00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:19 which is what I'd expect from a god whose focus is entirely on allies 00:00:43 I agree. But you're still wrong, therefore I win and I'm going to bed. Good talk. 00:00:53 -!- ZChris13 has left ##crawl-dev 00:01:51 Hello everyone, is there a way to find javascript (webtiles) issues that need contributors? I couldn't figure it out on mantis. I'd like to find a way to contribute to crawl, and I write a lot of JS. 00:02:29 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [] 00:04:02 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:05:42 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-844-g9229740 (34) 00:06:29 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 00:07:51 -!- adamzap has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:18:40 -!- Gorgo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:21:54 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:23:41 adamzap: webtiles has been undergoing some changes over the past year in a new webtiles-changes branch 00:23:58 oh. they left 00:24:01 yes 00:24:03 :( 00:25:06 hm 00:25:17 todo: check with server admins on where webtiles-changes is at 00:25:18 <.< 00:25:35 I remember there being some tech obstacles but I don't remember what they were 00:25:47 gammafunk said I should try to get dbro updated again 00:25:54 they are making me upgrade to tornado 4 00:25:55 mm 00:26:01 !tornado johnstein 00:26:01 Grunt gestures wildly while chanting. A great vortex of air appears and lifts Grunt up! johnstein is engulfed in raging winds. 00:26:12 that will probably distract me for longer than I would care to admit to 00:26:29 !distract johnstein 00:27:13 ??dbro 00:27:13 dbro[1/2]: The development wing of CBRO. ssh to dev.berotato.org user: dev same ssh keys as cbro (http://crawl.beRotato.org/crawl/keys). Currently serving mediocre crawl dev versions and used to have Dwarf Fortress (running in TEXT mode) Set your terminal size to 80x25 (!) and ensure you are using UTF-8 character set. 00:27:40 -!- agentgt has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:28:01 -!- Placid has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:28:57 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:29:02 %git a85cfb7 00:29:02 07gammafunk02 * 0.16-a0-3865-ga85cfb7: Merge branch master into webtiles-changes 10(11 months ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a85cfb79899c 00:29:11 that's where dbro is 00:31:11 -!- Mercuria1Alchemi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:33:40 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:35:27 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:36:04 -!- kreedzfreak has quit [] 00:40:10 -!- cmcbot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:45:26 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:47:18 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 00:53:38 kvaak: argument: t provides interactivity. 00:54:04 silly, intuitive interactivity not tied to any god in any way 00:54:09 unintuitive even 00:54:28 well, the god gives you the allies that you can use t to command. 00:54:38 it's two pieces of a puzzle. 00:54:41 summoning spells also give you allies 00:55:01 sure. are you going to say that summoning & beogh give you the same playstyle? 00:56:06 I'm not sure what that has to do with anything 00:57:57 you claimed that 'there isn't a whole lot of interactivity [with beogh]'; I pointed out a major way in which you interact with beogh; you noted that said interaction also exists with other things than beogh. 00:58:23 I'm sorry, this is a stupid argument and I regret it. 00:59:22 PleasingFungus: vi is better than emacs 00:59:35 ha ha! you can't get me with that - I agree!!! 00:59:40 ha ha ha ha ha 01:00:02 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:45 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 01:04:29 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-844-g9229740 (34) 01:04:47 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 01:06:21 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:07:35 -!- infrashortfoo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:09:01 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:09:42 -!- kunwon1 is now known as democracy 01:09:46 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 42.0/20151029151421]] 01:10:57 -!- democracy is now known as kunwon1 01:17:38 -!- Sovek has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:18:31 too bad we lost adamzap 01:18:45 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-844-g9229740 (34) 01:21:39 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:31:11 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:31:54 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:34:43 -!- Dacendoran has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:54:52 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-844-g9229740 01:56:46 should pig form be able to use wands now that felid form can? 01:58:11 cats are a lot more flexible than pigs but someone in ##crawl just expected pig form to be able to use wands 01:58:17 17/12 23:07:51 < kvaak> is needlestabbing supposed to prevent shouting? 01:58:19 also this 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:07:15 -!- Krakhan|2 is now known as Krakhan 02:07:15 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 02:09:05 <|amethyst> %git 94d956b 02:09:05 07haranp02 * 0.5-a0-2493-g94d956b: Implement [2535038]: monsters now have a chance of shouting whenever they are woken up, unless it's by a successful stab. (The previous behaviour made them shout only when they were woken up by the player walking around.) 10(7 years ago, 4 files, 12+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/94d956b872a1 02:09:26 needlestabbing didn't exist 7 years ago 02:09:26 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:11:26 great gdd post up about rental cars, apparently 02:13:49 report it 02:14:00 k 02:14:07 forgot that was an option 02:17:16 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:21:55 'gozag likes it when you collect gold' - is this relevant when gozag has no piety? 02:22:10 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 02:22:59 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:23:10 shops like it when you collect gold 02:26:07 -!- mekhami has quit [Disconnected by services] 02:26:13 -!- lvanderpool is now known as mekhami 02:26:38 zxc: Yes, because gold is his piety 02:32:16 -!- mumbologist has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:33:34 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:34:36 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:37:17 -!- Placid has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:38:49 -!- Patashu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:39:00 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:39:21 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 02:40:47 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:46:06 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:48:58 player is alucard, old man is gozag: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPsQnsOHflc 02:52:00 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-844-g9229740 02:53:07 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09:18:32 -!- bencryption has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 09:27:09 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:34:10 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 09:41:30 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:54:17 -!- mumbologist has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:02:14 -!- Yermak has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:05:48 trying to see how pak quick charge numbers work... too hard 10:06:00 !source ability.cc:2965 10:06:00 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/ability.cc#l2965 10:06:34 but what I'm wondering is why it ignores item MP in den and what does that mean? 10:06:51 !source recharge_wand 10:06:51 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/evoke.cc#l811 10:09:26 !source mp_max_adj 10:09:26 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/player.h#l108 10:09:35 and what does that even mean 10:09:55 the loss of max MP 10:09:56 wheals: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:10:01 !messages 10:10:02 (1/1) amalloy said (14h 55m 48s ago): not only that, but you don't get a warning about that when you breathe towards allies who have rPois 10:10:05 ah 10:10:19 oh yeah amalloy_, fixing that bug was how i found that out 10:10:35 !source get_real_mp 10:10:36 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/player.cc#l4155 10:10:39 well, i mean trying to fix that bug 10:21:29 -!- beogh has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:22:37 -!- yaknyasn has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:22:37 -!- yaknyasn_ is now known as yaknyasn 10:24:09 so unless I read that wrong, quick charge depends on current mp, max mp without items and evo skill 10:24:29 which might be good, I don't know. but the in-game description is misleading 10:24:44 says "current pool of magic and your Evocations skill" 10:29:46 !tell Grunt Quick Charge description is misleading with "depends on current pool of mp and your evo skill". Looks like real factors are current MP including items, max MP without items, evo skill (unless I misunderstood the code). 10:29:46 Medar: OK, I'll let grunt know. 10:32:37 -!- Laptop_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:37:09 is it a bug if a summoned lord from a pentagram card blasts me with icestorm when I'm in the way? http://i.imgur.com/fc8ZYJO.png 10:37:53 if so I'll write up a bug report. just wasn't sure if that was a risk you had to consider if you happened to get a panlord from that card 10:38:10 if that was an expected result 10:40:13 it's called glaciate! 10:40:27 I don't know what the expected behaviour is 10:40:47 it technically isn't different from it hellfiring you 10:46:06 can someone remove that cang reply from Sequell? 10:46:06 cang 10:46:34 gets a bit old when there is a regular called that in ##crawl 10:49:28 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:50:17 !learn del :beh:[2] 10:50:19 Deleted :beh:[2/25]: <<<\bcang\b>>> ::: cang 10:50:53 !learn add :beh:[2] <<<^cang$>>> ::: cang 10:50:54 :beh:[2/25]: <<<^cang$>>> ::: cang 10:51:04 it shouldn't reply to every cang 10:51:10 but it should to 10:51:11 cang 10:51:12 cang 10:53:08 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 10:59:01 -!- radinms_ has quit [] 10:59:10 wheals: is a friendly pan lord allowed to hellfire you? 10:59:15 yeah 10:59:31 that's not very friendly 10:59:38 at least the hellfire goes away 10:59:39 well, not just out of the blue, but if you're standing next to an enemy 10:59:52 pan diplomacy 11:00:00 I had to use my only blink scroll to get out 11:00:11 wheals: thanks 11:01:07 hm 11:01:23 !learn set :beh:[2] cang ::: cang 11:01:25 :beh:[2/25]: cang ::: cang 11:01:27 cang 11:01:28 cang 11:01:31 but not cang 11:01:34 good 11:03:46 refactored 11:08:18 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:09:16 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:15:09 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 11:21:32 -!- Gobbo is now known as GoblinBOmb 11:21:35 -!- GoblinBOmb is now known as GoblinBomb 11:22:11 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:28 -!- xnavy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:24:49 -!- aparent has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:25:46 -!- aparent has joined ##crawl-dev 11:26:13 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:26:38 -!- Gorgo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:33:32 -!- Kelb has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:36:11 -!- Adeon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:37:02 -!- Adeon has joined ##crawl-dev 11:38:07 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:42:49 -!- lukano has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:43:47 -!- flappity has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:47:14 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 12:00:42 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:00:52 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 12:03:46 -!- Final has joined ##crawl-dev 12:04:22 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:04:51 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:05:03 -!- Dxctxrx_ has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 12:05:17 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-844-g9229740 (34) 12:05:24 Hi there, I have a question if somebody could help me out. I've seen some .rc files that use items.inventory() to return a table of items in your inventory- is there a function for returning all of the items that exist to your knowledge? I guess basically the same as Ctrl+F -> ".." 12:06:04 And where are those functions defined, if you do know? :) 12:07:46 try dgn.stash_items in l_dgnit.cc 12:08:20 and l_item_inventory in l_item.cc 12:08:36 (the former is defined as dgn_stash_items in C++) 12:08:49 i'll look there- I did try putting dgn.stash_items() in my rc but it couldn't find the definition for dgn, guessing that's not accessible player side? 12:09:42 it's possible, i don't see any reason why it shouldn't be but it's possible nobody bothered to expose it 12:10:05 Grunt may know more, having done dlua black magic as well as a clua bot 12:13:03 are you supposed to be able to acq a glowing quick blade that turns out to be +12? 12:13:05 seems a bit high 12:13:15 (not an artefact) 12:13:28 I think items.plus() might work. 12:13:33 or items.plus2() 12:13:53 I found the IDEFs in l_item.cc like you suggested 12:15:48 oh that's dlua too 12:15:48 hmm 12:15:52 gonna keep looking 12:16:04 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:17:16 don't think full knowledge clua api exists, there is some for floor items and you can weird things like call ^f 12:17:57 i see no reason it couldn't be added, though 12:18:17 yeah, would be good 12:18:53 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:38 -!- WorkSight has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:23:12 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:27:28 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: Farewell.] 12:28:33 Gonna get some lunch, if anybody finds out then it would be awesome if you left me a tell 12:32:53 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 12:33:57 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:48:19 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:52:08 ??lua 12:52:09 lua[1/1]: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html 12:53:32 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 12:53:37 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:03:43 chequers: yeah, some people have pointed that out 13:04:01 about la apts, sorry, that was like a day ago 13:06:12 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:06:36 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:11:59 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 13:12:23 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 13:16:14 -!- Dixlet has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:18:19 -!- beogh has joined ##crawl-dev 13:18:48 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:24:10 A modest Beogh proposal, in no certain order: 13:24:17 1. Change wizard blinking to escape only 13:24:25 2. Have ability to reverse recall so that the weakest guys come through first 13:24:33 3. Have Beogh gift stronger allies after reaching 3 runes. (The top tiers are not that special at that stage in the game, so why can't we ever have them gifted) 13:24:40 4. Ability to gift one weapon AND one piece of armour 13:24:47 5. Recall works on allies in Abyss 13:24:55 6. Confused allies do not stumble into deep water 13:25:06 Bam, beogh is relevant again in late game ^^ ok ty all for your time 13:29:26 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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ToastedZergling, XL15 GrEE, T:29180 (milestone) requested for moon: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 15:51:41 -!- uJellie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:54:46 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:56:57 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:58:40 -!- uJellie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:58:48 I feel like if his first mistake was picking that name 16:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:48 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:06:19 The white ugly thing gores you. The white ugly thing freezes you! You resist. 16:06:19 The translocation field surrounding you vibrates and the white ugly thing 16:06:19 disappears! 16:06:19 _The white ugly thing gores you. The white ugly thing freezes you! You resist. 16:06:33 Wow, new cekugob is great!!! 16:11:38 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 16:12:24 -!- Jessika has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:15:57 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:18:01 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:20:03 -!- Twinge has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:20:51 this guy basically barely survived, managed to kill the moon troll after random teleport, accidentally used the portal to leave, LRDed back in to get the loot 16:21:06 but then decided to finish the whole map and died 16:21:30 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:22:05 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:24:14 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 16:26:57 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:28:31 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:36:18 i had a dream last night that crawl had a fixedart crossbow that fired 3 bolts at once, and another fixedart crossbow that was +27 16:36:29 i used both of them to shoot donald trump 16:36:44 minmay, thank you 16:40:28 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:41:37 hmm, trog's hand's regeneration doesn't work on deep dwarves, does it? 16:42:21 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 16:43:53 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 16:44:10 it does 16:45:21 is the regeneration effect maybe just too weak at the moment? 16:46:32 nevermind, got it 16:46:36 thanks! 16:46:50 DDBe is still easy if that's what you're asking 16:50:21 -!- Tilogour has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:52:29 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:54:40 -!- beogh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:55:51 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:04:50 -!- kuniqs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:11:05 -!- tollymain has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:14:48 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:20:37 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:20:45 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 17:22:53 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:26:13 -!- adamzap has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:26:45 Could not execute monster-0.17: No such file or directory 17:26:45 %0.17?mnoleg 17:26:51 rip 17:26:58 %0.17??mnoleg 17:35:48 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:37:47 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:55:06 -!- vev has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:58:10 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:58:34 -!- Placid has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:02:06 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-a0-844-g9229740 (34) 18:07:24 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 18:09:38 -!- MercurialAlchemi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:15:13 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:15:56 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 18:21:22 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 18:27:36 -!- Gorgo has quit [Client Quit] 18:28:59 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 18:33:02 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 18:44:28 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:49:42 -!- Runn has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:51:30 -!- siepu_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:55:23 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:06 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:01:18 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:01:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 19:08:25 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:10:48 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 19:13:31 -!- cang is now known as gong 19:13:45 -!- AreBrandon is now known as cang 19:16:14 -!- cang is now known as AreBrandon 19:17:12 -!- tupper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:17:31 cang 19:17:32 cang 19:17:36 ??cang 19:17:36 cang 19:18:07 -!- Porost has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:18:17 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:19:42 -!- molotove has quit [Client Quit] 19:23:23 so I heard that dipping zigs was removed 19:23:56 ??zigfig 19:23:57 I don't have a page labeled zigfig in my learndb. 19:24:01 ...we don't...? 19:24:04 ?/figurine of a 19:24:05 Matching terms (1): figurine_of_a_ziggurat 19:24:13 !learn add zigfig see {figurine of a ziggurat} 19:24:13 zigfig[1/1]: see {figurine of a ziggurat} 19:24:15 ??zigfig 19:24:16 ziggurat[8/8]: In 0.18+, Ziggurats no longer spawn in Pan and instead a ziggurat figurine is placed at the bottom of each ziggurat and Tomb:3. The figurine can be evoked to spawn another ziggurat. 19:24:18 ^ 19:24:37 (note that the Depths zig is still present) 19:25:00 so you get two guaranteed tries at a zig and another every time you complete a zig 19:25:38 I think that's a bit harsh, I'd put it on Zig:22 or something 19:25:56 that's my two cents, thank you for your time 19:28:49 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:34:15 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:37:36 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:42:01 i feel like anyone who wants another zig badly enough to get to zig:22 can get to zig:27 instead 19:42:27 personally i usually go no deeper than like zig:14, so it makes little difference to me 19:42:28 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:44:50 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 19:44:55 !messages 19:44:56 (1/1) Grunt said (2d 1h 56m 27s ago): You can never escape !messages. 19:46:18 We still have branch-depending shop placement, right? If we want to, we could increase the Orc shop rate a little bit, although it's certainly not possible for balance (players complain about fewer items and fewer shops, but so what). I like the flavour of orcs as merchants :) 19:47:23 FR guarantee 4 shops on orc:1 too 19:48:06 8 shops! 19:48:33 -!- Dxctxrx has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 19:49:47 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 19:53:46 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:58:17 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:00:05 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:04:13 -!- WorkSight has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20:04:32 dpeg just wants to shop around that idea. 20:08:15 if he needed a mockup 20:08:17 I could 20:08:18 shop it 20:08:29 also I don't know what we're talking about. 20:11:23 dpeg was considering adding more shops to Orc 20:12:20 I see 20:12:23 v0v 20:12:32 8 shops seems excessive 20:14:51 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 20:16:27 you're thinking maybe 16 shops? per floor? 20:16:27 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 20:16:44 clearly the orcs secretly follow Gozag 20:17:00 and I assume you also want to add stairs to the orcish bazaar near the orc:2 shops 20:17:22 .wizrank recent 20:17:34 230/5584 milestones for * (br.enter=wizlab milestone!~~hellbinder|cloud|erinya|upun|cekugob|borgnjor|a_wizard recent): 41/565x entered Lehudib's Moon Base. [7.26%], 44/689x entered Doroklohe's Tomb. [6.39%], 41/790x entered Wucad Mu's Monastery. [5.19%], 36/766x entered Iskenderun's Mystic Tower. [4.70%], 7/219x entered Eringya's Formal Garden. [3.20%], 23/771x entered The Roulette of Golubria. [2... 20:17:50 .gfgk br=wizlab recent 20:17:51 34. ToastedZergling the Devastator (L16 GrEE of Vehumet), slain by a brown very ugly thing in WizLab (wizlab_lehudib) on 2015-12-18 03:43:48, with 120748 points after 31364 turns and 4:45:49. 20:18:07 hm 20:18:09 !cmd .gfgk 20:18:10 Command: .gfgk => .gfmap br!=D|lair kmap!~~entry|enter|runelock $* 20:18:15 !cmd .gfmap 20:18:15 Command: .gfmap => !lg * kmap~~gammafunk|wizlab_lehudib $* 20:18:22 ah 20:22:32 !lg * kmap~~pf_ cv>=0.17 s=kmap 20:22:33 86 games for * (kmap~~pf_ cv>=0.17): 78x pf_orc_diabolical, 7x pf_torpor_hydra, pf_snail_temple 20:23:00 wonder how much of that is difficulty vs placement freq 20:25:39 -!- liquidsnake has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:29:41 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:36:39 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:47:13 !learn add old_wizlabs %git 9c11f61 20:47:13 old wizlabs[1/1]: %git 9c11f61 20:47:16 !learn add old_wizlabs %git f9ff493 20:47:17 old wizlabs[2/2]: %git f9ff493 20:48:59 (probably going to revisit Borg's if/when vampire lords are added; still need to think about an enemy set for Ozo's) 20:49:08 (but I am planning to finish up both of those at some point) 20:49:57 FR ozo's wizlab is the inside of a giant hollow ice beast 20:50:09 so it's shaped like a Y? 20:50:10 <.< 20:50:18 or a frozen-over waterpark 20:50:27 there's already a map for Ozo's; it just needs a realistic enemy set 20:50:49 that ideally doesn't step too much on the toes of ice caves 20:51:14 could do: ice dragons, frost giants, shard shrike or two as a boss 20:54:01 -MONS: ice statue spells:ice_storm col:darkgrey name:black name_adjective 20:54:17 things not to do... 20:56:13 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:58:10 -!- eb_ has quit [] 20:58:34 -!- gong has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02:06 -!- iafm has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:08:22 I asked earlier so sorry for that repeat, but is it expected that a summoned friendly panlord could cast glaciate at you (if you were somehow in the vicinity of an enemy)? it was explained to me that hellfire is already OK as potential friendly fire. but hellfire doesn't get you stuck in a freezing cloud of ice 21:09:02 luckily I had one blink scroll 21:10:29 it's "intended" yeah 21:10:41 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:12:27 pan lords are not very considerate 21:19:08 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:24:39 is there any way to disable the rest-to-full behaviour of 5 and make it always wait a maximum of 100 turns like it used to? 21:30:35 -!- molotove has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:34:23 there's GDD talk about Ring of Flames, and the sane people there seem to agree it's underpowered... people suggest lowering level to 5, or dropping Charms 21:35:32 i don't think so, minmay 21:35:36 !source _should_stop_activity 21:35:36 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/delay.cc#l1295 21:35:53 it only looks at % of current as far as i can tell 21:37:27 well that's going to be a lot of lost trog piety then 21:38:02 dpeg: i dont know why you would drop charms from it, its clearly a charm and it wouldn't really make it easier to cast for characters with sane skill training 21:39:23 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:39:46 minmay: I am just reporting from GDD. I agree that simply dropping the level is easier and better. 21:55:30 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:55:48 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:56:01 -!- bullock has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:40 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: nights] 22:02:09 ring of flames at L5 would be ridiculously good, maybe L6 would be fine though 22:06:34 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:06:47 I still remember the time that I saw an acquire scroll in Pan, cast RoF to kill something (like I had been doing all throughout Pan)...then spent like 15 minutes searching in vain for the scroll 22:07:01 back in the good old days of item destruction 22:07:28 Bring Back Item Destruction 22:08:00 i remember the time i cast RoF in zot:5, getting to rC- because i thought the clouds protected me from cold projectiles, and got nailed by throw icicle 22:08:31 well, they protect from many cold projectiles. 22:08:32 yeah I guess that protection is just like bolts of cold, not projectiles? 22:08:36 yeah 22:08:41 -!- notrobot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:08:42 easy to forget 22:08:44 throw icicle is special 22:08:44 i know that now 22:08:51 it works against throw frost and maybe bolt of cold 22:09:04 i think that game was my first attempt at pan 22:09:07 PleasingFungus: yeah it's just the "beam" versus "bolt" thing 22:09:14 I don't think it is. 22:09:14 !lg . nrune>5 1 22:09:15 1/7. Mountebank the Elven Blade (L27 HEHu of Zin), blasted by a grey draconian knight (shard of ice) on Zot:5 (hall_of_Zot) on 2014-09-22 03:41:09, with 932455 points after 123523 turns and 1d+0:58:30. 22:10:16 cast conjure flame against an orc wizard sometime, for example. 22:10:55 It's not the "beam" versus "bolt" thing 22:10:56 yeah, flame clouds will block both throw frost & bolt of cold. 22:11:02 it's BEAM_COLD versus not BEAM_COLD 22:11:36 bolt of cold and throw frost are BEAM_COLD beams 22:11:42 throw icicle is not 22:11:50 arrows of frost used to be, now they aren't 22:12:07 huh 22:12:09 what are they now 22:12:19 dunno but it's not BEAM_COLD because ring of flames sure as hell doesn't block them 22:12:26 yeah so icicle isn't really the thing that's special 22:12:29 also, iirc they're not pure elemental damage anymore? 22:12:32 correct 22:12:41 -!- argent0 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:12:49 that is why they aren't BEAM_COLD! 22:12:50 .jsmap 22:12:53 :) 22:12:56 I mean 22:13:00 157. RitorJet the Gusty (L4 MuAE of Sif Muna), blasted by a kobold (wand of flame) on D:3 (johnstein_pakellas_death_squad) on 2015-12-19 00:50:59, with 135 points after 4222 turns and 0:11:00. 22:13:02 <3 22:13:44 god damn it, my emoji are out of date. 22:13:46 this is terrible. 22:14:22 -!- Dxctxrx has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:15:14 I think emoji are supposed to be bad anyhow 22:15:20 what! 22:15:22 what is this! 22:15:23 the japanese don't like them 22:16:43 So my question is, how good are my chances of becoming Japanese for real? 22:16:59 !hs minmay dgwn 22:17:00 35. minmay the Grand Master (L27 DgWn), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2014-03-16 19:47:07, with 1940332 points after 112198 turns and 4:28:40. 22:17:16 not too impressive...... 22:17:49 !hs * dgwn 22:17:50 27242. MrPlanck the Eclecticist (L27 DgWn), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-06-06 16:52:35, with 17846633 points after 85589 turns and 10:10:19. 22:17:59 beatable 22:18:06 no by you LOL 22:18:20 rekt 22:18:23 :( 22:18:27 !lm panrobin 22:18:27 64. [2014-11-05 17:16:29] panrobin the Magician (L1 HuWz) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 22:18:30 huh 22:18:34 !lg panrobin dgwn 22:18:35 No games for panrobin (dgwn). 22:18:35 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:18:38 !lg panrobin 22:18:39 3. panrobin the Firebug (L2 DgFE), hit from afar by a kobold (stone) on D:1 on 2014-08-14 23:05:46, with 23 points after 1185 turns and 0:03:05. 22:18:40 ??panrobin 22:18:40 panrobin[1/1]: A doomed attempt to teach certain devs the joys of Extended. Get the first three runes yourself, then hand over the keys to your dev of choice for the remaining ten! CSZO, password "hailsatan666". 22:18:44 !hs panrobin 22:18:45 3. panrobin the Stinger (L4 NaVM), slain by an adder on D:3 on 2014-08-14 01:29:06, with 80 points after 1868 turns and 0:07:23. 22:18:50 hmmm... 22:18:53 !lm panrobin dg 22:18:54 61. [2014-08-18 04:05:22] panrobin the Warrior (L24 DgFE) entered the Realm of Zot on turn 77472. (Depths:5) 22:18:57 wow has that ever actually been done 22:18:59 there we go 22:19:14 ??panrobin 22:19:15 panrobin[1/1]: A doomed attempt to teach certain devs the joys of Extended. Get the first three runes yourself, then hand over the keys to your dev of choice for the remaining ten! CSZO, password "hailsatan666". 22:19:21 . . . 22:19:22 the answer is: yes, but it turns out people don't like playing other people's characters 22:19:29 so, rip 22:19:57 I think I'd get distracted by the weird rc settings 22:20:09 reaverb changed them as soon as he took over 22:20:13 just spending 30 minutes figuring out why they made it the way they did 22:20:23 haha 22:21:00 gammafunk: change the rc stuff back, of course 22:21:15 anyway it was a fun char 22:21:21 and kind of cratecrawl 22:21:25 in effect 22:21:35 i think it's fun to take over someone else's char. i do that some for comborobin 22:21:58 I haven't tried myself 22:22:06 I'd feel super bad about splatting 22:22:17 amalloy: I'm goign to send you a big book of my jokes so you'll never not get them again 22:22:41 .jsmap -tv 22:22:52 157. RitorJet, XL4 MuAE, T:4222 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 22:22:54 was that the one you starved..no you didn't actually starve 22:22:57 you just ascended 22:23:40 The Big Boof of Bafflement, by gammafunk 22:23:44 *Book 22:24:06 Big Boof would be a good unrand name 22:24:24 or maybe the name of a juggernaut unique 22:25:42 fr Andre the iron giant 22:26:00 yeah, goes with Chuck 22:26:04 .ironed 22:26:05 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:26:05 20. [dam=55;tdam=55] AnCiEnTIStOnEIBeAsT the Executioner (L27 GrFi of The Shining One), thrown by an iron giant on Dis:7 (dis_st) on 2015-12-18 15:38:23, with 933672 points after 60654 turns and 3:47:39. 22:26:11 quite the account name 22:26:56 -!- Sovek has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:27:47 ??crawl players[$ 22:27:47 crawl players[21/21]: fiftyfootphallus (L27 DrBe) found a fiery rune of Zot. (Pan) 22:28:19 !learn del crawl_players[21] 22:28:20 Deleted crawl players[21/21]: fiftyfootphallus (L27 DrBe) found a fiery rune of Zot. (Pan) 22:28:21 ??crawl players[$ 22:28:21 crawl players[20/20]: futacatgirl's ghost wins 16.66% of battles. 22:28:55 gammafunk: in my dream okawaru was also buffed, hint hint 22:29:56 the one where you killed trump? if you didn't also kill vice president Gozag it's not a prophetic dream anyways 22:30:07 is that supposed to be ancient sonte beast 22:30:13 *stone 22:30:27 kvaak: ohhhhh 22:30:34 kvaak: I was trying to figure out whant an istonei was 22:31:12 I was strongly considering making Sniper +27, at some point 22:31:21 I had to double check to make sure I hadn't gone through with it 22:31:28 ?? dark maul 22:31:29 dark maul[1/2]: +10 great mace of crushing with altered stats: 52 dam / -2 acc / 3.0 base delay / 1.65 min delay (with 27 m&f) 22:31:56 I guess there's already sword of power 22:32:00 !hp tr 27 27 22:32:01 HP apt: 3!, XL: 27, Fighting: 27 => MHP = 323 22:32:05 !hp na 27 27 22:32:06 HP apt: 2, XL: 27, Fighting: 27 => MHP = 298 22:35:08 Um 22:35:21 Is it intended that when you kill a profane servitor now, the umbra stays? 22:36:35 nope 22:36:55 Well, I just killed a profane servitor and the umbra stayed for a few hundred turns 22:38:04 I wonder if I broke that somehow 22:38:11 I vaguely remember tinkering with some code near that 22:38:17 !lm minmay x=vlong 22:38:18 i heard about that happening with angel/halo to someone 22:38:19 26334. [2015-12-19 03:33:06] [vlong=0.18-a0-844-g9229740] minmay the Warrior (L21 MuBe of Trog) killed Jory on turn 47674. (Crypt:2) 22:38:27 weeks or months ago 22:38:31 -!- Dixlet has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:38:34 hm, trivial to reproduce 22:38:37 the servitor thing 22:38:45 I nominate gammafunk to fix it. 22:39:01 is that a joke? i don't understand humor with gammafunk in it 22:39:11 iirc he touched the death code at some point, so it's probably his fault somehow. 22:39:15 s/with gammafunk // 22:39:21 well 22:39:25 you get the idea of that dunk 22:39:38 yeah you just killed it and it stayed? 22:39:44 is it really there, or just a visual 22:40:00 it said "this square is wreathed by an umbra" when i x'd it 22:40:07 didn't try to test the accuracy malus 22:40:12 same 22:40:15 too lazy to actually test it offline :P 22:40:17