00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:03:05 wow, so the tavern was an amazing place to check for artists 00:03:32 25 of the people on my list had exact matching people to PM 00:03:41 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 00:06:17 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.18-a0-750-g37044d6 (34) 00:06:34 -!- donblas has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:09:39 -!- tollymain has joined ##crawl-dev 00:10:06 -!- dtsundere has joined ##crawl-dev 00:10:32 -!- dtsundere is now known as dtsund 00:13:19 Stable (0.17) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17.1-1-g73c8601 00:22:36 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:23:52 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 00:25:17 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 00:32:23 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:32:35 -!- inire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:33:29 e ghostly deep elf death mage 00:33:36 shouldn't the glyph change? 00:33:47 almost nothing else does 00:34:07 ghostly is very very close to just "can't be lost soul-ified again", iirc 00:34:10 -!- WTFace has quit [] 00:35:17 yeah seems like that should just be something simpler 00:35:22 or (gasp!) not a thing at all 00:35:44 -!- Jessika has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:36:59 -!- DALuke has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 00:37:57 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 00:37:58 The build passed. (master - 37044d6 #4174 : Steve Melenchuk): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/96200348 00:37:58 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 00:38:35 <|amethyst> ghostly does include resistances 00:39:01 <|amethyst> %git 4d5bba2 00:39:02 07wheals02 * 0.16-a0-667-g4d5bba2: Make lost soul revival of living monsters a bit more interesting again. 10(1 year, 3 months ago, 3 files, 10+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4d5bba26484e 00:39:18 <|amethyst> %git 0e1b8faa9 00:39:18 07wheals02 * 0.15-a0-1728-g0e1b8fa: Make living lost soul revival more like the undead one. 10(1 year, 5 months ago, 7 files, 37+ 88-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0e1b8faa9d18 00:39:41 also my bolt of drain 00:39:45 is targetting lost souls 00:39:52 but they're immune to negative energy 00:40:01 *default targeting 00:40:16 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 00:42:16 <|amethyst> gammafunk: that's not specific to draining... I think pretty much everything will cycle through immune creatures as long as there is at least one non-immune 00:42:32 yara's won't!!! 00:42:39 I put WORK into that targeter 00:42:56 -!- vev has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:43:52 -!- mong has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:48:40 -!- HellTiger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:51:01 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 42.0/20151029151421]] 00:57:26 -!- MercurialAlchemi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:11 -!- cmcbot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:03:18 Stable (0.17) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17.1-1-g73c8601 01:07:48 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.18-a0-750-g37044d6 (34) 01:12:07 gammafunk, your stream died 01:14:46 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17.1-1-g73c8601 (34) 01:19:38 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-750-g37044d6 (34) 01:20:18 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:22:18 -!- FireSight has quit [] 01:24:33 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 01:39:08 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:45:21 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: Farewell.] 01:49:27 what if we removed rP from most demons 01:52:37 it's hardly flavorful and it's kind of a shame that like 70% of the monsters in the game are rP "just because" 01:55:04 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.18-a0-750-g37044d6 01:57:54 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 42.0/20151029151421]] 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:27 sInv maybe 02:00:34 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 02:01:44 well sinv is sort of the same way 02:03:26 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:05:57 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:08:49 -!- R18 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:17:55 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:20:00 -!- mango_lives has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:21:51 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:26:07 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:33:35 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:35:15 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:38:32 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:48:47 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:49:42 -!- Idolo has quit [] 02:51:24 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 02:52:27 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:56:59 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02:15 -!- flappity has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:07:04 &dump inquiry 03:07:04 http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM/crawl/morgue/Inquiry/Inquiry.txt 03:07:44 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:12:23 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:14:47 -!- Hiffwe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:21:48 -!- Suga_H has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:22:08 Stable (0.17) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17.1-1-g73c8601 03:25:43 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 03:30:25 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:32:57 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.18-a0-750-g37044d6 (34) 03:33:49 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:34:34 -!- cang_ is now known as cang 03:39:13 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:44:19 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:46:11 -!- CrayRabbit has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:48:48 _B - tha +9 blowgun o' Incongruity (weapon) {speed, Fragile rC+ rN+ Str+4} 03:48:55 i feel like fragile shouldn't go on blowguns 03:50:22 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:52:57 !tell |amethyst is fragile intended to be on blowguns? that feels like an oversight to me. i just got _B - tha +9 blowgun o' Incongruity (weapon) {speed, Fragile rC+ rN+ Str+4} in a labyrinth. 03:52:57 ProzacElf: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 03:53:07 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:57:00 -!- WhodaMan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:01:39 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 04:03:14 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:03:47 -!- zzzzz__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:07:05 -!- zzzzzzzzz_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:13:27 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:18:15 -!- Naruni has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:18:38 why not, ProzacElf? Fragile is basically another flavor of *Contam/*Drain, which can both go on blowguns 04:19:07 who's ever going to equip a blowgun and plan to keep it equipped forever? 04:19:42 *contam and drain at least give you the option to unequip if you ever want to use it again 04:19:59 although *contam is more of an obstacle than *drain imo 04:20:23 I mean that's just a blowgun with one use 04:20:37 might be an interesting thing to have, might n 04:20:39 *ot 04:20:53 or maybe a primary conjurer would wield it all the time 04:21:19 i suppose 04:21:41 transmuter was about the only application i could think of for it 04:22:19 i guess some people are way more committed to casting than i am 04:22:24 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 04:22:40 I don't realy like Fragile on weapons tbh 04:24:19 i'm inclined to agree 04:24:38 but even then, it makes more sense on melee than on ranged, and more sense on every other launcher than blowgun 04:26:23 i mean, if it stays in i'm not especially hurt by it 04:27:17 gammafunk, what do you like it on? armour? 04:27:40 ProzacElf: because you aren't that fragile? 04:27:48 har har 04:27:50 indeed 04:28:23 fr: xom adds fragile to something you have equipped 04:28:37 heh 04:28:41 that'd be cute 04:30:11 -!- Hurricos has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:31:05 -!- cang has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:36:47 -!- Rand0m has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:40:09 probably encourages tedious optimal play tho 04:48:29 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:49:27 a - 1069 gold the +7 short sword of Xohu {vamp, Fragile rPois rF++ rN+}. now that's a fragile weapon good enough to consider on some guys 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:01:32 -!- TurboShoah has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:04:08 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 05:09:28 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:11:09 -!- rchandra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:12:26 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:38:44 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:38:56 -!- uJellie has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:38:56 -!- ahfdahdfha has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:39:03 -!- flappity has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:42:47 -!- dsdfasfda has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:43:35 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:44:59 -!- fhsdfhsdfh has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:45:10 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:48:17 -!- asdasfa has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:51:14 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 05:51:19 There is an interesting comment about Crawl as-is by dynast, on https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=18489 05:51:51 I don't have time to comment right now, hopefully I don't forget to comment later. Even if you disagree completely, it makes a worthwhile reading, imo. 05:52:41 -!- safaf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:55:57 -!- dfhdjsfh has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:56:01 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:56:01 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:58:45 *nod* 05:59:03 The sweet spot (according to the analysis) doesn't last very many dungeon levels..! 06:00:01 Keskitalo: having made the game shorter, and continuing to do so, is good. But at some point we have to talk about linearity vs branching, imo. I don't think branching has to go away, but I do think it has to be approached differently. 06:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:05:42 -!- morfei has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:12:34 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:13:02 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:16:25 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:18:07 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:18:19 -!- xtwv has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:26:51 -!- theperson88 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:32:05 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:35:35 Killing Kirke and then a hog with cleaving gives transformation revert message for the dead hog 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10158 by evktalo 06:45:14 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 06:47:15 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 06:50:38 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:56:39 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:02:30 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:11:17 Simply nothing happens 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10159 by Sinka 07:11:25 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:18:27 -!- StarButterfly has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:22:23 -!- kuniqs has quit [Client Quit] 07:22:28 -!- rj54x_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:29:06 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:36:08 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:55:24 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 08:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:02:30 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 08:02:43 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:04:25 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Client Quit] 08:12:55 -!- vev_ is now known as vev 08:14:48 -!- DEFE has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:15:06 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:21:42 -!- cang has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:26:27 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:48:17 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:52:38 -!- Blasterino has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:53:23 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:58:12 -!- voker57 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:01:56 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:11:43 -!- voker57 has quit [Changing host] 09:14:29 -!- PsyMar has quit [Quit: witty quit message goes here] 09:15:23 -!- voker57 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:15:32 -!- CKyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:16:46 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:17:48 -!- Alcopop has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:26:08 -!- voker57 has quit [Changing host] 09:29:02 carpets of the archives? 09:34:08 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 09:34:36 -!- dacendoran has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:34:45 -!- kazimuth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:35:48 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 09:35:52 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:37:38 -!- xnavy_ is now known as xnavy 09:39:01 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 09:41:46 -!- kuniqs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:42:53 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:45:12 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00:56 -!- tollymain has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 10:20:16 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 10:42:42 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:45:39 -!- cang is now known as gong 10:46:14 -!- gong is now known as cang 10:50:57 @??skeletal warrior 10:50:58 skeletal warrior (10z) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 56-73 | AC/EV: 15/10 | Dam: 25 | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(100), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 770 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 10:51:00 @??wight 10:51:00 wight (03z) | Spd: 10 | HD: 3 | HP: 9-23 | AC/EV: 6/10 | Dam: 813(drain) | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(20), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 59 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 10:51:06 @??vampire 10:51:07 vampire (05V) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 24-43 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 15, 1505(vampiric) | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(40), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 213 | Sp: vampiric draining, confuse, invisibility | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 10:57:31 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:10:08 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:17:30 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 11:19:58 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 42.0/20151029151421]] 11:22:11 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:22:28 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:23:54 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:24:41 -!- inire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:29:21 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 11:33:33 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 11:42:50 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:44:25 -!- mopl is now known as mopl_weekend 11:48:03 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 11:59:55 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01:36 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:06:31 Stable (0.17) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17.1-1-g73c8601 12:12:33 -!- cang has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:16:08 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.18-a0-750-g37044d6 (34) 12:20:31 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:24:15 -!- mopl_weekend has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:31:34 -!- bleak has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:33:24 hmm 12:33:26 You climb upwards. 12:33:26 Out of bounds monster: SriBri's ghost at (0, 0), midx = 10 12:33:26 _Monster SriBri's ghost in rock_wall at (0, 0) 12:36:01 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:40:23 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:40:55 extra spooky 12:40:59 indeed 12:40:59 !lm jefus x=vlong 12:41:00 6172. [2015-12-11 17:32:00] [vlong=0.18-a0-742-g58cbb28] Jefus the Carver (L7 HESk of Zin) became a worshipper of Zin on turn 4902. (D:4) 12:41:08 just submitted report 12:41:50 -!- CKyle_ has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 12:42:03 good 12:42:12 -!- mekhami has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.3] 12:42:50 Out of bounds ghost 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10160 by jefus 12:42:50 also can't figure out how i killed eustachio on this level as i never noticed him 12:42:58 but that's probably me not understanding all the ways things can die out of LOS 12:43:26 -!- Arivia has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 12:47:17 -!- molotove has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:57:59 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:05 jefus: most likely is that there is some vault placing clouds 13:00:06 the floor where i found the out of bounds ghost is also where i killed Pikel. two floors down from that, i found a free slave which maybe is just a shafting, but got two more of the same out of bounds ghost error 13:00:19 (for killing eustachio without seeing him) 13:00:46 didn't see any clouds after finishing exploring 13:00:54 although that doesn't mean i didn't miss something 13:02:06 I think if a monster shafted from an earlier level while confused then that could also explain it 13:02:18 interesting 13:03:14 the large slime creature of experience 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10161 by aaron 13:03:14 -!- xczxc has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:04:50 haven't confused anyone to my knowledge so far 13:05:55 is there any remote chance that's related to now multiple out of bounds errors this game? 13:06:21 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:07:27 jefus: oh, probably eustachio was just killed by freed pikel slaves 13:07:33 since I see you killed pikel first 13:07:38 oh right 13:08:13 i was between some corners so that makes sense 13:10:11 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:21:07 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:58 -!- Dixlet has quit [Quit: lates] 13:25:16 what an odd game; first time i've ever seen yiuf not in his treehouse too 13:34:21 * geekosaur sees that any time something is noisy near his cottage 13:34:52 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 13:34:54 lol 13:40:45 i never really see him leave either 13:40:53 although i often see him walled in by mushrooms 13:42:47 was in average-looking rock-walled room when i found him 13:44:40 heh 13:45:27 the one time i can remember him leaving his room he straight up murdered me 13:45:58 i had just barely survived some fight with an orc band and then when i tried to rest, there's yiuf ready to pound me to dust 13:46:44 not very nice 13:47:21 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 14:58:24 it's also hard to convey a console hexgrid 15:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:15 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:03:47 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:03:48 !tell Grunt I was going to tell you that it's bad that Pak can't enhance dispater's staff and started to write a patch for it, but then I saw the math and why you probably decided to leave that one alone 15:03:48 gammafunk: OK, I'll let grunt know. 15:04:08 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 15:04:57 It would be hard in a console. My idea for the proof of concept is to use graphical tiles with the corresponding console symbols on them 15:05:09 -!- Kolbur has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:45 !tell Grunt I guess you could preserve the current power progression of an item like that and have pak enhance it, but then we'd have have all these different formulas for evocations enhancement 15:06:45 gammafunk: OK, I'll let grunt know. 15:09:59 -!- Evablue has quit [Client Quit] 15:10:44 jewellery in shops doesn't get listed with ctrl+f and "jewellery" 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10162 by Kolbur 15:22:26 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 15:23:25 dealpete: hexcrawl was tried long ago (before my time) 15:23:28 ??hexcrawl 15:23:28 hexcrawl[1/2]: A variant of Crawl on a hexagonal grid, dreamed up by a deranged mind known only as 'zugz'. (except when he's known as 'martin bays') 15:23:30 ??hexcrawl[2] 15:23:30 hexcrawl[2/2]: http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=log;h=refs/heads/hexcrawl 15:23:48 based on 0.3 apparently 15:26:48 -!- NoCredit has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:30:08 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:32:21 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:33:15 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:35:51 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 15:38:08 it's compiling...with a log of gcc warnings 15:39:20 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 15:40:02 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:46:26 Backgrounds start with food in slot "e" even though crawl otherwise tries to avoid this. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10163 by crate 15:48:49 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 15:49:54 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:52:07 -!- Kolbur has left ##crawl-dev 15:53:49 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 15:55:00 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:10 -!- mong has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:15:59 -!- agentgt has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:21:05 -!- agentgt has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:49:09 -!- agentgt has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:52:46 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 16:54:40 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:57:21 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:14:46 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:19:46 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:21:47 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:35 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:23:45 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:27:22 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:29:30 -!- KurzedMetal1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:30:32 -!- Bacon is now known as Guest92849 17:31:24 -!- KurzedMetal2 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:32:02 -!- KurzedMetal3 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:32:51 -!- MercurialAlchemi has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:33:56 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:34:10 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:35:00 -!- Guest92849 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:36:01 -!- Baconsquid_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:36:39 -!- omniguy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:38:09 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 17:38:28 -!- Baconkiddo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:38:42 Hi? 17:38:54 I have a problem and was told to ask for help here 17:38:57 :| 17:39:15 ...and this would be why I suggested the bug tracker 17:39:27 I see 17:39:30 I might be the only one around right now... and I'm not actually a dev. (I do the OS X builds) 17:39:41 -!- pwnmonkey_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:39:51 aw maaan 17:40:08 guess there's no other way out 17:40:53 (in fact I'm doing an updated build now with the searing ray bug fix for 0.17.1) 17:47:31 -!- MgDark has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:48:30 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:48:31 -!- njorth has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:50:11 well posting on mantis is a good idea either way. but certainly asking your actual question here would be more productive than waiting for someone to say "sure, please ask your question" 17:51:00 oh ok 17:51:01 so 17:51:03 http://i.imgur.com/UZFOMsf.png 17:51:14 my game looks like this, I'm using the trunk build 17:51:18 old versions look fine 17:51:39 apparently there was some ui change? 17:51:44 and it broke my game 17:51:48 goodness 17:52:25 <|amethyst> hm 17:52:26 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 17:52:34 !messages 17:52:35 No messages for Baconkiddo_. 17:53:24 well i have no idea what's wrong, but see how by being more specific you've gotten |amethyst's attention 17:53:41 <|amethyst> so you don't have the play area at all, just the panel? 17:53:55 nononono 17:54:00 sorry, the rest of the game looks fine 17:54:16 lemme take a large ss 17:54:29 there was a change with respect to the background of tiles int hat area 17:54:47 <|amethyst> you mean the fact that there's no border anymore? 17:55:30 yeah 17:55:48 http://i.imgur.com/keiTeVi.png 17:55:50 see, rest looks fine 17:56:20 -!- agentgt has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:56:42 <|amethyst> is there anything missing? 17:56:46 <|amethyst> you said "it broke my game" 17:56:51 -!- Menche has quit [Client Quit] 17:56:58 %git 4aaebea 17:56:58 07ontoclasm02 * 0.18-a0-706-g4aaebea: Redo item slot tiles & local tiles tabs 10(5 days ago, 23 files, 1+ 57-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4aaebea31866 17:57:08 seems to be what I was remembering 17:58:35 so are they supposed to look like that? 17:58:42 <|amethyst> without the border? 17:58:43 <|amethyst> yes 17:58:49 like, forever? 17:59:03 as in, is this the new default? 17:59:15 <|amethyst> yes? 17:59:24 <|amethyst> if that keeps you from playing the game 17:59:27 <|amethyst> then good riddance 17:59:28 -!- |amethyst has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:00:00 uh 18:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:03 Ahahaha, oh jeez, did I say something wrong 18:00:05 that was ... unexpected 18:00:42 so this is the new default apparently, huh 18:01:15 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:01:56 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:01:56 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:03:02 I still don't think this is right, it looks pretty broken to me 18:05:06 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:08:41 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.18-a0-750-g37044d6 (34) 18:10:40 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 18:13:01 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:27:00 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 18:33:20 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 18:34:08 -!- tupper has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 18:34:31 Hello. When running crawl via cygwin, how do I start a tiles session? I compiled earlier without tiles, then compiled again recently with TILES=y, but I can't figure out how to start a tiles session. 18:35:37 I can't find an argument in the help regarding tiles. 18:36:44 Perhaps I made an error when compiling? 18:38:19 ./crawl 18:41:28 Yeah that starts it in the console. 18:41:42 I'll try compiling again 18:41:58 So some tests on other computers and apparently it really isn't supposed to look like that 18:42:37 -!- Baconkiddo_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:47:25 Nevermind. Solved! 18:47:30 -!- nikheizen has left ##crawl-dev 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:12:06 -!- Cacophony has quit [Quit: oh no am scare] 19:12:06 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:13:01 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 19:18:46 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 19:20:42 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 19:24:50 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 19:25:52 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:34:18 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:35:37 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 19:37:19 -!- CKyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:38:40 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:41:41 does anyone know about porting 10.5 carbon to modern OS X? I want to learn as little as possible to make MarvinPA sil build 19:41:53 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:42:45 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 19:47:03 no, sorry 19:47:13 * geekosaur is attempting to build 0.17.1-1 tiles... 19:47:36 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 19:49:07 -!- RBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 19:49:32 probably encourages tedious optimal play tho 19:49:34 oops 19:56:19 Religion screen under Dithmenos keeps listing "None." among granted powers. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10164 by Elton 19:56:47 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:57:04 amazing line 19:57:42 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:09 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 20:03:06 -!- WorkSight has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20:05:42 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 20:06:49 -!- Blasterino has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:12:05 mmm, sadly it seems as though lacertilians have bitrotted 20:12:10 a tragic loss 20:12:29 I've honestly forgotten what they were 20:12:38 ??lacertilians 20:12:39 lacertilians ~ lacertilian[1/1]: Experimental race with perma-faith and no wrath for changing gods. Used to be playable on CBRO! 20:12:43 ahh 20:12:45 my stupid race 20:13:14 eh, imo the concept was fairly interesting 20:15:51 -!- CKyle_ has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:16:49 maybe i'll try and learn how to rebase stuff 20:17:35 -!- Gorgo has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:18:28 if it's bitrotted that much a merge is probably a lot easier 20:19:06 someone will have to rebase eventually 20:19:28 well it looks like the problem is 20:19:43 somebody completely redid how species.cc works at some point 20:19:59 mainly by ripping out half of it into specis-data.h 20:20:10 so it's kind of hopeless trying to merge it 20:20:13 that was wheals 20:20:21 i i r c 20:20:42 !blame2 wheals 20:20:42 wwwhhheeeaaalllsss 20:20:51 's okay, they're not terribly complex 20:20:59 i can just rewrite them 20:21:01 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:22:52 uploading build candidates 20:23:33 maybe debo knows how to fix mpa-sil to build on modern OS X 20:24:19 I am not sure there's a simple way; Carbon's gone 20:24:34 r.i.p. 20:24:53 did forlorn get removed? 20:24:55 !rebase ontoclasm 20:24:56 Grunt rebases ontoclasm. Ontoclasm is banished to the reflog! 20:25:01 %git HEAD^{/orlorn} 20:25:01 07MarvinPA02 * 0.17-a0-347-g358cb93: Remove the Forlorn mutation 10(9 months ago, 7 files, 15+ 16-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/358cb933c01d 20:25:03 ^ 20:25:07 wow that makes like 20:25:18 half of this code irrelevant 20:25:21 whee 20:36:21 !send ontoclasm more refactoring 20:36:22 Sending more refactoring to ontoclasm. 20:40:07 so, a PleasingRefactor? 20:41:00 ?/brigadier 20:41:01 Matching entries (1): pleasingfungus[15]: the refactoring brigadier general 20:46:33 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:46:58 -!- Lucasterio has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:49:00 -!- vev has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:54:13 if by modern you mean el capitane or whatever 20:54:13 you did that to yourself 20:54:51 where's it blowing up? 20:58:31 so I have a feeling that the hex targetter sometimes lies about purple draconian mr 20:59:21 base or nonbase? 20:59:29 I wouldn't be surprised if there was a bug in that somewhere 20:59:39 as all of the code surrounding that is weird 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:04 I am seeing it with nonbase 21:00:29 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8376576/crawl_osx-0.17.1-1.zip https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8376576/crawl_tiles_osx-0.17.1-1.zip testsneeded (probably) 21:00:36 i.e. it is the same as other draconians with nonbase 21:00:36 gammafunk ^^ 21:00:47 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:01:34 mm, that would have been my guess 21:01:39 ebering: no one playing mpa-sil uses the thick client, we all use the curses build. I'm not sure even half has a solution for migrating the carbon client to the "modern angband" cocoa one 21:01:44 probably it's using the value from the nonbase monster entry 21:01:54 * Grunt points at debo, then curses. 21:02:50 "curses horribly" you mean 21:02:59 The air crackles around Grunt. 21:03:52 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 42.0/20151029151421]] 21:03:53 -!- uJellie has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:12:21 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:18:46 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:18:59 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 21:30:33 -!- serq has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:35:00 -!- inire has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:39:47 man tavern is going crazy with the robot species proposals 21:43:19 -!- inire has quit [] 21:45:16 -!- Mordru has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:49:50 ugh, how can i test whether i have faith on or not 21:50:01 i remember this being awful last time too 21:52:18 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 21:55:38 !source actor::faith 21:55:38 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/actor.cc#l263 21:55:42 ontoclasm: ^ 21:56:06 you can just modify that, to also return true if your race is lacertilian 21:56:12 learn add tavern man tavern is going crazy 21:57:40 going? 21:57:51 ?/crazy 21:57:52 Matching terms (2): crazy_yiuf, crazy_yuif; entries (20): *w[5] | chaos_brand[1] | crazy_yuif[1] | cyc[1] | dead_monster[6] | edmund[2] | eldritch_tentacle[3] | embarrassing_deaths[35] | ereshkigal[1] | g[2] | grue[1] | gw[8] | hammer[3] | madreisz[2] | ontoclasm[10] | quarterstaff_of_chaos[1] | rchandra[2] | Rule_of_Chei[1] | uniques[1] | yiuf[1] 21:58:11 ??gw[8] 21:58:11 gw[8/9]: Deemed a 'crazy bot' by other bot authors. 21:58:24 amalloy: yeah, i ddi 21:58:25 did* 21:58:35 i was just testing to make sure it works (and it does) 21:59:05 or rather, i made a player::faith in a different place, as is done with stasis and Fo 22:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:01:25 ??gw[9 22:01:25 gw[9/9]: !lg gw 9019 -tv 22:01:33 !lg gw 9019 -tv 22:01:34 9019/11005. gw, XL5 DDFi, T:2622 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 22:02:27 debo, Carbon was removed in 10.6 22:03:02 it was a conversion aid for MacOS 9 and only lasted that long because Finder was using it 22:03:51 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 22:11:50 -!- WTFace has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:13:49 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:15:21 almost back to where i was :Y 22:18:18 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:25:29 robe of vines seems kind of nuts 22:28:26 mprf(MSGCH_GOD, old_god, "You sense decay."); // in the state of Denmark 22:28:59 all righty 22:29:20 La work again 22:29:24 time to let them rot for another half a year 22:32:04 spooky: x - the cursed +1 chain mail "Alan" (worn) {*Corrode rPois Dex+4} 22:32:15 this dang game doesn't even know my name but i'm getting monogrammed armour 22:32:32 and it's cursed, too! 22:32:38 and corrosive. 22:32:39 >.> 22:32:44 pakellas: the nsa of dcss >.> 22:32:46 ontoclasm: I think that was one of the first crawlcode tweets 22:32:47 ontoclasm: if pf has taught me anything it's now time to say chaos reigns and push them to trunk 22:32:55 haha 22:32:56 !banish ebering 22:32:56 PleasingFungus: and despite being XL14 in Orc:$ i actually have no ?rc so i can't take it off 22:32:56 Grunt casts a spell. ebering is cast into the Abyss! 22:33:03 amalloy: nice! 22:33:12 that's what you get for wear-iding.... 22:33:14 :p 22:33:14 -!- zero_one has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:33:15 amalloy: well there are probably some forms you have to fill out 22:33:16 seriously 22:33:29 i'm just so used to having a ton of rc by now i didn't even think about it 22:33:44 maybe i could fund a scroll shop 22:34:44 pushing to trunk is also obvious answer to them bitrotting 22:35:34 can you not format patches with multiple commits in them? 22:35:49 i assume there's a reason not to 22:36:08 not without squashing 22:36:17 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:37:31 sure you can 22:37:48 git format-patch --stdout master.. > stuff.patch # or something close to that 22:38:11 origin/master i guess 22:38:21 you don't need the .. 22:38:38 ebering: i didn't think so, but it seemed safer to include it in case i was misremembering 22:40:13 Print all commits to the standard output in mbox format 22:40:15 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 22:40:21 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Client Quit] 22:40:23 git-am understands that format 22:40:23 that may not be quite what you expetc 22:41:26 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:47:26 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/lacertilians.patch 22:47:27 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:47:35 * ontoclasm shrugs 22:50:06 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:52:40 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:53:55 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:56:40 ontoclasm: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/compare/master...jmbjr:onto-lacertilians?expand=1 22:56:58 if you'd like me to submit the pull request (or is that something you could do and just chose not to this time?) 22:57:03 oh 22:57:19 i've never made a PR before, i guess that would be a thing i could do 22:57:24 i'll do it 22:58:10 :) I hadn't done it till recently. fun stuff 23:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:26 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:01:09 PRs are so much more pleasant to create than patch files 23:01:52 yeah, i imagine so 23:02:14 this is just the first thing i've written that i don't want to just push straight to trunk 23:02:14 I'm really liking them 23:02:15 xD 23:02:21 -!- kaiza has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:02:31 -!- eb has quit [] 23:02:37 the "no wrath" thing is the shakiest bit, i worry it's abusable 23:02:41 ontoclasm: what are the major changes from last time? 23:02:56 nothin', i just rebased it (by hand) 23:03:06 suggestions welcome 23:03:28 ah, the manual rebase 23:03:59 ontoclasm: can't you force-push to the old branch 23:04:04 * johnstein became a huge fan of rebasing (over the course of this year0 23:04:31 by can't you I mean you can. It'll be just as destructive as a rebase 23:04:59 New branch created: pull/200 (3 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/200 23:05:00 03ontoclasm02 {johnstein} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/200 * 0.18-a0-751-g9965eab: Lacertilians 10(62 minutes ago, 11 files, 101+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9965eab81b31 23:05:00 03ontoclasm02 {johnstein} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/200 * 0.18-a0-752-g3f793c6: Lacertilian tiles 10(56 minutes ago, 4 files, 7+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3f793c6be5d7 23:05:00 03ontoclasm02 {johnstein} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/200 * 0.18-a0-753-gff52a56: No wrath for La switching gods 10(36 minutes ago, 3 files, 33+ 27-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ff52a56069f3 23:05:49 -!- xtwv has quit [Read error: No route to host] 23:06:49 ebering: i dunno how to do that >.> 23:06:52 i am a git infant 23:07:12 git push --force i suppose 23:07:25 the force is strong with you 23:07:44 ontoclasm: did you just do that? 23:07:52 no, i was just guessing 23:08:02 git push --force localbranch remote/target 23:08:07 ok 23:08:19 I had the pull request up looking at your stuff, but I didn't think I clicked it...... 23:08:34 haven't touched a thing 23:08:36 there might also be github magic to just turn a PR into a branch 23:08:43 then maybe my son pushed a button 23:08:57 I'll close that PR. I wasn't trying to do anything 23:09:00 weird 23:09:02 oh, the pr 23:09:06 no, i did that 23:09:09 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 23:09:14 sorry, i was confused about what you were asking 23:09:35 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:09:37 why is it coming from my repo still? 23:10:29 no clue 23:10:48 heh 23:11:15 just wondering, what method did you use? 23:11:31 i think it kinda has to be because ontoclasm pushed to your repo, johnstein, and then issued the PR from there 23:11:54 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 23:11:55 I don't think he has push access 23:12:08 I used git am lacertilian.patch to ensure his name was the author 23:12:12 i think johnstein pushed and then i did the PR from there without thinking 23:12:18 ah ok 23:12:21 it should be ok 23:12:22 sorry 23:12:34 it's not a biggie. I did it that way to help :) 23:12:55 just wasn't sure if you wanted to go through the whole PR thing from your own repo. I'm more than happy to help this way 23:13:23 but it kinda overstates my contribution in the commit authorship :P 23:13:52 nah, it doesn't 23:14:11 xD 23:14:13 it just shows you committed it for ontoclasm, and that its current home is your repo 23:14:18 if things look ok and it gets added as a new branch or the old branch gets updated, I'll put the new experimental up 23:14:31 anyway, i'm gonna go eat, feel free to comment on it 23:20:54 -!- Cacophony has quit [Quit: oh no am scare] 23:27:13 i know it's been said before, but do people on tavern even like crawl? 23:29:17 "wah, i have to equip rods" "wah, pak makes me worry about inventory" "wah wah wah" 23:29:38 and i mean, i know i periodically bitch about things that probably don't need to be complained about 23:29:48 inventory analysis paralysis is a bummer 23:29:49 learn add tavern do people on tavern even like crawl? 23:29:54 probably easier once you get better 23:30:10 -!- mineral has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:30:22 I'm still in the 'wow I can see a use for this item because that one time I TOTALLY wouldn't have died if I had had it with me so I should keep it" phase 23:30:34 -!- mineral has joined ##crawl-dev 23:30:39 waaaa I have to thiiiink 23:31:44 -!- FireSight has quit [] 23:32:17 thinking is ok. it's the analysis paralysis aspect that's a bummer. the tactical thinking is great 23:33:02 it's something that seems to clear up with experience, so I'm optimistic I'll get better. after item destruction was destroyed and monsters weren't able to pick up everything, I did stop making stashes! 23:33:07 you haven't read tavern, have you? 23:33:14 I try not to 23:33:19 -!- zero_one has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:34:36 I read the post dpeg posted earlier this morning and while I thought there were a couple interesting points, I couldn't quite understand the full point (re: too much branching, etc). I read the thread 3 times over the day and still came up unimpressed and somewhat annoyed. so... I'm probably going back to ignoring tavern for a while 23:34:50 !always be ignoring tavern 23:34:51 ABIT! A-Always! B-Be! I-Ignoring! T-Tavern! Always Be Ignoring Tavern! ALWAYS BE IGNORING TAVERN! 23:35:02 ??goodsequell[$ 23:35:02 goodsequell[17/17]: yes ~ des[1/2]: 23:35:05 ??goodsequell[-2 23:35:05 goodsequell[16/17]: AAAAAAAAAAAURAURAURAAAURAURAURAAAURAURAURAAAAAURAURAURAAAURAURAURAAAURAURAURAAAAAURAURAURAAAURAURAURAAAURAURAURAAAAAAAURAURAURAAAURAURAURAAAURAURAURAAAAAURAURAURAAAURAURAURAAAURAURAURAAAAAURAURAURAAAURAURAURAAAURAURAURAAAAAAAURAURAURAAAURAURAURAAAURAURAURAAAAAURAURAURAAAURAURAURAAAURAURAURAAAAAURAURAURAAAURAURAURAAAURAURAURAAAAAAAAAURAURAURAAAURAURAURAAAURAURA... 23:35:40 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 23:38:11 anyone have thoughts on how we should deal with the 0.17.1-1 situation? 23:38:21 should I make a tag for it and push? 23:38:32 * geekosaur put mac builds generated with a local tag up earlier 23:38:34 geekosaur has already built that one 23:38:39 yeah, got those, thanks 23:39:01 geekosaur: any issues with the developer key or anything to test? 23:39:10 or should we be good to do there 23:39:21 well, someone shouldprobably verify them but I think I have the process down at this point 23:39:24 s/do/go/ 23:39:47 still doesn't work for PF for whatever reason 23:39:54 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:40:03 works in a pristine VM that doesn't have my signing key in it 23:42:50 03ontoclasm02 07[faithful] * 0.18-a0-751-g57ca29c: Lacertilians 10(2 hours ago, 11 files, 101+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/57ca29c99b50 23:42:50 03ontoclasm02 07[faithful] * 0.18-a0-752-g905d547: Lacertilian tiles 10(2 hours ago, 4 files, 7+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/905d5472a769 23:42:50 03ontoclasm02 07[faithful] * 0.18-a0-753-gf0f1e14: No wrath for La switching gods 10(74 minutes ago, 3 files, 33+ 27-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f0f1e1488221 23:43:17 !send ontoclasm the Miter of the Archpriest 23:43:17 Sending the Miter of the Archpriest to ontoclasm. 23:43:18 * geekosaur suddenly remembers his signing bug report, which apple has not even acknowledged 23:43:29 i figured it outttt 23:43:32 (should actually implement that - it's easy) 23:44:01 hey grunt, looks like the new nethack release is now grunt hard =p 23:44:09 no it isn't! 23:44:15 miter? so, shammai? 23:44:29 well, i keep running into soldier ants about 10 levels earlier than i used to 23:44:32 ha 23:44:34 which amounts to the same thing 23:44:35 =p 23:44:52 ok, more like five 23:45:12 (although he wasn't a priest, he was a headmaster) 23:45:22 but either way, i'm like "doo doo doo, gonna explore minetown" "OH GOD NO" 23:45:52 just call it "pope hat" 23:45:58 "miter" is played out 23:46:03 no it isn't! 23:46:04 >.> 23:46:14 johnstein: i updated faithful 23:46:47 haha 23:46:59 have to admit when I see "Lacertilian" I think http://stories.starmind.org/emerald-tree-monitor-varanus-prasinus/ 23:47:03 ontoclasm: ok I'll work on getting the experimental back up 23:47:15 also i found the perfect use for statue form finally, after years of reading crap on tavern about how you "need" to have it 23:47:17 ontoclasm: should I purge old games and saves? 23:47:19 geekosaur: yes 23:47:26 or will they update ok? 23:47:29 let xom make you invisible and berserk and a statue in the dragon lair end 23:47:39 johnstein: they... should update okay, i think 23:47:51 i can't imagine anything i did would break save-compat 23:47:52 ProzacElf: one time I used Statue Form to kill Rupert in Lair 23:48:04 sweeeet 23:48:08 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:48:13 only because I didn't have Dragon Form online then 23:48:17 <.< 23:48:27 (yes I was casting Dragon Form by the end of Lair) 23:48:30 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 23:48:31 !lg . natm won -log 23:48:32 1. SGrunt, XL26 NaTm, T:100526: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/SGrunt/morgue-SGrunt-20130715-010210.txt 23:48:44 geekosaur: i considered making them frog people instead 23:48:44 great game that was 23:48:48 haha 23:48:50 still an option!! 23:50:25 do xom actions have max spellpower? 23:50:42 they all seem like they last way longer than the player-initiated equivalent 23:51:04 they use severity as the spellpower i believe 23:51:31 ah 23:51:33 and severity is determined by, uh 23:52:52 do they have perfect rWrath? 23:54:50 well, you can get penance 23:54:54 via e.g. poison under tso 23:55:07 just not from leaving 23:55:10 well I'll upload os x packages now, but I'm not sure what to do about the other packages 23:55:15 (or hitting 0 piety and getting excommunicated) 23:55:40 so i suppose if you used poison under tso, then switched to makhleb, you'd get wrathed 23:56:33 ??rebuild 23:56:33 rebuild[1/2]: https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 23:57:53 oh oops. looks like I can't simply rebuild faithful 23:58:04 I'll probably have to force pull from origin 23:58:28 feels like we should do a tag and rebuild windows/linux packages 23:58:52 not sure if just rebuilding using the non-tagged version would be wise 23:58:58 also not sure what the tag should actually be 23:59:04 0.17.1-1 ? 23:59:27 I guess it's only an issue for people making outside package, but there should probably be a tag 23:59:32 *packages