas experimentals are much less anything like that 12:33:29 I'd be fine with excluding them, I guess; it would simplify some issues like zombie alive games 12:33:52 hrm, actually that would complicate locating people playing those games, although maybe that's not a big deal 12:34:01 !locateall 12:34:05 gammafunk: CBRO squarelos-0.17 0.17-a, L1 HuWz of No God | CSZO 0.18-a, L11 DESu of Sif Muna 12:34:06 <|amethyst> anyway, re boring, I can't think of any reason not to include wizmode 12:34:12 !kw boring 12:34:13 Keyword: boring => quitting|leaving 12:34:24 !kw wizmode 12:34:25 Built-in: wizmode => ktyp=wizmode 12:34:38 !kw leaving 12:34:39 Built-in: leaving => ktyp=leaving 12:34:41 !kw boring quitting|leaving|wizmode 12:34:42 Defined keyword: boring => quitting|leaving|wizmode 12:35:02 <|amethyst> !lg @devteamnp boring s=ktyp 12:35:03 6284 games for @devteamnp (boring): 4510x quitting, 1637x leaving, 137x wizmode 12:35:09 !gamesby . !boring !gfspeed recent 12:35:10 gammafunk (!boring !gfspeed recent) has played 25 games, between 2015-03-01 23:19:40 and 2015-12-18 03:11:22, won 5 (20.0%), high score 2844300, total score 11454657, total turns 694018, play-time/day 0:16:10, total time 3d+6:57:42. 12:35:13 <|amethyst> !lg @devteamnp name!=neil boring s=ktyp 12:35:14 5078 games for @devteamnp (name!=neil boring): 3360x quitting, 1635x leaving, 83x wizmode 12:35:25 those 83 are PleasingFungus 12:35:37 >.> 12:35:38 <|amethyst> !lg @devteamnp wizmode s=name 12:35:39 137 games for @devteamnp (wizmode): 60x gammafunk, 54x Neil, 15x bh, 5x wheals, 2x reaver, Medar 12:35:42 lmao 12:36:44 Your a wizard, gammafunk! 12:36:50 *You're 12:37:10 blurgh 12:37:21 i'm gonna have to sort through this big list donblas made 12:37:58 ontoclasm: it's worth it, think of the weird flash games that can get made using 100% crawl tiles! 12:38:14 * ontoclasm is burned terribly!! 12:39:55 i see at least one really big mistake he made 12:40:43 roctavian went through and darkened like 90% of the floors in the game, so donblas attributed those floors to him 12:42:08 also the script credits people for doing things like moving a tile from one folder to another 12:48:18 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:48:28 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 12:48:44 !tell donblas I looked through the list of tile exclusions; are you releasing the entire histories of tiles, or just the most recent versions? If the latter, I can cut it down by a lot since many of those tiles have been replaced 12:48:45 ontoclasm: OK, I'll let donblas know. 12:49:06 !gitgrep darken.*floor 12:49:07 %git HEAD^{/} 12:49:07 07|amethyst02 * 0.18-a0-853-gfe32976: Try to handle randapp unrand jewellery. 10(63 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fe3297641fe6 12:49:13 uh 12:49:31 <|amethyst> !cmd !gitgrep 12:49:32 Command: !gitgrep => .echo $(ignore $1)$(let (n $1 s $*) (concat "%git HEAD^{/" $s "}" (repeat (concat "^^{/" $s "}") (- (int $n) 1)))) 12:49:41 <|amethyst> ah 12:49:43 <|amethyst> need a number 12:49:49 <|amethyst> !gitgrep 1 darken.*floor 12:49:50 %git HEAD^{/darken.*floor} 12:49:50 07kilobyte02 * 0.9-a1-164-g9fdae32: Fix incorrect darkening of range when a new-style targetter is used. 10(4 years, 7 months ago, 7 files, 19+ 29-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9fdae32aae7b 12:49:56 <|amethyst> !gitgrep 2 darken.*floor 12:49:56 %git HEAD^{/darken.*floor}^^{/darken.*floor} 12:49:57 Could not find commit HEAD^{/darken.*floor}^^{/darken.*floor} (git returned 128) 12:49:59 hm, interesting 12:50:05 <|amethyst> !gitgrep 1 Darken.*floor 12:50:05 %git HEAD^{/Darken.*floor} 12:50:06 07ontoclasm02 * 0.12-a0-1803-gee4f5cf: Darken acid floors 10(2 years, 11 months ago, 4 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ee4f5cfb8e75 12:50:11 <|amethyst> !gitgrep 2 Darken.*floor 12:50:12 %git HEAD^{/Darken.*floor}^^{/Darken.*floor} 12:50:12 07evilmike02 * 0.10-a0-1779-g189d62d: Darken the pandemonium floor tile colours a bit. 10(4 years, 1 month ago, 1 file, 6+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/189d62d71cce 12:50:20 anh, that's too far 12:50:26 he must've called it somethign else 12:50:36 <|amethyst> %git :/Re-tuned 12:50:36 07roctavian02 * 0.16-a0-1652-gba51bde: Re-tuned brightness for many floor tiles 10(1 year, 2 months ago, 115 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ba51bde10e9e 12:50:58 ah, thanks 12:51:58 -!- wumbology has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:54:45 !tell donblas In addition, you can probably prune a lot of the ones attributed to roctavian since a lot of the edits he did were just brightness correction, vis: gba51bde 12:54:46 ontoclasm: OK, I'll let donblas know. 12:54:59 <|amethyst> hm 12:55:10 <|amethyst> is there a way to change a bug's project? 12:55:12 bsdbeard (L8 VSAs) (D:4) 12:55:26 <|amethyst> 10187 was filed against mantis 12:55:30 <|amethyst> !crashlog 12:55:31 12742. bsdbeard, XL8 VSAs, T:5006 (milestone): http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/bsdbeard/crash-bsdbeard-20151220-175511.txt 12:56:02 <|amethyst> SIGTERM in pcre_exec ??? 12:56:11 <|amethyst> messages 12:56:18 <|amethyst> Messages: 12:56:18 <|amethyst> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 12:56:18 <|amethyst> > 12:56:18 <|amethyst> > 12:56:18 <|amethyst> > 12:56:51 <|amethyst> ... and then 997 or so more lines of ">" 12:56:52 bsdbeard (L8 VSAs) (D:4) 12:57:09 <|amethyst> !rc bsdbeard 12:57:10 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/bsdbeard.rc 12:57:14 <|amethyst> &rc bsdbeard 12:57:15 http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-git/bsdbeard.rc 12:58:31 -!- wumbology_ is now known as wumbology 12:59:28 %git 3a289399 12:59:28 07tenofswords02 * 0.16-a0-1144-g3a28939: Clean out some unused tiles that have gotten better replacements. 10(1 year, 2 months ago, 33 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3a289399ff00 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:04 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:23 !tell donblas Also also: see commit 3a289399; theTower/tenofswords deleted those tiles 13:00:23 ontoclasm: OK, I'll let donblas know. 13:04:21 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:05:43 -!- wumbology has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:06:41 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 43.0.1/20151216175450]] 13:14:41 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:14:52 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:18:42 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:32:11 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:33:05 !lg devteamnp !boring !gfspeed cv>=0.14-a xl>=17 s=name / splat o=-% 13:33:06 367/912 games for devteamnp (!boring !gfspeed cv>=0.14-a xl>=17): 0/1x felirx [0.00%], 8/114x elliptic [7.02%], 6/43x amalloy [13.95%], 5/26x gammafunk [19.23%], 16/75x Medar [21.33%], 13/46x 78291 [28.26%], 3/10x ontoclasm [30.00%], 65/189x Lasty [34.39%], 18/52x MarvinPA [34.62%], 25/63x PleasingFungus [39.68%], 6/15x doy [40.00%], 37/61x SGrunt [60.66%], 28/45x dpeg [62.22%], 13/20x bh [65.00%]... 13:33:17 Grunt: nice splat% 13:40:30 -!- dacendoran has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:43:16 -!- Earlo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:47:03 igrrr 13:52:28 -!- Placid has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:56:50 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:10:24 -!- mekhami has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:10:35 gammafunk: good 14:10:55 !lg Grunt recent splat s=char 14:10:56 2 games for Grunt (recent splat): KoGl, GrBe 14:11:00 huh 14:11:05 one of those is an explbr 14:11:16 !lg Grunt cv>=0.14-a splat s=char 14:11:17 37 games for Grunt (cv>=0.14-a splat): 6x FoFi, 4x MiGl, 3x SpSk, 3x DgWn, 3x HuAr, 3x OpVM, 2x KoAr, FeWz, OgHu, DrCj, FoVM, KoGl, DgCj, SpAM, GhIE, TrAM, GrBe, FoAK, SaGl, FeCK 14:11:26 good SaGl 14:11:33 must have been the trek to greaterplayer 14:11:37 ya 14:12:56 -!- mekhami_ is now known as mekhami 14:15:46 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:22:15 -!- kazimuth has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:28:52 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 14:31:40 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 14:31:52 %git db01d975f3 14:31:52 07|amethyst02 * 0.18-a0-666-gdb01d97: Forget Beogh item gifts when the recipient polymorphs (hong) 10(2 weeks ago, 2 files, 12+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/db01d975f3ae 14:32:12 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:32:28 |amethyst: is it necessary to have those in both places? doesn't monster_polymorph call change_monster_type? 14:32:37 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 14:38:09 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:38:39 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:39:02 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:40:14 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:41:15 random question 14:41:37 if you have the -ER mutation, does it let heavier armor work with ozo's? 14:41:48 ??ozocubu's armour 14:41:48 ozocubu's armour[1/1]: An extra 5 + 4*pow/50 AC (6 + 7*pow/50 if in ice form) lasting for 18 + 2d(power) turns. Incompatible with Stoneskin, Cigotuvi's Embrance and armour with ER >= 5, but DOES work on the undead and bodily transformed (except Statue Form). Getting hit by anything fiery will lower the duration remaining. 14:42:03 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:44:07 no 14:45:48 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:49:25 -!- Croases has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:56:57 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:57:21 if that makes you angry, you can flip the no 14:57:42 !flip no 14:57:43 (╯°□°)╯︵ou 14:57:50 feel better? 14:58:02 Obviously. I don't know what we're talking about. 14:58:16 oh, -ER mutation doesn't let you use ozo with heavier armour 14:59:03 !flip $(!blame3 PleasingFungus) 14:59:04 (╯°□°)╯︵snnnnnƃunnnnnℲƃuᴉᴉᴉᴉᴉsɐɐɐɐɐǝǝǝǝǝlԀ 14:59:05 good 14:59:08 ! 14:59:21 gammafunk: opinion on whether it should? 14:59:57 I guess it probably shouldn't? You could come up with justification flavor-wise either way, not that it matters 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:18 Probably not need to make such a good mutation even better 15:00:25 s/not/no/ 15:00:48 It can't make frost around armour that thick regardless of your frame? 15:01:03 if anyone was struggling with the theme 15:01:22 but yeah I don't have very strong feelings; I do wonder how ozo's is described wrt ER though 15:01:32 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 15:01:57 imo do not let it make Ozo's work on heavier armour 15:02:10 whether Ozo's works on the armour should be a property of the armour 15:02:12 not the player 15:02:16 yeah seems the most sensible thing 15:04:04 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 15:04:06 -!- Placid has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:04:43 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:09:11 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 15:10:25 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:10:48 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest29397 15:12:00 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:06 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:13:19 -!- wumbology has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:13:21 -!- xtwv has quit [Quit: c] 15:13:45 -!- Turgon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:17:25 -!- LB is now known as Guest11751 15:19:48 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:22:59 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 15:23:24 -!- Guest11751 is now known as Zeus 15:23:57 -!- Zeus is now known as Guest9821 15:24:22 -!- Guest9821 is now known as Cronus 15:24:52 -!- Cronus is now known as Artemis 15:25:00 -!- Artemis is now known as Hermes 15:25:15 -!- Hermes is now known as Eros 15:25:50 -!- Eros is now known as Pantheon 15:29:25 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 15:35:12 -!- mumbologist has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:36:50 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:37:40 -!- Pantheon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:41:53 heh 15:42:47 oh, never mind 15:42:56 turns out the secret tech didn't work as well as i'd hoped 15:46:23 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:49:20 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 15:57:00 -!- Kolbur has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:57:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:02:49 -!- Placid has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:04:08 -!- vale__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:04:46 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 16:06:56 is Crawl-dev still about flipping 16:08:55 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:10:35 -!- lvanderpool has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:11:18 -!- donblas has joined ##crawl-dev 16:12:04 just wanted to drop by and say we got a few more signify (including one big one), new art total: 16:12:04 donblas: You have 4 messages. Use !messages to read them. 16:12:06 Good: 4482 Bad: 1074 16:12:08 !messages 16:12:09 (1/4) ontoclasm said (3h 23m 24s ago): I looked through the list of tile exclusions; are you releasing the entire histories of tiles, or just the most recent versions? If the latter, I can cut it down by a lot since many of those tiles have been replaced 16:12:16 !messages 16:12:17 (1/3) ontoclasm said (3h 17m 31s ago): In addition, you can probably prune a lot of the ones attributed to roctavian since a lot of the edits he did were just brightness correction, vis: gba51bde 16:12:20 !messages 16:12:20 (1/2) ontoclasm said (3h 11m 56s ago): Also also: see commit 3a289399; theTower/tenofswords deleted those tiles 16:12:22 !messages 16:12:23 (1/1) wheals said (1h 15m 8s ago): it looks like you accidentally credited the tiles that theTower deleted from UNUSED as being created by theTower; i think you need to look farther back in the history to see who made them 16:13:20 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:13:25 ^ roctavian signed off so most of that is now moot 16:13:56 -!- gksd1r has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:14:11 and yeah, my list didn't handle deletes, but unless they were restored elsewhere then they don't exist anymore and thus my copy over script is ok to skip a nonexistent filename 16:14:57 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:15:11 i could redo them if necessary 16:15:34 but yeah, 50 some % to 80% is a big improvement 16:19:23 my current sorting scheme is for any commit that wasn't completely obviously just moving files or have someone else in ()'s, write down all files add/remove/deleted, make a list of all those and consider that the done list, i really should re-do and strip out all deletes 16:20:03 but that was easier to script for a first pass 16:20:42 -!- Sage1234 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:23:36 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 16:25:10 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Quit: ☆~\( *¯∇¯)ノ ▁▂▃▅▆▇█▓▒░~☆] 16:28:48 wheals: ontoclasm: fixed theTower's cleanup commits, another 35 files. Sorry 16:28:56 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:30:32 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 16:38:09 i'll spot check the other large ones tonight o/ 16:38:13 -!- donblas has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:47:23 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:47:57 -!- MercurialAlchemi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:50:12 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 16:53:00 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:02:44 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:04:41 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:08:23 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 43.0.1/20151216175450]] 17:18:59 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:21:35 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:26:13 -!- archaeo has joined ##crawl-dev 17:26:24 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:26:52 good afternoon crawl devs, mind if I draw attention to something that may have gotten lost in YAVP on tavern 17:26:55 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?p=253401#p253401 17:27:50 I didn't search the crawl-dev logs to see if it had been discussed, my apologies if it was already fixed/talked about 17:28:45 !hs Charly 17:28:46 2565. Charly the Impregnable (L27 DDFi of Makhleb), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-10-25 05:59:30, with 70981243 points after 20170 turns and 12:22:01. 17:29:00 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 17:37:11 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:38:21 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:44:12 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:49:15 I like the explicit statement that when the score is not visible, the time spent playing is wasted 17:49:53 what's your score 17:49:54 bragging rights are a powerful motivator, chequers 17:49:56 well, it is a speedrun. 17:50:03 what's your cheevos 17:50:35 yeah it's a lot more convenient to show others than just a sequell query 17:50:37 -!- Placid has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:50:58 but sadly the CAO page db is pretty fragile 17:51:45 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 17:52:32 -!- xtwv has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:52:35 in a CXC tileschat, sphara was convinced 1) the devs deleted the game on purpose and 2) I was in on their secret machinations 17:53:01 damn, you aren't? you're missing out... 17:53:09 I know, right? 17:53:26 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:53:45 but it might be nice for an orange name to pop in and say basically what you said, gamma 17:53:50 the fragile pages part, not the cheevos part 17:53:59 !hs charly x=src 17:54:00 2565. [src=cxc] Charly the Impregnable (L27 DDFi of Makhleb), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-10-25 05:59:30, with 70981243 points after 20170 turns and 12:22:01. 17:55:41 -!- yottam has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:56:08 that's all I am? just some orange name for people to use as a prop? 17:56:51 big oraneg name with big orange damage from big orange clubs? 17:57:03 say NO to the Big Orange Meme. 17:57:29 but I have this hilarious image I just photoshopped about that! 17:58:45 bullshit. I bet you don't even own photoshop. 17:59:15 he's a big orange pirate 17:59:24 crap, you must have hacked my system to figure that out 17:59:40 what I get for joining SA 17:59:45 loading hacking tools... 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:06 http://40.media.tumblr.com/7aad55d26d3aed8662f1490048ad9cfa/tumblr_mo9gbbkyIr1s7oqubo1_1280.jpg 18:00:25 dang, what did I kick off here 18:02:15 there's a better one but I can't find it 18:03:43 someone names Humans Among Us is welcoming me in a nice way, and that kind of ticks me off 18:03:54 -!- WTFace has quit [] 18:03:55 -!- Nyvrem has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:05:00 Whatcha gonna do about it, huh? 18:05:33 I guess just keep thinking up snarky replies but never post them 18:05:47 so curious, why does someone think a dev deleted the highscore 18:06:15 that might have been archaeo overstating it a bit 18:06:23 oh in a tiles chat 18:06:36 yeah I'm sure sphara was just....creatively venting 18:06:50 well, sphara was concerned that maybe Charly got caught cheating, or something 18:07:12 ah, yeah that'd be a different story, but no I think there's a technical issue with when that game happened 18:07:23 and a problem with the CAO db? |amethyst might know the details 18:07:45 archaeo: as if you aren't part of the secret orange machinations 18:07:49 <|amethyst> !lg charly won 18:07:50 16. Charly the Impregnable (L27 DDFi of Makhleb), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-10-25 05:59:30, with 70981243 points after 20170 turns and 12:22:01. 18:08:13 ProzacElf: I'm pretty sure most of the devs consider me a useful idiot willing to be the Tavern's garbageman 18:08:15 <|amethyst> !lg charly won s=cv,explbr,src,file 18:08:16 16 games for charly (won): 6x 0.17-a (6x (6x cxc (6x cxc/crawl/meta/git/logfile))), 5x 0.16-a (5x (5x cue (5x cue/crawl/meta/git/logfile))), 3x 0.16 (3x (3x cxc (3x cxc/crawl/meta/0.16/logfile))), 0.15-a ((cue (cue/crawl/meta/git/logfile))), 0.14 ((cue (cue/crawl/meta/0.14/logfile))) 18:08:25 <|amethyst> !lg charly won x=cv,explbr,src,file 18:08:26 16. [cv=0.16;explbr=;src=cxc;file=cxc/crawl/meta/0.16/logfile] Charly the Impregnable (L27 DDFi of Makhleb), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-10-25 05:59:30, with 70981243 points after 20170 turns and 12:22:01. 18:08:40 hah 18:08:52 that a *kind* of secret machination 18:08:53 sort of 18:09:01 archaeo: that's not true at all, I'd never trust you with my garbage 18:09:04 "hearsay is a /kind/ of evidence" 18:09:11 lol gammafunk 18:09:17 my garbage is too precious 18:09:28 delicious g-funk garbage 18:09:29 <|amethyst> yeah, those data losses shouldn't happen in the future, but at some point I need to spend a few days to rebuild the database entirely 18:09:54 <|amethyst> oh 18:09:58 <|amethyst> I guess I need to push that 18:10:06 <|amethyst> it's active on CAO but not in the repo 18:10:14 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-a0-853-gfe32976 (34) 18:10:50 archaeo: so if it comes up again and you care to mention it, at some point the scoring db will be rebuilt and that game will show 18:11:04 I'll post it to the thread now 18:11:08 thanks for looking into it, guys 18:11:09 thanks 18:11:12 out of curiosity, what was the reasoning behind getting rid of the summon elemental spell if anyone remembers? 18:11:19 since elves have a form of it back now 18:11:24 %git HEAD^{/the Summon Elemental} 18:11:24 07Grunt02 * 0.15-a0-639-g1b0b24d: Borrow the Summon Elemental icon for Elemental Force. 10(1 year, 7 months ago, 3 files, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1b0b24d4209a 18:11:25 it didn't work terribly well as a player spell 18:11:29 %git HEAD^{/the Summon Elemental}^^{/the Summon Elemental} 18:11:29 07MarvinPA02 * 0.15-a0-462-gf669498: Remove the Summon Elemental spell 10(1 year, 7 months ago, 19 files, 53+ 243-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f6694988d399 18:11:30 ^ 18:11:45 wow, feels like it was longer ago than that 18:12:07 ah 18:12:18 thought it might have something to do with the evokers 18:12:18 -!- lvanderpool has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:13:20 although i never really thought how it worked was "unclear." it was just a pain if you wanted anything besides air or earth 18:13:29 oh well, i don't particularly miss it, i was just wondering 18:13:37 -!- hurricos has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:13:44 since i got demolished by a DEMage's earth elementals yesterday =p 18:14:32 !demolish ProzacElf 18:16:29 !awaken ProzacElf 18:16:29 amalloy casts a spell at ProzacElf. Some walls begin to move on their own! The earth elemental hits ProzacElf!!! x6 18:17:13 !awaken amalloy 18:17:13 Grunt gestures at amalloy while chanting. Some walls begin to move on their own! The earth elemental hits amalloy!!! x6 18:19:13 walls moving on their own suggests that they are like...still stationary walls, but with moving bits on them. walls shaping themselves into moving figures might be more clear? 18:20:12 that's not how I'd read it. but it sounds like the dungeon rearranging itself to me, not like the walls turning into elementals 18:20:25 aiiieee 18:21:11 that's another reasonable reading of rhe current wording 18:22:32 "shadowy shapes emerge from nearby walls and coalesce" 18:22:46 maybe not coalesce, that sounds like they combine into one elemental 18:22:59 "the walls break down your door and beat the shit out of you!" 18:23:00 solidify 18:23:00 shadowy makes them sound like shadows 18:23:06 yeah, shadowy doesn't sound right 18:23:09 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:23:20 also implies that the walls remain 18:23:24 I also honestly like the idea of the earth elementals just being walking walls 18:23:37 torch sticking out of one, half a window in another 18:23:40 heh 18:23:53 then they ought to be #s :p 18:24:00 Down With Console 18:24:02 "some nearby walls sprout arms and legs!" 18:24:15 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:24:19 #### 4 wall elementals 18:24:52 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:31:46 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:33:55 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:35:10 -!- archaeo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:36:23 bacon solely for improved fungus digestion 18:37:17 geekosaur: rip :( 18:37:39 pf, you tell me how to draw a wall tile in IRC then :p 18:38:13 (and then wait for the next unicode update :p ) 18:38:47 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:39:37 -!- xczxc has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:40:14 PF wants crawl to be webtiles only 18:40:45 because he hates information and knowledge 18:41:49 nah, it's because PF is dyslexic and has trouble sorting out letters 18:42:17 fwiw, I think the new Elf monsters are a great addition 18:42:22 !flip plathrop 18:42:23 (╯°□°)╯︵doɹɥʇɐld 18:42:24 oops 18:42:30 !flip PleasingFungus 18:42:31 (╯°□°)╯︵snƃunℲƃuᴉsɐǝlԀ 18:42:45 dpeg: Elf definitely feels less squishy :) 18:42:55 Grunt: yes, good changes 18:43:09 I didn't get to Elf:3 though, so cannot comment on prize vault 18:43:20 !send Elf:3 dpeg 18:43:20 Sending dpeg to Elf:3. 18:43:34 hrm, I'm not really criticizing new elf but 18:43:39 Grunt: Wheeeee! 18:43:40 it didn't really feel at all less squishy to me 18:43:48 !flip doɹɥʇɐld 18:43:49 (╯°□°)╯︵plɐʇɥɹop 18:43:50 :( 18:44:11 gammafunk: the dancing weapons were noticeably tankier than elves, in my games 18:44:25 well there's just not many of those that were much of a threat I found 18:44:30 gammafunk: what characters did you get there? 18:44:33 most dancing weapons are trivial 18:44:34 !lm gammafunk neworc Elf:3 s=char 18:44:35 One milestone for gammafunk (neworc Elf:3): GhMo 18:44:38 oh 18:44:45 i actually had one almost kill me somehow or other 18:44:49 just the ghmo, but that char didn't have amazing defenses or anything 18:45:01 gammafunk: you are better than the rest of us!!!! 18:45:18 I know I 'm much better than amalloy, yeah. It's silly to even compare 18:45:29 . . . 18:45:37 and if he tries to compare, I'll ban him from my stream 18:45:57 twitch FR mods can timeout the streamer for hubris 18:46:12 no but seriously, I think elf could still use some non-elf things; I admit I've only played through it once 18:46:28 I'll try to make sure to do it on my upcoming musu...but those have an easy time in elf 18:46:33 !remove elves from Elf 18:46:33 gammafunk: yes, but now there's something unelfy in there, we can tweak numbers 18:46:34 03amalloy * 0.18-a0-507-g938ae81: Remove elves from Elf 10(in the future, 21 files, 672+ 647-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=938ae81 18:47:37 !remove removal from amalloy. 18:47:38 03Grunt * 0.18-a0-508-gbd71524: Remove removal from amalloy. 10(in the future, 33 files, 459+ 567-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bd71524 18:47:42 dpeg: I'm not sure there's a monster we can tweak that's strongly not in the "relatively low defenses, uses ranged attacks mostly" mold 18:48:03 we got: dancing weapons, debm 18:48:23 de knights sort of are supposed to have melee 18:48:26 @??deep_elf_knight 18:48:27 deep elf knight (10e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 11 | HP: 39-58 | AC/EV: 1/14 | Dam: 21 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(80) | XP: 803 | Sp: stone arrow (3d18), mystic blast (3d16), haste, s.golubria / throw icicle (3d20), haste, invisibility, condensation shield | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 18:48:30 i found the archers to be much more troublesome than i expected, on a MiEE. impossible to chase them down 18:48:39 gammafunk: the elementals? 18:48:49 i had a shapeshifter that turned into a juggernaut a little while back =p 18:48:58 that was extremely problematic 18:48:59 oh those won't do a lot if you do elf at like, what xl 19 or so 18:49:19 yeah shifters can be really nasty in the right circumstance 18:49:54 gammafunk: I was going to adjust knights at some point to be a bit more melee-focused 18:50:00 yeah, could be nice 18:50:04 this was prior to the revamp, but it was still fun dealing with that while trying to manage a demonologist and a sorcerer 18:50:38 I guess we don't want Elf to feel like "reskinned Vaults" 18:50:58 but mostly that can come from layout, and some unique kinds of threats in the spell sets 18:51:03 which we already have a bunch of 18:51:30 hrm, what was that kw 18:51:33 !kw neworc 18:51:34 Keyword: neworc => vlong>=0.18-a0-752-ga64f057 18:51:46 .awoken 18:51:47 1. fdshfn the Executioner (L22 DDFi of Makhleb), slain by an earth elemental (summoned by a deep elf elementalist) on Elf:3 on 2015-12-14 19:55:58, with 399498 points after 45748 turns and 2:53:14. 18:51:48 nice 18:51:49 !lm * br.enter=elf x=avg(xl) 18:51:51 98855 milestones for * (br.enter=elf): avg(xl)=17.66 18:51:51 still just 1? 18:52:04 !cmd .awoken 18:52:04 Command: .awoken => !lg * trunk killer=earth_elemental ikiller~~elementalist $* 18:52:43 !kw tiles 18:52:43 Built-in: tiles => tiles=true 18:52:55 !lm * br.enter=elf neworc / lg:br=elf 18:53:00 51/410 milestones for * (br.enter=elf neworc): N=51/410 (12.44%) 18:53:07 !lm * br.enter=elf recent !neworc / lg:br=elf 18:53:12 4027/27731 milestones for * (br.enter=elf recent !neworc): N=4027/27731 (14.52%) 18:53:31 !commitby Grunt Nerf Elf 18:53:31 03Grunt * 0.18-a0-509-gc0bd7ce: Nerf Elf 10(in the future, 17 files, 808+ 916-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c0bd7ce 18:54:04 !lm * br.enter=elf neworc xl>=15 xl<=20 / lg:br=elf 18:54:09 42/310 milestones for * (br.enter=elf neworc xl>=15 xl<=20): N=42/310 (13.55%) 18:54:16 !lm * br.enter=elf recent !neworc xl>=15 xl<=20 / lg:br=elf 18:54:21 2882/19008 milestones for * (br.enter=elf recent !neworc xl>=15 xl<=20): N=2882/19008 (15.16%) 18:54:59 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:55:12 Grunt: deep elf terpsichores 18:55:24 maybe they should summon dancing weapons 18:55:34 dancing launchers and rods 18:55:39 and dancing spellbooks 18:57:15 -!- Guest29397 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:57:21 deep elf sword dancers 18:57:23 <.< 18:57:40 SWORDOMANCER 18:57:46 MACEOLOGIST 18:57:50 AXECUTIONER 18:58:45 -!- Sage1234 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:59:49 har 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:07 todo: SPTYPs for the non-magic skills 19:02:08 * dpeg spots another chance for actually dancing weapons 19:03:34 FR: unrandart unique: Axophone, the dancing and singing weapon 19:03:51 <3 19:04:46 axolotl, which clones you... but you have to win before it finishes or your clone kills you 19:05:40 s/clones/slowly &/ 19:10:30 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:13:25 hmmm. i thought it sounded like something that i'd never use, but now that i'm trying "dismissal i definitely see a niche for it 19:13:31 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:19:10 -!- ventricule has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:19:29 elf rework: make it like tomb. elf1 is special hall of blades encompass-style entry, elf:2 is old elf:3 end vault only 19:20:40 -!- Taq has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:21:57 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 19:27:33 ruwin (L24 MiFi) ERROR in 'mon-place.cc' at line 1213: invalid monster to place: removed MONS_DEEP_ELF_CONJURER (212) (Vaults:5) 19:27:38 ?? ? ? 19:27:39 I don't have a page labeled ?_? in my learndb. 19:27:46 !crashlog ruwin 19:27:47 1. ruwin, XL24 MiFi, T:68415 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/ruwin/crash-ruwin-20151221-002731.txt 19:28:00 ugh 19:29:04 -!- asdad has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:29:22 03Grunt02 07* 0.18-a0-854-ga559b8c: Don't let the mercenary card try to spawn deep elf conjurers. 10(43 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a559b8c46087 19:31:22 not sure if that had been mantis'd 19:32:01 -!- } has quit [] 19:32:59 heh 19:33:13 pacified summons don't count as pacified since... they don't have MF_GOT_HALF_XP set 19:34:23 because you don't get any XP from them! 19:44:26 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-855-g620ab6a: Change spell_direction to take a direction_chooser_args. 10(2 hours ago, 9 files, 107+ 109-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/620ab6a06c44 19:44:26 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-856-gc5bc93d: Reduce the scope of a variable. 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 17+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c5bc93d09f42 19:44:26 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-857-g275d108: Refactor cast_healing. 10(89 minutes ago, 4 files, 95+ 124-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/275d1089c55a 19:44:26 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-858-gee8c330: Rename MF_GOT_HALF_XP to MF_PACIFIED and give it to summons (#5684). 10(43 seconds ago, 5 files, 10+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ee8c3303fd88 19:44:55 i spent a while today searching for a "bug" that was just caused by leaving &E on 19:44:59 !blame3 amalloy 19:45:00 aaaaamaaaaalloooooyyyyy 19:45:10 rip 19:45:39 i actually considered making it a DUR_ with a statuslight 19:45:47 03Grunt02 07* 0.18-a0-859-g7281719: Make swamp worms amphibious. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/728171904ee3 19:45:47 03Grunt02 07* 0.18-a0-860-g107efc9: Remove most instances of M_SUBMERGES. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/107efc94d28a 19:45:55 i didn't, although i don't really recall why 19:46:32 maybe because the notion of a duration that only applies while time is frozen doesn't really sound like a duration 19:47:15 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:51:16 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 19:56:36 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:08:20 -!- roadmap has joined ##crawl-dev 20:12:15 -!- lvanderpool has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:13:05 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:14:24 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-861-gef3a054: Fix holy pacification text (#8951). 10(8 minutes ago, 2 files, 8+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ef3a054b9468 20:17:03 might as well see if Aura of Brilliance works in trunk 20:17:12 (letting the priest act while it is active for now) 20:17:25 03Grunt02 07* 0.18-a0-862-g19433d8: Monster spell: Aura of Brilliance, for deep elf high priests. 10(8 weeks ago, 11 files, 131+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/19433d8af817 20:18:43 !seen rchandra 20:18:44 I last saw rchandra at Wed Dec 16 10:50:54 2015 UTC (4d 14h 27m 48s ago) parting ##crawl-dev, saying 'chanpart'. 20:18:50 !seen wheals 20:18:51 I last saw wheals at Mon Dec 21 01:18:42 2015 UTC (8s ago) saying '!seen rchandra' on ##crawl-dev. 20:19:00 !seen grunt_ 20:19:01 I last saw Grunt_ at Sun Jun 21 00:36:33 2015 UTC (26w 1d 42m 26s ago) quitting, saying '*.net *.split'. 20:19:08 o_O 20:20:01 !seen grunt__ 20:20:01 Sorry wheals, I haven't seen grunt__. 20:20:03 rip 20:20:08 !seen wheals_ 20:20:08 I last saw wheals_ at Wed Dec 16 01:47:37 2015 UTC (4d 23h 32m 30s ago) joining the channel. 20:20:10 !seen wheals__ 20:20:11 I last saw wheals__ at Tue Dec 15 15:38:29 2015 UTC (5d 9h 41m 40s ago) joining the channel. 20:20:13 !seen wheals___ 20:20:13 Sorry Grunt, I haven't seen wheals___. 20:20:15 dang 20:20:20 !seen wwwhhheeeaaalllsss 20:20:20 Sorry Grunt, I haven't seen wwwhhheeeaaalllsss. 20:20:30 -!- wheals is now known as wwwhhheeeaaallls 20:20:36 ! 20:25:49 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:29:35 -!- Sage1234 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:29:57 dangit Grunt you keep making my pushes rejected 20:30:03 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-863-ga25eb0e: Don't waste a turn by targetting the wall when pacifying (#8950). 10(36 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a25eb0ef521b 20:30:35 !push wheals 20:30:46 !reject Grunt 20:30:50 !fast-forward Grunt 20:31:36 !rebase wheals 20:31:37 Grunt rebases wheals. Wheals is banished to the reflog! 20:32:51 -!- Earlo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:34:16 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:35:16 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 20:36:15 rrriiippp 20:36:18 -!- wwwhhheeeaaallls is now known as wheals 20:39:28 elves have a lot of spell books now 20:39:43 i thought part of the idea of reducing elf variety was to reduce elf variety :P 20:39:57 now instead of different colour elves with different spells you have same colour elves with different spells 20:40:26 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:40:59 FR same-color elves with spells that are of different colors but otherwise the same 20:41:40 at the end of the game, you can pick up the purple orb of zot, the blue orb of zot, or the green orb of zot 20:44:43 the Orb should give you a superpower that you can use on the orb run, depending which color you choose 20:45:05 you'll need these powers, as you are beset by hordes of pan lords 20:45:42 what color lets me play tower defense? 20:47:54 darkgreen 20:48:07 picking it up converts you to Fedhas and gives you a stack of fruit 20:55:37 do you take the red zot, or the blue zot?? 20:57:21 fun fact: Zot:5 was red for a short time 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02:16 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:05:16 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:05:41 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-864-gb675b1a: Don't create a cloud when breathing into an adjacent wall as a red drac (#2917). 10(58 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b675b1ab048f 21:06:36 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:10:06 wheals: imo put the cloud on the player's location <.< >.> 21:10:10 * Grunt hides. 21:10:17 Grunt: that's what it did 21:10:30 problem was there was no prompt 21:10:39 i decided this was the easier solution 21:10:43 rip. 21:13:03 -!- lvanderpool has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:14:01 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 21:15:10 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 21:15:27 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:16:48 PleasingFungus: 21:16:50 %git HEAD^ 21:16:50 07wheals02 * 0.18-a0-863-ga25eb0e: Don't waste a turn by targetting the wall when pacifying (#8950). 10(47 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a25eb0ef521b 21:16:52 %git HEAD^^ 21:16:52 07Grunt02 * 0.18-a0-862-g19433d8: Monster spell: Aura of Brilliance, for deep elf high priests. 10(8 weeks ago, 11 files, 131+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/19433d8af817 21:16:59 in case you wanted to use that ENCH for something 21:17:28 ah, cool implementation 21:18:02 wrt retrying failed spells 21:18:08 ya 21:19:12 -!- Tpain has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:19:52 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:22:08 huh 21:22:08 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:22:16 wheals: interesting fix for 2917 21:22:40 i'm stuck in beam hell today 21:22:47 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:22:53 beem... 21:23:07 really, you can't truly appreciate beam.cc if you don't bring in directn.cc and target.cc as well 21:23:20 bad ideas: invisible walls (revealed when you step into them) (also don't block beams, for sanity, so maybe make them invisible chasms...?) 21:23:24 (obviously direction.cc would be a dumb name) 21:23:25 is target.cc that bad 21:23:31 directn is awful ofc 21:23:42 it's more about how everything (somehow!?) fits together 21:24:01 the whole is worse than the difference of its parts 21:25:59 target.cc isn't *terrible* 21:26:10 I understood it well enough to write a few new targetters 21:26:22 fun fact: one of my original significant accomplishments was fixing up target.cc to display bolt bounces 21:26:32 and 21:26:35 AoE of AoE spells 21:26:43 -!- PleasingFungus has left ##crawl-dev 21:26:47 oops 21:26:49 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:26:50 wait 21:26:55 fireball wouldn't display the area? 21:26:58 correct 21:27:00 I added that :) 21:27:01 wow 21:27:08 it was especially bad with Ice Storm 21:27:19 I like the new wand charges display 21:27:33 %git :/wand 21:27:33 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-845-gc59c8fa: Show wand max charges in the inventory (coledot) 10(33 hours ago, 2 files, 4+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c59c8fab1814 21:27:38 thank coledot! 21:27:58 i hear this PutridFungus fellow may have been involved tangentially as well 21:28:12 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-865-gb70d30c: Abort the targetter entirely when choosing a bad position (#1531). 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b70d30ce0aba 21:29:07 i forget what our standard on target[t]er is these days 21:29:28 standards....!? 21:29:56 -!- Cacophony has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:31:26 ??devteam[26 21:31:27 devteam[26/27]: let me check our house style hm, looks like we're wildly inconsistent 21:35:20 looks like one t 21:35:35 despite using two l's in travelling 21:37:40 7071 is really takin' a beating 21:38:41 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 21:39:07 yep, it's my Compendium of Beam Awfulness 21:40:29 beam?? 21:40:35 ... 21:40:46 ??beam 21:40:47 I don't have a page labeled beam in my learndb. Did you mean: beak, bear, beem. 21:40:54 ??beam.cc 21:40:55 beam.cc[1/5]: Q: What's the difference between a bolt and a beam? A: One leg is both the same. 21:41:15 gotta go to bed, but one question for you guys to ponder: 21:41:37 !send bed dpeg 21:41:38 Sending dpeg to bed. 21:42:08 there's this IndieDB GotY poll (or whatever), in which TOME, ADOM, Cogmind and URW are in the top 100 (as roguelikes, that is) 21:42:24 Crawl isn't, because someone has registered as/for DCSS, and got banned in 2010 :) 21:42:31 do we care about this at all? 21:43:05 DCSS: too indie for indie 21:43:19 <3 21:43:36 where other games sell out, we have Gozag 21:44:23 anyway, if someone thinks we should try to get DCSS into the list, so that it's not present with an ancient version, tell me... I'd drop the IndieDB guys a mail 21:44:31 !messages 21:44:32 No messages for dpeg. 21:44:37 !tell dpeg No messages for dpeg. 21:44:38 Grunt: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 21:44:39 Grunt: ha, there is life after message 21:44:40 dpeg: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 21:44:57 !tell Grunt No massages for Grunt. 21:44:58 dpeg: OK, I'll let grunt know. 21:45:19 !tell Grunt No messages for TZerO 21:45:20 wheals: OK, I'll let grunt know. 21:45:28 !tell dpeg dpeg: You have 1 massage. Use !massage to claim it. 21:45:29 Grunt: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 21:45:29 Grunt: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 21:45:45 maybe I should've taken this to c-r-d... but now: message free sleep 21:45:45 dpeg: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 21:45:50 !tell wheals wwwhhheeeaaalllsss 21:45:51 Grunt: OK, I'll let wheals know. 21:46:05 i implemented #1558 but i may have done so too generally 21:46:08 !bug 1558 21:46:08 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1558 21:46:51 .echo $(map (fn (c) (!tell Grunt Did you get my message?)) (range 1 10)) 21:46:52 gammafunk: OK, I'll let grunt know. gammafunk: OK, I'll let grunt know. gammafunk: OK, I'll let grunt know. gammafunk: OK, I'll let grunt know. gammafunk: OK, I'll let grunt know. gammafunk: OK, I'll let grunt know. gammafunk: OK, I'll let grunt know. gammafunk: OK, I'll let grunt know. gammafunk: OK, I'll let grunt know. gammafunk: OK, I'll let grunt know. 21:46:57 so trying to fire past at the floor just past an ogre gives you " Your line of fire to the targeted floor is blocked by an ogre. Continue anyway?" 21:47:14 wheals: lmao @ your pcloud bug resolution 21:47:16 maybe i could only have the prompt if you're targetting a monster 21:47:39 .echo $(map (fn (c) (!tell gammafunk Come see the abuse inherent in the !messages!)) (range 1 100)) 21:47:50 Grunt: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. Grunt: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. Grunt: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. Grunt: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. Grunt: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. Grunt: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. Grunt: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. Grunt: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. Grunt: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. Grunt: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. Grunt: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. Grun... 21:48:03 PleasingFungus: it wasn't even deleted, he just never uploaded it! 21:49:08 it's just funny 21:49:14 that bug was sitting unresolved for years 21:50:21 -!- Cacophony has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:51:09 -!- Cacophony has quit [Changing host] 21:51:09 * wheals whether a lot of places in the code could use a boolean flag for monster_at to only give visible ones 21:51:16 wonders, rather 21:52:11 Q: whether wheals? 21:52:20 A: one of its patches is both the same. 21:52:55 -!- uJellie has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:56:38 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 21:58:52 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:59:56 -!- donblas has joined ##crawl-dev 22:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:52 -!- Placid has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:02:13 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Client Quit] 22:04:10 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:04:41 -!- Placid_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:07:23 :o 22:07:26 The deep elf knight picks up a scroll labeled SULEIG UNOTTUO. 22:08:01 I feel like I saw something I wasn't supposed to ;) 22:08:06 -!- eb_ has quit [] 22:08:46 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-866-g8ca37a9: Prompt if a (non-beam) beam's line of fire is blocked by firewood (#1558). 10(26 seconds ago, 1 file, 9+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8ca37a9401c0 22:08:54 <|amethyst> presumably an unvisited stack 22:08:58 they can pick up items that are in the middle of stacks you haven't seen. 22:09:00 yes. 22:09:07 *you haven't walked over 22:10:04 oh interesting 22:11:34 <|amethyst> hm 22:11:40 hm?? 22:11:40 <|amethyst> hm 22:11:41 <|amethyst> does aura of brilliance work through glass? 22:11:57 ok, up to 81% - https://gist.github.com/chamons/c435f266c40f6eed1dec 22:11:58 for (actor_near_iterator ai(agent, LOS_NO_TRANS); ai; ++ai) 22:12:00 <|amethyst> aha 22:12:01 |amethyst: no 22:12:09 it would work through grates though 22:12:26 is it an aura? 22:12:29 area 22:12:34 wheals: it isn't an area at present 22:12:46 colour suggestions welcome though <.< 22:12:47 unless anyone has complaints, I'm going to copy all of the files in question into a tiles "release" and call it for now (until I hear back from more / awhile passes) 22:12:49 <|amethyst> I don't think we really have enough colours left to add any more areas 22:12:52 more like a toropor snail i guess 22:12:56 ya 22:12:56 torpor 22:13:02 (to both of you) 22:13:14 anyone on SA who wants to try to contact Bloax? 22:13:32 I spot Bloax on webtiles occasionally 22:13:34 Not particularly. 22:13:42 -!- minmay has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:13:42 -!- minqmay has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:13:42 understandable 22:13:56 Grunt: I hear there are problems with adding more area types 22:13:57 involving overlapping areas 22:14:24 PleasingFungus: it's basically 22:14:37 how do you depict on console a tile with multiple areas 22:15:14 it's iffy enough in tiles 22:16:24 FR: remove console 22:16:33 !remove johnstein 22:16:34 03Grunt * 0.18-a0-510-g77c8be3: Remove johnstein 10(in the future, 8 files, 837+ 523-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=77c8be3 22:17:05 possible solution: 256 colour console 22:17:06 <.< 22:17:42 24-bit colour console 22:17:51 I don't think those exist yet....... 22:18:10 you'd be surprised what you can do with $WINDOWID >.> 22:22:10 -!- vev has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:22:29 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 22:26:10 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:29:16 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:33:21 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:35:09 -!- Cacophony has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:35:19 -!- Cacophony has quit [Changing host] 22:36:31 Grunt: oh, de archers in the archer zig set? 22:36:47 oh 22:36:49 also did you add the new elfs to the elfs setfs 22:37:00 the elf set is odd 22:37:09 yeah, heh 22:37:16 man, wonder how those new priests 22:37:18 will function in that 22:37:24 mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 22:37:29 probably not do too much since you just firestorm it all 22:37:37 but for dudes without big aoe it would be funny maybe 22:37:38 the elf set doesn't have the complete set of Elf:$ enemies 22:37:55 I know it has...well I should just look 22:38:07 local d = 300 - 10 * you.depth() 22:38:07 return "place:Elf:$ w:" .. d .. " / deep elf high priest / " .. 22:38:10 "deep elf blademaster / deep elf master archer / " .. 22:38:12 "deep elf annihilator / deep elf demonologist" 22:38:13 already looking at it 22:38:17 that's how I can comment 22:38:17 <.< 22:38:34 well it does since it does place:Elf:3, no? 22:38:48 let me rephrase my statement 22:38:51 unless you ..yeah 22:38:52 I got you 22:38:55 it doesn't *explicitly* place 22:38:56 yes 22:39:08 so false alarm, put me on ignore 22:39:13 /ignore gammafunk 22:39:27 although there *is* the archer set 22:39:34 with_props("centaur / yaktaur / centaur warrior / yaktaur captain / " .. 22:39:35 but I guess master archers are better? 22:39:37 "cyclops / stone giant / faun w:1 / satyr w:2 / " .. 22:39:39 "thorn hunter w:2 / naga sharpshooter / " .. 22:39:40 that's a really stupid set in some ways 22:39:43 "merfolk javelineer / deep elf master archer", { weight = 2 }), 22:40:03 yeah I've never heard of people having trouble with those levels too much 22:40:16 needs to drop the lower level enemies <.< 22:40:19 plain centaurs/yaktaurs 22:40:43 !fight deep elf archer v centaur delay:50 t:30 22:41:14 good 22:41:17 !fight deep elf archer v yaktaur delay:50 t:30 22:41:24 fr: varmin announces fights when they're requested 22:41:36 ya 22:41:36 <|amethyst> !tell wheals if I aim past a plant into the floor I get a warning, but if I am past a plant into the wall I do not 22:41:37 |amethyst: OK, I'll let wheals know. 22:41:57 I'm surprised that that wasn't 30-0 22:42:00 <|amethyst> s/am/aim/ but I think wheals will figure it out 22:42:04 !fight deep elf archer v centaur warrior delay:50 t:30 22:42:21 ...wow 22:42:23 hm 22:42:25 interesting 22:42:44 !fight deep elf archer v yaktaur captain delay:50 t:30 22:42:53 lol 22:42:57 neat 22:42:58 this isn't going well 22:43:20 tbf you have the band situation with yaktaur caps 22:43:29 !fight deep elf archer v faun delay:50 t:30 22:43:38 is that a joke?! 22:44:01 surprised the faun won any 22:44:06 !fight deep elf archer v satyr delay:50 t:30 22:44:25 now *this* is interesting 22:45:07 weird how it got that string of victories, but such are stochastic things 22:45:24 ya 22:45:32 well it's probably for the best that it's worse than all those things 22:45:34 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:45:39 since you fight it after fighting all those things 22:45:46 ? 22:46:00 worse meaning dangerous 22:46:03 ah 22:46:11 oh 22:46:13 one more to try 22:46:15 for posterity 22:46:20 |amethyst: that's the !cell_is_solid(target) 22:46:23 !fight deep elf archer v deep elf master archer delay:50 t:30 22:46:24 yes 22:46:26 not sure why it's there 22:46:45 now if that had been the reverse it'd be truly funny 22:47:04 !fight deep elf archer v merfolk javelineer delay:50 t:30 22:47:10 elf:1-2 becomes more dangerous than elf:3 22:47:19 haha, javelineers still own it 22:47:22 good 22:47:26 Shoals Supremacy 22:47:47 !fight deep elf archer v naga sharpshooter delay:50 t:30 22:48:00 yeah they're probably one of the biggest reasons why shoals has the reputation it does 22:48:15 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:48:18 nice, pretty even 22:48:25 wow 22:48:26 good 22:48:41 !fight deep elf archer v thorn hunter delay:50 t:30 22:49:24 interesting 22:49:44 of course with these things, fighting it as a player isn't really the same as !fight 22:49:45 <|amethyst> FR: varmin reports back to the channel 22:49:49 ya 22:49:53 I made that FR just now! 22:49:58 gammafunk: here's a glorious example of that 22:50:06 !fight mnoleg band v gloorx vloq band delay:50 t:30 22:50:11 I better get first billing in the parenthetical commit credit 22:50:41 03wheals02 07* 0.18-a0-867-gfd1cc8f: Improve consistency (|amethyst). 10(8 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fd1cc8f36bde 22:50:56 speaking of 22:50:57 !commit Improve wheals (consistency). 22:50:59 03Grunt * 0.18-a0-511-ged747ec: Improve wheals (consistency). 10(in the future, 41 files, 345+ 489-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed747ec 22:51:08 !remove consistency 22:51:09 wait, how does this exemplify what I said? 22:51:09 03wheals * 0.18-a0-512-gb5e12c0: Remove consistency 10(in the future, 4 files, 359+ 884-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b5e12c0 22:51:20 just parenthetical commit credit 22:51:24 gammafunk: I think I was thinking of a different fight than this 22:51:28 oh ok 22:51:30 one of the other pairs of major panlords 22:51:33 Because gloorx is worse for the player to fight 22:51:38 and gloorx is winning 22:51:45 oh 22:51:48 -!- Cacophony has quit [Quit: oh no am scare] 22:51:50 I think I remember which fight it was now 22:51:52 !fight cancel 22:52:00 !fight mnoleg band v lom lobon band delay:50 t:30 22:52:05 hah 22:52:09 he has a band? 22:52:17 the bands show up when they're pursuing you 22:52:20 what on earth... 22:52:27 yes, this is the fight I was thinking of 22:52:30 how is mnoleg even winning 22:53:13 I've never watched this extremely carefully, but I suspect that either a) Lom just gets overwhelmed with summons or b) chaos effects 22:53:13 looks like through XXX 22:53:15 somehow 22:53:28 yeah maybe some funny interaction 22:53:30 I mean, Lom has a great anti-crowd set 22:53:35 where mnoleg gets anti-magiced 22:54:00 what all does he do to the X at present? 22:54:06 give them random mostly good brands, right 22:54:10 did I remember to document call of chaos 22:54:12 ??call of chaos 22:54:13 I don't have a page labeled call_of_chaos in my learndb. 22:54:15 I did not 22:54:19 I could see the hits in lom piling up, slowing him etc 22:54:23 and anti-magic 22:54:26 then he's helpless 22:54:43 litereally hasn't won a single fight, the poor eyeball 22:54:45 !learn add call_of_chaos Sort of a chaos battlecry - applies mostly positive (~85% chance) effects to nearby allies. Possessed by {chaos champion}s and {Mnoleg}. 22:54:46 call of chaos[1/1]: Sort of a chaos battlecry - applies mostly positive (~85% chance) effects to nearby allies. Possessed by {chaos champion}s and {Mnoleg}. 22:55:35 !learn add call_of_chaos Positive effects: haste, might, berserk, agility, resistance, or blink close. 22:55:36 call of chaos[2/2]: Positive effects: haste, might, berserk, agility, resistance, or blink close. 22:55:57 Moral of the story: gammafunk gets spells from Grunt, defeats Grunt 22:56:12 !learn add call_of_chaos Negative effects: slow, paralysis, confusion, disintegration, petrification, sleep, vulnerability, unravel magic, ensnare (very low chance). 22:56:12 call of chaos[3/3]: Negative effects: slow, paralysis, confusion, disintegration, petrification, sleep, vulnerability, unravel magic, ensnare (very low chance). 22:56:24 previously gammafunk got spells from gammafunk, was defeated by Grunt 22:56:24 !learn add call_of_chaos Fitting into neither category: random blink. 22:56:25 call of chaos[4/4]: Fitting into neither category: random blink. 22:56:26 -!- Runnr has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:56:48 !lg * cikiller=mnoleg 22:56:50 79. Dreemurr the Archmage (L27 DEWz of Vehumet), mangled by Mnoleg (kmap: evilmike_mnoleg_eyes) in Pandemonium on 2015-11-14 08:12:58, with 1289948 points after 150353 turns and 13:56:52. 22:57:11 !learn edit call_of_chaos[4] s/\.$/ (~7% chance)./ 22:57:12 call of chaos[4/4]: Fitting into neither category: random blink (~7% chance). 22:57:13 !lg * current trunk br=pan s=cikiller% 22:57:17 83 games for * (current trunk br=pan): 12x a Brimstone Fiend (14.46%), 10x a hellion (12.05%), 10x a pandemonium lord (12.05%), 8x Cerebov (9.64%), 8x Lom Lobon (9.64%), 4x a cacodemon (4.82%), 4x Gloorx Vloq (4.82%), 4x (4.82%), 3x an Executioner (3.61%), 3x a Hell Sentinel (3.61%), 2x a daeva (2.41%), 2x an angel (2.41%), a Shadow Fiend (1.20%), a smoke demon (1.20%), a seraph (1.20%), a blizzar... 22:57:24 %git HEAD^{/Call of Chaos} 22:57:24 07Grunt02 * 0.18-a0-780-gd1db97e: Convert Chaotic Mirror into Call of Chaos and give to Mnoleg. 10(8 days ago, 11 files, 113+ 82-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d1db97e94c81 22:57:25 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:57:32 !lg * vlong>=0.18-a0-780-gd1db97e pan s=cikiller 22:57:34 15 games for * (vlong>=0.18-a0-780-gd1db97e pan): 2x Gloorx Vloq, 2x a hellion, 2x Lom Lobon, a shadow demon, a pandemonium lord, an infernal warmonger, , a cacodemon, a monstrous corrupter, a Brimstone Fiend, a balrug, a Hell Sentinel 22:57:36 nice 22:57:43 !lg * vlong>=0.18-a0-780-gd1db97e pan map~~mnoleg 22:57:45 1. bonger the Skullcrusher (L27 DsGl of Okawaru), mangled by a cacodemon in Pandemonium (evilmike_mnoleg_eyes) on 2015-12-18 23:27:30, with 869600 points after 89778 turns and 9:30:54. 22:57:45 !lg * vlong>=0.18-a0-780-gd1db97e pan kmap~~mnoleg 22:57:47 1. bonger the Skullcrusher (L27 DsGl of Okawaru), mangled by a cacodemon in Pandemonium (evilmike_mnoleg_eyes) on 2015-12-18 23:27:30, with 869600 points after 89778 turns and 9:30:54. 22:57:53 -!- nimitz_ has quit [Quit: .] 22:57:58 that one is basically cikiller=stupidity 22:57:59 the int drain guy 22:58:01 yeah 22:58:07 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:58:16 ktype=stupid_remove 22:59:29 with_props("deep elf archer / yaktaur captain / " .. 22:59:29 "cyclops / stone giant / faun w:1 / satyr w:2 / " .. 22:59:29 "thorn hunter w:2 / naga sharpshooter / " .. 22:59:29 "merfolk javelineer / deep elf master archer", { weight = 2 }), 22:59:32 ? 22:59:39 oh remove fauns 22:59:42 @??faun 22:59:42 faun (03c) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 39-60 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Dam: 23 | 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(40) | XP: 540 | Sp: corona, confuse / corona, slow | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 22:59:49 yeah I think so 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:49 not sure we need cyclops either 23:01:03 maybe in the spirit of thorn hunters 23:01:04 we can add 23:01:06 the occasional 23:01:07 iron giant 23:01:12 <.< 23:01:14 -!- SaintWacko has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 23:01:43 that's a bit of a stretch...hm I guess all the current ones use actual projectiles instead of spells 23:01:48 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 23:01:49 thorn hunters don't 23:01:58 (((why are they there then))) 23:02:21 yeah but that's a not-really-a-spell although I guess the distinction is pretty arbitarry 23:02:24 well there is silence 23:02:33 * Grunt throws iron shot at gammafunk. 23:02:42 !ironshot Grunt 23:02:42 gammafunk points at Grunt and mumbles some strange words. The iron shot hits Grunt!!! 23:02:46 !lcs gammafunk 23:02:47 Grunt gestures at gammafunk while chanting. The crystal spear hits gammafunk!!! 23:02:51 !iood gammafunk 23:02:52 Grunt launches a ball of destructive magic. The orb of destruction hits gammafunk!!!!! 23:02:53 oh 23:02:55 how about 23:02:57 orb. 23:02:58 spiders. 23:03:30 dang 23:03:48 with w:2 maybe 23:04:00 w:200 23:04:04 an entire floor of orb spiders 23:04:05 <.< 23:04:24 hrm it's a bit weird for me to edit in this way, since other sets have more popcorn tier enemies 23:04:40 maybe it should be more comprehensive; another problem is use of Place: will bring in popcorn stuff 23:04:51 on sets that use that (in some cases) 23:05:18 I'll have to sit down and do something a bit more rational 23:05:36 but I'll just add deep elf archers for now and not make the other reductions 23:05:51 gammafunk... rational...!? 23:06:08 I don't know how to be rational, I'll just fake it 23:06:28 !learn add gammafunk I don't know how to be rational, I'll just fake it 23:06:29 gammafunk[6/6]: I don't know how to be rational, I'll just fake it 23:06:31 muhahahaha 23:06:44 finally, an accurate entry 23:06:49 learn add 23:12:01 -!- Dixlet has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:13:44 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:14:01 -!- lvanderpool has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:18:07 -!- roadmap has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:21:05 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 23:25:01 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 23:28:55 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:30:32 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:34:01 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:48:52 -!- noobcanoe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:51:58 -!- Krakhan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:52:33 why is vit status text white and not blue 23:53:36 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 23:55:20 because it's divine, i think. recite and scry are white too 23:55:43 but trog's hand isn't, so...i dunno, maybe there is another reason 23:56:07 PleasingFungus: well done on your emoji commit messages btw 23:56:14 :) 23:56:29 :feelgood: 23:56:41 bad SA emoji! 23:56:53 :goberserk: 23:56:55 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:57:38 Grunt: why does the aura of billiance last once the priest is gone? I'mg uessing to prevent some degenerative behaviour? 23:57:50 ?? ? ? 23:57:51 I don't have a page labeled ?_? in my learndb. 23:58:00 it should expire after the priest dies 23:58:44 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf]