00:00:05 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:07 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:05:15 -!- Time_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:08:28 -!- Cacophony has quit [Quit: oh no am scare] 00:09:49 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:10:07 I really love that we have dozens and dozens of unused sacrifice messages. 00:12:40 how long until literally zero of them are used?? 00:16:07 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:19:43 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:24:27 FR: change potion of experience to a scroll 00:25:19 you're just begging for mummy buffs. 00:25:22 I see right through you... 00:30:05 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:30:09 -!- Placid has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:30:26 -!- Jessika has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:35:18 see right through you...what would a transluscent mummy even look like, gross 00:35:59 i mean since you guys can't stop putting the damn things in as the only reward for doing a vault 00:38:58 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:40:28 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:44:32 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:46:43 @??apis 00:46:43 apis (00Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 100-136 | AC/EV: 9/5 | Dam: 4008(holy) | natural, 08holy | Res: 06magic(100), 08holy | XP: 1343 | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 00:46:47 how come these are natural holiness? 00:47:43 | natural, holy | 00:48:31 I repeat my question 00:49:17 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:49:20 -!- Poncheis_ is now known as Poncheis 00:49:36 %git 5d6d778 00:49:36 07ebering02 {PleasingFungus} * 0.18-a0-728-g5d6d778: Turn special cases into multi-holiness bits. (ds, plants, crabs, beasts) 10(12 months ago, 5 files, 24+ 31-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5d6d7783c5aa 00:50:33 Well, I only noticed this because I polymorphed an orb guardian into one, it just seems odd 00:50:48 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:50:55 -!- FireSight has quit [] 00:59:50 hey I tried to use generic loot and you made fun of me! 00:59:59 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:00:02 make up your minds, players 01:00:05 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:38 natural and holy...huh 01:04:35 -!- kaiza has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:18:05 -!- Placid has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:19:06 ??god letters 01:19:07 I don't have a page labeled god_letters in my learndb. 01:19:12 ??god names 01:19:12 gods[2/3]: Ashenzari, Beogh, Cheibriados, Dithmenos, Elyvilon, Fedhas, Gozag, Jiyva, Kikubaaqudgha, Lugonu, Makhleb, Nemelex Xobeh, Okawaru, Pakellas, Qazlal, Ru, Sif Muna, Trog, Vehumet, Xom, Yredelemnul, Zin, the Shining One. 01:19:16 ??gods [3] 01:19:17 gods[3/3]: Pre-DCSS: Z1KYXVOMSTNE; added in DCSS (chronologically): LBJFCADG*QRP * not quite right, ask Grunt for details 01:19:51 So we're missing H, I, U, and W 01:26:06 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 01:27:05 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:35:34 ??dungeon size 01:35:34 I don't have a page labeled dungeon_size in my learndb. 01:36:10 where do I find the max dungeon size? trying to estimate the max (walkable) area for a floor 01:36:38 80x70 01:36:40 ? 01:37:18 outer tile needs to be solid though 01:37:30 max walkable area is thus 78x68 01:44:42 -!- } has quit [] 01:51:07 oh hi Pak altar on D:10 01:53:19 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:55:18 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:55:51 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:01:44 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:01:59 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:10:27 ??encompass 02:10:27 encompass[1/1]: Makes a vault's layout be the whole level. Use after ORIENT: tag. 02:12:18 -!- kaiza has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:12:55 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 02:20:24 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:23:48 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:25:29 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 43.0.1/20151216175450]] 02:45:31 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-844-g9229740 02:49:27 -!- Foamed_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:54:37 -!- Dxctxrx has quit [Client Quit] 02:58:42 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 02:59:04 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 03:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:05:16 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:06:58 -!- argent0_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:07:07 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 03:07:33 wait, you guys removed the level 3 abjuration spell? 03:07:45 rip summon greater demons (not really) 03:08:01 yes 03:08:03 in return aura of abjuration was reduced to l5 03:13:50 i basically never cast abjure before, and i find aura fairly useful now when i can cast it 03:14:22 yeah I was thinking it was still in just for the case of "I'm using summon greater demon and I want to be safe against hostile rank 1 demons" 03:14:48 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:15:23 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:15:26 also just to check, since I'm not quite certain yet 03:15:47 wait wrong channel 03:26:41 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: Farewell.] 03:33:12 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:35:16 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:36:51 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 03:38:09 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:42:23 -!- Sovek has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:42:58 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:43:07 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 03:45:32 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:49:31 -!- Placid has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:49:38 -!- mumbologist has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:54:34 just saw a wight with a flaming weapon 03:54:52 will they just pick those up off of the floor? i'm pretty sure they don't spawn with flaming 03:55:32 I think they can spawn with brands 03:56:02 only freezing 03:56:28 right 03:56:46 and yeah, i don't see why they wouldn't pick one up 03:56:52 k 03:57:06 just thought maybe they'd avoid certain brands 03:57:13 only uniques do that i think 03:57:47 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:57:55 like mennas won't pick up any non-holy non-sword 03:58:03 ah 03:58:17 hmm 03:58:24 monsters can switch weapons if they start with one? 03:58:52 !source monster::wants_weapon 03:58:53 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/monster.cc#l1603 03:59:08 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:59:33 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:59:45 !source monster::pickup_weapon 03:59:46 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/monster.cc#l1935 03:59:53 hmm 04:00:05 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:18 what non-blademaster monster can dual wield, but not two handed weapons 04:00:57 !source monster::pickup_melee_weapon 04:00:58 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/monster.cc#l1491 04:02:34 CanOfWorms: none. only DEBM, ettin, 2hogre 04:02:38 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:03:05 heh 04:03:21 so l1616 is currently useless 04:03:44 unless two handed weapons are considered 1 handed for ettins I guess 04:03:55 FR remove all the useless lines in crawlcode 04:04:12 you mean remove crawl? 04:05:18 hah 04:05:58 well, 2h weapons must be considered 1h for ettins and 2ogres 04:06:17 since they routinely carry, for example, a giant club and a direflail 04:17:17 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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Are the loading screen images somewhere in the source files? 08:44:46 yes 08:44:46 !source title_baconkid_mnoleg.png 08:44:46 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/tiles/title_baconkid_mnoleg.png 08:44:46 MIC132: ^ 08:45:07 Ah, so just in dat/tiles? 08:45:42 for the loading screens, yes 08:46:00 Thanks 08:46:33 -!- MIC132 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:47:20 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:50:03 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 09:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:00:57 ??rod_of_demonology 09:00:57 rod of demonology[1/1]: A {rod} with Abjuration, Call Imp, and Summon Demon. (Good gods don't mind if you use abjuration from this rod, even though the rod is purple in your inventory.) 09:03:13 -!- Adum has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:07:36 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:10:17 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:14:03 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:14:05 .moon -tv:channel=moon:>$ 09:14:07 567. minmay, XL22 MuBe, T:53339 (milestone) requested for moon: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 09:14:17 time to finally watch this noobsauce play the gaem 09:15:43 haha mummies rekt by golden eyes 09:20:37 wow kills the demonic plants 09:20:39 who does that 09:22:08 lol good job statue 09:23:57 .moon -tv:channel=moon:>$:cancel 09:23:58 567. minmay, XL22 MuBe, T:53339 (milestone) cancel requested for moon: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 09:24:04 -!- Pinkish has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:26:32 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 09:28:05 !lg minmay 09:28:06 3838. minmay the Conqueror (L27 MuBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 5 runes on 2015-12-19 05:53:17, with 2567895 points after 102270 turns and 3:56:04. 09:29:28 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 09:57:24 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:06:53 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 10:15:51 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:19:26 ??wizards_without_wizlabs 10:19:27 wizards without wizlabs[1/2]: Spell namesakes: Leda, Lee, Alistair, Ozocubu, Borgnjor, Maxwell, Olgreb, Gell. Artifact smiths: Ukta ({hat of the bear spirit}), Black/Doom Knight, Octopus King, The Captain, The Alchemist, Zhor, Cekugob, the Botono. 10:19:58 ??skin_of_zhor 10:19:58 skin of zhor[1/1]: +4 animal skin with rC+++. 10:28:04 would be fun to kind of make a wizlab based on this, but it's not really wizlab material 10:28:21 oh but 10:28:37 er, never mind, it's just too weak to place as loot 10:34:50 -!- Pinkish has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:34:59 ?/cekugob 10:35:00 Matching terms (2): amulet_of_cekugob, cekugob; entries (5): amulet_of_cekugob[1] | cekugob[1] | crystal_amulet[1] | deep_elf_blademaster[2] | wizards_without_wizlabs[1] 10:35:08 ??amulet_of_cekugob 10:35:08 cekugob[1/1]: The amulet of Cekugob {Ward -Tele rElec rPois rN++ AC+1 EV+1}. 10:35:44 ?/maxwell 10:35:44 Matching terms (8): maxwell, maxwell's, maxwell's_armour, Maxwell's_Coffin, maxwell's_etheric_cage, maxwell's_patent_armour, maxwell's_silver_hammer, maxwells; entries (14): challenge[15] | edisons_patent_armour[1] | etheric_cage[1] | famous_last_messages[20] | maxwell[1] | maxwell's[1] | maxwell's_armour[1] | Maxwell's_Coffin[1] | maxwells[1] | named_wizards[1] | nooodl[3] | spells_that_do_not_ex... 10:35:47 gammafunk: it's an amulet of dismissal now 10:35:51 yeah 10:35:56 ??maxwell's_patent_armour 10:35:57 maxwell's patent armour[1/1]: +15 plate armour with -Cast, -Tele, MR+, rCorr, and rElec. 10:36:05 wasn't sure if it still had the same props 10:36:08 aside from that change 10:36:11 gotcha 10:36:27 !learn edit amulet_of_cekugob s/Ward/Dsmss/ 10:36:27 No change: regex `Ward` does not match `see {cekugob}` 10:36:45 heh 10:36:50 !learn edit cekugob s/Ward/Dsmss/ 10:36:51 cekugob[1/1]: The amulet of Cekugob {Dsmss -Tele rElec rPois rN++ AC+1 EV+1}. 10:37:01 I may have removed the extra rN+ 10:37:03 I don't recall 10:37:09 what hapened to the finger necklace? 10:37:11 ??finger 10:37:12 I don't have a page labeled finger in my learndb. 10:37:15 ?/finger 10:37:15 Matching terms (5): finger_necklace, fingernails, macabre_finger, macabre_finger_necklace, sharp_fingernails; entries (4): finger_necklace[1]: see {macabre_finger_necklace} | macabre[1]: see {macabre finger necklace} | macabre_finger[1]: see {macabre finger necklace} | technology[1]: nowadays I just lick my finger and put it in the usb port 10:37:19 nope I didn't 10:37:19 ??finger_necklace 10:37:19 macabre finger necklace[1/1]: A unique amulet of warding that gives you an extra ring slot. 10:37:29 Macabre is the same as always but w/o warding 10:37:32 it still has rN+ 10:37:37 I see 10:37:55 hrm we should give history for recent 10:38:22 ? 10:38:31 Lasty: then what's the base type of the necklace, amulet of nothing? 10:38:46 I could be not lazy and look itup 10:39:14 Lasty: I mean history for cekugob and finger necklace, mentioning that "it was in 0.17-" 10:39:18 at the end of the entry 10:39:37 yes, it is indeed nothing 10:40:11 !learn set macabre_finger_necklace A unrand amulet that gives rN+ and an extra ring slot. Also gave {warding} in 0.17-. 10:40:11 macabre finger necklace[1/1]: A unrand amulet that gives rN+ and an extra ring slot. Also gave {warding} in 0.17-. 10:40:30 gammafunk: yeah, amulet of noting 10:40:33 nothing 10:40:35 !send gammafunk macabre wizlabs 10:40:35 Sending macabre wizlabs to gammafunk. 10:40:40 fr: Amulet of Noting 10:40:47 {Noisy} 10:40:52 haha 10:40:57 "I see you took some damage there." 10:40:59 Grunt: I see how you managed to corner the designs of all the remaining good wizards for wizlabs, well done 10:41:01 Thanks, amulet. 10:41:09 gammafunk: muhahahahaha 10:41:20 You die... Your amulet says, "I like you, gammafunk." 10:41:32 s/like/liked/ 10:41:54 ??amulet_of_warding 10:41:55 warding[1/1]: Confers protection from some fraction of melee and ranged attacks (depends on MR) by summoned creatures. Will not prevent them from using spells, items or abilities. Can be obtained by wielding a staff of summoning or wearing the eponymous amulet. The amulet also provides rN+. 10:42:12 I was hoping to get a few more people chiming in on the issues-raised-by-new-amulets-etc threads I started. Grunt, any opinions on stuff? 10:42:13 * dpeg realises for the first time that gammafunk got his name from the gamme function. 10:42:21 *gamma function 10:42:22 dpeg: haha, really? 10:42:34 yes, I'm a bit slow :) 10:42:38 yeah I sat down and thought for like 30 minutes, and it seemed kind of cool 10:42:50 was doing a bunch of stat at the time 10:43:10 Lasty: did you see my input on cobs? 10:43:11 Lasty: it's okay I think, you got nicely diverging feedback, so you are now home free! :) 10:43:29 dpeg: haha 10:43:31 !learn edit cekugob[1] s/$/ Was an amulet of {warding} in 0.17-/ 10:43:31 cekugob[1/1]: The amulet of Cekugob {Dsmss -Tele rElec rPois rN++ AC+1 EV+1}. Was an amulet of {warding} in 0.17- 10:43:35 time to really mess things up! 10:43:40 !learn edit cekugob[1] s/$/./ 10:43:41 cekugob[1/1]: The amulet of Cekugob {Dsmss -Tele rElec rPois rN++ AC+1 EV+1}. Was an amulet of {warding} in 0.17-. 10:44:47 Grunt: ah, yeah, I did. I'm a little concerned that having it take a fixed amount of hunger has two effects: 1) being at engorged means the effect is essentially irrelevant, and 2) being at starving means you could die almost immediately 10:45:26 IMO, to the extent that the design works, it works because it more or less guarantees you'll spend most of the fight right around starving 10:45:49 ... I suppose I should put that in emal 10:45:53 to provoke further discussion 10:45:59 Email, too 10:46:47 !learn edit warding s/$/ Removed in 0.18./ 10:46:47 warding[1/1]: Confers protection from some fraction of melee and ranged attacks (depends on MR) by summoned creatures. Will not prevent them from using spells, items or abilities. Can be obtained by wielding a staff of summoning or wearing the eponymous amulet. The amulet also provides rN+. Removed in 0.18. 10:47:14 ??resist_mutation 10:47:14 resist mutation[1/3]: Comes from an amulet of resist mutation, the {hat of the Alchemist}, the {lajatang of order}, a mutation itself (3 levels), and Zin. The amulet and lajatang provide a 90% chance to prevent mutations, but mutations from {contam} have a 50% chance of bypassing rMut. If you are undead, rMut can block mutation-induced rotting with the same chances. 10:47:27 ??amulet_of_resist_mutation 10:47:27 resist mutation[1/3]: Comes from an amulet of resist mutation, the {hat of the Alchemist}, the {lajatang of order}, a mutation itself (3 levels), and Zin. The amulet and lajatang provide a 90% chance to prevent mutations, but mutations from {contam} have a 50% chance of bypassing rMut. If you are undead, rMut can block mutation-induced rotting with the same chances. 10:47:31 ??resist_mutation[2 10:47:31 resist mutation[2/3]: Unlike other sources, the rMut mutation can block both adding and removing mutations. By level: 1 is 66% adding, 0% removing. 2 is 66% adding, 50% removing. 3 is 100% for both. Zin protects you at a rate of (piety/2)%. At 200 piety this reaches 100%, but staying at 100% would require never spending piety on invocations. Zin can stop Xom/Jiyva, other rMut can't. 10:47:35 ??resist_mutation[3 10:47:35 resist mutation[3/3]: Multiple sources (item, rMut mutation, divine protection) of rMut stack multiplicatively. Wearing multiple items with rMut does not stack! 10:48:23 !learn edit resist_mutation s/amulet of resist mutation/amulet of resist mutation (removed in 0.18)/ 10:48:23 Use: !learn edit resist_mutation[NUM] s/// 10:48:29 !learn edit resist_mutation[1] s/amulet of resist mutation/amulet of resist mutation (removed in 0.18)/ 10:48:30 resist mutation[1/3]: Comes from an amulet of resist mutation (removed in 0.18), the {hat of the Alchemist}, the {lajatang of order}, a mutation itself (3 levels), and Zin. The amulet and lajatang provide a 90% chance to prevent mutations, but mutations from {contam} have a 50% chance of bypassing rMut. If you are undead, rMut can block mutation-induced rotting with the same chances. 10:48:42 ??amulet_of_clarity 10:48:42 clarity[1/1]: Prevents confusion, unintentional berserking, and mesmerization (but not fear). Gods can and will ignore it and confuse you anyway. Xom confusion will respect clarity so long as Xom is not feeling nasty. 10:50:54 !learn edit clarity s/$/ The amulet of clarity was removed in 0.18./ 10:50:55 clarity[1/1]: Prevents confusion, unintentional berserking, and mesmerization (but not fear). Gods can and will ignore it and confuse you anyway. Xom confusion will respect clarity so long as Xom is not feeling nasty. The amulet of clarity was removed in 0.18. 10:51:01 ??amulet_of_stasis 10:51:01 stasis[1/1]: Blocks teleport, blink, haste, slow, berserk, finesse, and paralysis. The amulet will give you some (possibly yellow) {contam} and cancel the status if you put it on while hasted or slowed, or while waiting for teleport. Formicids have this as an intrinsic. 10:51:58 !learn edit stasis s/amulet/amulet (removed in 0.18)/ 10:51:59 stasis[1/1]: Blocks teleport, blink, haste, slow, berserk, finesse, and paralysis. The amulet (removed in 0.18) will give you some (possibly yellow) {contam} and cancel the status if you put it on while hasted or slowed, or while waiting for teleport. Formicids have this as an intrinsic. 10:52:14 I think that covers it 10:52:37 oh I guess we could mention what replaced them, but that's maybe less important 10:52:46 since there's not really a correspondance between the effects 10:55:04 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:55:41 ?/ozo 10:55:42 Matching terms (6): ozo's, ozo's_armour, ozocubu, ozocubu's_armour, ozocubu's_refrigeration, ozocubus_refrigeration; entries (25): book_of_frost[1] | book_of_ice[1] | cold_blooded[3] | danei[4] | funny_messages[15] | heavy_armour[1] | insubstantial[1] | list_of_spells_by_school[2] | list_of_spells_by_school[8] | list_of_spells_by_spell_level[3] | list_of_spells_by_spell_level[6] | named_wizards[1]... 10:55:52 Grunt: I was going to say put the skin of zhor in ozocubu's wizlab, but it's pretty disappointing loot 10:56:02 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 10:56:18 I think a maxwell's lab would be fun to do, if I can figure out a full theme 10:56:35 it actually feels very "Pakellas" 10:57:15 I guess that's more just theme and indirect, given that what Pak actually does has little to do with heavy armour 10:58:00 ??etheric cage 10:58:01 maxwell's etheric cage[1/1]: +0 rElec helmet that greatly increases MP regen but also has a 1 in 100 chance of giving you a lump of contam every turn. You get 1 MP every turn on a coinflip. Miscasts, haste and invisibility combined with this artifact are very likely to mutate you. 10:58:08 sounds not very Pak... 10:59:39 no 10:59:44 ??maxwell's_patent_armour 10:59:44 maxwell's patent armour[1/1]: +15 plate armour with -Cast, -Tele, MR+, rCorr, and rElec. 10:59:58 that predates the cage; it was what I was referring to anyhow 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:12 but it's pak in terms of "crazy invention" 11:00:15 both are really 11:00:53 -!- tollymain has joined ##crawl-dev 11:01:01 but yeah gameplay-wise neither are terribly connected to pak, it's just a thematic connection (Pak is a mad scientist, inventer god) 11:01:05 *inventor 11:02:38 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:11:03 Pak doesn't directly give heavy armour, but heavy armour is good w/ Pak 11:12:02 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:14:40 yeah 11:15:13 -!- radinms has quit [] 11:15:25 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:15:26 a wizlab wouldn't be god-themed, although I suppose having an altar to pak isn't a violation of anything wizlab-wise 11:16:17 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 11:16:39 yeah 11:16:55 We had a fedhas altar wizlab 11:17:38 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:20:36 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:25:24 .cobbed 11:25:25 92. Herrn the Slayer (L27 NaFE of Cheibriados), mangled by a death cob on Zot:2 (kennysheep_blocky_room) on 2015-12-19 16:08:15, with 610517 points after 71584 turns and 5:49:32. 11:25:33 .cobbed -2 11:25:34 91/92. hypermopl the Sensei (L24 DsAM of Makhleb), mangled by a death cob on Zot:1 on 2015-12-18 14:52:55, with 546157 points after 63377 turns and 5:27:28. 11:26:50 oh, interesting 11:27:03 .gfgk cikiller~~illusory 11:27:04 No games for * (kmap~~gammafunk|wizlab_lehudib br!=D|lair kmap!~~entry|enter|runelock cikiller~~illusory). 11:27:13 .gfgk cikiller~~illusionary 11:27:14 1. Artefact the Intangible (L24 KoBe of Trog), blasted by a water nymph (illusionary) (the raging water) on Depths:3 (gammafunk_forest_water_palace) on 2014-05-04 03:43:58, with 412630 points after 67334 turns and 6:29:57. 11:28:06 hrm, I was going to say maybe the rakshasa should get credit, but I guess that actually doesn't make sense 11:28:23 oh that must have been...wait 11:28:33 what in forest made an illusion of a water nymph? 11:28:45 .gfgk cikiller~~illusionary -log 11:28:46 1. Artefact, XL24 KoBe, T:67334: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Artefact/morgue-Artefact-20140504-034358.txt 11:29:05 ah, it was indeed a rakshasa 11:29:32 oh right, this is the version that was reworked for depths by hangedman, before I redid the vault 11:43:02 !tell PleasingFungus There has been a big Beogh meme on tavern recently, is this your doing? 11:43:02 gammafunk: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 11:48:47 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:03:46 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:04:15 -!- yottam has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:04:27 gammafunk: Beogh meme? 12:04:42 People posting Beogh ideas and suggestions 12:04:50 just seemed to happen all together 12:04:56 has nothing to do with PF, I think 12:05:03 oh I know, I'm just teasing him 12:05:07 :) 12:05:16 because he's the big "ally-god reform" guy 12:05:21 I was involved in a thread started by Tiktacy, which was ... bizarre, from my pov. 12:05:23 he's working on a new ally god, did you see dpeg? 12:05:32 no, he is hiding it from me!!! 12:05:38 hrm, what's it called 12:05:43 -!- CcS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:06:02 he cannot remove Beogh, though, because then 10000 Koreans will practise their tae kwon do on him 12:06:59 "helpal"? 12:07:10 dpeg: found it: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:god:propose:ally_god 12:07:16 yes, helpal 12:07:17 ??helpal 12:07:18 helpal[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:god:propose:ally_god 12:07:28 he's still sketching it out I think 12:07:35 a single ally, probably demonic in nature 12:07:43 instead of multiple allies at once, just a single dude 12:08:17 I joked he was just implementing foocubi in crawl, he claimed he's never even run the nethack executable, let alone played it! 12:08:20 which is a lie 12:11:40 fr foocubi 12:11:45 is PF looking for a spouse??? 12:11:50 * ontoclasm flickers and vanishes! 12:12:08 single ally sounds cool, though 12:13:33 -!- gong has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:13:49 I think it was inspired a bit by the Mercenary card 12:25:31 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:28 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 12:27:44 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:28:18 -!- ArentBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 12:29:30 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:30:06 -!- johlstei_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:30:14 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:30:19 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:30:43 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest36795 12:31:15 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:32:24 -!- FireSight has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:32:57 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 12:33:28 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:34:05 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:34:05 -!- inire has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:34:05 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:34:06 -!- johlstei has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:34:10 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:38:02 -!- Guest36795 is now known as debo 12:38:26 -!- Kolbur has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:38:29 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:38:34 gammafunk: I have never told a lie. 12:38:34 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 12:39:03 -!- MakMorn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:39:12 -!- Dope has quit [Client Quit] 12:41:17 PleasingFungus: oh yeah? and that reward you promised for finding that one special case thing 12:41:24 wish I could remember what it was 12:41:41 that guy was so excited when he found it, was like "now I get PleasingFungus' reward!" 12:41:52 but I just knew in my heart the reward was a lie... 12:42:00 I still feel bad about that. 12:42:07 It haunts me. 12:42:07 what was the thing again? 12:42:10 Like the tell-tale heart. 12:42:18 Lava worm corpse tile. 12:42:21 yes 12:42:42 which monster you could do something weird with 12:47:11 well, it was more that getting a corpse at all is a minor accomplishment. 12:47:18 for a monster that lives in lava. 12:48:24 -!- cang has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:50:33 yeah that's right 12:51:01 shows perfectly why crawl needs cheevos 12:51:16 we could have Bugged Cheevos even 12:51:25 get it before it's fixed in trunk! 12:52:45 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:57:00 -!- Kolbur1 is now known as Kolbur 12:58:40 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.18-a0-845-gc59c8fa: Show wand max charges in the inventory (coledot) 10(38 seconds ago, 2 files, 4+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c59c8fab1814 12:58:54 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:07:59 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:09:33 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 13:14:10 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:17:34 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 13:23:26 -!- JoeltCo has quit [Client Quit] 13:23:53 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:08 !lg * cikiller=mnoleg 13:27:09 79. Dreemurr the Archmage (L27 DEWz of Vehumet), mangled by Mnoleg (kmap: evilmike_mnoleg_eyes) in Pandemonium on 2015-11-14 08:12:58, with 1289948 points after 150353 turns and 13:56:52. 13:27:16 :( 13:27:21 !lg * current trunk pan 13:27:24 Grunt: your gloorx changes are doing work though 13:27:24 80. solra the Conqueror (L27 MiFi of Zin), blasted by a hellion (burst of hellfire) (kmap: evilmike_mini_pan_diamond) in Pandemonium on 2015-12-19 12:25:54, with 1010563 points after 84938 turns and 8:57:35. 13:27:28 !lg * current trunk pan -2 13:27:31 79/80. rangest the Conqueror (L27 GrFi of Ashenzari), blasted by a smoke demon (divine providence) (kmap: evilmike_mini_pan_layers) in Pandemonium on 2015-12-19 10:47:07, with 746510 points after 71138 turns and 3:17:26. 13:27:31 !lg * cikiller=gloorx_vloq 13:27:33 104. AnCiEnTIStOnEIBeAsT the Merfolkian Porcupine (L27 MfBe of The Shining One), slain by Gloorx Vloq in Pandemonium (gloorx_vloq_st) on 2015-12-18 10:55:44, with 864698 points after 69889 turns and 4:27:58. 13:27:36 !lg * cikiller=gloorx_vloq -2 13:27:36 ! 13:27:37 103/104. Proton the Hoplite (L27 FoFi of Ru), succumbed to Gloorx Vloq's dark miasma in Pandemonium (gloorx_vloq_grunt_torture_chamber) on 2015-12-07 16:50:23, with 760283 points after 81599 turns and 4:36:54. 13:27:39 etc 13:27:49 !lg * current trunk pan -3 13:27:52 78/80. abtest the Octopoid Barricade (L27 OpFE of Vehumet), blasted by a Brimstone Fiend (blast of hellfire) (kmap: evilmike_mini_pan_doors_b) in Pandemonium on 2015-12-19 03:36:39, with 1096532 points after 118635 turns and 15:48:29. 13:27:57 !lg * current trunk pan map~~mnoleg 13:27:58 1. bonger the Skullcrusher (L27 DsGl of Okawaru), mangled by a cacodemon in Pandemonium (evilmike_mnoleg_eyes) on 2015-12-18 23:27:30, with 869600 points after 89778 turns and 9:30:54. 13:28:03 ! 13:28:10 rip bonger 13:28:16 !lg * current trunk pan map~~mnoleg -tv 13:28:17 1. bonger, XL27 DsGl, T:89778 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 13:28:25 haha brainless 13:28:30 brainless.... 13:28:38 Mnoleg calls upon the powers of chaos! 13:28:55 which eye does stat drain? 13:29:00 oh was it neqos 13:29:00 ... none of them 13:29:03 probably neqs 13:29:26 he really got a ton of int drain though 13:29:29 wonder how so much 13:29:39 !lg * current trunk pan map~~mnoleg -tv:<10:x3 13:29:40 1. bonger, XL27 DsGl, T:89778 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 13:29:46 not terribly high int, but that seems extreme 13:29:48 let's find out 13:29:52 oh look who it is 13:30:14 I'm not entirely convinced firestarter is a good weapon for extended 13:30:19 heh 13:30:26 maybe if you were fire-immune 13:30:28 <.< 13:30:40 well the thing is it makes a lot of noise 13:30:52 Firestarter with Qaz and shield of gong as formicid 13:30:52 GONNNNG! 13:31:02 haha 13:31:48 we're down to 3 13:31:52 neq mutation 13:31:56 this buttonmashery is kind of terrifying 13:31:57 nice 13:32:09 wow that mutatio list 13:32:12 it's like me where I'm at the point of "I don't care about this game any more" 13:32:14 and there we go 13:32:24 oh, shining eyes? 13:32:31 when did those happen in that vault! 13:32:36 uh 13:32:39 you do know what the map name is 13:32:39 right 13:32:39 ? 13:32:41 I mean yes extended is boring as ass but at least o/shiftmove prevent you from running in circles with dudes nearby 13:32:52 Grunt you monster 13:33:00 ??? 13:33:07 I had nothing to do with evilmike's vaults <.< 13:33:08 oh not your map? 13:33:18 !lg * current trunk pan map~~mnoleg 13:33:19 sorry I was following 13:33:20 1. bonger the Skullcrusher (L27 DsGl of Okawaru), mangled by a cacodemon in Pandemonium (evilmike_mnoleg_eyes) on 2015-12-18 23:27:30, with 869600 points after 89778 turns and 9:30:54. 13:33:23 ??grunt[blame 13:33:24 grunt[2/27]: is there some occasion on which you cannot blame grunt 13:33:33 :) 13:33:55 well, I guess no shenanigens were involved really 13:33:56 is there a mnoleg floor without eyes 13:34:09 I think that's the only map that places eyes 13:34:27 well maybe I'm wrong about that, maybe they place like the other G enemies, like GooE 13:34:35 but shining eyes are probably only on that map 13:35:08 yeah I guess the other hex eyes make an appearence on all 13:35:17 oh 13:35:20 no I'm wrong 13:35:31 "giant eyeball / golden eye band / eye of devastation / " .. 13:35:34 "eye of draining / shining eye / very ugly thing band / ".. 13:35:34 in the local monsters 13:35:52 yay for random giant eyeballs 13:36:15 -!- IceBlind is now known as FireSight 13:36:33 interesting 13:36:43 you know, I'm not sure that list I just pasted is actually used for monster placement 13:36:52 maybe that affects the level outside of the vault? 13:37:03 in which case it would be the spawns not in the vault itself 13:37:09 and then any casting of shadow creatures 13:37:36 yeah I see grunt's vault and evilmike's do use eye monsters though 13:37:58 which of my vaults 13:37:59 <.< 13:38:02 * Grunt stares at gammafunk. 13:38:26 your mnoleg vault! 13:38:27 some day I will convince more people to make major panlord vaults and/or Hell endings 13:38:33 gammafunk: *which* Mnoleg vault! 13:38:43 you know which I mean, but yeah you have multiple 13:38:52 * Grunt stares at gammafunk. 13:39:07 I know, it's hard to be motivated to do such ordinary vaults tho! 13:39:32 I should do a pan encompass like holy pan 13:39:43 Maybe an alternate holy pan 13:39:45 I wish I hadn't misplaced the layout for grunt_chaotic_commons 13:39:55 fill it with neutral giant eyeballs inside hardened glass boxes 13:40:01 imagine... an *unholy* pan... 13:40:14 gammafunk: a while back I had an idea 13:40:14 to 13:40:21 split the pieces of holy_pan into subvaults 13:40:24 well 13:40:27 oh wow, did the ely speech in holy pan get removed? 13:40:29 vaults, not subvaults 13:40:37 the what now? 13:40:53 when she would say something like "I don't think anyone should kill anything...ever!" 13:40:56 if you killed an apis 13:41:01 that was a thing? 13:41:04 that... wasn't specific to holypan... 13:41:04 yeah 13:41:08 ah 13:41:11 interesting 13:41:19 I vaguely recall ely wrath effects being a thing in ages past 13:41:24 right 13:41:25 on apis, yes 13:41:28 but not messages 13:41:33 just like TSO wrath effects 13:41:40 removed because certain people hate fun 13:41:44 dang 13:41:45 devs? 13:41:49 ya 13:41:51 * PleasingFungus removes himself! 13:41:52 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 43.0.1/20151216175450]] 13:41:53 the friggin devs 13:41:53 ??devteam[ruined 13:41:54 devteam[2/27]: minqmay: who ruined it elliott: a dev 13:43:48 Grunt: I'm not sure that the subvault idea is great since there's not really a good layout to base it on 13:44:00 I mean the current holy pan is what it is 13:44:16 I'd probably try for a better layout, although I don't actually know what 13:44:19 gammafunk: one would need to pair it with a good layout for that to wo rk, yes 13:44:38 oh yeah, if you have an idea for a good layout as a basis, then certainly 13:44:42 hrm, not even sure what we would use as inspiration 13:44:56 big churches? 13:45:14 there are a lot of "big fortress with ignorable surrounding area" layouts already 13:45:40 hmmm 13:46:13 god, part of me wants to do something dumb and go nethack 13:46:19 thinking of the planes of air and water 13:46:20 don't do it! 13:46:24 I know, I know 13:47:31 ah 13:47:37 here's the removal of the apis wrath thing 13:47:39 %git 8af576b 13:47:39 07reaverb02 * 0.15-a0-1473-g8af576b: Remove Holy monsters' death curses 10(1 year, 6 months ago, 3 files, 3+ 87-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8af576bb8446 13:48:18 oh 13:48:24 didn't remove the god wrath speech, did it 13:48:41 Elyvilon whispers: "No one should ever harm others. Ever!" 13:48:44 that was it 13:49:16 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:49:26 !source dat/database/godspeak.txt:559 13:49:26 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/database/godspeak.txt#l559 13:50:13 that's not a bad idea though in general, Grunt. We'd have to gut current holy pan though 13:50:25 I guess we'd want to preserve maybe those temples at least as the subvaults 13:50:43 well if not directly, to have versions of them since they're pretty iconic 13:51:22 now I need to spam 'p' under xom until he slaps me with kilgore trout 13:51:23 something kind of adventury where the surrounding portions are very relevant would be neat 13:51:39 hah 13:51:48 @_trout_species_@, that's great 13:53:25 yeah, thinking on it further, nothing prevents you from having a subvaulted level and having a totally different encompass as an alternate 13:53:38 it's not like Tomb with a complicated structure that needs preserving 13:53:52 to be clear by "subvaulted" I'm thinking of something like what tar_grunt does 13:54:06 !vault tar_grunt 13:54:06 though given how big the pieces are an actual subvault thing might be needed 13:54:07 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/tar.des#l973 13:54:41 yeah, not sure how well this would work...I guess it could ok 13:54:50 that map is pretty angular and structural 13:55:04 things like an enchanted side forest might be harder to work if they're randomly placed like that 13:55:06 Xom accidental homicide 13:55:17 maybe that's not really the case 13:57:06 well in any case, anything from some new maps to full on subvaulting would help with elliptic's plan for Pan reform 13:57:16 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 13:57:19 make the final pan level have some nice variation to it 13:58:30 what I imagine might be fun would be making the path through the level progress from subvault to subvault so that you basically had to take this path or use teleport 13:58:55 the path here being a wider thing that allows for some combat from the monsters guarding the "church" entrances 13:59:14 maybe that'd be fun as a specific variant rather than a thing for all of them though 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01:21 at start, go through an enchanted foresty thing with some ely altar and encounters, then from that take some pass to the church of zin, another path to the temple of TSO 14:02:00 -!- Kolbur has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:04:39 -!- Watball has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 14:09:52 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:27:46 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:32:35 -!- mumbologist has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:33:17 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest41143 14:33:49 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:34:50 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:37:04 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 14:39:35 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:40:05 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 14:43:52 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: Farewell.] 14:46:37 -!- Guest41143 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:48:10 -!- Beast_ is now known as Beast 14:51:53 -!- shuangxi has quit [Client Quit] 14:54:07 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:18:07 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 15:19:39 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest20465 15:22:02 -!- Guest20465 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:31:46 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 15:33:13 -!- cang has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:34:55 -!- roadmap has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:34:58 -!- cang_ is now known as cang 15:37:14 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:39:38 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest2647 15:43:42 -!- Guest2647 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:44:25 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest18077 15:45:52 -!- agentgt has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:46:50 -!- Kolbur has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:51:40 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:54:47 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:56:13 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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Portal vaults include labyrinths, bazaars, treasure troves, ziggurats, sewers, ossuaries, baileys, ice caves, volcanoes, and wizlabs. Each vault type has its own entry in the learndb; see it for details. 18:00:00 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:37 you know an interesting sprint would be 18:00:49 going through all the portal vaults except zig 18:01:13 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01:16 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-a0-845-gc59c8fa (34) 18:01:27 ??linesprint 18:01:27 linesprint[1/2]: ||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 18:01:41 sure but better 18:01:56 you would get the full portal vault, just with 27x experience or whatever it is 18:01:59 -!- Weretaco has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:02:01 -!- serq has quit [Quit: suddenly gone...] 18:02:32 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 18:02:47 see, walker came here just to register his support 18:02:50 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:03:01 sure 18:04:23 I second this notion 18:04:52 if it's on the roadmap it's officially planned 18:05:05 * roadmap points vaguely to self 18:05:05 * Sequell also points vaguely to self 18:05:06 see! 18:06:11 roadmap seems like an OK guy 18:07:01 I hope this make install finishes before the plane boards 18:07:09 I just want to crawl ten miles high 18:08:54 the +0 Mile High Club 18:09:35 -!- Guest63021 is now known as debo 18:10:27 * geekosaur wants to say "there are drugs for that... in either sense" 18:11:33 hm, I did TILES=y but I didn't get tiles? 18:13:07 you get a program named "crawl" regardless 18:13:36 is there something I need to do in addition to ./crawl 18:13:39 it doesn't build a Mac app scaffold; if you want that, "make mac-app-tiles" 18:14:03 althogh IIRC just ./crawl should start the GUI one if built with tiles. (this may well depend on OS X version) 18:14:25 uh you also need all the other stuff from the earlier "make" line 18:14:47 otherwise it thinks you want to rebuild without all those options... the Makefile is a bit stupid 18:15:16 -!- Suga_H has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:17:56 -!- roadmap has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:22:15 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 18:22:35 -!- gestaltig has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:22:47 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 18:29:07 dpeg: so will you be placing an altar to PF's god in oubliettes? 18:29:08 :) 18:34:04 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 18:37:46 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:39:05 Grunt: yes, I have ideas for altars 18:40:07 interesting reply by bcadren on death cobs 18:40:45 -!- Rast has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:41:14 gammafunk: you on SA? 18:43:51 I stand by my argument on death cobs. 18:44:16 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:46:30 -!- Suga_H has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:47:02 -!- bleak has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:48:27 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:50:29 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 18:51:01 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:53:06 -!- sie is now known as Guest56774 18:53:11 Grunt is unmoved, as grunts usually are :) 18:58:01 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:27 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 19:03:19 -!- Guest56774 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:04:56 03Grunt02 07* 0.18-a0-846-g91b95b1: Warn the player if they are tornadoed above deep water / lava. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 18+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/91b95b148a24 19:05:15 maybe I should inflict those updated wizlabs on players and balance based on what I see from that 19:13:34 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 19:13:46 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:14:09 !send Grunt Inflict Critical Wounds 19:14:09 Sending Inflict Critical Wounds to Grunt. 19:14:10 -!- mekhami has quit [Disconnected by services] 19:14:13 re death cobs, i'd agree that percentage-based hunger isn't great on them 19:14:17 !send harm wheals 19:14:18 Sending wheals to harm. 19:14:31 !send Grunt "harm 19:14:32 Sending "harm to Grunt. 19:14:38 that was sort of designed specifically for hungry ghosts and the fact that they're speed 10 and do basically no damage (not that it necessary works well on them either) 19:14:41 !send wheals "pain 19:14:42 Sending "pain to wheals. 19:14:52 here's what bothers me: 19:15:12 also, agree with Grunt that something you can interact with more would be a good idea 19:15:12 that "damage" formula is presumably there on the assumption that not every attack will connect 19:15:27 rather, that not every attack will do damage and therefore trigger 19:15:56 so having it trigger on every successful hit without examining the "damage" it's dealing isn't a good idea 19:16:47 not sure I worded that particularly well but you get the idea 19:16:51 yeah 19:17:03 i do think af_slow would be perfectly fine to retain the existing behaviour of having to stop fighting and eat, and being slowed against a speed 25 monster in zot is probably at least a bit scary. or like, af_silence??? which would stop you using a bunch of the things that starving stops you from using, not sure how that would fit thematically on them, that's probably a bad idea 19:17:36 i definitely dislike introducing temporary hunger levels as a thing 19:17:39 AF_SILENCE might be useful somewhere, but this isn't the right monster for it 19:17:56 something to keep in mind for future (re)designs 19:19:56 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:22:26 -!- yottam has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:22:30 rereredesigns 19:22:44 hm 19:22:59 I wonder what currently extant enemies have currently gone through the most design iterations 19:23:06 gammafunk: any thoughts on those wizlab designs? 19:23:20 oh haven't looked in detail 19:23:27 if you feel like it, please do :) 19:23:55 there are a few things that stick out to me at present and I want to see if some other vaulter spots them too 19:25:10 -!- njorth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:25:16 Grunt: i bet forest monsters 19:25:34 wheals: har 19:25:56 wheals: I actual said "stupid wheals" out loud in my last stream 19:26:07 after Polyphemus threw a damn catoblepas at me 19:26:08 gammafunk: no points for you 19:26:09 i will treasure the moment forever 19:26:11 the correct invocation is 19:26:16 !blame2 wheals 19:26:17 wwwhhheeeaaalllsss 19:26:18 ^ 19:26:22 gammafunk: what, no "stupid Wensley" too? 19:26:32 i think my partner in crime should get acknowledgment 19:26:41 gammafunk: the catoblepas being in that band is my fault btw 19:26:49 ah, it's a team thing 19:26:50 I just reached for the first thing to blame 19:26:53 I lived though 19:26:53 %git HEAD^{/Polyphemus.*catoblepas} 19:26:53 07wheals02 * 0.17-a0-1478-gd585fa0: Let Polyphemus throw yaks at the player. 10(6 months ago, 4 files, 14+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d585fa0e7b22 19:27:00 %git HEAD^{/Polyphemus.*catoblepas}^^{/Polyphemus.*catoblepas} 19:27:00 07Grunt02 * 0.12-a0-1794-g94a3439: Allow for guaranteeing "once-in-a-band" monsters in band generation. 10(2 years, 11 months ago, 2 files, 18+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/94a34397035c 19:27:03 ^ 19:27:09 Grunt: also that char is stil alive and got a deng Grunt shoals end 19:27:11 technically i took the idea from the snark's suggestion on the first day of the s-z.org logs 19:27:12 ! 19:27:20 need to look at those ice vault layouts 19:27:24 and a lot of people suggested it since 19:27:42 -!- mumbologist has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:27:43 and the code to do it is all PF's 19:27:45 heh 19:27:51 that's not true! 19:28:01 said code is in part based on another dev's code... 19:28:11 it's a collective effort. 19:28:14 a kind of 19:28:20 stone soup of effort, if you will 19:28:54 Grunt: yeah until some other dev removes the monster you made, the only one you ever loved... 19:29:14 gammafunk: hey, I've had several designs axed over the years 19:29:19 I am a better dev for it 19:29:35 ug, we have to get better?! 19:29:44 learn add devteam 19:29:58 (someday I'll have a coherent octopode polluter design) 19:30:52 hrm 19:31:01 !lg * recent op-- won s=char 19:31:02 367 games for * (recent op-- won): 75x OpTm, 25x OpEE, 25x OpMo, 24x OpWn, 22x OpIE, 22x OpWz, 21x OpAs, 16x OpFi, 15x OpCj, 14x OpBe, 12x OpSu, 12x OpFE, 10x OpGl, 10x OpVM, 8x OpAM, 8x OpEn, 8x OpAr, 7x OpAK, 6x OpSk, 6x OpCK, 6x OpAE, 6x OpWr, 5x OpHu, 4x OpNe 19:31:11 ha 19:31:38 .crushed 19:31:39 291. AAAAA the Impregnable (L23 HuFi of Okawaru), thrown by an octopode crusher on Depths:1 on 2015-12-17 16:50:21, with 357786 points after 54194 turns and 2:02:49. 19:31:42 I should find my old monster form code 19:31:44 aaaaaaaa 19:31:47 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 19:35:18 a c i d c r a b s 19:35:23 -!- cang has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:35:28 caustic crabs 19:35:52 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:37:23 aha 19:37:27 I have found the old commit 19:40:44 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:43:00 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:44:12 i thought kilobyte removed it from the history 19:44:19 I have a local copy of it 19:44:57 heh 19:45:15 Grunt: did you see the GDD thread about the elf bailey? 19:45:35 do I look like I read tavern <.< 19:45:52 heh 19:46:01 it sucks when Grunt makes a saner decision than i do :P 19:46:07 this patch doesn't apply even remotely cleanly any more, but I'd at least be able to use it as a basis for writing a new version of it 19:46:13 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:46:15 -!- regret-index has joined ##crawl-dev 19:46:21 * regret-index sighs hard to herself. 19:46:33 grunt, what wizlab changes do you have planned? 19:47:01 -!- serq has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:47:02 I'm not changing any of the existing wizlabs; I'm cleaning up some of the old designs to bring them back to life 19:47:30 (the "never made it out of the 0.6 planning stage" labs) 19:47:33 borg's, ozocubu's, ... 19:47:43 those are the only two at the moment 19:48:00 I presume you're not about to use miasma shooting vampire knights 19:48:24 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 19:48:27 do I look like the sort of vaulter who will use gratuitous monster redefinitions these days 19:48:46 there was also alistair 19:49:02 wheals: those are the only two that I am working on at the moment :) 19:49:06 alistair's didn't get past the make a layout stage, anyway 19:49:28 yep 19:50:01 someone mentioned Zhor earlier, that could be occasionally in Ozo's 19:50:20 well, without gratuitous monster redefinition, I'm curious as to how you'd get over the hump of ozo's being an ice cave++ 19:54:02 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 19:55:17 (and a shrike / buffed white very ugly thing based set would have better worth as an alternative to lair branch demon ice caves, personally.) 19:57:23 imo: pan lord simulacra 19:59:15 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 19:59:36 -!- mekhami has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:59:38 right, a randomized monster losing everything that makes it unique by putting it onto a derived base, makes sense 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:13 -!- mekhami_ is now known as mekhami 20:01:51 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:02:40 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 20:02:53 santa claus 20:03:14 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:04:23 I mentioned Zhor in ozo's wizlab, but it's not going to be terribly exciting loot 20:04:57 not really, no 20:04:58 ??animal_skin 20:04:58 animal skin[1/1]: This item is mechanically identical to a {robe}. 20:06:43 -!- Blazinghand_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:07:15 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:07:39 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:08:16 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:09:11 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:11:08 I see I have once more made grunt clam up on a basic critique question 20:11:10 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:11:11 disappointing 20:11:20 -!- regret-index has left ##crawl-dev 20:11:26 sorry for eating dinner in the middle of an ever-so-important discussion 20:11:39 really Grunt, it's like you're not thinking of *our* needs 20:12:27 -!- regret-index has joined ##crawl-dev 20:13:30 fine, I'll dial back the background hostility 20:15:47 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 20:16:13 I was once v. happy to find Zhor early on an MfIE 20:16:37 oh nice, neil is working on new^27 nem 20:16:46 Zhor the Twin Obscenity 20:17:37 pre-lair wizlabs, the next portal vault shift 20:19:39 well I kept it on through 3 runes because it is nice to have rC+++ for sneaking through your own fclouds etc. 20:20:33 Grunt: oh, is it freezing vapour killing the shrike 20:20:35 regret-index: what was the last portal vault shift? 20:20:43 or are those immune 20:20:46 @??shard_shrike 20:20:46 shard shrike (12b) | Spd: 30 | HD: 21 | HP: 87-120 | AC/EV: 2/18 | Dam: 2112(cold:21-62) | see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(80), 02cold++, 08blind | XP: 5307 | Sp: throw icicle (3d30) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 20:20:59 @??ice_beast 20:20:59 ice beast (12Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 17-38 | AC/EV: 5/10 | Dam: 512(cold:5-14) | amphibious | Res: 06magic(20), 12cold+++, 03poison, 12drown | Vul: 04fire | XP: 130 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 20:21:06 yeah that would be a problem 20:21:12 @??ice_fiend 20:21:12 Ice Fiend (001) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 77-118 | AC/EV: 15/6 | Dam: 2509(claw)12(cold:18-53), 2509(claw)12(cold:18-53) | 05demonic, 10doors, unholy, see invisible, fly | Res: 13magic(immune), 12cold+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 2885 | Sp: b.cold (3d27) [06!sil], s.torment [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: human. 20:22:15 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:22:26 -!- serq has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:22:37 dpeg: ...good question. aside from the spike and then loss of background maintenance, maybe megazigs? 20:23:07 not that that was ever finished either 20:24:04 (well, megazigs and zigfigs and etc) 20:25:49 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 20:27:47 regret-index: nothing is ever finished 20:28:08 or, to put it more positively: if it is finished, it's dead 20:28:40 -!- andre is now known as Guest94733 20:28:43 -!- Guest94733 has quit [Client Quit] 20:28:46 that was precisely the kind of notion that killed me 20:29:05 http://www.anvari.org/fortune/Quotations_-_Random/2_quote-1-there-is-this-special-biologist-word-we-use-for-stable.html 20:30:16 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: No route to host] 20:30:42 regret-index: well, this even goes for my scientific articles, and my standards on these are pretty high. You declare something to be good enough, and leave it at that. There is always room for improvement. 20:30:45 -!- MgDark_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:31:19 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:32:50 true enough 20:37:09 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 20:40:09 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:40:19 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 20:47:55 -!- Suga_H has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:48:48 -!- mekhami has quit [Disconnected by services] 20:48:50 -!- lvanderpool is now known as mekhami 20:49:57 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:49:57 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:51:15 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 20:51:24 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:51:53 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:52:04 -!- regret-index has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:53:10 Grunt: in Borg's, the single-tile passages and the renaming of ordinary features I don't like 20:53:25 both of those caught my attention as well 20:53:49 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:53:53 to be more specific on the former, I don't really like how the corner chambers are attached to the rest of the level 20:54:02 long single tile corridors 20:55:47 on the latter point, I agree that it's also not the best idea but I decided to preserve those for the moment 20:56:17 also: it's a trait common to several other wizlabs (which isn't a great reason on its own), sort of to help differentiate them theme-wise 20:56:29 !send Grunt fleshy orifices 20:56:30 Sending fleshy orifices to Grunt. 20:56:42 !send PleasingFungus thin membranes 20:56:43 Sending thin membranes to PleasingFungus. 20:56:46 !send PleasingFungus sinewy walls 20:56:47 Sending sinewy walls to PleasingFungus. 20:56:50 !send PleasingFungus pulsating floors 20:56:51 Sending pulsating floors to PleasingFungus. 20:56:55 * PleasingFungus pulsates. 20:57:01 PulsatingFungus 20:57:20 oh no, fungus jellies 20:57:57 PleasingFungus degenerates into a PulsatingFungus! 20:58:04 -!- PleasingFungus is now known as PulsatingFungus 20:58:08 ! 20:58:12 :) 20:58:25 gammafunk: are you 20:58:26 jelly 20:58:29 !glasses 20:58:30 ( •_•)    ( •_•)>⌐■-■    (⌐■_■) 20:58:30 ! 20:58:32 dang 20:58:45 -!- } has quit [] 20:59:14 gammafunk: by the way, seeing the original version of the lab might help 20:59:18 ??old wizlabs[2 20:59:19 old wizlabs[2/2]: %git f9ff493 20:59:30 %git f9ff493 20:59:30 07due02 * 0.7.0-a0-646-gf9ff493: Remove Borgnjor's Mortuary for 0.6. 10(6 years ago, 1 file, 0+ 112-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f9ff493d7b80 20:59:37 ([1] is the commit that removed the old Ozo's) 20:59:48 looks like that wizlab got 20:59:50 buried 20:59:52 ...enh. 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:00:07 Ozo's got stuffed into the fridge 21:00:08 >.> 21:00:39 so you're saying you're working with a zombie and a simulacrum now? 21:00:43 ! 21:00:48 joke redeemed 21:00:49 haha 21:00:58 well played, geekosaur. 21:07:40 that's cold. 21:07:50 * Grunt brushes some snowflakes from his robe. 21:10:54 -!- beogh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:20:06 -!- mekhami has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:30:22 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:31:27 * jefus walks in, still waking up. He slips on some snowflakes and annoyed, turns on all the heaters to high. 21:32:36 * Grunt burns! 21:32:41 OH GOD 21:32:59 * Grunt explodes! 21:33:12 * jefus turns into coffee mist. 21:33:39 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:35:39 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 21:36:05 -!- cang has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:37:01 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:37:17 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 21:38:58 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:41:51 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:41:56 -!- owl has joined ##crawl-dev 21:42:06 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:44:56 -!- mineral has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:46:36 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:47:26 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:50:35 -!- fazisi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:04:29 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 22:09:07 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:11:52 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:12:17 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 22:16:28 wait, what's the newnewnewnewnewnemelex supposed to do 22:16:33 did I get the news right 22:16:49 at some point it's just newmelex 22:20:26 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:21:15 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:22:22 newnewnewnewnewnewnewnewnewnewnewnewnewnewnewnewnewnewnewmelex 22:25:04 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 22:32:44 rest assured, since neil is on the case he will use the powers of COMPUTER SCIENCE to fix nemelex 22:34:01 is nemelex currently more broken than usual or what 22:34:53 not afaik. 22:34:58 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:35:01 but amethyst was talking about another revision. 22:35:22 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest25839 22:35:54 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:36:42 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:37:58 !send PulsatingFungus revisions 22:37:58 Sending revisions to PulsatingFungus. 22:38:20 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:40:24 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:40:26 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:43:36 nemelex will never be finished 22:43:44 +1 for the new proposed nemelex re-re-revision 22:43:54 when will nemelex be: "good enough" 22:44:05 one could say the same about crawl. 22:44:17 when will crawl be: "good enough" 22:44:20 <.< 22:44:50 obviously this minor patch will totally fix nemelex: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/201 22:47:18 -!- serq has quit [Quit: suddenly gone...] 22:49:07 Grunt: when we add moon shrikes 22:49:20 and lunar vampire lords 22:49:32 we need to bring back cheese first 22:49:45 the moon just isn't the same without it 22:49:55 the walls look like blue cheese 22:49:59 could make them edible 22:50:01 Dairy Shrikes? 22:50:11 does the moon have pizza 22:50:16 it could yeah 22:50:23 through the POWER of | and * 22:50:23 !send grunt_pizzeria everyone 22:50:24 Sending everyone to grunt_pizzeria. 22:50:25 since 22:50:28 that's where we put the cheese 22:50:45 well to be clear you don't put cheddar cheese on piza 22:50:47 *pizza 22:51:04 I think our pizzas might have a small chance of that 22:51:07 I'd have to look 22:51:16 no. bloax made pizzas that way 22:51:17 !send PulsatingFungus the fabled Pandemonium Pizza 22:51:18 and we banned him 22:51:18 Sending the fabled Pandemonium Pizza to PulsatingFungus. 22:51:27 well, good riddance, then! 22:51:50 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:51:59 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 22:52:59 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:55:50 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:58:23 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:59:56 -!- entirely_liquid has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:05:14 if you're invis, orc priests can end up using pain on their pack-buddies 23:05:16 -!- mekhami has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:06:02 The orc priest is severely wounded._The orc priest hits you but does no damage. The orc priest calls down the wrath of Beogh upon the orc priest. The orc priest convulses in agony! The orc priest dies! 23:06:23 @??orc priest 23:06:23 orc priest (03o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 3 | HP: 10-21 | AC/EV: 2/9 | Dam: 6 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest, evil | Res: 06magic(20) | Vul: 08holy | XP: 41 | Sp: pain (d14) [11!AM], cantrip [11!AM], smiting (7-17) [11!AM], heal other (2d1) [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 23:06:43 ZChris13: that doesn't sound like a bug to me. 23:06:48 -!- bleak has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:07:01 They guessed where you were and guessed wrong. 23:07:08 wrath of beogh is smiting, isn't it? 23:07:18 so he guessed I was in his friend's square 23:07:31 Convulses in agony is Pain. As you said. 23:07:34 Pain is a beam. 23:07:48 hmmm 23:07:55 it's a beam that can't miss, right 23:07:57 I *think* they can end up smiting their pals, and I guess you could make them slightly smarter so they don't guess that you're in their friends' square 23:08:06 but I don't know that it's necessary 23:08:42 beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeam 23:08:46 agreed. 23:08:48 -!- PulsatingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 43.0.1/20151216175450]] 23:11:11 -!- Dixlet has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:15:03 !blame beam 23:15:03 I pronounce beam... Guilty! 23:15:20 %%git 23:15:55 !gitgrepmfc 1 moon 23:15:56 %%git HEAD^{/moon} 23:16:47 !cmd !gitgrepmfc 23:16:47 Command: !gitgrepmfc => .echo $(ignore $1)$(let (n $1 s $*) (concat "%%git HEAD^{/" $s "}" (repeat (concat "^^{/" $s "}") (- (int $n) 1)))) 23:17:09 !cmd !gitgrepmfc .echo $(ignore $1)$(let (n $1 s $*) (concat "%git HEAD^{/" $s "}" (repeat (concat "^^{/" $s "}") (- (int $n) 1)))) 23:17:10 Redefined command: !gitgrepmfc => .echo $(ignore $1)$(let (n $1 s $*) (concat "%git HEAD^{/" $s "}" (repeat (concat "^^{/" $s "}") (- (int $n) 1)))) 23:17:12 !gitgrepmfc 1 moon 23:17:13 %git HEAD^{/moon} 23:17:13 07gammafunk02 * 0.17-a0-1421-g95311d7: Give the moon troll corrosive bolt instead of singularity 10(6 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/95311d7773c8 23:17:34 :( 23:17:46 gammafunk: for a moon troll in Lehudib's moon base, why doesn't it have 23:17:47 LCS 23:17:57 Grunt: statue has that 23:18:07 shh 23:18:30 it could have that as well, but it's good to have a full-range spell 23:18:40 I'm open to trying other spells if they're withing theme (and not tornado) 23:18:57 tornado................. 23:19:03 (RIP legendary unseen terrors of the wind) 23:19:15 (is that line still in the MTLA description) 23:19:20 yeah 23:19:47 good 23:19:49 (I wrote that line) 23:20:11 was just about to say how we could R E M O V E it if the moon troll felt finalized enough 23:20:14 or rewrite 23:20:19 :( 23:20:21 but it's nbd 23:21:09 do we give monsters two ranged spells that often 23:21:11 er 23:21:17 two beam spells, I should say 23:21:19 I feel we don't 23:21:23 LCS isn't a beeeeeeeeeeeeam 23:21:30 the best ex-example I can think of are DECJs 23:21:32 true 23:21:45 hm 23:21:47 @??ogre mage 23:21:47 ogre mage (06O) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 42-70 | AC/EV: 3/7 | Dam: 12 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, unholy, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(80) | XP: 918 | Sp: haste other, crystal spear (3d28), blink, b.fire (3d18), b.cold (3d18), minor healing (2d5) [04emergency] / haste other, mystic blast (3d15), invisibility, confuse, slow / haste other, paralyse, haste, b.lightning (3d17), confus.. 23:21:52 oh 23:21:53 @??deep e lf annihilator 23:21:53 unknown monster: "deep e lf annihilator" 23:21:54 heh 23:21:55 @??deep elf annihilator 23:21:56 deep elf annihilator (12e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 57-78 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 12 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(120) | XP: 1256 | Sp: b.lightning (3d20), crystal spear (3d34), blink, iron shot (3d28), poison arrow (3d22) | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 23:22:07 * Grunt ponders 23:22:07 yeah maybe that'd be a fun addition then 23:22:51 wow iron shot AND lcs, even 23:22:53 I know there's at least one more 23:23:02 (liches don't count) 23:23:03 drac annihilators? 23:23:12 @??draconian_annihilator 23:23:12 mottled draconian annihilator (12q) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 72-89 | AC/EV: 9/10 | Dam: 15 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(40), 05fire, 04napalm | XP: 1492 | Sp: b.lightning (3d21), crystal spear (3d35), blink, iron shot (3d29), poison arrow (3d23) | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 23:23:14 drac annihilators have exactly the same spell set as deep elf annihilators 23:23:28 just with more hp and less sinv 23:23:29 @??tengu_reaver 23:23:29 tengu reaver (13Q) | Spd: 10 (move: 90%) | HD: 17 | HP: 67-100 | AC/EV: 8/16 | Dam: 27, 11, 11 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 2033 | Sp: b.lightning (3d22), battlesphere, freezing cloud (2d27) / b.magma (3d26), battlesphere, fireball (3d27) / b.venom (3d21), b.corrosive (3d21), battlesphere, poisonous cloud (3d11) | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 23:23:35 -!- PulsatingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:23:36 there 23:23:36 @??tengu conjurer 23:23:37 tengu conjurer (02Q) | Spd: 10 (move: 90%) | HD: 7 | HP: 25-39 | AC/EV: 2/17 | Dam: 10, 5, 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 323 | Sp: force lance (3d11), mystic blast (3d13), battlesphere, blink [04emergency] / mephitic cloud, b.venom (3d12), battlesphere, blink [04emergency] / shock (d12), b.lightning (3d14), battlesphere, blink [04emergency] /.. 23:23:40 b.venum and b.corrosive 23:23:49 *venom 23:24:00 shock kind of counts 23:24:01 heh 23:24:03 I'm pretty sure that spell set didn't originally have corrosive bolt in it 23:24:13 It did not. 23:24:16 -!- PulsatingFungus is now known as PleasingFungus 23:24:16 yeah probably not, but it's a good spell! 23:24:30 a lot of enemies seem to have it these days 23:24:45 It's too mainstream for me. 23:24:45 de sorcerers, tengu reavers, 23:24:49 hrm, desorcs, reavers 23:24:50 I was into it before it was popular. 23:24:51 ...I guess that's it other than the moon troll 23:24:53 hm 23:24:58 well liches sometimes get it? 23:25:01 liches yeah 23:25:04 I think most if not all of those were added in one pass. 23:25:04 it's not all that common 23:25:15 (I'm not really counting liches or panlords because they're Special) 23:25:15 I mean compared to the other beam/bolt spells 23:25:18 beem 23:25:20 hm 23:25:24 I want to check something now 23:25:25 namely 23:25:30 what's the relative frequency of monster spells 23:25:32 these days 23:25:43 my vote: the frequency is kenneth 23:25:44 should be able to do a one line command to figure 23:25:48 what's the frequency, gammafunk? 23:25:56 relatively infrequent 23:26:53 weighted by monster placement freq per objstat or w/e 23:26:55 ? 23:27:07 I think he means just by monster types 23:27:20 overall in spell ets 23:27:21 sets 23:27:24 yeah 23:27:27 http://sprunge.us/DBDc 23:27:35 this is "occurrences in mon-spell.h" 23:27:44 heh 23:27:55 way more invis than I'd have guessed 23:28:08 a little more slow 23:29:03 1 SPELL_FORCEFUL_INVITATION 23:29:04 the frig 23:29:09 ??forceful_invitation 23:29:09 worldbinder[1/1]: Abyssal monster that can summon monsters from most other branches. (Lair, Snake, Spider, Swamp, Shoals, Orc, Elf, Vaults, Crypt) The branch that it can summon from is random, but consistent per-worldbinder. Worth noting they're flimsy as hell, due to being made in part on-par with ynoxinuls. 23:29:10 worldbinders 23:29:13 blink has 52 results, though, so that's def the winner 23:29:18 38 != 52 23:29:28 unless you mean all versions of blink 23:29:31 blink, blink away, blink close, blink range 23:29:37 I could've missed some 23:29:43 blink others close 23:29:48 blink allies surrounding 23:29:49 enh 23:29:55 s/surrounding/encircling/ 23:29:58 blink ally range encircling other closer 23:30:01 oh yeah, that vaguely reminds me 23:30:11 I had an old TODO suggesting that worldbinders gave too much xp 23:30:21 brought up by ak nonsense 23:30:22 @??worldbinder 23:30:22 worldbinder (10x) | Spd: 14 | HD: 8 | HP: 29-51 | AC/EV: 12/4 | Dam: 8, 8 | 11non-living, 10doors, see invisible, fly, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(60), 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 516 | Sp: forceful invitation [06!sil] | Sz: small | Int: animal. 23:30:33 @??deep elf mage 23:30:33 deep elf mage (06e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 9 | HP: 32-46 | AC/EV: 1/12 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(40) | XP: 572 | Sp: b.cold (3d17), throw icicle (3d17), sum.ice beast, blink / b.draining (3d17), sum.demon, sum.vermin, blink / b.fire (3d17), sticky flame range (3d5), sum.fire elementals, blink / b.lightning (3d16), blink / b.magma (3d17), stone arrow (3d15), sum.earth elemen.. 23:30:34 they're good like early abyss stuff 23:30:46 that's like the same all around 23:30:46 seems ok to me 23:30:50 ya 23:30:56 500 xp is a lot for something with those kinds of defenses 23:31:00 v0v 23:31:10 worldbinders sometimes just suck if they can't get their summons in the right place 23:31:11 I don't think it really is? 23:31:13 @??golden eye 23:31:13 golden eye (08G) | Spd: 13 | HD: 6 | HP: 8-16 | AC/EV: 0/20 | see invisible, fly, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(60), 12drown | XP: 188 | Sp: confusion gaze [06!sil], blink [06!sil] | Sz: tiny | Int: brainless. 23:31:13 -!- wheals has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:31:33 these guys were also brought up 23:31:34 iirc 23:31:38 I mean demages don't seem to give that much xp, and have worse defenses 23:31:39 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:31:55 demages have much more consistent offense 23:32:33 I don't think that matters since these things are abyss-only 23:32:39 you only see them if you get abyssed, right? 23:32:48 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:33:01 they can be summoned by corrupters 23:33:07 context was, again: aks 23:33:16 also I think they can show up as a miscast effect 23:33:20 yes 23:33:25 but then their xp isn't a problem 23:33:27 obviously 23:34:15 hm they can't actually be summoned by corrupters 23:34:17 they're probably really dangerous to fight as an early ak 23:34:19 that must have changed 23:34:34 baring some species what are already silly 23:34:34 @??eustachio 23:34:35 Eustachio (02@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 4 | HP: 36-44 | AC/EV: 3/13 | Dam: 6 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, unholy, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 197 | Sp: sum.small mammal, sum.minor demon, blink | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 23:34:58 imho ~300 xp would be more reasonable 23:35:17 @??eustachio hd:8 23:35:18 Eustachio (02@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 8 | HP: 74-85 | AC/EV: 3/13 | Dam: 6 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, unholy, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 906 | Sp: sum.small mammal, sum.minor demon, blink | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 23:35:34 @??eustachio hd:30 23:35:34 Eustachio (02@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 30 | HP: 290-311 | AC/EV: 3/13 | Dam: 6 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, unholy, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 18971 | Sp: sum.small mammal, sum.minor demon, blink | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 23:35:40 lmao 23:35:41 !lg * cikiller=worldbinder 23:35:42 878. Alethiolet the Skirmisher (L1 DsAK of Lugonu), slain by a worldbinder on Abyss:1 on 2015-12-19 17:11:14, with 0 points after 72 turns and 0:00:54. 23:35:51 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 23:35:53 !lg * cikiller=worldbinder s=xl 23:35:53 878 games for * (cikiller=worldbinder): 691x 1, 19x 10, 18x 4, 17x 11, 15x 9, 15x 2, 14x 5, 13x 8, 12x 3, 12x 6, 9x 12, 9x 7, 7x 15, 6x 16, 5x 14, 5x 17, 4x 18, 3x 13, 2x 24, 27, 19 23:35:58 . . . 23:36:06 !lg * cikiller=worldbinder xl=1 s=class 23:36:07 691 games for * (cikiller=worldbinder xl=1): 689x Abyssal Knight, Fighter, Berserker 23:36:11 hahahahahaha 23:36:16 !lg * ak abyss:1 xl<=9 s=cikiller 23:36:18 38440 games for * (ak abyss:1 xl<=9): 4247x a small abomination, 2513x a large abomination, 2431x a thrashing horror, 2246x a wretched star, 1963x, 1776x a smoke demon, 1584x a raiju, 1577x a starcursed mass, 1312x a ynoxinul, 1122x an ancient zyme, 991x a tentacled starspawn, 918x a sixfirhy, 795x a neqoxec, 755x a white imp, 607x a worldbinder, 537x an ufetubus, 517x a chaos spawn, 513x a spatia... 23:36:29 white imps doig work 23:36:30 !lg * ak abyss xl<=9 s=cikiller 23:36:31 59760 games for * (ak abyss xl<=9): 6038x a small abomination, 3770x a large abomination, 3473x a smoke demon, 3049x, 3014x a thrashing horror, 2685x a wretched star, 2310x a ynoxinul, 2000x a white imp, 1994x a raiju, 1876x a starcursed mass, 1427x a neqoxec, 1410x a sixfirhy, 1351x an ufetubus, 1274x an ancient zyme, 1170x a tentacled starspawn, 939x an orange demon, 839x an iron imp, 791x a lem... 23:36:33 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:36:40 !lg * recent ak abyss xl<=9 s=cikiller 23:36:42 21066 games for * (recent ak abyss xl<=9): 2132x a small abomination, 1569x a thrashing horror, 1373x a wretched star, 1331x a large abomination, 1204x a raiju, 937x a smoke demon, 914x a starcursed mass, 808x, 604x a tentacled starspawn, 603x a ynoxinul, 573x an ancient zyme, 532x a sixfirhy, 423x a white imp, 412x a worldbinder, 389x a neqoxec, 347x a spatial maelstrom, 321x a chaos spawn, 243x ... 23:36:43 yeah you shouldn't fight the things, but tbf I don't know what their placement is like 23:36:46 mm, iron imps too 23:36:46 hrm 23:37:04 !lg * cikiller=worldbinder xl=1 be 23:37:04 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:37:05 1. BagelWarrior the Skirmisher (L1 DrBe of Trog), slain by a worldbinder on Abyss:1 on 2015-09-18 16:57:45, with 6 points after 237 turns and 0:01:02. 23:37:14 BagelWarrior... 23:37:17 !lg * cikiller=worldbinder xl=1 fi 23:37:18 1. LCastillo the Shield-Bearer (L1 FoFi), shot by a yaktaur (steel bolt) (summoned by a worldbinder) on Abyss:1 on 2015-03-15 04:19:04, with 0 points after 106 turns and 0:01:02. 23:37:36 much good that shield did 23:37:52 oh they're not on abyss:1? 23:37:56 !lg * cikiller=worldbinder s=lvl 23:37:57 878 games for * (cikiller=worldbinder): 756x 1, 86x 2, 27x 3, 6x 4, 10, 5, 8 23:38:00 hrm 23:38:02 weird 23:38:11 oooh 23:38:19 abyss:1 is probably special wrt monster gen 23:38:28 what 23:38:31 well something is odd about i 23:38:32 t 23:38:38 ? 23:38:39 !lg * cikiller=worldbinder s=place 23:38:39 878 games for * (cikiller=worldbinder): 748x Abyss:1, 86x Abyss:2, 26x Abyss:3, 7x D:1, 6x Abyss:4, Abyss:5, Temple, D:8, D:10, D:3 23:38:49 !lg * cikiller=worldbinder temple 23:38:50 1. Zalbag the Cudgeler (L9 HuSk of Zin), slain by a jumping spider (summoned by a worldbinder) in the Temple (minmay_temple_bridge_a_8) on 2014-04-23 06:02:37, with 2472 points after 11316 turns and 0:49:24. 23:38:55 0 generating on abyss:1 in objstat 23:39:14 objstat is a filthy liar 23:39:21 so 23:39:22 uh 23:39:28 how does objstat tell you about monsters 23:39:30 o_O 23:39:37 { 1, 8, 165, FALL, MONS_WORLDBINDER }, 23:39:42 how? 23:39:57 I've always used -script place-population to check monster populations 23:40:07 there's a big spreadsheet 23:40:11 oh, you've never looked at the output? 23:40:12 ??objstat 23:40:12 objstat[1/3]: Run with "crawl -objstat" in a build of crawl with EXTERNAL_FLAGS_L=-DDEBUG_STATISTICS in your make command (or full debug with "make debug") to generate item/monsters statistics. See crawl -help for the argument details. 23:40:13 idk where it is 23:40:17 ??objstat[2 23:40:17 objstat[2/3]: Latest statistics: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7VXhHzhWWb7S282VWhLVWRXbG8&usp=sharing , See the README for details: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D5mFqVi8ghz_nzvVmDUc3unx8VanVBWfgvZ8xCHaiJo/edit?usp=sharing 23:40:19 hm 23:40:34 maybe the last time I used it it didn't have monster stats?? 23:40:35 it always did 23:40:38 hm 23:40:41 why did I not notice >.> 23:40:50 maybe you need these: 23:40:52 !glasses 23:40:52 ( •_•)    ( •_•)>⌐■-■    (⌐■_■) 23:40:54 maybe place-population is too deeply ingrained with me 23:41:12 yeah objstat is behaving oddly wrt worldbinders on A:1, not sure why 23:41:25 looks like you aren't generating many worldbinders at all. might be a fluke? 23:41:35 hm, would be a weird fluke 23:41:35 gammafunk: what *is* generating 23:41:36 and 23:41:43 no it sees them on abyss:2-5 23:41:44 is it in line with mon-pick 23:41:59 uh, raiju are generating abyss:1 23:42:06 yo 23:42:06 you can sort the columns by place 23:42:09 it's a fluke 23:42:15 check out 0.17-old 23:42:21 that has them on abyss:1 and 3-5, but not 2 23:42:38 hm, still fewer than I'd expect 23:43:23 yeah something is odd about that 23:43:33 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:44:12 huh, thrashing horror band size scales with depth. never knew that. 23:44:13 I mean this is only when the level is first made 23:44:14 neat. 23:44:22 not counting the very frequent spawns ofc 23:44:48 abyss is just weird wrt monster generation 23:44:49 thrashing horrors spawn in bands? 23:45:03 yes. 23:45:22 but only on a:2 and deeper, and only sometimes. 23:46:17 -!- vev has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:46:22 Grunt: ...oh 23:46:26 ? 23:46:32 er s/Grung: // 23:46:34 but: oh 23:46:38 oh?? 23:46:46 All Monsters Abyss:1 1.16 23:46:51 1.16 monsters on average 23:46:57 .. . . 23:47:01 when abyss:1 is made 23:47:08 so probably most come from spawns 23:47:11 hence the weird numbers 23:47:26 range is 0-20 23:47:29 !send gammafunk weirdness 23:47:30 Sending weirdness to gammafunk. 23:47:37 !motto w e i r d 23:47:37 WEIRD! 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G A M M A F U N K!! 23:49:23 so objstat abyss numbers are basically useless 23:49:26 aaaaaaa 23:49:39 7 soldier ants come into view. 23:49:50 I need to make an option to make it wait N turns and then read 23:50:00 then it sort of could be useful? kind of 23:51:30 http://sprunge.us/HQeO the monsters that do place 23:52:21 torpor 23:52:22 new de mages are p scary 23:52:23 snail 23:52:25 ! 23:52:36 one does not simply torpor into mordor 23:52:44 until they decide to melee 23:53:02 yeah new deep elf mages are maybe too metal for their depth 23:53:14 in D, that is 23:53:17 I think they're about the right spice in D 23:53:31 except for that one vault that places 9 of them inside agreen crystal spiral 23:53:37 well I mean how early they spawn 23:53:50 in my most recent game I saw one on D:7 23:53:55 it threw a lightning bolt at me 23:53:56 yeah that's... 23:54:04 bring back early skeletal wyverns 23:54:15 and d:1 hill giants 23:54:15 I nearly died to one on like d:9 or d:10 23:54:24 or was it d:8 23:55:03 (I was going to suggest replacing blink w/blink away and setting the flag that makes them keep casting.) 23:55:08 %git HEAD^{/deep elf conjurer} 23:55:08 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-2385-gccbbdab: Targeter for monster Fulminant Prism; some related bug fixes. 10(1 year, 1 month ago, 7 files, 146+ 21-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ccbbdab81bbe 23:55:14 %git HEAD^{/deep elf.*conjurer} 23:55:14 07Grunt02 * 0.18-a0-754-geadaf5c: Merge deep elf summoners and conjurers into mages. 10(7 weeks ago, 31 files, 100+ 170-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eadaf5cd0ab4 23:55:33 !lg * vlong>=0.18-a0-754-geadaf5c d s=cikiller 23:55:41 9951 games for * (vlong>=0.18-a0-754-geadaf5c d): 2305x, 635x a gnoll, 496x an adder, 428x an orc priest, 399x a hobgoblin, 342x a player ghost, 328x a jackal, 324x a kobold, 292x an orc wizard, 277x an ogre, 210x an orc, 207x a worm, 205x an orc warrior, 193x a goblin, 191x Sigmund, 163x Natasha, 163x a centaur, 152x a giant gecko, 121x Robin, 116x Grinder, 94x a killer bee, 90x a worker ant, 89x... 23:55:58 !lg * vlong>=0.18-a0-754-geadaf5c d / cikiller=deep_elf_mage 23:56:06 61/9951 games for * (vlong>=0.18-a0-754-geadaf5c d): N=61/9951 (0.61%) 23:56:17 !lg * t d / cikiller=deep_elf_mage 23:56:24 65/76069 games for * (t d): N=65/76069 (0.09%) 23:56:35 !lg * cv=0.170a d / cikiller=deep_elf_mage 23:56:36 No games for * (cv=0.170a d). 23:56:36 er 23:56:39 !lg * cv=0.17-a d / cikiller=deep_elf_mage 23:56:46 372/432321 games for * (cv=0.17-a d): N=372/432321 (0.09%) 23:56:54 that's... pretty consistent 23:57:18 !send Grunt more consistency 23:57:19 Sending more consistency to Grunt. 23:57:24 !send PleasingFungus more pleasingness 23:57:25 Sending more pleasingness to PleasingFungus. 23:57:34 man, hobgoblins are just not doin that hot these days. 23:57:44 !lg * !recent s=cikiller 23:57:52 4050576 games for * (!recent): 810733x, 211399x a hobgoblin, 208323x a kobold, 203280x a gnoll, 164456x an orc priest, 137348x an orc wizard, 120737x an adder, 117081x a player ghost, 111972x an ogre, 106008x Sigmund, 101424x a jackal, 99955x an orc, 88329x a goblin, 78955x an orc warrior, 71002x a giant gecko, 67707x a centaur, 64132x a worm, 46104x a snake, 43136x Grinder, 35910x Terence, 33512x... 23:58:01 kobolds doin even worse! 23:58:05 rip... 23:58:05 !lg * recent s=cikiller 23:58:09 993610 games for * (recent): 125731x, 58100x a gnoll, 50603x an adder, 41131x a player ghost, 40070x a hobgoblin, 39848x an orc priest, 34336x a kobold, 33268x a jackal, 26748x an ogre, 26715x an orc wizard, 21889x a worm, 21396x an orc warrior, 21072x Sigmund, 20086x an orc, 18946x a goblin, 18084x a giant gecko, 14961x a centaur, 12376x Grinder, 12333x Natasha, 12249x Robin, 9372x a worker ant, ... 23:58:19 gnoll ascendancy, I guess 23:58:24 it's more that 23:58:28 players are getting better 23:58:29 i m h o 23:58:34 plausible 23:58:42 interesting to see player ghosts so much higher 23:59:44 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-846-g91b95b1 (34) 23:59:59 -!- Cacophony has quit [Quit: oh no am scare]